/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Selen. 100%

Ame-Selen Global thread?

>>23478832
The one that isn't your oshi.

Selen has a way stronger work ethic and is willing to reinvest a ton of her income into big stream projects like NijiExpress. Ame has the mind but not the drive.

>>23478888
yes
AME LOVE

Ame this past week alone:
>Says she'll take 3 days off
>Turned into 5 days off
>Delays every stream by 3 hours
>Only communicates all this to her members
Teammates have yesman'd her into a lazy sack of shit

Honestly i like both
But selen is just ame but actually loves her job and works hard
Ame dosent even care about streaming these days you can tell she wants to graduate

>>23478832
Am I not allowed to just like them both?

>>23479134
Kill yourself teafag

>>23478832
Better at what, nigga?

why would anyone prefer a stick like Ame when she can have a nice round and curvy Selen?

>>23479134
That's not even possible. Watching Selen made me hate how lazy Ame is and how Teammates just accept whatever she does.

>>23479084
Dragoons can we propose a trade?
Most hololive fanbases hate our detective and don't appreciate her so:
Do you guys want Selen in Hololive while Ame goes to Niji?

>>23479381
hahaha no

>>23479381
LMAO

ohmaguuuh

what even brought this comparison on in the first place?

>>23479204
>That's not even possible
Not possible? I enjoy both all the time. Taste is subjective though, if Ame puts you off for X Y Z reason then absolutely, watch someone else. She's not exactly metagaming this, in fact I'd say that a lot of the time, she's actively trying to encourage people who aren't okay with the way she does things to just leave and find someone else they actually enjoy. She doesn't want an audience of people that feel "obligated" to stick around, if you're not having fun there're plenty of other Vtubers out there including Selen.

tokoyami towa

>>23479381
https://youtu.be/uo8R6f_FbUI

>>23479567
Gosh teamates are pathetic

>>23479666
It's a nice falseflag, I'll give you that. But the shitposting gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever.

>>23479600
The best answer in this thread, Towa is vastly superior in everything

>>23479447
>>23479497
>>23479621
Why not? Selen will get more views and recognition. We could care less about that.

>>23479740
being in the walled garden is the last thing selen wants

>>23479740
I think Selen enjoys the freedom of collabing with anyone she wants, and HoloEN isn't really popular with their freedom of collaboration.

>>23478832
I like both

>>23480149
Makes sense.
Is there any NijiEN member who would like to join Hololive?
I tried VShojo and they welcomed Ame but i'm not sure i want her there.

Selen is objectively the better streamer and liver. But Ame has SOVL that Selen lacks, though not by much. If I had to pick I'd go with Selen. Ame is cute but Selen is consistently more interesting.

>>23478832
Me

>>23479740
Putting selen in hololive and being restricted with cover’s insane draconian rules will just turn selen into another depressed ame ironically

>>23480548
I want selen to derank me in apex and call me a pathetic "N*ggerF*ggot" so fucking bad dude.

>>23480455
Elira would probably fit in with HoloEN

>>23479084
SELEN LOVE

>>23480617
God i wish you weren't right.
But i stopped watching so much of holoen because it all felt the same.
Everyone's personality just feels like a crappy watered down version of what it should be.

>>23480548
I'd give Ame a try if i could actually catch a stream of hers. The past 4 times I tried something happened like the stream being delayed or canceled. The times it was delayed I only found out like an hour after she had been streaming already so I lost interest.

>>23478832
easy W for the dragon

This is a sad comparison.
Its like taking a depressed dude in a wheelchair from his dark room to fight the sexy track/basketball team captain

>>23478832
Selen could be better if she would just stfu for 5 seconds
Ame could be better if she had better staff support

>>23482046
it's not the staff's fault ame never has anything to talk about. her streams are entirely made up of her making angry gamer noises

Which is better?

Which one feared their fanbase and which one actually treats their fanbase like adults with he necessary tard wrangling.

>>23482143
>never watched ame

>>23482402
i fell asleep during her past member stream making a town or some shit.
i woke up when she said the gator town is for 8month plus members.

>>23482480
it's a miracle you could hear anything after thosands of hours of loud HAHAHAHA on loop for "streams"

>>23482480
>Doesn't like the chuuba
>Membered anyway
Very believable, threadreader.

>>23478832
>could have had a unity apex collab between these two months ago
>omegafaggot and poo in loo noor can't put their egos aside for long enough to allow it to happen
Imagine the timeline where HoloEN and NijiEN (just the girls) were allowed to freely mingle on stream.

>>23482797
imagine if they all had lesbian sex

>>23482667
pick a memberpost and i'll screenshot it for you

at what

>>23478832
>ame have a copyrighted voice break

>selen have a thank you thank you


dunno i prefer ame´s voice crack

Unless Ame antis arent't being honest like myself... i don't understand how she gets so much hate here.
This was posted on global during non Ame hours, Selen's thread, Hooman thread and chumbud thread. The results are still low.

>>23482667
considering how that he finds this entertaining somehow I would actually believe it
https://youtu.be/iJoeH5VVLMc

>>23482869
Latest poll, please

>>23482946
A Teammate has already admitted to botting these
>>23483023
>Vox
There's your problem

>>23482869
Your comment about how much you hate her member stream.

>>23483094

>>23483114
>NijiEN
There's your problem

>>23483114
Chumbud/hooman can't into botting? Even bratz can do that.

>>23483023
>holobronies still seething over month old banter

Is Selen streaming today?

>>23483169
Damn Teammates hate their own chuuba? LOL

>>23483273
>Giving a like.

>>23483114
I botted the ten other yes votes actually

>>23483169
Teammates need to remember they have 7 usual dislikers on their members streams.
I don't know why someone would be schizo enough to pay for content he doesn't enjoy but stop asking for screenshots.

>>23483236
>banter
I'm so sorry for you anon I really am

>>23483327
ARS is a thing

>>23483329
>he doesn't understand banter
autistanon...

>>23483327
>7
Even her "critically disliked" false ASMR stream only has 2 dislikes before YT hides the feature.

>third fucking thread about this
Jesus christ fuck off

>>23483409
>COCKS BRO LMAO
cuckanon...

>>23483169
Are you unironically membered to someone who's content you dislike?
What kind of mental illness is this?

>>23483409
Here, let me give you an example of good banter.

>>23478832
Left is a great holo
Right is a mancollabing niji
Choice is easy: left

>>23483444
>nipple controversy
>stolen merch controversy
>cancelled sponsorships and events
>cancelled concerts
>no 3D for EN in sight
>no live2d updates in sight
>discord leak revealing them seetheposting about their superior rival, marking them as jealous hololive rejects for the rest of eternity
>males crashing yuribait off-collabs as a "surprise"
>Finana openly admitting to lying about it and selling it as a "girls night" despite the male being planned all-along
>comment sections getting closed to hide complaints
>girl streamers getting turned into accessories to the males and forced to exist just as walking collab platforms for males
>literally getting numbermogged by hololive's new INDOGS
>gen2 males are a huge flop
>can't get elden ring permissions
>their biggest streamer fails his subathon endurance stream and cucks out after a mere 5 hours
>Finana has a menhera meltdown on twitter about how nobody draws her in group fanart and cancels streams because of it
>AnyColor randomly tweets creepy vagueposts about "slander" for no apparent reason
>their chuuubas keep having freudian slips about Hololive such as Alban calling Petra "Gura" accidentally or Millie saying HoloJP instead of NijiJP in a tweet, which shows what really lives rent free in their head
>AnyColor literally goes public, to be defiled by chink investors
>Luca gets caught stealing Towa's and Okayu's copyrighted BGM music without permission or even crediting her, takes down his stream afterwards
>"graduation rush" trending on JP twitter because their livers keep fucking graduating one after another
>Luxiem moving to bilibili to complete the chinkification
They need to deflect, please understand. Meanwhile, Ame is drama free.

Who the fuck is Selena?

>>23483484
*Used to like
fixed. im rich so i really don't care. i watch ame when no one good is on.
ame is so flaky compared to everyone i watch that i don't feel bad about shitting on her

>>23483484
he just wants to epically own holobronies anon. see >>23483273

>>23483682
Well, you're a coward too because you can't even comment on her member post/free chat.

Important question though. Is there any vtuber that has managed to capture the same kind of magic as late 2020 Ame? Niji or vshojo, twitch or youtube, I don't care where they are as long as they're good.

>>23480635
why in the seven hells are you censoring niggerfaggot on 4chan of all places my dude

>>23483682
what does vox's cock smells like?

>>23483853
2022 Ame.

>>23483853
Ame was good until mid 2021. Remember how she stopped the livestream playing Outer Wilds for hours until she beat it? That was the first sign of her going down hill. She stopped trying around that time.

>>23483682
This is the most whorish schizo shit i've ever seen

>He paid to shitpost.
>Then brag about it on this irrelevant void.
>When he can post his comment on the member page & Ame reads all the comments.
Ame schizo is even dumber & more coward than deadbeats, & that's a new low.

>>23483489
>banter = playing a game designed to produce humour and bring people together while barely talking to eachother
do holobronies really? really?????

>>23483853
unironically 2022 ame

>>23483853
selen is always good. I wish I found her earlier. I was sticking with Ame hoping she'd get out of her potato state for the longest time. I still hope she gets back to her former self, but right now it's a bit sad to watch her respect her viewers less and less.

>>23478832
depends on your taste and preference. i don't know why everyone here is so fucking obsessed with ranking people, either by popularity, superchats and whatever the fuck.

just enjoy watching chuubas that make you smile.

>>23484094
Really free from chink? You bet, unlike yours.

>>23483853
her ER streams are great

reminder that OP has made the exact same thread 4 times in a row and he is an immense faggot

>>23483682
This is quite interesting. I'm an Ame anti but even i'm not that much of a schizo, holy shit.
You need some meds my guy.

>>23484171
what kind of retarded logic is that
>haha atleast i exclude the largest demographic in the world!!! epicly owned!!! ignore the fact my chuubas can't even have an organic conversation without scripting it!!!!

>>23484075
i didn't member her specifically for this fyi
also
>Members-only live streams
>exclusive mystery watchalongs, osu! mania, karaoke, and ASMR(rotating 1-2 times a week)
lol so much for that

>>23484285
>largest demographic
You mean the largest share holders?

>>23484353
Then go on & say that on her member page. Then I believe that isn't a shop & you just bought it five minutes ago.

>>23484364
no, i mean literally the largest peoplegroup you could possibly target in the world
>1.402 billion people

>>23484353
>i didn't member her specifically for this fyi
sure

>>23483489
How is that banter, or funny without context?
Comparing the two clips, the "I'm so sorry you made a stupid play" was much more funny because it actually got a reaction.

>>23484522
>the largest peoplegroup you could possibly target in the world
Oh god, they gonna speak chink too?

>>23484456
i left a comment shit talking her on this one a while back

>>23484756

>>23484836
???
Where is it?

>>23484756
>gonna
they already do

>>23484888
sorry wrong one
not exactly shit talking but saying i wasn't happy with her being flaky and unprepared for streams

>>23485054
Then post the comment

>>23485054
>moving the goalpost

>>23485054
Nope, I can't find anything about unprepared streams.
Are you gonna move your goalpost again?

>>23485252
Also hiding the like/dislike bar.

>>23485342
>>23485308
>>23485252
>>23485226
Give him a minute! He’s currently buying her membership so he could prove us all wrong!

>>23484146
welcome to /vt/

>>23485417
He posted another member screenshot on catalog

>>23485417
Oh boy, a retarded shitposter has failed his opsec, and there's a totally unsuspicious new membership hanging in Ame's freechat.
I wonder what would happen next :)

k i posted in her free chat

>>23485839
here you go fags

>>23485940
You need to shoop faster, pal.

>>23485940
There's nothing new in her free chat

>>23486051
nah i just used mifu mifu because it's funny having him of all people say that

>>23485940
It's edited isn't it? There's nothing there. I would post something shitty about Ame but i'm not subscribed.
Don't lump me with this retard, i'm an anti but i'm not that much of a faggot.

>>23486306
You can comment on her video without subscribing & it's free. She will still read it.
But of course, you're too coward for even that.

>>23478832
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, ID NEVER LOOK AT ANY WOMAN OTHER THAN YOU

bump

Selen is better. End of thread.

>>23480617
>cover’s insane draconian rules
What rules? Don't blame cover for ame being a boring streamer.

>>23489363
>>23491899
>not a new IP
are you this desperate OP?

>>23478832
Why are you watching a chink vtuber?

>>23478832
OP should eat a permaban for making this thread not 1 but 3 (4?) times.
>>23480838
>Everyone's personality just feels like a crappy watered down version of what it should be.
wdym by watered down?

>>23492048
nobody said she was boring because she isn't. also cover does seem to block some collabs

why must nijiniggers seethe?

Teammates can't even defend her being lazy anymore

>he keeps making the thread
>>23479381
>Most hololive fanbases hate our detective and don't appreciate her so
Just like Selen on the NijiEN thread, unless she does a collab with the homos

>>23483853
2022 Ame

>>23484013
>>23484131
She has been out of her burnout arc since late December
> it's a bit sad to watch her respect her viewers less and less.
ogey retard

Ame.

>>23483545
White-knighting Ame by throwing dirt at Niji, huh?
Also, Niji talents do not think the same so you cannot lump all of them.
Millie is more familiar with HoloJP than NijiJP so this is not surprising.
When you mock the Niji with new HoloIndogs, you are also mocking the older gen Indogs. You really want to throw them under the bus to defend Ame's work ethic?
I believe subathon endurance streams only work when they show off ads. I rarely stop adblockers but there was one time it stopped and I saw an Ame ad when I clicked her own fcking stream. And it is a 1 million subscribers countdown
And Hololive was whoring off China before the Coco incident happened. Heck, without China, they won't be big in the West.

>>23483545
No of those things are important to me since i only watch Selen
nice try though

>>23480455
Finana
not because of the obvious "holoreject"
but cause she craves validation in form of big audience and fanarts
So I say she would abandon the ability to stream chink gacha games for hololive

>>23496949
>Heck, without China, they won't be big in the West.
kek

>>23495908
Ame's only had 3 consistent weeks before she took her '3' day vacation. She's already back to moving and delaying streams. Somehow she's gotten even worse at a streamer though when it comes to engaging and entertaining chat. She has nothing to say 90 percent of the time and she barely reads and responds to chat for anything other than directions.

>>23495436
?
no one hates Selen on /nijiEN/ only her dragoons
the "hate" she gets is the usual She's Fat/Bad at apex from holobronies lurking there
Unless we consider the small selection of schizos trying to make the rat "selen and elira dont like each other" as hate

>>23497271
I guess you dont know how chinks and/or chicom fans did a hard work making fansubs in English. Remember the fansub account that deactivated after they voiced their condemnation over the mention of the name "taiwan"? They were the biggest fansub channel at that time. It just happened that they are chicom suckers.

>>23497403
>no one hates Selen on /nijiEN/ only her dragoons

>Constant dogfucker post
>Constant fat shit every time she is mentioned
>Every time someone ask about Selen they call her obnoxious
>There is barely any discussion about her unless she does a collab with the homos or a special event
sure mate

>>23483545
>Name companies drama
>Meanwhile, Ame is drama free
What Selen has to do with niji dramas/flops?
Just like Ame she is drama free
and just like Niji, Hololive has dramas that are completely unrelated to Ame

>>23497403
you have to be actually blind or delusional

>>23497365
ogey

>>23497365
not a single thing you said was true. amazing

>>23497551
>>23495436
>>23497690
Thanks for outing yourself as the falseflagger. Saving these posts.

>>23497545
>hard work making fansubs in English
you mean when they did shit translations for a quick cash and suddenly wanted hololive fans to stand against hololive in favor of china. the ones that wanted to punish coco even more despite the fans disagreeing completely. I do remember it muck like a lot of people that still hate the zhangs

>>23478832
I used to think Ame was better until she became a lazy bitch who delays and cancels all of her projects because tummy hort or something. Selen has a much better work ethic than Ame at the moment and it's not even debatable.

>>23497924
>falseflagger
faggot please, I'm a Dragoon and those shit happens.... are you the retard who got mad at this on the main thread?

>>23497779
ame jokes about being lazy and a potato every stream at this point. you even have potato emote. how the fuck are you still denying it

>>23497924
>that time when a holofag came to the thread asking about selen overwatch 2 stream and most of the replies told him to go back to /haha/
yep, you are delusional
>saving these post
for auto-owning yourself?

Thanks for confirming it. Also saving that one.

>>23498205
>ame jokes about being lazy and a potato every stream at this point.
and? oh no she took a 3 day break then she streamed 7 times in 5 days. the horror

>>23498580
>3 day break
if you cancel streams the day before going on break and the day you return, that's a 5 day break

>>23498293
Don't give him more (You)s, he is that guy on denial on the main thread calling you tourist
>Barely any comments on her Bioshock streams
>0 comments on her tangents
>House of the Dead stream made the thread went full schizo, actual Dragoons stopped posting
>Facry, Ghostwide, even the collab with Alban barely got discussed

>>23498667
they were never scheduled
shs streamed two weeks straight and then took a 5 day break before streaming 7 more times oh nyo the horror

>>23498667
she never scheduled that stream anon. and now she will stream 11 times (plus one idk stream at the end of her schedule) in 9 days. what's your point?

>>23498580
i wouldn't mind if she stuck to whatever she says. she's always canceling and moving streams around due to some excuse. she doesn't even say gluten hort anymore because she knows that well is dried up. she literally said on stream she'd always been lazy. so basically the ame we got in 2020 and the first half of 2021 was her faking it until she got burnt out.

>>23498773
>>23498801
it doesn't matter, she still should do what she says. what's the point of saying it at all then

>>23498840
> she's always canceling and moving streams around due to some excuse
but she isn't
>she literally said on stream she'd always been lazy.
and? she still streams a lot

>>23498977
i don't know how you can watch ame and not admit she moves things around like crazy.

>>23499045
>and not admit she moves things around like crazy
I don't think 15 minute delays are worth seething this much. otherwsie it's not so much of a thing as you claim it is

>>23498840
wow anon you cracked the code she was faking her gluten allergy cause she hates streaming
> the ame we got in 2020 and the first half of 2021 was her faking it until she got burn out
she didn't fake" anything she enjoys streaming and had a burnout arc that is now over

>>23499138
>15 minute delays
she's literally delayed streams from 6pm to 2am multiple times.

>>23478832
OP, you're comparing an apple to a piece of shit. Ask yourself, are you really a feces watcher? Why is your life such a tragedy?

Amelia Watson wins easily over the garbage 3view

>>23499324
>Multiple times
Only did twice

>>23478832
Both are Good. I love both.
They're both two of my fav chuubas from their respective Corpo Agencies.
I want to see them both Collab someday. Eventually...

>>23499879
Never happening. Hololive will never officially acknowledge Nijisanji

Anyways, I'm watching her Potion Craft stream right now since there is no Selen today.
I hope one day... they finally collab but I'm inhaling too much copium

>>23501412
Please enjoy Ame's cuteness!
If we believe long enough, maybe our schizo dreams will come true and they'll collab.

>>23501412
>>23501700
aside from /vt/ becoming a shitfest
could you guys endure the awkwardness that collab would have?

>>23501991
Selen would dominate Ame. Teammates would get upset with their supposed leader kneeling to Selen.

>>23501991
I've watched Ame collab with her JP senpais 1on1 and it turned out well. I'm sure it'd be fine.

I'm watching Ame now. This is really boring. It would be better if she had stories to tell.