/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>23678982
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

PRISM GOLD

All this bot nonsense is orchestrated by sara antis, cope & seethe, your oshi will never net 45k from scratch

hey rannianon came back

That was fun and interesting. I always love weird number happenings.

>>23679007
Ranni sex
Mio sex

>45k peak
>5.9k likes
>1.3+ votes
How do you explain this oddity /#/bro?

The horse race feels fucking irrelevant since the bots arrived. Enjoy your doped race.

Mio at 40k we might still see the bot stream slip which is fucking hilarious to me

>>23679038
YT wont do shit anyway so she will be fine

what the hell happened though? that small zigzag that happened, but mio hit 40k with kanata, meru and lacunny yet
thank you for that 40k chama

niji jp will save the day from prism domination

This is now the VOD with the highest views out of all her VODs other than her debut.

>>23679115
Not everyone who watches a stream interacts with it. Stop being a conspiracy theorist.

>>23679144
its nothingburger

>>23679178
Designated Sony shill?

stream is dropping because mel has her stream going too..........

>>23679190
post the pic

>>23679115
dead viewers

doesn't sony already have stakes in nijisanji?

mio...keep mel till the end at least...

>>23679115
>>23679191
Weird that you people don't have such a strong desire to "investigate anomalies" when it's a Holo getting suspicious numbers. Gee, I wonder why.

>>23679178
Hi Sony intern, next time make the bots more discreete.

LMAO look at Mel's chart

so uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh where do they get their bots?

>PRISM GOLD
PRISM GOLD
>PRISM GOLD
PRISM GOLD
>PRISM GOLD
PRISM GOLD

>>23679241

>>23679241
>3 view chuuba suddenly gets 40k+ watching her stream
>but holo that gets suspicious numbers
wow...

>>23679258
meru....

>>23679241
>a Holo getting suspicious numbers
You're right, let's complain to Youtube about their low numbers. They're more sus than your bots.

interesting that of the 200 people got carried over 75 of them still remained

>>23679275
Sony paid YT's pajeets for the glitch

>>23679241
Name one time that a Holo has gotten suspicious numbers - a specific time with a screenshot of their graph preferably.

Mel made the stream dropp below 40k
Prism Gold that is!

>>23679248
>>23679284
>>23679292
>>23679313
>>23679331
Just face it. This thread claims to be about celebrating high numbers, but in reality you're tribalists for Holo and melt down any time a non-Holo gets good numbers. It'd be pathetic if it wasn't also so sad.

I wonder what happened beforehand though, suddenly flat then shot up 1k

>>23679067
... is that meant to be かふかふ

>>23679343
>doubts the power of cunny

>>23679157
The question is: Does this mean that she had 5k actual viewers, and only 1,5k answered the poll?

PRISM GOLD!
>PRISM GOLD!
PRISM GOLD!
>PRISM GOLD!

>>23679241
False. We talk about cull all the time.

>>23679331
>>23679292
>>23679313
>>23679369

>>23679322
So about 30% or so retention? Looks good. I see more corpos and indies wanting to use this.

>>23679369
who the fuck are you and why are you this retarded

>Prism Project getting gold
just how much hololive has reclined?

this will peak at 43,000, SC this

>23679369

Ok so no example, in that case please commit die for the sake of the quality of these threads

>>23679371
no that's りむりむ

Not even 10 minutes into the thread and it's already ruined because of the same fucking falseflagging/nijinigger that spends his pathetic life here.
Holy fuck dude, touch some grass or jerk off but stop ruining the thread

>>23679371
Ye

Come on man, why do have to shit up the thread on top of this shit, you're making it way too obvious that you understand but just trying to rile people up

going up to 40k again, GO MERU

>>23679449
Its literally him, he speaks the exact same way about niji too. What a fucking retard.

>>23679486
they are coming back after going to check on Mel, you can see it in Mel's graph

>>23679369
newfag fuckoff

>>23679115
definitely not bots testing, I swear!

>>23679449
funny that he/she dissapears whenever genshin impact has an event

>>23679524
nah it's the fucking CUNTS who tab out and tab in again for some reason, FUCK THE FAGS WHO TAB OUT, JUST OPEN ANOTHER WINDOW

>>23679449
I swear that fucker is in every thread that not even related to holo

Bots/viewfarms will not redirect because they are sold to artificially increase one channel's view. If they allowed redirecting they'd lose money as nothing would stop the buyer from foxtroting many channels for the price of one.

Unintentionally Susan found a new way to cull bots.

I for one would be entertained as fuck if a donkey with a rocket launcher on its back won the Kentucky Derby so this is fine

>>23679391
What? No it doesn't.

Why are you retards replying to obvious bait?

>Sony M
>Anykara
>Bili2
Why are this corpos trying underhanded tricks to beat my wholesome Hololive family with the the force of money? Why can't Sony M or Bili2 just bought Cover years ago instead of propping competitors up because they can't beat Hololive after a year. It's all tiresome.

LACUNNY HERPU
sadly mel didn't give us a new peak like haachama did but it's pretty hard in numbers that high, finish it off cunny

>Laplus not last
M-MIO, THE GOLD...!

42K now
What was the exact peak number for that stream?

You guys are botting AGAIN? You should have learned your lesson the first time, maybe this time it should be a week.

>>23679689
Wanna bet Yagoo didn't want to sell because tech autism and they didn't press because they thought it wasn't that important then/they could buy it later on since they're giants?

>>23679732
if we're going by sites, it's 43k and some change
if we're going by visual proof it's 45k

>>23679607
You are assumign that whoever sells bots/viewfarms has already patched that away day 1 of susan launching her raid feature. I really doubt it.

>>23679689
>wholesome
As if we needed any more proof that Hololive is Reddit...

>>23679732
43,710 per live ranking

>>23679732
43,710 on liveranking

>>23679785
Yeah it was 45k

My dick goes adamantium when Mion said "erai"

Mio 43k.
Oh no no sonybros...

>>23679732
it got up to 45k but live ranking has 43710

>>23679785
>>23679826
>>23679836
>>23679849
>>23679883
Another Gold debate in the making if Mio doesn't get atleast 46K

>>23679369
So what you're saying is you've never actually been in a Sara stream. Got it.

>>23679785
>>23679849
tally precedence for visual proof is multiple different screenshots, did anyone take any? less anyone could claim and samefag they saw 50k+ ccv and no one would be the wiser.

>>23679911
It's not a fucking debate. It's clearly a bug or botted.

>>23679934
there are some threads on the catalog

>HAG GOLD
HAG GOLD
>HAG GOLD
HAG GOLD
>HAG GOLD
HAG GOLD
>HAG GOLD
HAG GOLD

>>23679934
I personally saw 60k peak

Mio gold
It's for the best

Mio passed the live ranking peak btw, i'd rather we just take it and ignore the obvious bug/botted shit

>>23679943
mio 44k can Kanata bring it to 45-46k?

>>23679911
>vod not even close to make up for the ccv
>poll clearly dead with participation
>raid the 'viewers' didn't work
yeah that stream was total legit

And Mio has passed the recorded peak, we can call the crises averted

Our CCV numbers is fake now... How do I cope with this?

Barely 44K

>>23679934
45k shot with poll

>>23679934
there were a few last thread and in catalog

time to unleash my mion lewd collection

>>23680022
come on man, it's not like it's hard to tell when something is obviously fake

POV you are a hololive viewer

>>23679934
>tally precedence
you're confusing them with coco's graduation peak for yearly/monthly highest peak summaries.
daily gold tallies only ever get peaks recorded from trusted trackers

>phoneposters
be less obvious lmao

Why are you arguing over the peak of a clearly botted stream?

>>23679934
No it needs to be on one of the usual sites, screenshots are easy to fake
Besides who's going to go schizo for a botted 2view like that one retard who really wanted Niji to have 0 golds in April?

>>23680035
ok this is getting ludicrous

So who botted it? You niggers better not get banned again.

>>23680106
ah yeah, you're right
my bad, got things mixed up

did anyone hear her say that the views might be coming from an embedded player on a different site? is that why Nia didn't get those viewers when she got raied?
something to think about.

Sorry Sara, golds are for grownups

>>23680138
because a couple of schizos are clearly just trying to rile people up for (you)s, like come on man, you're gonna tell me that you can't see how obvious it was that it's either a visual bug or bots, it's clearly just baiting people to make them explain it over and over cause they're starved for attention

>>23680166
sony most likely, or chink fujos testing different services

>>23680199
Youtube doesn’t count embedded views

>>23680223
>>23680035
?

looking at playboard she was at around 86 viewers before spiking to 8k in the next 10 mins

>>23680199
Embeded views don't count, she doesn't know that but we autists do

what about the paralympic gold though?

>>23680252
If it is Sony how much of a happening would it be? Surely they'd be persona non grata in the JP community.

>>23680199
embeds don't count as viewers, for example, watching streams through holodex won't count you as a viewer

>>23680278
not enough resolution on this graph to see if there's any worm action

>>23679843
Cunny come back!
We need that 100k CCV return stream mao TToTT!

>>23680278
58 i meant, my bad

>>23680245
its still recorded peak anon, regardless of it was botted or not. we're already tracking NijiEN and Gura's streams, both of which have some level of suspicion of botting.

>>23680285
hagbros... why is mio a child ?

>>23680080
POV : you are voxxsister

>>23680282
embed views count but only if the user plays it, auto plays dont count.

>>23680339
(you)

>>23680339
>gura stream
>botting

>>23680339
>and Gura's streams
I know what anon are you now, stop being stupid

>23680339
If someone gives a (you) to this nigger I swear I'll rip your guts off

>>23680339
Since when is Gura of all people suspected of botting? Is this a follow up to people coping about NijiEN karaoke numbers or what?

>>23680309
i think it's been shown to be false with holodex. it does count as long as you are tabbed in. multiview will only give view to the first stream that you start. not sure about embed with autoplay

>>23679689
Now that I think about it, it's hard to create a group of influencers focusing on shilling different merch or games for advertisers. You can't create a group of nobodies since they have to build their audience from the ground up and you can't a group of top influencers and streamers since they all would have conflicting ideologies and egos that it's hard for a manager to tard wrangle them. Most important of all, as a manager, you can't keep the image of the brand in place if your group is given free reign on their content. One retard is bound to sully the image with racism and political shit that it's hard for the manager to find a brand deal/sponsorship for them.

Hololive is literally the ideal group of streamers any corpo would want to have their items shilled. Backed by a company with clean ideals and visions on top of individual managers to keep them from going retard. Hololive members has clout no influencers in Japan could get. They're "celebrities" in the anime community. It's hard to think them as otherwise. Nijisanji is a close second, but they're operating on purely profits if rrats goes by that their talents aren't paid a salary.

>>23680386
too late...

>>23680386
You have 3 faggots that are in need of correction, have at it.

it's the same schizo that was trying to prove the spiking in ENs charts were bots lmaooooo

>>23680278
looks like the chinese form, wish playboard had better tracking

>>23680353
>>23680080
i dont think neither fo you know what pov means

well, the only tracker numbers we have for that botted stream say around 43.7k

Hag wolf is confirmed to have gotten 43.9k via https://vrabi.net/daily so Hag Wolf is currently gold. Sorry Prism friends.

Leave it to /#/ to showcase peak irony by trying their hardest to legitimize a botted stream with 15 different signs that confirm it to be botted, all the while trying their best to deny that cull exists on streams that end up with 100% poll participation in 2 minutes

>>23680166
The graph looks totally different from the one who got botted by anons.

>>23680472
manga?

>>23680487
meds

>>23680478 (me)
oh but you can content yourself in getting retard gold on EN tally

why does anyone care if it's botted? we only care about the numbers, don't like that you can fuck off

the streamer herself said it's not real

Looks like we getting blamed for this
>>23679330

>>23680487
>Taking shitposter and obvious troll seriosly
I hate newfags so much

>>23680487
>leave it to /#/
its one schizo, retarded anon

>>23680547
>why does anyone care if it's botted
>we only care about the numbers
no you don't

>>23680580
I do

>>23680564
It's that samefagging falseflagging retard

>>23680564
lmaooooooooooooooooooo
btw if you're a tourist you can check our reaction last thread if you think we did something lmao

>>23680564
I'd bet my life life savings that the same nigger that is falseflagging here made that post and also self-replied twice or even thrice in that thread

>>23680458
Spike schizo is a disgusting piece of shit. They waited until everyone was banned to start their attempt that spikes = bots, and acted with such innocence like they just found some crack in the code they just HAD to share, and then started pushing it into comments like it became a concensus. Actual disgusting shithead

>>23680400
Yes its some Fujo deflecting and saying Gura is botted because of Luxiem being accused of botting. Their argument is "look at this sawtooth, its botting!".

>>23680487
No one is saying it was real but striking it off the tally would lead to an incredibly slippery slope of people removing any streamer they dislike because "bots"

>>23680386
all those (You)s it's just him replying to himself right?

>>23680278
thats definitely not the same bot as millie`s, but you can still notice the ccv growing in waves

Do american streamers like ludwig/mizkif/esfand uses their money for tournaments with a high prize pool just because they want to turn their money intro investments for content? Like, in ludwig's case, he did a $1M poker with some celebrities but only got 1.5M views for a 9 hour stream. So I don't know what he actually gets out of this.

If we apply it to vtubing, can HoloEN use their money to make game shows with other vtubers with a prize pool?

wait, kanata didn't give a new peak? man this chat feels kind of weird

It's actually amazing that Fauna can consistently hit 6k on a game that has 10 fucking installments. What the fuck is wrong with her

>>23680793
Anon....
Playboard tracking doesn't call the API quickly enough, it's going to miss a ton and 'smooth' out graphs as a result.

>>23679369
Here's some (You)s: þū þē þīn ġit inc incer ġē ēower ēow

>>23680834
They can, besides (I don't know if Ludwig did this bc i didn't watch it) most of the times they can pay the prize pool just with sponsors and even get paid a shit ton of money

>>23680400
It's funny because if you actually look at her others statistics Gura ccv should be higher and if anything suffering from a cull. To say she is botted is pure copium.

>>23680762
>look at this worm, its botting

Moona 3k

https://twitter.com/adofai/status/1521669380467085312
Devs thanking Holos for playing their game.

>>23680938
she can both be suffering from a cull and being botted at the same time anon

>>23680869
It only very briefly overtook Sara, thank god it did because this place would've fucking melted down if an obviously botted 2view won gold

>>23681000
Or you just don't count the obviously botted 2view? Is that really so fucking difficult?

>>23680944
See? Just meaningless deflection

>>23680885
millie`s bot peak and die much more abruptly, around 10 minutes each spike. We were watching the prism girl, it was much smoother

The prism number feels like a visual bug like we have few months ago when we see some streamer drops to 1 viewer.

>>23680983
uhhhhhhhhh numbers?

>>23681036
some anons are really anal about counting everything for no reason, like, there were a ton of people that argued that obviously botted millie stream should be in the tally, even tally anon himself iirc

>>23680885
>>23681072
>>23680278
millie bot graph on playboard tracking. Not the same.

reminder from last night >>23652152

Mysta - https://vrabi.net/channel/UCIM92Ok_spNKLVB5TsgwseQ
Shu - https://vrabi.net/channel/UCG0rzBZV_QMP4MtWg6IjhEA
Vox - https://vrabi.net/channel/UCckdfYDGrjojJM28n5SHYrA
Ike - https://vrabi.net/channel/UC4yNIKGvy-YUrwYupVdLDXA
Luca - https://vrabi.net/channel/UC7Gb7Uawe20QyFibhLl1lzA

Holy fuck, why didn't I see it sooner? After like around 8th of April (Some started earlier, some started late), they all presented a worm like graph. Previously, their streams didn't get any worm especially for the month of Jan, Feb and March. It all started in April. It continues for all their streams after the first occurences.

I thought it was the fucking fujos who did this, but it's likely the company itself. Every other month for every single liver doesn't even have this worm.

>>23681036
If we do that then our resident schizo will start posting tallies without Gura since "she's botted" too supposedly

>>23681117
Millie being gold was more a payment for her sacrifice than it was a genuine belief that she earned gold though

>>23681117
Yeah and those Anons are retarded. It even doubly retarded because this is fucking prism project and not Niji and they are quite literally not even a fucking thought.

>>23681168
Gura isn't a fucking literal 2view while this aussie is.

>>23680834
The Poker tournament had everyone buy in with their own money I think and Lud ended 400k up from where he started so that's its own thing. For tournaments, Lud mostly does Smash Bros Melee tournaments since that's the scene that got him popular originally but he just loses money on those and does them out of respect. Mizkif and Esfand I imagine are heavily sponsored for their expensive projects since they're both with that streamer group

>>23680983
>Project Wingman devs and Voice Actors thrilled with Gura playing
>Powerwash Simulator put Kronii in their art thanking people for playing
>Ame and Ina getting artwork for this game
People love them Holos. Also, gotta feel horrible for the Core Keeper dudes over there. They avertised Gura’s schedule and were thrilled to have her play, only for her to cancel and play Devour instead lmao. Hopefully she does at least one stream for them

>>23680885
>>23681072
>>23680278
millie bot graph on playboard tracking. Not the same.

>>23681155
So this is what sony bots look like

>sony botted the prism stream
Sony isn't that fucking dumb.

>>23681117
because disqualifying streams due to bot suspicion is opening for potentially subjective biases on determining which is botted or otherwise and opens the can of worms that is incentivizing schizos to purposely botting a stream so that it wouldn't make the tally.
>irys 3d debut
>irysschizo pays $1q
>no gold for her lmao

>>23681289
>sony isn't dumb
>luna
>versen
could've fooled me

>>23681155
that small indie Koron 10k bots peak also happened on april 8th, oh shit..
>>/vt/thread/S22032980#p22037146

>>23681310
but the opposite side of that is that never disqualifying anything would made it so eventually all the streams at the top are botted 2 views

>>23681189
So, it's possible for a Holo/Niji to do a tournament with a prize pool inviting other EN corpos into it for a spin in money and fame? I do hope someone from HoloEN pulls a coco, does a tournament with a small $10k prizepool and invites people from every corpo to play in like what Hal did with VSaikyou. Just an MK8 Tourney would be a good start.

>>23681364
versen wasn't a failure. None of the girls complain and Sony hasn't stopped their acquisitions or investments.

>>23681200
>Powerwash Simulator put Kronii in their art
Proof?

>>23681310
>bot suspicion
bot suspicion is what anons here try to make off luxiem/strange graphs in general. a chuuba starting a MC stream with less than 100 viewers, spiking 8k in 10 minutes and ending with 40k+ out of nowhere is just fucking strange man >>23680278
not to mention the vod/poll.. the chuuba herself having no idea what is going on

well niji jp gold anyway so who cares about this mere 45k

>>23681536
whats going on in nijiJP today?

>>23681477
retard

>>23681412
i see no problem with that, other anons can post a version where they manually removes the 2views while the daily tally remains consistent and reproducible on how it gets it placements. less schizos and bait itt if compared to otherwise since no one really truly cares about those chuubas

>>23681501
reps niggafaggot

>>23680564
Well, no one here did anything and /#/ was just as confused as everyone else.

did everyone get banned last thread

>>23681200
>They avertised Gura’s schedule and were thrilled to have her play
This is why you wait for the holo to start the stream. Anyway a cancelled Gura game is gone forever. Just like Duolingo.

Prismgods

>>23681746
no

>>23681501
https://twitter.com/powerwashsim/status/1517820588500439041?s=21&t=3EYWnCeGr4v_a5i9i3wRug

>>23681536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5MWrcAXAE
nijifes hype program (even though nijifes is like half a year away)
I'm not sure it will actually get gold but tourists love niji's main channel and it's golden week so who knows

>>23681526
>Luxiem weird graphs
Their viewfarm theory was even supported by the low engagement from Shu's valorant stream as compared to a Holo's poll in 1-2 minutes.

>>23681289
didn't sony get caught buying good reviews on the early 2000s?

>>23681765
No one has ever learned a foreign language on d*olingo.

>>23681097
Welcome to /biz/, anon.

There doesn't have to be any debate on this stream going in the tally or not for fuck's sake. The VOD will never reach the CCV, the woman herself was like "well I guess most of these are not real people" for 80% of the stream, the youtube redirect only send like 200 people over. I'd honestly question how autistic the tally guy has to be to keep such a thing in, this is no "I think Luxiem is botting", this is "clearly these views were not real".

>>23681746
Not me

>>23681526
sure. funny charts, random spikes, and strange unexplained ccv are indicative of foul play whether it be bots, viewfarms, or the like. but as long as there's no a unanimously agreed upon procedure/method to deterministically categorize a stream as botted or otherwise, then doing so would only attract shitposting/bias accuses/schizo behavior in general to the daily tally.
Was the luxiem graphs bots? or VPNs? was the snake ridiculous ccv bots? or YT glitch? or some form of embeds?
if it was a glitch would a 40k ccv glitch disqualifies a stream? what about 4k glitch or a 400 ccv glitch?
and even if all of those are agreed upon, it would still open the can of worms I mentioned in the previous post.

>>23680339
lol, Gura has culling, not botting.

>>23681823
They're just gonna get viewfarmed anyway by bili2's associate companies.

What I notices is that the worm like graphs occur for Nijis, specifically streams that are in need of a boost to make their numbers seem big to the spectator's eyes e.g Sponsored streams/collab streams/EN in general. They commonly occur around 8-12am jst, some can be seen at other timeslots. The ccv breaks through the waiting room numbers easily, peaks, then dips. After the 10-min mark, they'll get a new peak specifically adding like 1.5-2k viewers from the previous peak. After that, they'll just add 500-1k viewers at times. Because of this, the graph appeared to be stair-like. Neither Shu or

No more discussion about bots below this point, young man. Go think about what you've done.

>>23681185
stop being racist

>>23682139
i'm gonna cum on sora's tummy

>>23682084
tourist from /ppg/ here, when she live redirected to Nia, she only got about 200+ viewers, but when Nia ended (with around 130ccv) and redirected to Aoi, almost all viewers (~100) were passed long

>>23681814
Why didn't they put niji in their art???????
Niji played their shit game last year??
I swear to god holobronies are really cancer to vtuber community…

>>23681289
Big businesses are more likely to use such type of tactics to give the impression that people are interested in their products. It's the same as with politics where they huddle everyone together, then have the cameras fixed on narrow, zoomed shots to make attendance look larger than it actually is. It's astroturfing 101.

PRISM PROJECT SUPREMACY

>>23682134
>Bilibili tricking Riku into going neck deep into the Chinese market
That sounds like a funny theory.

>>23682243
yeah, /#/ were aware of that as well

>>23682084
CCV is too unreliable, you will be here debating whether or not something is legit all day. Gold should be swapped to some other metric.

>>23682246
Git gud nijichink

>>23682252
The level of bad press would fucking kill any potential for good will. Everyone in vtubing would spit on Sony at every look.

>>23682300
Make your own tally and horse race with your preferred metric

>sony bots
So chinese are always innocent after all…
You guys blamed the wrong people all the time

>>23682300
most things from YT (or any site for that matter) can be botted anon
vod views takes too long to process and subs moves at a glacier's pace
The only accurate metrics are stream frequency and stream hours
oh and members/SC i suppose

>>23682084
>if it was a glitch would a 40k ccv glitch disqualifies a stream?
You can already see posts from the previous threads. It already disqualifies itself from the tally from not being genuine.

>Was the luxiem graphs bots? or VPNs? was the snake ridiculous ccv bots? or YT glitch? or some form of embeds?
Luxiem's worm had been occuring for a month already, no one knows why and the only we could do is observe its common traits >>23682134. It's not until other nijis caught the worm that niji numbers had been suspicious as fuck right now. It's not just that, I don't even get why Niji's power pro streams aren't affected by the worm but sponsored streams does.

>>23682246
because HololiveEN is marketable in the west, luxfags are not, and the niji girls are too small.

>>23682429
Then that will be niji's win easily

>>23682318
I'm not saying that it's good or bad, or whether it was transparent, but that it isn't beyond them.

>23682416
where do you think the view farm operate out of?

>>23682318
they already have 0 good will anon, especially after the luna fiasco

Gotta feel bad for NijiENs with an 8 chuuba jackbox collab that still hasn't passed 10k after a half hour.

>>23682456
>HololiveEN is marketable in the west
Kek

>>23682501
Go feel bad somewhere else fag

>a HoloEn losing to a NijiEN
The absolute state of council

>>23682300
>Gold should be swapped to some other metric.
It would just end up with a weekly/daily delayed chart for VODs, just like the music rankings. I don't know if the retards ITT would even be willing to make it happen or even put up with it.

>>23682525
your seethe about their art speaks for itself.

>>23682525
they are tho

>>23682529
Making fun of bad numbers is what /#/ is all about fag. You can leave if it hurts your feelings.

>>23682501
Seems like Holokeks are trying to sabotage tgeir numbers
Simple as

>>23682501
lmao they are pathetic

Mel holding on pretty solidly to this ~4500 in spite of it being idle chatter and SC reading. Incline is real

>>23682501
>Totally has the NA market guise!

>Nijishill out of the woodworks after being called out for viewfarms and worm-like graphs
>Deflects the topics by shitting on HoloEN

>>23682623
Botted

took a day off here, glad to see nothings changed during NA hours with falseflag baits.

>>23682555
As far as I remember for all the thousands of posts whining that the tally should be VOD views there's only ever been one attempt at a VOD tally and he gave up after like two days

>>23682453
>see posts from the previous threads. It already disqualifies itself from the tally from not being genuine
is not a deterministic at all anon. doing so would open other streams to negative astroturfing and samefagging in an effort to disqualify them.

>>23682300
Let's come up with the ULTIMATE vtuber metric, an index with every metric:
>peak CCV
>average CCV
>VOD views after 24 hours
>total VOD views
>SCs
>members
>subscribers
>merch sales
>sponsorships

>>23682569
Proof?
With those holoen's shitty numbers??

>>23682552
Nigger there's 8 of the roaches in that stream.

>>23682623
she got most of the funnel from mio totsu and next JP holo stream is in some hours still

>>23682737
6/8 of them are females and they're soooo shit according to you fags aren't they?

>>23682708
>vod views after 24 hours
no one tracks them, bot even vnuma back in the day. and we all know you wouldn't

>>23682737
>calling others roaches
Holokek is really no shame…

This board is so shit look at my hidden thread's numbers numeronfaggot

>>23682623
Golden week Mio Funnel, and being pretty much the only HoloJP streaming rn.
Also, spike in the middle of her stream where she jumped up to 6k due to tab-switching/stream-switching still looks odd, even if explainable.

>get botted into ridiculous liveview number potentially flagging your channel
>but receive actual viewer that are several times your normal thanks to the exposure
Blessing or curse?

>>23682718
>Proof?
see
>>23680983
>>23681814

>>23682737
you will make nijichinks mad again

NijiEN 4 - 1 HoloEN

>>23682810
bet there'll be more something like this in the future

>>23682796
Why do you care so much, anon? Just stay in your split.

>>23682870
But hololive's numbers are shit
Case closed

jwu, what's the news of the last 10 hours?

>>23682670
It's also the hours when the chink leaves and brazilian nijinigs are active.

>>23682874
>call the girls, who have done nothing wrong, roaches

>"why are they so mad at us?!"

>>23682796
the usual suspects
go back

>>23682810
seems like a sound investment, as expected from sony

>>23682810
Does YT actually punish people due to their channel getting botted? Unless they can show they encouraged it somehow it's pretty clearly not their fault.

>>23682970
stay mad chink

>>23682937
Hey at least I didn't flood the board with shitposting threads, I only stay in threads I cared.

>>23682796
weird as fuck taste
some is good but others is just bizarre

>>23682552
>NijiEN and HoloEN both losing to PRISM
Move over for the real top dog corpo, losers.

>>23682970
I feel you bro
Holofags are really no shame

>>23682990
at the very least it flags the channel for a more aggressive viewer verification. not much should change for her considering her viewers amount

>>23682970
all out war...

>>23682906
This is the reason for Holokek seethe. Looks like NijiEN will be taking the month easy

>>23682796
No hag thread?

>>23683145
But Hololive is winning the month though.

>>23683145
Tick tock Holokeks, it's Prisms time now

>>23683145
Gura is coming tomorrow

>3D ame
>sub 10k

>>23682708
hit me with that chuuba PER

>>23683205
No they aren't
But maybe in your dream :)

Can we have a time graph for thread quality over the course of the day? Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen one since ever.

>>23682300
There's also someone like me who've almost never watched livestreams. I just save the streams that looks good and watch the vod later at my convenience, could be on the same day, next week, or even next month.

God imagine if someone like Choco or Lamy was doing a trampoline stream with the full studio setup...

Holokeks?

>>23683224
Green bitch won't fuck off. Still has 6k people for some fucking reason

>>23682970
>>23683075
>nijinigs actually got mad
kek

>>23682796
>hiding ホロライブ

>>23683291
uhh if she can't get 10k even with overlap on this then its really all her. I'm not blaming fauna for it at all.

ame keep testing what she can do with her 3d model.
i already wanna see when she does the real stream.
>>23683291
yeah it is the perfect oportunity for fauna to funnel but she wants to keep playing shitty ass skyrim

I am SO GOD DAMN HAPPY Youtube implemented raids to their platform. It means that that retard spamming the "Peak median CCV" chart will be forced to either change to Average CCV or stop posting. fucking retard.

>>23683294
8 people can't beat ina

>>23682990
Who knows for sure, a single one-off shouldn't do any long-term damage but I wouldn't want to have my channel botted constantly, that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

It's amazing how 2 schizos can ruin a whole thread with a hundred people.
See you tomorrow I guess, today is already done

I love the Niji En fags never ever try to compete for the Global gold because they now for a fact that Holo JP could easily decimate Niji En

kek the chinks got mad cause someone called they livers roaches

>>23683266
spic/burger hours: garbage
sea hours: garbage
yuro hours: tolerable most days

>>23683445
>ESL
every time

>>23683294
The truth that Holokeks can't accept. NijiEN inclined beyond HoloEN and mogging them on the regular now. The golden age of NijiEN is here

>>23683266
Eu hours the thread is decent, the rest of the day is fucking trash

>>23683445
>Putting HoloJP on the argument
Holokeks don't even believe on their own EN branch anymore. pathetic state really

>>23683445
to be honest any collab with holoen pretty much can take the gold. but collabs are being scarse right now since most of them are busy or unavailable.

>>23683252
Wake up, anon. You are dreaming. This month is May, not August.

think i'd like to watch Ame play core keeper or stardew valley...

>HoloJP vs NijiEN timeloop
MAKE IT STOP

>>23682906
???
HoloEN is in the lead for cripple gold today. You got some karaokes/events lined up or what?

>>23683375
peak median ccv would be effective at filtering raided outliers peak tho, assuming they are infrequent however

>>23683445
Holo has always been rent free for nijifags. They even have to kneel to bugs, the ones who tried to destroy Holo but failed, just to get by.

>Nijimad
>Holomad
Feels good to be PrismChad

>>23683505
Incline you mean botting and using viewfarms, truly sad about NijiCN

HoloEN april numbers
>x4 over 10k median: gura, mori, ina, mumei
>total vod views: 54,265,836 (56,035,667 w/ official)
>total watchtime: 3,886,364
>total SC: $177,171


NijiEN april numbers
>x0 over 10k median:
>total vod views: 57,993,517 (65,864,954 w/ official)
>total watchtime: 6,449,716
>total SC: $656,505

>median: holo gold
>total vod views: niji gold
>total watchtime: niji gold
>total SC: total gold

NijiEN 3 - 1 HoloEN

>>23683543
manchurian gold i meant btw real gold is reseved for JPs

>>23683505
What incline, anon? Their April number is lower than March. And May is not looking good either.

>>23683505
ching chong

>>23683535
can't blame them honestly. imagine puting faith on streamers that don't even stream

>>23683601
>HoloEN is in the lead for cripple gold today
aren't you forgetting someone who likely just secured the monthly cripplegold?

holy small dog syndrome nijiniggers

>>23683662
I fully support Prism being included in the tally. So far they would be daily silver and retard gold.

End your fucking stream you green bitch, ame deserves this

>>23683762
I'm ignoring an obviously fake CCV stream and assuming that anon was too, but then it'd be Holo 1, Niji 3, Prism 1 not Niji 4.

>>23683724
Would you look at this fag.

>>23683445
>cause they now for a fact that
>>23683543
>but collabs are being scarse right now since most of them are busy or unavailable.
>>23683640
>They even have to kneel to bugs, the ones who tried to destroy Holo but failed, just to get by
PLEASE I JUST WANT TO POST WITH NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS FUUUUUUCK

>The collab starts worming
These people are actually shameless

The tally already included nijisanji botted streams.
Might as well include Prism. No difference.

>>23683609
Literally every stream end will be a raid now anon

Ame has the most retarded ideas ever. Blurry home 3d stream? Like...why? What's the point of this tease, we can all literally see her fucking 3d on the HoloEN channel.

Guess a proper studio 3D "debut" stream for Myth and ID1 is down to zero.
What did Kiara said in her last member stream about her 3D? Is it a debut or a skit for her birthday?

>>23683837
wrong board

>Alban 10k
When is Ame getting 10k on her stream? 3D stream, btw.

>>23683820
if she can't get 10k without overlap on THIS, then she doesn't deserve it. She needs to spend less and think more when it comes to interesting stuff.

Also that blur is not fun to look at.

>>23683294
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hololive is marketable in the west my ass

>>23683907
Yes anon, just Alban, this most certainly isn't almost half of NijiEN on that stream.

>>23683762
Vox will destroy everyone and take the monthly gold when he does his next unarchive karaoke

>>23683724
>total vod views
>total watchtime
>total SC
At least divide it by number if people if you want to be taken seriously.

I love worms do you like worms

>>23683837
Burgers can't even write properly, what do you mean?

Man nijiniggers are mentally deranged. Like their stupid fucking 10k stream isn't even the event of the night but here they are, spamming their classic bullshit. Every night, same fucking thing.

>>23684036
meds

huh

>stream still increasing in ccv
>"this is not fun"
>"this is a bad idea"

is a nice tech test not sure what is everyone problems if she had the stamina and put the reservation with more time she could easily get 10k alone.
Anwyay waiting to see how much fauna funnels ame. probably a 2k or something.

>>23684036
that's barely a worm

>23683980

>literally marketed by western devs
>>23681814
>>23680983>

consider your ass stretched and seethe eternally.

>>23683837
Sorry anon but the internet changed forever when the third world got smartphones and cheap data, now the half of this board that aren't newfags from R*ddit are newfags from SEA Facebook

>>23684036
Is this what bronies think botting is? no wonder they're retarded

>>23684151
yup
those are legit viewfarms. they were actually "legit" in the eyes of youtube

>>23684151
the fuck?

>>23684151
what the f-

>>23684151
Keep an eye on it, I'm curious if the views will stay or if YT will toss them out later.

>>23684184
Nijisanji has small dog syndrome, and they love to spread lies about Hololive.

>>23684151
>bots are still counted
the absolute state of youtube

>>23684151
Holy viewbots, Batman!

>>23684151
well, according to youtube those were legitimate viewers, guess she goes on the tally for real!

>>23684312
That's how Nijisanji gets VOD views.

>>23684151
well this means vods are not totally reliable either...

>>23684151
should reach 200-240k if they all pass the bot check

>>23684166
i doubt fauna will end something soon. ame will most likely finish early than her

>>23684151
It's actually a 40k stream

>>23684166
It's clearly started to stall as people realize this is another retarded ame gimmick going nowhere.

>>23683907
The embarrassing part about this is the fact that it's 3D and a coomer bait stream and she still can't get 10k. If this doesn't tell you hard far the mighty has fallen, I don't know what will. Holokeks are too delusional to save

>>23684066
More like holofags did thia retard

Ame... you don't need to fake embarassment.... If you really want to get eyes you don't need to do that weak hornybait, just organize your streams better....

>>23684151
NOT A BOT

>>23680983
Kaela...

>>23684439
"Short stream"
>Over 2 hours

>>23684439
fauna is hurting more the box than helping on it.
part of what makes JP works is theat when they finish another streams starts.
We saw what happened when miko overlapped all those other streams becasue her change of schedule.

>>23684151
well, not like we had any legitimacy anyway i guess

>>23684387
VOD ANON ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>23683980
>>23683505
>9400/8 = 1175
Nijiniggers can't do simple math.

>>23684095
No

>>23684494
> is a coomer bait
nigga she is just jumping and chatting.

Just wait for HolostarsEN, they will bring a new wind to the EN branch and even help the girls incline again.

>>23684151
Does this mean youtube can't tell they're bots if they slowly accrue but only if they suddenly spike?

Since the VOD views are counting, this means without a shadow of a doubt it was botting/view farming since the actual chat speed or votes barely increased.

It was between:
-view farm/bot
-some sort of algorithm recommendation/raid (out because it increased no metric like chat or polls to big levels/no one was commenting on seeing it trending or being sent there in chat)
-a glitch in the ccv display (would not also glitch the VOD, especially since it took time to process)

Last time anon botted Millie he said next time he'll pick a 2view and not tell us he's doing it. So...yeah.

>>23684546

>>23684610
Did holofags really…?

>>23684614
that's because there was downtime because the game ended

>>23684151
>THIS IS HOW HOLOLIVE GETS THEIR USUAL 30-40K STREAMS

holy shit...

HoloEN is dying...

HoloJP is still the strongest. When you say Hololive you mean HoloEN is reclining and losing to NijiEN, not Hololive.

>>23684499
All she needs to do is pick a time slot, stick with it, get her schedules out on time, put her stream reservations up 6-12 hours before they begin and stop being flaky during streams with her false endings.

>nijiEN doing good
bots bots worm worm fujos chinks!
>holoEN doing bad
ccvid cull cull susan!

sigh. maybe NijiEN is growing while HoloEN is just declining?

>>23684546

Nah, there's no coping with this. Ame SHOULD be getting 10k on this even with 1 overlap since its a 3d stream and gimmick. Its just recline man, Ame has reclined hard, she needs other people to get viewers interested in her because she's filtered everyone away aside from the diehards. Yea she prepared poorly for this stream too, but that's just Ame, a part of her that can't be considered separately.

End your fucking stream Fauna

>>23684760
take your meds zhang

>>23684614
>>23684707
holooo nonononono *WHEEEEEEEEEZE*

>>23684760
don't we have charts from like literally last month showing both holoEN and holoJP having 8k medians and nijijp behind vspo

>>23684546
it means their overall audience is declining rumao

>>23684546

>>23684823
>End your fucking stream Fauna
Nah, I prefer watching Fauna.

>>23684819
>le 3d stream
Fuck's sake, no one cares any more about these cockteases. Look at the actual stream, open your eyes, look at her "3D".

>>23684707
Then why is it STILL dropping while they're in a game? Literally about to get passed by Ame

>>23684819
is not her first 3d streams with a gimmick anon
Also 9k with fauna not finishing.

shitposting hours eh

>>23684869
No
Only in your dream :)

>>23684923
Because this mode in particular they are playing right now fucking sucks and it's terrible for streaming, I'm not paying attention at the moment

>>23684815
How inept are you to not notice falseflagging?

>EN streams always take a fuckton of time to reach their peak
>aieee where is the 10k anon screeches 30 minutes in, as the stream is at 9k
chill ya daft cunts

Wait is Ame using her actual 3D?

>>23684614
> 9114 ccv on a single vod
This is the power of 8 man NijiEN Collab streams ladies and gentlemen. What a fucking failure.

>>23684923
Hololive botting, just LOOK at those spikes lmao

>>23685058
Fauna still needs to end her boring fucking stream and funnel instead of playing this garbage still

>>23685089
Kys spike schizo, your chink "no u" shit is boring

>gimmick stream
>3D
>EN prime time
>golden week so the jap fan HoloEN supposedly had according to mythfags
>clean timeslot compared to JP primetime
>Myth member
>still below 10k

the recline is real...

>>23685058
well it better hurry since ame said she's ending in about 10 minutes

>>23685082
even myth collab in kiara channel get always more than that

ame graph is really spiky today

>>23685074
Yes. In full tracking suit too.

>>23685127
Moona's also 100% taking up EOPs with her rebroadcast karaoke. You gonna sperg at her too?