/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>23584270
I wonder how Cover decides who becomes their sponsorship magnet. La Plus seems to it for Holo X, Kiara to some extent for Myth (she's due to appear as a character in WoWs as well), I'd say Botan for Gen 5 but Cover seems to spoil Gen 5 the most in general. Gen 4 is Watame, Gen 3 is everyone but Flare. Gen 2 is Aqua/Suba, Gen 1 is Fubuki/Aki.

Is there a reason why NijiEN is so bad at getting sponsorship when their branch is on the rise?
Even Kiara and Ina got fearured with Laplus and Pekora.

Reposting for posterity

https://note.com/kojiro001/n/n43706ace6bda

>He thinks Anycolor are contradicting themselves when they state that since most of their revenue (50%) comes from the biggest 10-25 Nijisanji members, a possible graduation of those popular members can cause a big problem for the company's future and new recruits are not as successful or take time to gather a sizeable audience but then they turn around stating that they don't think that is a problem(?).
>He brings up possible risks that arise from Nijisanji member's actions like the recent Lauren and Luca cases.
>He points at Melissa's graduation and the reasons behind it, the failure to come to an agreement for Melissa's music rights between her and Anycolor, as a potential future problem, not only for Anycolor but also for other companies like Cover. He also talks about his worries in general about how much of a vtuber's work and the rights around it benefit mostly the corporations.
>He brings up the very high profit margin that Anycolor reported (31%) and compares it with other entertainment companies that are active in the stock market, from older reports though (UUUM at 3,5% , Yoshimoto Kogyo and HoriPro at 11%). He believes that Anycolor has high profit margin because they don't spend enough money to support and remunerate their talents and that can cost them in the future.
>Lastly, he points to a 2018 interview with Riku where Riku mentions his past failed business ventures, before Anycolor and Nijisanji, and how he saw his involvement in a vtuber company as an opportunity for short-term success, also mentioning that he's like that as a person in general, someone that focuses on short-term rather than long-term, and how he doesn't appear to have a lot of faith and passion in vtubers but sees it as something temporary that may not be popular in the future. He compairs him with Yagoo, someone that is passionate about vtubers and is trying to move this particular industry forward instead of looking for short-term gains.

>>23584565
Who is the one who wrote this?

>>23584555
because Niji doesn't care about EN

>>23584509
It's not Cover to decide. They pitch all of the Gens to sponsors and the sponsors will pick out who they like.

>>23584509
>La Plus seems to it for Holo X
Why not Koyori? Is she too busy?

>>23584509
For Kiara it's willingness to do sponsorships and ability to speak Japanese. Vtubers and even anime is still niche in the EN speaking world, there's only so many sponsorships to be had. Gura and Ame straight up dislike them. Ina will do art stuff sometimes but she's too busy to just do random stuff. Mori is also super busy but she's the 2nd most sponsored simply because she's also willing to do them.

>>23584555
You need a western audience for western sponsorships.

>>23584628
unironically because she streams too much and won't have time for sponsored work off-stream.

>>23584555
They're getting a lot of Chinese sponsorships though? Mihoyo, CN games, they're apparently even getting Chinese fan-made visual novels? (I didn't see any link yet, so take that with a grain of salt).

>>23584555
NijiEN viewers are fujos. As u can see from the ccv for their game stream, fujo dont play game

>>23584555
It's because of their demographics. The people they are popular with aren't the type that buy stuff traditionally shilled by vtubers. I do expect them to start shilling Chinese gachas and stuff, maybe VNs, soon enough. The non-Luxiem ones aren't big enough to be much of a draw but they still do occasionally get some low end stuff as sponsors.

>>23584683
Anon, HoloEN got put into games while NijiEN has none.

>>23584634
I recall that’s also the reason Kiara gets pushed on the main channel as well. She mentioned once that management really loves that she responds right away.
>>23584683
Luxiem is gonna be fine I think. Anycolor already hooking them up with a cafe collab in Japan. Girls will fight for SC earnings.

>>23584638
No wonder NijiEN got invites to cheap ass cons while HoloEN are about to appear in major ones like Anime Expo and Anime Boston.

>>23584707
I can see Luxiem's future sponsored stream are on bilibili more than on youtube.

>>23584722
I should probably ask when one of the zhang fujos come raiding I guess.

>>23584555
no west audience + no new chinkshit

>>23584565
Speaking of IPOs, did the talents recived stock compensation or is that purely Riku dumping all his shares.

>>23584628
Koyo is quite bad in game, so any game sponsor will probably avoid her. I actually dont see any type of sponsor that will prefer her since holojp has other big hitter that can shill better n have big audience

>>23584565
Riku's probably right. Vtubers will likely continue to be a thing into the future but I don't see any one company being popular 5, 10, 20 years in the future. Something else will come along and steal the spotlight eventually, just like with Ai and all those others early era vtubers that got left in the dust at this point, or any of the multitude of regular streamers that were mega popular and then fell to earth in under 5 years.

>>23584782
I saw the OffKai thing and it was really pathetic looking ngl.

>>23584782
NijiEN actually got invited last year to AX (online). There still hasn’t been an announcement if they got reinvited this year.

>>23584628
honestly?
probably, laplus has alot of time for recording, which she apparently does alot

>>23584863
Lazulight still got to be the headliners over Ironmouse/Melody/Bao and some 2-views from Prism/Phase.

>>23584849
That's because he doesn't do enough to diversify and expand the vtuber filed further.
Look at Yagoo, look at what is doing. Cover is making games, building a metaverse and actively improvibg VR tech. The company is trying to shed that pure streaming image to go into other fields.

>>23584626
No, it depends on the company and the type of sponsorship they're offering. Some request the talent directly like Aqua eating sushi and for others it's Cover determining who they select to do it like the Pacific Racing and the Skytree collabs. Some of the girls have even said that there are sponsorships which were open to everyone and management was simply waiting for the girls themselves to apply.

>>23584884
Nah content for main channel or sponsor are decided way before. So it just that koyo is not suitable for the content or sponsor. Or la+ is the favourite in gen5 since she is more popular

>>23584876
Anime Expo this year is a physical one and the con already announced its floor plan.
Hololive got a big booth next to Bushiroad and other big companies. Vshojo also got one, but it's far back.
NijiEN got none.

>>23584812
43% from Riku is a lot. I would've assumed he shared those stocks with top tiers of the company like MiTo, Kuzuha or Toya to make they stay commited to the job but it doesn't look like it. Even FBK and Sora has a stake in Cover along with A-chan. Nothing will happen to Cover if those three are still there.

>>23584849
There's so much stuff 3D and concerts could provide when you're going global. It won't last liKe Ai even when she had the best tech.

>>23584985
When china do an anime expo, nijiEN will have the biggest booth

>>23584971
Why would Koyori need sponaorships when she has her liyal viewers? Like, a vtuber's job is to stream, not shilling products that would get them nothing but few pennies.
And doing constant sponsorship will cause you to lose an audience so why bother.

>>23584985
Doesn’t seem like they got invited to Anime Central this year.

>>23584626
Where's Gura's sponsorships then? Why does a failure like Kiara get all of the sponsorships?

>>23584999
>Even FBK and Sora has a stake in Cover along with A-chan
Do give a source, this is exactly the type of stuff that gets made up and then parroted over and over here.

>>23584999
I wonder what's best for Fubuki when she wants to retire but at the same time doesn't want to hurt Hololive because she just feel like it's the right time to rest her career not because having bad faith with Cover.

Remember if anyone says anything about people who get 4 digits on the regular being a failure or flopping, he's suffering from terminal numberrot. Please do not take any of his statements at face value and forcefeed him meds

>>23584555
Are they getting new outfits, is this going to be similar to the Valkerie Connect sponsorship that the Niji girls received?
https://youtu.be/ju7kKGBzysY?t=966

>>23585059
Gura doesn't speak japanese

>>23585052
No, HoloEN got invited actually.

>>23584999
>>23584812
I very much doubt it, because why would he? You don't get rich by giving money away like that

>>23585059
The answer is simple
>Gura doesn't want to take up the sponsorships being offered
How hard is that to understand? She's picked up some that have interested her, but she doesn't take up sponsorships if she doesn't care about them in some capacity.

>>23584817
Koyori had a game stream sponsorship 2 days ago...

>>23585080
Probably transition to some management role where she doesn’t really do much but show up on the main channel every once in a while.

>>23585080
State as such.
Like, unless she moves to a consulting/management spot there's no clean way to stop streaming entirely and NOT have rrats going everywhere.

>>23585101
because they have an audience unlike chinksanji

>>23585047
R u stupid anon, sponsor give alot of money than superchat. Koyo superchat is not that impressive as well. If her fans are that loyal they should watch her shill stream to support her.

So have the male waves devalued the females that much? Did those anime conventions expect the NijiEN girls to match Hololive's views by now? Is Nijisanji just too busy or do they not care?

>>23585047
>a vtuber's job is to stream, not shilling products
This is corpo vtubing

>>23585170
You bit the bait, YOU FOOL.
Anyone who says
>Sponsorships don't matter
Is 100% baiting and you went for it.

>>23585118
Now I'm really curious about the auction charity, wonder if there's any sponsorship involved.
I don't think Cover has done similar charity in the past and it feels like there is a lot to arrange in the backstage.

>>23585101
I think Hololive will start touring the cons this year as well. And mayve announcing something special at the end of HoloMeet project.

>>23585059
>Speak japanese
>Historically VERY good at shilling thing
>For stuff like WoW, she does german voice lines (speak german)
>For stuff like ToA, showed a lot of appreciation for Tales of (and that one girl at bamco was doxed as a KFP, so that's just KFP abusing their power)

>>23585167
Is Anime NYC the 2nd largest anime con in NA?

>>23585199
You still beliege it will happen? The statue is probably being rotted somewhere and Cover has been silent since last month.

>>23585080
She'll get a new OL outfit (as tradition) and announce that she's moving into management.
Her channel will probably still be up but she won't stream there as much, and will start helping out A-chan with main channel stuff (which honestly, she's already doing a lot).

>>23585079
FBK owns shares in Cover was originally a Chinese cope for why she "betrayed" them by standing up for Coco. There is no evidence for it.

>>23585229
No, it's actually AnimeFest. AnimeNYC was kinda small.

>>23585204
Con season is barely beginning and their HoloMeets announcement implied that there are more conventions that haven’t been announced yet.
Wouldn’t doubt they get invited back to AnimeNYC since they were the largest crowd they ever had apparently.
>>23585229
Second or third, I forget.

>>23585216
Ina and Kiara speak JP And legitimately enjoy gacha games. I don't think Gura or Ame play them and Mori probably doesn't even know what they are. Kiara will shill like crazy and Ina will do some drawing streams. And given she's done like 8-9 characters in top tier gachas as well and dozens of illustrations they are the perfect pair for a sponsorship like this

I feel bad for the nijigirls, man

>>23585080
She's like 30 what the fuck does she need to retire for? If she doesn't want to do regular streaming just shift to an irregular schedule and go more into production stuff or whatever else she wants to do.

>>23585079
it's mostly speculation, but considering how FBK seems to bat for most of Cover's decisions - including doing PR cleanup for certain firings - it's a pretty solid rrat.

>>23585264
Then what is the point of introducing Nodoka? I mean, she was Ai chan but it's just stupid to put her in that role.

i just want the casual outfits for holox and council AND irys
is already time

>>23585047
Hololive members are not just “vtubers”; They’re idols. You know what idols do right? They sing, dance, perform and are picked up for sponsors and advertisements to shill products. Like anon, that’s quite literally the life of every single artist/musician/actor etc. on planet earth. You don’t step into this position and expect to not be utilized in more ways than one. Even Pekora has duties outside of streaming.

>>23585059
Gura’s been sponsored by Taco Bell and is officially a navigator in a rhythm game, a game genre which Gura is specifically known for. And she’s just been appointed as an ambassador for the upcoming Hololive Meet project which involves her being active in upcoming projects by Hololive, which is by proxy as “faux-sponsorship” as she’s promoting various conventions/meets.

The sponsors are there. It’s just not blatant shit like shilling a game every week.

>>23585302
Is a chinese rrat unironically

>>23585293
Aside from Coco's very unique situation, why would you ever retire? If Fubuki dropped to 2 streams a month she would still do fine and be under no pressure. She could take a 6 month break and come back for a six figure return stream or save it for Holofes10 and drive hype through the roof. It's basically a modest free income for decades if they play their cards right

>>23585047
Once more for the retards at home

>>23584849
Hololive is like 2018 AI, only they can kill themselves.
AI's death was a slow, rotting one, over the course of two fucking years of festering rrats.
Holo hasn't shown any signs of it yet, and unless their vanity projects bomb so much that holofans start treating it like Omega, they have the potential to last at least 10-15 years, maybe more.

>>23585304
I dont know why but i think irys will look hideous in casual outfit. Her face is just too ugly

>>23584565
Ohh nice report. It's good to stop by in numbers once in a while.

>>23585204
the koreans are trying to draft kiara and bae to seoul popcon

>>23585361
I always laugh at this, no wonder Riku is beatibg Yagoo at his own game. If you start treating vtuber industry like some sort of long con, you will wake up realize what a dumbass you were.

>VSPO getting baseball sponsorship
Ain't this Nijisanji's thing?

https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1521308653755633664?s=20&t=LLqeuJ30bAAaCM-T4YytLA

>>23585268
Ha, that figures. Never believe anything you read here without a source.

>>23585302
That's not how it works, it's a pretty wild claim to make based just on someone being a bit of a yes-man.

>>23585424
Remember: The image that killed kizuna Ai

If holox actually got a new outfit. Will they get backlash like their new year outfit since irys n council didnt get any yet

>>23585333
Sucks for Gura that even though the publisher changed for Muse Dash global, the JP side is still published by chinks so she’ll never get to play it (EN aren’t allowed to play games JP don’t have perms for).

>>23585361
Remember: The image that killed kizuna Ai

>>23584626
I'm pretty sure it's the opposite, companies come with sponsorship ideas, and they're pitched to the talent.
Talents themselves have favorite stuff, and so if they get a sponsorship from their favorite company, they will gladly take it.
Can't wait for Towa and Herman Miller sponsorship kek

>>23585361
The problem with AI is that is was basically a single point of failure. For Hololive the chink saga ironically forged a very strong brand identity that the talent and fans could rally around, and even after losing their two biggest SC earners it didn't really affect them much. It was actually astonishing what a minor roadbump axing Rushia was, in retrospect. They just dropped the hammer and everyone accepted it was probably because she was a moron and moved on

>>23585413
In the HoloMeet press release, Cover teased about appearing in overseas cons as well so we might see Hololive in other non-NA countries.

>>23585451
no

>>23585356
But /vt/ told me dead subs don't matter

>>23585424
>Riku is beatibg Yagoo at his own game
EVERYONE POINT AND LAUGH

>>23585304
Yeah but instead this is what’s gonna happen:
>HoloX 3D
>Council “consolidation” outfits because boy it’s nice not being able to get put in the box
>Irys forgotten once again and left in the dust

>>23585435
Anon...
Nijisanji's baseball thing is specifically their big powerpro tourney at the end of July/early August.

>>23585451
if holox get an outift council probably follows soon just like the new eyars outfits.
IRys tough is a problem becasue who the fuck knows what redjuice is doing.

>>23585413
I saw they’re having a campaign to get them to Korean conventions.

>>23585451
Cover can survive almost anything if the talent are on board and work to wrangle their tard fanbases. If Irys, Kronii, etc just said "Oh we have outfits in the works but due to some outside factors they have been a little delayed, but we are super happy for HoloX" nothing would stick

>>23585216
>and that one girl at bamco was doxed as a KFP
qrd?

>>23585485
retard, this is twitch. the equivalent is members

>>23585301
I'm talking about far FAR into the future dude.
Nodoka will be as old as A-chan by the time Fubuki thinks of retiring.

>>23585459
Yeah it sucks. She’s repeatedly said it’s her favorite (rhythm) game to play and that one in particular jumpstarted her streaming career. The views on her muse dash clips are unreal. If she were to ever be allowed to play it again… man…

>>23585059
You guys forget an important point that Gura fucking hate being in the sportlight.

>>23584744
Yeah appearing connected and responsive to management is very important to opportunities. It reminds me of a clip that got bought up by the nips when Rushia got fired. It was a collab in Minecraft with Towa quite a while ago and Rushia was whining about management and how she just ignores them. Towa told her off, saying that if she keeps doing that they'll dislike her and she should make it part of her routine like Towa does, going through all her messages and replying to people each morning. A job like this is a two way street.

>>23585440
Honestly, it's a good thing if some of the girls have some company stake.
Means they can influence company decisions and at least ensure that no one gets fucked over.
as long as no shitty cliques start to form off it

Nijisanji's operations as a business are painful to watch compared to Hololive, man

>>23585560
Maybe she can cater to China. Respectful people are always welcome.

>>23585612
and Hololive operations as tech company are painful to watch compared to literally every other company including indies

>>23585489
I mean, Riku's pretty smart about it, he's sold only half of his stakes so he gets a bunch of cash to invest in Niji projects that interest him, and if that doesn't work out he can cash out the rest of his stakes and do something else with it.
It's only really bad for the livers.

>>23585648
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>WHEN I SAY “ELDENSCHIZO” YOU SAY “LAMY SLOT”
ELD-, wait what?

>>23585612
NijiEN juat headlined a major convention with a concert and Luxiem is going ro headline another NA convention.
I don't think HoloEN even achieved that.

>>23585612
It could be worse. At least, it's not that bad compared to other vtuber companies

>>23585413
>ignore the two actual ethnic Koreans that speak Korean
>go for the two who show an actual interest in your culture/language

>>23585683
>offkai
>major convention
uh?

>>23585648
>and Hololive operations as tech company
>Hololive
>tech company
If Cover hiring the cream of the crop in AR technology for their Holofes didn’t show you that they moved way past attempting to be a tech company and went fully into being an entertainment company, well, nothing will.

>>23585655
Riku will always be a smarter businessman because he put his head above his feelings.
In this industry, you care about making the most money, not furthering the industry because this industry is a shortlived one.

>>23585689
i think some of them might be asking for kronii but ya know the coof. dunno about ina. both kiara and bae said something on stream from sc's asking about it.

>>23585683
>a major convention

>>23585108
Startup tech companies would offer those stock compensation plus an average/below average pay during hiring process. If that's the case, I feel bad for King for not being able to cash out a huge paycheck after going public.

>>23585697
AnimeFest anon, the con got a 10-20k gate last year, bigger than anything else HoloEN has done before.

>>23585501
If only irys can push the management, cover should choose artist that actually want to be holomama/papa n accept the vtuber opinions

>>23585732
Oh is it this week? It's a bit late to get any of them there if they haven't already committed to it. Australia is basically a giant prison still, Kiara is getting ready for another vacation soon, Ina would take 6 months to prepare, and Kronii is Kronii.

>>23585683
.... bruh
Need med?

>>23585773
Nah, the request period ends this week iirc.

>>23585767
>10-20k gate last year,
Anon…

>>23585462
She gets the kitkat esports sponsor and I will laugh for days

>>23584817
this was 2 days ago, the game's not even out yet
she's had several shill streams already, she even got chosen to be one of the two that actually got to be paid for pokemon arceus
also cover had her be part of one of the streams where they got mentored by a VA just like Laplus did a while ago just last week, as part of the FC shit, she gets more shit than, idk, iroha or chloe

>>23585767
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*inhales*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>23585612
Well technically it's quite good if you only think of short-term profit. Enter the industry, flood it with bunch of talents (their commodities), make a name of themselves and monopolize the industry if possible, wait until one of bigger corpos take notice and then simply cash out. Looking back to 2018~2019 you can see that it's quite effective, Nijisanji pretty much held the market after .LIVE and AI imploded. Of course going this way you give literally no shit to the Vtuber industry as a whole though, you only care to make money.

>>23585767
Is the guest list finalized? Seems kind of...weak for being as big as you say it is. Luxiem, some dub actors, and a twitch vtuber I've never heard of. Even that Offkai thing got Ironmouse to come.

>HoloEN
>https://gamebiz.jp/news/337914
>The "hololive English - Council - Anime NYC Special Panel", the first panel after the start of Anime NYC, was so popular that a long line of people formed a few hours before the event, filling the 2300 seat main hall. It was so popular that people lined up hours in advance.

>The event, which started 30 minutes late in a packed venue with NTV's broadcast coverage, still had an impassable line outside the panel room even after it started, and (as reported in the second article) even after three hours of waiting, you couldn't even get into the Javits Center venue itself, let alone the panel room! Fans were asking, "How am I supposed to watch hololive?" "Please send me pictures of what's going on! and "Send me what's going on inside!" were some of the screaming posts on Twitter.

>>23585801

>>23585801
That reminds me, apparently Kiara is doing 2-3 meet and greet sessions this year for Dokomi along with a KFP food stall or whatever they plan on doing food wise.

>>23584392
>>23584427
o h god i am cumming

>>23585870
2 meet and greet
The food stall isn't confirmed yet
And a concert

>>23585462
yamaha gave luna electone sponsorship
and forgot who got the mixer/steamer setup shill stream
ame goxlr shill stream when? also, didn't gura got two other holos to buy herman miller chairs?

>>23585845
Luxiem is the one headlining this major US convention. Not bad for a "niche" group in NA huh?

>>23585269
So nijisanji > hololive

>Numberfagging conventions attendance
Man, I wonder what's the next step. What's the ratio of males and females in the venue?

>>23585932
total tonnage of attendees would be a better metric

>>23585924
Yeah, basically the case. There were arealy more hypes for AnimeFest than Anime Boston and ACen.

>>23585465
It's about the pattern of behavior that the fans see and make note of.

Just check that Holocaust video linked above, EVERYONE was shitting on Cover for this, and back then hating on Cover for their decisions was very common. They built up their reputation over several decisions.

1. Kaoru was an unfortunate case, which was accepted by the talents (and no one caring much for the homos).
2. Aloe never badmouthed them and insisted that they tried to help her multiple times.
3. They explicitly admitted that they mishandled the Taiwan yab and Yagoo took a pay cut and a public tongue lashing for it (not often seen from Japanese companies) which did a lot for fan goodwill.
4. Coco herself ran PR for them in the leadup to her graduation (that was probably the one event which could have ended Cover for good if they mishandled it).
5. Rushia could have been bad if the talents weren't united about the decision (lending credence to the rrat that she did something VERY bad behind the scenes). Mori almost fucked it up, leading to the EOP being split about her termination.

Meanwhile Anycolor -

1. Gibara graduates to "greener pastures" but just goes back into streaming.
2. Lulu graduates because they didn't let her fucking stream in order to build an ego trip court case.
3. Their handling of the entire Meiro debacle.
4. Roa is STILL MIA running her court case and losing fans and mindshare with every passing month.
5. Everything about NijiIN and NijiKR.
Ibrahim's video editing fuckup which he blasted them for because he knew he would get flamed if he didn't say anything about it.
6. Melissa's open dissatisfaction with management.

There's probably a lot more on the list (Moruru for example) but fans can see the pattern. Even on the Nijisanji thread in /jp/ they shit on Anycolor for a lot of their decisions (just like we used to for Cover).

HololiveEN

2021
>AnimeEXPO 100k-120k
>AnimeNYC 53k
>DoKomi 55k
>Fan EXPO Dallas 50k
>Fan EXPO Boston 50k
>Fan EXPO Canada 100k+
>MEGACON Orlando 120k
>Calgary EXPO 95k

2022
>Anime Central 32k
>Anime Boston 25k
>DoKomi 55k
>SMASH! Sydney 22k+
>AnimeEXPO 100k-120k

>>23585959
Instead of foul stench cominh from Hololive panel, the Luxiem turns into a flower garden full of pretty Asian petites. Ngl, getiing my Trojan box ready for that time.

>>23585465
>>23585465
It's about the pattern of behavior that the fans see and make note of.

Just check that Holocaust video linked above, EVERYONE was shitting on Cover for this, and back then hating on Cover for their decisions was very common. They built up their reputation over several decisions.

1. Kaoru was an unfortunate case, which was accepted by the talents (and no one caring much for the homos).
2. Aloe never badmouthed them and insisted that they tried to help her multiple times.
3. They explicitly admitted that they mishandled the Taiwan yab and Yagoo took a pay cut and a public tongue lashing for it (not often seen from Japanese companies) which did a lot for fan goodwill.
4. Coco herself ran PR for them in the leadup to her graduation (that was probably the one event which could have ended Cover for good if they mishandled it).
5. Rushia could have been bad if the talents weren't united about the decision (lending credence to the rrat that she did something VERY bad behind the scenes). Mori almost fucked it up, leading to the EOP being split about her termination.

Meanwhile Anycolor -

1. Gibara graduates to "greener pastures" but just goes back into streaming.
2. Lulu graduates because they didn't let her fucking stream in order to build an ego trip court case.
3. Their handling of the entire Meiro debacle.
4. Roa is STILL MIA running her court case and losing fans and mindshare with every passing month.
5. Everything about NijiIN and NijiKR.
6. Ibrahim's video editing fuckup which he blasted them for because he knew he would get flamed if he didn't say anything about it.
7. Melissa's open dissatisfaction with management.

There's probably a lot more on the list (Moruru for example) but fans can see the pattern. Even on the Nijisanji thread in /jp/ they shit on Anycolor for a lot of their decisions (just like we used to for Cover).

>>23585969
How could you forget the nipple.

>>23585987
Early in the year too, so a lot of the conventions for the summer haven't been annoucned yet. Will definitely see more pop up in the next few months.

>>23585858
defautl Irys looks so done with life lmao

>>23585998
never been to a fujo centric con i take it?

>>23586026
Doomerys....

>>23582269
>>23582269
>>23582269
/#/ is expanding

>>23586025
I wish at least some HoloJP members would come to the cons.

>>23585916
>see the vtuber guest
>luxiem
>https://twitchtracker.com/jezebelvt
>https://twitchtracker.com/zanedase

i wouldnt call this major. but is a step forwaard tough.

>>23585998

>>23584565
> He compares him with Yagoo.

So.. Rent free?

>>23586058
Very bold of them to try to make an explicitly restricted thread like that.

>>23586058
is that why it's quieter today?

>>23585914
>mixer/steamer setup
Botan I think? Not completely sure though.
>spoiler
kek yeah, Holos sponsoring office chairs would be a hilarious dunk on all those shitty "gaming chair" sponsorships.
Gonna be difficult when they can't actually show their body sitting on it though lmao.

>>23586025
If cons are smart, they woukd invite Luxiem to get more eyes on.

>>23586071
Probably don't consider it worth the opportunity cost unless they do a big package deal

>>23586141
Well it's getting there, one of the sponsors for vsaikyou was Herman miller

Here are some numbers, slightly unrelated
> Pop Culture Has Become an Oligopoly
> A cartel of superstars has conquered culture. How did it happen, and what should we do about it?

https://experimentalhistory.substack.com/p/pop-culture-has-become-an-oligopoly

If they ran the numbers on the vtuber industry they would find the same conclusion: from a band of disconnected streamers and smallish companies to a pair of behemoths dominating practically the whole industry

>>23586141
would have to do it in 3d. they do make the 3d models for those chairs available

>>23586147
>invite chinese popular starts to american conventions
they were probably cheap givent the rest of the guests>>23586078

>>23584971
>la+
>gen5
How the hell one become this retarded?

>>23586147
why would they, they are not chinese

>>23586201
Or the cons see where the market is headong and they star there first. It looks like the meta is changing already anon.

>>23585914
>>23586141
Noel got the mixer sponsorship

>>23585998

>>23586241
yeah sure like how it change with lazulight inities last year.

O god there's quite a few GGW collab stream coming up today.

>>23586173
That's why I honestly want cover to take serious in the anime/manga business and just have Coco VA her character for an anime even if she graduated. It's stupid to keep changing plans for HoloAlt. Hololive as an anime would honestly be big with all the lore animated. And the best part is, we could actually do a watchalong with the anime itself and the streamer reacting.

>>23586078
>literally 2views
it makes sense on offkai but why are those 2 there?

>>23586198
Imagine
> Towa sits down (on herman miller)
clip getting 2M like that one Subaru clip

>>23586232
the post has barely passable english and also calls Koyori "not suitable for the content or sponsor" despite being the one with the most sponsorships and invitations after laplus, so who knows what's going on there

>>23586241
Really anon?
Luxiem didn't even succeeded in breaking into the western market, all their viewers come from Asian countries

>>23586137
Seemed relatively quiet throughout burgerland prime hours, which is when they should've been waking up. Sounds plausible to me.

>>23585844
> 13k VTubers in Japan alone
Jesus Christ, oversaturation is an understatement.

>>23584565
Interesting. I am now glad I didn't go to sleep before checking /#/.

>He thinks Anycolor are contradicting themselves when they state that since most of their revenue (50%) comes from the biggest 10-25 Nijisanji members, a possible graduation of those popular members can cause a big problem for the company's future and new recruits are not as successful or take time to gather a sizeable audience but then they turn around stating that they don't think that is a problem(?).
This one always jumps at me and it's what we have been saying for along time. Nijis have a top-heavy problem and have yet to produce a group that can push back against this. I can only wonder just how much did it cost them to lose Lulu of all people (and that outside of basically forcing her off the air for harassment shit for extended periods of time).
>He brings up the very high profit margin that Anycolor reported (31%) and compares it with other entertainment companies that are active in the stock market, from older reports though (UUUM at 3,5% , Yoshimoto Kogyo and HoriPro at 11%). He believes that Anycolor has high profit margin because they don't spend enough money to support and remunerate their talents and that can cost them in the future.
It struck me as odd as well, but you can see that it's correct. They should have cut that down to 10%margin and reinvested the rest in trying to help prop up their low/mid tier talent with creative projects in order to boost their company average CCV/VOD and drive engagement past just Kuzuha. It honestly seemed like a boneheaded move.

Everything else seems kinda common sense, which AnyColor seems to lack for some reason...

>>23586268
>Hololive as an anime would honestly be big with all the lore animated.
Anon, unless you want it to be Queen Bee tier of slideshow making a full 13 episodes 23 minutes per episode anime would set Cover back EASILY some 200k USD per episode and if they started doing it today you could have that season ready for Winter 2023 at the very earliest.

Think about it: Marine MV likely started production back when their 3rd gen paid live was broadcast and its a sub 10k animation.
Unless CyGames join in and use their existing PriConne anime for an Hololive crossover arc I’m not seeing any viability for a full Hololive anime.

>>23586011
Nipple was frankly on Lauren tbqh, but yeah the company's handling of it was dogshit as well.

>>23586492
Sub 10 minutes animation, I surely mean

>>23586241
wonder when Xi's foreign ambassador is gonna appear at an event with Vox.

https://youtu.be/DJv6CZZD8xM
Another la+

>>23586640
>with Miko too
fantastic

>>23586058
And we manage to build healthy discussion about numbers after they made their own general, really makes you think

Since Vshojo wants to clean their image and go mainstream, do you think they will kick Melody out?

>>23586759
they're already mainstream

>>23584427
non stop sex with the anime girl

>>23586759
Melody is the slut but she's the most respectable of them all. That move will be counterproductive.

>>23586750
The ID market is rather interesting right now. On Holo side, Kobo is atrracting a lot of ID viewers, mainly young guys. On Niji side, what sort of viewers does Mika have?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSvZ4J9ZR-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jg31bbhyLg
So the HoloX stream isn't going to be anything important since Marine decided to overlap it?

>>23586773
Really? How mainstream, like being able to hold their own concert, expo and being featured in games?

>>23586805
Luxiem's audience.

>>23586750
well I wouldn't says that, after all fujos still lurking, it's just a moment of tranquility and ID market is really interesting right now with Kobo

>>23586805
>On Niji side
They have ID branch? Stop shit posting you

>>23586842
If they crowdfund, they could get a concert, they will never have their own expo.

>>23586842
Vshojo got an Anime Expo booth so that counts right?

>>23586894
Kek, is Vshojo management that competent in any sense? TheGunRunbis busy shilling his backpack to care for anything else.

>>23586824
Miko too
https://youtu.be/EgSQSw37mA8

>>23586492
Anime generally tend to have sponsors for their production. That's why you often see random, nonsensical names in the OP/ED credits that have nothing to do with the anime or the industry in general. Then there are those that have the "Sony Music" type of embedded ad to promote the music of the production and the label of the distributor.

Queen Bee quality is practically impossible for high profile brand like this since everyone would be lining up to sponsor as soon as they make an open call...

>>23586896
>booth

>>23586824
could be in relation to the whole towa saga

>>23586951
Imo, there no reason to make an a one for Hololive unless there's some sort of final goal to advertise with it.
I know I've said it before so I'll say it again, using it as some big advertising push for a Live at one of the Big stadiums in Japan would make the most sense, since an advertising campaign for such a thing being bundled into the cost of the Anime would make it make way more sense than just an anime for the sake of an anime.

>>23586492
Remind me how easy it is for fucking FGO to get an anime because it's backed by Aniplex itself

>>23586824
>>23586926
So alll of them cant compete to win gold today. What a packed stream at 8pm

>>23586759
>do you think they will kick Melody out
She cofounded and owns the company so “kick her out” actually means “buy her out”.

>>23586842
>How mainstream
Were about to find out with their new hires.I s the brand strong enough to elevate a chuuba out of 2view status to a consistent 4 digits

>>23586993
Holy gibberish.
I meant "there is no reason to make a Hololive Anime" gods I hate phoneposting sometimes.

>>23586997
Fate, Princess Connect and Azur Lane animes (among others) are 23 minutes gacha weekly ads and they make more than their money back with their main product.

>>23587009
Will they "get" 2views? I thought they targeted kinda popular indies?

I just saw Sykkuno news about moving to YT. Do you think this will encourage more vtubers to switch platforms?

>>23586993
It's possible since HoloAlt animation hopefully this may/summer includes an anime announcement. They'll do the standard 12 episode seasonal anime and at the final episode, they will show a huge cliffhanger where the talents says that they're gonna do a concert together. The anime ends followed with a Yokohama stadium "Bloom 2" announcement at the end of summer (August).

>>23586993
>>23587011
I wasn't arguing in favor of making an anime, but explaining how it would go about production. It's literally easy money for the production committee if it's a popular brand.

>>23587060
With so many fierce competitions and HoloEN holding uts own audition, I doubt we will see big names.

>>23587107
Kek it's fucking true. Is this also a YouTube partnership?

>>23587107
No, the only twitch vtubers that would move are already successful

>>23587122
Why does this read like pure speculation to me?

>>23587177
Because it clearly is

Did NijiEN abandon NA expansion already? Doesn't seem like the girls are gaining much traction and the guys have moved onto Chinese time instead.

Whats make laplus popular other than cunny? She play debuff game n cant stream for more than 2 hour

>>23587366
she fits her character perfectly

>>23587366
Her zatsudan skills. She says hilarious things all the time.

>>23587249
now if the chinks disappear every branch is competing for the jp audience

>>23587434
That's not true, they still have some SEA audience.

Sora 6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jg31bbhyLg
is this going to be numbers? 40k maybe?

>>23587551
40k will be my expectation as well. Rarity buff should be able to push it up there

>>23587040
I am waiting for the inevitable Lostbelt adaptation. Lostbelt 1 in FGO was a great story

>>23587551
gold contender

IMPORTANT!!!!

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1521400774949208065

>>23587527
sora sex?

>>23587366
her design and personality fit

>>23587642
Dammit i cant believe you've done this

>>23587642
Gold?

>>23587551
leeching marine now.

she definitely can't catch vox, right?

>>23587642
Bros. I can't believe she is graduating.

>>23587717
now? marine was her first collab after the ban lifted, she was the original leeching target

>>23587642
Finally her manager doing something remarkable for her music career.

>>23587747
No, impossible. It's not like she can Collab with the most popular Vtubers in the world or anything.

>>23587747
Tick Tock Fuxiem

Sora at 7.5k!
I love her so much

any idea as to why twitch kicked its biggest earners directly in the nuts with their monetization changes

>>23587642
Redesign confirmed!

Are hololive ER permissions ending today?

>>23588077
No? Why do you think that?

>>23587800
Vox and CookieSwirl are not in Hololive though

>>23588077
Since when does permission have an expiry date? Do not confuse it with sponsored stream btw.

>>23588092
Lamy

>>23588071
everyone below that stays more than makes up for it, probably

Ban hada from ex-NijiKR taking a three month break
https://youtu.be/YkiyaWsl_J8

>>23588121
>Since when does permission have an expiry date?
You forgot about Pokemon permissions?

>>23588071
The answer is simple: they're that desperate for money.

>>23588121
Pokemon for Holos are timebound to a specific NND collab stream

>>23588133
Jesus fucking christ this is basically a graduation just take her out back and shoot her already I'm sick of this disaster of a company why do the girls have to suffer so much

>>23588123
???
I didn't see anything about permissions ending, unless I missed it and you have a timestamp.

>>23585485
he's talking about twitch subs you chumpedo

>>23588133
So we got another Roa situation huh where Livers technically graduated but not graduated.

>>23588133
Indefinite hiatus

>>23588145
>>23588155
Pokemon was a sponsored stream no?

>>23588244
No

so is the melissa graduation thing from a few days ago real or not?

>>23587249
noctyz mostly did
only uki and shu remain on na

>>23588133
>ok anon, should I for EN 3?

>>23588192
>>23588216
>>23588218
It's for health reasons, there's no reason for her to graduate, she's essentially an honorary EN 5 at this point

>>23588121
IRyS said something about having to renew her own ER permissions near the end of her last ER stream.

>>23587800
It only takes a bit of luck to tap into the massive ID normie market.

What the VSPO doin?

>>23588244
For some godforsaken reason, due to how perms for pokemon work (gamefreak TPP and Nintendo all need to be on board) it creates a giant headache since they need to get all three to okay it, but they haven't been able to. So instead, they go through NND sponsorships for pokemon to get time-sensitive permissions for pokemon games.

>>23588265
Jesus, isn't NA the true aim of an EN branch?

>>23588258
Yes

>>23588278
She is not graduating, she will just be "sick" forever.

>>23588280
Funny thing, ever since Kobo exploded into the ID market, the entire ID internet space is filled with her memes.

>>23588310
obviously not

>>23588310
>falling for NA audience meme
ngmi

>>23588310
No, most are brits or aussie
the canadian and american ones stream at NA hours

Current streams. Very refreshing seeing Sora up there.

>>23588372
alabn moved almost to jst
he is even finishing MGSR on japan time.
Sony also streams at this time which is far later thahe used to.

>>23588258
Real unfortunately. The whole thing is just a clusterfuck of mismanagement from both sides.
>On one end you have a company who has too many employees to properly support so unless you make it big after the initial boost they give you on debut then you're shit outta luck
>And on the other, you have a Troon who has no understanding of IP ownership when she signed her contract and is just now throwing a hissy fit.
A very valid instance were both sides really are at fault.

>>23588310
Sadly their main audience is the CN now. Riku might as well abandon VirtualReal and focus on the "EN" branch.

>>23588372
So what makes those members so unpopular with NA market? They stream in that time right?

>>23588133
I'll just wait for a thread to be created to post:
They finally Ban Hada

>>23588395
>no understanding of IP ownership
what? did she tried to claim her avatar or smth?

>>23588401
What is even VirtualReal anymore? None of the members is remotely popular in their home market.

>>23586640
Oh no, La+ Bf will post on discord during the stream. Miko is the trigger for these kinds of events.

>>23588439
Basically wanted full rights on songs that she makes under the Melissa persona. That wasn't ever happening, so she started doing more stuff on her RM channel.

And so it begin, nice knowing you zetabros

https://youtu.be/A0hJJcQHspA

>>23588492
It's a premier, you idiot

>>23588133
Korean schooling is hardcore man. American college is a meme and even Japanese higher education seems like a breeze compared to it.

>>23588410
Alban's kind of plain, Uki's boring as fuck unless he has someone to be gay toward, Shu's doing fine, Ike (wherever he is) is also doing fine but he'd do a lot better if he took advantage of the singing buff he had out the gate instead of playing autistic puzzle games

>>23588410
First, NA women do not like male vtubers at all. So the chance of them getting big there is almost 0.
Second, NijiEN girls act like Hololive-lite so they will always be overshadowed by HoloEN. And the fact that they are not entertaining is not helpibg either.

Just want to say kill yourself to the anon who reposts these posts on Twitter on your /vt/ numberfag account for whatever reason, I know you're reading this

>>23588526
Then ollie will force zeta to collab with astel. After sometimes she will collab with mysta n becomes a whore for him.

>>23588133
Third trimester.

>>23588271
EN4

>>23588071
for the money

>>23588588
NijiEN management will hardblock Hololive because they fear Chinese fujos.

>>23588567
If Ike actually tries, he might land a record deal and get a sololive. But oh well.

>>23588588
>force to collab with astel
kek, less threatening ano of the girls gachis than a collab with Matsuri or even Ollie herself.
Astel spilled his spaghetti so hard when collabing with Roboco and Choco he mixed up their names kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToG6S0bHXY0

He's pretty much a grown up shota protagonist being taken advantage by the girls

>>23588570
They're plenty entertaining at least before they started spamming collabs out the ass instead of interacting with chat. They're at least council levels of entertaining (excepting Mumei who's better)

>>23588662
Does Ike hs plan to release a cover, i dont even see him doing a utawaku

>>23588782
He's releasing one today (finally)
it's a shame he's a perfectionist to the point of not producing anything

>>23588588
>astel
nope its going to be that KR dude

>>23588392
What is VSPO doing? Looks like a big event

>>23588762
Anon my point is that zeta will use this to collab with holostar so that she can collab with mysta. Since her pl was known to be a mysta's fan

7600 is holoENs best for today it seems?

>>23588770
they barely intereact with chat
vox is unable to talk with chat if there isnt a SC in the middle
luca is just boring and has little to tlak about his zatus just became minecraft for example.
Mysta is average.
>>23588782
he has it already set fro tomorrow night.

>>23588526
Hopefully the zombie actually matures now that she's a senpai in her own branch. Plus her current downward trajectory and yabs should really have humbled her already.

>>23588832
Vsaikyou group draws I think.

>>23588829
Hey at least that kr dude gave collab fee

>>23588835

>>23588839
well there were only 3 streams.
and one was sana guerrilla, ame #12 elden ring and bae did splatoon and could have gotten better numebrs if she had made it a collab from the fucking beigining instead of the last 30 min.

>>23588839
None of the heavy hitters are streaming today. Man, we really need EN3 soon

>>23588832
A huge sponsorship
https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1521308653755633664?s=20&t=Vh0WD7L1Z-41QGffb6ruFA

>>23587747
she will eventually, the seething from nijiniggers is gonna be hilarious, and they're even setting up for it themselves with that recent Finana sub post.

* top streams so far right now *
Did Mio and Toya sealed the top 2 from the getgo or there will be any big streams that can challenge them?

>>23588885
VSPO going places now. Glad for the girls.

>>23588071
Bezos left.
Controlled demolition.
Happening and will continue to happen to all the corrupt US institutions until people stop chasing their fucking tail for every single issue.

>>23588818
The moment ike does another karaoke he has big chance of getting global gold , he hasn't used the unarchived karaoke buff yet and one of his big selling points was metal music. Fucking hell he managed to get 20k on his karaoke on debut week, before the Chinese found out about luxiem, imagine how much a regular karaoke now would get, even more an unarchived one

>>23588914
Marine stream or subaru stream might challenge them.

>>23588952
40k doesn't grow on trees anon, are these streams special in some way or just their regularly schedule ones?

>>23588310
> true aim of the branch
has always been $ lmao

>>23588914
there's 2 streams involving marine, there's a huge niji collab, and there's a couple of holo main channel things, however there's reasons to doubt all of them

>>23588903
Hard to imagine Kobo was not aware of vtubers before joining. She blasts in, conquers a whole market in a single week and stays there since despite debut buff running out.
How did Yagoo even get her? I have no idea.

Now, she almost everywhere in ID. Most of the anime communities know her and even normies are taking notice as well.

>>23588071
after mixer died they thought they had won the streaming war when they only won a battle.
so far youtube is adopting "good" twitch features faster than twitch is bettering itself so it looks like youtube might win

>>23588392
Why does Okayu's title read like a JAV?

>>23588940
I think his ori song might beat RIP since his music is mainstream friendly. Like, NijiEN is stupid for not monetizing his music from the get go.

>>23588966
Marine on collab and Subaru GGW stream that might a full team collab(?).

>>23588990
she was aware of indo streamers and other zoomer culture, just not vtubers. So she just applied that knowledge to vtubing.

>>23589032
>I think his ori song might beat RIP
now you being delusional

>>23588903
What was the finana sub post

>>23589032
Meds.

>vox talk negative and somewhat seethe tinged
>ike talk somewhat positive and possibly hopeful for big numbers

https://youtu.be/xqWE0UYb1zM
Just realize that stinky n lui are also in the thumbnail.

>>23589056
ike has actual talent unlike the rest of the males.
he is the only one that i can say deserve numbers.

>>23589031
Always has been.

>>23588854
You might be giving someone with an empty feedback folder too much credit. As for the downward trajectory, she always rebound back anyway which she did right now plus her SC number has never been threatened

>>23588873
I'm guessing July since that's around the time IRyS debuted. Covers debut schedules is shaping up to be like ID debuts in March, EN debuts in July-August, JP debuts in November-December. Some stuff that I really want them to start doing to improve debut timings though would be
>Make the march debuts the de facto date for when/if Cover decides to debut other international branches like KR or ES
>Make HoloFes a March event so that the march debuts (especially if their expansion related) can feed off the hype
>There needs to be a holo event in July-Aug to gather hype for the new EN gens
>Make the sports festival a yearly thing and make it be something that happens prior to a JP gen debut for max hype.

>>23588940
>>23589032
Fujos are too comfortable in this thread that they become delusional.

>>23589032
The shit nijiniggers type

>>23588770
There are 30+ minute clip compilations of Shigure Ui, Pekora, Marine, Gura, Kronii etc. bantering with chat and producing hilarious moments.
Most holoclips are from solo streams.
The ONLY clips I see from NijiEN are collabs. Please prove me wrong. Please find me a solo NijiEN clip with 1k+ views from the past 3 months.

>>23589056
difference is that Vox is a fujo whore, Ike can actually sing out of all of Luxiem

>>23588588
>>23588835
holy crap they're still peddling this rrat hahahahahahaha
point and laugh

>>23589032
>his ori song might beat RIP
why do you niggers keep doing this to yourselves?
do you guys EVER have normal expectations from your branch?

>>23589093
Take into account that Anime Expo is happening around July, and that is also when a lot of new announcements will be made.
I think we can pinpoint a potential debut date.

>>23588914
>Toya
man going to get bronze at best

>>23589050
> FINANA HAS PASSED SANA IN SUBS HAHAHA LOOK AT ALL THESE HOLOBRONIES SEETHING AMIRITE
meanwhile holofags

>>23588835
>Ollie couldnt collab with Selen due to [unknown reason] despite HoloID and NijiID having done collabs already
pretty sure Zeta will never get a Mysta collab unless NijiEN starts allowing Hololive to collab with them

>>23589181
I don't think his orisong is beating RIP but it will do good numbers. Consider this: his karaoke is literally the highest viewed VOD of Luxiem, and it's the only one over 800k

marvel x holo collab 4.9k waiting
Nijiquiz 1.4k waiting
HoloX collab 800 waiting

>>23589117
I just personally enjoy solo streams more even if they're not the ones getting clipped

>>23589056
Ikefags don't shit up the board, so most people's opinions of him are neutral.

>>23589181
Anon, rock music is always more public friendly than anime rap. And Luxiem fujos tend to do their reps so no doubt it will beat RIP or at least Red.

>>23589221
Wait what? That's the highest vod view from NijiEN?
Even Council have many 1M vods than them.

>>23589234
>so no doub-

>>23589214
I'm in the NijiEN thread all the time and literally no one there cares about that shit

>>23589281
you've seen the median line charts right anon

>>23589281
Yes, because no matter what people say, Luxiem doesn't have good VODs despite their CCV

>>23589192
I know, but I still would prefer if there was an annualized holo event that can be used to gather hype instead of depending on Cons exclusively. Don't get me wrong though, AX along with AnimeNYC are probably the biggest out of all the animecons in NA and would be a good stage to announce a Holo gen debut.

This is clearly a falseflagging nigger that just want to make a grudgepost when it slips Kek

>>23589181
because it's a falseflagger you retard, it takes actual schizo-level delusion to believe a NijiEN product is set to beat the most viewed vtuber song of all time

>>23589221
So fujos will do their rep to beat a 31m views vod, wake me up when this happen

>>23589224
Why is HoloX collab on the main channel?

>>23589310
>nnualized holo event that can be used to gather hyp
Mario kart tournament, MC Festival, oh wait you meant HoloEN? keks sucks to be you then

>>23589234
>Rock
>Public friendly
>In china
Name one chinese rock band.

>>23589298
they are good BUT NOT GREAT
like most are 100k+ which is similar to ina's
i think it wil decrease in the future tough

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH THEEEEE NUMBERRRRRRR ARRRREEEE RRRRRRRRRRRISSSSSSSSSSINGGGGGGGGG

>>23589310
Any Hololive events will be dwarfed by the sheer attention from Anime Expo. Since Hololive has a booth there, why not take advatage of it.

it's fubuki, korone and subaru in 3d

Why is Laplus even in the promo material if she doesn't have 3D

>>23589378
Have you not heard of the Great Fire Wall? Shame on you.

>>23589225
Solo streams are what establishes someone's talent at doing good streams.
Just look at the majority of holo clips that became popular during the initial boom -

> FBK scatman (solo)
> Migo GTA (solo)
> Matsuri Cat Mario/Bandaid/Loli talk (solo)
> Ko'one Engiish (solo)
> Suisei talking about her parents finding out she's a chuuba (solo)
> Asacoco (solo, but with guest appearances)
> Pekora TNT cannon (solo)
> Peko Pumpkin Trap (solo stream compilation, indirect collab)
> AquShion Neighbor wars (solo stream compilation, indirect collab)

In comparison there were only a few occasional collab streams that got popular -
> Suisei Project Winter (collab, but she basically stole the show)
> Aqua and Four Marines (collab)

Collabs are also not a good way to get a new audience, since if you don't know the people involved, you won't really be able to enjoy their dynamics.
They're also usually making inside jokes, which translate well to the existing audience, but any potential new audience will just be confused (and just click away).

>>23588588
I would prefer a collab with Astel over Ollie any day though

>>23589489
'course you do homobeggar

>>23589482
2D cardboard exists my friend

>>23589298
Luxiem vods arent that weak though? They dont have HUGE vods but like im pretty sure Mysta vods perform relatively close to what Ina pulls and theyre similar strength CCVwise streamers.

>>23589391
yeah it's still impressive that Ike has a 800k vod when everyone else is below 700k though

>>23589234
> China
hah
gonna be fun to see whether Susan's anti bot measures have any strength then.

>>23589489
beggars get the rope

>NijiJP gold
>NijiEN gold
>NijiID gold

So how much money are they getting from Marvel or Disney for this?

>>23589515
No. 04.20.2022 experiment proves it.

>>23589516
Got retweeted by someone on the main branch, and then got traction with the NijiJP crowd iirc.

>>23585612
My dog didn't have sponsors or projects for months in some point due managers being shit and get being Japanese...
She even said on stream she got nothing to do and wanted to join in projects and have sponsored streams.

>>23589486
Don't forget
>Haachama cooking (sometimes feat. guests like Luna, but often solo)

>>23589339
This isn't the first nor will it be the last time that NijiEN fans behave this way mate.
You are delusionsal if you think some of these retards don't believe the shit they're spewing.

>>23589541
why do these posts always happen and who's doing them

>>23589486
It's a shame that clippers and NijiEN content in general went for the group shit, feels like every channel is just a different view into the same streamer house now even though there's plenty of solo potential

What's happening with VSPO? IRL Collab?

>>23589512
For their size? It's super weak.

>>23589550
they got killed pretty much immediately at that time though

>>23588885
>>23589622
big sponsor stream

>>23589391
>>23589512
they're decent, 200k is good, 300k is great

Chinks on Hololive's main channel spamming dumb shit again

>>23589620
It's chemistry, something that HoloEN lacks. Everyone loves each other, and they all want to help Nijisanji family.
Tgey don't betray each other like what happened to Rushia.

>>23589647
> all those Galleria shirts
damn, PC gaming growing in nipland?

>23589683
IQ test time
Anyone who responds to this is retarded

>>23589681
Looks like Nijisanji fans are salty about the "Towa's bgm yab"

そいつが自分の絵をトレパクして公式で売ってたら腹は煮えくり返るけど起訴まではいかないよね

>>23589681
jesus christ they'll never leave fubuki alone fucking pests

>>23589693
They have been getting galleria sponsorships for years now.

Cover intern dont get the memo to put chat in subscriber mode only

>>23589716
What happened? Did Hololive do something stupid again?

>>23589545
millions

>>23589756
they did literally nothing, some chinks are furious one of their thieves got caught

>>23589748
Its useless

subaru's so erotic in 3d

>>23589756
They’re salty that nenes tracing thing wasn’t a bigger deal

>>23589756
tits or gtfo

>>23589716
If this unites chink schizos and fujos, Hololive should be worried. The fact that they helped Luxiem rise is the first warning shot.

>>23589781
she literally can't stop moving her hips

>chinks spamming
>only increases the viewcount and the number of comments in chat
>makes it look like people are very interested and engaged
man, Disney gonna love to see those numbers at the end

>>23589788
Looking at their spams it looks like it is from our salty NijiChinkFujo.

>>23589683
again fuck off falseflagger

some are posting that fucking holostars copypasta now, literally behaving like bugs

>>23589681
>fujos have to pay for bots while Fubuki gets them for free from fragile chinks antis
nijibros, I don't feel so good...

>>23589788
Kek, Hololive do not learn. They still want to mess with China.

>>23589788
Holo survived a flame campaign from fucking Bilibili, they won't be shaken by smaller bugs

aiiieeeee chinman your silver!!!

someone post the bugspray, the nijisisters are in the thread