/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2352834
Suda must live this shit

>>2352834
Suda and kajita are based

She could have fucked Mafia right there and I couldn't have cared any less.

>>2352834
Not even remotely the same thing as Trash Taste

Just waiting for the Charlie and Mori collab now :}

>>2352834
Suda is one of the most based Japs to ever alive, lurk more newfag

>>2352834
>comparing Mafia with trash
kys

I will forgive Botan for any sin she might do I love this FPSgod russiaboo granny

>>2352834
>Suda
Holy newfagchama. Please delete yourself from existence before you keep being a laughing stock.

It's Suda so it's auto-based. And apparently gigachad Shinove was there as a not-bodyguard in any case

>>2352834
How does botan do it?

>>2353371
Lots of gamer and streamer cred.

>>2352834
This thread is a monument to OPs shit taste.

>>2353395
This

>>2352834
Conversations regarding this topic will always be funny because it will be filled with people doing mental gymnastics to justify why one was ok and the other was bad
The reality is there is no a difference, vtubers interacting with real people is always cringy
Suda is a fucking hack btw

>>2352834
>comparing Mafia and Suda with trash
ngmi

>>2353430
Do you also have autistic shitfits about space jam and who framed roger rabbit?
What about wrestlers keeping up their Kayfabe in public appearances?
Genuine question, btw.

The amount of based in that screenshot is way above your paychec, OP

>>2352834
Based LaLion

>>2352834
>comparing anituber faggots with based god suda
kys

>>2353515
No one is having an autistic shitfit but you anonchama, the novel of a movie like spacejam, or wrestlers quite literally being real people doesn't compare
Good cope attempt though

>>2353430
>The reality is there is no a difference, vtubers interacting with real people is always cringy
I can understand thinking this of movies or shows featuring animated characters with real people, but v-tubers?
Don't get the autistic 'cringe' response.
They're real people with high quality models not completely devoid of any realism, like some western cartoon, so it doesn't appear cringey to me. They obviously don't look 100% like real people, but I'd say 80% or so is a fair evaluation of how human they are -- no comparison to the 20% or so which western animation constantly falls under.


https://youtu.be/Xa0H-oO1uCc
People are already comfortable with virtual avatars in AR spaces, specifically when other people are controlling them. It's really a non issue a few people have, which I figured can be chalked up to autism.

>>2352834
They are Japanese. It's fine.

>>2352834
You just know Suda's thinking "damn, this shit is cool, I wonder if I can make a game involving vtubers? The future is now"

>>2353430
but no one was against vtubers collabing with real people, everyone was just against TrashTaste

>>2352834
And on this blessed day, OP was a faggot

>>2353430
No mental gymnastics needed. The difference is stark and easy to maintain consistency. Westerners = not okay. The end.

>>2353676
That response always struck me as odd, since people willingly go see movies, watch television, go to theme parks, read books, and listen to music, all of which has some attachment to fiction and suspension of disbelief. And yet, someone behind a virtual avatar is one step too much for them.

>>2353863
I'd buy it

>>2353430
I had no problem with the trash taste collab either though, I’m not an autist who would get upset over that sort of thing

>>2353933
That's the right attitude. I have quite a few friends that really enjoy Trash Taste, but I just the show meh so I just don't watch/listen to it. It's really that simple.

>>2353863
He already did but it was more of a throw away line.
Travis’ daughter is a vtuber

>>2353430
How the fuck can you not see how fucking collab with Trash Taste vs one with Suda 51 are completely different?!?!? Why are westcuck Holo EN fans like this?????

>>2353430
It's ok when japan does it. That's it. Fuck off and fuck you.

Can't wait for Ame to go on Joe Rogan

>>2353109
based. She's going to simp so hard, deadbeats will gas themselves on the spot

>>2354011
She can't even collab with her own genmates, or anyone in Hololive really, for an hour without tiring out completely.

i hope rockstar makes a collab with miko so the "no males" meme finally dies.

>>2353619
>>2353676
I get what that anon is saying though. This just seems contextually jarring to me; by taking taking a vtuber out of her virtual space and juxtaposing her with a real life setting it no longer feels like the vtuber as a personality - instead it makes me feel more like there's just a person voicing a character. It really breaks the illusion of immersion.

>>2354170
>this post
Thank god I'm not this autistic.

>>2353963
Yeah that’s perfectly fine
I didn’t get why people sperged out over it, none of it’s hosts are really normies except for maybe Cdawg and all the questions were pretty tame

>>2353491
>moving the goalposts

>>2354225
Or maybe you're so autistic that you can't even think about the world you experience.

>>2352834
Suda and Mafia Kajita > shitty e-celebs.
Nobody cares about chuuba collabs with males or real life people. It's just that the Trash Taste is the samples of the ironic weeb part of Western anime fans

>>2352834
If I were in Botan's position I wouldn't be able to guarantee that I would be able to resist the urge to sexually harrass those 2 gods

>>2352834
>>2353430
>A one off of the no more heroes dev discussing the game is the same as normie anituber podcast discussing "wow aren't vtubers a wacky concept" and trying to get an in to do a bunch of leech colabs with hololive and then having a hissy fit against the hololive fans when they call you out it
You're over simplifying the situation

>>2353339
>Holostars manager
>Muscle if needed

Shinove is based

>>2354390
Spoken like a true autist

>>2354425
>ironic weeb
Gigguk and Theanimeman are quite literally anime fans from nearly the very beginning and have both defended lolishit and spoken out against fag Twitter sjw “anime fans”
How does that relate them to the “ironic weeb” group at all, outside of the younger members of their fanbase

>>2354170
I just see it as the vtuber invading the video feed.

>>2354743
>leech collabs
All 3 of them have more subscribers than any hololive member retard
The only remotely normie one is Connor anyway

>>2354932
That’s all fine and dandy, but I still don’t like them.

>>2352834
Suda and Mafia are based
anitubers are cringe
simple as

>>2354932
>outside of the younger members of their fanbase
By not filtering ironic weebs from their fanbase. Even a lolcow like Digi had the self respect to do that

>>2355006
You have to be 18 to use 4chan
Go back https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/

>>2355136
Isn’t he a tranny now

>>2354743
>You're over simplifying the situation
The people arguing in favor of the difference already simplified themselves willingly
Every presented argument is just "ZOMG BASED SUDA! XDD" meaning simply they think it's cool because they dickride the guy
In my opinion the juxtaposition between real people and vtubers will always be cringy
Corporations trying market themselves to fans of vtubers will always feel like a "how do you fellow kids!" marketing move and feels cheap
It's doubly ironic because I'm fairly sure Marvelous has never given hololive permission to stream the first two games

Seems like the majority of this board has long lost the ability to be wary of the real world.
Doesn't matter if it's Trash Taste or Suda, it's bad news either way and brings a scary precedent.

>>2355282
>Corporations trying market themselves to fans of vtubers
Are they? Or are they discussing the game instead of fanboying over Botan

I like when Botan gets invited to COD tournament, she gives interesting talks about the plays

>>2355282
>>2355408
Don’t care, I will watch chuubas and I will like them
I don’t care if they sit next to a real guy once or twice

>>2355282
You’re just being autistic. Most of the people who were against the Trash Taste collab were against it just because they didn’t like the hosts. It wasn’t because they were “real people”

>>2355408
but anon, the JP holos have already collabed with voice actors or videogama developers. Another example? See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEaa8Ua5HsA&ab_channel=BestScenesVtuber
The only reason why /jp/ shitted on Mori was because it was with Trash Taste

>>2352834
Mafiachads can't stop winning

>>2355408
VTubers have been collabing with real world people since Kizuna Ai.

>>2352834
This was fucking amazing, don't make a bait thread out of it

The amount of newfaggotry/underage in this very thread hahahaha

>>2353964
>Travis’ daughter is a vtuber
I forget the NMH lore, how old is Travis's daughter at this point?

>>2355775
>enter thread with a multitude of opinions
>wow, everyone here is an idiot
>refuse to specify any further

>>2355854
other anons have already specified why Suda51 is not fucking trash taste, im only here to laugh

>>2355171
Failure.

>>2355408
this

>>2355282
Anon, these kinds of things have been done a ton. From Kizuna Ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtvAGb48LYc&t=0s
I'm sure Nijisanji had done a tone of these in the past, and while it wasn't really the same, even Pikamee had an interview for an AMD event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00zOUgp9twI
That it was from a game dev that is a genuine otaku and has put out tons of cool games is more noteworthy than your average eceleb.

>>2355608
And her interviewing a yakuza went so well

>>2355945
it's the exact same thing
you hate them for the same reason you watch vtubers
"hehe while you're some simp watching pokimane on twitch I'm here watching my qt jp vtuber"

>>2356397
Can Pokimane sing like VTubers?

>>2354932
> anime fans from nearly the very beginning and have both defended lolishit
Neither of them coming from the VHS/Scifi club generations, newfag.
Ask them if they even know Leiji Matsumoto, Ishinomori or Tomino. They are the sorts who watched the popular shit in the moment born from the fansub booms. The same type of people who thought Madoka Magica or Evangelions are "deconstruction" of the genre.

>>2352834
WTF ENMA?!?

>>2356436
i don't see why not, most vtubers are shit singers anyway.
the cringey anime voices most of them do for their characters are bad enough

>>2356397
>Suda51 is literally Pokimane
This might be the most retarded thing I’ve ever read.

>>2356453
holy fuck kill yourself
tomino? are you serious?
has this board truly devolved so much that retards think tomino is niche
vtubers were a mistake

>>2353964
>>2355846
As of TSB NMH she is 10

>>2356536
>i don't see why not
So you don't actually don't know. Carry on then.

>>2353964
>>2355846
>Travis’ daughter is a vtuber
What?

>>2356570
well, you evidently can't read very well.
i wasn't comparing Suda51 to Pokimane, which was rather obvious.

>OP wanted a bait thread
>everyone is laughing at him for being an ignorant newfag
If only KFP weren't such thin skinned faggots that couldn't help giving (You)s this board would improve significantly.

>>2356621
Why also have 6M subs
>>2356621
Yes that is canon

>>2356590
if you are watching vtubers for their ability to sing, I'm not quite sure why you're watching them

>>2356713
Are you saying that VTubers can't sing?

>>2353430
It was never about interacting with real people, it was about the quality of the people.

Dude what the fuck

>>2356647
Oh, so what you meant was
>Suda51 is literally Trash Taste
and
>Japanese vtubers are literally Pokimane

>>2356453
Hipsters like you are fucking insufferable
Not like you really have a point anyway since Theanimeman is half Japanese and was literally raised watching anime

I mean, in concept it's essentially the same, it's just a corporate thing that has very little to do with the actual Holos involved and is less about the hosts and more trying to open doors for further potential partnerships. But whereas the Trash Taste thing is pretty much just a necessary evil to get in bed with Kadokawa, Botan collabing with Suda and Kajita is kind of fucking awesome regardless of whether or not it ends up in anything happening down the road.

Not like this is Botan's first IRL corporate stream anyways, she did the CoD thing.

>>2356589
Grooming tiem

I just remember watching some AnimeMan video a while ago where he was butthurt because a Japanese TV show he appeared on didn’t give him enough time to argue some retarded point he was trying to make. I always thought he was a faggot after that.

>>2352834
Are you stupid? Vtubers have done these types of collabs with IRL people before. Shiro has a show where she co-hosts with one of them with other vtubers being guests on it, some JP celeb playing that ping pong game thing with vtubers during the NHK show thing/etc. However, this is different than trash taste because trash taste is worse due to it being anitubers who are one of the lowest forms of youtubers.
>>2353109
This will be better received than the Trash Taste collab.
>>2353430
Oh it is absolutely cringy.

>>2352834
la lion cant stop winning

>>2354932
>both defended lolishit and spoken out against fag Twitter sjw “anime fans”
You have not been following them for that long or not been following them that closely. Why lie?

>>2357210
All anime youtubers are massive faggots and their viewers are even worse.

>>2356709
I feel so bad for people that didn't play TSA. While it wasn't as satisfying thanks to a lack of blood and a more zoomed out camera, it easily had best writing of any Suda game from the 2010s.
Even if they did play TSA I feel bad for them not bothering to touch the DLC, especially since it seems important.

>>2356892
Newfags probably think holos were the first vtubers to do shows with real life people.

>>2357062
> literally raised watching anime
He thinks SEED and Wing are better than 00 and are "classics"
>>2356584
>has this board truly devolved so much that retards think tomino is niche
Garnt and Joey literally thought that "Garzey's Wings creator" is a nobody compared to Rurouni's pedo author.

>>2357866
all internet personalities are trash but anime youtubers are especially bad
i can't speak for anime youtubers since the last one i watched was probably glass reflection like 2011 or some shit but I reckon those have gone rather downhill as well

>>2357981
>all internet personalities are trash
Couldn’t agree more. Especially the virtual youtubers.

>>2352834
The fuck did Botan do a collab with Mafia? THE FUCK COVER? literally ZERO marketing what so ever !

>>2358985
A NJPW wrestler created a move based around Subaru and Cover has done fuck all as well.

>>2358985
EOPchama...

>>2352834
what is botan even doing there?

>>2355408
Seems like the majority of this board is fucking newfags, virtual youtubers hololive included have always been collabing with real people

>>2357364
Yeah it not great but it still good

>>2357364
Didn't he tie all the games he made before TSA into existing in the same world because of the day 7 DLC that show Killer7 is canon to NMH

>>2356584
Ask your average anime fan under the age of 25 if they know who Tomino is. You'll very quickly get angry

>>2356453
gigguk literally made a video on the history of mecha

>>2356352
wait wtf when did kizuna collab with downtown

>>2362181
Yup, they’re now part of his “Kill The Past” universe, even when they weren’t overtly tied to The Silver Case games beforehand like Shadows of the Damned. It’s basically a celebration title in a way.

>>2354390

>>2354743
>then having a hissy fit against the hololive fans when they call you out it
Who are you talking about? When did any of the TT guys have reaction like that?

>>2357210
He is right though in that regarding how scripted Japanese TV is.

>>2357866
They have shit taste, i know.

>>2352834
>comparing Mafia Kajita to ironic weebs
kill yourself normalfag

>>2366368
>gigguk literally made a video on the history of mecha
And it's fucking shit, as expected from a newfag who thinks Code Geass or TTGL is peak of the genre. No mentioned of how hardcore Mazinger or Getter is, failed to mention the wave of real robot type show following Gundam first launch. He didn't mention the impact of the "Declaration of New Anime Century" where the concept of an adult anime fanbase was formed.
Hell, the very concept of idols/moe killing mecha is absolute retarded when the clear reason is the decline of scifi anime genre following both the economic bubble burst and the economic depression in the 10s as well as the shift in science and technology being less focused on the industrial but on the software and network technology.

>>2352834
Sugita and Kajita have done interviews with Holomem several times. Shion, Fubuki, and Marine have been on with them before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6Y6zlUloY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEaa8Ua5HsA

>>2352834
Based

The whole idea of vtuber as guest was a bad idea in a first place. They could not ask any interesting questions and it was just awkward from the start especially with Mori having done vtubing just few weeks.

>>2367965
OP is unironically probably a newfag brought in by the TrashTaste thing.
>>2367901
Was it as bad as EyepatchWolf's shounen jump vids?
>>2358985
It was promoted on twitter. If you don't follow their social media how will you get the marketing? Its almost as retarded as people saying a film bombed because of marketing due to them not seeing any ads but not realising they dont see ads because they use adblock.

Are people still seething about Trash Taste despite the fact that Cover probably negotiated the collab to get those Kadokawa sponsorships?

>>2368081
They basically got that interview a couple weeks after her debut.
>>2368160
Admittedly, I've only being following chuubas since last summer. Gen5 was brand new and I guess the Aloe incident had just occurred and spurred the algorithm to start recommending vtuber clips.

>>2368234
People are seething that OP is implying Trash Taste is equivalent to doing real life collabs with people like Suda or Sugita and that OP implying Hololive or any vtubers have never done collabs with IRL people before Trash Taste.

>>2354012
More like they won't give a fuck

>>2352834
>Actual devs and people who aren’t retarded degenerates
>Comparing them to Trash Taste
I’ve just given a (you) to the bait thread and I am ashamed. :(

>>2368318
Both of you are wrong. Deadbeats will actually like/support a collab with Charlie.

Hey wait doesn’t Risu hate the fact that v-tubers are usually thought of as acting? Doesn’t the quote “it’s like wrestling but with anime girls” mean that she would hate him? I mean if the holos themselves hate Trash Taste people then idk maybe they’re fucking stupid...

>>2355408
The only precedent is that all of these real world collabs are shill streams from Cover. Much like every chuuba and group does when they want shill stream money.

Anime is real

>>2368264
>They basically got that interview a couple weeks after her debut
I know and that is why they should have maybe done it more recently when Mori had more experience on this than just few weeks. I do hope they aren't planning another vtuber guest but knowing Gigguck it will probably happen.

>>2368507
Appearances on TV and not streams/youtube are a big deal too.

Hey wait doesn’t Risu hate the fact that v-tubers are usually thought of as acting? Doesn’t the quote “it’s like wrestling but with anime girls” mean that she would hate him?

>>2352834
Those were professionals, leaders in their field, just like Marine interviewing Sugita or ZUN. Meanwhile, Trash Taste is just a reddit platform trying to cater to the faggots of the lowest denomination. Its like Hololive wanting to do ASMR with Patra and wanting to do ASMR with some JAV artist, both look the same yet feel different.

>>2368824
>ASMR with some JAV artist,
Even JAV artists is better because their main job isn't fucking making dumb react video and "review" products made by another people.

>>2368824
Hey, TT is sponsored by BookWalker and Kadokawa owns that so it is not that surprising they got permission to have Mori on their podcast.

>>2355408
>shit on ITT for not being wary of the real world
>goes on to make a newfag comment unwary of what goes on in the vtuber industry

>>2367708
Maybe they're taking about this video that happened before the podcast came out.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/jtpe61/connor_from_cdawgva_and_trash_taste_podcast/

>>2370218
But he isn't even shitting on whole fanbase just the purityfags.

>>2370218
What was he thinking? Get some PR lessons dude.

>>2352834
it's okay when japan does it

Quick, collab with Lost Pause or Trash Taste?Charlie would be the best choice but you can't choose him. It doesn't matter anyway, nerds will just complain but you'll still watch Mori. Just like videogames, just like comics, just like wrestling.

>>2370382
>nerds will just complain but you'll still watch Mori. Just like videogames, just like comics, just like wrestling.
No anon, i learned japanese and am learning chinese precisely so i can get the fuck out of the shit western culture loop. If they compromise i just move on to the next chuuba.

>>2370419
Sure you did.

Holofags mad that they get a Trash Taste collab while Vshojo collabs with vtuber god Kizuna Ai.

man /vt/ really is filled with newfaggots, the absolute state of this thread

>>2370458
This. /a/ used to love the Trash Taste guys before the /jp/ split even.

>>2370351
He is not very bright person. I do hope Connor realized the real reason why they let Mori into the podcast. I can see gigguk being still in a delusion that he has some kinda connections to Cover and can get every holo as a guest if he wants to.

>>2352834
This is not a collab, its a paid promotion.

>>2370634
He probably can unlike all the incels that make up the Hololive fanbase.

>>2352834
>>2352834
I am still cracking, when botan ask why they gave her paper and water bottle.

>>2370675
How? Cover doesn't need TT anymore because they already got bookwalker/kadokawa as sponsor. They will never let any Holo into that podcast.

>>2370795
>>2370466
Seethe more incel newfag, Mori collabs with boys whenever she wants.

>>2352834
Kill Yourself!

>>2370448
vtuber god bows to chinks, its time to rebel against such a god.

>>2370902
Maybe Mori's roommate but even then i doubt it.

>>2371050
This. Trash Taste>Kizuna Ai

OP is a certified FUCKHEAD

Why're you people like this

does this board really have people knighting for fucking trash taste?

>>2379334
What do you mean? I like the podcast but even i think that episode was shit.

this is the endgame btw

>>2370458
This place is practically a comedy. I've never seen so many people with so little knowledge of what they're talking about defend their beliefs so ferociously. I don't know what it is about post en debut gags that makes them so retarded.

Nobody will complain about Botan collabing with males, even if it was an offcollab because everybody knows how her roommate looks like. One upside of being a hag.

>>2354084
>i hope rockstar makes a collab with miko so the "no males" meme finally dies.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm35649281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzoNje3dCbw&t=2478s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR67SZLSOms
it's not like she didn't used to, she only became vocal on the subject after Hololive and Holostars were rolled into a single company (Hololive Productions) but even then has made exceptions like the last one I linked (which has Pekora too)