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CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What are your nation's current goals now? What are you trying to aim for in your development? Would said development make your people happy?
>Funeral Rites
How do your people observe the death of one of their own? What kind of ceremonies are held? How are their belongings handled?

>>23436801
This is also how you tame elephants. You capture them when they are young. Then train them. One thing used to train elephants is to tie their legs when they are young. So when they're older and placed in tents they don't fight.

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Asking if /risu/ got their ship building tools yet. Should be for sale on the black market now.

>>23439753
im gonna do a thing about it soon. We should have got it by now.

New globe! Now with horny, and marginally better clouds. I can't seem to get a nice loop with those dynamic clouds, I'll make a version with static clouds that loops nicely. Also, there's a title now.

I wonder how to make scuba gear with chuubanite now. Breathable water is retarded because you're still inhaling salt and minerals. I was thinking about using chuubanite in a mask to extract breathable air from the water. Could also be useful as an air-filtration system as well.

>>23443664
did scuba gear of some kind exist around the timeline IRL? or is that a more modern invention?

>>23443664
I'm going to give some scientific fun facts, but feel free to ignore them for the sake of creative license.
Cold blooded animals, like fish, reptilians or chumbuds need a lot less oxygen than thermo-regulated animals like mammals. To be able to provide the oxygen necessary for a human to remain alive, hundreds of liters of water would need to be processed every minute.
The first scuba diving gears were made in the 1800s and consisted of surface equipment connected to the diver through tubes that supplied fresh air and ejected exhaled air into the atmosphere. These could feasibly exist and have been mentioned in some /morig/ lore.
More modern gear using compressed air tanks worn by the diver were invented in the 1900s.

>>23444176
Its a more modern invention. I think 20th century tech. However with the right kind of chuubanite breathing masks can be a thing. Though they'll only let you breathe in shallow water without pressure. Deeper diving needs pressurized gas as water pressure will prevent you from inhaling gas.

>>23442637
Nice, great work Anon, keep at it!

>>23444481
So instead of filtering breatheable air chuubanite would have to store breatheable air instead. Then comes the question of how do you extract breatheable air from chuubanite reserves? And if such a process would be worth it over a traditional scuba set?

Also if the earliest gear is only possible with precision factory machines then chuubanite scuba is not happening this century.

Long time no see.
I finally wrote the second part of the Risuner and Kronie love story if someone is interested.
https://rentry.org/embhz

>>23446274
we were just talking about kronies not being here. glad to see some of you still here. ok lets see this

>>23446958
The interest in /vtwbg/ was almost reaching zero before I had to take my break, I don't think that has changed the little I saw in archives since I came back, but today doesn't seem to be the ideal day to ask if something happened in my absence.

Also, it seems I've a lot to catch up /here/ too. That's nice.

To the Kronie that proposed to /nasa/ adopting a priestess. I'm still waiting for the conclusion of the civil unrest arc as that will determine the fate of /nasa/ foreign relations. Also we still have to return the /meat/ priestess to the adventuring party.

>>23447209
I'm the one who proposed the priestess asile in /nasa/ story, last thing I did before leaving.

But I'm not the kronie of the /meat/princess story. Dunno who was, probably our rep, that I guess has not been here much since I left by the sound of it.

>>23447357
The adventurer story is round robin
A /meat/head started the first chapter
Then a kronie
Then /nasa/
Then someone else
So anyone can contribute

>>23446958
Hope you like love stories and some softcore smut, but inside of it are references to our cultures relating to each other.

>>23447357
At least the priestess will have a career in /nasa/. Even if it is clothed cosplay (no nudes allowed for her protection).

>>23447526
>relating
we relate very well kek.

>>23447591
Excellent, I hope my little pet character gets the best life she can possible have in sanalites' nation.

>>23447676
Hope you like it, both the love story and the descriptions of our cultures mixing together, but I'm still unsure if Bangkirai wood was realistic a sculpture material kek.
Or even the right wood to be available on your nation.

>>23447680
If I recall she'll have a private doctor that's separate from medical. So her medical history stays private. Her adopter is a lesbian with a lactating girlfriend of her own. So that should help the nymphomania without risk of pregnancy. And obviously we have space age "toys" that's safe and clean. So we're practically set. Also all photos will be digital. So only Sanalites with data pads can see them on a server (after paying a subscription). We're taking as many precautions as we can to secure her needs and identity. Though its not perfect. But we'll do our best.

>>23447488
I'd need to get into the details of it and investigate a little deeper on /meat/ lore, but maybe I could give it a try. I don't know if a have the chops needed for it, though.

>>23448034
It sounds great for me, really. I was really fun when we got that going, desu. I missed this place when I was gone...

why is this shit so much more difficult that i thought it would be.

So yeah. Yesterday I said that I would get this finished? Well i dont know how rentry works so gotta learn all the commands and stuff and see if im missing anything which resulted in re doing like half the stuff. Why am I like this

>>23448948
>>23449339
Is there something in particular throwing you off? I'm quite the practiced rentrier.
For one, always do your writing in Notepad or similar, you can't trust webpages to hold your text.

>>23449339
Oof. I use Notepad++ with autosave, and then post it to Rentry at the end. Maybe try that next time, it's safer.

>>23449502
>>23449526
woa, notepad-to-rentry-workflowmind...

Currently using notepad. Ive just always been extremely shit at writing things longer than my captain log short stories. Once something gets too long i just freeze and cant do fucking anything.

>>23449864
Just go with flow anon, first draw the crap out of it, and the edit, edit edit.

I wonder if there's a demand for nylon brushes; from tooth brushes to horse brushes.

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>>23449864
Gets easier with practice anon. Just try to keep putting down things on the page, and then have rounds of re-writing afterwards. It's part of the process.

>>23450259
Probably not that much for brushes intended as tools but I can see nylon toothbrushes being quite popular. Depending on how much you can make and the ease of shipment it can range from being a luxury item or common enough that most aside from the poorest own one.

>>23452255
If we can mine shale then we can make nylon. We will not be able to mass manufacture brushes. So they'll be a luxury item for sure. Depends on demand.

>>23449502
>>23449526
>>23449864
Fellow Notechads, nice.

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>>23444785
Thanks anon! Globing ain't much, but it's honest work.
Bizzaro Vitubia unlocked.

>>23455866
Goddamn, this makes me want to start one of those threads. Excellent work, anon, always was and always will be kneeling at your autism.

>>23456153
But that would mean hating Sana because she's too popular. I think.

>>23456342
It would, but hey, if we can't have even a little fun and poke at our oshis, then why even have this hobby?

>>23456447
Would this mean 3D girls will act like anime and vTubers would act like THOTs?

>>23456153
Thanks anon, glad you enjoy! I want to make a model of the /nasa/ station someday, space installations tend to be straightforward to model... The backlog grows.

>>23457061
OOOO! I want a part in that! I have been meaning to take up sculpting for a while now, so that could serve as a good starting piece, since it should be just simple geometry for the most part. Would draw it, but I just suck at that kind of thing, not much of a drawfag

>>23457270
Time to rev up Blender anon, it's easier than it seems, easier than drawing at least. If you can put together a concept I try to polish it and get nice materials for it.

>>23457061
First you need concept art. The station is not your typical space station. Its a station that unfolds when on the ground with multiple layers. I have an idea but its past bedtime. And I go to church tomorrow. Don't ask me why I started going to church.

>>23457490
Why did you start going to church?

>>23457490
Why did you start going to church?

>>23457353
Oh, I meant actual, hands dirty kind of sculpting. Always enjoyed playing with plaster since i was a kid, and it would give me an excuse to get up from my computer in my free time, and would probably improve my productivity. God knows I have been doing nothing but getting distracted for the past what, 3 weeks? while writing the next civil arc piece(which I am writing right now, FINALLY!). Don't expect it for a while though, at least not from me, gotta get my first salary first and sort some other things out before buying materials and tools.

>>23457540
>>23457695
Please no bully principal. He hasn't seen Robosan in weeks.

>>23457696
Neat, I love clay sculpting videos. I've never really considered picking it up as a hobby, but it seems like a pretty great one.
civil war arc hype

>>23458237
Yea, it's really relaxing, and it always clicked with me more than any other type of art. It's just something about using your hands. And if I get good at it, it would also set me apart from all the others on the art tag on twitter don't really like the site that much, but it's still great for sharing stuff like that

>>23458237
>>23458459
>make wet clay statue of chuuba
>fondle clay chuuba's boobs
>forget statue is made of wet clay
>ruin statue

>>23458683
That's the fun part. You can fondle all you want since polymer clay doesn't dry up like normal clay, and if you fondle too much and ruin the curves, you can just make new ones :3

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Small bump, also, I am not even halfway there for finishing this part...

>>23462865
Welcome to the hell that is long writing...

>>23447195
Welcome back! Yeah, things have been kind of quiet in this thread recently. I hope things will improve once the exam season's over.

>>23449864
Personally I use Notepad++ like >>23449526
suggested, the temporary save has been a lifesaver on more than one occasion.

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where is everyone?

>>23466745
Busy writing, don't have time to bump. As for others, idk, Kronies are dead, Risuners are probably sucking off someone in a dark alley somewhere, and Hoomans are conducting a "totally not a blood ritual" while /meat/heads laugh in the background. We have been bleeding contributors for a while now, might be time to set up another round of invites.

>>23467091
that's unfortunate, i have to leave, so i can't bump anymore either. if someone else could come along and help keep this thread alive, that would be good for me, but idk how long it will take for someone else to appear. hopefully not long.

>>23467258
I'll try, but I make no promises. Kinda lose track of time when i write.

>>23467366
understandable. hope the writing goes well.

>>23466745
I've been taking a semi-break from writing for this thread, although I still do some thread maintenance work just in case my input's needed by others. To be honest, I feel a bit of hint of burnout myself, so I fear that forcing more /vtwbg/ on me would make me lose my interest in it entirely. Part of me also feel that reading my stuff has become trite for many others, since they're pretty long and probably not very easily digestible.
I wonder if writing for other threads in this world might help. Time to lurk more elsewhere, I suppose.

>>23468210
If you feel burned out, take a break, definitely. Better to lose you for a few weeks than forever. And as for your works, while I personally do not read much from other threads due to time constraints, never be afraid to post longer works. I plan on taking a day off sometime soon where I will just comb through the archives, and any and all works, no matter their length, will be no doubt wonderful to read. Longer works also allow me to learn how other people write, so I can hopefully improve myself over time.

>>23468210
Sakuran rep here, seconding >>23468449. Haven't checked in these threads since Monday and will probably continue taking time off.
Gotta scratch this Rabi Ribi itch

Bumpity bump

>>23468210
Thats what happened to me, and ive only lately began to regain interest in the thread

Luknight here from a few threads ago, I've been waging mostly but I always have new ideas for the thread. Wanted to put this one down since I thought it would make for a great faction to fight against without actually needing to step on some toes.
When thread gets more lively, I wanna know the threads thoughts on this. I've been thinking about chuubanite refinement and wondered if and how it would be possible for a schizo to refine chuubanite if they are able to at all. As in, a chuubanite refined or reworked from its chuuba alignment towards a schizo's alignment
Maybe it can only be refined if normal chuubanite goes critical as is the case of a graduation or maybe it could only be refined during Yabs by a schizo who can make it critical through the refinement. Yabs usually dont last forever in the generals no matter how large and lasting they are (unless its a graduation) so any chuubanite refined by a schizo is going to burn out relatively fast with each u with no almpifying force on it or become so volatile that not even a schizo can handle it without death, sever debilitation, or a similar disability. Chuubanite such as this would need a consistent flow of power in order to keep it viable, sacrifice of the self and sacrifice of the many. Schizonium was the first thing to come to mind when I thought about the name, perhaps another radioactive metal naming convention would suffice?
>Sacrifical Schizonium:
Sacrificial Schizonium Refinement occurs when a schizo makes a certain sacrifical act for the sake of their oshi. The unholy act of the akasupa is the most common, a volatile and bloody act where a donation is written in blood to their oshi, discerned by scribes to be the blood ritual of the Red Akasupa. This ritual requires the fresh blood of a victim. The type of blood seems to vary from victim to victim however due to the frantic and unhinged confusion of a schizo, none but the mad have been able to tell what this might be. Once a large amount of warm blood is gathered by the schizo they will often write out lengthy messages in the blood before staining the message with their own blood as a, "proper donation" these donos are said to reach the eyes of the goddesses and should they see it fit, they will speak out the name of the schizo and speak in the divine tongue, empowering the Schizonium core with pure divine energy (or so it is said). The Red Akasupa is not the only sacrificial refining method, just the most common. Schizos often empower their chuubanite from other acts such as the consumption of large amounts of pyschedelics or intense self harm, while the Red Akasupa uses blood in order to filter the divine energy of the chuuba, these methods use the individual schizo themselves as the filter. These types of schizonium refinements will eventually lead to the schizos death however it is said to invigorate and strengthen them as well as their schizonium.

>>23472805
>Hecatomb Schizonium:
Hecatomb Schizonium Refinement is totally reliant on the staying power of a yab and is dependant on creating more schizos while empowering the Schizonium at the same time. These Schizo vagabonds often form large travelling bands of crazed schizonites that attack small villages and abduct their populations, dragging them back to their main forces and forcefully converting them into schizophrenics through the unholy revelations they spout. A large amount of individuals are unreceptive to this and end up being killed however those that are then add to the amount of power the Schizonium core can draw from and increases the energy it releases in turn. Just like Sacrificial Schizonium, this is not likely to end well for any involved as eventually the the schizos of the hecatomb will be unable to support the energy demanded by the core, leading to their deaths as they topple over from exhaustion and die in a large group suicide that can range from five or six to several dozens of individuals.
While both of these refinement processes result in the death of the schizo, in the process many people still lose their lives and the destructive energy of the schizo is sometimes so powerful that it invites the might wrath of the Mods themselves.
Schizo artifacts are rare and often found in the long forgotten ruins of graduated oshis, refined as a last ditch effort to save their chuubanite and culture in whatever volatile form it may take. These items, while immensely dangerous, are also highly valued for their power and adventorous tomb raiders can make quite the profit from brining certain artifacts back to sell to interested parties.

>>23472805
Welcome back!
>schizo use of chuubanite
I think that as far as what we know, users of chuubanite don't have to have any faith in the vtuber it's associated with, as long as they know how to use/activate it. Hence, for example, rosestones can be used by anyone even if they've never heard of Rosemi again, so it stands to reason that schizos would be able to use them as well. That said...
>Sacrifical Schizonium
It sounds pretty cool then again I'm /meat/head! Though I'm not sure if this ritual correspond to any actual schizo behaviour, since most of them aren't known to send akasupa as schizos (I think?).
I think it might be interesting if the schizo's rituals can transmute chuubanite into their schizo/anti equivalent (maybe that can be Schizonium?). Perhaps schizonium has the ability (either passive or active) to screw with people's mind, especially with matching schizonium? They might have other effects that normal chuubanite don't grant, but at the same time also less stable and prone to explosion. Feels like it would make writing about schizos and what they do against the other countries interesting.

>>23475873
Why thank you my dear /meat/head, I chose schizos as my chosen enemy faction mostly because /meat/ is really friendly when you get to know them despite seeming like a villanous faction I think there are schizos that send superchats but I'm mostly interested in the whole chaotic dichotomy that would result from schizos as a concept. Chuubanite powers that could go any which way in an very destructive manner wielded by someone that is already mentally insane can be taken in many directions.

>>23476752
unless you happen to be the targets of their raids
For the superchat, I guess some schizos do send questionable ones that can be considered more disruptive since they're more likely to be read by the relevant vtuber compared with random posts here. Maybe the rituals can be related to that? Especially if the blood comes from a follower of the vtuber (as suggested in >>23474892) that might imply a more direct connection.

>>23466745
Asleep. I have church in 30 minutes now.

>>23475873
Agreed. Schizos should be a broad term that describes anything from dedicated antis, dramafags to unicorns, anyone who endangers the chuuba basically. Only yab SCs should be considered schizo behaviour and normal SCs are just regular sacrifices made to the chuuba.

>>23474892
>>23472805
I tried to introduce an Anti-Chuubanite(in the schizo rentry) that's specifically for the schizos that have the ability to change others into them. The idea was that while anti-chuubanite can't be used to create any of the properties of normal chuubanite, it can be used to give artefacts power. Your types of refined Schizonium can probably be integrated into that.
Although I didn't write it in the rentry my version of anti-chuubanite is supposed to be "tranmuted" from normal, characterless chuubanite in a similar process as chuuba aligned chuubanite. As such, schizo territory in the Northern Wastes is practically full of them and a large, sustained schizo incursion would basically poison the soil and water as well, in order to simulate threads growing weaker from its effect. Since Schizos are a part of the world lore like chuubanite I'd like to consolidate it sooner rather than later. If you have any suggestions feel free to point them out. Else if you have a completely different vision we can just vote on it.

>>23472805
Yo Luknight! The idea of a schizo-type chuubanite has been floating around for a while now, so it would be a good idea to formalize it! We already have a lore entry on schizos that you might want to check if you haven't already. It doesn't interfere with your proposal, they go along very well if anything. https://rentry.org/5cz4q

>>23476991
>Especially if the blood comes from a follower of the vtuber
I think that would make the most sense. The more oddball superchats that occasionally show up are my idea of what a schizo red akasupa would be representative of be it extremely unhinged in a positive way or extremely unhinged in the normal way.
>>23478703
>>23479234
Ah I didn't see it before! I must've glanced by the schizo lore rentry but reading it over now I'm really happy. I wanted to make a little conan esque short story about hunting down powerful schizo mages but I wasn't sure how much actually aligned with what was written.

>>23479234
Yeah I didn't describe the process of make the artefacts but the two types of refined Schizonium can be easily integrated. Ones that require sacrifices are (probably) used of artefacts that are related to life & death and the Hecatomb is for items that are specifically for transforming people into schizos.

>>23479684
Glad you liked it. If you have any questions and suggestions do post them.

>>23446274
Sweet story anon, thanks for sharing. I liked the detailed descriptions of the city, and of the shops. /vtwbg/ romance is sweet.

>>23467091
Risuner here is the one getting sucked off kek. And not in a dark alley in the back of a minivan at college campus. Girls need a break from finals after all

>>23479234
>All schizos are connected by a psychic link known as Rrats
WWWAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

>>23481459
Wait sex is real?

But srsly i actually check this thread every day. I really love it whether im on my phone at work or hanging around college or whether im at home typing shit. I just hope that I can get the lore shit done soon and if i cant ill just take a break from it and continue with captains logs. Luknights landed on our shores and were to get nasa sawmill so i want to write up on that.

>>23481592
Yes. I know its nearly impossible to believe but even though I visit 4chan I do go to a local college campus once a week, the one I used to actually go to and hook up with a few girls. Its been a lot easier since finals stress them the fuck out and they need the relief. im good at talking about sex stuff because i have experience

>>23481660
Oh man, maybe I do need to go to the city every once in a while.

The fanbase really do share a similar trait

>>23481997
/meat/heads.... we must up our game as well

>>23482049
So far our stereotype has been
>extremely polite and nice, vent out repressed frustration through violent creativity

>>23482049
baka I bet no one here has ever stapled his balls.

>>23481997
Unfortunately, since I'm the only Rosebud here, I have no idea what traits I share or anything. I'm a one man fanbase in this thread.

>>23481299
Thanks anon! Yes, this story is a excuse to worldbuilding. I hope anons here got invested in the characters with this two lighthearted chapters, which was my intention. Next chapter is called 'Collapse', though...

>>23472805
/vrt/ anon here, i love it, the idea of schizos having some form of corruption method of chuubanite

and i think they would make for the best enemies too, have been thinkign about schizo pirates myself but due to wageslave have no time to write atm

Dragon tortoises and wooly mammoths should get along. Tortoises have grass that mammoths eat and tortoises eat mammoth predators sometimes. Though tortoises draw in easier prey that predators rather have than mammoth. If mammoths exist then other ice-age fauna should exist as well.

picrel: still can't find decent artwork for port cities
>>23478703
I like the idea that anti-chuubanite drives people insane, although I'm not too sure about them coming from characterless chuubanite. I think it might be better to say they can be transmuted from all other kinds of chuubanite, to represent the idea that every vtuber can (and probably has) their own schizos.
I'm thinking if anti-chuubanite has the ability to weaken chuubanite effects in the vicinity, especially when amplified by tools and/or rituals such as Sacrificial Schizonium mentioned above. There might even be more powerful forms of schizo rituals that can poison specific chuubanite effects in the area by making their presence "rent free" for the gods and their followers.

>>23482100
To be fair, /meat/ raids have not been depicted in writing for a while, and ICly it has been in decline since it got its arse handed to /morig/ a century ago.

>>23483256
To be fair, even in /vt/ most people can probably agree schizos are not people you should hang around much. It's just that in this setting, they're actively dangerous with their beliefs and acts. also we survived another XCOM stream

>>23484177
XCOM stream? Holy fuck I gotta go check out /vrt/.

>>23484177
GOD IS THE ULTIMATE POWER! I HATE THE ANTI-CHRIST! VTUBERS ARE THE ANTI-CHRIST! ANTI-CHUUBANITE IS THE ULTIMATE POWER OF GOD AND NOTHING WILL STAND IN MY WAY!

original climate anon here
my break was very long and might still be ongoing, but lately I've felt the interest in returning to the thread again. What sort of things have happened in my absence? anyone willing to do a QRD?
Ive noted that whoever has been doing climate stuff has been doing a good job, probably far better than I would have

>>23484907
Hey anon! God damn, so much. We've got a /meat/anon redrawing the map to be more detailed and realistic, we've gotten a lot of lore from the active threads, /nasa/ is having a civil war, /risu/ is visiting the world, and I'm forgetting stuff because of recency bias.

>>23484907
we have like two blender anons now and i don't know where the second one came from

>>23485455
Who are the two blender anons?

>>23485583
there's one making the /morig/ priestess and also the globes, and there was one who made a mask for the model and that's it, i don't think he's done anything else

>>23484907
Welcome back!
Apart from what the other anon have said, we also get new threads joining us, like /rose/, /pyon/, /vrt/, /ag/ and /ehe~/ (map update pending).
I did the new climate stuff, which should conform better with the expanded poles, although at the same time it's somewhat rough, and some places are determined by my own preference as much as actual climatology. It's likely up for change if people from specific threads want different climates, or just want a more detailed overview in general.

>>23485712
I think the one making the mask is from /morig/, not sure about the other though

i'm thinking about modelling the station because it seems fun and i can't model organically shaped objects
what is it supposed to look like?

I know I have to wait for civil war arc to end. After watching a documentary I have a few ideas. The idea is mammoths would be wilder than elephants. Also mammoths would travel between territories. They have very long treks moving from north to south. My guess is mammoths will go as far as /uuu/ during winter then migrate to /nasa/ and /rbc/ during summer. Mammoths would not be hostile to Robosans as Robosans are lazy androids. They will be hostile to Sanalites as we're way too close to the schizos that hunt them.

Speaking of schizos their raids get worse during the summer and fall as that's when we harvest most of our crops. Schizos will also hunt local wildlife during this time as well. Schizos will be no strangers to raiding /nasa/ ranches for cattle and poultry. So during these times /nasa/ has to increase security. Also schizos love to team up with mozzies in hopes to eventually destroy /nasa/. I fear the mozzies will organize the schizos and turn them into a holy imperial alliance.

Have I ever told you guys how cool you are

>>23488898
Have you thought about writing for your general? If you do write for your general then great job.

>>23489207
I have written some and I have written some general things for the world as a whole
I have a story for my general thoguht up but I would need to find the strength to write it

>>23487953
The station is a long rocket during the crash. Now that its unfolded the station should look like a central tower surrounded by three support towers. There's a ring connecting the towers that serve as transport. The sides of the ship unfold to make the bulk of the city. There are two levels of the city. Residential is on the top layer along with green houses while industrial is underneath. The cities are covered in glass domes. I think that covers the basics. The station itself is space minimalist but there are hologram billboards and lots of lights.

>>23486240
I'm globe and priestess anon, hailing from /morig/. I believe the anon who made the mask is also from /morig/.
>>23487953
Nice! With this kinda thing, you can keep the geometry pretty simple and let materials do a lot of the work. I'm pretty good at shaders, so let us know if you want help with that.

I think that mask is about complete! Here it is, for a round of feedback, and then I'll render and anchor it.
Yes, the diamonds are modeled in painstaking detail, yes I could probably have just used a normal map.

>>23491868
it's beautfiul

>>23489978
was the ring laid and morphed to the terrain out or is it a perfect torus that was part of the station

>>23492807
The ring is above ground as high as half of the industrial level. Which is about one story. The ring has support legs. Transport stops at the towers where they're unloaded. Support towers also have elevators as does the central tower. I haven't thought too much about the station layout.

I'm reading about salt mining. And it appears most salt deposits were formed on Earth during a period of great flooding followed by a dry drought period that evaporated the oceans. I wonder if Vitubia has a similar natural pre-history to Earth's in regards to climate. Especially during periods where the atmosphere changes.

i just spent the last 20 minutes learning how to make trees using particles in blender instead of actually modelling the city/station

>>23497798
Learning is never wasting time.

>>23497798
Geonodes are probably better at scattering objects these days.

What are the off-board things we should consider? I know /jp/ is on alternate universe status, I assume it would also be for the vtuber threads in /u/ and /trash/, right? Those 2 are the only other boards with vtuber related stuffs i can think of right now

updates so far:
>terrain noise works pretty well
>all the trees are sideways
>there's a giant tree adjacent to the scene and i don't know what it does but if i delete it it deletes the rest of the trees. rotating it does not fix the other trees

>>23498255
You can either rotate the big tree, or go in the particle setting and add a rotation there.

>>23498340
You need to rotate it in edit mode, no object mode btw.

>>23498400
they're all standing up but now they're all facing slightly to one direction

>>23498605
Progress. To randomize the rotation you want enable picrel in the particle system.

>>23498696
that just makes them askew but in all different directions

haha! my trees are now straight. now how do i clump them into one place where i want a grove/forest?

>>23499298
Create a vertex group, go in weight painting mode and paint weight in the areas where you want trees. Then, use the vert group as the driver for density in your particle system.
This goes over it: https://youtu.be/C-_6Yxjn3h4

>>23499437
ogey, the trees now ignore lakes

Greetings gentlemen. I decided 2 things. 1 is that im just gonna continue captains logs since re organizing lore of risu is an asspain. 2 is that instead of trying to do all that shit at once im gonna split up the lore into different chapters that cover different sections of lore. That way I can look at it as small individual projects and not fuck myself. Now since ill be home the rest of the day ill take any questions. Questions for luknights and rosebro which are both similar. What are the chances of risuners getting that luknight opal? Is it gonna be one of those hard to get items or is it simply just a "fuck no" situation? And to roseanon are rosestones intented to be gemstones or just very fancy rocks that shine like them? And how willing are you to sell them to risuners for risuner stuff? And actually another question about exploring since risuners are gonna keep sending scout teams inland, are you ever gonna let them go underground to all that good shit? Good day to you all

>>23500041
Looks good anon! I'd also enable scale randomness so that the size varies. Picrel.
>>23500376
Enjoy your sunday risuner, a divide and conquer strat is usually a good idea. Since you're taking questions, did you decide what Risuners do with diamonds?

OOF almost forgot. YO SANALITE NASA PEOPLE! Tell me about this shipment. How is it being transported, Will there be4 an escort, do you intend to train us, do you expect nuts in return, details please. I wanna include it in one of my captain logs

is the station on a coast?

>>23500481
Im going to right now. Diamonds are extremely tough so its gonna be one of those very low quantity but VERY powerful effects, probably the most powerful magic there will be. (diamonds are the strongest gem in terraria where i based gem magic off from initially). But yee it will take a LONG time before risuners can start replicating them via gemtrees.

>>23500599
>diamonds are the strongest gem in terraria where i based gem magic off from initially
Damn, I thought you were working off of the Mohs hardness scale, but you're actually far more based than I imagined.

>>23500703
Why thank you! Yes terraria is my favorite game and diamonds in general are just highly prized IRL. Very popular and i actually did know about the Mohs scale as well. Most of the ideas used were from wither folklore or forgotten realms from dnd. I know Cleopatra was very fond of emeralds for example since they represented life.

>>23501070
>either
when your so austistically excited you mistype shit kek

>>23500501
The stainless steel shipbuilding tools were stolen from NASA (this is our unofficial name for now). So the tools will arrive to /risu/ via black market traders. The black market trader has passed customs by impersonating as an official Sanalite trader with forged paper documents (since NASA papers are printed instead of hand written it's easy to forge forms with the right paper stock, and unless you had the original side by side you wouldn't know). He will arrive at /risu/'s port along with other bulk trade shipments. Unless /ahoy/ or /meat/ get to the ships first.

The black market trader used a copy of a form he made from the Principal's office just before lockdown. The trader is going to want either gold or gemstones for his venture. Nuts simply won't do. He's also paranoid of bread dogs following him. Anyway if the black trader Sanalite gets "recovered" by D0G-G0!s and the tools wind up in /risu/ waters then the D0G-G0! is ordered by the Principal to leave the tools behind. The tools were suppose to be a capital investment out of the Principal's pocket to send to /risu/ in return for a discount on nut trades.

Is /wactor/ included in this world? We would like to be the latinamerica equivalent.

>>23502408
Not sure what being LATAM entails, but you are!

>>23502027
>discount on nut trades
>Nuts simply wont do
................
Well if thats what it will take then we can give some gems away. Worth it in the long run.

>>23502540
You must have misread. If you let D0G-G0!s capture the black trader in /risu/ waters then the tools are yours without soending gems. Since /risu/ is so far out /nasa/ will buy nuts with gold. /nasa/ wants /risu/ to ship nuts with their own ships which will cost less than using other nation's ships for trade as /risu/ takes the risk with their own crews. /risu/ doesn't have to make the full trip to /nasa/. They can ship nuts to /ggg/ and /nasa/ will pick them up from there via grand exchange.

>>23500376
Rosestones are gems, its referred to as Rosestone like how a gem is referred to as gemstone. I'd be willing to trade them with Risuners, nuts for stones sounds good to me.
As for the underground, they'd be let in eventually. But it would be only a few, like two or three of your highest ranks, and they would be surrounded by guards at all times. It'd be a straight trip to the capital and its guest area, no visiting other areas anywhere. Very hostile atmosphere, since they're pretty secluded down there. They'd also have to reach the point where they can speak /rose/ language semi-fluently. It's a lot of requirements, but it's possible.

>>23503011
ah yes i see now. silly me. Well ill make a fun story and see what i can play around with., Risuners would naturally REALLY WANT that sawmill they dont give a fuck how they got it. And yee we can definitely ship loads of nuts over there sounds like a deal.

>>23503319
Oh I have SO MANY PLANS for this. Fuck it im doing the rose story right now I simply cannot wait any longer.

>>23503549
The tools are all hand tools. Even the biggest saws need two men to push and pull. If you want a sawmill then ask /infinity/. They can design a sawmill no problem.

>>23503719
Still worth desu.

>>23503319
That reminds me to ask: Back then we talked about having /meat/ pilgrims coming to /rose/ to be converted to plant beings. Is that deal still available? Is there any rules and etiquette that they have to observe to be eligible for the procedure, or is it something only given to future Rosemi worshippers?

bump

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me writing atm

>>23504556
they said people can keep their old body, but they will be lower on the hierarchy, but otherwise, they just want everyone to be plants. not like they need the plants that already exist to start worshipping rosemy. as for /meat/ in particular, part of me has to wonder if /meat/heads would enjoy being treated poorly, and another wants to ask if we could negotiate better treatment for worshippers of comma, who is a plant-based lovecraftian abomination, and is therefore already a plant.

>>23436932 (holy fuck risuner remembered to anchor)

Sumargo logs ch 3.
3 months in /rose/

Alright a lot of decisions have been made. We must wait for the summer of this land to travel back to /risu/. Of course this means we will be here for a while. Well its not all bad here as the locals have been pretty friendly so far.

It's a damn shame that it took my scouts this long to find anything but it seems they found the remains of some city. Destroyed stone homes or what appear to be homes. Something terrible must have happened here. Strangely inside one of the ruins we found lots of stuff relating to flowers. Did flowers use to bloom here?

As far as language goes a few of my guys have been picked and dedicated to learning how they speak and acting as translators. Of course they have been teaching me as well and we can now communicate using extreme basic sentences. 3 months of being anywhere will teach you a lot of things.
I feel that since we are the visitors that it would be appropriate and polite for us to speak to them in their native tongue instead of trying to get them to speak our language. We will ask them to learn from us if we ever see their boats approach us (do these people have boats)?
In fact that's a good idea, I should ask if some of these rosebuds want to come back to /risu/ once we set sail. I'm sure they would love an environment that resembles their own bodies.

About our survival situation. Its getting colder but we have much more knowledge of surviving in the cold. Lots of us have grown accustomed to cuddling with each other using our tails to warm ourselves up. We kind of have to since its too late to travel back and it will be half a year before we can travel back as I said before. Luckily these shiny gems that are apparantely called "rosestones" make heat.
So not only do these people seem to love nature but they also have the power of magical gems. I only wish I knew how our own magic gems worked. Maybe one day ill be promoted enough to learn about the rumored "gem witches" but thats for another day. We really do need to start trading more of our stuff for these rosestones. Surely the rosebuds must find a way to use our nuts! Even if its to make trees or for eating or something.
We like cuddling with any of the rosebuds that offer but these are very few. The ones that do come around however seem to really like us. Like always they definitely don't seem interested in doing a nut exchange and once again i had to smell that absolutely DISGUSTING odor a few weeks back. Likewise I have come to the possible conclusion that these people seem to look a bit down on us due to our constant sexual activity.

These rosebuds from what we can tell also seem to have some form of government system. They have ranks among themselves but for some reason their bigger leaders are nowhere to be found? There is way too much missing that I need to know. In a few months however then surely we will know enough of their language to be able to effectively communicate with them. And when we do of course our priority will be to gather knowledge and rosestones.
I just hope that our witches back home get a good use of these rosestones because it was really annoying at first to deal with this cold. But if my plans go as I expect them to then we should be sitting comfy very soon.

>>23506525
The rosebuds are quite secretive, but it's good to see the risuners are not daunted by the task. Gambare, get those gems!

Sanalites be advised: Never call a Risuner "tree rat".

>>23504556
>>23506392
The deal's still on the table, don't worry! I'll make a full explanation of the procedure later when I have more energy, but it's available for everyone and doesn't require you to convert to /rose/'s faith.
>>23506525
Fantastic work! I'm really glad you're enjoying doing this, it's a lot of fun writing back and forth with you.

Chapter three of the Risuner/Kronie love story:

https://rentry.org/embhz#kroniicles-of-our-stay-in-risu-volume-xii-part-iii-collapse

Tragedy enters the story.

>>23509400
YAS! I like doing these because it keeps the world interesting. It opens up ideas for other nations to make content with and makes sure something is happening in the world. Writing lore is cool but I feel like too many people do just that and not do anything WITH the lore they have.

>>23510084
o shit. time for more reading

>>23484177
Characterless chuubanite still exists in various countries, unclaimed territories and the northern wastes. The only way to produce anti-chuubanite is to have a large number of schizos in proximity of any chuubanite for an extended period of time. My idea is that since the wastes can't possibly be full of schizo settlements, anti-chuubanite can only be found in caves and villages built by schizos. But a sustained raid can turn some of the chuubanite(especially near the surface) in the recipient country into anti-chuubanite, so say if /risu/ got raided some of the forests would be tainted and became a sort of exclusion zone until the raid is stemmed and the thread returns to normal(a new bread being baked).
I like the idea of anti-chuubanite weakening chuuba magic and having various effects based on how it is refined. The only effect stated in the rentry is that shamans can use artefacts to make more schizos but I didn't elaborate on how they actually cast magic. This can be it.

>>23510437
I don't know what to think of characterless chuubanite, but I suppose it doesn't matter that much as long as other chuubanite can also be transmuted into anti-chuubanite. I also like the idea that raids themselves can turn chuubanite into anti-chuubanite until it's reversed.

>>23510437
Ah this is a pain, I understood that the way chuubanite is supposed to work is that absolutely anyone can use it, the thing that changes is the techniques used to handle it and its enviroment, right? /risu/'s chuubanite gets affected by the forest and viceversa. This is because chuubanite absorbs force (or energy or whatever) and this force can be expelled in some way, the clearest example of this was Sakuran and /kfp/ using heated chuubanite as a flamethrower equivalent, heat would go in and they'd expel it in the shape of a weapon. Chuubanite is already supposed to be characterless.
This removes the need for any anti-chuubanite, as schizos would simply use their own techniques to use it instead of directly modifying how it works. For example, maybe schizo chuubanite could be modified into a gas not unlike that of /morig/ and /meat/ that drives victims into insanity instead of this weird anti-chuubanite shit.

Ok, so this is a question mostly for /nasa/ but I just woke up and had the craziest idea: We haven't really done anything with the giant block of chuubanite we have on the station. So what would you think if said block conveniently went missing at the end of the arc, setting us for civil war arc season two: Heretical winter

Wanna ask this now, before I finish my chapter, so it's not completely out of the left field in the last chapter or something. Idk, I need opinions

>>23511014
I don't think we established where chuubanite got its energy from, but so far it seems chuubanite is (mostly?) associated with specific vtubers, which in turns is implied to be what makes different chuubanite have different effect - /meat/ chuubanite binds with organic matter and quickens cell cycle; /meat/ chuubanite binds with plants and accelerates growth; /morig/ chuubanite creates coldness, and so on.
I think anti-chuubanite can technically be considered a kind of chuubanite, just one that's considered anathema to most other vtubers and thus chuubanite. It probably drives people crazy in a specific manner that makes then schizos.

i really like when you guys go full crazy with scientific stuff meanwhile risu trees go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr we grow fast
>>23511294
im guessing you mean /risu/ bonds with plants kek

>>23511014
I second >>23511294, in that my understanding is that anyone can use X-attuned chuubanite, but X-attuned chuubanite is a different thing from Y-attuned chuubanite.

>>23511014
I would say there's still a need for anti-chuubanite as it's the stuff that makes people mad and taints the land. The refinement process is only meant to make artefacts that gives the shamans magical power. I also meant to have some prolonged raids absorb the local population by them consuming the tainted water and corps and be purposefully transformed by using artefacts. The shamans are the ones who are posting bait and such in the thread. Think of the shamans like the vampire counts in warhammer and normal schizos as the skeletons and such they summon. If you successfully deny them of supplies and manpower they would windle and scatter. Not unlike how threads deal with them by ignoring and reporting.

>>23510437
anti-chuubanite as a concept has been debated for a very long time. personally, i dislike the idea of the mere presence of a faction making other people's chuubanite change on a chemical level, such that they need to go through the whole process of remaking all their chuubanite technology. i also don't like the idea that the mere presence of followers would change any aspect of chuubanite, either. if you want schizoium it must be a physical element, not just chuubanite in the hands of schizos, and if it can weaken chuubanite effects, it must either do so only on contact, or else it must be very temporary. one idea for what element it would be is something that is also very good at binding with vitubium, that on contact can force any chuubanite to become a different, more stable form of chuubanite, probably with lead. if it is nonlocal, it must be temporary, and will likely be caused by an energy that interferes with the natural chuubanite energies.
>>23511294
>I don't think we established where chuubanite got its energy from
i have suggested on multiple occasion that it comes from a different dimension, comparable to the warp. idk how many people disagree with this, but they aren't all that vocal about it.

>>23511226
The meteorite is locked with the vault, which is locked by the master code. The only way for the meteorite to go missing would be if somebody stole the meteorite before locking the vault.

>>23511798
i think chuubanite probably works like mana and that its just in the air. similar to maybe the aether from xenoblade or fuck it even the force from star wars

>>23511801
>>23511226
As for the meteorite itself I had an idea where you can synchronize another carved meteorite chuubanite with the meteor to create a wormhole "anchor". What this means is you can create a one-way trip wormhole where you always pop out where the anchor is. But it seems like we're sticking to rocket fuel chuubanite for now.

Ok, so I haven't really been keeping up with the chuubanite discussion, since it was happening while I was at work during the week, but here is my two cents:

1. Living beings(humans, animals and plants) act as conduits for the chuuba's power. That power is not alligned to anyone in particular, it is the raw stuff that composes the "divine realm";
2. Natural Chuubanite is inherently not alligned with any chuuba, and can only be used as an energy source, like in the current archived proposal
3. By handling the unalligned Chuubanite a certain way, something which certain animals and plants do naturally, it can be alligned to a certain chuuba
4. Schizo Chuubanite is also created this way, but unlike Chuubanite alligned to other chuubas, it acts not upon the physical world, but the flow of energy that is always passing through us from the "divine realm". My contorting and twisting it corrupting our very souls, creating a new schizo.

>>23512047
but, chuubanite is already in the air, the question is how it gets it's energy. my proposition that i have been holding for a very long time was that it came from a sort of conceptual universe. idk any other interpretations, so maybe we can do a vote or something on whether or not this should be the established energy source until further notice, or until someone has a different interpretation.

>>23436932
Please anchor at the end of the /morig/ Military Equipment Compendium.

## Personal Equipment
### Death Masks
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>>23511294
>I don't think we established where chuubanite got its energy from
warp suggestion is one of them, the others so far have been the enviromental reasons for it.
Vtuber specific chuubanite has been described as result of circumstance by a few generals, /morig/'s chuubanite is related to the volcano in some way, we can probably get some strange interactions of thermodynamics to explain it, maybe the chuubanite absorbs the volcano's heat and that cools down the island. /meat/'s chuubanite is always related to flesh, i remember a suggestion for it being that the chuubanite bonds with the flesh and that's why it increases regeneration, basically a healthpack, in this case, maybe we can add things in like special plants and medicines that encourage regeneration to /meat/'s chuubanite.
>>23511668
There isn't a "need" for anti-chuubanite, existing chuubanite can be fucked with enough to make it into nerve gas and the like.

>>23512047
>midichlorians joined the chatroom.

before i go to sleep. aether or "pure" cosmic energy. that could possibly explain chuubanite? power of the stars?

>>23511798
The transformation takes time just like how the chuubanite of X-chuuba won't suddenly become Y-chuuba's chuubanite when it end up in that country. Since the effect takes time and has a limited range not all of the chuubanite would be transformed into the anti variant just from one raid. So say a huge chuck of chuubanite vein undergound would need to have hundreds of schizos living in close proximity for years and years to be transformed into anti-chuubanite but the stray chuubanite particles in soil can be transformed in mere days and weeks. So your chuubanite staff of flame throwers wouldn't be completely useless when facing schizos. We can also make it so the effect dissipates quickly once the raid is repelled and rites can accelerate that process(e.g. making a new bread). The weakening effect can be limited to artefacts that are purposefully built for such purpose.

>>23512460
NTA btw.
Just seems unnecessary, another way of doing it without character specific chuubanite would be to force the chuubanite to expel the energy it holds and inject it with whatever new energy is desired, having what is the equivalent of psychic powers to change chuubanite at a core level and induce insanity just does not sit right with me

>>23512296
Just realized I was the editor for the military equipment compendium kek.

>>23512281
>>23512423
At the risk of being trite, I kind of assumed the power of chuubanite came from chuubas. Keep it simple and elegant, you know?

NASA has figured out how to make rockets out of nornal chuubanite. Now NASA has to figure out what properties space chuubanite from meteorites have. I am open to suggestions as long as they are not overpowered like total gravity manipulation. Orbital gravity might be allowed.

>>23511801
Considering the researchers were still working hard on it, and the lockdown came without much warning beforehand, it should still be in the research departments. Which are not locked in any way, since the doors didn't lose power or anything (vault would still be unlocked as well). It's just that everything in those departments lost power, so there isn't any need to go there, making it extremely easy for a group to smuggle out a rock, specially when most of the inhabitants would be outside the station in the following weeks.

>>23513990
coolant maybe? i'm not sure what coolant even does in rockets

>>23513990
Didn't we go with purely mechanical ways to produce rocket fuel? Our chuubanite effect should still be up in the air, specially since we didn't get a good idea that wasn't completely overpowered yet

>>23514168
Perhaps in an unauthorized experiment outside the station we find out the meteorite can orbit smaller objects around it like a star or planet? Its still subject to Earth's gravity and can't float on its own.

>>23514509
if there is chuubanite meteorite floating in space, then it is surely exposed to inmense sunlight, so maybe something like that could be used for it.

>>23514324
>>23514365
We used nuclear rockets from the vault. But instead of uranium we used chuubanite. It doesn't give us enough push to lift us out of orbit. But it is enough to bounce the station and set it properly. Also the rockets will be useful for making jet-powered sleds for winter.

>>23512460
we have already established that some schizos can blend into non-schizo territory. and i agree with >>23513009 that psychic powers should not be able to change chuubanite at a core level. i also dislike this inconsistency in how shizonium or whatever it's called dissipates, or how it works in general. my compromise to you is make it so that chuubanite, when it binds to lead, starts to interfere with nearby chuubanite effects immediately as soon as it is in range, and stops interfering with it immediately when it is out of range, with the effects getting progressively greater as you get close to it.
>>23513631
1) not every thread has a chuuba, or just one chuuba. they have a concept. 2) if you had a conceptual realm, the concept of a specific chuuba would be included, as well as the concept of a corpo, indie, fetish, 4chan project, etc. etc. the idea is dynamic, and gives us a hard magic system that should help us in figuring out what is and is not possible, and if so how.

>>23514365
Iirc the nuclear propulsion style rocket is mentioned in the lore entries of /nasa/.

>>23514852
>1) not every thread has a chuuba, or just one chuuba. they have a concept. 2) if you had a conceptual realm, the concept of a specific chuuba would be included, as well as the concept of a corpo, indie, fetish, 4chan project, etc. etc. the idea is dynamic, and gives us a hard magic system that should help us in figuring out what is and is not possible, and if so how.
My point was just that the energy comes from the chuuba, however many that would be. All the general are at least linked to chuubas, whether in general or a specific subset. You could say it comes from concepts, provided that all the concepts are intrinsically connected to chuubas.

>>23514808
Doubt it. This meteorite is too "structured" to be some asteroid floating in space. It has gone through some sort of refinement process. Whether that process is natural or alien technology it is unknown. One guess from a researcher is that this meteorite survived a black hole. We proceeded to bully him by laughing in his face.

>>23515325
i meant it as meta commentary but alright

>>23515325
Fun fact: the purest and most geometrically regular natural metallic crystals form in space, because there they are allowed to cool slowly over millions of years.

>>23514509
One thing I was thinking about was if our chuubanite would start up nuclear fusion under right conditions, similar to a star, just on a infinitely smaller scale. It would fuse elements, releasing energy, until it reaches iron(at which point it would need to use energy to fuse even further down the periodic table). That way it could be used as a source of energy once we get the infrastructure going, as well as a source of iron. If someone is more knowledgeable about this subject, feel free to debunk this.

>>23515598
We already have fuel for the other fusion reactors unless said fuel got destroyed in the crash. Just need to start the fusion.

>>23515598
Basically a cold fusion catalyst? As a concept, it's a bit boring, it's basically just a source of free infinite energy. And producing iron this way is impractical, our planet is >90% iron by mass so at that tech level it's more effective to just mine.

>>23512134
this was my second suggestion, but since it requires people to agree with the heavenly/divine/conceptual realm concept, which i made, i feel weird trying to tell people that we should take it as the established magic system, even if i think it's by far the best one.
>>23515287
>All the general are at least linked to chuubas, whether in general or a specific subset.
you'll have to stretch the definition of that to the point of meaningless. correct me if i am wrong, since i don't exactly involve myself with /nasfaqg/ that much, but /nasfaqg/ is not tied to any chuuba, it is not tied to the concept of a chuuba, and it is not directly tied to the concept of multiple chuubas. it is tied to the concept of multiple currencies backed by the actions of various chuubas, meaning it is a thread about those currencies, with the chuubas merely being what backs them. to be even more technical, it is a thread about a virtual stock market. there was some guy who tried to make this argument in the past, i'm not sure if that was you, but if so, please stop trying to push this idea, it doesn't work, and we haven't even gotten into how we would measure how much energy any given thread would get based on this.

>>23514852
The transformation process takes time and a large concentration of schizos, so the effect won't be apparent if they are blending in.
>>23513009
>>23514852
Regarding The consistency issue the transformation process can probably be dropped. Instead the only way to make artefacts and schizo aligned chuubanite is to refine normal(includes characterless) chuubanite with rituals that specifically give it that power. It loses the "aesthetic" of schizo raids being a sort of force of nature and the damage it does to threads would be limited to the forces transformation using artefacts and pillaging. If enough people still wants it we can probably put it to a vote but I can see the psychic transformation aspect being dropped.

>>23515570
This is true with the other meteorite chuubanite we dug up. But this meteor specifically looks like a giant pinched a huge chunk of space metal and rolled it into a ball.

>>23516328
>please stop trying to push this idea, it doesn't work
No need to put it in those terms, I could easily ask you to stop trying to push your idea, but I don't because this isn't how you conduct a productive discussion. Considering ideas critically is how you do that.
Now, if you checked out /nasfaqg/ (You should, it's fun!) I think you'd see it's very much about the chuubas. Similarly, /#/ is about chuubas, and /horni/ is about chuubas. If the threads were not fundamentally about and driven by chuubas, they wouldn't be on /vt/ the vtuber board. In fact, jannies will remove threads that are not related to chuubas.
Bringing up the energy given to any given thread seems like a fruitless endeavour. I mean, whether we're talking about chuubas or about concepts I don't see how you'd calculate that, unless it's completely arbitrary, or like, based on thread statistics like IP counts and such.

>>23516561
inducing insanity and interfering in chuubanite energy is possible, i just don't like the way you are suggesting it be done, nor do i like the fact that you want to be able to change the physical world with purely psychic energy without going through some process of giving that phychic energy an actual reason to have a physical effect.
>>23517098
you say /nasfaqg/ is very much about chuubas. is my interpretation of what it is wrong, and if so, how? if my interpretation is accurate, it is not about chuubas for the reasons i specified. it is about a vtuber themed stock market, but it's the stock market that the thread is chiefly about, not the vtubers. the fact that vtubers are involved makes it relevant to the vtuber thread, but it is only thematically vtuber related. same with the minecraft server, and even this thread we are on right now. you need to argue a little in bad faith to say every thread on /vt/ is tied to a chuuba, or subsect of chuubas, and that is why i told you to stop pushing the idea, because it doesn't work. your suggestion was
>the power of chuubanite came from chuubas
and now you are arguing that that it is a fruitless endeavor to try to calculate that power because everything is arbitrary on a world building thread, where we are only dealing with concepts anyways. your suggestion precludes the ability to quantify it "simply" or "elegantly" whereas mine gives us a more indepth explanation for things that not only can make calculating a concept's strength simple and elegant, but that we have in fact already discussed some time ago. all i'm saying is that i can't see any area where your explanation is competitive with any other, or even simply not having an explanation in the first place, so why try to push it if, after considering it from a critical standpoint, it clearly doesn't work? also, i would say /#/ is about chuubas, since the thread subject is a fewer number of steps away from the chuubas, and at least some content on /horni/ could be considered being about the chuuba themselves, but usually isn't. you have to do mental gymnastics to argue that every thread on /vt/ is related to a chuuba.

The big question with NASA's meteorite is what will happen when we activate it, if we can activate it? For all we know the meteorite chuubanite only responds to Sana's broadcast signal. Meaning that only when Sana streams can we use the meteorite's power.

>>23518890
The transformation process I had in mind is supposed to be like how characterless chuubanite become chuuba aligned chuubanite. Since the schizo themselves are insane and has the desire to have more people think like them it gives the anti-chuubanite that effect. Having them to go through a refinement process would make it more uniform and less inconsistent yes but my original idea has roots in how chuuba specific chuubanite came to be.

>>23518890
>you say /nasfaqg/ is...
If there were no chuubas, there would be no nasfaqg. The actions of the chuubas affect directly the behavior and events of nasfaqg. The posters are motivated to participate in the general and contribute because of chuubas. One might say the posters are energized by the chuubas. Same goes for /ybc/, or /vtwbg/.
How would you calculate the strength of a concept? A worked example would be useful.
I'd suggest that you not say someone's idea "clearly doesn't work", especially in a topic where whether something works or not is rather ambiguous and objective. It's a bit rude.

>>23519549
What if schizo anti-chuubanite saps energy like a vampire and nullifies chuubanite?

>>23510084
>The risunette's name is Cahya
Huh, I guess it's a name for both genders. A house description, that's fun. Great insight into lifestyle.
So, is /inf/ about to introduce prosthetics to /risu/? Exciting.

Okay okay
Drop anti-chuubanite idea, because the idea of an 'anti-mcguffin' is too cliche plus the concept is reaching into high fantasy territory.
I have a better proposal for Schizonite; it's a type of chuubanite that binds to the negative energy of ANY chuuba. Every time a chuuba rages, cause a yab, starts something bad, schizonite grows/regains energy. Schizonite's ability is to corrupt other vtubium forms by sapping their energy, decaying them, and making them unstable. A chunk of Sana vtubium would explode into cosmic rays, a piece of Kiki vtubium would create horrible amalgamations instead of taming animals, /meat/ vtubium would cause rapid decay instead of fleshkinesis.

>>23521120
I kind of prefer the idea of schizonite having consistent effects regardless of which chuuba the schizo is sperging about, cuz in my experience schizos tend to have the same behavior wherever they are. I don't dislike the idea of vtuber-specific schizonite either though.

>>23519689
as i expected, all you have are loose connections. i take it you think every concept is about humans since humans are the only ones who can think about them. as for the strength of a concept, i gave the analogy of a cylinder with how specific/vague the concept is (ie, how many other concepts are connected to it) deciding how long the radius is, and how commonly the concept can be found as it's height/the total fuel of it. a concept that is specific, such as a single number or sequence of numbers, lets say the fibonacci sequence, has a cylinder with a very large radius, and can therefore burn a large amount of fuel (is more powerful, but runs out quicker) but it also is found just about everywhere (and therefore has a large reserve of fuel, ie, it decays in use at a slower rate.) and therefore concepts such as the fibonacci sequence are ideal, but of course other concepts are either more vague, or less common. for instance, /horni/'s concept is honiness, which is very common, but also very vague. certainly more vague than a specific fetish thread, which might be less common, which is relatively more common, and more vague than a thread dedicated to a corporation, further still an individual chuuba. figuring out how much energy a generator makes is arbitrary without defining what a unit of energy is, such as a joule, but until someone defines such a unit, we can use this concept to at least figure out how everyone compares to each other.
>I'd suggest that you not say someone's idea "clearly doesn't work", especially in a topic where whether something works or not is rather ambiguous and objective. It's a bit rude.
i don't mean to be rude, i just want the setting to be grounded in some degree of realism. your idea is fine if we wanted to disregard realism, but i would see that as a failure of world building. specific stories taking place in universes that only exist as a place for that story to take place in can get away with poorly designed universes with bad world building because the point of making those universes isn't to flesh them out and make them work as concepts, but to have them set in the background and forgotten. good works of fiction will often try to make their setting grounded by using world building to create an interesting universe in addition to an interesting story because making an interesting universe can make your stories even more interesting than they would be without. with all this in mind, i can't help but see your suggestion as being less grounded than mine. you can say it's ambiguous and not objective (i think that's what you meant there) but i don't think you can deny that my idea is able to cut of at least a few more layers of ambiguity than yours, at least in the way you have described it.
>>23521120
i don't think anti-chuubanite as a concept is bad, just that every suggestion so far has done it poorly. there seems to be two interpretations most people take, either it literally does nothing whatsoever, or it changes the way the universe itself works. with the right balancing i think anti-chuubanite could be an interesting inclusion into our setting, with that said, this new idea is way better in my opinion. you could say the doxing schizos kill off some of the mystery of chuubas, but all schizos bring out the worst in the chuubas and their fans, and the negative effect of any given chuubanite allows for more interesting dynamics to play out. with that being said, you should let each thread decide what their negative effect is. personally, the way i see it, it can either be a reversal of their original chuubanite effect, which i think is a bit boring desu, or it can be a negative interpretation of the normal chuubanite effect, representing the toxicity of a chuuba and their fanbase. i can't speak for other threads, so to use /meat/ as an example, /meat/ chuubanite makes things go through the life cycle at a faster pace, which can cause imperfect healing and cancerous growth, but /meat/ gets around this by having skilled medics, but negative /meat/ chuubanite could be even harder to control, think love town or mitty. this represents the fears some people have about us encouraging other people to do bad things, or the idea that we are a bunch of degenerates. this is just a hypothetical example, i'd have to talk with the rest of my thread to hammer out a good suggestion.
>>23522603
schizos having the same behavior wherever they are could have more to do with administration method than the actual effect their behavior incites.

>>23523011
paragraphschama I don't want character specific chuubanite either but at least make your texts readable please

>>23523188
paragraphschama's ideas are fun once you interpret it.
No offense

>>23523188
with the inclusion of the quote breaking up the first part of it, i'd say this one just happened to create it's own pseudoparagraphs naturally, even though i didn't try to make them at all. what are you suggesting that i do? use redditor spacing?

Paragraph-chama just has a case of 'brain going faster than the hands'
It's just doctor's writing. In digital form

>>23523011
>figuring out how much energy a generator makes is arbitrary without defining what a unit of energy is, such as a joule, but until someone defines such a unit, we can use this concept to at least figure out how everyone compares to each other.
Well, that's why I asked for a worked example, because I struggle to see at what step those numbers would not be arbitrary. What would be the ratio in chuuba energy between /horni/ and /meat/?
Also an issue with generalizing the energy generation to all concepts is that this doesn't correlate with the reality of /vt/, we don't have Fibonacci Sequence threads, or woodworking threads, or gravity threads. All we have are vtuber-related threads.
I also struggle to see how chuubanite being powered by chuubas is less realistic than it being powered by concepts. Both require similar levels of suspension of disbelief to me, but the former seems more grounded in the lore of the generals and thematic, where the latter is vaguer and less connected to vtubers.

>/vtwbg/ discussing stories
"Wow! Nice story, anon. I enjoyed it."
"Thanks. I also wrote another chapter involving another thread"
>/vtwbg/ discussing lore mechanics
"FUCK YOU"
"NO FUCK YOU"

>>23523459
I guess decoding can be sort of fun.
>>23523542
Just basic spacing between ideas would work right. I'll try to TLDR it anyways.
>>23523011
TLDR (please correct me if i misinterpreted any ideas.)
First Paragraph:
/nasfaqg/ and /horni/ work on inherently ambigous and vague relationships with the vtubers in question, as opposed to more specific generals who are focused on individual talents and/or corporations.
Just thinking about the chuuba while you do something is not enough, otherwise you end up with arbitrary numbers and concepts.
Quote:
Realism is far more interesting whenever building a world, limitations breed creativity and having a well defined system allows stories and works of fiction to be more interesting and fun.
Anti-chuubanite:
No suggestion as of now has been satisfactory, instead of making it work we could give directly negative concequences to chuubanite in addition to the positives decided upon by the generals themselves.

Is that right?

>>23524008
Can you just be lowercaseanon from now on? Please.

>>23524063
wll, i still need confirmation that i properly understood and interpreted his ideas, otherwise it's useless

>>23524008
>First Paragraph:
seems about right to me, though you seem to have skipped over the explanation of how my interpretation can measure the power of any given concept.
>Quote:
yes, but i also made the claim that my interpretation can achieve a higher degree of that standard.
>Anti-chuubanite:
not quite. the standards for anti-chuubanite have fallen into one of two extremes, but it could work if proper balancing is used. also, his suggestion for how schizo chuubanite can corrupt other types of chuubanite into expressing a negative version of their original chuubanite effect is interesting to me, but i think each thread should be able to decide for themselves how that corruption is expressed.

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>>23523775
shit, forgot to respond to you. /horni/ is vaguer and more common than /meat/, but could be argued to include /meat/ since some /meat/heads are horny, same with /hlg/ in comparison to any specific hololive chuuba thread. /meat/ in particular is pretty uncommon, but the concept of the life cycle is both more common, and more specific. this is where the really interesting part of the concept interpretation comes into play. while /horni/'s concept can be horniness, they could also define it in a different way, so long as it still accurately represents their thread. if your thread concept is one way, and your chuubanite effect would benefit more from another, you can use your creativity to think of a symbolic representation of your thread's concept/culture that would give you a more advantageous concept to work with. this partially answers your next question.
>we don't have Fibonacci Sequence threads, or woodworking threads, or gravity threads. All we have are vtuber-related threads.
1) symbolism. 2) the fibonacci sequence was an example, even if we say we can't use symbolism, a person is a concept. tell me who is gura? describe her to me without comparing her to a concept, let alone without using concepts to explain her, since language is just a method of expressing a concept. anything that can be conceptualized is a concept. 2) we have non-vtuber-related threads.
>if there were no humans, there would be no concepts, the actions of humans affect the concepts they come up with, thinkers are motivated to participate in thinking of conceptss because of other humans, one might even say thinkers are energized by humans. therefore, every concept is about humans
>I also struggle to see how chuubanite being powered by chuubas is less realistic than it being powered by concepts
where does the energy come from. do the chuubas give it to us directly, if so, where are these chuubas? does it come from our dedication to the chuubas, how can our thoughts and emotions be transformed from emotions and thoughts, into real physical effects that change some aspect of reality? my interpretation is capable of doing everything your interpretation can do, and then some, but it also has an explanation for it that is more grounded, which makes it more realistic. your explanation is a single step. "where does the energy come from, the chuubas. where do they get the energy, why does it have an effect, how does the energy get from the chuubas to chuubanite, why are there multiple types of chuubanite effects, etc. etc." you can't explain any of it by merely saying "it comes from chuubas", so it's about as simple as avoiding the questions completely, and it isn't all that elegant at all. your interpretation is not grounded, your interpretation of the lore of the generals and themes is faulty, and my interpretation is not vague, it is broad, difference being that one is confusing and ambiguous as a result of a lack of clarification, whereas the other incorporates a larger breadth of topics while still being clear about all of them. your interpretation is therefore more vague than mine, though i wouldn't exactly call either of our ideas vague. the concepts are a representation of the threads themselves. the energy doesn't have to be connected to vtubers at all, but since this is /vt/ there will be some connection to vtubers, even if it is a very loose and indirect connection such as /nasfaqg/. i never denied that there was a connection, just the idea that every thread in /vt/ is about vtubers, enough that chuubanite being powered by chuubas would make sense. not every thread is about vtubers, just like not every concept is about humans, it requires some degree of either bad faith, or mental gymnastics to argue that everything loosely connected to a topic is about that topic, unless you don't understand what the use of the word "about" does to the meaning of your statement, which i don't think is the case since even though i explained this distinction, you continue to push this fallacious argument.

>>23528014
Anon, you have this tendency of just saying your opinion is better instead of saying why. It makes for poor argumentation.
This doesn't really explain how you would quantify the energy levels. Basically, I'm asking whether you could come up with a number. Because if you can't, your whole argument about "how we would measure how much energy any given thread would get" is moot.
Anyway, I noticed all those questions deserve an answer on your part, so let's set this up point by point.
Where are the concepts?
Where do the concepts get energy from?
How do the concepts energy get to the chuubanite?
Why are there multiple chuubanite effects?
I'll answer those questions from my perspective.
The chuubas are in the Heavenly Realm, and may incarnate themselves in Vitubia occasionally (/here/tubers).
The energy comes from the chuubas.
The chuubas are Heavenly Beings and can tap the energy of their realm.
The energy of the Heavenly Realm comes from the support of beings from the lower realms (/vt/, /jp/, Youtube comment sections etc)
Chuubanite acts as a conduit for Heavenly Energy to leak into /vt/.
Chuubanite may be attuned to a set of chuubas assembled by a characteristic, and this set's size can be any number.
The chuubanite's attunement affects how the Heavenly Energy is transferred to /vt/.

Also, and I mean this in the absolute least snarky way possible, I don't think you know what fallacious means.

>>23528662
>>23528014
It's a bit late to have an autist thunderdome

>>23528744
It's fine, it's dead hours so it's not drawing away attention from valuable discussion. Just makes it so bumpanon doesn't have to bump.

Now this is the /vtwbg/ I remember

[important news]
Deadbeats are sending an envoy to /hag/ posthaste to extract their wisdom

>>23528839
I felt so blessed after this stream. I finished the masks just in time to focus on it.
This entry doesn't really need to exist, but I spent the whole day researching how to render photorealistic diamonds, so here goes.

/morig/ Diamonds
The many diamond mines bored into the mountains of /morig/ provide the island with one of its most prized luxury goods. Diamonds, due to their exceptional hardness, have the highest affinity with Mori-type chuubanite of any known material, and thus accumulate and stabilize the substance while buried under the island. This gives their trademark slight pink tint and fluorescence. The gems are mostly used within the island, and exports to customers outside of the nation are rigorously regulated by the Goddess Faithful, ever careful to restrict the outflow of Mori-type chuubanite. Death Masks and other items of clothing from the rich, powerful and militarily inclined will often feature the diamonds, often as a status symbol, but more importantly to increase the amount of chuubanite found in Death Masks.
Diamonds mined farther from Mont Mori display a more subdued coloration, as expected.

Added to the "Natural Resources of /morig/" document.

>>23528662
you don't have a method of measurement at all, i have a method of measurement, but i'm not going to define the unit of measurement myself. if the fact that i wont define a unit makes my explanation arbitrary, you must think all of math is arbitrary. tell me in no uncertain terms when 0 becomes 1. tell me in no uncertain terms when the symbols we use to refer to each number wrap around into each other. tell me in no uncertain terms what 10 looks like.
>I noticed all those questions deserve an answer
these answers are literally just mine, but made to artificially eliminate anything but the chuubas themselves. the reason the heavenly realm being a universe of conceptual energy makes sense is because the energy can be said to seep out of the chuubanite like steam from a partially covered pot. you have to explain how the chuubas deliver power to the chuubanite, and why. the fact that most chuubas aren't /here/, but you know what, you don't need to explain anything anymore if you're just going to use my explanation. the only difference between our two interpretations is that mine accurately represents the fact that not all /vt/ threads are about chuubas, and yours doesn't. also, name one instance where i said my opinion was better before going into great detail as to why. also, it is fallacious as in it is a fallacy. you are conflating topics that are connected to another topic with topics about that topic, and you are using a form of willful ignorance to avoid acknowledging the distinction. are you honestly claiming you can't see the fallacy in that? or perhaps you are the one that doesn't know what fallacious means.

Alright alright, Chuubanite anons, calm down a bit. Take a few hours to cool down and then come back to the thread. We don't need this devolving into just arguments

>>23529455
Ah, you said that the last time I was arguing with lowercaseanon, we're just having fun cmon. Plus if I let him have the last word it's like I've let down all the Upper Case Letters.

>>23529543
you would let me down, too. this is a fun discussion for me, so i would prefer we get as much out of it.

>>23529262
>>23529615
I can make up a method of measurement if you want. Chuubanite power comes from view-hours per day of the thread's posters/number of posters, there. Obviously this is flawed, because it is too rigid a measurement, just as your calculus is flawed because one would have to somehow come up with a number for how strong horniness is. In the end, either require a degree of arbitration.
Well, yes my interpretation is almost the same as yours, which is why I'm surprised you oppose it strongly. As you say, I can just respond the chuuba's energy seeps out of the chuubanite like steam from a partially covered pot.
I guess the sticking point is that I still disagree there are threads on /vt/ - Virtual Youtubers that aren't about vtubers. Thus, my interpretation accurately represents the fact all /vt/ threads are related to vtubers.
My main fundamental issue with linking chuubanite with concepts instead of chuubas is that it makes straightforward sense that worshipping a chuuba would empower the chuuba. You might worship her because she's thick, as in /ag/, or worship her because she staples her vagina, as in /meat/, or worship her because she has amazing dividends, as in /nasfaqg/, but in the end you're here because of your oshi. If your worship of your chuuba empowered some nebulous concept instead of your oshi, what's the point of worshipping?
Basically, concepts are not charismatic, while chuubas are, which is why they're a more proper object of worship.
Moreover, the chuuba do exist as beings from a higher realm; what's the point of their existence if they have no way to affect our world?

>>23529543
As long as you are having fun, it's ok. I would just hate for this to devolve into pointless arguments that would turn either of you away from this project. Also, not the same anon, he's probably asleep rn

>>23530096
Don't worry, no timelooping here neither of us are kronies

>>23529254
Pretty stones!
Does the infusion of chuubanite give the diamonds other qualities apart from its tint and fluorescence? Do they generate coldness as well, or is it something unique to Mt. Mori?

>>23530591
I don't think we're quite decided on whether heat absorption is something just Mont Mori does, or it's something Mori-type chuubanite does and the Mont is just the greatest accumulation of it in the world. The latter has a nice sense of consistency, we should try to hash this out. Plus diamonds also tend to be naturally cold due to their thermal conductivity, so that would play into that.
I would say it would make the diamonds tougher though. Not harder, you can't get much harder than diamond, but it would make the structure less prone to fractures less brittle, one might say, similar to carbonado diamonds but while retaining the clarity.

>>23530875
>less brittle
Does that mean it can potentially work as scale armour material?

>>23532509
Theoretically, it would be a pretty great one. Practically, the material cost to make that happen is pretty much totally unfeasible. /morig/ has a lot of diamonds, but they're still diamonds. One might find its way at the end of a spear though.

>>23532509
Also, that's a nice piece of art.

>>23524006
>post schizonium lore scrap
>leave thread to watch moonfall with fren
>sleep
>apparently set off chuubanite war
Not gonna lie, I'm a little proud, nora.

>>23533498
Lunaknights were the real WARanons all along

*pump*

horniness is a parent concept to all kinks and sexuality, which is a countable infinite. countable infinites are smaller than uncountable infinites. emotion includes horniness, and therefore is it's parent concept. concepts can have multiple parent concepts, like a stock market and a group of virtual anime avatars, though some parent concepts are less influential on the concept and are therefore looser parents, same can be said for child concepts. the number of child concepts of any given concept represents it's vagueness. a single unit of vagueness (v) represents x number of child concepts. the maximum size of a conceptual cylinder's radius is (p) and represents how much fuel is burned in a single unit of time (t). p has an inverse relationship to v, with p decreasing as v increases, but the rate that p decreases decays at an exponential rate (d). even if v is equal to a countable or uncountable infinite, p cannot go below 0. the height of the cylinder increases depending on commonness and the radius of the cylinder (c*(p-(v/d))) and represents fuel (f). f is equal to some function of c, and is not affected by the height of the cylinder. commonness refers to how prevalent a concept is in the universe at any given time. c can fluctuate with time, such as the waxing and waning of the moon going through the lunar cycle. f decreases at a rate of (p-(v/d))*t. i'll post this and add to it later, but i am pretty sure some of my equations are mathematically incorrect. if someone could help me fix them, that would be appreciated. sorry for being a dumbass. if anyone has any questions about what all this means, just ask.

>>23529895
i'm going to simplify my responce. 1) you clearly don't understand my suggestion. the warp from 40k is a good example. chuubas are concepts, just like literally everything, but also just like chaos gods, and the source of warp magic is not the chaos gods, but the warp itself, even if worshiping the chaos gods can empower their concepts, which is what they are. 2) if every thread in /vt/ is strictly about vtubers, and everyone on /vt/ is here just to worship their chuubas, then every thread on /v/ is strictly about videogames, and everyone on /v/ is there just to talk about their favorite games. 3) if you want this discussion to come to a conclusion, stop avoiding the about vs. related distinction. or are you perhaps scared because you know you can't keep making those arguments once you acknowledge there is a distinction?

>>23535405
also, thinking back on it all, vagueness should actually be broadness here. it makes more sense that way. not sure if i should delete it and make another one, though.

>>23520821
>Huh, I guess it's a name for both genders.
I liked the sound of it and it said unisex when I googled it, I might change it. The problem of living on the other site of the globe and guessing about other cultures.
>A house description, that's fun. Great insight into lifestyle.
Thanks! I really enjoyed writing that part. This is a story about cross-cultural pollination at heart.
>So, is /inf/ about to introduce prosthetics to /risu/? Exciting.
That's part of what is being set-up, yes... I'm trying to be careful when writing, I scrapped a funeral part because I realized I was lore-ing /Risu/ and that was a no-no for me. And the breadcrumbs of resistance to change are there too.

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im awake gentlemen.
>>23500376
Luknights please?

Wrote a bit about /meat/ building material, in parts in anticipation for /risu/'s visit since I imagine some building descriptions might be needed: https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatdraft
The similar climate means the material they have is actually pretty similar, with the biggest difference (apart from scale) being that /meat/ has granite for its biggest and most opulent buildings. /meat/ also makes use of dyes that /risu/ might not have.

>>23538149
Hi risuner (og? 2? I lost how many of you are already here), how /Risu/ and its people feel about tattoos?

>>23535583
Dork
Never stop lore brainstorming

>>23539410
OG here. i dont think they would mind, not exactly somehting i would think about desu. Im going to look up stuff about indonesians in the 1500's -1700 era for more info. Right now i was looking up common stones used in that area especially java

>>23539115
NAISU! If theres one thing i fucking love its when people prepare for a captains log. im actually gonna do lunkight continuation today but definitely want to do the first meat exploration fleet.

>>23539496
so is my math correct? are there any aspects of my idea that you need help understanding? do you have any suggestions? it seems the other guy stopped responding for a while, so idk what to do now.

Are languages anon contributions archived anywhere? I might need to look for something for a story.

>>23540318
Having written others' creation myself, I know well that extra information never hurts. Speaking of which, here are some gemstones and gemstone-like materials that /meat/ likely has:
>Garnet - arguably the only true gemstone /meat/ has in abundance, although it also comes in a variety of colour (picrel), with red being the most common
>Jade - includes both jadeite and nephrite
>Pyrite - also known as "fool's gold", still good for jewelry as long as you don't get them wet too often
>Minor ones include opal, titanate, and agate
/meat/ also has precious metals like gold and silver.

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Alright lets start off with the luknight log. And after that ill finally start getting ready for the meat fleet preparations.

A quick update on rock/stone types. I noticed that in indonesia that blue basalt is used a lot for statues. Others include lavastone, andersite, and limestone. Temples specifically are made of andersite in java. Wonder if these would be found in /risu/ if geo anons would be so kind? Right now were just using wood for pretty much everything. Also was looking more into fruits that risu would have since they dont eat JUST nuts. Food of course (and wood) is our primary export for those who care enough. We grow food at 3 times the speed if grown out of the ground.

>>23543281
I miss geo anon...
>stone
Basalt (including lavastone - blue basalt is metamorphic, which might not be common in /risu/ due to lack of geologic activities) should be available in /risu/, if not too significant in amount. It's an extrusive rock (meaning that it forms by lava spilling out and cooling down), so it could have formed in the ocean and eventually carried to /risu/. Andesite might not be as common, since it's more commonly found in island arcs, which Indonesia is, but /risu/ isn't. The tropical weathering means that many of the stone would have turned into laterite and kaolinite clay.
Limestone is likely to be the most common material on the list, alongside probably sandstone, so those can work for your more permanent building compared with wood.
As for fruits, /risu/ should be able to grow many tropical fruits, including citrus, banana, pineapple, and coconut.

>>23544056
i know laterite is pretty big and has been mentioned before. I completely forgot about sandstone desu. After a bit more research, I saw that limestone as well as granite and marble would be possibilities. I like the look of laterite and sandstone so Ill just say those unless some other risuners have different ideas?

>>23544655
Marble is metamorphosed limestone, which I'm not sure would be present in significant quantity in /risu/. Weathering might also be an issue, although I can't find much information on marble weathering outside acidic environment (although that might also be a problem since /risu/ soil would likely be acidic). Granite is igneous in nature, which also don't form in modern /risu/. Unlike marble, though, granite is TOUGH, so any granite that have been moved to /risu/ and exposed would stay there long after everything else has been weathered away, making them more likely to be present. That said, given /risu/'s still mostly stuck with stone and wood tool, with only a bit of iron tool starting to become available, working granite would be a very tedious process due to the aforementioned toughness.

>>23544949
>tries to write luknight story
>spends all day researching rocks and formation of them under certain weather conditions
typical day for me desu

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Does a general timeline for the setting exist somewhere?

>>23546811
vaguely, yes, but you can write lore for any time period you want. i forgot the exact time period we were supposed to be in at the moment because it kept getting changed so i just stopped paying attention desu.

Have we thought about what to do with NASA's now missing meteorite? Specifically what properties space-themed chuubanite has? Otherwise the meteorite is just more fuel I guess.

>>23546903
Alright, thanks.

>>23546811
>>23546903
The closest thing we've got to a timeline would be this I guess, which was voted on in the last round >>22997058.
Basically, year 0 is the /jp/-/vt/ split and the "current" year is 1120.

>>23546903
The general tech level is set in IRL 1700, although societally we might accidentally be a bit more advanced due to us living in IRL 2022.

Did NASA's stolen meteorite get snatched by mozzies so mozzies can corrupt the meteorite with schizonium?

>>23546903
>>23547095
I was asking because I've had an idea for a story on hold for a few months now and I feel like I should finally try to start working on it. I wanted to check whether writing for an "earlier time" would be fine since the story would happen at around and shortly after the Rushia debacle, which I assume would be a bit in the past by *now* in-universe.

I also wanted to know if there was a timeline so I could check if there were any other important events or stories happening at around that time in case i wanted to reference them, and also for consistency. I've been away for quite sometime and I'm still very out of loop on the recent events.

>>23547545
Yeah for sure anon, we've got a few events occurring in the "past" written out, though they don't really have dates assigned to them. Rushiagate would probably be a few years back in-universe at this point. /meat/ has a cool story that occurs around that time: rentry co/rs3v6
I believe that the decision on fandead's part was that /rushia/ exploded into a radioactive wasteland overrun by schizos and the survivors got to escape to a safe pocket in /jp/ through a portal opened by the event's spiritual energy (And presumably, those survivors have now returned in the Mike thread).

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Nothing feels better than a warm shower after a long day of work. I'm home and full of energy, but I think I'm actually going to dust off the old tablet and draw some ideas instead of write.

>>23549134
risuner X rosebud cuddling session?

What does it say for nations to survive schizo yab and rrat attacks? How would schizonium affect the chuubanite of those nations? Would the chuubanite get stronger? I recall /nasa/ barely survived the graduation rrat only because Sana began streaming again.

>>23549497
I'm not too confident in drawing people (at least, hands and faces and such), but I could certainly try that.

>>23549497
https://assets.puzzlefactory.pl/puzzle/234/423/original.webp

>>23549541
Different threads react to schizos in different ways. If the thread population is high, or very motivated, they can be more resilient and attacks from schizos might empower them through pure spite. If the schizo pressure is just overwhelming and the population is low, they might have to fold and retreat, at least temporarily.

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>>23552152
Somehow NASA managed to survive. It did feel like the brink of death for a while.

And now this thread is on the brink of death again.

>>23554439
It's Mondays anon, pleasu anderstand.

>>23554962
I know its Monday.

Im busy becoming a geoanon at this point.

Republic Owl / Pecпyбликa Филин / République Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク
notes on political system

-unitary presidential republic
-regions have their elected officers participate in the republic (regional divisions still pending)
-still very centralized
-technically anyone can try to get elected
-rough factions and party system has formed (factions will be revised later)
-government departments will often have their own recruiting systems, but have to go by guidelines established by the Republic
-R.I.D. keeps documents on every elected officer
-urban regions are more militant (to increase the industrial power of the cities and republic as a whole)
-rural centers are more economically liberal (to get military demands out of their backs and increase their potential selling yields)
-president has a cabinet of the departments and persons of relevancy

Anchoring
>>23436932
Meant to establish a general vision of how I'll be structuring the politcal system of /who/, up to change as always.

Hoping things go smoothly at /nasa/. However it seems like we're entering a real civil war.

Forgot to mention. It sucks that /nasa/'s deal to buy decomissioned /who/ ships got rejected by the state because we cannot use modern tools to rebuild ships. Also sucks the shipyard has to be 1750's technology with no modern tools allowed if we open it up to the public. /who/ has been kind to us but their patience is wearing thin. The bakery deal is about ready to implode as well. In fact I bet at the end if this deal the bakery is going to fully belong to /who/ with Sanalite immigrants.

rosebuds, i've been thinking about creating a conscript for a while that is read vertically, from top to bottom that's a bunch of roses there's a rose flower at the top, which has "roots" at the end which will indicate tone. The letters will be leaves arranged on a 2x2 grid down the "stem", two on each side, and any combination of those four being a different letter, this leaves (get it) us with 12 possible combinations, because four of them can't really be differentiated from others. I am also going to include a diacritic system, not for vowels but for something similar to japanese or arabic where it makes the consonant different, like germination, voiced or unvoiced, and maybe, MAYBE vowels, but i will likely give them their own letters, who knows, maybe I'll make those thorns instead of leaves.
it looks like picrel (no diacritics yet)
i know roses don't always grow individually like the form of this script implies but i don't care

>>23554439
Sasuga, that's so fucking original conlanganon, how do you come up with this shit?
Not a rosebud but I think this is pretty cool.
Don't know if you saw it, but I finished the mask >>23512296 with an inscription written with your conscript font, looks great! Thanks for the help.

>>23560155
Can we make a song and music video now?

>>23560537
Maybe we can ask /vsj+/ for help, they made a song and MV.

>>23560155
i think you're replying to me. it's my brain always creating shit. which is nice when i need to do something for my art and writing classes, but it also never turns off so i'm always trying to make something new, and scripts are easier than elaborate art pieces.

adding onto the post, i'm also thinking about going along with making the vowels thorns, and then making the diacritics look like a detatched stamen and pistil, with dots that are supposed to be pollen. i think root shapes are going to indicate more tones than english writing does, like sarcasm, disgust, whether or not the information is considered good or bad, etc.

>>23561026
Oops, yep I messed up the reply. Indicating all those feelings with the root (which is similar to the period I guess) is interesting, are there IRL languages that do stuff like that?

>>23559798
HOLY BASED. I love the concept so much, honestly! I'd use the shit out of that, I'm very excited!

>>23561166
there are question marks and exclamation marks in english, asian and african languages have tones but not for indication or emphasis, i don't know of languages which do things like this to this extent but it would be cool to know

>>23560607
Tourist from /vsj+/ here. Its not "they", its one person that is despised in our thread. Just thought it needs to be clarified.

>>23500376
Luknight here, sorry for lateness but I've been busy.

Attempting to grab the opals off the armor might a be serious diplomatic incident. The opal is sign of that Luknight's devotion to Luna. You might be able to swing imports of opals from the mine the armor opal came from, though.

>>23562628
Kek what's the backstory? The video is pretty fun.

>>23562673
Noted thank you. im sure your knights immediately noticed those immense stares as soon as they landed desu

>>23562704
Like I said, its pretty much one guy, called flaggot. Thread doesnt mind what he is doing in here (mostly because they dont care about this thread at all) but every time he went into main thread for suggestions he was boo'ed out. Mostly because he seems to be an edgy teen with germany fetish and poor designing abilities.

>>23563103
Flaggot, great nickname. A few threads have a bit of friction between their /vtwbg/ posters and the rest of the general. This hobby would attract a particular niche of autism, I guess.

I guess I have to be prepared in the instance /nasa/'s bakery in /who/ is declined. Worse comes to worse /who/ can employ exiled Sanalites who have been given tattoos from /meat/. The exiled Sanalites will teach /who/ how to bake bread because fuck the grand directive at that point. As long as /who/ has their own flour then Sanalites can bake bread. This assumes /nasa/ goes back to isolationism because of the civil war arc.

Alright well I learned enough about rocks for one day. Yeah were gonna have a fuckload of laterite. Hot wet tropics is pretty much what /risu/ is and i can throw a few more in there but laterite will be pretty much dominant. Which also happens to make risu a massive iron/aluminum dump if anyone were to be able to mine it. We do have molerisuners that tunnel shit for gemtree farms and all that rock is used for stone tools mostly. Assuming stone axes can have laterite heads which i dont see why they cant. Gives risuners a very unique toolset of oxidized red color.
>>23563381
Abandon protocol and fuck squirrels kek

>>23563531
I know one nation that can make use of aluminum. However to transport ore across seas you'll need at least steam powered ships. Though I rather wait until chuubanite or diesel motor tech advances.

>>23563531
You can probably use gems for axheads, since they're generally pretty hard, and can be fairly durable if you pick ones that aren't too brittle (or just go through them at a speed)

>>23564306
Gems as axe heads are a generally bad idea because of how brittle they are. You might not be able to cut a diamond but you can smash it with a hammer. Bog Iron should suffice for axe heads. Iron's got the elasticity to absorb shocks from impact. Hell a stone or a bone axe would be better than a gemstone.

>>23564595
Correction: I don't know what it is for a metal to bend out and back into shape. Aluminum for example would bend but would not bend back. So its terrible for axe heads.

>>23564595
Yeah, I meant to say before /risu/ has iron

>>23561026
Conlanganon, can I ask you for the /meat/ alphabet? I didn't find in the archives.

New bread: >>23565979