/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I will start:

What makes Niji ID fails?
Boring livers? Incompetent management? Wrong strategy?

How does Kobo do it?
Every single ID vtubers (except Mythia) before her failed to cultivate the local market, what's so special about this kid that makes her so successful in doing what dozens of vtubers before her can't?
Can it be replicated by the other vtubers?

I mean every livers until Kobo has really foreign name while Kobo itself has hidden pun to "Kobokan Air"(a bowl of water). Which embraces the very local essence of ID. Since then, everything just clicks to her.

>>23582292
I feel like if you read bait threads here you can see why

This is all thanks to niji vs holo brand power and how niji failed in their brand awareness campaign, that's all

Here's my wishlist for topics in ID
>Post-Epel Re:Memories and it's impact on their future
>wtf happened with AOI that they'd let their spearhead Gita graduates?
>Does the future looks bleak for future local male vtubers with anycolor leaving and cover unwilling to fill their spot?

>>23582649
Niji insider that posting /here/ providing amusing fact too, that all the staff are recruited from one circle and on one conventionComiFuro. It feels like they're destined to fail.

>>23582269
Alright OP, which black companies should I avoid?
>Snowdrop live
>AOI
Anything else?

Also are there any cute indie guys?
I only know mochiren but he's reincarnated already

>>23583009
Money laundry via tubing becames trend nowadays.

>>23583009
Wait what happened with AOI?
also I think the following are sus
>Nakama Virtual
>Virtunix
>Genesix

>>23582292
If you just want to suck off Kobo more, you already have threads for that you know?
To be blunt, the fact people have seemingly given up on the NijiID thread and will now leave their fate to others who literally hate them is pathetic in and of itself.

>>23582649
>>23583302
>what happened to AOI ID?
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/u0rujl/iqbal_the_founder_and_exchief_executive_officer/
Don't want to open Reddit
https://youtu.be/9_ITaf-hSmc

I have a question too; what do anons here think of Luthfi Halimawan and him being an investor on Virtunix?

recently i see this eceleb cloutchasing fagot that keep poping on my youtube he show screenshot talking to kson and id vtuber. who the fuck is this retard

>>23582729
>It feels like they're destined to fail.
Well they even admitted that they're dead on arrival which is a strong statement coming from staff's mouth

So... Kobo thread?

>>23584051
Kobo thread it is

>>23583628
kek, that iqbal guy really reminds me the how toxic the indonesian otaku circle (skena jejepangan) is. seriously, i've met tons of really toxic and unhinged individuals making the pettiest dramas one can come up with. is this what anime does to your brain?

>>23583302
>Nakama Virtual
is this agency made by those doujin circle?

I actually curious if there’s any yab within Metanoia.

>>23583721
oh that one youtuber? i think he's one of the oldies. not sure why but his video also popped up to my feed.

>>23582292
>How does Kobo do it?
She's straight up popular after debuting which means most of her achievement could be credited to HoloID brand name and her hardworking senpais.
An indie or a chuuba from a small company won't be able to replicate her success.
So you can let that "what if Kobo debuted in NijiID instead" wet dream go, OP.
I find chuubas that crawl from the bottom like nekoyama Sena and Chloe pawapua more impressive. Maha5 is also amazing, they have a bunch of talented streamers in their roster and that created a fairly strong box without prior fame or brand name

>>23584405
Nah that one is created by weeb news site Nawala Karsa I feel like that agency is sus for their treatment of gen1 which are
>sudden release of 2 of their gen1
>pulling an KizAI VA change on their remaining chara

>>23583721
dude managed to get kson on his show, TWICE. idk how he does it

>>23584471
https://twitter.com/InugamiEugene/status/1520625353114669057
dude claims to be esme's bf. true or not, still a bitch-ass

>>23584596
jesas why don't just graduate them all. changing their VA is the worst thing to do.
>>23584635
guess kson really like indos?
that or because the dude have also been collabing with liliana vampaia, have 1mil subs, and actually trying to reach other vtuber?

>>23584471
I wouldn't call it a yab but man they did their EN talents dirty

>>23584882
QRD?

Kobo...you're going to piss off the pronouners...
https://youtu.be/ucBDnipAdKw

>>23584808
I remember that kson streams on eating nastar. Guess she's liking indos culinary at least.

>>23584936
she did? link kudasai.

>>23584915
Cmiiw
>scouted by meta for a year
>debuted but with minimum engagement
>management didn't spread their name enough to reach more people
>eventually they graduated

>>23584988
I only got the screenshot from my friend.

>>23583381
theres not much to talk about with niji exid right now, no point on making a thread if it just turned
>>23584025
>>23582729
staff anon was an event manager so i wouldnt put all my stock in them knowing all the goings on.
its more like they couldve avoided failure had the livers tried getting numbers but everyone wanted a comfy streaming environment so they didnt try hard.
JP has similar livers but they have bigger livers to carry them where ID did not

>>23582269
ayoooo id vtubing general

>>23584557
anyone can have 50K++ viewers if you debuts on hololive, how much you retains after that speaks volume on the quality(or their niche) of the talent.
i think kobo deserves props in particular case with how much viewers she retains, even her genmates who debuts at the same time don't have 1/5th the audience she has

>>23585066
that was not nastar.
that was some japanese pastry. well it did looked like a nastar though.

What do you think of this ?

https://youtu.be/eP--lC4XCjs

https://youtu.be/zRfvdHO7nfc

>>23585233 (me)
especially for id vtuber community? are there will be a lot of id youtuber that become vtuber in the future?

>>23585233
imo this kino podcast is good guidance for id normies that want to know about vtuber culture... so I think no more gatekeeping? especially for id vtuber communities?

>>23585233
dude didn't even know who kson exactly was, might be trendchaser or might genuinely integrate himself in the vtuber community in the future. who knows

>>23585394
>Podcast by normies for normies.
At least please get someone who's a fan of vtubers as a host and know what he's talking about. I'm afraid he might spread misinformations around.
Even a vtuber fan like valrius sinica made mistakes about Towa's yab.

>>23584636
Can't wait eigball doing the same like this, it would be glorious.
>>23584636

>>23585637
It would be funny if he's in Holostars and actually a younger brother of a certain girl

>>23585637
he got no balls to actually do that.

>>23585637
>>23584636
never heard about esme but breaking up with her bf to focus on her carrer is based ngl. also every corpo should include "Doesn't have mentally ill bf/ex bf" in their requirement from now on

>>23585149
>i think kobo deserves props
I never said that Kobo didn't deserve her success, I'm just answering this question:
>Can it be replicated by the other vtubers?
In short no, if Kobo debuted in Niji maybe she would get about 200 CCV after debut and 500 CCV after grinding like Hana. Without a Holo brand name, she need to rely on her networking skills and getting her name out there on her own. There are talented charming vtubers like Aqua and Kuzuha, but without their boxes they might not be the CCV monsters like they're right now because of their lack of social skills and various factors. I'm not saying that Kobo is nolep btw, these two are just used as examples

>>23583302
>Genesix
>ID-based virtual entertainment (VTUBER) & NFT startup, collaborating the Virtual Youtuber world into the Blockchain (NFT) concept
but why? NFT is dying. related to NFT, Mythia was a host on a podcast related to NFT. fortunately, she didn't shill NFTs
https://youtu.be/zEWJVdpLFa4

>>23585989
true dat. quite a lot of nijiID talent were wasted and dead on arrival. no, riksa was not one of them, but the likes of zea. so much for hiring IRL personality.

>>23583381
Not much point in creating a NijiID thread these days, there's nothing much to talk about other than endlessly doompost about their future

why is this one monkey so obsessed with Kobo like she's the most perfect indog vtuber ever ?

>>23586381
every fanbase have one similar to that guy.

>>23586381
>she's the most perfect indog vtuber ever
Because she is

>>23582292
you really just had to start with that...

>>23586481
explain

Question; what is the threshold of success ID chuubas. fact, opinion, won't matter.
mine is whenever the chuubas have at least minimum wage of office worker as their monthly earning. no matter how many their CCV or subs they have.

>>23586767
Bias answer, bottom of HoloID. If you can pull the same average ccv/vod numbers and donation or atleast not far off

>>23586735
She played feeding frenzy and zuma and soon plant vs zombie

Hololive have really struck gold with their 9 HoloID talents. The chemistry they have with each other and the balancing of their different personalities is just perfection.

>>23586381
She know her audience, the memes and "nostalgia" games

>>23584936
Didn't she also have that one sponsored stream by JP gojek?

>>23586898
does ccv/vod num really matter at all though?
if they have loyal paypigs at least they are good to survive in the business.

>>23586925
but she still hasn't played
>Garden Defense
>Farm Frenzy
>Crazy Taxi
so no

Imma lurk here to see if i can gain some info on Maha5

They all are 2nd most popular brand in ID chuuba scene rn since the fall of NijiID and seems like yabless too (i only watch Zen tho)

>>23587061
Don't forget
>Dinner dash
>>23584636
Is he also a chuuba?

>>23582292
Kek we have already talked about this in numerous bait threads before, anon. Just do your reps
>>23583628
Upi is a cool guy actually and I used to watch him a lot before however since his cloutchasing Ollie I kinda disappointed in her tho since he's a legit otaku, I hope he won't just be there for trend alone

>>23587156
I am summoning the Maha5 fujo here, please come here. Weren't Andi bigger than HoloID in terms of subs at some point? Even now, they have respectable numbers and stable growth.

Does anyone know what's going on with Maya Putri? Why is she suddenly active again after more than a year of silence?

>>23587329
Not Maha5 fujo but yes they are and they're also quite renown in weeb sphere here I know about it since the very first chuuba who brought me into this hobby is reincarnated there

>>23587156
>info on Maha5
Is a japanese agency born in Indonesia from a japanese company.
Their most subbed chuuba is a guy called Andi Adinata, he was the most subbed chuuba in Indonesia before moona taking over his place.
Yumejo pandering, they have been doing that since July 2020 at least with Andi's ASMR streams, yeah they've been doing that even before luxiem debuted lol
Also brotubers outside of their ASMR/zatsu other pandering content.
They have a japanese branch too, but most nips don't know anything about them
JP branch is not included in vstats.jp lol

>>23587428
I don't know about their talent recruitment method but seems like the chuuba they recruited is quite skilled as streamer and have a good talent too

and most likely it seems like not a nepotism hire too

>>23587236
Luthfi's VTuber cloutchasing was weird. He might have popularized begging VTubers to say ara-ara in Indonesia, but he's not the worst offender. It's this guy: https://youtu.be/RZqtG9_I1iM
Saying Mythia is "sombong" for not reading your ara-ara requests is peak Indonesian normie YouTuber stupidity.

>>23587002
Sponsorship anon, if i want to sponsor a vtuber, i want to sponsor someone with "good" ccv/vod. Sponsorship bring more money compared to donation (if we talk about company vtuber)

one of holoid member will be brand ambassador for esport team

>>23587721
yes and it's gonna be my girl

Hey, this is actually an interesting thread

>>23587061
>>23587170
shit, would kneel so hard if she pull those

>>23587791
i don't remember made this post, but yeah my girl will play mobile legends

>>23587890
You kidding? Fr?
Source?

>>23587791
Mchan better use her brain to capitalize SEA game, Kaela will dominated the moba market in SEA

>>23582292
>How does Kobo do it?
I think its because her personality which attract a lot of normies from Indo. Her singing also one of her appeal that could make people love her. You can check someone like Windah, most of Kobo's fan said that she have something similar with him which make her as a good streamer. Windah know how to interact with his chat same as Kobo. Her joke is also really funny for indonesian fans because it is more local. As far as I know, she manage to get more and more viewers that are new to vtuber. Her new fans might be toxic because they are not used to follow rules but there might be good chance if they could behave in the future .

>>23585787
Maybe because they are still in relationship.

>>23587817
I know right? We should make this kind of thread regularly.

>>23584557
Chloe is amazing. I don't know much about her or how can she be so popular. But I watched a few of her streams and I found her to be chill and cute.

>>23588168
dont worry i was there when EN boom,
all the viewers was like that , normies,,
give them sometime

>>23585084
That's has always been my question about Niji ID. Why did most of them never tried to expand their horizon? Like, making connections outside the Niji sphere? It seems like they're too comfortable in their comfort zone.

>>23586175
zea deserved better

>>23588484
As long as the tribalism can be kept to a minimum, this will be a great general. Now, to answer one of the happenings in OP.
>Mythia Batford is starting to recline despite her explosive growth earlier this year and pioneered the incline of the ID scene
She limited her coomer-pandering greatly. Yes, you heard me right. As you can see, most of her recent streams are either Apex or zatsudan. Her recline allows her mental health to stabilize and improve. She got fewer viewers now, but 1K CCV is still huge for an Indo-centric VTuber.

The normalization of her reputation will not be quick, but I'm glad she reversed course. She will start a donothon for 3D and I'm optimistic for her future.

>>23586215
It makes me wonder what happens to that anon who write essay about how and why NijiID is better than HoloID at longrun. lol

>>23588532
It's quite shame she's doing paid-GFE thing now

>>23588880
Now I want to read it

>>23587396
Because the ID scene is inclining? Everyone can see that and everyone wants to get a share of the new wave of vtubers viewers.

But I just can't see her as Maya Putri, I can only hear Alia talking.

>>23588799
>mytho faggs
>trying so hard to make her looks good
>agreed with the menhera past and quickly stated that shes in her better version now
>its either you are her boyfriend or mytho got a new investors with some faggots hired to reversed her image back

>>23587577
Pretty sure their management is competent, none of their talents are nepotism hire. Except maybe Andi and Alia, whom they scouted.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm positive about Maha5's future, they just need some big break towards local and global fanbase and they could be among the global elites.
That is if they don't sink their money too much on their JP branch, at least for now their future looks bleak.

>>23587579
What the hell there are so many million subs youtubers that I've never heard about. Is one million subs so easy to get in Indonesia nowadays?

>>23589210
Bot subbing bussiness is thriving in this country

>>23589210
>Many million subs
>Big population
Anonchama...

>>23589210
Most of them are the OG of the indo youtuber like Reza Arap and Luthfi Halimawan. Indonesian who are new to Youtube might never watched or even know who they are. Probably because most of the new indo youtuber is chasing trend and the old one will stay behind due to their content not relevant anymore.

>>23589167
>JP branch
ACCELERATE!!!!!
Joking aside JP management is probably looking up to Nijisanji.
I don't know what were they thinking. They should have started with EN first

>>23589144
I know the sins she did, no wonder people like you still hated her. She flew too close to the sun and burned her wings. But somehow, she survived. I'm concerned with her future and how to save her.
>i do this for free

>>23588693
most liked having a small but dedicated fanbase, niji id before the merge was basically drama free most of the time because of this, everyone was friendly with eachother but they werent pushing eachother in ways that strained their friendships.
obviously this isnt how you get a successful branch but it is how you creating a nice place to live.
not every village needs to produce something for the rest of the world to just exist.
people blame the cronyism but forget most entertainment jobs are gained by having connections, most opportunity are about knowing the right people.
its not like normal jobs where cronyism or nepotism is unfair and leads to unqualified people running the show and causing shit to go wrong.

>>23587791
I just want my Skia. You can take the rest, anon

>>23589501
>Drama-free
Anon, I...

>>23589417
I took a peek at them from time to time and everytime they announce a new member I facepalmed. They tries to copy Nijisanji too much, even they have the GAMERS gen. Nijisanji can succeed because they struck gold at their first try (Mito).
I don't know why they didn't try to copy the already proven method of their ID counterpart, scout some very talented individuals, experience doesn't matter, and when you're big enough try to selectively choose the talents from auditions.

I'm afraid their JP branch will be a sinkhole, the profits from ID gets diverted to the doomed JP and it causing the ID branch to flop. They need to revamp their strategy soon.

>>23587580
huh, fair enough.
although holoID got plenty of sponsor when they were only gen 1.

>>23589736
Wait, she was supposed to debut in Gen 1, right? What happened?

ID Vtuber team for Divegrass/vt/league when?

>>23589780
The power of a brand anon

>>23589829
>Gen 1
That's Taka, Hana and Zea's gen, anon. Nara is from wave 3 with Juwa and Lele

Since I don't want to de-rail /ehe/ imma post it here
>>23577134
>it's impossible if you are indie vtuber because collabing with holomem cost a lot of money especially if they have million sub
Any info about this? Or is this just a rrat?

>>23589829
>>23589912 (me)
Oh wait I misinterpreted your post kek. It's my first time hearing that 2bh. Qrd?

>>23584405

sus for sure, they deadass released stats regarding of their (ex) talents' performance to the public

https://youtu.be/sxeaSV6HdI8?t=435

their new gen talents are also performing as bad as the first gen lmao

ITT
>indiefags
>Nijifags
>who corpo fags
>barely any HoloID fags
yeah you can have it as long you're not shit on HoloID,
have fun indogs

>>23589501
They're not drama free, they just good at hiding it.
I remember in lan3san anniversary last year they talk about "even though there were some conflicts, but in the end we are okay". I was surprised, I thought they have zero drama but that blabbermouth Azura said it herself.

Also you answered it yourself, if the nepotism rrat is true, then it's one of the main cause for Niji ID's downfall because they recruited unqualified people.

>>23590042
each member of HoloID have their own general, why would they want to hang out here?

>>23590018
I'm not sure too, I think I read about it somewhere but due to some troubles, Nara was forced to delay her debut. I can't find infos about it, tho, maybe I hallucinated.

>>23590042
Where have you been Anon?
There are lots of HoloID discussion on previous bait threads. I even went
full manager larping on them. If you want more of it, make a HoloID general.

>>23590211
>HoloID general
nah this anon >>23590117 make a good point.

>>23590033
holy dead chuubas.
if hundred subs and 1view they all get, it'll be better if they go indie. at least there won't be any cut to their earning except for taxes.

>>23590117
>why would they want to hang out here?
to assert dominance and make other ID fags jealous, maybe.......

>>23590033
I think some people take the "becoming a vtuber is easy" too literally. Unless they're okay with being 1 digit vtuber or doing it as a fun side project, then they should realize that vtubing is a serious business. Some people are doing it without any prior experience or enough capital hoping to get that big break and when they can't, they're crumbling.

>>23590042
don't worry anon, i am pro holoID unity.

>>23590348
Kek I'm /moon/ and /mhm/ regular and I'm still here since ID is all about unity that usually interconnected with each other

>>23590348
we had a Kobo thread a few days ago and it devolved into tawuran. very fun

>>23590042
We already had too much discussion about Holo ID in this board, it's boring to talk about them all the time.

>>23590348
well that ain't Going to work, cause as indie fags I don't feel biased or insecure about my oshi and I aware of HoloID Dominance, they are indeed surperior in any aspect, and wish other ID chubas see them as role model

>>23590537
>wish other ID chubas see them as role model
I wish for the same.
HoloID for the girls
Maha5 for the boys because Holostars ID doesn't exist

>>23586767
I agree with this anon >>23587580
for any ID vtuber agencies, the most realistic way to find money in ID is to sell merch and find some sponsors. Donation is too unreliable and we know Indonesian aren't rich yet. Also it's proven in the Anycolor financial report that donation only amounting to less than 30% of total earnings.
The real money to make is in corporate money, if a vtuber can attract a lot of sponsors then it's already a win.

>>23583721
The goat joomers. My bet is he'll make his own agency with his circle after learning vtubing related stuffs

>>23590459
the OP literally starts with a holoID

>>23590749
Why not just invest to an already existing one like Luthfi

>>23590749
If he could turn Miawaug into a vtuber, he would be the biggest vtuber in Id lol

>>23585007
It seems like the common problem with ID agencies, they lack the money to be invested to their talents.
Maha5 can thrive because their boss is a rich Japanese who seems to have a bottomless pocket.

An agency needs to break into the ID mainstream media so it would attract various "crazy rich" investors to put their money into this industry.

>>23590834
this is the biggest vtuber in Indo tho: https://youtu.be/tSkhz6SwfnQ

>>23590749
>>23590782
>>23590834
The fact that Regi, Upi and, Hans are used to live in the same boarding house and are quite close to each other makes me think that they might already investing in some agencies

>>23590151
I think you remembering it wrong. Nara's avatar is part of the 1st wave recruitment iirc and no one got to use it until she debuted as 3rd wave. Maybe people jokes around about it because of that?

>>23589989
probably just rrat, moona collabed with serotina just the other week

Reminder that the NijiID server looks amazing, pic unrelated

>>23590890
yeah no.
he even use a stock model from facerig, jesas.

>>23590890
Damn I don't even know this guy exist lmao

>>23590389
>ID is all about unit
>this is coming from moonfag that constantly shit on other holoID

>>23590928
Anon you replied to was right, Nara used to be included in the first wave, but then Anycolor decided to cancel her debut. I don't know why but I think they were doing it to minimize the risk, in case Niji ID flopped. And then they hired her again for the 3rd wave.

>>23591179
>they did flopped
>still manage to release 5 (five) waves
god i hate anycolor and riku shenanigans.

>>23590151
nah, it's just her model is ready to debut when gen1 audition is announced but they decided not to use nara model and make a new one (zea model)

>>23591127
don't shitpost with my daughter, faggot

>>23589989
It's a false rrat. Enikara have said it a few days ago that they never ask for any money if any vtubers wants to collab with their livers.

>>23591127
>Bite bullshit from falseflagger

Anon....

>>23591276
I'm talking about the early Niji ID and they were far from flopped. Ichikara put a low expectation and Niji ID exceeded that expectation. That was late 2019 to early 2020.

>>23589989
no? if they want to collab with certain holoID, the first thing they need to do is contact their member, if they respond, they'll probably need you to send an email to the management, from there it can be good or go south.

>>23591331
are you me?

>>23591127
t. Never hang out in /moon/

>>23590690
The only thing holding indogs back from throwing their money to their fav streamers is that they can't use SC yet, it's not that we aren't rich anon

>>23591127
you mean zomkek?

>>23591561
I rather use sociabuzz/streamlabs, fuck susan for taking 30%

>>23589852
Where have you been bro?
There was 2 teams in vtl2 and for vtl3 /ZomG/are looking for caretaker rn

>150 posts
>not a single mention of Mine
what do you think of her

>>23591601
Well sociabuzz isn't that well known yet

>>23591419
anon, the only member that didn't really flopped back in 2020 were hana, bonni, and siska, also probably taka and zea. the other are still underwhelming in terms of viewership (and earning for some), even until this day.

>>23591127
>>23591578
here we go the shitflinging

>>23591629
I heard that her streams are lewd, is this true?

>>23591629
I used to watch her a lot back in the days but for some reason, I just stop doing that (I forget why)

>>23591614
I knew about /moon/ and /nijiID/
What i mean was all ID Vtuber on one team... You can divide the member accordingly... 6-6-6-5 = 23 people

>>23591629
I wonder of she Will incline even further after joining Muse ID circle

anyone interested with holoid merch sales, i think it's interesting seeing reine being the 3rd most bought one, she's barely speaking bahasa outside collab and yet she sold more than iofi and ollie. how does she do that?

I don't know if this is too early to call Kobo as an ID star its been a month but I think she manage to capture the ID market. There is a sign of incline for the market. Which will help other ID chuubas to incline too. New indo people does not know Hololive or any Corpo. They only know certain vtuber especially the one that is very known like Mythia, Chloe and Maha5 members. Now this people are getting far into the vtuber rabbit hole after kobo debut. A lot of ID youtuber even impressed with this vtuber stuff. Most indo people thought vtuber only famous for doing something like coomer bait. Now after kobo debut they getting to know more about the chuubas talent like singing rather than watching them to request to do ara ara or something that make them hard. Kobo have her own appeal that make her stay relevant, it would be good for the long run. For the ID market to continue expanding it might need more exposure.

>>23591899
i unironically think that reine's local fans are loaded as fuck, just the same as reine.
or, it's reine buying all of her stuff for herself kek

>>23591939
hold up, why does they know about mythia but not about holoID?

>>23591874
NTA but she's already quite close with Daem and has several collabs with him already when I used to watch her so I don't think it will affect her that much

>>23591899
remember she's rich, maybe she bought it herself and put it in every corner of her house

>>23592009
tiktok...

>>23591899
Because Reine is awesome, that's why

>>23592068
oh... tiktods...

>>23591744
>HoloIDs are the most well known Indonesian vtubers among EOPs
>Shitposters only know HoloID
Kek I can connect the dots.
>>23592009
>Mythia
Shilled by 3dpd YouTubers

>>23591831
Hmmm that would depend on whether this thread can remain relevant by July at the very least, In the meantime you should tell vtl commisioner that you are keen to rep /idlt/

>>23591127
/moon/ only hate Oil cuz she tried to force Moona to collab with males and her constant screaming. Well maybe also Yopi for same reason

>>23592090
no no don't fucking say it like that
i can't fucking believe that this thread is made up by actual Indonesian people

>>23591629
I don't know much about her except from some clips of her talking about lewd stuffs.
Feel free to shill her here anon.

>>23591963
Like attracts like.
>>23591939
People know HoloID is a thing, just that Indonesian Only Peasants got filtered by most HoloID members.

>>23591744
fuck off retard

Wait. I just remembered Indonesia is mostly Muslim.

How come these girls don't get Muslim'd?

>>23592278
what ever do you mean?

>>23591939
Brando has already prophesized her incline in ID market so she is already on the right track

I don't know about you but i hate seeing the "ID elites" gatekeeping their oshi from these newfags that could potentially make the branch/market even more successful just so they can enjoy their usual dying live chat. Can they instead guide them peacefully without using insults?

>>23592295
Aren!t they too immodest by Muslim standards?

Please don't reply to spics and burgers

>>23592331
You mistook us as sandniggers, anon

>>23592169
Why are you like this?

>>23592278
they get virtually stoned if you way too lewd like mythia before

>>23592331
Indonesia is not a Muslim country

>>23592331
indonesians are moderate as fuck

>>23592359
Ignore Anon
Ignore

>>23592331
Nigga what

>>23592368
Because i can?

>>23592331
oh you mean like that moona's vodka tweet?
nah, they are okay with it. the only thing they do is spewing some bullshit on social media. most of them probably underage too.

>>23592169
Not anymore now that schizos has moved to /ehe/, you have to go to /ehe/ now to find ollie antipost.
Not exactly surprising since they are never really moonafans to begin with

How do we safe zeta

>>23592403
kek, it's too easy to farm (You)s from us

>>23592436
yeah they were shitting all over the thread the other day about zen, poor kobo

>>23592169
retard trying to loop whatve been 6 months yabs

>>23592403
Ah yeah you're right I'm sorry about that

>>23592359
So you're mostly Muslims light? Not taking it all that seriously?

Though I remember some news from few years ago where some politician just said something about not having to 100% follow Kory and you guys went apeshit. Like 5 or more years ago.

I vaguely remember it cause it was soon after my old school started opened an Indonesia focused course, so it made me cringe.

>>23592381
Google:
>In 2018 Indonesian governmental statistics, 86.7% of Indonesians identified themselves as Muslim

>>23592308
If those newfags are retarded then it's only right that we are gatekeeping them. I don't want retards swarming in among good fans.

>>23592482 (me)
*Save

>>23592359
Indonesian have double standard anon

while being religious in front, they also the 1# consoomer of porn in the world

don't put us with sand nigger

>>23592009
it's not that hard to see id vtuber popularity in tiktok, just check the number in their hastag.

https://www.tiktok.com/tag/mythiabatford
>149.5M views
https://www.tiktok.com/tag/moonahoshinova
>56.6M views
https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kureijiollie
>60.8M views

meanwhile kobo 1 month after her debut
https://www.tiktok.com/tag/kobokanaeru
>40.8M views

>>23592517
(Kory being a funky way to say Quran.)

>>23591695
I'm having a hard time imagining that there exists hypothetical ID viewers who are *financially capable, and *willing to donate* but *can't* because they "don't know any other platform".
Most ID vtubers are already on sociabuzz or trakteer and advertise them anyway, I assume those dedicated and fortunate enough will find a way to donate.
Then again I keep underestimating the stupidity and laziness of my fellow countrymen.

>>23592308
>ID elites
Funny, cuz those elites you are talking about were supporting their oshis ever since HoloID wasn't popular and slandered for speaking too much English, even though HoloID need it to survive, but the likes of you don't understand their circumstances and keep insulting gen 1 and gen 2. I will never forgive I will never forget

>>23592554
jesus christ what the fuck are those numbers.
does tiktod have better engagement and algorithm than youtube? or is it because there are a lot of clipper there more than in youtube?

>>23592517
Muslim majority country =/= Muslim country, our laws are not based of Quran and Hadith. Except Aceh no province or city in Indonesia using Syariah Law

>>23592544
Porn consumption is directly proposional to total population anon

>>23592613
Well that's cool to hear.
You're mostly chill then?

I might actually stop by one day.

>>23592544
>Double standard
Kek if that's what you used to describe how we're not fully brainwashed by wahabism and salafism then I'm alright with it

>>23592560
weeks ago i donated someone thru trakteer using go-pay. very convenient
>>23592611
tiktok's algorithm is like that. it's easy to be "viral" in tiktok. i saw a friend of mine using tiktok and his account inclined quickly, it's insane

>>23592308
>could potentially make the branch/market even more successful
believe me its not, what have you learnt from nijiID

>>23592488
I'm putting Maha5 plan 2/3 of the thread on and they goes schizo fit until bump limit. So yeah, I agree.

OP here.
This thread has becoming better than I expected. The discussions looks more civil than I expected too, there are some troublemakers but overall it looks good. I wonder why those EOPs always blaming indogs for schizoness when we can have this kind of nice discussions when we are being put together in one place.

I'm planning to make this thread once a week as long as people are still interested in it, and I'm still willing to do it.
But feel free if any of you want to continue it and making your own version anytime.

>>23592308
see this >>23592603
there are reasons to at least understand how one member differ to another. if one want to fit in to the crowd, they need to act like the crowd itself.

>>23592611
>does tiktod have better engagement and algorithm than youtube
always has been, the real purpose of tiktok for algorithm machine not for social media, and its not even a rrat but its a public knowledge in IT community

>>23592656
We will still get angry if you try to spread hoaxes about Islam or dump us with same group as those terrorists but only small groups of people will actually try to lynch you and those groups are also hated by majority of muslim here

>>23592785
That's fair. Glad we could sort it out.

It also explains my initial question about HoloID existing.

>>23592518
just fucking guide them instead of making new dramas? welcome them, this is a rare chance for ID vtuber market to incline even higher than holofest buff. sooner or later some of them will naturally get filtered

>>23592482
once she got exposed on jps and en, shes good in the long run, that fucking youtubers who compared zeta and kobo then said that zeta is boring, is so rude, good thing is she just ditch a time bomb

>>23592859
he didn't say that, he said she's too perfect

>>23592518
Ofc it's alright to filter those retarded newfags but just because they're newfags it doesn't mean they're retarded. I have saw this on several ID chuubas dicksword servers and many of their oldfags have this kind of bias opinion toward them

>>23592770
can you make this daily? this is actually a fun thread

>>23592859
Who is that?

>>23592770
Yeah, what the hell, this thread is better than what I expected. Maybe because a general like this is sorely needed. You can talk about Indo chuubas freely, but it's not a gossip thread. I'd say don't make it weekly, but don't make it daily too.

Reminder that most Indo chuubas understands English and some of them are probably /here/ as we are speaking.

>>23592842
I'll stand my ground, good manners first, guides later.

>>23592770
flip shizo cant join the conversation

>>23592842
Doubt that
There's no way to Filter toxic indonesian normies anon

If you are ready to keep incline and tap into true indonesian market then be ready to accept those kind of people

if not then go back gatekeep them to no end, that's the cycle

>>23592932
Hmm... not so sure about doing this daily, we will run out of topics and schizo are going to fill up the thread

>>23592859
He only said she is too "perfect" and Indo audiences mostly likes "crazy" or "loud" types streamers.

what happen?

>>23592935
NTA but it was Brando who said that on his second account but even then he didn't said she's boring. He just said he's too graceful, cutesy and girlish for ID market while what that market wants is someone who's a bit unhinged, savage and loud but he also said he still need to watch them more to know about it

guys, enlighten me what happen with miti and akemi?

>>23592770
>Tl DR this is your new thread containment instead of trashing on globul

>>23592932
>>23592946
Feel free to do it. It's easy to make a new thread, just copy the format in the OP if you like it, add or change some to make it better.
If you guys want to make it a chain thread then don't forget to include the link to previous thread.

>>23592430
no i think anon means how uhh... "revealing" they are by muslims standard

>>23592770
A lot of OG holofans outside of Japan and China were from SEA (especially Indonesia). When holoEN drops, the oldfags started anti-posting against the EN Holos, like Kiara's schizo for example. One of the schizos got doxxed and was revealed to be an Indonesian.
The rest is history.

>>23592842
People who use facebook assume that vtuber fans were annoying because they always have drama especially on facebook, this might be a good time for newfags who are into HoloID to get to know more about vtuber. Instead of gatekeeping them, let the talent itself manage their own fanbase and for the "ID Elites" don't just insult them because they could not be more respectful. Let them go far into the rabbit hole to make understand more. I believe they could somehow manage to be better in the future or even worst it might be far from what you expect.

>>23592993
Agree

Once a week is perfect since we can collect more infos and save topics to talk every week

>>23593040
Ahh.. i thought there is other youtuber. yeah, it seem that anon misunderstood what he tried to say about zeta. Its actually solid opinion from someone that has good understanding for id normies market

>>23592993
>essentially an ID drama thread
>not attracting schizo
On the flip side that means they could be contained here instead of shitting individual split

>>23593041
nobody knows. someone asked about this in evelyn's tweet and mythia replied, asking them not to ask about it anymore. keigo didn't cut contact with akemi, btw

>>23592517
the Qur'an did not state that i can't watch a vtuber

>>23593041
they probably broke up kek

>>23592986
I'd rather see my oshi getting those big money anon, so I won't gatekeep. As long as they can control the chat these newfags aren't that big of a problem

>>23593030
Graduation?

>>23593122
>revealing
are you kidding. we have a lot of titty streamer.
although small and varying in audiences, they are exist.

>>23593228
exactly what i think the >>23592331 anon means when he said that

>>23593030
>Evelyn
Isn't she Reine's and Andi's friend?
Maybe she's poached by Maha5.
I hope it's nothing serious.
>>23593130
>"ID Elites" don't just insult them because they could not be more respectful.
Please post one example of these "ID elites" from YouTube or Facebook, since I'm not sure what kind of insult you are talking about

>>23592308
Those elites know RBI but still can't ignore the newfags lol

>>23593040
its not windah btw

I'm a bit traumatized looking at "Lambe Turah" (yes, I used to follow them). It was just bad for myself in overall but goddamn their posts were spicy and quite substantial.
I'll lurk here though.

>>23593365
>RBI
the fuck you bring jewtube in this shithole

Please keep making this thread boys, it makes /moon/ so fucking peaceful

>>23593527
Thread does not seem to live up to that name imho, but I'm too lazy to think up of a new name

>>23592517
>>In 2018 Indonesian governmental statistics, 86.7% of Indonesians identified themselves as Muslim
lmao the funny thing about this is that a lot of us are "islam ktp" because you are not allowed to empty the religion space in your id card, most of atheist choose islam/christian (for camouflage) or buddhist

>>23593493
Then who is that??? anon, fucking hell

>>23593611
Because indonesia state ideology didnt agree with atheism concept

>>23593130
ID elites are discord, not facebook you newfag. They stick to ID1 like a magnet since day 1 when you dont even know who moona is.

>>23593611
Or one might be raised religious but stopped being religious later after they got their national ID.
But yeah, same difference.

>>23593611
true. hence you still see girls with hijabs twerking on tiktok.
islam ktp means something around (islam only on paper)

>>23593575
This thread is also not /#/ since there's no numbers posted.
So, like a Mading, ID vtuber bulletin board? ID news?

>>23593493
Yeah not on his "windah basudarah" channel but on his second account and I don't think he means she's boring or anything like that since he said she's based he saw her to the moon playthrough
https://youtu.be/G0fTKs3pRdY?t=9095

>>23593030
Too busy irl to continue as agency member, she Will be on Hiatus to take care of it before returning as indie

>>23593758 (me)
She's based when he saw*

>>23593575
call it RSJ or Warkop

>>23593795
>RSJ
This one

>>23593758 (me)
Also meant for >>23593657

>>23593795
Either could be good 2bh but RSJ seems more fitting to the culture of this board.

>>23593795
>RSJ
The schizos are at /ehe/ now, it seems like they're moving from /moon/
Call this thread /ADHD/. Anons can't stop being off topic and distracted by religions and baits

>>23593740
OP literally said numbers is just one of the things gets discussed here. If no one wants to talk about numbers then they're free to talk about any other things. Maybe there will come some numberfags who will be joining in and then we can talk about numbers.

>>23592482
Going indie

>>23593795
Indogs better

>>23594017
okay op we get it.

>>23593795
RSJ seems nice

>>23593795
Warkop rolls off the tongue better

>>23593353
>>23593712
Ye I didn't say ID elites are from facebook, I only say people who use facebook assume the vtuber fans as annoying. Also this is from discord, there is also from youtube comment but I lost in track.

>>23594123
who the fuck is this bastardo? this not even gatekeeping. this is blatant insult. yeah you should get mad with these kinda fans.

>>23594123
lmao this shit sound like those self hating faggot on twitter.

>>23594084
Warkop = warga koplak? nah I know it means "warung kopi" but my Indonesian sense of humor can't just let it pass like that

>>23593795
how about /bpjs/ instead of RSJ?

>>23594080
hey that's not me

>>23594246
but your name is literally op.

>>23583381
>>23585084
>>23586215
I do miss NijiID general but all we did was hornypost bump, ritualpost bump, and take baits. Every poster was into different parts of NijiID and there was hardly enough posters to stay afloat. We're just not relevant enough here.
It's much healthier as an ex-ID fan to go back to discord, NijiID discussion gains nothing but pain from the /vt/ format.

>>23594123
Ohh I love seeing self hating indogs , Kobo let them seethe MOREEE

>>23594123
kek i bet these guys also the same guy who always shout "read rule" on chat

>>23594123
Ahhhhhh classic shitty indogs
But they have a point' tho, some of the locals would rather use it on merchs than donos and I heard that merch supports our vtubers better than donos

>>23594203
Kek

>>23592603
Yeah, I just don't understand the need to shit on holoID so much for speaking English most of the time when they're working under a corporation and under their payroll too. Current gen can be more comfortably Indonesian because of the way paved by previous gens.

>>23594123
There's always nigger like this in every ID chuubas' dicksword server and I wish nothing for them but for them to take a noose asap

>>23594123
based Kobo making discordniggers seething

>>23594123
>Hololive is stupid for recruiting a kid who can't speak any other languages
>proceed to mogs her genmates and senpais in views and donations. Trigerring an incline throughout the whole ID scene
Nothing personnel bro

>>23594376
What no what I mean by newfags is people who are ignorant of the vtuber culture. They should be guided, without being toxic.

>>23587890
I Guess so, but i think it's gonna be hard coz Moonton have connection with chink...
But Blizzard can do that, so maybe it would be happen ?

>>23594123
Okay Anon you have a point, and you got my sympathy
That's your fault for joining discord though.
It's an echo chamber.
>Indon
Yikes unironic self-hater
Fuck this nigga. He's probably from twitter. Indon is only a neutral word when typed by malaysians. You know a certain type of indonesians who use it on Twitter. I don't have any good impressions of them. I don't know about you guys I actually think Indogs is funny and not offensive compared to indon. Maybe it's impression by association.

>>23594414
>who can't speak any other languages
Are you sure you are not confusing Moona with Kobo? Kobo can at least speak indo

>>23594480
Eh, I rather type Indon most of the time but not really because of self hate though. It just rolls of the tongue better.

Reza Avanluna will have a Niji&D session with Tsuyu Hortenshia from Yume Reality
https://twitter.com/RezaAvanluna/status/1521451692138860550

I'm wondering will his D&D expand more globally to NijiEN, or locally (HoloSanji5 through Mika?)

>>23594512
Anon... Indon means "indo bloon"...

>>23594123
Are you in those channel too? If yes, can you send this message?
"Bacot lu kontol, lu lebih tolol dibandingin spammer indon, enak ya jadi orang goblok, ngetik gk perlu mikir"
DM is fine too, thx

have we talk about NimoTV closing down, do you guys think it will affect Indonesia streaming market as a whole? NimoTV audience "more" familiar with donation culture compared to YouTube audience, especially those who only watch windah as we know windah not opening his membership and only open donation for charity

>>23594512
It's indo-nesia Anon, not indon-esia.
Come on.
Indog is from 4chan
Indon Is some Twitter shit

>>23594123
You know, I sometimes don't like hanging around in Kobo's chat but mostly because her streaming style and her chat are not really my fit. A matter of preference, you'd say. This is just very pretentious of them...

>>23594561
Nimo will not closing down, they even hired new dota streamer recently

>>23592603
lol no, i've been watching holoID since their debut, we always hate you folks who can't grow up and keep making drama for every fucking shit happen to my oshi.

>>23594607
who?

>>23594561
Wait what? They gonna close? That is unexpected but vtuber wise the only ones streaming there are alterly which has ties with e-sport team evos

>>23594480
>>23594558
I'm not in the discord server but I got it from a friend who are in there.

>>23594561
really? well they can always migrate to youtube.
also there is rumor about SC going available for ID region, so still a win-win condition for them?

>>23594545
No, malays used it as a slur whenever there is fight in the internet

>>23594578
Idk, it feels very "nanggung" if I just type Indo and like I said, Indon simply rolls off the tongue better rather than, say, Indog.

>>23594480
I'm joining discord channels for a daily dose of clips of that particular vtuber. It's hard to find clips from youtube search engine and those channels actually shares quite a good number of clips.
I've never joining the discussion tho, full of cringe kids like that.

>>23594578
>Indon is from twitter
Nah it has been around long before even kikebook become well-known in this wkwkland

>>23594480
Indog is funnier than Indon

>>23594685
>Mbah Google
>Satisfying overlord Sri Mulyani to open Rp SCs
NGMI

>>23594545
I think I've seen a twt about it not being a slur and doesn't mean what you said either. But even if it was, let's just do what the niggers do and reclaim the word, I guess?

>>23594544
>making connections after the branch got merged
You should do that back in 2020, it could save your branch.

>>23594693
Yes you're right that it comes from malons and it comes back from when we used to shitpost on each other forum (they come to our forums like kaskus and some of Indonesians go to theirs) so much that it became one of the reasons why Tifatul launched internet positif

>>23594702
I do the same, just becoming aware of the negative connotations of Indon now.
Languages evolve rapidly these days and sometimes the word in my head doesn't match up with the public perception anymore.
I'm gonna start using Indo now I guess.

>>23594641
Aville dota, he mostly stream on youtube
>>23594512
Its kinda weird to see indonesian type "indon" to refer "stupid indonesian" while in reality malaysian use it to insult indonesian

>>23594544
>get to collab with your oshi before graduating
perfect way to end your career desu

>>23594715
Yeah I know malaysians referring to us as indon and we had internet arguments over that. But indonesians using Indon? Bruh... I don't know about this one, you are right I don't know when it started, I frequently see them on Twitter.

>>23594791
hey, they believed in the power of friendship instead of facing reality

>bump limit reached
OP we did it!

>>23589742
>JP Branch following Nijisanji Formula
that's what i'm afraid of
even their "Main" Member like Kou-rin and Alta Ii are so Talented, but their management makes me Confused AF, Especially on recruitment

>>23594838
>Aville dota
it is from his last stream? that thumbnail is just a joke anon, its from 2018 not today

>>23594791
>>23594869
Thank you resident NijiID backseat analysts, very cool

>>23594926
you're welcome maha5bros

>>23594926
We're cool indeed, thanks for being honest about it

>>23594908
Ahh, is that so? I didnt watch his donothon anymore

OP make the new thread with /RSJ/

>>23594866
I'd like to thank you all for contributing here. Keep the spirit up, because it's a win win for everyone in this board.

Long Live the ID vtubers

>>23594868
Prolly it's just a zoomer who thinks only IOP who are like that but never see how unhinged EOP and JOP can become or just self-hating Indo which is rising in number since last decade

>>23594414
>in views and donation
Views she can have that, but is her donation numbers really that big? I thought that was Zeta in Gen 3

>>23594762
Well I think none of them saw how wild the lounge was back in the day when malons love to raid kaskus and some of kaskusers also returned the favor back by shat on their forum

>>23594123
i agree with him

>>23595224
for those who uneducated about numbers

>>23594869
>Literally believe In Nakama power
>It kills their branch
Real life is not anime

>>23592068
>TikThot

Even i hate that App, i can't denied that TikTod is really good place to incline

>>23595383
Bring their donation numbers anon

>>23594123
based, uneducated chats should have just gtfo, imagine watching a stream and the chat just like tits, tits, ara ara, say ma name, are you virgin, bunch of incels retard

>>23595224
in SC? Yeah it's Zeta, Kobo only got around 1/3 of hers. But if we are also counting the sociabuzz Kobo already got more donations in one month than her senpais' all time. We don't know the exact amount, but someone made a calculation in /#/ that the chance is big that she received more than Zeta.

Posting anything NijiID related in /vt/ is borderline self-harm at this point

>>23595443
at least their staff moved to the main branch

>>23595611
for real? i thought they all got fired lmao

>>23593030
She is going back to be indie chuuba

>>23595611
Have you looked into yesterdays bait? I sweat its on the archive rn,look it up, they are leaving

>>23595565
Shut it Siskuy

you should leave it all behind, and enjoy your MILF life happily

>>23595629
no, i was just shitposting, they all get canned, thanks for their livers not bringing the numbers

>>23595553
Isn't it because Sociabuzz for the senpais were kinda late? Only available by December 2021 and by then, many were still filtered by them speaking English most of the time.

>>23595611
they got fired i think, theres even a farewell and some anon claimed as a staff rant on a thread weeks ago

>>23595553
you need to compare it with SC average, look on playboard at their respective channel. zeta SC is in whole another level if you compare it to kobo's all time sociabuzz.

>>23595565
she is your typical ethot who play moba who used as moaning buff

>>23595565
Not really and we even talked about them before, teh

>>23595879
Yeah maybe I lack biji

>>23594507
No, it's the correct translation. The complaint is about Kobo only fluent in Indonesian brought some unwanted demographic to holoID. Yes, they hate that Cover hired someone who can only speaks ID to holoID

>>23595677
I don't know why she needs to join any agency, she is one of the OG, literally in the same generation as Maya Putri. She has the respect of any ID vtubers, she just need to ask for any collab and I bet anyone would think twice before declining the OG.

>>23595949
>He replied seriously
Anonchama....

>>23595996
Anon, even Maya joined an agency...

>>23595926
>Lack biji
You know the usual procedure right? tits or GTFO

>>23595565
Why tho?
There are some NijiIDniggers on YouTube, but I'm not petty enough to tribalfag against NijiID anons here since I rarely encounter you guys.

>>23596069
She started in an agency. It's different with joining later after you debuted as an indie chuuba.

Or you're talking about her second persona?

>>23595996
If i am not mistaken rememories is a project started by her manager, so it did make sense for her to join it since the was manager by rememories before it even exist

>>23596137
>Niji ID fags are so insignificant in this board that Holo ID fags deemed it's not worth it to start a tribalwar with them
Honestly I can't laugh anymore, it's just so sad, especially if you know how rampant is the tribalwar between HoloEN vs NijiEN in this board.

>>23593030
>independent
>agency
What an oxymoron.

>>23596140
I'm talking about both, anon

>>23596229
I still remember when NijiIDfags used to shit on HoloID in FB, good times

>>23596229
you are implying that they are almost nonexistent...

>>23596129
Figuratively, baka
>>23596137
I don't think it comes from a place of malice or tribalfagging, just that any NijiID topic eventually devolves to sad and angry self-loathing and doomposting. Complaining about mistakes in a past no one can change, management of a company we can't control, and a future no one can predict.

I know that monkey fans is here, just wanna says can he stop attention whoring at Holos chat, I know it's for "supporting" the girls but it's still annoying, Someone need to tell him.

>>23596279
oh yeah that time when hana got constant sub 1k ccv huh
nostalgic.

>>23596229
Well as you can read here holoIDtards are too busy with their own civil war to care about the now irrelevant branch

>>23593575
>>23593795
Eh, I think using Lambe is good enough, we just need more drama or just create it.

>>23596229
I don't care
It's actually comfy.
Schizos can't keep up talking about IDtubers outside of HoloID because most of them are not indonesian
It gave me comfort, confidence and regain my trust for other ID Anons regardless of tribal affiliation

>>23596309
he use monkey Avatar for a reason anon,
litteral SEAmonkey

>>23596294
Well anycolor is going public soon, you can Redeem ID's mistakes by buying their shares, as a market, ID is still far from Its fullest potential yet anykolor is giving up already, I have Faith In you guys more than the corpo, just look at the unearthed potential pipis shown us, we have the potential, we just have to take it into our own hands now instead of clueless nips

Just needed to vent here.
Some people insinuated that a certain Vtuber is a son/daughter of some PP/FPI-type head honcho or a former general, but from my "further research" it's just a CEO of which ultimately is insignificant, and not like the heir of a big group or something. I was underwhelmed.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

>>23596309
>Zen
Yeah it's a problem
Andi is Reine's PL friend and he has more social tact than monke.

>>23596309
can't stay relevant without leeching Holos,
purisu andastan.

>>23596294
Actually, we can talk about how can they use the merge as the momentum to incline but the ways that I know
>Networking with EN more like Mika (since JP is quite hard to get close by)
>Become coomerbait like Miti 2.0
>Follow Brando's streaming style a la Kobo
Won't be take seriously by any NijiIDfags and they will only take it as a shitpost so whatever

>>23596535
>Believing everything /vt/ says
Kek

>>23596535
was it anya?

>>23596675
Becoming coomerbait requires a sane mind. I don't think most VTubers are sane.

>>23595740
>some anon claimed as a staff rant on a thread weeks ago
Really?

>>23596675
There is a reason why this thread exist as a defacto successor to niji id thread, Its easier to see examples of success if other tribes mentioned their experience with it

OP here.
I will let the thread die and I won't make a new thread anymore. I still stands by my rule that I make it once per week. If you would like to continue the discussion for today, feel free to be the new OP.

Thanks. I will eat my nastar and mede nuts now that the entire festival of Eid and open house has ended.

>>23596396
lmao should've name this thread /trg/ or truce general

>>23596734 (me)
Oh and also we only know about one of her/him parent but not the other one so that's where the schizos get wild with their imagination

>>23596675
>>Follow Brando's streaming style a la Kobo
this is hard to replicate because Kobo is real kusogaki of the death

>>23596774
When exactly this thread gonna reappear again from you btw? Is it Wednesday as initially planned

>>23596774
Yeah thanks and enjoy your food anon. I feel mentally healthy after this thread because >>23596396
I should have put more trust in ID Anons

>>23596870
let's do this thread this Saturday

>>23596774
Happy Eid Mubarak OP Mohon maaf lahir dan batin

>>23596738
Reine probably?

>>23596748
>Sane mind
Have you ever watch Bigo streamers, anon? There's no way they're sane kek
>>23596807
Believe it or not even Brando himself is quite chill actually and if he's not an Indonesian I believe he will chose to become a brotuber like how he was in the past and in his second account than pandering to zoomers

>>23596917
oh yeah 100% reine kek.

I see People talking about How Kobo became popular and I see people keep mentioning:
>this particular indog streamer
>only speaks indonesian
>ID market bla bla bla.......
when the real reason she became popular is because She's Cute like univesally cute and talented af, that's why she still got EOPs hanging in her fanbase while she speaks English like 30%, and you can't recrate her succes with just copying streaming style or only talking in ID, Kobo is Kobo she's unique.

>>23596749
You can search in the archive and IIRC its subject was Face of ID or something with Mika as its OP

>>23596905
Weekend for weekly tongkrongan sounds nice and true to ID Saturday night culture, OP are you In for this?

>>23596229
But now, i saw /vt/ have a lot tribalwar between NijiEN vs HoloID...

They're even use Kobo to Mogged NijiEN, including numberfags

>>23589417

their jp branch are basically dying but they still pop more new jpchuubas

i watch them time to time because i like thr talents but they got less and less viewers each streams..

my fav stagnanted at 20~views and maha5 didn't do shit to promote their jp talents it's just plain weird marketing strat.

>>23596506
They're going public in Japan. You can't buy it without any special privilege.

You want to know how to save Niji ID? Ironically, support the other ID vtubers. Let the world know that ID scene is not a joke anymore. Then Anycolor might reconsider to re enter the ID market using a new format.

>>23596279
Don't forget about "Language" statement...

And "NijiID better than HoloID" quote...

>>23596309
your oshi will embrace the monke be it through iofi, risu, or ollie

>>23596977
>Nongkrong
Where do you think we are, anon?

>>23597033
what happend to NijidID remind me of hatsune miku concert clusterfuck, holy shit i cant believe it that shit happend

>>23596950
i agree. cute is universal.
also cunny too.

>>23596613
Hey I'm quite interested in Andi's PL, who was he? That guy is actually cool.

>>23597033
Ah, yeah since you're talking about this...
How many ID livers who are networking to ID scene actively? It just crossed my mind that I rarely watch them do that

>>23596309
i love it when he single handedly derail any holo ID chat / topic
brown monkey king i kneel

>>23597126
What’s the correlation? I only remember a bunch of poorfags whining about the ticket price.

>>23597101
kawanku we are literally nongkrong rn

>>23596950
Even though those 3 things contribute like 75% of her success? Take those things and she will be just another moeblob in this industry.

>>23589002
>Paid GFE
Wait, what? Where can I sign in?

why is there gura on kaela's stream
i think all holoID3 understand nipponese, just now kaela was reading some nip stuff.

>>23596950
this. Kobo is cute and funny,
anon are coping by claiming she got popular because other things like "le indogs market"
NO, kobo is cute that's all you need

>>23597220
Shit, I should order some amer or intis from gojek before. I will do that the next time we have a thread

>>23593041
might be wrong but i heard kemi did cheat from miti for some other chuuba