/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

males don't count stop moving the goalpost

>>23477195
>Nina Kosaka $18,101
/vt/ bros you told me she's an irrelevant slut and a leech with zero gachikois.
Why is she making more than all the girls?

>>23477195
And this is not even counting streamlabs, some of them like Pomu and Vox have like 5k+ in streamlabs donations

>>23478353
because she leeches the fujo audience from the males. she's an honorary luxiem at this point

>>23477195
>Yugo Asuma $16,052
Why so low? All the other Luxiem/Noctyx livers are in the top 9 except for Yugo.

>>23478391
People were saying fujos will only pay money to males

>>23478483
because it's a woman with a man's avatar

>>23477195
Sana's 5k are a lot for how little she streamed, no?

>>23478353
she's one of the only girls who actively work with the algorithm, she post small clips and instas and constantly gets new viewers.
She likes to pretend shes a boomer and doesn't know shit, but she probably is the most read on how to grow a channel

>>23478483
Woman debuff

>>23478483
not just woman debuff (s)he actually sucks at streaming too and a lot of fangirls hates her especially the nips

>>23477195
>Nanashi Mumei $13,120
>Gawr Gura $11,313
Looks like people prefer new Pepsi over classic Pepsi

________NijiCN_________
and just Ame+Bae's merch sales alone gets made more

>>23478704
The fucking irony of Holofags using the merch cope against Niji because they get more SC, kek

>>23478917
NijiCN, doesn't count

>>23477195
>Gawr Gura $11,313
I still don't get how a girl with nearly 4 million subs can be pulling SC numbers this low

>>23479002
she doesnt beg for sc like mori and pomu

>>23477195
The fact that Vox had as much superchat as all HoloEN combined is really astonishing

>>23477195
What timezone is the cutoffs from?

>>23477195
>NijiEN
male>female
I Can't help but feel alot of the niji females are sexist against men. Besides Nina, since she milks them for colabs. And they only collab with the outright "gay" acting males.

>>23479047
Nor does she consistently read them. Like she needs the money anyway.

>>23479089
he had like 6 arbitrary celebration streams just in april lol

>>23479002
Completely different business models. If you send Ina 500USD she might still not read it. While Chloe or Rushia spend countless hours with abysmal CCV reading SCs. Superchat reading kills CCV but grows SCs. Gura is heavily focusing on her members content and growth.

>>23479224
thinking gura is focused on any channel metric rather than just fulfilling contractual obligations is some next level cope

>>23479047
Have you watched Pomu?

Does youtube not have TTS for donations? it would completely eliminate the need to a whole fucking superchat thanking stream

>>23478967
Cope

>>23479281
Mysta use it, but it's kinda awkward to have TTS enabled when someone donates 'Mori's condom fees' and have the robot say that on stream.

>>23479267
Yes. She's one of my favorites in NijiEN. She baits SC a lot.

>>23479281
Finana and Nina has got it in NijiEN

>>23478649
All those dead subs dont have jobs and money to spend on sharkie

>>23479331
How did she beg for superchats this month?

>>23479089
Oh no no no holobros, how did your talents flop SO BADLY?

>>23478140
>>23478704
>>23478967
Holy cope

>>23479224
Stop kidding your self she dosent even stream anymore

>>23479331
Then post proof of all the times she baited for superchats.

>>23479441
I cant because getting called out without any proof goes against my narrative and can lose me the arguement

>>23479318
https://files.catbox.moe/sbqcjh.mp3

>>23479373
>>23479441
>insert sob story here
If you watched her, you would know what that means.

>>23479500
>no proof
Expected as much

>nijijp has low sc numbers
>It's because it's a small portion of their pay and they don't care about it!
>nijien has high sc numbers
>LMAO HOLOLIVE BTFO! COPE COPE MERCH IS MEANINGLESS ONLY SC!

>>23479513
Even if I posted proof you would dismiss because you're a niji tribalist. It's a waste of our time.

>>23479543
I would concede you victory if you posted an example of her baiting SC in April. But you can't do even that.

>>23479538
>Implying holoniggers don't do the same thing

>>23479543
Do holobronies really?

>>23479575
>nijitribalist
>i would concede
lmao

death to all nijiniggers

>>23479331
The streams Pomu got big superchats from this month were her MGS streams, where she doesnt really Read superchats and have minimal baiting, her unarchived Karaoke where she didnt read superchats and did no baiting, and one Minecraft stream where one of those "free superchat" memes started and she got a lot. I guess you could say she could have ended that if she turned off her superchats, but if you watch it it is not like she baited it

bro why does the chart include males though noone watches them here
shouldn't it just be nijiEN girls vs HoloEN girls am i missing something?

>>23479612
keep seething for being called out holonigger

>>23479652
>though noone watches them here
it's all nijiniggers watch tho

>>23479652
>moving the goalpost
Sasuga holobronies

Can't help but respect the balls of NijiEN's boys, leeching off the rich female bugs is high risk high reward, there's a good chance one of those nijien boys will end up with his dick on some crazy slant's trophy stand if they're not careful.

>>23479652
LMFAO HOLOCOPE

>>23479281
kys for suggesting this, I watch Uruka from Phase and I hate it

>>23479586
>holoniggers do it
>that means it's okay for us to do it too!
Congrats on being even worse than holoniggers.

>>23479690
>sucking vox's dick this much
nijihomos are something else man

>>23479680
>>23479690
>>23479705
easiest (you)s of my life

>>23479636
Pretty sure she was reading superchats the whole stream yesterday but go off.
>she baited during minecraft but it's not like she really baited it
like i said, you would dismiss it

>>23479500
>insert sob story here
Yeah lol I am sure you watch her a lot.
The only times in Pomu's streams you can she has a sob story is during her wagie quitting arc and one single stream after her surgery.
She doesnt have anything close to a sob story this entire year

>>23479652
You forgot that they're comparing earnings of 20 people vs 10.
If they wanted to be more fair it'd just be the top 10 which would still be more, but nijifags can't into math.

>>23477195
It's not that En flopped, it is that the western audience doesn't pay and especially not for GFE/BFE.
Look at everyone that consistently ranks high, all of them exploit GFE/BFE (Rushia, Lamy, Vox, Nene). The real exception was Coco.
Additionally, Vox gets Chink money, there are just too many Bugs on this planet.

>>23479759
Why are holo's l2d models so shit? They look like a bunch of floating textures unless the model is situated completely straight. All the money Cover is making and they can't even afford decent l2d modellers?

>>23479617
Eventually yea,
But we will die with our streams happy and able to freely stream what they want with out the Holo leash making them bleed viewers

>>23479773
twice as many people made four times as much money

>>23479744
What if I told you I'm a girl or bi?

>>2347977
>10 v 20
You don't need to because Vox has higher SCs than all of HoloEN combined

>>23477195
Ehh, kiara is 2nd, that's kinda impressive! Hard worker > lazy ass talented

>>23479943
Kiara deserves to be the #1 en vtuber desu.

>>23479875
>you're either gay or a chink fujo
fitting for the nijiEN fanbase I guess

>>23477195
All of NijiEN has streamlabs too, so they get even more donos than HoloEN

>findom apologism thread
Any simp who has donated even 1 penny to vtubers is no longer a human being in my eyes

>>23479970
lolno fuck that backstabbing whore, it's obvious she prefers niji to HOLOLIVE that fucking two-faced backstabbing bitch

>>23479885
>$163,901>$177,171
Wow thanks anon, I never knew that's how numbers worked!

>>23479885
>women doing math
lol

>>23479975
This. Pomu made like $10k in streamlabs in April.

>>23477195
why are male coomers so fucking poor?

>>23479652
why wouldn't I watch the males? Do you seriously think their entire audience is female?

>>23479970
>#1 en vtuber
Roru no, but she deserves to be #1 holoEN vtuber

>>23480166
that or gay.

>>23480245
I only watch luca and he avoids all that gay shit

>>23479543
Loooooool bruh you got caught with your hand up your ass you got BTFO’d get exposed

>>23480166
>Do you seriously think their entire audience is female?
you don't?

>>23480166
>Do you seriously think their entire audience is female?
I mean, male gays exist too. But mostly, yeah.

>>23480268
>>23479764

>>23479825
nobody respects you >here, reddit, twitter, facebook, 5ch, my country version of booru, your JP branch, your EN audiences, chinks, everyone with braincells
the only thing you are good at is stealing fujo money. have fun rotting in the deepest circle of hell and die. i will make sure that every nijinigger suffers from their actions

The absolute state of NijiCN

>>23480355
>i will make sure that every nijinigger suffers from their actions
i love dramatourists' chuuni larp so much

>>23480261
Isn't Luca just vtuber xQc

>>23480427
>that one chink trying to speak English
At least there's 1 good chink...

>>23480355
Now say that again without crying anon

>>23479730
Doesn't matter, I will make sure that every holonigger suffers from their actions

>>23480553
>>23480355
based

>>23480444

The EN "fandom"

Sana made more than Reimu I love you Reimu but it's still funny

>>23480730
nijiwomen lmao

>>23480446
pretty much. probably why i like him

>>23480711
>>23480427
this is vox only right?

>>23480355
Lol pls make us suffer.
we have an extreme lack of suffering due to our streamers, so you can give us some of yours from how HOLO your streamers are

>>23480711
>Newest development is that Alban joined Pomu's side, which is a 180 from their initial standing. He probably felt bad about trolling her and he definitely respects her too much to get on her bad side (the fact that he memorized the Kahen Sanren mix for DCL says a lot).
>So this leaves Nina, Elira, and Luca on Pomu's enemy list... Although Pomu and Elira were having heart-to-hearts with each other in the very next stream after "the start of the war", Elira has also been subtly supporting Pomu throughout the whole war, calling her "Sheesh Pog Based Pomu" while questioning Nina's action.
>Also Luca felt bad about taking it a little too far, it doesn't help that when he pranks Pomu she would often self-destruct, making things seem a lot worse than intended. He's starting to distance himself from Nina.

>So we have:
>Team Crimepuff:
>Pomu
>Alban
>Petra (unofficial recruit, will follow Pomu over anyone else)

>Team Fox:
>Nina
>Luca (might turn neutral or completely defect at any time)
>Mysta

>Neutral
>Elira (complicit with Nina, current standing is unknown)
>Sonny (he just wants to play the block game peacefully despite having the power to end the war)
>Shu (will follow wherever Elira goes. still friendly with Pomu)
>Vox (autism, doesn't care about anything but his build)

>(Neutral)Arms suppliers:
>Selen (TNT and tech supplies)
>Uki (Potions seller)

>Chances are Elira, Shu and Luca will join Pomu in the near future.

>>23480446
More like XQCs streamsniper but he seems actually wholesome

>>23480427
I’m going to get good at fanart so he will rt it on Twitter and then change my username to tianamen square copypasta

Holokeks seeething?
Holokeks seething

>>23481112
>extreme lack of suffering
>chinese

At this point its just sad seeing how badly holo is managing their talent.
I wish holo could thrive more, but the seiso mold they force everyone through is only so malleable

>>23482199
you got me, i loled
I don't even know what you're trying to say.
Sasuga hololard

>>23482295
holo talents really lack aspirations. they seem to be content with sub numbers.

>>23478353
No, seriously. Why would you compare males to females? It's not the same market. You think if Luxiem didn't exist, fujos would be throwing their money at Pomu or Selen?

>>23482129
Hololive reject?
Hololive reject!

>>23482990
>proving his point
Holobronies are retarded as well? No surprise here.

>>23478353
>Why is she making more than all the girls?
Nah Nina made really good money this month but both Selen and Pomu made more, by different means.
Selen streamed on twitch a lot and got a lot of donos there, and Pomu got way more in streamlabs than Nina.
Also this for some reason doesnt seem to count Pomu's MGS2 finale in april even though she for meme reasons did the stream on april 30ths and ended the stream before midnight

>>23483281
>Nah Nina made really good money this month
The only reason for that is because she had the 6 months anniversary buffs. First a full Ethyria collab only on her channel and then a solo stream.

The nonschizo answer is that there have been less HoloEN members streaming this month, so naturally their numbers are lower

>>23482295
>but the seiso mold they force everyone through is only so malleable
That's pretty much self imposed. I'd say the larger issue is that they just do the bare minimum for 90% of their streams. Like damn it took them almost 2 years for their first true offcollab, whereas everytime I look over at Niji they are doing some sort of "special" stream every week like eating hot noodles or some other shit that garners lots of views and SCs.

>>23483421
Imagine having to worry about having no streams to watch.
t. Nijichad

>>23483421
They are streaming less because they are making less money, they are makingl ess money because they are streaming less. It's a vicious cycle.

>>23478353
She has high IQ, unlike most of the girls in this industry

is she (gura) back yet I miss her

>>23483202
mad hololive reject?
mad hololive reject!

>>23483421
I mean they've been doing worse in SCs for a while now.

>>23483434
>Collabs and special events constantly
you say this like its a good thing.
its a pump and dump scheme that burns people out.

>>23483591
Since have I wanted to become a vtuber? I think you might be genuinely mentally challenged. Might want to get that checked out bro

>>23483616
honestly I think the vtuber fad will die soon so they are making the smart move

>>23483707
That fad might die, but it as a whole won't.
So things like this just reeks of people cashing in while its hot and not giving a shit about the community.

>>23483500
>Less money
When Ina been streaming Elden Ring for like a month now hahaha, you guys just can't accept the fact that the whole Myth can stream with SC closed because they can afford to, unlike their any of the nijiENs hahaha. Their Omocat merch alone are worth millions, enjoy your keychains haha

>>23483751
>merch cope
roru roru rumao

>>23480427
and? you faggots suck chinese dick before the taiwan yab happen, also chink fujo's pussies > smelly chink otaku's dick

>>23483591
Seething holobronie?
Seething holobronie

>>23483751
You understand that collab merch means the vtubers themselves barely got any money from those sales, right?

>>23483822
At least this guy is functioning enough to realize his post actually makes sense

>>23483591
make more money than you
cope

>>23483796
Yeah right, how many times did Omocat soldout and restocked??? Haha am I the one coping??? Kek

>>23483861
Who cares about the girls
My oshi is the company not the talents
Once they graduate for being deadweights to my almighty tribe they will cease to exist in my eyes

>>23483681
>>23483873
>deflecting after half NIJIEN was outted as being here
fuck off fulgur

I wanna post Mori's album sales for April but that's gonna invite more schizos.

>>23483861
Yes, but with niji IPO release, we all know that merch easily doubled streaming profit overall (vods, donations, etc). So what's your point?

>>23483976
Fuck off im not covid! im risu

>>23483903
holocope rumao

>>23483900
ching chong ping pong for you too zhang

>>23484031
>Merch cope
>Holocope
Cant rebuttal my Omocat merch profit? Hahaha, I'll give you another one, Gura nendo, about 4x in which it got soldout and restocked. Now you can say nendocope hahaha

>>23484001
My point is that merch cope is just that - a cope

>>23479538
Kuzuha and Nagao earned more than any HoloJP this month, anon.

>>23483434
lol yea self imposed.
Ask Haachama and coco what happends when you dont impose it on your self.

>>23479775
So you mean the western audience isn’t all pathetic lonely simps?

>>23483616
>>23483707
>>23483746
same person
No one on this board thinks this.

>>234841611
Maybe for your livers in niji since all you've been getting are keychains, not in holos custom merch though kek

>>23479992
This

>>23484167
>this month
exactly

>>23484263
Last month it was Gaku that earned more though.

>>23484161
You know back when nijisanji was doing the cope, they'd post deron explicitly saying that superchats are an extremely small portion of the profit she makes.
Back when nijisanji was getting smaller superchat numbers everyone would talk about how the merch, ads, sponsorships, and concerts, were their bread and butter and superchats were just a small tip on the side.

funny how that gets ignored now.

>>23479775
>Doesn't pay
Falseflagger? Mori and Kiara are over 1m in SC, Gura 900k, Ame 600k, Ina 500k. Their biggest, Vox is in 500k... Yeah I know the prior are in the scene longer, but saying they aren't paying is dumb

>>23484263
>>23484298
OH NO NO NO HOLOKEK HOW WILL YOU COPE NOW???

>>23484330
It's almost like both sides have retarded shitposters, and in the end all of these vtubers are swimming in money while you slave away in your miserable 9/5 job.

Why are blatant shitposting/troll garbage threads not ban worthy again? This board looks like complete shit every time something happens, holo or niji.

>>23484153
COPIUM MAXIMUM RUMAO

>>23484298
>>23484398
same as nagao he had a 3D debut after years of streaming. the top 10 is still usually half holo jp

>>23484330
Back when Niji are doing the cope, Holos are dominating in merch too. Plus holos got proof using their site before it got patched. Just seeing Miko 500k merch in a single day says a lot. While Nijis proof was a picture on Lawson with an almost empty tray of merch. There's a difference

>>23477195
>Finana $9,766
>Ina $7,616
Takos…Ina is getting btfo by a literal egirl right now

>>23484468
Hahaha, use my nendocope it's funnier kek. Love the keychain btw wahaha

fyi Mori's album sales + merch sales made more than everyone in that tally combined. That's just for April.
>b-but cope
>m-merch doesn't count
yeah yeah SCs are pennies anyways whatever bro

>>23483751
this. it's like the saying if rich people dropped money on the ground. it wouldn't be worth their time to stop and pick up.
this thread just shows how bitter nijienfags really are so much so that they need to cling to such a meaningless metric in order to shit on hololive

>>23484702
>>23484639
yeah yeah, just coping more bro

>>23477195
>Ouro Kronii $11,113
This is getting sad, she could have made bank on voice request streams.

Hololive panders to seaniggers the most, this is why they keep getting the biggest numbers for subscriptions and viewers. Seaniggers are poor and do not have money and would even struggle to pay for membership too. This is also why we get more Holobrony schizos and shitpost threads during SEA hours on /vt/ too, they just have so much free time and no money they use it to defend their oshi on the internet and to game the system just to obsess over numbers.

In comparison NijiEN appeals to the middle class members of society in both the west and the east, the young working professionals who have a ton of spending money but nothing to spend on. This is why they have lower amount of numbers but way higher amount of money gotten.

This is the best explanation of the discrepancy.

>>23485140
NijiEN has a huge seanigger fanbase…

>>23485217
>huge seanigger fanbase
You mean fagelira and famillies? At least Millies is understandable.

>>23485217
SEAnig or chink, stick to god damn one narrative already, you seething faggot

>>23485140
I unironically believe this

>>23485352
Finana and Millie, idk about Elira. There was a hot Elira fan at the convention.

>>23485140
>Seaniggers are poor and do not have money and would even struggle to pay for membership too
hololive has 7/10 most superchatted channels in the world anon. even if you ignore the current top two that are not even part of the company anymore (one that didn't stream in a year)

>>23484553
Niji's proof is that Kuzuha's album sold more than Suisei.

>>23485690
source?

>>23485646
Yeah in HoloJP where they pander towards professional working adults and ignore EOP. I'm talking about HoloEN specifically.

>>23485733
Oricon charts.

>>23485760
at least post them

>>23485383
Males have a chink fanbase, some of the girls have more seanigger than western fans. But as a whole, I see more white people watch Hololive while Asians prefer Nijisanji.

>>23484603
Elden Ring not being monetized does this.

>>23485140
There's a graph in /#/ showing every HoloEN SC currencies with 60-70% USD except for Bae who's SC is mostly Korean Won. While we all know most of the niji males SCs came from bug land. So you might've gotten your rrat wrong

>>23485845
She has other sources of income also

>>23485140
The NIJI threads are literally the most alive during SEA hours..,

>>23485736
>HoloEN
still wrong. most of their currency is in USD. also the heaviest hitters in nijien pander exclusively to chinks and not westerners

>>23484458
"HOLY SHIT BROS, THESE NUMBERS ARE LARGER OR SMALLER THAN THESE OTHER NUMBERS, WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!???!???!?!"
The essence of /vt/.

>>23486097
Honestly I just wanted to complain about how shit nijiEN has turned.
It really does suck as some of their original fans.

>>23486087
Their no.1 chuuba will stream in BB, don't be baited by this falseflagger. We all know who dominates the NA market

>Join NijiEN as a dude
>Get worshipped by asian chicks
Hey, this sounds alright. I'm gonna work on my reps.

>>23486032
No, they are the most alive when Pomu streams, where it literally becomes /pomu/. And as we all know, Pomu's fanbase is 90% borgers, brazilians and east asian sisters.

>>23486152
Lazulight fans suffer…at least they have a nice small general

>>23485794
https://imgur.com/z01NO2t

>>23483943
based unity chad

>>23479002
Because all cumbuds are children or man-children with no job.

>>23486329
isn't the second one on the almbum chart suisei's and the first one a multiple niji one that doesn't have kuzuha? I didn't see her on the second chart

>>23486205
Or just be Pomu, whichever is easier.

>>23485140
nice cope nijibug holoEN audience are just smarter and know how to spend their money (see the charity, merch sales, memberships, etc) while nijiENfags are deranged seaniggers/chinks that just want to have attention of their stremers via mom's credit card
and the most important thing: every HoloEN has talent, your whores/manwhores don't. I don't know how can anyone be able to ever respect nijiEN with this fact still exists, thus you won't achieve anything with these conversations nijibug.

>>23486574
imgur link has kuzuha's number, I'm not not going to open paint and edit this, he basically sold more than her during just the first week, I don't know his total number sales, it was 250k or something, but I didn't save the pic

>>23485961
>except for Bae who's SC is mostly Korean Won
Does she have a big korean fanbase? Or why does she get more Won than dollars? Seems crazy

>>23486664
>>23482129

This dude

>>23486686
still if the oricon chart is to be believed suisei's last year album is at 350k units sold

>>23477195
since the bugs blew all their money in april what happens this month?

>>23486943
that pic I posted is the oricon chart, she sold 33k, altough I don't think that includes digital media.

>>23486943
>350k
335k sorry

>>23487064
What happens if this continues to May?

>>23487075
I added a 0 there on every number

>>23486576
Man its crazy how i can pick every member out and i know something about them or can say something of substance about their personality.
I'm glad there not a mesh of the same water down personality from gen after gen after gen.
Its like they really think out their debuts and care about their members

>>23486032
>during SEA hours
that's also chink and japan hours tho

>>23486747
KRbros love Bae. She gets pretty good CCV whenever she streams in KR friendly timeslots and lots of KR superchats. They even want to try and get her into one of their conventions.

>>23487209
japs post on 5ch, so its a bit irrelevant.
on SEA bothers to come to 4chan.