/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Remember if anyone says anything about people who get 4 digits on the regular flopping, he's suffering from terminal numberrot. Please do not take any of his statements at face value and forcefeed him meds

>>23774565
Doesn't matter for the example I picked (Mori and Irys), it's still channel specific.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/grnRqh5kGSU
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/CAK6X7KQivE
Irys's is still not at 100k after 3 weeks and Mori's is 1 day old. Mori's massive subcount over Irys helps her VODs outperform her CCV so much.

>>23774641
Winner time.

I guess we're using this one?

Ah, peace

It’s why Cover has to be super restrictive and careful even if it annoys the talents. Everyone has their daggers pointed towards them waiting for a slip up.

>>23774804
What happened?

>>23774603
>Nigger Mio almost lost her fucking channel due to copyright issues that nijiniggers reported holo for.
The difference is Capcom clearly cared that Mio and Holos were streaming without explicit perms, whereas Okayu doesn't seem to give a fuck. If the composer of the track wants to go after Luca, he's free to do so, but pretending a track composer has the same power as fucking Capcom is just delusional.

So why did Kaida's 3D underperform? Were the ROFMAO weekly videos for the last six months that much of a debuff?
>>23774841
Probably replying to that post from last thread

>>23774568
towa is known for having a relatively large female fanbase so some will be from there

>>23774841
bug being bug

>>23771739
BEFORE YAB
https://youtu.be/zdxH7NRZPhE?t=7719
> 7th April : Okayu BGM (No credits)
https://youtu.be/sw-yGr6i818?t=14239
> 8th April : Okayu BGM (No credits)
https://youtu.be/P145FYusZiY?t=5627
> 12th April : Okayu BGM (No credits)
https://youtu.be/IKmSocESFfo?t=4106
> 15th April : Okayu BGM (No credits)
https://youtu.be/Pj8RYDZvNBE?t=4845s
> 16th April : Okayu BGM (No credits)
https://youtu.be/SzvEw2Snq7A?t=11813
> 20th April : Okayu BGM (No credits)
https://youtu.be/G7R1tqXsbIA?t=14562
> 20th April : Humming along with Towa BGM (No credits)

All still public.

STREAMS PRIVATED AFTER YAB
https://youtu.be/WNx2W4nt0V4
> 29th April : Okayu + Towa BGM (Original Yab Stream)
https://youtu.be/ATpodcBNaIA
> 22nd April : Okayu + Towa BGM

PRIOR STREAMS CREDITED AFTER YAB
https://youtu.be/iCTXLVT7SdY?t=7449
> 27th April : Okayu BGM (Credited)
https://youtu.be/Ah7g_5jwpyo?t=4396
> 28th April : Okayu BGM (Credited)

NO YAB
https://youtu.be/PLaGA2gvMQs
> 6th May : Towa & Okayu BGMs credited but not played

>>23774641
Wow he's cute.

>>23774905
damn, he could kill Luca if he wanted to

>>23774731
Don't even think it's about the Chanel either
Haachama for example can have two 8k 1 hour streams, one would be 80k and the other would be 120k after 2 days of processing

>>23774731
Anon, IRyS has worse VOD growth than Mumei. It's not just sub count. IRyS is relatively unculled in terms of her live CCV compared to Mori. Like Mori's Vampire Survivors stream from yesterday hit 150k views. There's no way a stream that didn't even peak at 7k viewers would have anymore where that.

>>23774893
>So why did Kaida's 3D underperform? Were the ROFMAO weekly videos for the last six months that much of a debuff?
It didn't? 70k is an absurdly good number for a 3D live, SPECIALLY for Nijisanji.but that is a good number for mid level Holos as well

>>23774900
also Marine too, and she just collabed with her the other day

>>23774893
I’m surprised too. Even if his model has been seen a lot, he still has so many buffs. Like having a lot of popular nijis appearing on stream and it being Golden Week.

>>23769487
10x? try 100x or even 200x. No, seriously. some of them were 2view and hardly reach 50 view

>>23774944
>Haachama for example can have two 8k 1 hour streams, one would be 80k and the other would be 120k after 2 days of processing
That depends on what she's doing. I usually catch Haachama's VOD for certain types of streams but skip karaokes because her playlist is a little repetitive and uninspired.

>>23774905
You are late, the guy removed the "COPYRIGHTED" from the title "because it caused a misunderstanding", which was after people spammed his comments with this very list. He doesn't care.

>>23774893
Luxiem's chink viewfarms causing genuine JP fans who checked them out to be flagged seems like the most likely explanation considering the graph weirdness

>>23774952
I think he's referring to how many expected him to get 100k at least because he's one of the last few popular Nijimales (This was before Edengumi and Luxiem). Kaida and Nagao shouldn't be comparable in popularity.

>>23774893
His CCV throughout the stream was so fucked and his channel is cursed as fuck if you look at all his CCV graphs in the past week. It's very odd for a stream to get 58k in the first 4 minutes and only peak at 70k.

>>23775055
If that theory holds it will certainly "jump" sideways from ROF-MAO to Kuzuha to Neo Porte due to them sharing a FPS audience.
Let's keep looking

>>23774641
Kaida's fully animated Orisong
>56,772 views Premiered 2 hours ago
so far

But i think it's really good and has more legs that Ike's emo-pop rendition of whatever this song was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy8N7Rnnx-s

Nijifans is celebrating their success in capturing the fujo market, a portion of EN market and CN market that hololive used to rule over, while Holofans is celebrating their success in capturing indo market

>>23775087
I only expected 100k because it hit 50k in 2 minutes and peaked at almost 60k before 5 min.
I genuinely NEVER seen any stream open to 50k and fail to hit 100k.

>>23775197
>a portion of EN market
There is genuinely no indication for that unless you mean a tiny portion

>>23774900
Rurudo said many though she is male like Towa.

>>23774947
The 2-3 month period of irregular streaming and breaks from IRyS really fucked up her momentum. It's why long breaks can hurt most streamers because once a streamer breaks someone's ritual/habit of watching them by taking long breaks, there's a good chance that they never come back.

>>23774641 (OP)
Kaida's fully animated Orisong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXtmU1Rmel8
>62,243 views Premiered 2 hours ago
so far, but still processing.

>>23775240
They all left after they saw how boring it was

>>23774947
>Like Mori's Vampire Survivors stream from yesterday hit 150k views. There's no way a stream that didn't even peak at 7k viewers would have anymore where that.
Yeah, 150k is more than most of Fauna's VODs in the past few weeks and Mori's VS CCV was pretty bad throughout, whereas Fauna's has been consistently higher than 6.6k.
Kiara's Portal 2 collab with Kobo is at 220k and it peaked at only 8.7k. Usually 200k+ is reserved for 12k+ streams.
This is why I think it's heavily algorithm recommendation based. I hate bringing them up because the thread goes to shit, but if you looked at Luca's VODs, you wouldn't be able to tell he's reclining in CCV because all his recent VODs have been getting 100k+ despite shit CCV. Same with Mysta and Vox's VODs.

>>23775306
Happened to Haachama and Ame as well.

>>23774875
Not really. Capcom could've contacted Cover privately and resolved the issues, instead they chose to issue the strike because they didn't really think much of them. The sting of it still remains between their relationships with them currently showering holos with sponsorships to wash out the bad blood.
It's very likely that Towa talked the artist out of going after Luca and just letting the condition of "credited" BGM go.
All those uncredited BGMs are still there though...

>>23775314
It was dropping while he was singing with Fuwa, whatever explanation you have for it that isn't a natural drop

Turn of the hour numbers
Reid eating well in the box, even got his 10k before 1AM

This 10k CCV peaked 1.5h streams has legs, but will this be the end?

>>23775488
They all hate Fuwa for continuing to associate with Mafumafu

I think the nijiboy's dip was a random ass youtube bug. It recovered and even if it was botted, the after-processing views would easily expose that kind of shit.
What I want tribaltards to understand is that a NijiJP 3D debut getting anything below 40k is bad news for everyone.
A big niji means an even bigger holo.

>>23775281
As much as we joke about Luxiem having no NA audience, I'm pretty sure if Vox or Mysta did an NA time stream, they can still get 5-6k viewers. (Fucking Sonny and Uki can get that with Minecraft and Luca streams at
late NA times) That's way more than what the NijiEN girls would get so technically they did get more of an NA market than before.
It's like how a HoloEN girl streaming at JP times can still get at least 3-4k despite being way out of their timeslot.

>>23775497
>Reid eating well in the box
Reid *is* the box anon, other than Hal he used to be one of the highest ranked indies

>>23775497
Rurudo also at 4.7k, maybe last above the Re-broadcast line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKgDJxAJV_A

>adds Celebration on title
>still lost to plants vs zombie kid
Oof

>>23775536
>they can still get 5-6k viewers
*That* is what I mention by a "tiny" portion. The NA market surely already proved to be much wider than that and I'm sure that even at NA hours a good share of Vox and Mysta audience would still be from elsewhere.

>>23775497
I really don't know if they genuinely haven't played any horror games for the past few years considering outlast 2 was played to death by streamers and casuals alike or pretending to be scared for lulz. Same with Alban, Ike and Mysta a few hours ago.

>>23775401
Probably also the reason why Aki is still foundering since she has the bad luck of being put on the shelf for months during critical growth periods.

>>23775197
>EN Market
No that's just the CN market again. Luxiem's viewership on YouTube is still heavily CN based just based on the comments and live-chat alone.

>>23775513
It's the type of stream that gets clicks as a VOD so it'll grow until it gets out of the algorithm. Some of Ame's VODs have been very good in the past few weeks despite being short and having middling CCV because people see the a 3D model and word "VR" and they click.

>>23775531
We do need to keep close tabs on the VOD, 409k after 3 hours

Funny how after Mysta ends a horror stream and saw his disappointing SC numbers, he starts up another bait stream for SCs. Even the new house celebration stream is a bait considering how he was already moving like a month ago and got plenty of SCs before taking the break.

>>23775497
Sukoya Minecraft can’t even reach 2k...and one of the new Niji girls barely over 1k

Why are we talking about the males again?

>>23775701
He looks pathetic when he does this shit.

>>23775809
Because a male got global gold with a questionable as fuck graph?

>>23775701
>Even the new house celebration stream is a bait considering how he was already moving like a month ago and got plenty of SCs before taking the break.
I'm pretty sure he was househunting, not moving for that week. He only recently got the house because I got recommended a tweet from him by a random topic that got 70k fucking likes about him getting the house.

https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1521951025757921287?cxt=HHwWjoC9_Z2Zh58qAAAA
https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1522216971814662146?cxt=HHwWhMCrwaqRgKAqAAAA
https://twitter.com/Mysta_Rias/status/1522282343435698176?cxt=HHwWgICshbvunaAqAAAA

I'm embarrassed I know this

While we're talking about VOD views, Mumei is the strongest Council on VODs, she gets 100k+ consistently and occasionally 200k+

>>23775856
jeez, that beats Gura's return tweet on likes.

Kobo mogged the entire nijien branch again?

>>23775536
>I'm pretty sure if Vox or Mysta did an NA time stream
And I'm pretty sure if pekora streamed in NA time she will get more the 15k and she doesn't have any NA fanbase

>>23775881
Nah, it's still Kronii. She just doesn't fucking stream.
It's something l ike
Kronii > Mumei > Fauna > Bae > Sana, currently.

>>23775958
>nijien
the are nijicn

>>23774952
>3D debut, not even 3D lives that normally underperform for Niji (Except for NJU)
>Mid tier Niji (Also a guy)
>Member of the most sucessful Niji unit in recent times (ROFMAO)
>GW, so way more people free to watch streams in general
>Stream barely started and he was ALREADY at 50k but barely grow at all until the very end
yeah he did underperform on CCV. SCs were great as expected at least

>>23775949
>Thinking Likes really matter
>When Nijisanji has a topic

>>23775722
For a zatsu at 1am, i think she's getting ok numbers.

>>23775881
Mumei also has the best CCV in Council by far recently (If a 10k stream doesn't get 100k, then something is wrong) and her recent streams are good for VOD growth (Minecraft, drawing).
The most impressive VOD there is her Doom stream limping to 100k despite being short and low CCV peak.

Kronii's VODs are very good too considering how awful has CCV has been recently, but she's missing the 200k's she used to get because her CCV and game choice have been bad outside of that one Minecraft stream.

Sana's VODs suck as expected, but Bae's VODs have been really bad for almost 3 weeks apart from 1 minecraft stream. She really needs gimmicks or collabs to get 200k.

>>23776032
Kronii's been debuffing herself with indie games though, she hasn't had a 200k VOD in ages.

>>23775543
>>23775497
Helps that Sumire's on Twitch instead with 3k
https://www.twitch.tv/kagasumire
More YT only viewers for Reid and Runa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6ApyF4NUhM
Reine having her youtube music stream in aroud 5 minutes. What kinda numbers are we thinking?

>>23776040
Topics play a part, but it's also demographics.
Women like and retweet a lot more than males do, especially fanatical fans like kpop fans, and that makes twitter recommend them more.
I get Nijimale tweets shoved onto me all the time under random topics. Tried to label as "non-relevant", but they actually don't go away unless you pick "Show fewer tweets from_____". Retweets actually make such a huge difference in how far something spreads.

https://vrabi.net/channel/UCo2N7C-Z91waaR6lF3LL_jw
Pick a stream, any stream in the last month. 5-10 minutes in it does the characteristic worm drop before rising again. This is weird as fuck and clearly not just bots unless you really want to believe someone botted a sub-2k Overwatch stream.

Is the content Reine using for her Youtube Music weekend recycled content? I don't recall her using VRchat for a karaoke before but I may have just missed it.

>>23774905
You should be sending this to the author instead of posting it here and letting the nijinigger know about it

>>23776312
No, it's new, the only ones that are doing recycled content for music weekend this time is Nijisanji

>>23776270
2,013 waiting
Pretty good for almost midnight in ID
These used to be high numbers for her 2 months ago right?

>>23776142
I really wish she'd get her shit together. This is really sad. I get that Bae, and even Mumei, have a "head start" because they songs that are doing well, and much better than hers, but in total views she shouldn't be second to last. Hell her schedule next is pretty bare bones too, though she at least has minecraft I guess.

>>23776312
No, she has been working on this for a while now.

>>23776294
this why you saw vox trending on US when in reality are chinks fujos using US vpn to inflate the twitter trends. truly sad that kind of manipulation

>>23776343
It was already sent to him on his comment section after he changed the name of the playlist and his response was to change it back because of a "misunderstanding"

>>23776300
Yeah that's what I meant when I said he and Nagao's channels have been cursed. >>23775087

They're worming their way to a 2k peak so the bots/viewfarms clearly aren't working.

>>23776391
wait..
>Coco - 432,437 views last 30 days
Oh.
>Ayami - 456,337 views last 30 days
Damn, Mel's mama's on the rise?

>>23776391
If Fauna gets a good song out and keep doing ASMR i actually think she has a genuine chance of getting the most views per month in council within the next 3-6 months.

>>23776391
damn i didn't realize how terrible her views were, she's actually second to last.

>>23776391
Huh. Kiara has more views than Mumei? Didn't she take a vacation? Surprised she can overcome the gap with her ccv. Makes me wonder how much EU is culled. Moris' good VS views despite trash ccv might be a similar phenomenon. Also holy shit Mori's views. Music really does crank the numbers up

>>23776532
KFP does a lot of song view reps.

>>23776532
Songs anon. Songs view

>>23776532
Kiara have passive growth through multiples songs, which help carry her rather average VOD

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>17,514: Kiara (Hololive)
>12,409: Ike (Nijisanji)
>9,741: Mumei (Hololive)
>8,977: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>8,521: Alban (Nijisanji)
>8,520: Luca (Nijisanji)
>8,135: Fauna (Hololive)
>7,573: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,368: Reimu (Nijisanji)
>7,067: Alban (Nijisanji)
>6,188: Mori (Hololive)
>5,699: Baelz (Hololive)
>5,695: Vox (Nijisanji)

>>23776528
There are only so many VODs a bloke can go before hitting her debut.
I started watching her old VODs recently because she was not around and I went all the way back to November.

>>23774947
>IRyS is relatively unculled in terms of her live CCV compared to Mori.
I don't disagree with other point about VOD growth, but this in particular is wrong unless something changed drastically recently (and by recently, I meant last 1-2 months).
If anything, IRyS is one of the most culled HoloEN member. Her most recent pool (few days ago) got ~60% participation rate within a minute (and would likely rise way higher if she didn't stop it right there). She said in March that 50k people attended her birthday party even though vrabi recorded merely 20.2k (which means a cull rate of 40-50+% depends on how much she rounded it up / down)
I don't know how culled Mori is or if she is more / less culled than IRyS, but unless it's something as massive as around 70-90% of her CCV (which I doubt), I wouldn't call IRyS unculled, even relatively compared to Mori.

>>23776532
Music. It's why even Mori gets a shitton even when she doesn't stream.

>>23776391
The councilschizo was right. Numbers don't lie and those are some awfully low vod views for the last 30 days

>>23776532
Kiara gets about 400k views per week just from her top 5-6 songs, so yeah.

>>23776532
The answer anon is...
>Music
Remember that when you look at gained views, since MAN does it count for a fuckload.

>>23775311
jesus, wonder how much it cost him

>>23776589
EN GOLD SO FAR IN MAY

1. Luca (Nijisanji) - 36,567 (Unarchived Karaoke)
2. Mori (Hololive) - 24,044 (Chat & Introduction w/Mama Mori)
3. Shu (Nijisanji) - 14,353 (Birthday Zatsu)
4. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,772 (The Closing Shift)
5. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 14,776 (Celebration Karaoke)
6. Kiara (Hololive) - 17,514 (Fasion Design Battle w/Ina)

Hololive - 2
Nijisanji - 4
Others - 0

>>23776589
kys

>>23776532
Have you seen Kiara's most recent VODs?
They have been doing very well (all 100k+) and she has a few streams that will always be in the algorithm (Uno collab, Myth 3D dance collab). Also, the songs help a ton and Kiara has a lot.

>>23776528
You realize it's because she didn't streamed for an entire week and most of the VOD growth if you don't have songs is from releasing new VOD, right ?

>>23776606
Stop looking at CP retard

>>23776589
kys, didn't you get embarrassed enough yesterday to stop posting this shit for good?

>>23776648
well technically, Bae also did take some time off, and she's still above Kronii. Kronii's song is just shit.

>>23776629
snaike doko? nijinigger

>>23776638
If Kiara stuck to a consistent (later start) time slot and didn't go on JRPG benders for weeks at a time her numbers would probably look quite a bit better. But I think she's starting to realize that non-game streams are not only her strength, but also some variety content EN could really use.

>>23776627
Looks close to the level of My Song in animation frames, probably more than Unison.

Then again, the people you get can vary wildly in rates.

>>23776677
>Stop looking at CP retard
but there are no lolis in council

>>23776629
Where's the snake retard? At least stick to some principles if you're going to keep doing this shit.

>>23776629
REAL EN GOLD SO FAR IN MAY

1. Luca (Nijisanji) - 36,567 (Unarchived Karaoke)
2. Mori (Hololive) - 24,044 (Chat & Introduction w/Mama Mori)
3. Shu (Nijisanji) - 14,353 (Birthday Zatsu)
4. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,772 (The Closing Shift)
5. Sara (Nijisanji) - 43,543 (Minecraft)
6. Kiara (Hololive) - 17,514 (Fasion Design Battle w/Ina)

Hololive - 2
Nijisanji - 3
Prism - 1

keep doing this zhang and we will counted your nipples as botted and viewfarms

>>23776729
would he have the contacts to outsource it though?
Iirc Moona hired some ID/Middle Eastern artists and got a hefty discount.

>>23776729
>level of My Song in animation frames
rumao

>>23776758
>Sara (Nijisanji)

>>23776648
She has a song
Her fans just don't care because it sucks.

>3,006 waiting
before the drop
>3,351 watching
when Reflect started
very good recovery, also what?

We're going to have an Hal situation over fucking EN gold for a fucking botted stream ? Kill me right now

>>23776758
>sara (nijisanji)
Who?

>>23776629
Lmao, where were you when both the cripple and real tally include Mille botted stream?

>>23776758
>5. Sara (PRISM) - 43,543 (Minecraft)
fixed

>>23776510
I will never understand how Fauna's ASMR does so much better than the CCV implies, but her game VODs almost always underperform compared to the CCV. Her minecraft stream today has a legit chance of not reaching 100k and that shouldn't happen with a 7k avg for 3 hours.

>>23776801
Every non-holo is a niji. Yes, indies and other companies are also nijis.

>>23776729
>Looks close to the level of My Song in animation frames
It looks cheaper than My Song

>>23776589
fuck off

>>23776841
ASMR is repeatable, and she has ASMR fans from all over the globe who don't even speak english.

>>23776758
Less retard than the other one but still kys.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>70,355: Haru (Nijisanji)
>40,487: Subaru (Hololive)
>34,231: Ui (Indie)
>24,457: Lui (Hololive)
>24,077: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,413: Towa (Hololive)
>19,863: Saku (Nijisanji)
>17,348: Kiara (Hololive)
>16,615: Botan (Hololive)
>16,405: Miko (Hololive)
>14,587: Korone (Hololive)
>14,856: Towa (Hololive)
>13,243: Kobo (Hololive)
>12,397: Ike (Nijisanji)
>12,283: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,888: Nene (Hololive)
>11,427: Mio (Hololive)
>10,954: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,869: Choco (Hololive)
>10,726: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,700: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,618: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,568: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,283: Hizuki Yui (Neo Porte)

>>23776758
>Sara (Nijisanji)
hoshikawa nijien....

I know it's a premiere but bets on if Reine will reach 8k? or even 10k

>>23776820
Fujos and chinks will never accept the viewfarms and bots from their own so why we should accept their fake tally in the first place

>>23776910
These things aren't that long, I don't see it happening. But her getting 4k at all for a premier for some youtube shit is honestly pretty decent

>>23776841
The same autists replay ASMR streams over and over to help them sleep or whatever. They're basically the adult versions of those kids that watch ElsaXSpiderman videos on loop.

>>23776592
Picture related. Mori poll on her April fool's stream.

>>23776841
Some people will watch ASMR videos every night to fall asleep, that number adds up over time.

>>23776938
fair enough, where do you think it'll peak at?

>>23776902
Who the fuck is Saku? I feel like sometimes you guys just make up pretend vtubers and label them Nijisanji to see if anyone can actually tell.

>>23776860
>>23776797
In terms of actually animated scenes and storyboards/keyframes it looks between My song and Unison. Which is how rates are mostly calculated.
But, you already know what i meant.

I didn't want to say it, because of how this thread is today, but yes, it looks cheaper.
Still good, but it's like 1/2 of it was animated in China.

Why do I get dopamine whenever I'm in this thread?

>>23776902
>10,283: Hizuki Yui (Neo Porte)
YUI LOVE

>>23777038
Kek i wouldn't be surprised if someone actually did that

>>23777038
Fuck you nigger. Don't pretend the only Niji I like doesn't exist.

>>23777017
Prob around 5-6k it is still rising albeit not that fast. Great numbers for a ID premiere though.

>>23777017
5K maybe

>>23777038
Even if the spelling is wrong, you could've just seen the pic instead of malding

>>23777038
>Not knowing who bullypanda is
Newfag OUT!

>>23776781
>Movie:山下RIRI
Same person that made videos for Aqua, Kuzuha and Rain Drops and mafumafu

>>23777038
Sasaki anon, it's in the picture.

I cut the names to a single one by hand speed reading it and once in a while I cut the wrong one. Once in a while a "Mito (hololive)" and a "Miko (Nijisanji)" happens too, shikataganai ne?!

>>23777038
>Doesn't know bully panda
Sasaki Saku is literally one of the most recognizable Nijis. She's one of the few Nijigirls whose CCV can drop to 3view and still get sponsorships just off of recognition and clout.

>>23777149
>>23777175
>>23777142
I believe he's taking offense for the fact she's called "Sasaki" instead of "Saku" by her fandom. I could be wrong

>>23776902
15 holos
5 nijis
2 neoportes
1 norio, 1 indie
top 10 7-2-1 for holos, niji gold
average day, gold was expected
shoutouts to rape bronze

>>23776592
Never heard her mention that 50k number

>>23776902
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Mio
1x: Kaida, Kanata, Miko, Nijisanji

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
89x: Hololive
28x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
15x: Aqua, Pekora
10x: Kuzuha
7: Subaru
6x: Hal, Miko
4x: Kanata, Suisei
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Marine, Mio, Okayu, Toya
2x: Ange, Flare, Korone, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chloe, Chronoir, Fuwa, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>23777038
regular chart anon calls her Sasaki.
But regular Chart anon also doesn't much for most nijis and just goes with the first thing that looks like a popular name till someone corrects him.

I saw Ollie got like 11k on an unarchived karaoke the other day. How the fuck did that happen? That's like...debut week Ollie numbers. Was in it EN primetime with no one streaming or something?

>>23776592
>She said in March that 50k people attended her birthday party even though vrabi recorded merely 20.2k (which means a cull rate of 40-50+% depends on how much she rounded it up / down)
Yeah, I'm going to need a timestamp on that one

really good numbers for an IDs

>>23777235
Pfffffffffffffffft

>>23776592
>She said in March that 50k people attended her birthday party even though vrabi recorded merely 20.2k
You're gonna need to link a timestamp because by all metrics, Irys getting a 50k birthday totsu is hard to believe. The VOD views and even the likes just doesn't match a 50k CCV 4-hour stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5DYEFrGHYk

Dude's back after 3 months with another High Quality animation.

>>23777321
kobo buff

>>23777321
That was Kobo on her stream

>>23777343
I love how Kaela always just trucks along with 1500~ people every day, even through fucking 6+ hour streams. She really should rest though jesus christ woman

>>23777321
It was a duet off colab with Kobo.

>>23777175
>Sasaki Saku is literally one of the most recognizable Nijis.
Because of all the Luna bullying
> SOMEONE POST THE WEBM

>>23777343
This could have been live though instead of a premiere.

>>23776758
>>23776629
this will be the "kuzuha vs hal" of the month isn't?

>>23777319
The same anon that post regularly posted today, the incorrect cut was an oversight.

>>23777428
I think it have to be a premeire cause it's part of youtube music week. I remember IRyS was last year aswell.

>>23777321
Jee, i dunno

>>23777410
Kaela actually peaked at 2k this stream after some Kobo funnel. Didn't expect that from Cluster Truck, but it's above her median.
Not bad after people were doomposting about her right after her debut.

>>23776830
Wrong

>>/vt/thread/S22871649#p22874632

The Millie stream was not included in the EN Tally

>>23776592
Most of the Holo ENs have overlapping audiences which behave similarly and are gonna be culled fairly similarly. Whatever the underlying issue that is making youtube not count English speaking vtubers is going to effect people across the board, whether that's adblock, tab out, emote spam ect. The only thing that would be different if it's caused by geolocation disparity between streamer and audience, which would cause different behavior for Mori/IRyS, Kiara, Bae/Sana, and the NA girls.

reine 5k get

>>23776971
Yeah, but that was a pool on a stream that just started, so viewers are still getting processed

>>23777428
all youtube music weekends are premieres

>>23777038
> he hasn't experienced Sasaki's phat ass
only electricity can cure this level of faggotry

>>23777524
Her debut was really one of the worst in a long time, but she is actually a pretty good streamer. Also help she streams insane hours.

>>23777524
yeah, I respect her tenacity

>>23777465
Does anyone care about the cripple olympics enough to go this batshit over it?

>>23777497
I was thinking she could have done a few more takes since it's a premiere to get it perfect.
But it's already 20 min, so probably no time for re-takes.

>>23777150
huh, neat. I hope he talks about it on stream so we can get another source for how much these cost (dunno if he has anyone watching him from /here/ though)

I really wish Reine debuted as an EN

>>23777524
I mean she's still under a heavy debuff. She might not ever catch Sana in subs, much less anyone else in ID.

>>23777581
Why are you lying? It was 50 minutes into 1 hour 9 min stream: https://youtu.be/pcr15OkSKqc?t=3013

>>23777673
I'd hope not, but you never know with /#/.

>>23777639
Has anyone been tracking how many ccv this YouTube music weekends get for comparisons to vtuber? Just the top and noname artists would be nice.

>>23777410
>>23777524
>>23777662
I've seen it since her first week, she's ID Koyori. She literally said today that 3 streams per day is normal for her.

>>23777673
Nah, the reason why the Kuzuha vs. Hal thing blew up is because it was looking like there was a chance Nijisanji could go the entire month without a single gold and some people really wanted that to happen. When Niji actually won a gold that wasn't disputed that died down pretty quickly.

>>23777673
She won the global tally, but it was ignored there.

>>23777743
I so want her to be Queen of EN.
Even Kiara would gladly share power as her consort.

Ayamy (my girlfriend) has been streaming ASMR to nearly 1k viewers... This is huge for her... I'm so proud of her

>>23777551
Crazy that just the simple act of doing archive reps can kill a lot of bullshit right at the start. If only more people did it. This shows that obviously botted streams have a history of not counting towards EN Gold so that should end the issue right there.

>>23777843
What was the name of the forum that compiles these from ikioi?

>>23777808
It was so stupid because it shouldn't be an argument in the first place since vrabi recorded a bigger number for Kuzuha than any site did for Hal.
Whole thing just felt like one anon REALLY didn't want a single Nijigold that month and called anyone who disagreed a Nijinigger.

Not like it would've mattered even if they didn't win a single gold since Kuzuha had a 29k median in April 2022, which is absurdly good, and only looks "small" next to Aqua's 70k.

>>23777843
she and her fake 40k+ viewers

Roberu is in a hot streak that only that
>Dying Light
is breaking.

What the fuck is even that game?

>>23777958
Botted streams have won EN gold like a dozen times already.

>>23777843
Ikioi daily tallies don't get posted until several hours after our tally is, it's useless as a source because of that

RABU RABU!!!

>>23777625
TE WO AGETE
CLAP YOUR HAND UMI NO MUKOU MADE
CLAP YOUR HANDS TODOKIMASU YOU NI
TE WO TATAKOU TE WO TATAKOU

>>23776589
>>23776629

kys

I've heard that ID PewDiePie Shilled Kobo, is that true?

>>23778017
Pretty big triple A zombie game, that sold pretty well in the west. Doubt it is big in Japan though.

>>23778017
It's a zombie game that is overly focused on parkour for some reason.

>>23777997
The issue, and it was a legit issue in my opinion, is that if vrabi recorded a higher number for Kuzuha it is logical to assume it would have recorded a higher number for HAL as well if he was tracked. Its over though.

>>23777885
Ayame actually broke 1k with her ASMR once
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/rRWG87TNCUs

>>23778024
Kek yeah that's why Vox has 30k viewers right now instead of a measly 8k playing a horror game.
He's not even going to get 10k with a horror game overlapping with only fungus.

>>23777997
You underestimate the allure of being able to shitpos legitimately

>>23776734
>no lolis in Council
>Councilschizo is into CP
It all makes sense.

>>23778085
yes it's true. He liked her since the debut week

>>23777980
It's from the twitter account
https://twitter.com/ikioi_ranking/status/1522335362156154880

>>23778024
The issue is that while we all believe the NijiEN karaoke streams are botted it's not 100% obvious. The Millie stream and the Sara stream are no doubt 100% botted with no deniability at all.

>>23778109
>Could have
Doesn't matter, tally-anon doesn't use hypotheticals and never has, and by the same rules Pekora managed to sneak a win from Kuzuha based off of Holostats peak being higher than any recorded Kuzuha number last year.

>>23777038
On the other hand, no one was upset Chart anon used Haru instead of Kaida.
>>23776902

Oh yeah, hornyposting?
>1,939 Works
>0 usable

Guess not

>>23777085
Yui needs lewds

>>23777551
>>23777958
>>/vt/thread/S22871649#p22876663

>>23777569
The recorded culling rate:
Ame > Gura >> Mori > Kiara >> Ina
Other disparity are timezone, timeslot, content and etc.

>>23776734
baelz is an oppai cunny tecnicaly

>>23778085
He was straight up watching her stream on his lol

>>23778183
Have ID ecelebs come skulking around her channel/socials like people did with early era Gura?

>>23777769
>never catch Sana
Yeah, thats bold statement anon. At this pace, assuming nothing changes. She can catch up.

>>23778247
That is a different tally with different rules. We are talking about Sara winning EN Gold here, not overall gold.

>>23776902
TALLY ANON IS A FLARE ANTI HE DIDN'T INCLUDE HER COLLAB PARTNER WATAME'S 10K YET AGAIN

AHOY

>>23778247
Lmao

>>23778301
no it's mainly just him.

>Reine is doing this like a DJ at a club instead of just a generic karaoke
I kneel. This is pretty fucking Kino.

>>23778276
The rrat sounds like a hag trying to use zoomer speak

>>23778230
>hornyposting
dozo

>>23778109
>it is logical to assume it would have recorded a higher number for HAL
That is *not* logical and a counterexample was provided for a stream in the same day with a lower peak on vrabi than on vstats
>7,648 :: https://www.vstats.jp/video/pzX2-i7h4gU
>7,627 :: https://vrabi.net/video/pzX2-i7h4gU
and the same could easily have happened for KuzuHal

It is not worthy relitigating it tho

Can someone explain why all Nijisanji graphs and tallys always look as if they're botting across most of their en branch? How is this possible?

>>23778215
It's pretty freaking obvious. I'm not inclined to split hairs over something being 95% chance botted vs 85% chance. If we're all gonna play pretend with the Niji streams then we might as well just throw whatever the displayed number is into the winner's spot regardless of context.

>>23778421
The power of 3D (VR debut)

>>23778459
No, which is why they still get put on that shitty Paralympics gold

>>23778421
Guess this was the stuff she tweeted about needing to commision within like 48-72 hours lol. Pretty Kino stuff with such a short production time.

>>23778459
Occam's razor

>>23778301
He doesn't need to. He's like Jun and PewDiePie.

>>23778459
you know why anon
>if it looks like shit, and smells like shit..

When's the last time Reine broke 5k ccv on a stream?

>>23778253
How do you derive that ranking?

>>23778516
>1000 viewers leaving and joining continuously over 5 to 10 minutes
what the fuck...

>>23778499
Well not just the 3D but the way the music is. It's like a club mix.

>>23778351
kek, sorry Watame, better luck next time

>>23778421
Why is watching a fucking owl waving a sword so fucking funny to me?

>>23778459
>The fujo/yumejos did something that caused YT to flag their demo as sus, causing weird verification curves
>Since said demographic has overlap across all of NijiEN (males), collabs (with females) and some of NijiJP, it spread to them
Is the most reasonable guess since botting/viewfarming THAT many streams seems....unlikely, whereas doing it for Karaokes (and causing poor unsuspecting users to get flagged and pass it around like CCVID did) seems more reasonable.

>>23778636
Excuse you sir, she's a peafowl.

>>23778351
Sheep hit 10k at 1:45am using her patented funnel catch technique

>>23776902
>>23778628
>>23778351
Watamage will remember this

>>23778459
Doesn't happen to the girls, but it happens to the guys a lot at this hour. Most likely something funky going on with the CN audience.

https://vrabi.net/video/6mk1oXsnaxk
Reimu wormed for the first time last night because it's mostly Vox's audience watching her.
The intense rises and drops are just FNAF behaviour. I don't get it either, but I was watching Ike to study why it drops and watched him drop 2000 viewers the moment he lost, just to regain the 2000 back a few minutes when he restarted. Like what's the point of leaving if you're going to come back?

So is Kobo evidence that HoloID streaming in English so much hurt their growth?

Jesas, it's still going. Does she have the longest segment so far?

>>23778459
The girls streams never look like that, as far as I know, at least not their solo ones.

>>23778697
PLEASE WATAMAGE, HAVE MERCY ON MY OSHI!
>which conveniently happens to be Vox

>>23778651
>Is the most reasonable guess since botting/viewfarming THAT many streams seems....unlikely
Is the idea they are botting really that unlikely though?

>>23778732
Reimu and Enna did both yesterday and they had boys on their streams so who the fuck knows

>>23778697
>Tallyanon once again showing his hatred of Flare/Watame
Tallyanon hate!
(I kid, but unfortunately these two are the most affected since they peak well after the cut-off but start the day before)

Reine 6K get

>>23778714
It's 45 min per segment, she still have 8 minutes

>>23778517
Reine's greatest talent is being rich.

6k for Reine, she is actually doing way better than i expected.

>>23778709
Anon, both Moona and Ollie are over 1M subs and Moona is hitting 5k easily on rebroadcasts of karaoke

>>23778742
>Vox oshi
Get out

>>23778459
Shitposting asides, no one knows. Their graphs look suspicious - that's true, but it's not really a confirmed sign of botting or viewfarming. Unless anons can consistently replicate that kind of graph with bots or viewfarms, >we can't conclude that it was bots beyond reasonable doubts.
My guess is that graph was probably the result of how YT verification process deal with Chinks' VPNs (which would explain why it mainly affects Niji Males - started with NijiEN Males but has been slowing affecting some NijiJP males too), but well, I can't be 100% sure either.

>>23778421
Be careful, anons here shit on HSKW, Kizuna and Rion last year for a similar setup
https://youtu.be/9lPuJIcGdUM?t=3279

minus SOLV sword swinging and permanent ;)

>>23778751
For EVERY stream and random NijiJP streams that hit only 1-2k?
Yes.
I can believe that they'd try shit on things like Karaokes and whatnot, but worming on a 4k peak random stream? Sounds like verification fuckery attached to view-history, just like the culling from CCVID is attached to viewer-history. Given how much of a goddamn monstrosity their code-base probably is....

>>23778754
I mean it obviously have something to do with the boys Fujo/chink audience. Whatever that is more than that is speculation, but it is pretty suspicious.

>>23778797
NO WATAMAGE, PLEASE DON'T DESTROY HIM!

>>23778751
Yes, unless you think sub 2k Niji JP streams are being botted

>>23778751
Yes. Given how wide its spread the idea that Niji is botting <2k streaming is fucking stupid.

>>23778697
Please watamage, you've done enough

>>23778215
Yea because this was totally legit. The reason the global tally keeps even botted streams is because deciding what is botted and what isn't with 100% accuracy is not possible, you could simply call it a bug. You were a fool for deciding to not go this route for your paralympics gold.

>>23778799
Tell that to Ratna or naraka's sponsored dbd stream that got boosted for 500-1k ccv a few days ago.

>>23778709
No, it kept their branch alive until it could get a good footing, just like early era Hololive's dependence on the Chinese market. If they had just kept streaming in Indo and prayed for a miracle they might be in the junk heap with Niji ID or may have never received a 3rd Gen, not to mention they wouldn't be paying their bills the whole time.

>>23778874
>>23778864
>>23778839
I don't believe you. I think they are being botted. Even the smaller streams.

>>23778709
Reine tried catering to the ID audience after her debut and switched after 2 weeks. Kobo is the only ID who it is not a buff to stream in English for, except maybe Anya but it would be JP for her.

>>23778907(me)
Enough damage already*
Watamage is already messing up with me.

>>23778751
Yes. There have been, what, like hundreds of Niji streams with that kind of graph so far including guerillas and non-Asian hours streams. Botting all those would have required shit ton of efforts, money and most importantly, coordination. People would have likely caught a whiff of it if that was the case.

>>23778193
>https://twitter.com/ikioi_ranking
spams charts every 17 minutes
thanks... it's... unusable

>>23778922
You can't seriously be this stupid can you?

>>23778839
the cull just cuts your numbers, anon, they don't just worm the graphs because it finds it funny

Wow lots of vox femtards in the thread today.

>>23778974
The rest of your argument is solid but
>People would have likely caught a whiff of it if that was the case.
is contradicted by the fact both the local autists and the nip ones "catching a whiff"

>>23774641
So... Anyone has his lewd?

>>23778422
Yeah, even though she's actually young, Rrat has a "how do you do, fellow kids?" kind of vibe to her which is uncomfortable to watch at times.

>>23778974
Anon, it simple enough for all the viewfarm accounts to go to a stream and wait there. Just have them go to one link by a single click from a pc connected to 1000 phones.

>>23778974
>coordination
open bot site, enter stream link, pay

>>23779030
We should probably loosen the rules when males win because most anons won't bother with gayposting lewds. Not that there are a lot to begin with for males anyways.

>>23778980
https://twitter.com/search?q=%E5%8B%A2%E3%81%84%E3%81%8C%E3%81%82%E3%81%A3%E3%81%9F%20from%3Aikioi_ranking&src=typed_query&f=live

>>23778974
Why just Niji though? What viewer mechanic could possibly cause that for just a specific company? Chinese don't typically watch random Niji JP streams in large numbers if we're saying it's VPNs. Japanese don't need to use VPNs to watch them. There's no foreigners of any other kind watching them.

>>23779151
What rule?

>>23779151
There are no rules against posting lewds of males, it is just that that is *not* what rocks the boat of fujos.
You can likely find a thousand pics of males presenting the surrogates of their audience with box shaped valentine chocolate boxes and this sort of display of affection but not enough lewds

>>23778864
Is this above his usual numbers or on par though?

>>23779067
It's just being an Asian with a strict-ish upbringing, it's actually really common with vtubers.

>>23779227
On par or even debuff. Kaida gets 3-4k pretty often, especially back when he didn't have fucked up looking graphs.

>>23779189
The suspected motive is the boosting the shares for the IPO and Bili2 being affliated to Nijisanji. It's in their best intentions to boost numbers in this period. They didn't do it earlier in the previous months because it would cost them a lot of money, it only started last month.

>>23779216
Time to start posting the gay smut fanfics from the Niji EN thread instead.

>>23778864
Another real weird thing about all the NijiEN boys graphs are just how fucking early they peak. Every other streamr have a slow and steady incline as people come in, but for Niji it just shoots straight to the peak and then slowly declines.

>>23778974
I think the idea of fujos botting is suspect because not even the insane kpop fujos do that. They just play the stream on a bunch of devices and when they do, they do it publicly and create guides and shit. Fujos probably wouldn't even think to do it.

>>23779019
I didn't mean just seeing suspicious looking graphs, I meant actually finding out that fujos had been talking and discussing about botting / viewfarming those streams. I.e: how everyone could see chinks' "strategy" or "war report" posts on NGA when they were botting and spamming Holos before

>>23776902
>>23779030
That's the... Lewdest I could find for him. Sorry but I'm not diving into fujo/yaoi-specialized websites for a tally.

/#/ is declining.

>>23778789
Not that surprising with how high effort it is.

>>23779396
hey man

>>23779384
Did... you just draw this shit?

>>23779334
And then they doompost about HoloEN for their streams having normal behavior.

>>23779378
Yes, you are correct, if fujos were actually doing it, there would be a lot of evidence on social media. This is /#/s though so don't bother mentioning that.

>>23779313
And they can't figure out how to do it without making it look weird? Over dozens of streams? That's the first thing I would do if I was their bot wrangler, find out how to layer the views across the length of the stream so it looks organic. Most of the stuff we see looks like amateur-hour, fan-with-50-China-dollars type of stuff.

Ok it peaked at 6k, and she funneled to Love Me Love Me, instead of Ollie's premiere. Sasuga Reine.

>>23779367
>Fujos probably wouldn't even think to do it
kek, you would be surprised

>>23779384
nigga no
stop

>>23779460
>you would be surprised
No, I've actually been around kpop fandoms and know the degenerate shit they do for numbers. Its VOD centric.

>>23779440
No lmao, pixiv id 6541418

>>23779378
Out of the three more or less recent confirmed cases of botting (Koron Ch., Millie and Sara) only the Millie anon publicly disclosed his intention and posted proof.

I am not saying this makes sense (it absolutely does not) but if Anycolor wanted to do it they would have both the financial means and the ability to do so and, unless they would be completely retarded, they would do so without a paper trail

>>23779384
cute feet!

>>23779453
Do you scour Chinese social media? Do you think anyone does? No one here even really knows what happened with the Holo CN branch because everyone spins whatever story they want and no one can actually look it up cuz it's all in bug script.

>>23779189
We know from CCVID that mass flagging by YT happens to accounts that watch the same channels, Luxiem have a lot of JP tourists watching, if they watch a botted to the moon Vox karaoke stream the AI will think they're bots too and then fucky stuff happens when they go back to watching Kanae/Touya/Kaida

>>23779457
You say that, but do they really care? They only need one click to move thousands of accounts to wait on one stream and have it there for one hour. Then, move it to the next. They'll need to pay more if they want to organize 500 accounts to move at 10 minutes then another 20. Too much effort.

>>23779450
Don't kid yourself. There's nothing normal about 4-6 mins to recover waiting rooms and having spikey graphs that crawl by 100 viewers as the likes increase faster than CCV.

>>23779367
>insane kpop fujos dont bot
kek

>>23779561
Yes they do. Shit from weibo leaks to twitter and to here all the fucking time. Drama spreads from there to here all the time. Some of them fucking egosearch there.

>>23779580
Also, this has been going for a while. They can't coordinate all the accounts to every stream in every hour for the rest of the month just to make it non suspicious.

>>23779561
no, but the nips definitely do, and if they ever found evidence of the chinks botting streams they'll hollering it at the top of their lungs, and knowing how information travels around these parts it won't take long before it shows up here

>>23779367
chink fujo hands wrote this

>>23779514
The other thing is that the snake from prism botted stream actually acted kinda normalif it was a big stream. You could see people posting as it went up by 3-4k in the thread. It is properly the best example of "smart" bots/viewfarmed stream we have.

>>23779625
Are you gonna post proof of a fujo admitting to buying bots? It should be easy enough given how many of them thete are and how much they numberfag. (Not viewfarming for VODs, thats a seperate and well known thing)

I can't believe how this thread is garbage and still one of the best of the board. Holy shit.

>>23779561
There's been someone here translating Vox discussions on Weibo as there was for NGA back when they were relevant

>>23779721
my general is pretty good most of the time

>>23779721
>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD ON THE MOST INFLUENTIAL BOARD

Underwhelming in both numbers and performance compared to Reine

>>23779721
/#/ is simultaneously the best and worst thread on /vt/

>>23779695
It kept dipping and then spiking back up, it was very wormy. Honestly looks like a big Niji EN stream, just on a vtuber that was getting 40X her normal number instead of only 6X.

So let me get this straight. This is not botting, this is not viewfarming, this is not fujos with VPNs. NijiEN's male graphs and now nijiJP male's ones are all fucked in some way simply because Susan decided to have some fun with them in particular. Is this correct?

>>23779721
hey, i like my split
kinda

>>23779791
She's not a good singer and she's singing in indog when most of them are probably sleeping.

>>23779791
>numbers
it just started, you retard

>>23779774
Sapling...

>>23779824
Just think of it as reverse culling I guess.

>>23779791
She got saddled with singing in Indog, and it's like 12:30 AM. Also no new 3D model and she's a bad singer.

>>23779718
viewfarming is botting in the end of the day, retard

>>23779721
The best on the board by far if you know how to not bite petty baits and how to numberfag properly with mostly false numbers.

Roha with 1k+ again on 360° piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYGeU5FHFrk

Before this, her numbers had fallen off a cliff.
She used to be the top NijiKR after Bora left and before Nagi's rise.

>>23779569
>chinks fuck over honest JPs
Typical.
>>23779623
Not what I was referring to. I’m talking about the routine shitposts about how HoloEN is dying/Council is a flop based on whatever numbers they have when they’ve just started instead of waiting for the peak. Probably should have said that HoloEN streams behave “more normally” compared to Luxiem.

>>23779824
No one fucking knows so stop asking about this topic that will never end ffs.
Some will die on the hill that it's bots, some will insist it's Susan. We will have this conversation again tomorrow when Luxiem streams at CN time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keqNZZ-DdYw
https://youtu.be/yzdw42O0qeg?t=8389
So Kobo was raided by this fatso who is actually a big deal on the ID streaming scene.
While is good for Kobo...actually I'm afraid now with more twicth streamers moving to Youtube they may pull this antic to raid Holos without using the raid function.
Imagine if some big shot does this for Gura's return stream.

>>23779824
No, don't try to change it, fujochink. It's viewfarms most likely. If it was YT, it would've affected everyone not just Nijis.

>>23779887
No it is literally not.

Why nijien are not invited to YouTube Music Weekend?

>>23779791
OH, didn't even know she was doing that.

>>23779718
not only does viewfarming have the same result as botting, but who would admit to botting

>>23779940
kek this is the hill you choose to die on

>>23779824
These aren't the bots we're looking for. You can go about your business.

>>23779824
Niji EN were botting/viewfarming and Susan's retarded AI culled Niji JP males is what I'm going with from what info we have now

>>23779932
>raid Holos without using the raid function.
Anon, that has a name here
>funnel

>>23779932
>Imagine if some big shot does this for Gura's return stream.
Big numbers.
I welcome it and people who bitch about raids should kill themselves. The girls aren't snowflakes that need your protection.

>>23779932
they won't actually be able to use the raid function though since that would require gura/holo members to have them whitelisted

>>23779932
Gura will ignore it like always. It's free viewers so who cares. I think the only person she would legit get unnerved by is Pewdiepie raiding her.

Ollie is really debuffing herself by singing in ID. Though i can respect the effort of translating all the songs and making them work.

>>23779949
Bilibili/twitch streamers.

>>23780047
Youtube fucking up and putting Indonesian subs for all three languages isn’t helping either.

>>23779932
I mean, they tried to do it early on, you could see Gura's stream become
"I came from cheezwuzz streamer"x100
"wow iPeenutz donated"x200
but they ignored it so hard that most of them stopped.

ID was always worse though. Ollie especially had it rough for a while.

>>23779911
>I’m talking about the routine shitposts about how HoloEN is dying/Council is a flop based on whatever numbers they have when they’ve just started instead of waiting for the peak.
These posts would've kept happening even if Luxiem never existed. It's just generic shitposts in this thread and at this point, you should've learned to ignore them by now instead of entertaining them.

>>23780010
Gura's chat goes so fast that it wouldn't really matter.

>>23779721
/#/ is literally all in one. You can find literally everything /here/. But at the same time we're cursed with all kind of schizos

>>23780046
Pewdiepie doesn't get a lot of viewers on his streams, they're usually 10k, he does guerillas whenever he wants to.

>>23779932
>Already 11k when he watched her
Well that was a weak ass raid since her numbers barely moved from that

>>23780047
Pretty sure this is managerial, she never sings in ID normally. Wouldn't surprise me if Risu's set is Japanese.

>>23779938
VSPO and Holo JP caught CCVID before Niji did, it's totally possible that the reverse is happening now

>>23779932
according to moonafag >>23771437

>>23780114
I don’t, I’m replying to someone talking about Luxiem being the only ones getting a near-instantaneous peak. It’s not hard to follow a reply chain.

>>23779932
Oh no, someone might tell their viewers to watch Gura. The... tragedy? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with your head anon?

>>23779949
>>23780047
Imagine choose Ollie instead of Enna LMAOOO

Homo song and it is ID. The mother of all debuffs.

>>23780121
It doesn't matter, she's a fan of his and would start freaking out internally if she knew that he was paying attention to her. She almost lost her shit over just some rando spoofing his name in one of her early MC streams.

>>23779949
Probably management and personal decision. Kazaki is the only Niji besides the main channel in Youtube Music Weekend.

>>23780181
Who?

>>23780180
>REEEEEEEEEE muh chat culture ruined by twitchfags...

>>23780187
Which?

>>23780181

>>23779908
I'm actually enjoy this. It'd be better for my experience if she has proper 3d model

>>23780181
Who?

>>23780205
>She almost lost her shit over just some rando spoofing his name
Bit exaggerated there.

>>23780121
he always has his chat set to member only so that filters tourists

>>23779932
Well its Windah, one of the good ID streamer who support local streamers

>>23780144
>managerial
It's entirely on them if they wanna do something different to stand out. Reine chose 3D, Ollie chose singing in Indonesian, Risu, I think, is just doing normal Karaoke.

>>23779908
I think it’s cool how consistent she is with the piano streams

>>23779932
>a family with a young kid watching holos
This is why Yagoo wants to keep it family friendly.

>>23780394
Risu Karaoke is already standing out due to her wasting her talent.

>>23779949

>Mori
Artist of Universal Music

>Reine
Royal family member

>nijiEN(CN)
Who...?

* HoloID vs. NijiEN *
OK; this is getting more interesting for a horse race than anything else right now

>>23780394
Anon, Risu doing karaoke is a huge buff to her. Like 90% of her singing streams are acapella.

>>23779367
>not even the insane kpop fujos do that

>>23780544
Did I say that it wasn't? I'm just saying that Risu is doing something... not new.

Ollie may not be able to sing worth a shit, but translating all these songs into indog that can be sung relatively close to the beat is hard as fuck. She clearly put in effort beyond just playing a bunch of old video clips like I usually see in these Youtube Music Weekend streams.

>>23780505
>celebration stream
>not even 10K
roru
rumao

>>23779695
Nah, it GOT that many viewers because of the botting in the first place.
> bot a 2view to 40k CCV
> now it appears in Youtube recommendations
> more people get interested and click on it (they just need to stay for 30s to get counted).
voila, you have a 10k VOD from someone who normally has <1k

>>23779721
I have a lot of fun here, ignoring schizos comes naturally after a while.

>>23780505
Kobo should have went for the throat with "First Time Playing Plants Vs Zombies as a Hololive Vtuber Celebration".

>>23779932
>>23774457

>>23780712
>cope
>seethe
>dilate

>>23780653
Anon im not talking about the VOD but her live CCV. she didnt reach 40k instantly but over a period of 30-60 minutes with a live play by play in the thread.

>>23780505
The HoloID vs. NijiEN tier goes

1. Kobo "Kobo" Kobo
2. NijiCN "males"
3. HoloID (non-Kobo "Kobo" Kobo)
4. NijiCN male onaholes

>>23779695
>>23780653
This is why botting is worth it even for youtube. It bring attention, a lot of it, and you gain real viewers.