/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

this one

Remember if anyone says anything about people who get 4 digits on the regular flopping, he's suffering from terminal numberrot. Please do not take any of his statements at face value and forcefeed him meds

Holobronies status?

NIJIBOTS EXPOSED

>>23661619
LOVE HAGS

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1521880774194118657?s=21&t=fVa4_Zcj3_m1M-d4FRypsA
That shrimp? Me.

People that underestimated the shark are about to regret their words and deeds.

Gura will return with buff streams like
>3D Half Life Alyx
>3D Karaoke
>3D RFA
>3D Myth event

Ah, peace

As that anon mentioned, there's two reasons to go IPO.
And Anycolor IPO is coming off the back of the following -

> Gibara graduation
> NijiIN --> NijiEN --> NijiIN --> shitcanned
> Meiro yab
> Lulu graduation
> Roa basically going MIA
> Edengumi debut to 1k CCV speedrun
> Niji DLSite yab
> Yumenographia's death
> Nijifes cancellation 2 fucking days before the event
> Nippleman
> Ranunculus debut to 1k CCV speedrun
> NijiKR imploding
> NijiID tossed in the backburner
> Ibrahim venting about management
> Warabeda graduation
> Melissa graduation after clashing with management

And their actions taken after the IPO include -

> Luxiem official Bilibili accounts and Bilibili exclusive streams.
> Merch that's somehow even more low quality than the past year but at the same price.

Pretty obvious that the IPO is Rikkun's "final attack", he basically gave away half his control in order to get a cash injection to try and salvage the company, while still giving him an out if things go south.

>>23661619
Watching MR. Koro, as one should.

Ah, piss

>>23661676
>3D RFA
Pretty cute. I'm waiting for this. Also, 3D VR Horror.

>23661498
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
good shit, anon

Reimu... why didn't you listen...?

>>23661661
I made this post

>>23661640
U dont andastand anon, the view freeze cause its already reached 1m views

>>23661676
I guess 3d spam would be one way to compensate for the fact that the 3d reveal is forever fucked by holofes and will never get those promises debut numbers people were so hype about

>>23661676
>3D Half Life Alyx
not even 20k
>3D Karaoke
40k
>3D RFA
20k
>3D Myth event
40k

>>23661735
What actually happened here? Who ended?

damn, that fake holiday pink dog made got her like a million and a half

>>23661568
>Interracial JAV bikini

Based?

>>23661689
>Roa basically going MIA
Isn't that the one on court?

>>23661735
Why are you watching a latinx?

>>23661790
>3D Myth event
depends which channel. (Pls no kiara or mori)
>Gura 3d concert
above 100k

>>23661850
what fake holiday huh

Oh yeah, where's the tally

>>23661916
koyo day, it's a pun with her name and the date, and she streamed over 12 hours today

HoloEN is dead now. The only way to save them is for Sykkuno to raid Gura every stream in hopes the injection of new viewers will once again revive HoloEN as a whole. They will also need to collab on the regular

Why do people doom posting Mori's numbers ignore her audience is still mostly NA? Like this is not even cope, you can see her jump timezones often enough to draw the pattern

I would unironically think it'd be better if Calli did a watchalong of Johnny depp's trial

>>23661984
Give it 5-10 minutes.

>>23661994
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>23661994
>cover allows sykkuno to raid gura and vice versa
>sykkuno fans get flagged with the ccvid
>youtube doesn't wants this, cure the ccvid forever
YES PLEASE

>>>/jp/39693174
>>>/jp/39693174
>>>/jp/39693174

>>23661994
Twitch status
Ine still No 1
Zentraya re-debut starting
Mika streaming on Twitch, playing chess with Oliver.

>>23661994
t. sykkuno

>>23662228
>>23661498
every time

2m GETTO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNTAMY1NZA
Didn't catch the exact time, but that's what ~22 days to 2m. Pretty dang good as far as Orisongs go.

>>23662228
holykek

>>23662228
Numbers?

>>23662348
i guess nijiEN chinks really do dwell here
i'm kind of grossed out to be quite honest

>>23662228
>I'm not adding holoEN because it's hard
of fucking course he was a nijinigger kek

>>23662228
he`s probably stealing all the data of the retards downloading it

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>42,756: Mio (Hololive)
>36,532: Miko (Hololive)
>24,194: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,910: Laplus (Hololive)
>19,595: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,265: Hololive (Hololive)
>17,902: Axia (Nijisanji)
>17,236: Korone (Hololive)
>16,300: Mito (Nijisanji)
>15,901: Toya (Nijisanji)
>15,442: Kanata (Hololive)
>14,838: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,766: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>13,971: Debiru (Nijisanji)
>13,767: Botan (Hololive)
>12,484: Asumi Sena (VSPO)
>12,054: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,567: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,383: Saku (Nijisanji)
>10,245: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,021: Ike (Nijisanji)

Mio clinching the day before it even started

>>23662384
So all the big songs from last month are in the 2 mil area now
Mar 31: Template - Suisei - 2.456 mil
Apr 4: CapSule - Mori & Suisei - 2.471 mil
Apr 13: Doggy god's street - Korone - 2,004 mil
Apr 27: Marine Set Sail - 2.317 mil

And the cover
Apr 16: Asunoyozora - Startend - 2.639 mil

Even Beat Eater on Reine's channel is at 1 mil now.
What a great period.

>>23662637
Holofes surely boosted the musical side of Hololive

>>23662630
12 holos
8 nijis
1 vspo
top 10 7-3 for holos, holo podium and gold
weird day, tons of 10ks but just 1 40k, 1 30k and 1 20k

>>23662630
>Mio win again
Time to unzip

>>23662630
HAG LOVE

>>23662630
If only Mio took yesterday, she mightve gotten a banger median for May

>>23662799
That's not how the median works anon. Each stream over her median offsets one stream under the median regardless of how high or low they go.

The only thing she would have would be more golds.

>>23662630
sasuga Miko, she'll find dumb way to slip

>>23662607
>downloading
You deserve it if you do this.

>>23662384
mori's nepotism too strong

>>23662630
12k for the whore of vspo, interesting

Thread is oddly calm now. Is there a certain part of the world that went to bed?

>>23663131
Japan, Australia and the SEA

>>23663131
I mean, normally at this time there's just horny posting but i guess they blew their load too hard the other day with the other Mio gold

>>23663150
>Australia
I knew it

>>23663002

>>23662228
>>23662348
>tribalfags JP vs EN in the /jp/ thread
>refuses to add holoEN
>watches nijiEN
Fucking pottery

>>23663177
WELCOME TO AUSTRALIA!

>>23663183
SUZY WITH THE CHAIR

>>23663221
I'd like to always give them the benefit of the doubt and assume most shitposting is falseflaggers but then there's this shit. Christ.

>>23662630
https://youtu.be/2l_6oIGTrbg

>>23663131
no shit JP prime time just ended

>>23663126
There's a VSPO hater now?

Well, for this site's standard - Asumi already confirmed she's had boyfriends before and she's doing an offcollab with Hoshikawa in a few days.

>>23663285
I feel like the shitposting is just a consequence of the schizos who aren't doing it for shitposting purposes but because they're legit mentally ill.

>>23663221
>>23663285
I warned you about the nijiniggers bros

>>23663403
>There's a VSPO hater now?
it means they are being relevant. Congratulations

>>23663520
>>23663221
he still watches HoloJP though so he's a Holofan

>>23663569
once a nijinigger always a nijinigger

>>23662630
Mio winning so much in such a short amount of time

>>23663569
he is now backpedaling about his decisions

>>23661909
>above 100k
Juts like how Mori's 3D birthday was meant to surpass Suisei's concert, right?

>>23663891
You forget this is gura and not mori

Ok, Watame even ended her stream.
This night really is over.

>>23663929
Nah, Ko'ne is still streaming

>>23661895
yeah, same one that they tried to drag Lulu into (when she just wanted to stream in peace).

>>23664011
So is Lilpa
https://www.twitch.tv/lilpaaaaaa

But for Watame viewers, they just sit in chat sending hearts till the stream dies, then they go to sleep. No one gets the funnel, not even her songs.

Maybe they should cater to the chinese audience more.
The NA audience doesn't seem to give them any attention compared to CN.

>>23661994

So did Laplus just decide that today she wanted to be an ultra numberfag for whatever reason
She didn’t reach the goal either right?

>>23662630
Miosha winning.
not gonna post that many today since her last win was fairly recent

>>23663183
> tfw Migo slips to Suichan

>>23662630
When not even the hornyposter's around, might as well call it.

>>23664098
Well, at least she didn't put the flag on it.

>>23664098
Reimu’s final gambit to grow, pander to chinks.

>>23664139
no she did

>>23664139
>She didn’t reach the goal either right?
She did reach easily as it was 770.

I don't know why she didn't go for 777 like others before her tho.

New minor NijiEN yab apparently (>>23663191).

>>23663265
kangaroos, the marsupial niggers of the animal kingdom.

>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Kanata, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
88x: Hololive
27x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
15x: Aqua, Pekora
10x: Kuzuha
7: Subaru
6x: Hal, Miko
4x: Kanata, Suisei
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Marine, Okayu, Toya
2x: Ange, Flare, Korone, Mio, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chloe, Chronoir, Fuwa, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Koyori, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Hololive need 91/241 remaining golds to win the year

>>23664347
Take it elsewhere, anon

>>23664278
Not a bad option really. It's easy to say that Nijisanji EN should target the NA audience but they would still be mostly 3-views if that was the case.

They were getting very low numbers back in Fall before the Luxiem debuts in December. I still remember Ethyria's debuts and how it sank the entire branch's viewership

Kobo didn't just blasted past Sana, she just put 100k between them.
Sana lost more or less some 150k in the sub cull meaning Kobo is *almost* catching up to her *accounting* for the sub cull

>>23664461
It seems like Hololive would win 2022 by October.
Another year of dominance.

>>23664535
Reimu is dumb, she is LATAM no? She could *easily* turn to that market but, in order to do that, she would have to do it jumping in with both feet.
>streams entirely in spanish
>entirely in LATAM memes
>tagging along with LATAM streaming and vtuber community

This would take preparation and a deliberate strategy, not winging it like she tried before, or how Nina tried before with French and Russian

>>23664630
Or Millie came running back to the flips when she flopped

>>23664630
she's in America

>>23664685
Anon, so is Sofia Vergara. There is a huge market for english speaking hispanic women both in NA and in LATAM

>>23664763
Just because there's a market doesn't meet any product will sell. Not everyone enjoys consuming chink goods.

* EN TALLY OF THE DAY *

>14,772: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,021: Ike (Nijisanji)
>9,187: Mumei (Hololive)
>8,762: Ina (Hololive)
>7,955: Luca (Nijisanji)
>6,664: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,252: Ike (Nijisanji)
>5,689: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>5,421: Mori (Hololive)

>>23664910
doesn't mean*
Garbo auto fill

> Korosan's numbers are increasing the longer the night goes on
Are these Eurofags tuning in?

>>23665031
GOLDEN
FUCKING
WEEK

>>23663403
calling them whores doesn't mean you hate them
it's just what they are
that one reid faggot made fun of sumire''s members the other day and she didn't even defend them, just laughed at his kimo-ota impersonation

jannies, tell the mods to stop downloading porn, The site crashed for some minutes

>>23664986
EN GOLD SO FAR IN MAY

1. Luca (Nijisanji) - 36,567 (Unarchived Karaoke)
2. Mori (Hololive) - 24,044 (Chat & Introduction w/Mama Mori)
3. Shu (Nijisanji) - 14,353 (Birthday Zatsu)
4. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,772 (The Closing Shift)

Hololive - 1
Nijisanji - 3
Others - 0

>>23664986
>>23665098
kys

>>23664116
He said hololive EN, not all of hololive. EN is very clearly stagnant and verging on an unambiguous decline because the talents aren't active on Youtube.

>>23665082
It actually crashes around this time fairly often, I get the feeling that they are doing some scheduled updates around this time

>>23663191
>>23663191
>>23663191
this could be interesting

>>23664068
are you retarded? roa and lulu have nothing to do with each other. roa situation is about meiro and narukami lawsuit.

>>23665209
stop shilling your kusothread no one cares

>>23665247
nijiseethe

>>23665145
EN is doing fine though

>>23665247
stay mad chink

Number of Nijisanji graduates: 49
Number of Hololive graduates: 10
Unbeatable in this stat.

Thankfully things are picking back up somewhat, Calli's back playing Elder ring, Gura's back and teasing more 3D, Ame installed a thing for today's stream (which I'm assuming it's gonna be 3D) Ina doing Starwars... And whatever Council is doing

>>23665313
Now compare the amount of members in each and see the percentage

>>23665313
are you conflating graduation with getting fired
because most got fired

>>23665313

>>23665273
>EN is doing fine though

>>23665313
why is nijisanji such a black company?

>>23665227
mate, Niji management was stopping Lulu from streaming every time some "stalker" came up, despite she herself having been long since used to it from PL stuff, and wanting to just continue streaming.

It was pretty obvious that Niji mgmt had an agenda against stalkers too, considering how they're going with the Roa lawsuit - showing damages by 'not being able to stream' in order to buff the case and call for stricter punishments.
And this method would have less impact if the talent was tweeting occasionally and interacting with their audience (to keep fanbase interest up, like how Miko and Kanata did), which is why Roa rarely tweets.

Poor Roa is too young and so is more easily led on by the perceived "justice" against rrat merchants (without realizing that her audience is slowly leaving her).

>>23664910
>>23664994
Nothing ventured nothing gained. It is definitely worth a try

>>23665256
>>23665295
>1 minute and 1 second apart

>>23665313
>6 unavoidable due to being driven out of china
>2 fired due to contract breach
>1 graduated due to outside harassment
>1 normal graduation
is that correct?

>>23665052
yeah that would be the case if the audience size is steady, but it's INCREASING.

>>23665560
rent free

>>23665507
You know, if the lawsuit fails I wonder how Roa would feel losing out on 1-2 years of her streaming career.

>>23665560
piss off

>>23665565
I'm surprised he didn't count the holostars.

>>23665586
there's basically no way the lawsuit can fail after the ruling that what's his face can't hide behind the "It's just a character bro" excuse, though I'll admit that whatever Roa gets out of it probably won't be worth putting her career on ice for two years

>>23665565
only 1 contract breach

> 6 HoloCN
> 1 homo due to health issues
> 1 homo cancelled contract themselves due to 'personal reasons'
> 1 graduated due to outside harassment + family issues
> 1 graduated due to creative differences
> 1 contract terminated due to NDA breach

>>23665651
How do Japanese courts work in that regard anyways. I doubt he has that much money.

>>23665273
Are you sure?

>>23665586
I'm guessing she'll be elated and excited that she can "finally be free" and come back to a wasteland.
idk what that's going to do to the mind of someone so young.
I also have no idea how many of her close niji friends will remain by the time she gets back.

>>23665031
As Eufag, that's exactly what i'm doing.

>>23665711
I have no idea, but it is a civil suit not a criminal suit so yeah best case scenario she gets a bunch of money and a portion of his income for a good few years. Not really a good replacement for her career and I guess this is why dramatubers get away with alot of shit, but then again I suppose it's abit of a Hulk hogan scenario where making him hurt is worth more than the monetary compensation

>>23665497
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>>23665740
when have EN ever been able to consistently compete directly with single timezone audiences outside of debut buffed pre cull myth? this is nothing new

>>23665710
the 10 is just in hololive
holoCN
rushia + chris
aloe
coco
including stars its 13

>>23665710
you forgot about the gen 1 guy who quit after not getting enough support

>>23663891
Mori would've gotten higher if it was actually a full concert instead of whatever that first half was and if she had better non-Suisei guests than a homo.

>>23665497
Lick my balls kayloud

>>23665710
i assumed he was talking about Hololive
>Chris/Rushia
>CN
>Aloe
>Coco

>>23665740
yea

>>23665878
homo? ah fuck, I don't remember that guy.
I also missed fucking Hitomi Chris.

>>23666011
>>23665710
also if you guys start including the stars I insist that you include the 49 yumenographia girls in the nijisanji figure too

>>23666011
Suzaku, he does very well these days since he was the main collab organizer between Holo/Niji roommates during the among us era iirc.

>>23665936
Hold up, what the fuck is Sleep Monster?

>>23665313
The Hololive graduates are 13, anon.

>>23665273
No,EN is not doing fine.
They are not interested in streaming.

So i am guessing it is true. Hololive en has come to an end as the Nijisanji en are monopolising very department slowly

The "Hololive EN is doing fine" fags remind me of the "Nijisanji JP is doing fine" ones.

>>23666201
>>23666165
>>23666136
I warned you about the nijiniggers bro

>>23666079
ah nice, good to know.

>>23666055
pretty sure that's where the >49 from that guy's list comes from.
It's not a fair trade for Niji tbqh

>>23662228
>>23662348
>>23662512
for the record, towatools, the one that was linked here is not the nijinigger, the "holowatch" one is the nijinigger

>>23666080
ASMR focused company
https://youtube.com/channel/UCQRfUPNla7dB-kdcWD92lJg?cbrd=1

>>23666136
sounds like a you problem, they are just as enjoyable as ever for me

>>23666165
>t. holobrony trying to falseflag his way of this

>>23665098
Who else was on Mysta's stream? No way he can get that many viewers by himself.

>>23663002
What do you mean? That's not what slipping means, she was never in the lead.

>>23666276
She reverse slip

>>23666259
Bruh, it’s just himself.

>>23666259
Him and his worm.

>>23666259
Why donu think he couldnt? He normally averaging in 10k before his yabs and he’s in redemption arc now.

>>23666259
Stage 3: Bargaining

>>23666335
Lmao the last drop was him losing his internet connection or OBS technical issue

>>23666232
no there are actually 50 nijisanji graduates without including however many people were in yumenographia, the guy forgot to update it for Gibara. And by the end of the month it'd be 51
Normally I would say that 51 graduates is par for the course for a company that's been operating for three years across multiple branches, but given how nijiniggers are acting here these days I'm loathe to say anything to defend them

>>23666201
except nijiJP had a competitor in holoJP, holoEN have no direct competitor

>>23666430
Can you give a breakdown by year of graduation?

>>23665031
i tuned in after laplus

>>23666493
I literally just went to the wiki and counted, so no. No I cannot.

>>23666546
I can do it then; link me

>>23666593
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/NIJISANJI

mio mommy sex

>>23666487
The fact that their competitor is not as strong as NijiJP's competitor has nothing to do with HoloEN's performance, sure it makes it less possible for them to lose their market leader spot but what's the point of being a market leader when you are shrinking?

>>23666603
Thanks. Counted 32 from the Nijisanji branches, 8 from the Virtual Real and 6 from Virtual Real China. I may have missed some but it checks out, Yumenographia not included

>>23666487
I hope you've learnt your lesson about responding seriously to posts like that. The people who make those posts aren't interested in actually having a discussion, they just have an agenda to push and will force all kinds of mental gymnastics in order to push it through. Unless you have actual hard numbers responding to them like you are in a debate just gives them more ammo to use. And even if you do have hard numbers they'll just ignore it anyways, like >>23665936

>>23666603
Graduations by branch:
>JP - 18 (including Melissa)
>CN - 15
>KR - 14
>IN - 3
>EN - 0
>ID - 0

>>23666864
are you sure you counted it right? Because I got 34 from the nijisanji branches, and 14 from the chinese branches.

I don't understand what the point of number fagging with some of the en members?
Kronii, Gura and Mumei legit don't want to be the popular Vtubers and are very happy for where they are right now. Gura and Mumei have repeatedly also said that they don't want people out this demographic to be attracted to their streams as it may cause more trouble than it will do good in the future (A recent example is the current Nijien fanbase vs Kanae).
IRyS is just feels grateful that there are people still watching her.
Fauna is also in the same veins as IRyS.
The only people who do numberfag are Kiara(she deserves to numberfag), Mori, Bae(she deserves to numberfag as she is one of the most hardworking Vtubers from En, and still that Number fagging is still tame and almost non existent).

>>23667012
oh fuck off

>>23665936
I love how everyone involved in the "Discussion" just ignores this because it deosn't support the narrative they are trying to push

>>23667008
I’m sure I did not count, as I speed read it looking for the word “retired”

>>23667012
>Bae(she deserves to numberfag as she is one of the most hardworking Vtubers from En, and still that Number fagging is still tame and almost non existent).
lol
lmao
At the rate she's going even Fauna works harder than she does

>>23667078
yeah that wouldn't catch a couple of the chinese ones

jesas that's like, 20%-ish of their talents either fired/graduated. noone's ever gonna beat that and its only gonna get worse i feel

>>23667098
>She is legit streaming with a broken back and has to mangae her uni on top of that+she is not in a stable state as Beasty isn't with her anymore.
Sure, i will like to see you try this

>>23667098
btw do we have any brats here?
why did Bae's hours/efforts collapsed after her FeBAErary?

>>23667176
Illnesses and family emergencies, in short

>>23667164
It's mostly VirtualReal, Nijisanji KR and IN that have/had a lot of troubles and graduations.

>>23666259
Pretending to be scared shitless while playing a horror game is a huge buff (for everyone).

>>23667164
doesn't nijisanji only has 200 ish talents? that's more like a quarter isn't it?

>>23667012
>Kiara
>numberfagging
She basically stacks as many debuffs as humanly possible while actively avoiding buff content that she doesn't 100% likes

>>23667012
>I don't understand what the point of number fagging with some of the en members
The point is the same for any other member
>just because

For the record I see no distinction between
>don't want to be the popular Vtubers
and
>loathes their audience

I said that because, even considering just the 400 or so vtubers tracked in this thread (out of some 20000 to 40000 that are reported to exist) all of EN (even Sana) are in the top 100 of the industry and all but three in the top 50 (when ranked by median of peak CCV) with Gura and said being in the top 15 in ANY metric, **at worse**.

There is no distribution between saying
>I’ll strive to have a smaller audience
and
>I dislike my current audience
when you already is that big.

I can perfectly understand a 2 view saying
>I’m OK having 23 regular viewers and 130 subs, a lot more than that and the preparation to cater an audience much bigger would make it more trouble that worthy
but that will NEVER apply to the streamers you’re mentioning.

>>23667209
even just JP alone has 17 (soon to be 18) graduated members so they aren't exactly getting dragged down
Funnily enough it';s the ID division that hasn;t had a single graduation

>>23667167
I'm going to sound fucking awful, and I say this as a person who has had a lot of pets growing up, some that even died suddenly or I had to put down because I couldn't catch the cancer in time, but how the fuck is she sad about Beastie when Beastie isn't dead and she can visit her when she wants?

>>23667337
Other than the current Mika “defection” that branch is the closer that could really claim to have a “family like” relationship

>>23667337
ID talents probably makes more than what an average indo gets even if they stay as 2-3views

>>23667167
Wait what? Bae has a broken back and a “dog that isn’t there anymore” too!? WTF is going in Australia, they’re doing deadlifts and feeding their dogs creatine?

>>23667312
keep writing that much and your ESLness will keep leaking, kek

>>23667511
That and the mobilepostiness too, I’m sure.
The tl;dr should be
>if you hate acting in front of an audience you shouldn’t have taken a job in the main cast of a Broadway show

>>23667586
>if you hate acting in front of an audience you shouldn’t have taken a job in the main cast of a Broadway show
All of Myth thought they would be ID tier. Council clearly didn't think they'd do well either since half of them still can't fathom the support they're getting.

kek, if you think YouTube numbers are fake check this out
>pic related
/biz/ numberfags must suffer a whole lot more with their pink wojaks than the good lads on this thread with Susan shenanigans

>>23667586
It's more like i'm big and wealthy enough to live comfortably, so im just gonna do what i want to and not worry about the numbers.

>>23667677
holy shit did that really happen?

>>23667637
>Council clearly didn't think they'd do well either
I could give you Myth and start from the same assumption for Botan and Ina, both sharing the same trait of
>taking up streaming as a relaxing activity away from their stressful former jobs
(in Ina’s case, current other job)

But Council? They were all born not in the shoulder of giants but at the top of the Everest with the full might of both JP and Myth to boost them up.
The expectation for them was always sky high

>>23667700
>so im just gonna do what i want to and not worry about the numbers.
Given that numbers are a reflection of how much the audience appreciated their output I’ll just restate: that’s the same as saying they don’t care about the people watching them.

I don’t believe that’s the case tho, lots of personal and a few professional reasons are causing them to perform worse in comparison with their past selves

>>23667411
I also listed two more reasons anon.
Also there are alot of family related stuff that i have not mentioned.
Look i am not a brat by any means(infact i prefer watching Mumei and Fauna over Bae in council).
But my little rat is going through a tough time. Good thing she has been talking and spending time with IRyS off stream as right now i think IRyS and Mumei are the people she is the closest with in Holo and they will continue being her friends in the longer run

>>23666993
>nobody in ID have retired
wow I thought ID was a shitshow like KR is

>>23667987
What, Mumei and Bae are close?
I thought Mumei is closer to Fauna and Kronii.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMlS04prz4o
>reading superchats and then playing a game after
It's always interesting to see the various ways HoloEN debuffs themselves.

>>23668078
You're thinking of IN, ID, while getting low numbers, was doing amazingly by the standards of nijisanji foreign branches before the merger happened

Excluding the debut stream, this is the 5th stream Rio had that reached 4 digits ccv. I really wish they woyld stop debuffing themselves and streaming at 2-3am JST

>>23668126
Yeah, those superchat readings, niche games and public watchalongs are murder to their numbers.

>>23668187
Astel doesnt have a frame up so his apexfags are in Rio's chat
Surprisingly, going with Nier Replicant and Omori right out the gate didn't seem to matter all that much in the end

>>23668126
Wish they all didn't give a shit like Ina and just maybe reads one or two when they come in and don't bother with superchat readings, especially since she turns them the fuck off anyway during these streams so it's not like she's getting anything out of it

>>23667965
not necessarily.
If they have say about 2k people as a floor, there's nothing wrong in tuning your content for the benefit of those 2k people, because they are the ones who will watch everything you put out and buy all your merch.
Any extras after that are welcome when they want to watch, but the chuuba won't guilt trip them or otherwise force them to watch their stuff (some 3dpd whores do this).
The chuuba still cares for her audience (the base 2k) even if the casuals don't tune in for everything.

>>23663403
some people love whore anon

Irys playing RE2 today. GO FOR THOSE NUMBERS IWYS

>>23667051
Numberrot and people forget that EN's heavy hitters have been having IRL stuff keeping them busy lately.

>>23668651
if that's actually what happened they would've addressed that chart in their argument, instead they just carried on like their entire premise didn't just get challenged

>>23668697
I mean your not wrong either. Theirs just 2 other factors as well that are contributing to the recent "EN isn't doing good narrative".

>>23668631
I honestly wish Irys had a mind of her own instead of seeing someone else playing something and deciding to play it too.

>>23668746
no they are just asswipes with an agenda to push, and you thinking that they are actually trying to engage in good faith is why this thread keeps going to shit

>>23667337
This may be why the value of a Niji graduation is diluted.

A holo graduation is a fucking huge event with massive repercussions rippling across all the other talents because they're all so well connected.
A niji graduation is a more local event, affecting whichever clique the graduated liver belonged to, with at least 50% of livers not even giving them a goodbye tweet or otherwise acknowledging it (because they may never have had any interactions with the graduated liver).

Like Sora, the nijis may have become desensitized to graduations, and accepted that as a fact of their job.

But where the holos tell you to cherish the time you have with those you love, a large part of niji livers seem to take the opposite approach of "I'm eventually gonna graduate anyway, so why should I work hard for anything here?".

>>23668631
>Irys playing RE2 today. GO FOR THOSE NUMBERS IWYS
Please play as the retard, IRyS. I'm tired of everyone picking Leon.

>>23668829
case in point >>23668760

>>23668187
Hey, at least that means his ceiling is above 1k one month in.

>>23668585
>there's nothing wrong in tuning your content for the benefit of those 2k people,
While that’s true does it look like Gura content is “tuned” right now? Kronii?

They keep and audience alright, and for the same reason Haaton (which is my case) stuck with Haachama through thick and thin, with her audience staying at least in the 2k+ range.
Same goes for Matsuri, same goes for Mel… it’s not because their content was “tuned” to this small crowd that remained in the audience but because some intangible reason like attachment, being used to their presence, routine or even love (in the love for a retarded daughter sense).
All of these three examples kept disappearing for personal reason or no reason, cancelling streams, spamming debuff uninspired streams not because they wanted to do what they like for a smaller audience but because of whatever problem they were going through.

Compare and contrast with Okayu and Fubuki, these two are more like what you said.
Okayu played Omori to a very small audience because she was really fond of the game and both her and the audience (myself included) knew something special was coming out of it and it did and it really paid off to stick with the story and the gameplay.

I believe Ame (specially), Bae, IRyS, Gura and Kronii are more in the Haachaama’s case above than on Okayu’s case.

>>23667051
>>23668651
I am discussing the state of EN and there is no doubt a even a culled and debuffed HoloEN is still at the absolute top of the market. The comparison being made (at least by me) is not
>how EN compares with other branches and companies
but
>how high EN could reach if all the conditions lined up, and how their present numbers compare to that

WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE TO THE DEATH?

>The MOST ANTICIPATED defection from Twitch, celebrated by Youtube Gaming themselves, publicized and catered to with massive changes in the whole streaming structure of the biggest streaming site of the world, buffed by his platform debut and the whole mainstream and social median pushing for him
>one humble hag wolf waking up early as usual to wake her friends up for work

THE ANSWER WILL BAFFLE; CONFUSE, IMPRESS YOU, CURD YOUR MILK, SPOIL YOUR EGGS AND UNBRAID PEKORA'S HAIR!

>>23669092
Well if the audience stuck with it, then it's pretty obvious that "she doesn't care about her audience" is a retarded statement to make y'know.
Chuuba audiences may be yes-men and a little more retarded than others, but if they actually feel that they aren't valued, then they will start leaving, which has not yet happened for any of the ENs.

>>23669554
How are the vod views?

>>23669554
chumbud prime...

>>23669647
Pekora with Jun
Gura with Sykkuno
Kobo with Windah
Makes you wonder the power of the blue.

Numbers from spotify. In the past 2 weeks :
>Mori
500k -> 492k (-8k)
>Gura
281k -> 276k (-5k)
>Irys
80k -> 78k (-2k)

>>23669724
Unironically:
Mio - 269,893 views - 1:12:26h
Sykkuno - 973,688 views - 5:38:39h - Was No 1 trending in NA for gaming.

>>23670064
the power of unculled EN streamer...

>>23670064
>Was No 1 trending in NA for gaming.
Don't you love it when Youtube cheats

>>23669554
5 hags vs 1 prettyboi (ojisan)
the odds were stacked against him

>>23670104
But this makes it looks like he's culled.

>>23670108
~1 million views Vod tends to do that (in the region the stream is listed from)

>>23670161
>>23670104
He had the worm, he's hung around too much with the NijiEN boys.

>>23668860
No chance. She’s the most straight EN member.

>>23669559
>but if they actually feel that they aren't valued, then they will start leaving, which has not yet happened for any of the ENs.
Ame undeniably reclined

Where's everyone?

>>23670161
>5h38m
what was the average ccv? I’d say the vod views would be normal for a 25k avg

>>23670878
I'm literally getting ready for bed, and I think a bunch of them are having fun in the catalogue. Been seeing alot of chink larpers pop up over the last hour

>>23670868
Eh, her median is pretty much stable.
VODs are suffering though, she's never had <50k VODs even for watchalongs in 2021.
She's getting an Ina treatment now, but her loyal fanbase is smaller.

DAY 3
https://youtu.be/Fo23-71emUw
La+,Haachama,Koyori,Mel,Luna and Kanata

>>23670878
sorry the market is giving me handful after the feds rate announcement

>>23671085
more likely those were watchalong at ungodly hours.

>>23671085
Her views gaining rate is still 30% faster than Ina in every timeframe tho?

>>23671260
True, but the amount of <100k VODs from Ame in the last 3 weeks is concerning. And she's not even spamming streams as much as someone like Koyori.

>>23671350
>watchalong
>severe overlap
>SC reading
The type of content is the direct cause. Ina rarely stream debuff content and when she does, she fails 100k too.

>>23670868
>Ame undeniably reclined
>>23671085
>Eh, her median is pretty much stable.
>VODs are suffering though
Yep, here is a "control group": her APEX streams.

Most of them are about the same length (a little under or a little over 2 hours), and, other than the collabs, they have the same content for the same type of audience.

There was an abrupt recline in those numbers around the time of that collab with Roboco and Towa (but unrelated to that), after which her VOD views for APEX dropped to around or 150k when they were consistently above 200k.

Is it safe to assume it is related to that break she took back in August 2021?

>>23670940
his avg was probabaly over 25k. which makes the vod believable.
take gura's first Elden ring which had an avg of 25k, lasted 3hrs, and is sitting at 800k currently.
Also, keep in m mind this is his youtube debut so that has added attention

>>23670940
>>23671736
forgot pic

>>23671666
I honestly think that the issue with Ame is the lack of a strong niche.
She always was 'a filler of dead hours' type, basically the waiting room for Gura.
Now, with 11 chuubas in the branch, the void could be filled with the others.
Combine that with lack of collabs and poor game choices, and voila - tourists forgot about you.

>>23671666
>>23671880
I think the more contributing factor is that her behaviors have becomes more erratic. Short reservation, no twitter advertisement, shuffling schedule around, no fixed timeslot. It's like she just gave up on getting new people.

>>23671880
her niche is platformer and mystery games. her apex and oblivion streams have their own distinct audience. ER might be temporarily taking oblivion slot though.

NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD
NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD

>>23672170
>her niche is platformer and mystery games. her apex and oblivion streams have their own distinct audience
And that's exactly the issue. She's bad at those things.

>>23671666
>>23671880
Here is *all* streams with the VOD in the bar and the last 15 streams median in the line.

After the end of her debut buff her median stabilized between 150k and 200k, but right after SportFes in early Nov 2021 (but not necessarily related to it) the median fell to below 150k never to return to the previous levels.

I think it was when she took a break between
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaM46Jp6jdg
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN5A9DIlmvc
that things started going sideways for her, before that it was stable.

>>23672166
This. What the fuck is Ame time? Bitch tell us when you're streaming.

>>23671143
So another holo gold today

>>23671143
Not as strong a lineup as day yesterday, guessing the biggest pull is gonna be La+ or Kanata.

>>23672474
Here is the same chart for Gura. Slight dip more or less around the time it happened for Ame, from a 500-700k range to a 400-600k range now.
Was absolutely stable every since the end of the debut buff.

>>23672953
>>23672474
Here, with just the 500k line to highlight the change

>>23672474
>>23672953
Older VODs will have slightly higher views compared to newer VODs just because they've been public for a longer time, right?
Not necesarily a significant amount but even if no recline is present the chart will be slightly heavier on the left side?

Ina got 10k with a fucking kiddie game.

>>23673385
>10k
The Ina'nis classic

>>23673385
It's star wars

>Fauna has superchat reading followed up by unspecified game after
managers should seriously slap them away from some of these stream ideas

>>23673385
She got 10k talking about computer problems

>>23673110
That’s why the 15 streams median. For a true daily streamer that would be 15 days, for Gura and Ame, about 25 days.

>>23673487
Skyrim

Very close to 1M.
https://youtu.be/npVP58NvdQ8
https://youtu.be/6W749jRBg-4
https://youtu.be/kKqcQADSoIM

>>23673487
she does it all the time with goi or whatever game is stuck in her head. in this case skyrim

So what the hell is michael cat doing? She revealed a l2d avatar made in pretty much record time and then..didn't stream for 2 weeks?

>>23673744
She did member streams. Freeloaders who don't pay aren't worthy of her content. She culls the poor.

>>23673744
she got it and then immidiatly the whole Genshin drama happened right? still think she started streaming way to soon for her mental health, but it definately gave her numbers.

>>23673801
I don't like her, but based af

>>23673434
It takes a huge debuff to drive away takos. Wonderful 101 and that last random game she played were enough but takes serious effort. Random chats, her eating food, drawing, all will get 10K. She's not stable octopus tip for nothing

Man why did Fauna have to overlap and why the fuck are 2k people watching a super reading

>>23673982
It's cute, she excited about her original song and loves her m8s

>>23673487
why would they care? they are getting the bag anyway
it's not like the girls have any competition that can threaten their viewership numbers
they know that no matter what, people will keep watching them

>>23673982
She tangents, so it's interesting.

>>23673801
Even then, she only did it twice.
I'm not on Twitter or Twitcast to know if she did more there.

>>23673434
Sometimes, I dream of numberfag Ina, who draws slightly lewd Holo art on stream and cares about her numbers. Of course I still prefer the real thing, but sometimes I wonder how high she could go if she had tried, or even stooped to Vox's level.

>>23674206
Any Holo who stoops to Vox's level would never get into Holo at all.

>>23673599
That pisses me off to an unimaginable extent.
This is the profession where these girls splurge a thousand bucks on gacha pulls (and sometimes make five times that in the same stream), is it so difficult in the US to find the ABSOLUTE BEST tech support for business that, for (let’s say) a two thousand bucks fee, tune your computer to perfection?

>>23674249
Anon she did splurge on her computer, it still fucked up. She has a 3090 for fuck's sake.

>>23673744
She should do a cover of this https://youtu.be/IL35V9wYr-U
Would be a bit of stretch for her singing skill but if she plays the yandere part perfectly with her new avatar, it will break her hana ni bourei numbers.

>>23674249
It wasn't about tuning, she had hardware problems. Replaced her RAM, motherboard and some other stuff don't remember she was just rambling. Though with the money she's making she should just have a backup pc at all times.

>>23674206
>Sometimes, I dream of numberfag Ina, who draws slightly lewd Holo art on stream and cares about her numbers
You mean EN-Marine?
https://youtu.be/Q8-h5qGKizU

>>23673385
Picrel

That reminds me something about kids channels.
CookieSwirlC's vtuber debut had 200k views 2 days after she debut and so did her next video.
Since, both have passed 1 million views.
Showing that, yes, children watch vods a lot.
https://youtu.be/StnCa_xhJTg
https://youtu.be/c9FEjqxzWzg

>>23674576
>No pic
Fucks sake, this site file browser barely works.

>>23674512
Basically yes

>>23674576
Yes anon, we already know about these channels farming kiddie views. These aren't VODS as in big chunky streams with gameplay though so meh

>>23674576
Children just watch videos on repeat, they can watch the same video a hundred times per day, something that would drive an adult insane.

>>23674576
Isn't the whole idea of youtube kids that you just put it infront of the kid and let that shit autoplay? think that was one of the reason those cursed Elsa videos caused so much uproar.

>>23674576
speaking of cookie, her recent video was about a Chillas kusoge, you know the games japanese vtubers like to play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgiOW_4tbbk

>>23674249
ina's main issue seems to be internet-based and i don't see here moving anytime soon

>>23674291
>Anon she did splurge on her computer, it still fucked up
>>23674405
>It wasn't about tuning, she had hardware problems. Replaced her RAM, motherboard and some other stuff
My point isn’t the hardware purchase but the girls either doing the tech work by themselves or using “genius bar” tier consumer level professional help.

I’m sure there are companies out there that, for a fee, will pick your computer up and either fix the software problem or replace the parts and return it to you with a guarantee of both fitness for purpose and confidentiality.

>>23674717
>58k views
jesas

ame just need to play vr horror game and will get numbers easily if those even exist of course.
outside that she needs to pick a timeslot
she did surprisinly fine with detective grimore during EU hours and they got 14k on that monopoly at 2am.
Ame fanabse right now is to sparese across timeslots.

EN gold?

>>23675245

>>23675266
What the fuck? Why does she have so many views?

>>23675266
Someone botting her? or the raid function?

>>23675266
Prism is not a small corpo anymore

>>23675266
>>23675357
It's a raid bug...

>>23675266
what

>>23675337
She seems to have no fucking idea. Her chat thinks its the algorithm, but the chat is going waaaaaay too slow to be actually anywhere near the 19 fucking k it currently is.

>>23675266
>19K
WTF

>>23675266
>>23675357
Context?

>>23675381
are prism dwellers botting her?

I feel so bad for her. Jesus christ she doesn't evne believe it because it's actually unbelievable

>>23675381
Bots. It’s that Koron Ch. APEX 10k again.

She ended up with about 1.3k VOD afterwards. Watch as the same happen here

>>23675381 is the most damning evidence that there's something fishy. Her chat is her usual speed. Poor girl.

Yeah its a glitch, the poll is not producing any numbers at all. Or is someone testing botting on her?
Goddamn youtube pajeets.

/#/ is declining.

>>23675381
is there anything that tracks prism so we can see the graph

Boll just barely reached 200 votes but she's at 22k. Poor girl actually freaking out at this. Hopefully its just pajeets and not botting.

>>23675266
Can we see the graph?

It's just Sony funneling their employees to her channel

>>23675544
so who is testing their bots then

>24k CCV
>5.6k lives
>220 votes in the poll
I'm glad everyone is embracing the NijiEN botting meta!

>>23675544
We've accepted bot results before. Prism gold!

PRISM GOLD
>PRISM GOLD
PRISM GOLD
>PRISM GOLD

>>23675544
this better be put on the tally

>>23675621
Sony spending $11 for a faux-viral moment that attracts actual attention to their best newly acquired streamer.

the fuck

>>23675653
Eh, why not? If we accept NijiCN view farmed numbers, might as well accept this.

>there are no snake lewds
dam shame

>>23675714
>their best newly acquired streamer
Who she?

>>23675651
Are the likes getting botted too because that seems real high

Who the fuck is bullying the snek?

>>23675742
The snake girl people are talking about. She's basically Sana with an amazing model and a nicer more understandable accent.

FINALLY OTHERS WINS THE PARALYMPICS!
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

>>23675722
So these bots are staying for way longer than the 11$ ones right? is this a viewfarm someone is testing or something?

>>23675725
We've also accepted youtube fuckery lowering numbers, so if raid fuckery is messing with her stream then it is legal.

>>23675801
for the prices of 11$
YOUR OSHI CAN WIN THE PARALYMPICS TOO

>>23675801
At the rate she's going she might win normal gold unless she ends. This growth isn't plateuing since it's either someone testing bots or youtube CCV broken (again).

Are they getting culled? Because otherwise it would mean Youtube has a whitelist of bots.
No, I won't take my meds.

Registered

>>23675824
she thinks its being embed somewhere.

TOO THE MOON BABY

man i wish she could actually real win gold

It pisses me off how these faggots at youtube JP are biased when it comes to their trending page.
Marine's new MV which was a huge investment was number 1 trending for 1 day after which it got relegated to like 15th the second day and 40th the third day.
A silly nijisanji quiz show is at fucking number 2 still after two days. Biased youtube niggers.
Same with twitter, why does nijisanji have a fucking topic and hololive does not?

28k now.. WHAT THE FUCK

at this rate she might get overall gold

>>23675887
Aren't we pretty sure embed views does not work for youtube ccv though?

>>23675846
She said she was ending in 40 minutes, like 10 minutes ago.

Kek you motherfuckers numberfag this broken site?

>>23675887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOPl6suLE5s
Mia's doing a supporting stream too

Also, i didn't know Prism had 3D models

>>23675887
Poor girl doesn't know youtube doesn't count embeds.

is this proof that CCV is a useless metric and that VOD views are much more reliabe?

>>23675930
>>23675887
If it appears on their Live page, then it's definitely top-brass influence.

CCV only 3 times bigger than her subs!
VOD is going to be interesting.

>>23675962
what about holodex isn't that an embed?

>>23675930
they only work if you play it
autoplay doesnt get counted.

>>23675940
We've known YT numbers are loser to imaginary than reality for a long time.

There was some consistency though.

>>23675950
She made it herself, not prism

>>23675926
vtuber gold? youtube gold? Why aim so low?

Does vrabi track Prism member?

>>23675972
>29k ccv
>5.6k likes
>3k vod views
kek fuck u susan

>>23675940
>Kek you motherfuckers numberfag this broken site?
Yeah....

Poll had about 290 votes. Could it be that youtube is just literally displaying things x10 or some shit?

Somehow even the VOD views are lower than the likes kek.

>>23676027
no

>>23676027
no, are there any sites that do track them

It's not acting like Millie's at all this is fucking wild

>>23676061
lol
lmao

>>23676036
So uh...if it's bots...why are they liking the stream? Did that happen with Millie?

its going up again
this will get gold for sure
man what the fuck LMAO

>>23676077
Poyo for like 2 weeks...

Sony I kneel

>>23676125
no, it's going down now

>>23676112
If you aren't aware,
you can buy likes too.

>INA MOGGED
INA MOGGED
>INA MOGGED
INA MOGGED

>>23676112
It could be a view farm instead. Likes have not gone up for like 30 minutes, I've monitored a 10k ccv incline with no extra likes since it got 5.6k

>this is the power fo sony
I KNEEL
I WILL BUY A PS5 NOW

>>23676112
Not sure. Millie's botted stream only has 2.5k likes so none of the bos liked it, also only has 17k views, which is completely in line with her normal views so Youtube basically disqualified all the bots from counting on the VOD. If Sara's VOD is high after it ends we'll know something even weirder is up.

>>23675858
It's because those bots haven't hurting the feelings of the Chinese people. HoloDrones (despite being real people) are flagged but wheelbarrows are real. This is also why Luxiem is unculled. Susan respects a nation's sovereignty. COVER doesn't.

>>23676204
this clearly isn't the same service as the one that was used on millie's

See guys, this is what actual view-botting looks liek

Some 2view winning gold from some weird glitch/bots/whatever the fuck this is would be the weirdest way of killing off /#/

>>23676204
Millie's botted stream was one goddamn service on the big wide internet. Stop always comparing to it, its meaningless.

>>23676003
>There was some consistency though.
Was there? I have never seen anybody provide any kind of explanation for how its calculated that actually checks out, it always seemed completely arbitrary.