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Cover hiring Spanish translators https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs
>>23756563Who streams on the US primetime again in NijiEN?from what I look in here and with EST in mind:https://teamup.com/ks1mraas71v3fjf1c2Morning: Vox, Ike, Alban, Yugo, Mysta, FulgurAfternoon: Enna, Nina, ReimuNight: Elira, Finana, Pomu, Rosemi, Selen, Enna, Reimu, Millie, Uki, Shuafter Midnight: Petra, Luca, Sonny
A TOAST TO HOLOLIVE
>>23756831>Marine and EN Holotubers don't show on my feed anymore>When they do it's usually just translated clips from a year ago>Caught Fubuki streaming today by pure coincidence>3000 viewersHas the bubble burst? Are vtubers going down the shitter or what? I remember when 10,000 viewers was a miniscule amount, the fuck happened?
>>23756915¡Es verdad!
>>23756915Hologra has Spanish translation since last year, nothing burger
>>23756951anon, the vtuber boom has number rotted you, vtubing is still not a mainstream hobby, these are normal views
>>23756951Fubuki has always been like that. For the western vtuber market yes it peaked in 2020 but the decline has halted and it's basically plateaued.
>>23756915also hiring for mating press the talents
>>23756951>I remember when 10,000 viewers was a miniscule amountTell me the approx or exact date for when do you believe that is true and I can likely go back and fetch how many 10k+ streams there were that day, and with the utmost confidence I can tell you how many streamers from Holo and Niji averaged 10k back then. I believe you are either misremembering or outright lying
>>23756951HoloJP is bigger than ever in Japan
>>23756915HOLOES SOON
>>23756915FUCK I SHOULD'VE DONE MY JAPANESE REPS
>>23756942Keep in mind there are like 5 NijiENs on break this week, and others busy because of the 1yr anniversary next week, so best to look at 2 weeks ago for a better idea on coverage.
>>2375695110k never was miniscule amount. When it comes to Fubuki, she's playing right now one of most debuff games possible.
>>23756942only like 5 people are constant on na time and they overlap constantly.anyone thinking that nijien has any force on na time is dumb.
so they fucked, didn't they?
>>23757166>Insert random comment of decline or whateverFeels like Niji should be close on releasing a new gen actually, so I'm wondering if we can expect something soon
>>23757261>Fulgur Ovid from NIJISANJI EN's NoctyxThat sounds really forced
>>23757261nah, just lazy creative writing
>>23757319Sounds like some computer generated shit.
>>23757166> busy because of the 1yr anniversary next weekpomu and fina are still streamingand elira is on a breakwhat celebration you talking about
>>23757286Maybe in a month or two. Auditions closed at the very end of March, and there were no pre-designed models showed off this time (unlike for Ethyria), so I don't expect them to have a new wave out as quickly as they did for Ethyria.>>23757454Lazulight 1yr anniversary on the 12th, NijiEN 1yr anniversary on the 15th.
>>23757166there's 4, i mentiond them before. elira, shu, uki and millie.I wasnt looking for this week when i said that, but on previous ones without break.>>23757286It's june. I 100% dont believe in May because there's already a event with lazulight and nijien one year. But not only that, but they take about 3 months to do all of the process, so the first wave from the 4th audition based on previous patterns would be likely in June. Im betting on 3 mixed in june and then 3 more in september.
Niji gold?
>>23757498> NijiEN 1yr anniversary on the 15th.who the fuck celebrates the branch cration? might as well overshadow lazu ones
>>23757498>NijiEN 1yr anniversary on the 15th.>they even spaming celebrations for the branchlol
>>23756949come on now
>>23757537Dai-senpai Elira debuts on that day. Show some respect.
>>23757498>Lazu 12th>NijiEN 15th>different celebrationsman I think nijiEN found the path to forging numbers in a way unseen before, theyre tenacious ill give them that
>>23757498>NijiEN 1yr anniversary on the 15th.this isnt even a jp thing what the hell
>>23756951> he missed Startend> he missed VSaikyou> he missed all the Asamios> he missed VTuberfesIt's easy to think that a hobby has reclined after you leave it (I thought the same for Dota) but most of the time it will survive with or without you.
So Play Dice hits 2m, Daydream hits 1m, and Irys... is a lost cause apparently
>>23757537>>23757578They haven't announced a celebration yet, but both ID and KR had branch songs released on their 1yr anniversaries, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same for EN.
>>23757578>>23757537Everyone? We dont know how its going to be but they already showed some merchandise for lazulight. its either going to be everything in one or one stream focusing in lazulight and another on all nijien.
>>23757261why is she speaking as if talking about someone from a different company?
>>23757498I wonder if Riku's gonna delay the new wave to overlap EN3
>>23757633It is a thing for ID and KR though. And it is a thing for JP, to the point of fantasia being a thing for the 4th year anniversary and the palettes songs last year being for the 3rd annivrsary.
Remember if anyone says anything about people who get 4 digits on the regular flopping, he's suffering from terminal numberrot. Please do not take any of his statements at face value and forcefeed him meds
>>23757660singing virtual real is one thing but that shit doesnt need any real work tor celbrate in any form.i agree with lzaulight but no way they are going to celerbate the whole branch creation.>>23757704fantasia is for all niji.
>>23757686She deluded herself to thinking she's a holo.
>>23757822Sasuga holoreject
Elira debut day + EN branch creation day ? They gonna milk that shit dry. Just split it into 2 different category and spam:>Celebration coundown>Celebration coundown part 2>Pre celebration>Celebration>Celebration collab>Celebration offcollab>Celebration with JP>Celebration with ID>Celebration on the NijiEN main channel>Celebration with Riku on NijiEN main channel>Celebration ASMR>Celebration ASMR collab>Celebration Karaoke>Celebration Karaoke Collab>Celebration zatsudan>Celebration Zatsudan collab>Celebration after party>Celebration after party part 2>Celebration superchat reading>Celebration rebroadcastWelcome to NijiEN
>>23757655>Irys... is a lost cause apparently She still that GHOST cover almost a 1 mil. But yeah...Hopefully her new MV does well.
>>23757578I just can't imagine how anybody can watch celebration streams every day
>>23757498>>23757633>>23757664>>23757660They might have been given permissions to cover "Virtual to Live"https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/uhh4ab/lazulights_virtual_to_live_cover_incoming/
>>23757908covers usually grow faster than orisongs and the Ghost cover has been out for 9 fucking months.
>>23757984virtual live is expectedbut no way they gonna do a separate stream for that shit.
>>23756951>Marine She barely streams>and EN Holotubers don't show on my feed anymoreThat's a good thing>Caught Fubuki streaming today by pure coincidence>3000 viewersThose are the normal numbers for FF14 streams
>>23758058I hate jpniggers so much
>>23758110Sour grapes, I understand
>>23758135that's not what sour grapes mean you retard
Interesting data I saw for nijien schedule in march and april. times in EST that they streamed the most.
>>23758152morning:Nina, Mysta, Vox, Ike, Alban, Fulgur, YugoAfternoon: Enna, EliraEvening/Night: Finana, Selen, Uki, Shu, Rosemi, Petra, Millie, Pomu, Reimu
>>23758150>sour grapes>used to refer to an attitude in which someone adopts a negative attitude to something because they cannot have it themselves.>ENniggers hates JPchads because they can't have good EN holos like in JPThat's exactly what it means
>>23758201>ENchads hates JPniggers because they can't have good EN holos like in JPHoly projection, but no go ahead and keep cutting off your nose to spite your face
>>23758177yeah pretty much the same 5 girls and shu are on prime NA .Alban pretty much moved from na prime to jst even tough he is a burger.
>>23758254Don't cry, maybe EN3 will get some good holo that can compete with mid tier JPs in terms of entertainment
>>23758201Keep seething. You know the JPs are superior in every way and your precious ENs will forever rot in obscurity
Do you have brain damage? Stop biting obvious bait retard
What drives a man to troll in /#/?
>>23758110>>23758058>EN not mentioned anywhere>"JPNIGGER"Where is this irrational hatred between JP and EN fanbase even came from?
>>23758331it is also obvlivios samefag
>>23758353Spending too much time in /jp/ gives you mental illnesses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFcBJ-_t4t0Sex and rape
>>23758361Yep, clearly trying to seed to see people take it. Nobody is taking, it's too early for EN vs JP
Today's gold is Niji 3D Debut, right?
>>23758421The only acceptable JP vs En talk right now is that between Kiara and Nene.
>>23758355>irrational hatredThe only thing that holoEN has is that it's a hololive EN branch. Change the branding to nijisanjiEN and they would be Petra tier
>>23758268there's 7 girls though. and uki also streams at na
Nene/Kiara 10K
>>23758476better be is the easiest gold ever uness a holo does a suprise anoucnement.
clean holobird to orange funnelpretty smooth slope so far
nene 10k
>>23758525millie and petra stream too late most of the time.i forgot uki existed
>>23758353Seeing Holobronies seethe and cope make the trolling worth it
>>23758355You know they would be nobodies if not for Hololive brand being attached to their name. JPs worked hard to grow the company all these years. Meanwhile what has the ENs done? All I see is EN doing is endlessly killing Hololive brand in the west through their terrible work ethics and empty promises
>>23758355as you can clearly see it's just one samefag hard at work with his epic troll, probably a nijinigger, don't pay too much attetion to it
his other baits stopped working in the other threads. too early though. this is /#/ dead hour
How many times is Nene going to slowly fly above Kiara's head and try to down B her?
>>23746692>>23746663Where are you faggots ? KNEEL!!!>>23758527>>23758565
>>23758684As often as it takes
ID3 is seriously overperforming, aren't they? Even Kaela is regularly getting numbers that used to be normal for either Moona or buffed Ollie and Reine alone.
>I only watch HoloJP>EN: JPNIGGER, YOU MUST BE A NIJINIGGER, THERE'S NO WAY SOMEONE WOULDN'T WATCH HOLOEN>no holoJP, no watch, simple as
>>23758744rfa is expectedim impresed kaela got with tetris but could be a one time things as people see how good she is-
>>23758815Kaela has pretty much had a floor of 1k no matter what she does, I honestly don't recall a single stream of hers that's fallen below 1k
>>23758744>Get a blue cunny in gen3>Incline massivelyThe HoLOLIve formulaAlso holy fuck Kaela is streaming again
One of the reasons this thread is moderately schizo free is because the new battleground of ot the board, for once, is not something involving Holos and Nijis but>Nyanners following Veibae footsteps and getting a boyfriendGoes to show something mentioned here before: many of western streamers see themselves as "streamers with avatar" and keep too little kayfabe and leak too much of their personal lives into their streams.I genuinely pity her fans not because I think they're not happy for her (the non schizo ones likely are) but because their threads will be unusable for some time.
>>23758353Unfortunately along with the "MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD" thing we've also gotten a reputation for giving out yous like candy
>>23758846most burgers are asleep so board slowdown at thsi time excpet for the fujos on nijien gernealthat is going to be a shitshow tomorrow tough.
>>23758839neither Zeta or Kaela have fallen below 1k. They are the most successful ID gen
>>23758842ID Koyori
>>23758846>many of western streamers see themselves as "streamers with avatar" and keep too little kayfabe and leak too much of their personal lives into their streams.anon this isn't unique to the west, many of the JP vtubers do that too. You're just more aware of it because you can read the language
>>23758744Kaela is working hard she even got more sc than kobo this week
>>23758862>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD ON THE MOST INFLUENTIAL BOARD/#/ is just that powerful. We give free (You)s for schizos, and also free shitposting material for them to bait for (You)s in the catalog
>>23758842>open Kaela's stream>"also I will stream again... tonight"Hag with no social lives are so powerful
>>23758744and to think that ID2 had to be speak english or die, they are successfully capturing the market
>>23758942Kobo has much less of an international audience compared to Zeta and Kaela. She gets more sociabuzz donations than them but they get more SCs
In the past 24 hours Kiara has been a part of a culled 17k collab and a soon to be 12k collab. How we feeling, incline bros?
>>23759023>Leeching>Incline
>>23759023Winning, of course
>>2375894222:34:44 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: okay next up is...kaela!!!22:34:58 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Ollie: These are good too i feel22:35:24 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Some of these are very good eh? The total is page of pentacles22:36:03 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Ollie: The health is King of Wand, Mio: Yep it's a king22:36:11 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] (kaela's total card: Dont rush, take it easy)22:36:56 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Well, this doesnt inherently mean bad but...being careful here and there is always good for her, physica-wise she is fine, but dont overdo it22:38:16 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: Now then, work, this is...a sleep card, reversed, well....idk if she is in a hurry or something, but, she needs to take it easy and rest and plan ahead for what comes after22:39:02 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] mio: As for the luck card, ths is THE LOVERS, so....i guess....this means she is quite a gambling addict lmao22:39:13 Minyak Sayur / ミニャク Ch. [EN] Mio: This is good tho, but careful not to get addicted too much on gambling lmaoOH NYOOO
>>23758959I'm gonna save her
Kaela just said 3 streams a day is normal for her. SASUGA ID KOYORI. I kneel to these monsters of streaming
>>23759139>idk if she is in a hurry or something, but, she needs to take it easy and rest and plan ahead for what comes afterBURN THE HAG WITCH
>>23758744they are going to lose viewers much like edengumi and holoX did, just give it time
>>23759259how long did it take for HoloX to lose viewers?
>>237592843-4months
>>23759284>>23759298he's also exaggerating to shit since edengumi and holoX aren't even close to the same tier
>>23759075who's leeching? both of them are literal low tier holo in terms of ccv
>>23758933I can listen to both (neither being my first language). I understand many of the JP do to one extent or another but, in general, there is a kayfabe line that is kept.I like to use seiyuus as an example, Megumin's seiyuu from Konosuba in particular: people know who she is, other roles she played (like Emilia from Re:Zero) but when she's in a Konosuba convention people expect her to talk more about her role in the show, her relationship with her cast mates and to throw the odd "EXPLOOOOSION" or diss of YunYun in character.People in that convention would likely be upset if, instead, she spent too much time (maybe *any time*) talking about her personal relationships with people not in the cast, her role as Emilia on Re:Zero or (let's say) her personal plans to open a pet shop and take care of cats and dogs in rural japan.Most of the genuine criticism Veibae received (including that mail she mockingly read on stream) was complaints that she was doing just that, being too much of "Veibae roommate" during Veibae streams without regards to the type of content she was doing as Veibae before. Now Nyanners seems to be following ther footsteps and I'll make a bold assumption>that behaviour, if accepted, may set the trend for VShojo and a large part of the western vtuber scene to just become "reverse Pokimane"Regular streamers using an avatar, except they started using the avatar before and not after getting traction
>>23758933>many of the JP vtubers do that tooAnd that's why hololive is inclining
>>23759340obvioulsy leeching of nintendo's excelent game
>>23759139WITCH! WITCH!
>>23759151an EN Kaela/Koyori unironically will save HoloEN deadhours
>>23759183>>23759139Lol, but joke aside she realy just need to stream every day, endurance stream in your first 2 months i think is unnecessary
>>23759151HAG I KNEEL
>>23758422On Ui's channel, PPT vs SuiseiNumber prediction?
>>23759453Over 15k but not 20k
>>23759340In the event a EN/JP collab it is always the EN who leeches off the JP no matter the circumstances
>>23757984Incoming> THEY DON'T DESERVE TO SING ITspam
>>23759453Weird combo, 17 ~ 20k
>>23759075>>23759340>>23759500>>23759391>LeechingWe don't do that here
>>23759404clearly her name needs to start with a K to be able to join the Kaela/Koyori
>>23759347The criticism I'm seeing is that Nyanners stopped streaming around the time she got her bf which is similar to Veibae basically not streaming for a month after she started dating.Another concern is that she'll start to incorporate him into her streams much more killing the previous mood.
>>23759151>>23759404i'd give my fucking kidney for a holoEN3 who's a hag that loves streaming and is the genki type like fubuki or koyori
>>23759552kronii..
>>23759606New rrat: Kronii was supposed to be Sana
>>23759347>that behaviour, if accepted, may set the trend for VShojo and a large part of the western *TWITCH vtuber scene to just become "reverse Pokimane"HoloEN has not had this issue (except Mori, who is appropriately shit on for it). NijiEN may eventually follow that path, but as long as it mostly stays outside of hololive, this is honestly a good thing.It is a powerful way to gatekeep the type of individual you wouldn't want in the hololive fandom.Someone from the "western" sphere will be more likely to be drawn into these "pseudo" VTubers, and fans of more dedicated VTubers will be much more relaxed for it.
>>23759596the need some old retired hag that doesn't need to work a second job and has free time
This game is sponsoring the girls, isn't it? Or it is just Botan and she's stringing the rest of the girls along?
>>23759500so gura would be called a leech if she collab with robocco? retarded mindset
>>23759606Kronii is not a hag
>>23759859Mio really likes EDF, but also the game has a collab with hololive, there's a giant Mio in it iirc
>>23759918a giant fubuki too
>>23759868>leechWe don't do that here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr5WRvp-xzYLui's team vs Subaru's team.
changs are already destroying koyo's chat, she forgot to set it to mems only
>>23760034She changed it to members only
>>23760022With a lineup like that it should win the day, assuming single pov. But then again, lui's channel. eh, should be able to get 40k+ at least.
>>23760034I'm out of the loop, why are zhangs targeting Koyo? bc FBK?
>>23760116Why else?
>>23760034She already switch it to membership only
>>23760109Today's winner will be Niji's 3D unless Lui pulls mad numbers.
>>23760034why are changs in her chat? what do they have against her?
>>23760034so what has irritated the bugs this time? Or is it just that she's collabing with fbk?
>>23760116yes, they do this to everyone that collabs with fubukiat least the pinned comment is cuteコメントメンバーシップ限定にさせていただきました!メンバーじゃない助手くんも大好きだよっ
>>23760109>it should win the day,Anon, mid tier Niji 3D debut today
>>23760022wait that's today? Wasn't it supposed to be on the 8th?
>>23760146>FubukingWhen you existence making the entire subhuman nation seeth for years.
>>23759596>reliable>experienced>mentally strong>maintain great connection with the rest of companyHags are the second best thing in Hololive after blue women
>>23760146>>23760152just that she's with fubuki, this has happened plenty of times before since koyori collabs with fubuki a lot, but all the other times she had it set to mems from the beggingit was quite the spam
>>23760109Niji 3D debut will take gold and I doubt it's single pov. Expecting at least double, one for each team.
>>23760146Your mistake is thinking that chinks are rational humans that can be reasoned with
>>23760139who's the debut for? They've flopped before, not even getting 30k for some of their no name members.Or is it a live?
>>23760146>>23760152Holy newfaggotry. This is SOP for the bugs, they spam anyone that collabs with Fubuki and hasn't got the protections set up yet. They can't spam Fubuki because her channel has the same setup that Coco's had to stop the spam, but her collab partners are vulnerable.
>>23760193We need a Blue hag
>>23760205does Fubuki have to set her chat to members only?
>>23760213Kaida Haru, ROF-MAO member and one of fujo's favorite.
>>23760223Lmao no, Blue need to be cunny for the magic to work. Get another color
>>23760224why can't they just apply that to everyone else though?
>>23760213It's a nijimale that is part of rof-mao, should be easy 80k+
>>23760224no fubuki doesn't have unique protections, she just has really long subs only mode enabled and the rest don't want to adopt it for whatever reason
>>23760224nah, I just assume bugs would want to have some real meat to go on for their harassment. But I am always forgetting their glass hearts.
>>23760276Not exactly a fujo favourite. He's a nobody before ROFMAO. He does good guitar streams and Minecraft.
>>23760276ah, then yes, that should be gold, anything else is an upset.
>>23760341When it comes to dealing with bugmen always assume the prettiest, most ridiculous reason you can think of, because that's usually true more often than not
>>23760329Oh, okay. I wasn't 100%sure what it was, only that they stopped spamming Fubuki as a result (I know Coco/Kson have it and that it's probably some sort of anti-vpn chat measures)
>>23760329>>23760428it's just 5 minute long subs only, surely other members can do that
Just imagine if Vox did a Taiwan yab or anything else that would break chinks glass hearts
Hmmm chances Pekora will be out today too since nothing on Twitter yet. Her luck really is shit
WHO WOULD WIN THIS ENGLISH MARKET BATTLE TO THE DEATH?>The MOST ANTICIPATED defection from Twitch, celebrated by Youtube Gaming themselves, publicized and catered to with massive changes in the whole streaming structure of the biggest streaming site of the world, buffed by his platform debut and the whole mainstream and social median pushing for him>A talking chicken THE ANSWER WILL BAFFLE; CONFUSE, IMPRESS YOU, CRACK YOUR EGGS AND UNBRAID PEKORA'S HAIR!
>>23760465he already did a taiwan yab and a china yab and nothing happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R2eM_FmlVg>Nose gets Hololive numbers nowGo Nose, go!
Fubuki stream is offline
>>23760564>Name Nose>Can't even see her nose, like at allFucking drop
>>23760564>hololive numbers>8kThose are numbers that even nijisanji gets all the time
>>23760564>nowShe is getting mid tier holo numbers for quite some time now
>>23760611No they fucking don't
>>23760611HoloEN and NijiEN struggle to reach those numbers
>>237606558k is top tier numbers for nijis
>>23760611Anon, 8k is above the median for all of these holos in this picture.
>>23760691these are all the streams nijisanji got over 8k yesteraday, out of 87 streams, and that's just on the JP side. Nijisanji does not get 8k "all the time"
>>23760713>all of gen 1Rest in peace, but they've toiled for 4 years already
>>23760655Yes they do. I didn't say it's for all nijisanji but on JP alone they have about 10 with a median over 8k
>>23760765these are all the streams nijisanji got over 8k yesteraday, out of 87 streams, and that's just on the JP side. Nijisanji does not get 8k "all the time"
>>237607138 out of 14 in this list are blondeslmao
>>23760691>>23760750You are showing to me a lot of streams beyond 8k. If you think I mean everyone in nijisanji gets 8k, thats on you, because thats not what i mean
>>2376076510 out of 140, that's still not all the time
>>23760611>>23760713>>23760564Here is a chart with Nose median for April in relation to Holo JP> Nose line
>>23760750Most of these streams got the worm
>>23760713>>23760815And here is how Nose compares to NIjiJP girls
>>23760807All the time is now equal to everyone and majority? It's obvious I mean the organization nijisanji gets 8k streams all the time. If there's 1 it already would be fine but they get more than 5.
>>23760798You are the one claiming that "even nijisanji gets (8k) all the time", like it's something they can pull whenever any niji streams when less than 10% of them can get that number on a regular basis. That's not a nijisanji standard
>>23760815god I hate apex
>>23760862>All the time is now equal to everyone and majority?Yes, anon that's what all the time means
>>23760862>nijiniggers in charge of English
>>23760856my eyes hurting trying to read this shit
>>23760864I didn't say it's a nijisanji standard as in it's all of their vtubers. My argument is that much like hololive, every day you'll find many streams over 8k.
>>23760815>>23760856>59 in both
>>23760862yes anon that's exactly what all the time means
>>23760897You don't even need to click the thumb anon, just look where the purple line is in relation to the rest
>>23760902then don't use all the time you absolute fucking cretin
>>23760034It's always funny to hear newfags /here/ concernfagging about "hololive pissing off the fujos oh no" when they've been living with this shit for the better part of 2 years already.
>>23760891I'm a holofag, i dont know shit about nijsanji outside of what i read in this thread. and the numbers I see have like 10-11 of them on jp alone over the nose number
>>23760906That number is the global ranking position
>>23760938>I'm a holofag
>>23760862>All the time is now equal to everyone and majority?Yes. If it wasnt, then it use some of the time or rarely
>>23760938that's less than 10% of nijisanji, they absolutely do not get 8K "All the time"
>>23760495he's not relevant enough yet, that thing was a minor yab when compared to something like Coco."Taiwan" was just casus beli they just needed any reason, however small, to attack her.
>>23760862This is the part where we all point and laugh
>forced tribalism falseflagging
Botan is understandable but damn even Mayodog and Mamawolf are beating Fubuki
>>23761009Holo vs Niji is the name of the game here anonchama
>>23760979ok so then nijisanji gets 8k streams all days, is it better for you now? is there even one day they didn't get it?
>>23761009
>>23760872The Nose is streaming Minecraft right now, it's not even an Apex buff or debuff. Astel by comparision is back down to sub 1k viewers streaming Apex.
>>23761025there's 2 reasons for that, one fubuki has had 2 streams already, she's streamed for 7 hours today so her base has had plenty of her already, and 2nd she's pissed off tourists with her ff14 spamshe'll be back in shape when she's done with FF and does some buff content
https://youtu.be/b6EnY_tcdlcPekora>SC offprobably ER
looks like you idiots are jerking too hard to fucky ccv again
>>23761209>using koyori's vodslmao, you guys really aren't used to the vods of people who stream a lot
>>23761235>koyori doesn't count!
>>23760034what did fubuki do to changs?
give me one reason to watch a Koyori VOD when she's live all the time
>>23761280just ate lunch with coco and tweeted about it
>>23761315anon, mumei's vod was higher even just a few hours after both streams were done
>>23761280Decisively dropped them when given the choice between kowtowing to them or supporting Coco.
Fubuki loves the smell of napalm in the morning
>>23761174A sub 20k stream then, nothing to worry about
>>23761405OH NO NO NO ZHANGS DON'T LOOK
>>23761344yes, because people checked it out, koyori was already streaming again an hour laterbecause you know, they're using different strategies to achieve different results, not everyone has to be fucking gura and have the same behavior on vods you dumbass
why is fbk getting the lowest numbers of the group?
>>23758744ID1: tried to break into the ID market, failed. Tried to speaks English, not really that successful but enough to keep them afloat. Moona had to lower herself into a leech to finally ID1 able to break into the international market and ride the EN wave of 2020.ID2: by the time they debuted, ID market deemed to be a failure, the top local agency can only get max 500 ccv, fully pandering to EN was the way.ID3: the end of 2021 saw the sign of ID market inclining. It was so subtle (until it apparent in January) that Niji ID management failed to see that and began the idea of merging the branch. Looks like Holo ID management was way more competent and they saw the signs, then proceed to take the risk of recruiting a talented and highly potential vtuber who can't speak English, breaking their tradition of pandering to EN.Combine all of that with maybe the EN fanbase's boredom towards their own talents, voila, Holo ID struck gold.
>>23761405No wonder the zhangs are riled up.Fubuking exterminating their kin
>>23761436every new post from you is more retarded than the last, nice
>>23761442already discussed a bit up, but it's not like it really matters, botan, koyo and fubuki are already over their medians, it's actually mio that's underperforming a bit, but that usually happens to her on collabs
>>23761442She's not doing anything as exciting as fishing for 50 hours straight.
>>23761473kek
>>23761488mio doing 10k on a multi pov seems fine to me
>>23761316does anyone have that post about what Fubuki did that caused the zhangs to seethe for eternity?
>>23759361True
My hawk hag becomes a 3view
What's this? Isn't Zatsudan his buff streams?or is it because it's not ASMR and no [Celebration] tag?
>>23759361True. I watch Hololive or Vtuber in general because I want to see cute anime girl does cute anime things, to escape from real life, not because I want to see WhoreA/ ThotB in an anime avatar talking about how they want cum and shit.
>>23761280>>23761595here
>>23761705>Shilling a 5 years old game>Only 10minutes in>1k already
>>23761595Her Bilibili fans thought that she thought she would disown Coco because she's "the canary in the coal mine", but she didn't
>>23761471Niji ID management didn't begin any idea of a merger since this came from JP to merge both KR and ID. Not that it would make much difference either way if it didn't happen as the merger only was announced in march and effectively in april
>>23761488>fubuki are already over their mediansdamn I thought she was higher even with all the debuff streamsgen1 is basically at the bottom of JP except for roboco right now
Is Kiara getting EN gold today? I don't see Mori's stream beating the collab
>>23761792>No celebration/karaoke/ASMR>Shit numberEvery single time
>>23761792It's guerrila stream
>>23761811based fox, bugs should all be blow torched.
>>23757261Why is this in numbers?
>>23761471Holy shit this is a dumb take
>>23761595> KILL that locust> I feed your's food> do it Fubuki!
>>23761960no loyal fanbase then? I remember Mumei's guerilla zatsu got more than this.
>>23761792It is pretty simple anon>Vox is a huge streamer>But only for certain streams>Also sometimes they just fail for reasons>So you shouldn't ask questions about his wiggler
i hate what the men turned the public perception of nijien into
>>23761938yes, gen1 is super dead, however fubuki always has a chance to claw herself out of it, she's done it before plenty of times
>>23761988Usually for geurilla streams you get steady growth as people find out about it. This one is tailing off instead. Curious isn’t it?
>>23761938>gen1 is basically at the bottom of JPIn one hand, yeah. OTOH the fact every single JP member is around or above 3k is remarkable, considering the floor used to be closer to 2k
>>23761960>Guerilla stream>Already scheduled 4-5 hours before hand
>>23762002this but unironically
>>23762035It's not a guerilla it's been on the schedule for hours
>>23762073then that's even worse lmao
>>23761811danke
>>23762009Public perception is they abandoned the actual Western market to become se sort of homeless man’s Twitch/pander to lonely chinks? Is that inaccurate or something? Where does perception differ from reality?
>>23762038>>23762073lol is that real? That's not guerilla stream.The real example of guerilla streams are those of debuff detective>put reservation frame on less than 1h before stream>tweet less than 30 mins before stream, sometimes no tweetIt's her normal routine btw.
>>23762073Nijiniggers with their lies. Lmao I saw that stream schedule on Vrabi for like half a day ago, when some anon was talking about alban Uno collab worm.
and as usual, another nijiCN is worming right now
morning fellas. who's running for gold?
>>23761979Tell me your smart take?
The sad thing is 5-6k would've been very respectable and way better than anyone had bet for the males. If the whole bot arc never happened they'd be considered a surprise success instead of this controversial element.
>>23762181Niji 3D debut gets it for the day
when will HoloEN retards stop seething at NijiEN and shitting up the threads? Are they such a looming threat to their declining girls?
>>23762140The reality is that the majority of their streamers stream at westerner-friendly times and basically only Vox panders to lonely chinks lol
there is no actual proof nijiEN uses botsthere's also no proof holoEN has the cull and ccvidits all confirmation bias
>>23760765IS there an update one like this with April added?I'm seeing a pattern this year that i don't really like.Even more mid-low performing members are streaming less, 2 already graduating.
>>23762283never, because they're bored and needed an enemy ever since the Coco saga ended
>>23762283>Expecting Holokeks to stop stroking their inflated egoThey will not stop until we all kneel to their dying whores and praise their numbers to high heaven
>23762358will you look at this samefag
>>23762283All I see is HoloEN's numbers not being as good as before, while NijiEN's numbers are growing slowly but surely. Hmmm I wonder...
>>23762283I haven't even seen any seethe. Even if there is, it's not even noticeable. There's less shitpost in this thread today. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>23761792He already has a Bilibili stream scheduled for today so his Chinese viewers are just waiting for that one instead of watching this one
>>237621813D Niji debut is big favourite. Maybe big collab on Lui channel if somehow that debut completely flops.
Uh oh the samefag schizo is coming back and already larping as both side
3 replies to himself already kek
>>23762283which threads? the only ones that matter are fine?unless you...
>>23762408it's sad that bait posts like this actually work
LIST OF POTENTIALLY VIEWBOTTED/VIEWFARMED STREAMSSUSPECTED VIEWBOTTED STREAMS> 2021-12-22 : Ike Eveland : d-fL-VOmIFA : (1,861 --> 2,724)> 2021-12-24 : Ike Eveland : R8HNXhEAK8A : (1,258 --> 3,862)> 2022-01-10 : Amelia Watson : E8VqyJYCTtc : (1,195 --> 3,488) (Confirmed >>16165322)> 2022-01-11 : Kureiji Ollie : -awpZU5jFWs : (3,307 --> 5,440) (Confirmed >>16235196)> 2022-04-21 : Millie Parfait : kvET5ChSBJM : (1,011 --> 13,012) (Confirmed >>22831703)> 2022-04-25 : Vox Akuma : sKmzW84BVr8 : (19,478 --> 23,322)SUSPECTED VIEWFARMED STREAMS> 2022-04-07 : Koron ch. (Indie) : 68-zH1IVH9g : (10,116 CCV --> 1,671 VOD)> 2022-05-05 : Sara Nagare (Prism) : SU6P3fSEY5Q : (43,710 CCV --> 10,134 VOD)"Confirmed" is for when there is some evidence of the botting being planned, either /here/ or on some other Social media site.Notable points -> First recorded "bot" graph for a VTuber that is tracked by one of the numberfag sites is Ike Eveland (Luxiem) on 22nd December (if there are any that are earlier, let me know).> Ike's streams were botted two times with a two day gap between the streams. Both streams started at the same time.> A similar pattern followed for Amelia and Ollie's stream, but with a one day gap. These two streams also started at the same time.> Despite apparently being "numberfags depressed about CCVID", neither Ollie's nor Amelia's botters posted in /#/ but instead on /hlgg/.> Millie's stream was "confirmed" to have been botted with only for 5k views. The 13k spike came from elsewhere, and conveniently overshadowed the erratic flow of Millie's graph leading up to it (which had a pattern similar to the infamous Chinese worm).> Both Koron and Sara are channels which are not tracked by the majority of the common numberfag sites, and thus do not have a graph.> A lot of Vox's streams have suspicious graphs, but the birthday stream is the only one with an obviously botted spike so far.It's quite an obvious connection that with a Chinese audience also comes the Chinese mentality of "no rules, no morals, just win at any cost".For Chinese fujos, this will involve viewfarms, viewbots, and views across multiple accounts and devices to get their favorite streamer higher numbers.It's also quite obvious that they are /here/ monitoring the only thread that talks about numbers so that they can avoid being found out.They seem to have their own social sites to organize this stuff which are mostly opaque to us. If any anon here knows where they hang out, we could use an insider (try to be subtle).Expect a lot more botted spikes, and viewfarms to get disguised as "natural incline" for certain popular livers in the coming months.
>>23762415Oh so having bilibili stream on the same day as youtube stream might kill their ccv?
Oh, now that Niji is brought up I guess this is the perfect time to remind the thread that Yugo, a niji who’s median peak is less than 2k, got 14k from a karaoke last night and then proceeded to make a followup afterparty stream that peaked at 3kJust let that sink in a bit
reminder that there's people that reply to themselves to shit up the thread(pay attention to 6103 and 6268)
>>23762472we do have a graph for the prism girl, its just not very good. It started 20 mins in the stream. Hers was not the same cheap bot as the abrupt ones of your pic
>>23762496Literally half a day ago in the Uno collab:>Alban ccv go up>Enna and Mika go up at the exact same time>Alban ccv go down>Enna and Mika also go down at the exact same time.>The samefag fujo immediately jump in and deflect with internet problem.
>>23762472>3 of the 8 listed streams are by niji males>muh Chinese fujos?????
>>23762536sometimes they even mess up their samefagging, see >>23734484
>>23762472No one here is that retarded to go that far to fight a band of fujos. That's a waste of time. Vox, their king, already lost the war with the shitty 23k ccv and $44k with 8 hours when other Gura and Mori earned more than that in less hours.
>>23762283false narrative and things that never happened. this is what you decided to do when you woke up today?
Holobros your knee reps for niji gold pls
>>23762702we're up 4-1 already, maybe when you win a month
https://twitter.com/CT_Cocone/status/1522516522211549184https://twitter.com/Kasane_CT/status/1522516621285523457Someone graduated from... somewhere
Did INA/Kiara actually get 17k at 3am just today?
Only 40 mins of processing but what an enormous vod for Zeta. Well to be clear, it’s obviously not on the level of ENs or some JPs but that’s always been because ID viewership is far far lower. But ID3 has really changed the scope of this scene. Kobo is the main attraction but don’t be fooled; Zeta’s vods double Reine’s in views for comparison and it’s shown that a completely separate set of viewers have become fans. And that has a fuck ton of potential to trickle down to the rest of the IDs in ways that aren’t just ccv (which from what I’m aware they’ve inclined in from holofes and id3 anyways)
I'm actually surprised at how little baitbiting is going on today, did people here finally wise up?
>>23762812Burgerbros are sleeping anon
>>23762759Is this Cocotsuki disbanding? Formely on upd8https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Upd8
>>23762826like that has stopped anyone before
>>23758355From globalniggers shitting up /hlg/ since 2020.That's why I'll take every opportunity I get to shit on them and laugh at their pathetic numbers.>>23758110Never leaving cowboy.
>>23762759Upd8 it seems. That's Ai's corp(?)
>>23762759OH NONONONO... SOMETHINGNIGGERS CAN'T STOP LOSING HOLY KEK KEK KEK ... HOW CAN THEY EVEN RECOVER KEK KEK HOLY KEK
>>23762769Yup and the thread got to see one of its strongest evidences of cull yet again. This was the only set of pictures done, but this was actually the -lowest- of the poll results. The entire thread was spamming at the ridiculousness. iirc they hit over 13k votes in 1 min judging Mumei’s outfit.
>>23762838>From globalniggers shitting up /hlg/ since 2020.
>>23762845didn't upd8 die last year?
test
Vpnsanji..
>>23762950twest
>>23762702Nijisis, the stream hasn't even started. Wait for big number and then ask.
kek
>>23762969you no like?
botsanji...
>ZA CULL
>5 minutes
https://youtu.be/7lUBk24fFu0Blue girl #2 is back
>>23762572kek were the three of them sharing the same internet connection in three different countries?
>Every single time
>>23762950>testHOLY COPE!!!Roru RUMAO RMAO EVEN KEK I CAN'T EVEN.TESTNIGGERS EVERYONE!!! KEK LOLGTFO YOU TESTNIGGERS YOUR KINS NOT WELCOMED HERE!
Right on time tooWelpTime to bail
>>23763107We need blue girl #1 to complete the EN blues.
7k waiting for Suzy and Ui
>>23762575> 2 test streams on their potential target> 2 falseflag streams to test + throw off the trail (not clever enough to post on the right thread though)> 1 bot stream that was botted far higher than the claimant to throw off the trail (again).> 1 stream on their target that had a pretty obvious spike when everyone /here/ stopped talking about it.> 2 completely random Indie streams to fine tune testing the big guns.> All incidents within just 6 months of Luxiem debut.You might be lacking pattern recognition.
>>23763107I really liked her on debut but I can't care less about her and I don't know if it's just because this board's whining about her got through to me or if it's because she is actually underwhelming
>>23762812Bait is too stale and not clever enough, boring to even bite.
>>23763042Wasn't this a funnel?
>>23763240its the voice, design and tits. they blinded you from the fact that she's really bland
>>23762969>vpnviewfarming private network?
Niji gold>Niji goldNiji gold>Niji goldNiji gold>Niji gold
>>23763107My rrat is that she got covid, recovered but stayed for the holiday to celebrate Ramadhan and visit her Muslim relatives
Rape 10k
>>23763209>>23763286>>23763042>>23762969please stop talking about NijiEN, literally the same fucking shit everyday there's nothing new to discuss anymore
>>23763340nijiseethe
>>23763330So you're telling me that they just viewbot every single Luxiem male's stream?
>>23763347no, i agree with himwe could ban all niji talk on the way as well
>>23763251Yes and no. It’s not a funnel like you’re thinking of, at least. It was a stream that started after Yugo’s karaoke but 2 things:1. Karaoke stream had already ended like 10-20 minutes before stream even started2. It took another 10 minutes past the stream starting to get your typical, patented Chinese boost. Meanwhile Yugo’s afterparty got absolutely none of that and peaked at 3k (3.2k to be exact)
>>23763340>Please don't talk about it so we can bot in peace
>>23763359nijiseethe
how to report this botting to youtube?
>>23763340hmmmmmmm... I will talk about it on every thread now
>>23763364>>23763347not a nijinigI don't care about niji, I don't watch themstop polluting the thread
ID #fags, I will only watch your chuuba if she could produce a non-gaming gimmick stream taht I would like.
>>23763503you do know there's a ID split right
bros they killed Haruhi..
>>23763491>not a nijinigsure anon, sure
>>23763526not a numbers split, seethe about it
>>23763526nobody cares about your stupid split, this is /#/
19k Uistrongest rapebait
>>23763503>>23763561>>23763564Fuck off with your midget numbers, we're in the big boy hours right now.
>>23763679>we
>>23763679No, seethe about it
TO THE MOON SISTERS
>>23762769>3AM What kind of time zone is this? It was in the afternoon for americans
>>23763698Uhh, how was his last Fnaf stream?
>>23763698MILORD BUFF DORYAAAAA
>>23763240Pretty sure you got baited by anons my dude. Much of the hate people threw around in the past was because she didn’t stream MC/was lazy with schedules, and that got put to rest when:1. That was sparked by anons who had their server IP and stalked every holo member2. People found out her friend died and she needed something to keep her mind off shitPretty much everyone is cool with her now barring some select things like trying too hard with the perfection stuff or shutting down when attention is thrown her way. She’s arguably one of the most important EN holos otherwise because she’s easily clippable and has great deadpan humor
>>23763698ok i give it a benefit of doubt did some one join or something?, funnels?
even if it gets passed later, RAPE GOLD
Kronii's schedule.
>>23763545>bros they killed Haruhi..Wut?
Ui 22kThe stream kinda boring tho, just her getting raped onstream...
>>23763747Vox ended and joined, but I guess this was a raid? 5k in 5 minutes.
Blue woman is an insane buff
>>23763787hot
>>23763768BUFFS except for the pathless. Fuck off with that debuff shit.
>>23763698I don't understand this graph at all.It's very hard to predict how the graph will be unlike normal graphs that Hololive has
Just a reminder that one of the top 5 most popular JP Holos, who is the 2nd most watched Holo and is globally recognized is getting karaoke numbers on par with 2k ccv Nijis!
>>23763790Yt got raid already?
On a regular day this could have been a serious gold candidate
>>23763790dunno if you can call that 5k in 5 minutes looking at that fucking horrible graph
>>23761471why converted nijiid faggot always like this?
>>23763832karaoke is debuff for migo
25k Ui
>>23763787now that ui forced suzy to play without t spinning, it's a bit more even, but she's still getting raped
How does Ui get holo-tier numbers? Even in solo streams.
>>23763834>>23763790yes, but Vox didn't use it. In fact none of the nijis have used it so far. Only time I've seen it so far was from PRISM and when a raid is happening a message will pop up that a raid happened
>>23763790That wouldn’t make sense still. Vox only had 4k by the time his stream ended. Why would him joining a stream give 100%+ turnout? Also it’s looping already lmao
>>23763832holy shit how fucking newkill yourself already
>>23763903Ui is part of the holobox(?). Just me guessing tho
>>23763903She looks like a holo and regularly invites holos to her stream.
>>23763903good streamer, close to the box
>>23763834It was too fast to be considered a funnel, it's either raid or Vox said he'll go to Ike stream so his viewers went to Ike. >>23763830FNAF is like Apex, if you die, you lose viewers. The middle to end graph for him looks kinda normal, but he still got the worm so he was boosted by viewfarms for 2.5k. Honestly, for worm like graphs, you can easily see how much they get boosted. 500/1k/1.5/2k. It's easy to spot if it's a normal stream, but there's also cases where we can;t see it in big streams for nijis like this one. Those bots can easily blend with normal tourists making the numbers big.
29k Uiare we gonna get Ui lewds today?
>>23763903Honorary holo. Not meming
>>23763954If a raid was happening there would have been a small notification on the raidee's chat
>>23763975nah, there's a nijijp male 3d debut today iirc
>>23763787why would anyone think they can defeat Suisei in Tetris?
Botted stream?????
>>23763698kek my sides that is shameless
Lol, Astel's team came across these three in rank
>>23764029why are nijichinks like this?
Ui 30k easy rape
>>23763908it wouldn't make since vox ended an hour before the peak. vox ended 19:12 and the peak started at 20:12
>>23763790vox had already ended a whole hour ago
>>237636986000 Chinese workers finished their shift at a sweatshop and watch Ike's stream to relax. nothing unusual.
>>23764073I need Suzy rapes Ui doujins
>>23763954 (me)Mind you, Luis Cummy has a normal debut graph. Hayase is worse than her but she still get better numbers. There's also that other girl where yashiro was there with her. Niji started boosting in April.
>>23763839should of been on suisei's
>>23764078>>23764083Oh, I see. I thought he ended during Ike. So, I guess the usual chink boosting, huh?
>>23763429like any normal report and maybe showing the bug graph on yt's twitter?
>>23764150yeah, they switched to tetris 99 and you can't see suzy's gameplay like in puyo puyo tetris
HOW DO WE SAVE HIKAKIN, LADS!?
Lui, stop it. Not today, you're up against you know who.
>>23764205>sponsored stream
>>23764205debut hikakin gen3
>>23764222Ui beat Suichan, she can beat anyone.
>>23764222>>23764254Ui vs Lui
# is a joke now that anycolor start boosting their livers>1k boost for 1 hourMust cost like $50
>>23764205this 2view gets to fuck okayu?!
>>23764222Niji gold status?
>>23764288 (me)And they're only doing it to streams that matters
>>23764222This will be a multiPOV, it seems
>>23764369Team captain pov
Ui 32kRape
>>2376440740 pounds box of rapehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z7SafOiCXM
>>23764153View farming/vpnish/w/e it is, it's obvious something fucky is going on. I don't think it's bots, straight bots have been shown to get blammed by YouTube with what happened with Sara the other day, and it'd be obvious if NijiEN was losing massive amounts of VOD views off of every stream. It's just an annoying amount of female zhangs, and the reason it's also showing up on other Niji streams now is probably the demographics shared between streams causing YT to flag shit. Again. Like they did with CCVID. It doesn't make sense for this many stores to be botted/viewfarmed, but getting flagged for similar demographics does.
>>23764150should have*
>>23764491I don't think it's flagging, it might be brand boosting, someone realized after they saw Luxiem and decided to do the same for every eventAfter the IPO and their move to B2 everything is possible
>>23764491They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>23764491Viewfarms are still just another way of botting, anon, it just has a monkey supervising every group of them
>>23764491NijiEN boys does have pretty horrid Vod views compared to holoEN though even with comparable CCV.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUv0IL2xqNSISlm3djNtX_ETdZamSP2WkSasuga chinksanji
>>23764491It's a view-farm (Short term: Boost). It's unlikely it's a huge number of fujos watching when the common parts are the weird 1-2k incline after the 10 min mark. You'd expect like 450 or 775 for 5 or10 minutes, but it literally inclines up to 1.5k from the previous peak then continues on to the normal growth. Also, it has an abnormally fast growth to pass waiting room numbers in 1-2 minutes.
>>23764491only started in april. right before the IPO annoucementwe already saw the fujo horde in feb and march. during and after CCVID. it doesn't look the same.
Kaida 20k waiting
>>23764650it doesn't even have to be a farm, the big majority of their fanbase is from extremist fujos that can realistically setup at least 4 devices
>>23764667HoloEN is vod botted
I don't think the worm would be present in Mysta or Alban's stream if all of them moved to Kaida's. It might be minimal just a 500-1k boost or nothing. Prove me wrong please, anycolor.
>>23764672SUGOI
>>23764737This. I already said something similar earlier today, when the Uno collab happened. There might be a small group of fujos viewfarming on purpose, they all do it during event stream, but only some of them viewfarming during normal stream.
>>23764672Kek, guess that confirms he doesn't approve it, it didn't say "copyrighted" before
>>23764672>>23764792What is this about?
Opening to 50k, this will *easily* beat 100k, maybe 150k?
Kaida 50k, all of ROF-MAO is here
>>23764833Luca using Okayu and Towa's custom BGM
Towa just posted that in spite of thumbnail not everyone will be attending the team stream.Betting odds of ghosting the appearanceAyame - 1:1Mel - 15:1Luna - 20:1Kanata - 50:1Laplus - 250:1Towa - 666:1
>>23764835will this beat Marines live?
>>23764840100k guaranteed
>>23764835200k easy. Time to kneel Holokeks
>>23764833Nijiniggers stealing shit and getting caught again
>>23764867I would put 100 bucks in these Mel odds, too lopsided and a good return for the investment.Doing so on Ayame would be a good way to cash in on those "50 dollars free" that bet sites give with the caveat you can only cash that on winnings
>>23764897It'll beat moris live for sure
>>23763903actually good streamer + minor Ayame buff + honorary holo (she almost always appears in recommendations when watching holo streams).
Kaida stream is about to worm, watch it
>>23764906Anon, if this beats 205k it would go from>holokeks kneelingto>nijisanji under intense scrutiny for botting
NijiEN cocks spamming horror games today.What the fuck?New strategy?
>>23764808my sister did the same 5 years ago for Justin Bieber when he released stuff on YT, she even asked for the phone of others to do itrealistically she had>her phone>her PC>tablet>my phone>my mom's and dad's phone>the "family" computerthat counts as 7 different users in the end and they are "legitimate users" because they all have a different "history playlist"
>>23764948If the graph looks normal then I will kneel
>>23764937Hard to catch the worm when there's real tourists mixed in unless they decided to put 20k in. That would be stupid of them, smart if they only put 2k every 5 minutes.
>>23764937kek, dropped 5k without touching 60k
>>23764598>>23764650>>23764707>>23764694Holy autism
>>23764840>open steam >it’s just 2D ArsThe fuck? Are Niji 3Ds just opportunities to shill the whole company?
>>23764707pretty obvious it started in December with Ike
>>23764984wrong thread
>>23764954horror game + overreacting => numbersA known fact since the early days of let's playing
HOLY SHIT!
i swear it's an internet/yt issue
>>23764959My sister unironically do it too, but with K pop MV. Also just a note that you can use multiple web browser on one device to viewfarm and the chance for it to work is really high.
WHAT THE FUCK ACTUALLY
>>23765026>>23765011nijifags will say this is not bots
>>23764742I'm curious, isn't this actually possible?
>>23765011KEKSasuga anykara
>>23765011Bots wake up
>>23765011This is not a worm, that's for sure
Uhh bros, what do you call this type of graph?
>>23765011What the fuck did the stream die or something?
>>23765011it’s probably because he started showing the other nijisanji members during it. im watching it rn and i was about to click off too
>>23765011>>23765026>>23765055Watch as it incline at the 10 min mark
>>23765011the graph kneelingkek
Totally legit guys
What the fuck is even going on anymoreAnd if you faggots tell me Kaida's 3D debut needs bots to hit 50k I will retardslap.png you
HOLY KEK BOTSANJI IS REAL. NOW WAIT IT'LL GO UP AGAIN IN NO TIME
>>23765011Do you think they can ask for a money return to the bot providers?
this is not looking good nijibros, it looks like Susan is giving you a warning rumao
>>23765057Bots getting culled.
>>23765047not sure. there are services that offer it but yt does remove vod views sometime. not as aggressive as what we saw with sara.
>>23765072>40k droppedDYRB? It's studio internet too. That would be stupid if there's any internet problems on the big day. I closed off at amamiya too, but not others.
>>23765057the camel
PREDICTIONS?
So this is Riku end goal. Using fucking bots to boost their talents's value
It's a snail now
>>237651548k
>>23765133if it was internet it would have recovered by now
OHHHHHH THE 10 MINUTESSSS FROM 9:02 TO 9:12ANYCOLOR YOU MANIACS
>>23765055So is it about time we switched away from Peak CCV, it is obviously fucked at the moment for both JP and EN.
>>237651547 to 8k, just like feeding frenzy 2
>>23765057Susan flagging and culling viewers in real time
>>23765075>the graph kneeling>kekTOP KEK
i can believe internet drop. but that recovery doesn't look right
>>23765154EZ 10k
>>23765154>Popcap Magnum Opus10K at best
what the hell just happened?? was there a problem at the live?
they turned the bots on again
>>23765192HOLY KEK
finally, it turned back on again
>>23764835meds
>>23761811>zhang and bilibili's community are more toxic than hiroshima after the nukenijiEN thinks its a good idea pander to them
BOTSANJI
>>23765180FUCKING 10 MINUTES INTERVAL. WORKING WITH CHINKS FOR SO LONG FINALLY MINDBREAK ACCELLERATOR
There's no way Kaida 3D would need to get botted to 50k, I have no idea what the fuck happened there
Rrat: Nijisanji has always been tourist central with even shitters getting good numbers on main channel and on 3D debuts. Ridiculous numbers really compared to their regular streams. We always just assumed that JP niji fan behavior was just fundamentally different somehow. But what if they have been boosting views for ages, it only for big events on the main channel/3D? If that were the case and Susan finally catches on, you would expect big Niji events to abruptly have mysteriously poor ccv or at least irregular ccv. Not saying that’s the case. But food for thought
> 5 min gap
>>23765222Anon, that would be the first time I ever saw a stream with 50k in 2 minutes not breaking 100k and if it happens I'll likely go back to scrape vrabi and vstats historical record to prove it
SHUT THE FUCK UP CHINK SUBHUMAN SAMEFAG THERE IS NO INTERNET PROBLEM
>>23765248Conspiracys getting more and more insane to keep holding on to the botcope
Can someone quote me when Ike ends?
>>23765275So you mean to tell me kaida 3D would only have 20k real people watching? Come the fuck on
>>23765261>to prove that with bots anyone can get 100k sure anon I agree with that
starto
https://youtu.be/fetc0Exwa8Mmy husband is performing! go watch instead of being a faggot!
Kaida does not need fucking bots to reach 50k on his 3D debut you fucking moronsMy current working theory is that ENshitters actually botting has flagged a bunch of JP tourists who checked them out and is spreading like CCVID
>>23765261Don't use holo streams as justificiation for that though. They are fucked and take an half an hour to verify that many people
So what is this? VPN again? Why do JP tourists need a VPN?
>>23765316kys subhuman
rollercoaster ride part 2
>>23765303If it was a short internet problem, it would dip hard then spike up again, not stall for a few minutes. If it was on YT's end, then the other streams would've had a problem too.
The subhuman deflection time starto
>>23765349THE NIPPLES ARE FORMING
>Started dropping again at 10 minutes markAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSeriously?
>>23765349solitary worm
Fuwa's on and it's dropping, this is a fucking joke
>>23765336
I WANT OFF MR HARU WILD RIDE
>>23765323Sure anon, he gets 10ks all time after all
>>23765369something expected from nijibots
>>237653492-humped camel
>>23765323There are no bots. There never were.
>>23765353I didn't say it was an internet problem, I'm just saying it's not bots, because that makes no sense. I just have no idea what it is
>>23765349I GUESS IN THE END WE TRULY WERE NIJINIPPLES
>>23765411maybe they always were
>>23765349so is it a nipple ? or is it a rollercoaster ride ?
what the fuck is this bullshit?
>>23765323>>23765411>>23765418sad cope
>>23765411Ba sing se is not at war
The prism snake's stream has stabilized at 10k after the initial 90k so if you wanna know if a stream is botted or not just wait for a day
>>23765430IPO tomfoolery pls andastand
>>23765401Yeah regular streams are totally comparable to 3D debuts
>>23762759Damn... a lot of the old guards are graduating.
Are you winning #?
>>23765418Its because in the middle of his 3D debut he started showing other NijiJP members.
Koronesuki... HOLY SHIT THE RRAT
it's dropping again???
Is this /biz/ pink wojak time now?>didn't beat 60k in this run either
from the team practice stream, apparently marine's throat is fucked again, did we know this, i didn't watch the haruhi streamholojp getting dangerously close to have 2 or the top tiers fucked forever
>>23765462I see my pics here
>>23765462translate it weebs
>>23765462>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD ON THE MOST INFLUENTIAL BOARD
>>23765462>MOST>INFLUENTIAL>THREAD
>>23763319koreans aren't muslims, are they?
>>23765469senno senno...
>>23765462we're inclining...
>>23765467That makes no sense either, why the fuck would he drop 30k in a minute because of that
>>23765489she's been struggling. it's on and off. she really need to get that surgery done.
>>23765489no she's fine, she's just resting right now because recovering from covid and shit
>>23765514Anon...
>>23765514arent koreans mostly christian / catholic ?
HAHAHAHAHAHA THE FUCKING WORM, NIJICHINKS ARE TRULY SHAMELESS
>>23765462MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
>but wait, there's more
are we finally going to break 60k
>CHINKSANJI>NIJIZHANGJI>BOTSANJI>VIEWFARMSANJIPick any nickname and it would still be true
Anon-tachis... the 10 minutes...
65k get
>>2376557966k right now
>>23765589nipplesanji doko ?
>>23765589Nijichinks too
>>23765527Because if people come to see Harus 3D debut and they see other members instead, why would they stay?
Maybe this is just some youtube shenanigans that are affecting Nijisanji first. It will happen to other agencies like VSPO and Holo0live soon too. This was the case with CCVID. Just screeching "BOTS!!" doesn't offer anything to discuss since it is a show of bad faith.
>>23765611Look at that nice pair of boobs
>>23765589Holocope
>>23765489God damn, it's STILL fucked up? I think we're entering Month 11 of throat issues for her.
>>23765628HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>23765630youcoped.png
>>23765628Anon I don't think this is bots and even I would call this cope
>Abnormal graphSorry nipplekeks, I won't kneel
Can we be rational for a second? How do we know it's not just youtube fucking shit up again?
>>23765630rumao
>>23764974>>23764981>>23764937APOLOGIZE
>>23765630>youtube shenanigans>affecting Nijisanji Tell me what did niji do to get the worm before I call you a retard
>>23765630yeah, if YouTube can detect the bots and kill the CCV like that it would be extremely obviously in the VOD view
>>23765630
>>23765646she really needs to just to get the surgery, it might change her voice like it did to aki, but what else is she gonna do, just be stuck in this cycle of being fucked constantly
While Niji is botting Subaru reached 35k on a dual pov stream with a beautifull graph.
>>23765668Never was before, shillchama.
>>23765668It only affects 1 company
>>23765630holy cope
>>23765638
>>23765630chink sisters, how did it happen to us?
>>23765630fresh
>>23765613During the duet with Honhima too.Btw, I was also thinking this looks more like a Holo stage then usual Ninji concert.Hima called it out that it looks like he's an idol, which scared Haru shitless.
>>23765668>Happens every Niji event stream but not on their normal streamGuys it's totally youtube fucking it up, nothing else can explain it.
>>23765630Yes everyone knows its new CCVID. This is just shitposting.
>>23765699Nijiroaches will never
>>23765668if it happens to a Holo stream you're free to point it out, it's funny how it only happens on Niji streams isn't it?
>>23765668I need to see it on others then
>>23765699Wait, they can play online pvp in taiko?
>>23765736>not on their normal streamBut it does?
>>23765630Fresh off the presses
>>23765736>>Happens every Niji event streamnot true
>>23765736You literally have 3 examples of it happening in a normal non-event nijistream in this very thread. One of which has under 4k CCV. Are all bronies retarded?
>>23765630Tits or gtfo
Very specific to males too. This is someone in Anykara management for sure
Why can't nijis get graphs like these?
>>23765668name of streamer outside of nijisanji where that happensbotted sana from prism
>>23765630It's obviously this but unlike back in January when we could put aside our differences to work out wtf is going on this place got overtaken by the tribalfags who are retarded enough to think an upper-mid tier Niji male actually has 24k watching his 3D debut an the rest are bots
>YouTube cull HoloEN>Cope, Holorecline,VOD cope>Nijichink clearly using bot/viewfarm>NO it's YouTube fucking with only NijisanjiHolyshit /jp/ Nijiniggers are even worst than subhuman
>>23765462did they get suspicious or something?
>>23765668only Nijisanji has the worm graphs so far.Multiple indies and 2views were affected during CCVID.
>>23765730dunno much about the dude's content but from a brief survey of his videos, doesn't he seem to sing a lot? I guess a stage that looks like that would make sense
Japanese wouldn't use bots. They honour honesty. That's what only chinese do.
If it's bots then why do their VODs view numbers werent gone down like this >>23765686muh graph can't be the evidence
>>23765835Anycolor...
>>23765814>the /jp/ boogeyman
>>23765814You have this exactly backwards. This thread has been calling bots on very obvious CCVID for a month now.
>>23765784That'd require them to not use Bots. Which is obviously not gonna happen anytime before they start selling their stock
>>23765809I would agree with you two weeks ago but today I'm very puzzled to find an explanation.CCVID didn't even start with Holos, it started with the FPS crowd (VSPO, Hal and even Kuzuha was getting subpar numbers mid December) and it was much more widespread than this
>>23765835Anycolor isn't Japanese anymore, it's Chinese.
>>23765842have you seen the karaoke vods? their numbers are pathetic
>>23765784Bots are killing nijsanji
>>23765858Its only just started effecting NijiMales. Its spread of NijiEN -> NijiMales. I wouldn't be surprised if NijiFemales were next.
advanced worming. aka mr. kaida's wild ride
>>23765866yes Chinese play dirty and cheat on any opportunity they get
>>23765842Because theres a million bot services dumb ass. Or maybe because that was too blatant and Youtube saw a 4500% increase in views and went 'nope" but nijis aren't exactly 2views.
>>23765871I meant NijiJP 3d events, they're all have normal vod views
Could you all just call the obvious worm graph, a boost instead since it's obvious those are all viewfarms. Why are you all saying it's bot? The best example of a botted stream is millie/ike/ame or any sudden spike.
>>23765529>>23765691When are you surgeryfags going to actually watch marine before spouting this shit again.She has said on stream that even if the nodules heal up, they would come right back because the problem is her normal speaking style that she has used her whole life.So until her visits to the 2 voice trainers start to show results, surgery is the dumbest thing to even consider.
>>23765842>non botted streams>archived>streams with 10x their avg viewership>unarchivedhuh, I do wonder
>>23765910no one actually thinks NijiJP are using bots
>>23765891NijiEN females have it while they act as hosts for nijmales.
>>23765809Nijjers(and HoloEN fags) were declaring the death of HoloJP when CCVID started. It took them weeks for the scales to fall from their eyes.
>>23765918Okay. Nijisanji is using viewfarms. Better?
>>23765903But it only happens on event streams!! If it was susan it would happen on regular streams too!
>>23765903You forgot to put the third incline. Anyways, Why would anycolor play dirty for this.. I feel sad for the talents themselves.
>>23765842its not bots, its viewfarms that you're paying for, auntie
Why won't Riku get the "Premium Ultra Deluxe Viewfarms" instead of whatever cheap obvious looking shit they have right now
>>23765909both Snake and Millie streams were corrected by YouTube latterSo it's obvious that YouTube can detect bots, name 1 service that yt can't detect
damn, they actually could have gotten gold if this wasn't multi pov
>>23765943Then what the fuck happened there for kaida to drop 30k viewers suddenly? I don't think it's bots either, but I'm absolutely puzzled.
>>23765809back in January nijiniggers were calling it cope and holo reclining until the NijiJPs and then Indies started getting affected by it mate.
>>23765955>it only happens on event streamsno it doesn't it happens every stream
>>23765903just a coincidence, sethe
>>23765994Literally Susan. The two peaks were the same- there was no real drop in viewers
> Snake chart?< Snake chart!
>>23765939there are a bunch of niji 3d debut vods with 50k+ CCV out thereFeel free to check them
Looks like Shoto is about to actually stream on his YouTube channel in a few days.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V6g4SOQbLc
Someone put an eye on Kaida VODs. This is atleast 65k stream, so the VOD would be something over 500k after a day, right ??? RIGHT ???
Here is a regular NijiJP male graph from today for comparision. It only happens to JP events
>>23765985dunno, highest combined so far is 64k
>>23765918i guess its just because the difference between bots and viewfarms falls on a technicality of how they operate
>>23766004Yes that was the point. Which is why its obviously not bots. Because people aren't botting 1.5k streams regardless of what /#/ needs to cope.
>>23766004Anon...
>>23765994Could be crashes from the framerate and Youtube shadowbans.
>>23766034no one gives a shit. He's gonna go luxiem route and reap SCs along with leeching of nijiENs
>>23765821Maybe
>>23766004*Happens every NijiCN stream and the JP events.
>>23765953Yes. The IPO must have fucked someone's shit up and they want to cash out soon. In 6 months the stocks won't be worth the paper they're printed on and Anycolor would rely mostly on e-panhandling to keep the lights on.
>>23766077grass
>>23765969why would you spend 100k if you can do it for 10k
>>23766088>every JP eventswhy are you lying?
>>23766077>chinese vpnroru
>>23766050Chinman Minecraft was getting wormed the other day too, and that wasn't an event
>>23765589put nijiseethe too >>23765639
>>23765984>So it's obvious that YouTube can detect bots, name 1 service that yt can't detectHow the fuck would I know? Stop being a moron.
>>23765929then she should just take a 3 month fucking break and get that shit fixed unless she wants to end up a mute
>>23766050
why are the nijisisters so defensive today?
This doesn't make any sense. I refuse to say that the peculiar curve is due to bots since this is a NijiJP male 3d debut (why bot something that is proven to be successful numberwise?), but at the same time, the pattern is just too suspicious. NGL though this concert is pretty nice. The dude has a great voice.
>>23766088with nijimales you mean
>>23766137>Vampire survivorsBad example
>>23766126Copium after HoloENs decline is so strong...
The cope about this type of graph being VPNs no longer makes sense, chinks aren't watching JP niji events en masse.
>>23766077>vpncopezhang are /there/ too
>>23766137Anno, this is Vampire Survivors, I don't know exactly what you are trying to show other than a regular Vampire Survivors chart (which works similar to APEX and other games with build up and drop after death)
>>23766137regular VS gameplay
>>23766129how the fuck do you know it's bots then?literally every botted streams we know got corrected
>>23766146The retarded suits probably wanted to be EXTRA sure it wouldn't slip.
>>23766160
are there any benefits to botting a nijijp stream? fujos wouldn't, they only care about Luxiem, so who would?
>>23765589also put nijicope >>23766168
>>23766171The cope about bots makes no sense either if they aren't watching.
ONLY 1 FUCKING ANSWER: Nijisanji is going IPO, so they contact a "trusty B2 affiliate" company to Viewfarm the shit out of their talents's stream and boost their value.
>Susan doing the same jewish tricks with Pajeet certified "programmers">OMG these dumb looking graphs have to be view farms!I won't believe until someone's channel gets roped. Until then I won't trust the same people who flag users as bots but none users as viewers.
>>23766078He's only uploaded shorts and some videos on that channel before, he hasn't streamed there yet.I wonder how many live viewers a shorts channel like that could actually get.
>>23766187Anon, the core of your argument is>if you can't prove it is with 100% evidence then it is confirmed for not beingPeople are posting various theories for it: VPN, bots, view farms, youtube fuckups. It won't be possible to prove but the one thing that is 100% confirmed is that this pattern is not normal
Let's say it's not bots. How do you explain the worm graphs?>it only happens to 1 company (Nijisanji). Other companies don't get worm charts>it happens mostly to nijiEN male streams and some big event streams>VOD views are always lower than the other vtuber streams with similar ccvCCV affected vtubers in general, from Hal, to Hololive and Nijisanji. This wormvid only affects 1 company
>>23766204riku needs to pump the numbers up for the IPO
Botted or not, I thought he would be much closer to 100k considering its golden week in addition to 3D debut which is usually huge for Nijimales.
>>23766213Saddest holocope I've ever seen.
>>23765929I find the ‘normal voice destroy throat desk’ to be bullshit, she needs to drop whatever she is doing to force her voice higher or with more impact if it’s doing this much damage when she streamed half as much as the likes of Miko, Watame and Flare.
>>23766187Nijisisters, no one KNOWs shit. We're speculating, and this very much looks like boosted streams. Maybe you can be a good girl and tell us, since your kind knows more about view farms or bots.
>talk of IPO>suddenly viewfarms and bots everywhere on nijitotally a coincidence guys
>>23766204Jesus Christ, every oldfag know Niji big event streams got big numbers. Koishen got 100k+, were they botted too?
when does the anycolor IPO officially happen?
>>23766204Nijisanji.
>>23766231That too, if this was truly bots they would have gone for more than just 60k
>>23766264Holocope says everyone who gets better numbers than them must be botted
>>23766228>it happens mostly to nijiEN male streamsNot anymore it doesn't, even Enna and Reimu were getting hit by it yesterday>B-BUT THEY HAD MALESBut it wasn't their channel
>>23766195>gold count lives rent free in execs headI would well up with pride that it isn't just schizos treating CCV like sports.
>Go IPO in April>All stream suddenly get weird BOOST graphyou just can't make this shit up
>>23766243Maybe she's been forcing her voice way before becoming a streamer and know this is her "normal voice" because she's used to speak like that and can`t speak normally
>>23766272>>23766140oh my god you've got to see how nijiniggers cope in the wild, this is ridiculous
>>23766231Same. Probably the many ROFMAO 3D shorts killed a bit of the hype? Since you could see how his model is already. Not that 60k+ is bad but when you put the GW context it should be higher.
>>23766136Death is a preferable alternative to not working.Best you'll get is a month of no streaming but still doing work irl or a few weeks of no stream and no irl work which comes with the cost of a massive drop in mental health.
>>23766146The weirdest part is the timing, NijiJP never had these sort of streams until they went public.
>now to samefagmake it lest obvious sister
>>23766301>But it wasn't their channelWouldn't that prove that whatever causes it is following NijiEN males and/or their audience?
>>23766201What the fuck is that?! Please tell me it was an internet issue. Kagami is too fucking dignified for that! Shachou isn't a a Chinese dicksucker unlike those faggots in NijiEn
>>23766228if it's botted then explain big Niji event streams from 2019 to 2020 or are you saying they're botted as well
>>23766231Him being on 3D all the time on ROFMAO stuff was probably a debuff