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>> No.23432851
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.23433161
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FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>68,110: Nagao (Nijisanji)
>44,012: Warabeda (Nijisanji)
>33,940: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,632: Marine (Hololive)
>31,001: Hal (Neo Porte)
>29,715: Miko (Hololive)
>22,003: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,652: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,431: Nui (Nijisanji)
>15,365: Kobo (Hololive)
>15,071: Noel (Hololive)
>14,231: Towa (Hololive)
>14,063: Ponpoko (Indie)
>13,820: Chloe (Hololive)
>13,049: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,756: Shu (Nijisanji)
>12,740: Riri (Nijisanji)
>11,962: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,828: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,341: Nose (VSPO)
>11,195: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,314: Ina (Hololive)

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*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes:
>15450: Kobo (Hololive ID)
>7006: Ollie (Hololive ID)
>3330: Reine (Hololive ID)
>2969: Ollie (Hololive ID)
>1497: Kaela (Hololive ID)
>1206: Reine (Hololive ID)
>1054: Mika (Nijisanji)
>1005: Kaela (Hololive ID)
>995: Iofi (Hololive ID)
>957: Reine (Hololive ID)
>914: Mythia (Indie)
>637: Nara (Nijisanji)
>583: Anya (Hololive ID)
>543: Riksa (Nijisanji)
>267: Zen (MAHA5)
>220: Siska (Nijisanji)

>> No.23433410

/#/ is declining

>> No.23433519
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>> No.23433562

Seeing Miko's stream is still blocked, they should play it on Twitch for games that have copyrighted soundtracks. But, still weird how SME owns one of the soundtrack of the game.

>> No.23433674

>Pekora doing calls to action and posting shorts

Seems she's a little scared right now

>> No.23433706

Ah, peace

>> No.23433715
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Thread is early and civilized, here is the usual end of the month Median of Peak CCV chart for April 2022
> "Ayame line" as usual set on 5 streams meaning only channel with 5 or more streams qualify
This includes every qualifying streamer that is tracked by either of
>Holostats
>Mado
>vstats
>vrabi
and, by consequence, it doesn't include twitch streamers

Here it goes
>pic related
with the usual 10 comments

1) Aqua leaded the month with an ABSURD (and I think, unprecedented) 70.5k+ median. I don't think this could be replicated at all, her hype and her numbers on VSakyou were just out of this world
2) Marine follows with 39k+, a number that could easily be at the top in any other month, but not in this one
3) Kuzuha, Pekora, Toya, Subaru, Miko and Suisei complete the 20k+ list
4) A recently returned Kanata and Gura complete the top 10, with the later being the highest ranked non JP as usual
5) There are 27 channels over 10k, with 18 from Hololive (4 being EN) and 9 being from Nijisanji
6) For the first time in a while no NijiEN had a median over 10k, with Vox being just short of that mark with a 9959 median
7) Highest ranked Indie this month was Shigure Ui, with a 9,3k+ median, leading Gatchman by a small margin of a little over 200
8) Hal and Tamaki are the other two from the minor companies in the Top 50, representing Neo Porte and NoriPro respectively
9) The top 50 has 29 channels from Cover (with 8 from EN), 17 fro Anycolor (with 3 from EN), the two above mentioned indies (Shigure and Gatchman) and the two abov mentioned minor company channels (Hal and Tamaki)

and the punchline
10) Lauren is back with a vengeance, being the highest ranked Edengumi in the list with a 7362 median. After being all but confirmed for dead he's back and with a strong presence in the top 50 ranking

>> No.23433747

Gura should post shitpost shorts. I want to see some numbers.

>> No.23433770

>>23433715
>leaded
LED! Damn ESL lads worsening my perfect command of the english language

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>>23433706
Peace diz nuts!

>> No.23433828

>>23433674
What I'm seeing is that since she wants to refrain from streaming too much this year compared to 2021 and 2020, she makes up the lack of streams with that kind of Shorts. She also sometimes asks the viewers to subscribe to her channel and to follow her on Twitter.

>> No.23433830

>>23433674
Of?

>> No.23433834

>>23433674
why she would be scared

>> No.23433872

>>23433830
>>23433834
Marine getting more subs than her by the end of 2022/reaching 2M before her.

>> No.23433886

>>23433715
Also helps that Aqua more or less refuses to do normal stream, keeping her median peak absurdly high.

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>>23433715
>Highest ranked Indie this month was Shigure Ui,

>> No.23433926

>>23433674
Pekoras shorts seem a bit 'low energy'. If Pekora shorts matched her overall vibe she they would be doing Marines numbers

>> No.23433997

>>23433715
GO SUISEI.
Also, funny how Miko and Suisei are always together in the lists

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>>23433715
>Koyori
>57 streams last month
>Still top 50
I kneel

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>>23433519
>11 みけねこ
>12 Gawr Gura

>> No.23434080

>>23433872
Don't see it happening, she's only 70k away. Even if Marine gains at a high rate, she'd have to gain a lot and very quickly as there simply isn't much wiggle room within the time it would take Pekore to hit it. More likely to overtake her several months down the line.

>> No.23434093

>>23433872
i doubt she would care that much tbf, especially being marine the person doing it

>> No.23434111

>>23433519
Translation on this for EOP? My google translate app can't translate this shit

>> No.23434211

>Chloe's new song numbers
Ooph. Why is it that EN gets such ridiculous song numbers compared to JP? Only people who seem to compete with EN are Marine (by pumping up ridiculous amounts of money into MVs) and Suisei (by being the absolute music holo).

>> No.23434241

>>23434111
Come on mate, your kana reps, 80% of that is in kana

1) Aqua
2) Marine
3) AZKi
4) Kuzuha
5) Pekora
6) Toya
7) Subaru
8) Mko
9) Suisei
10) Kanata
11) Mikeneko
12) Gura
13) Shion
14) Noel
15) Ayame
16) Ponpoko
17) Korone
18) Botan
19) Mio
20) Mumei

>> No.23434254

>>23433715
What I am noticing from this is that most Nijisanji JP members stream very little compared to their Hololive and Nijisanji EN counterparts.
Was that always the case or is this a recent trend? Were they streaming that sparsely even back in 2018-2020?

>> No.23434372

>>23433715
>NijiEN's stars fell below 10k
Not looking good, especially for Mysta who's had a few huge stinkers. Reminder Mysta hides all his debuff streams on twitch and is still reclining. I know you're reading this Mysta, be afraid.

>> No.23434399

>>23434211
i love chloe but i prefer to loop her first two ogs 5 times a day than to listen to the new one. it's a EN song but you can barely even make of what she is saying

>> No.23434410

>>23434241
Arigatou gojaimazu

>> No.23434424

>>23434254
A lot of them aren't fulltime streamers and have another job.

>> No.23434472

>>23434372
Why do debuff content at all if you're obsessed with numbers?

>> No.23434544

>>23434424
that was the case for 2019-2020 too tho. niji jp has been slowing down on stream hours in general since 2021.. it's just that you have some very dedicated streamers (kuzuha, ibrahim, fuwa...) that make up for most of the branch

>> No.23434593

>>23434372
Well "natural recline" can only be determined if we observe multiple months worth of data.
If you notice the most recent graphs that graph anon posted, or any older graphs for that matter, everyone has months that are a bit better and months that are a bit worse. It's not a constant incline or recline.

Luxiem though, outside of Shu and Ike, need to work on their streams and their content more and solidify a fanbase that's not only there for the big events. I was hoping Mysta's TF2 stream was an attempt towards that direction but I don't know.

>> No.23434623

>>23434472
he thinks is not debuff at the time.

>> No.23434649
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>>23434623
Go back

>> No.23434675

>>23434424
how is that the case, people keep saying you can go streamer full time if you have a few hundred viewers and in one of the biggest corpos you get merch, sponsors etc

>> No.23434813

>>23434675
They may be thinking that streaming wouldn't do them any good on the long term, even more so when you're obviously in a company that prioritizes the top talents over anyone else.

>> No.23434941

https://youtu.be/J-2uaAyChew
Numbers…

>> No.23434953

>>23434254
>>23434544
The reason for the hours decrease is the increase of shows/idol shit. The top male performers are all being shoved into idolshit and music and albums and have less time to fill their playlists with 12 hour streams.

>> No.23435027

>>23434675
That only apply to holo

>> No.23435039

>>23434399
She really fucked up releasing the EN version instead of the JP one. Her fanbase is basically all JP anyway, so idk what she was thinking

>> No.23435062

>>23434941
Anyone else streaming? If not 10-12k.

>> No.23435207

>>23434813
i guess it's fair they might just want to do it as a hobby

>> No.23435323

watchtime

January
>ホロライブ 17,353,835 (2228.3時間) 808枠 Hololive JP (2,228.3hrs, 808 streams)
>にじさんじ 14,425,653 (4588.0時間) 1,594枠 Nijisanji JP (4,588hrs, 1,594 streams)

>ホロライブEnglish 3,626,369 (585.5時間) 215枠 Hololive EN (585.5hrs, 215 streams)
>NIJISANJI EN 3,174,294 (1438.6時間) 396枠 Nijisanji EN (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)


February
>にじさんじ 17,134,515 (4742.3時間, 1543枠, 平均3,613人) Nijisanji JP (4742.3hrs, 1543 streams, 3,613 avg)
>ホロライブ 16,821,702 (1880.5時間, 643枠, 平均8,945人) Hololive JP (1880.5hrs, 643 streams, 8,945 avg)

>NIJISANJI EN 3,972,676 (1264.1時間, 336枠, 平均3,143人) Nijisanji EN (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,021,167 (439.3時間, 146枠, 平均6,878人) Hololive EN (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)


March
>にじさんじ 19,021,707 (4865.0時間, 1532枠, 平均3,910人) Nijisanji JP (4865hrs, 1532 streams, 3,910 avg)
>ホロライブ 18,232,365 (1878.3時間, 718枠, 平均9,707人) Hololive JP (1878.3hrs, 718 streams, 9,707 avg)

>NIJISANJI EN 6,283,717 (1892.4時間, 514枠, 平均3,320人) Nijisanji EN (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 4,907,065 (615.4時間, 180枠, 平均7,974人) Hololive EN (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)


April
>ホロライブ 19,843,432 (2148.7時間, 693枠, 平均9,235人) Hololive JP (2,148.7hrs, 693 streams, 9,235 avg)
>にじさんじ 16,426,680 (6280.0時間, 2180枠, 平均2,616人) Nijisanji (6,280hrs, 2,180 streams, 2,616 avg)

>NIJISANJI EN 6,449,716 (1983.9時間, 503枠, 平均3,251人) Nijisanji EN (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)
>ホロライブEnglish 3,886,364 (529.2時間, 177枠, 平均7,344人) Hololive EN (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)

>> No.23435339

>>23433715
Can we kill the "council is a failure" memes for good now?

>> No.23435370

>>23434813
I don't know if she still does it but I remember Kagura Mea being questioned why she worked a part time job despite being the top SC independent streamer, and her answer was basically that the idea of her paycheck being completely reliant on wether her viewers felt like watching/donating to her made her feel insecure about it. Plus the whole going out and making irl friends deal

>> No.23435442

>>23435323
Literally a meme metric specially that april one.

>> No.23435506

>>23434241
GO MUMEI GO

>> No.23435534

>>23434472
He probably actually wants to do something that isn't a buff once in a while
the males have an issue in that their audience doesn't like video games

>> No.23435607

>>23435534
>play videogames at NA/EU time
>do gimmick streamm on asian time
man that was hard.

>> No.23435732

>>23433715
Damn Towa nearly passed 10k median and didn't just spam only buff stuff.

>> No.23435769

>>23435323
Not even the biggest effort on Kuzuha grinding like a madman put NijiJP ahead this month, but if you pick individual chuubas you see how much he carries

>Kuzuha January watchtime:
総視聴時間:1,025,132

>Kuzuha February watchtime:
総視聴時間: 2,247,005

>Kuzuha March watchtime:
総視聴時間:4,130,820

>Kuzuha April watchtime:
総視聴時間:2,798,497

>> No.23435816

>>23435323
ちなみにID・KR除いたにじさんじ Excluding exNijiID & exNijiKR
16,005,543 (5031.9時間 1679枠 平均3,180人) Nijisanji JP (5,031.9hrs 1,679 streams, 3,180 avg)

>> No.23435828

Mysta passing Fauna in subs today. Holo subs are on a significant crawl, market capped ?

>> No.23435876

>>23435732
apex during a tournament is a huge buff

>> No.23435888

>>23435828
Susan cull

>> No.23435929

>>23435828
according to the talent they get culled daily now.

>> No.23435958

>>23435607
The problem is he doesn't really have NA audience.

>> No.23436010

>>23435958
well none of the boys do outside maybe shu.
UKI needed 6 other people on his srteam to just scratch 9k

>> No.23436022

vtubers have an incredibly limited selection of games that bring viewers
boomer shooters? no
strategy games? no
JRPGS? fuck no
it's all Apex and budget horror and minecraft and no one wants variety

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>>23433715
And here is the 1k plus list, with another set of ten comments

1) The number of tracked 1k+ channels continues growing, with 214 this month
2) 7k no longer puts a channel in the top 50, with Luca being in that position with a 7018 median
3) 3k doesn't put a channel in the Top 100, with kson being in the 100th position with a 3243 median
5) Ange was the highest ranked Nijisanji girl this month, with a 11397 median
6) Nose was the highest ranked VSPO, with a 5874 median
7) The streams over 1k had 21 Indies, 12 VSPO, 6 Neo Porte, 4 .LIVE, 4 774 Inc, 3 Brave Group, 2 Nori Pro and one of each WACTOR, Virtual Cinderella Project, VOMS, Sinsogumi, GuildCQ, CloudHorizon, RK Music, Unicreate, wethernews and Propro Production
8) Warabeda ended her Nijisanji career with a bittersweet good median of 5531
9) Selen had her record high month in April with a 3642 but that was **still** not enough to beat Sana, which tauntingly secured a 3842 median with her very last Kirby stream

and the punchline
10) Kobo had an EXCELLENT month with a 5936 median, outranking Kiara, Luna, Nose, Reid and Shu, to mention a few

>> No.23436073

>>23436010
that's pretty good considering most of those people were noctyx

>> No.23436085

>>23435732
She was understandably spamming Apex during the period of the biggest tournament so far, it was a massive buff.

>> No.23436134

>>23436073
>6 people collab
i wouldnt call it good but beggars cant be choosers

>> No.23436163

>>23433715
Jesus christ what happened to Bae that she couldn't even make this?

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>>23436062
WAIT WAIT WAIT, missed 4
4) Moona finished the month with a magnificent 5159 median, which would be a first for her branch if not...
(and then refer to the punchline at 10)

>> No.23436275

>>23436062
>Sana wouldn't be trailing if her median was a mere 1k higher
Huh, that's pretty good actually. Hope she maintains her current activity.

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* FINAL FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

- 30 April Peak
> 17,438 : Miabyte (EN Indy) ( Front page stream )
> 14,788 : VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
> 14,226 : Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
> 11,986 : Ironmouse (EN VShojo) ( 9,284 double raid)
> 10,675 : Veibae (EN VShojo)
> 10,129 : Shoto (EN Indy)
> 8,478 : Snuffy (EN Indy)
> 7,265 : maoruya (KR Indy)
> 7,124 : Shoto (EN Indy)
> 6,969 : Lina Vermillion (SP Indy)
> 6,782 : stal (EN Indy)
> 6,660 : Melody (EN VShojo) ( 3,410 double raid)
> 6,552 : kson (JP Indy) ( 3,790 double raid)
> 6,059 : Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
> 5,728 : Shylily (EN Indy)
> 5,647 : Mysta Rias (EN Nijisanji)
> 4,725 : Froot (EN VShojo) ( 2,883 non-raid)
> 4,388 : Nimu (SP Indy)
> 4,088 : Froot (EN VShojo)
> 3,696 : Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 3,480 : Gosegu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 3,155 : zrush (CN Indy)
> 2,498 : anny (EN Indy)
> 2,249 : Saruei (EN Indy)
> 2,167 : Ikumi (EN Indy)
> 2,137 : MurderCrumpet (EN Indy)

Miabyte takes it again by appearing on the Twitch front page. Got 200 followers out of it so, it's adding up.
Snuffy had her re-debut/new model stream.
Lina Vermillion had an actual debut.
stal who rose a couple of days ago with the FF14 event has become a regular. Mysta, Chihiro and kson as well.

Stacked day. Tied for the most 10k+ streams of the month at 6
Every single 10k+ stream would have been gold yesterday, over the 10,009 peak stream Ironmouse won with.
One of only 3 days where all 3 medalists were 14k+, along with the 3rd and 19th.

Pretty late because i'm working on the monthly digest.
Turns out twitchtracker is also unusable with import and i'm not gonna sit here to learn the Twitch api for 1 damn table.
No peaks average because of this. There's too much to go through and they're very deceiving due to raids.
Might do a top 10 tomorrow at best.
Veibae and Ine will still be at the top no matter what.

>> No.23436386

>>23435828
Market cap, -200k cull from debut, no chink sub bots.

>> No.23436500

>>23435876
>>23436085
Are you talking about startend? Only two of those streams last month got above her normal solo apex peaks and one of those was only thanks to the umamusume race. Her damn Splatoon 2 collab got a better peak than all but those same two startend streams.

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>>23436062
>Reine is now the 4th strongest indo
I kneel to the queen

>> No.23436546

>>23436163
only streamed half the month and also not a lot going on outside zatsus.

>> No.23436564

>>23436351
This "Miabyte" is a tranny and some kind of Twitch ambassador for vtubers or something like that? Has no real following to speak of and got stuck on the front page. Something something representation?

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>>23436062
so Vox and Mysta are finally leveling out?

>> No.23436647

>>23435323
that's one insane mogging, 3x less hours but 2mil more

>> No.23436689

>>23436163
I don’t know what’s a shocker.
1. She does an absurd amount of superchat readings/chatting streams
2. She had to take breaks because of personal life
3. Erratic streaming schedule
4. I don’t believe she has streamed a single time this entire month where she hasn’t been overlapped. In fact, in many cases she makes streams right in the middle of 2-3 active streams.

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>>23436564
At least 3 Vtubers got the push in the last 3 days, yes.
The other 2 are KR girls so, not sure how/what Twitch's selection process is for these.

>> No.23436904

https://youtu.be/QYhMVf79flo
2K perms being actually used, thank god

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>>23436062
Sui-chan finished really well with how badly the Apex tournament was dropping her numbers.
Those last 2 streams came clutch.

Toko also clutching 10k, just 1 above Lize.

>> No.23437016

>>23436904
Thank Ame for the 2k perms

>> No.23437026

>>23432786
is Goldship an honorary Holo now?

>> No.23437038

>>23435339
They still are. They have the holo name and this is their output.

>> No.23437095

>>23437016
if only she could get psychonauts perms

>> No.23437155

>>23436689
>>23436546
>>23436163
Bae is a tragedy. Probably the most energy coming in, ready to die for Hololive but she just doesn't have the natural charisma and fizzled out in 2022.

>> No.23437235

>>23437155
she just need to find the free slot and keep doing minecraft.
Also she is the only one with the balls to talk to JP outside mori and kaira.

>> No.23437331

>>23437155
it's a bizarre experience watching someone with energy and drive that lacks charisma. She kind of reminds me of Alban from NijiEN

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23437386

>>23436062
>9) Selen had her record high month in April with a 3642 but that was **still** not enough to beat Sana, which tauntingly secured a 3842 median with her very last Kirby stream

>> No.23437668

>>23437155
She's also getting significantly less supas lately unless it's a korean pandering stream which is actually kind of sad. Even Fauna gets more than she does nowadays. I hope she finds her groove again and finds something she enjoys doing that doesn't just gut her numbers because her zatsu game just isn't good enough

>> No.23437672

>>23437155
She is having a bad time irl and that's why she has been taking it easy on the stream contents/not busting out her crazy ideas
Give her time to get back into groove after her depression arc is over, girl has plenty of charisma in my opinion and it showed in febaery

>> No.23437683
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>>23437386

>> No.23437715

>>23437386
That's like half of Niji EN. In fact Bae's exactly the type of streamer they would have normally snatched up. Moderately talented, not terribly charismatic, prolific streamer, not that successful in her past incarnations. She's incredibly lucky Cover took a long shot on her.

>> No.23437756

>>23437672
>girl has plenty of charisma in my opinion and it showed in febaery
Eh, I don't agree. Febaerary was just lucky for her. In the fact that literally no one was fucking streaming for one reason or another

>> No.23437836

>>23437756
Going by your logic, Fauna is also getting extremely lucky getting consecutive no overlaps but no, She just has established a good timestlot
Bae is a great zatsu streamer, just not on the level of Fauna and Mumei
The thing she struggles with is with gaming and talking at talking at the same time, something that comes naturally to the other two

I watch the rat so I know

>> No.23437859

>>23437836
>Going by your logic, Fauna is also getting extremely lucky getting consecutive no overlaps
Yes? Where did I say otherwise?

>> No.23437910

>>23437859
I guess I misinterpreted your statement, sorry 'bout that
Let's move on

>> No.23437950
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>>23436351
TWITCH GOLD SO FAR FOR APRIL

As is tradition, here it is, in the usual format
I also cringed incredibly hard at those titles but, stream titles aren't the same as video titles i guess.

1. Jururu (KR Isegye Idol) - 16,235 ( [아이네] 오늘은 삶은 숙주 )
2. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 16,347 ( 없는계절 들어줘서 고맙따네~ )
3. Ironmouse (EN (VShojo) - 25,975 ( I AM NOT LATE... COME WATCH THIS WASHED UP VTUBER )
4. Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol) - 14,405 ( 버거버거얌 )
5. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 17,075 ( 홍삼 먹었음 )
6. Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol) - 16,518 ( 예열 이세돌 팬게임해보기 )
7. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 18,344 ( 9시) VR챗 상황극 예정 )
8. VIichan (KR Isegye Idol) - 12,912 ( 불금이당~!!!! )
9. Ironmouse (EN VShojo) - 14,266 ( NIJISHOJO & FRIENDS WE CRABBING )
10. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 14,772 ( 예열하고 풀트뱅 )
11. Veibae (EN VShojo) - 37,876 ( NEW MODEL REVEAL )
12. Veibae (EN VShojo) - 15,328 ( weebs welcome | !socials !prime )
13. Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol) - 13,707 ( 릴뱅온!!!!!!!! )
14. Ironmouse (EN VShojo) - 14,523 ( THE POWER POINT PRESENTATION & GAMES WITH MONKE TONIGHT )
15. Veibae (EN VShojo) - 16,313 ( weebs welcome | !socials !prime )
16. Veibae (EN VShojo) - 15,599 ( FRIDAY FUNDAY GONNA REACT FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN SOME ELDEN RING GET IN HERE | weebs welcome | !tts !socials !prime )
17. Ironmouse (EN VShojo) - 19,846 ( MY INTERNET KEEPS DYING BUT I AM STILL HERE )
18. CodeMiko (EN Indy) - 21,711 ( ANDREA BOTEZ VTUBER DEBUT, MIKOVERSE DEMO, TECH DEMO! LETS GOO MIKO 3.0 TECH DEMO )
19. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 29,435 ( 8시) 신호등 커버 공개 )
20. Nyanners (EN VShojo) - 11,566 ( i cut my hair what do you think haha be honest do you think it looks cool haha )
21. Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol) - 13,167 ( 아 맞다 유튜브 올려야하는데!!!! )
22. Shoto (EN Indy) - 12,146 ( WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE?! | Overcooked 2 ft. Vox )
23. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 14,993 ( 낮뱅할수있었는데 까비 )
24. VIichan (KR Isegye Idol) - 11,687 ( VRC 패션쇼 공지쓰는 날 )
25. Veibae (EN VShojo) - 16,294 ( guyth don't laugh at my lithp pleathe weebth welcome | !lisp !tts !socials !prime )
26. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 17,698 ( 9시) VR챗 상황극 )
27. Miabyte (EN Indy) - 17,400 ( twitch ambassador ama )
28. Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - 17,797 ( 전메릴을 위하여 )
29. Ironmouse (EN VShojo) - 10,009 ( ADVENTURES IN ELDEN RING w/ NYANNERS | !EldenRing | #AD )
30. Miabyte (EN Indy) - 17,438 ( looking at your wishlist suggestions !throne !opixbox )

Gold by group:
Isegye Idol - 14
VShojo - 10
Indy - 4

>> No.23437993

>>23437683
There's always May. One of these months the biggest NijiEN female will beat the smallest HoloEN female.

>> No.23438026

>>23437950
Twitch stream titles are so obnoxious

>> No.23438027
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>>23437950
>Isegye Idol - 14
HoloKR academy, I kneel!

>> No.23438194

>>23437668
Anon Fauna streams like 2-5 hours every stream and has been on a massive incline of late. That speaks less of Bae and more of Fauna. Don’t confuse the two. To compare, Bae’s last SC reading was 1 hour long; Fauna’s was 5 hours.

>>23437756
I mean lets be fair, that goes for a lot of talents. Like we can argue that Pekora has been “lucky” since a large portion of her streams have started in JP primetime where, for whatever reason it may be, JPs have stopped streaming in until later in the night. Or that Mumei has been lucky that people have gotten sick/MIA so she has a slot to herself. The reality is, stuff happens and you just roll with it. Bae’s just had the issue of not finding an appropriate scheduling pattern. Laplus is having the same issue and her numbers have tanked also (her 10k’s almost always come in an open slot, she gets murdered by overlap as of late) You just have to deal with the growing pains sometimes and find something that works for you. Kind of like Koyori

>> No.23438273

>>23436564
representation is something they force frontpage yeah, not always but frequent enough that i can tell.

>> No.23438309

>>23436062
Is the number of 1k+ channels growing, and the fact that the thresholds for top 50 and top 100 are also increasing, an indication that this industry continues to incline as a whole?

>> No.23438447

>>23437756
Bae isn’t gonna magically get better. She said herself she has to go to college or parents basically disown her. She will have to focus on college no matter what.

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>> No.23438483

>>23438194
Fauna is inclining because she's the best holoEN.

>> No.23438501

>>23438462
>34 minutes
Eh

>> No.23438524

>>23438462
34 minutes, seems normal.

>> No.23438561

>>23433161

APRIL 2022 SILVER
>1) 28,711: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>2) 40,046: Flare (Hololive) Bday Totsumachi
>3) 41,660: Marine (Hololive) Chat
>4) 30,517: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) FIFA 22
>5) 40,720: Gura (Hololive) Unarchived Karaoke
>6) 47,573: Subaru (Hololive) Minecraft
>7) 31,050: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>8) 31,199: Suzuya Aki (Nijisanji) 3D reveal
>9) 28,980: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) New outfit reveal
>10) 32,757: Subaru (Hololive) FF7 Remake
>11) 40,178: Pekora (Hololive) Cooking stream
>12) 36,464: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX scrims
>13) 38,117: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>14) 59,160: Vox (Nijisanji) Unarchived Karaoke
>15) 32,049: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>16) 52,114: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX scrims
>17) 119,105: Aqua (Hololive) APEX VSaikyou S4 Tournament
>18) 32,776: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Bday
>19) 19,075: Uki (Nijisanji) Unarchived Karaoke
>20) 37,789: Lauren (Nijisanji) Nipple Apology
>21) 40,135: Watame (Hololive) 3D Janken Totsu
>22) 18,979: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>23) 29,010: Pekora (Hololive) Nyanko Daisensou
>24) 45,935: Marine (Hololive) Important Announcement
>25) 29,996: Pekora (Hololive) Nyanko Daisensou
>26) 35,266: Hal (Neo Porte) Recruited by TSM
>27) 49,601: Pekora (Hololive) Grandblue Fantasy
>28) 30,537: ChroNoiR (Nijisanji) New outfit reveal + announcement
>29) 48,834: Hololive (Hololive) Golden Game Week announcement
>30) 44,012: Warabeda (Nijisanji) Graduation Stream

THE NIPPLE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN

> PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
3x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
6x: Kuzuha
5x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Subaru, Marine
1x: Flare, Gura, Aqua, Watame, Suzuya Aki, Vox, Fuwa, Uki, Lauren, ChroNoiR, Warabeda, Hololive

I never watched but please observe a moment of silence for the great loss to our uohbros or don't idc

>> No.23438730

>>23438483
THIS IS TRUE
Except Goomba is the best. But she loves Fauna so everything works out

>> No.23438760

Marine Set Sail MV 2 million views get

>> No.23438764
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>>23433161

APRIL 2022 BRONZE
>1) 25,993: Lamy (Hololive) The closing shift
>2) 39,276: Gura (Hololive) Myth 3D Twister
>3) 38,197: Towa (Hololive) Karaoke
>4) 27,719: Pekora (Hololive) There is no game
>5) 30,288: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX collab
>6) 42,536: Pekora (Hololive) Minecraft
>7) 24,885: Kanae (Nijisanji) Mario Party Collab
>8) 28,742: Pekora (Hololive) Vampire Survivors
>9) 25,670: Subaru (Hololive) FFVII Crisis Core FINALE
>10) 31,501: Shion (Hololive) Singing til 1 million
>11) 37,222: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>12) 25,370: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>13) 37,464: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX VSaikyou S4
>14) 39,712: AZKi (Hololive) Gyaku-totsu
>15) 28,351: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>16) 37,926: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>17) 86,616: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX VSaikyou S4 Tournament
>18) 32,623: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX VS4 Lookback
>19) 18,427: Noel (Hololive) Elden Ring
>20) 28,401: Subaru (Hololive) Marshmallow Q&A
>21) 37,528: Pekora (Hololive) Granblue Fantasy
>22) 18,878: Gura (Hololive) Food Review
>23) 25,249: Subaru (Hololive) FREE TALK
>24) 41,426: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Valorant
>25) 26,894: Suisei (Hololive) miComet Raft
>26) 26,752: Toya (Nijisanji) Ao Oni
>27) 31,857: Iroha (Hololive) IroShuba Collab Marshmallow
>28) 20,888: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) PowerPro
>29) 38,637: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX
>30) 33,940: Pekora (Hololive) Dragon Quest II

THE UNCONTESTED BRONZE

> PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
3x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
8x: Pekora
5x: Kuzuha
3x: Subaru, Hal
2x: Gura
1x: Lamy, Towa, Shion, AZKi, Noel, Kanae, Suisei, Touya, Iroha

Silver & Bronze tally will continue next month as well.

>> No.23438808

>>23432786
who this on OP pic?

>> No.23439015

>>23434675
For indie that number is good enough, but for corpo streamer you have to split revenue with your agency. Also Niji only give a damm about top tier talents so if you are a low tier it's better having a second job. Hell many Holos doing the same thing.
I think the corpo base salary depending a lot on the number you can get each month. Given the fluctuation of CCV, there actually not many people can entirely focus on one job unless you are in 10% highest ones in the company.

>> No.23439143

>>23439015
I don't think there are many holos who still have a "job" job. Except Ina and Sana for reasons of "this is where the bread comes from".

>> No.23439152
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>>23438808

>> No.23439151

>>23438808
Goldship from Uma Musume

>> No.23439201

>>23438561
The silver medal is so even but the gold is so lopsided.

>> No.23439535
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>>23436062
And here is the whole list, with ten more comments

1) Riksa Dhirendra, from NIjiID, is the bottom ranked of the major companies, with a 36 median
2) Gaon, from NijiKR, is the only remaining 2 views from Nijisanji
3) No NijiEN is below 1k, with Reimu soldiering to a 1050 median
4) Astel finished the month with a 1.7k+ median, ahead of Oliver, Ollie, Millie and Debiru. Roberu was the only other Holostar above 1k
5) No HoloID was below 1k, with Iofi being at 1.1k+
6) Met is be the highest non major non Neo Porte non VSPO non Noripro non Indie (all discussed in previous posts), with a 3442 median, followed by HACHI, with 3071 and Weathernews Airi, with a 2758 median
7) Hananoki Maru, that vsen chuuba that was blessed with a Suisei visit, still sports a 445 median a full month after the event
8) Despite being a 10k+ ASMR powerhouse, Patra median is only 2499
9) The highest ranked MAHA5, Nia Redalion, is outranked by Mika, Bonnivier and Hana Macchia from NijiID

and the punchline
10) Usami Yuno is STILL the lowest ranked chuuba of all of the ones tracked and, so far, NOT A SINGLE NUMBERFAG put any theory forward that would explain that fact.

Why is it anons, try to understand this one channel and it could enlighten the whole field

>> No.23439591

>>23438309
Maybe it's just more people making 5 streams this month and qualifying when they would otherwise be cut off

>> No.23439595

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7eDHROoBr4
>81k
Someone save my precious smelly wife. The song isn't even bad, just short.

>> No.23439643

>>23439595
that makes it bad

>> No.23439743

>>23439595
Of course it’s short, it’s a preview. All of her releases will be previews until the album drops in November.

>> No.23439781
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>>23439743
And she thinks this is a good idea why?

>> No.23439796

>>23439201
It is but it’s also not. If you look closely, there’s:
>7 Kuzuha silvers (6 solo, 1 duo
>1 graduation stream
>1 apology stream
That’s 9 of the 13 medals that were just Kuzuha carrying Niji or very rare occurrances. From there it’s basically just 3d streams and a botted karaoke.

Some anon did a shitpost comparing Hololive EN to all of Niji, and when you exclude Kuzuha out of the equation they’re close to being even. And this is HoloEN, not even HoloJP. Kuzuha deserves a lot of praise though for keeping Niji alive and afloat

>> No.23439866

>>23439743
Big Brain. I and the other Chloe enjoyers will be buying her album as soon as it drops

>> No.23439867

>>23439781
Good for TikToks.

>> No.23440003

>>23439796
Truly the silver king.

>> No.23440030

>>23439535
>No HoloID was below 1k, with Iofi being at 1.1k+
ID INCLINE CONFIRMED REAL

>> No.23440061

>>23433519
>gura topping shion
uoh

>> No.23440254
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>>23437950
Full list of medalists - Twitch April

Name Group : Gold - Silver - Bronze - Other top 10
Ine (KR Isegye Idol) : 8 - 3 - 2 - 0
Ironmouse (EN VShojo) : 5 - 5 - 3 - 14
Veibae (EN VShojo) : 5 - 2 - 1 - 1
Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol) : 3 - 5 - 1 - 8
VIichan (KR Isegye Idol) : 2 - 4 - 7 - 5
Miabyte (EN Indy) : 2 - 0 - 0 - 0
Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol) : 1 - 4 - 0 - 8
Jururu (KR Isegye Idol) : 1 - 2 - 5 - 5
Nyanners (EN VShojo) : 1 - 1 - 2 - 2
Shoto (EN Indy) : 1 - 0 - 0 - 19
CodeMiko (EN Indy) : 1 - 0 - 0 - 9
Gosegu (KR Isegye Idol) : 0 - 1 - 2 - 9
ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA) : 0 - 1 - 1 - 17
kson (JP Indy) : 0 - 1 - 0 - 2
SelenTatsuki (EN Nijisanji) : 0 - 1 - 0 - 0
maoruya (KR Indy) : 0 - 0 - 2 - 5
Snuffy (EN Indy) : 0 - 0 - 1 - 8
Kanae (JP Nijisanji) : 0 - 0 - 1 - 5
Silvervale (EN VShojo) : 0 - 0 - 1 - 4
Astraea_ (KR Indy) : 0 - 0 - 1 - 0

1. Ine wins handily.
2. Also being the only one who finished in the top 3 with every stream she had this month. Veibae was close though.
3. Ironmouse - most silver / VIichan - most Bronze / Shoto - most top 10 appearances outside of medals
4. Miabyte has the most gold for any indy - 2, by being featured on the main Twitch page.
5. Ine, Ironmouse and VIichan tied for most medals - 13
Ironmouse had the most top 10 appearances - 27
6. ZilverK is the only SP streamer to medal
7. Maoruya is the top KR Indy
8. Nijisanji got 2 medals with Selen and Kanae, Hololive 0, but was close with Ame and Roboco.

3 out of the 8 VShojo have won gold, though Hime hasn't streamed
5 out of 6 Isegye Idol members instead

By group:
Group : Gold - Silver - Bronze
Isegye Idol : 14 - 17 - 15
VShojo : 10 - 8 - 7
Indy : 4 - 1 - 4
Nijisanji : 0 - 1 - 1
LA RATIZA : 0 - 1 - 1

>> No.23440453

>>23434953
Late response but whatever.
>The top male performers are all being shoved into idolshit and music and albums and have less time to fill their playlists with 12 hour streams.
That's straight up bullshit. Which male members or even female are doing their idol/music reps?

ChroNoir and ROF-MAO members for instance, that include a lot of top/high tier Nijis, during April, streamed:
>Kuzuha: 28 streams
>Kanae: 30 streams
>Toya: 5 streams
>Fuwa: 22 streams
>Hayato: 19 streams
>Kaida: 24 streams
Only Toya doesn't stream often.

From the other side you have:
>Mito: 14 streams
>Ange: 7(!) streams
>Lize: 9(!) streams
>Toko: 10 streams
What the fuck are the top/high tier girls doing? Even if you can convince me about Toko that is a music-oriented Niji, are you trying to tell me that Mito, Ange and Lize are doing their music/idol reps?

Girs in Nijisanji JP need to pick up the pace, stop being lazy fucks, start contributing and stop leeching from the guys. The most popular guys: Kuzuha, Kanae, Ibrahim, Fuwa, Hayato, Yashiro, Mayuzumi, Lauren are streaming a lot. The same can't be said for the girls.

>> No.23440480
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>>23440061
Gura wants that mesugaki

Hopefully EN3 doesn't have someone like Laplus or Kobo.

>> No.23440572

>>23439535
> Despite being a 10k+ ASMR powerhouse, Patra median is only 2499
hey, that's just because she loves streaming a lot

>> No.23440617

>>23439796
>botted
holocope

>> No.23440699

>>23440572
Patra reminds me of Choco in this sense, and both are VERY different from their fellow ASMR powerhouse (Noel).
The later knows how to adequately mix and match her content without leaning too hard in either side of her magnificent attributes

>> No.23440981
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>>23439535
>Usami Yuno
I had never heard of her, so I looked her up. What a fascinating case. Her channel is desolate, 90% of her recent VODS are ASMR and she gets like 2-3 comments and 200-300 VOD views, always at least one from the same guy.
This girl is an obsessive ASMR spammer, she streams ASMR almost every day. I clicked randomly in a few spots in some of her streams and uh, it's always just some sort of rubbing sound. Like "girl rubs dry dishcloth on your ear" ASMR. Really not that appealing in my opinion.
I'd never even try to guess how someone like this could fix their channel. I wonder if she's spamming this ASMR stuff because she has a few oil barons who like it and can pay her bills all by themselves? If all I had to do to fund my lifestyle was rub a dishcloth on a microphone for an hour a day for 3 sheikhs, I'd definitely do it.

>> No.23441085

finana 2k with minecraft without any vc. Is minecraft that strong of a buff?

>> No.23441123

>>23435062
Ame Elden Ring.

>> No.23441128

>>23440254
Looks like KR vtuber scene is growing

>> No.23441151
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>>23440981
>I wonder if she's spamming this ASMR stuff because she has a few oil barons
I was asking myself just that too, after checking her channel.

She wasn't like that before tho. something happened that sucked the life out of her channel.
Maybe she got sponsored a good mic by one of her gachis and is pivoting to full time ASMR?
It's not helping her channel tho

>> No.23441274

>>23440453
Is this just my imagination or Nijisanji doesn't have good regeneration especially for their female vtubers one?

>> No.23441531

>>23441085
only overlap is reimu and pomu.
pomu has mgs tourist so she has the server for her own.
reimu is reimu karaoke or not.

>> No.23441596

>>23440453
>are you trying to tell me that Mito, Ange and Lize are doing their music/idol reps?
They were, and the top boys too, right before the cancelled festival they were planning.
Both Kuzuha and Mito had atrocious December and January (IIRC) and it was not just because of CCVID.

Idol reps isn't permanent tho, you can see that on Holo side too with most of the girls ramping up streaming activities after HoloFes

>> No.23441602

>>23434941
>hololive production
great, homoshits tanking the numbers. does Mumei not understand that a nice chunk of her big holo drawing streams were from JOPs tuning into the novelty?

>> No.23441670

>>23441123
ah for god sake
why cant this bitch just stream at midnight

>> No.23441748

>>23441602
Mumei is literally asking people their permission to draw them. She's not going to go out of their way to draw a holostar

>> No.23441802

>>23441670
>hmm what's this free Gura slot for an entire week
>fuck that I'm going to jump between two timeslots specifically to overlap others
at least Bae is using it...to the tune of some very bad numbers

>> No.23441864

>>23441748
Anon? It says right there holopro. You never, ever, use this term unless you want to discuss Holostars. What exactly makes you think she didn't just ask holostars for permission to draw them?

>> No.23441879

>>23441602
I seriously doubt she'll draw a holostar, has she had any involvement with or even mention of them at all after that one Bae collab? Plus I remember her being extremely awkward in that collab, it didn't exactly seem to me like she was eager to forge more friendships with the dudes.

>> No.23441935

>>23441596
>December/January
Sure, but we are not in January anymore.
Sanbaka and JK-gumi in general are a disgrace when it comes to how much they contribute these days with the exception of maaaaybe Mito that I guess got COVID this month.

>> No.23441941

>>23441864
Nigger the title says Hololive

>> No.23441982

Reason why Bae's been inconsistent is cause she hurt her back and had to give up her cats.
Also she just said her parents are allergic to cats.

>> No.23442041

>>23441802
she is doing a zatsu and needs to get back to regular streaming. same for all the others.

>> No.23442056
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>>23441941
Prepare to be surprised, anon.

>> No.23442129

>>23442056
Google hololive logo you dumbfuck

>> No.23442135

>>23441982
>back hort x2
>coof hort
Mumei...Fauna..you're gonna carry this weight

>> No.23442161

>>23441982
I still remember the cat thing, that's when her Cantonese slipped in her early MC collab. I think it was her mom saying "your sister is bringing a cat" something like that.

>> No.23442176

>>23441864
i bet she just googled hololive logo and grabbed the first thing that came up

>> No.23442208
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>>23437950
Last 2, i promise

Top Vtuber streams on Twitch for April by Peak (15k+):

1. 37,876 Veibae (EN VShojo) - Re-debut - costume reveal
2. 29,435 Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - Return
3. 25,975 Ironmouse (EN (VShojo) - Defending Vtubers & Osu on r/place
4. 22,852 Ine (KR Isegye Idol) - New Cover release
5. 21,711 CodeMiko (EN Indy) - Andreea Botez vtuber debut
6. 19,846 Ironmouse (EN (VShojo)
7. 18,344 Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
8. 17,797 Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
9. 17,698 Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
10. 17,438 Miabyte (EN Indy)
11. 17,400 Miabyte (EN Indy)
12. 17,075 Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
13. 16,518 Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
14. 16,347 Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
15. 16,313 Veibae (EN VShojo)
16. 16,294 Veibae (EN VShojo)
17. 16,235 Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
18. 15,698 Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
19. 15,599 Veibae (EN VShojo)
20. 15,541 Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
21. 15,328 Veibae (EN VShojo)
22. 15,233 Veibae (EN VShojo)

Even ignoring conversion, none of the streams would have been the top of the day for Vtubers, but the peaks are getting higher on average for Twitch.
Just a bit below last months peak - Bubi's debut at 38,730 peak

>> No.23442210
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>>23441935
>Sanbaka
>a disgrace
Anon? Sanbaka as 3 out of Nijisanji top 10, with ALL OF THEM being over 10k median this month, and all of them outranking all of Luxiem.

For this month at least you can call them the most successful Nijisanji wave bar none

>> No.23442285
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23442285

>>23441982
>hurt her back
>troubles with pets
Sorry Bae, Sana already used both these excuses

>> No.23442373

Asuka actually interact with miko on twitter lol.

>> No.23442397

>>23439535
Vsen's oMaru's still really highly ranked at 293.

Looks like many of the others have inclined too.

>> No.23442398

Man what the fuck is going on with Council

>> No.23442457

>>23442398
literally cursed.

>> No.23442492
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23442492

And with Reimu reaching 5K viewers I want to grab this opportunity to inform you that this is her biggest stream since her debut. Well that was the case for a while now since her biggest stream other than her debut was previously around 3.2K for her birthday I think.

I know that those are not big numbers but I am happy for her.

>> No.23442519

>>23442398
april look like such a good month after the april fools streams.

>> No.23442554

>>23442492
She has a gorgeous voice. The best NijiEN singer I've heard.

>> No.23442565

>>23442519
Well it was for Fauna and Mumei! Everyone else though...

>> No.23442593

>>23442210
I am not criticizing how popular they are. I am criticizing the ammount of work they put and how often they stream. They stream very sparsely.

>> No.23442601

>>23442398
Fauna and Mumei will carry this weight.

>> No.23442602

>>23442492
It also has more CCV than finana's unarchived karaoke. It's almost a curse at this point, fuck you finana you got it coming

>> No.23442692

>>23442602
At least Finana will be remembered as someone from the first wave once they debut 40 more members by the end of next year.

>> No.23442704

Here is the complete EN Gold medal list for April. I will follow this up with the overall medal list to date (since EN Gold started)

*APRIL TOTAL MEDAL COUNT*

>Gold
8 Golds: Gura
4 Golds: Mori, Mumei
3 Golds: Vox
2 Golds: Mysta, Uki, Shu
1 Gold: Kronii, Amelia, Elira, Luca, Fauna

HoloEN: 19 Golds
NijiEN: 11 Golds

>Silver
5 Silvers: Ina
4 Silvers: Mysta, Luca
3 Silvers: Mumei, IRyS
2 Silvers: Amelia, Kronii, Gura
1 Silver: Selen, Fauna, Sonny, Vox

HoloEN: 18 Silvers
NijiEN: 11 Silvers

>Bronze
7 Bronze: Vox, Mysta
2 Bronze: Baelz, Fauna, Mori, Mumei, IRyS
1 Bronze: Gura, Amelia, Ike, Ina, Kiara

HoloEN: 13 Bronze
NijiEN: 15 Bronze

>> No.23442736

Marine's Set Sail Original hit 2 mil about an hour ago

2,007,408 views Premiered Apr 27, 2022

(3 Days 10 Hours 12 Minutes)

>> No.23442770
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23442770

I'm out of the loop, what the fuck happened to Suisei ?

>> No.23442787

>>23433715
>57

what the fuck

>> No.23442810

>>23442692
Recently Finana took credit for inspiring Luca to join Luxiem so she is also more daisenpai thaan Reimu will ever be

>> No.23442814
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23442814

>>23442593
>I am criticizing the ammount of work they put and how often they stream
Work smart not hard, anon. All of Sanbaka are as well in the Top 10 of the streamers that streamed 10 or fewer times this month, and they're in VERY good company
>Aqua
>Marine
>Toya
>Kanata
>Shion
>Nijisanji main channel
>Maimoto
and the three of them, all over 10k median.

>> No.23442820

>>23442770
I have consulted the stars.
They're calling her back and causing a natural recline

>> No.23442848

anyone has the EN gold medal tally for the whole April? is holoen still winning the special olympics?

>> No.23442847

>>23442770
she had her views doubled because of a glitch

>> No.23442876

>>23442770
Maybe they're merging her channel making it an official music channel

>> No.23442895

>>23442770
I think it's just holostats bug for tracking views because Suisei's channel just turned into an artist channel.

>> No.23442909

>>23442820
i knew it. comet was a fucking male

>> No.23442935

Wow, Gura actually got her 300k on splatoon. And another 400k on VS and Wingman. Wonder if the last Kirby can make it there too.

>> No.23442950

>>23442848
Yeah

>> No.23442982

>>23442810
Finana also took credit for Luxiem's success in the leaks.

>> No.23443002

>>23440030
The whole ID scene is inclining.
That anon talking about Nia Redalion outranked by Niji ID make it seems like Maha5 is reclining, but that's not true, back in 2021 Nia only averaging at 100-150 ccv.
Only Niji ID is reclining, the ones who incline are the ones who panders to EN (Mika, Bonni, Hana).

>> No.23443019

>>23436191
>5K without the Pekora buff
You like to see it
>>23442736
Is it doing better than Unison?

>> No.23443075

>>23443002
That sounds depressing.
First your branch gets dissolved and then the whole ID scene (excluding NijiID) inclines right afterwards.

>> No.23443082

>>23443002
>panders
more like leeching

>> No.23443127

>watchtime
NijiEN > HoloEN
>monthly vod views
NijiEN > HoloEN
>superchat
NijiEN > HoloEN
>peak median
HoloEN > NijiEN

its over holobros...

>> No.23443192

>>23442935
Withdrawal syndrome in full force.

>> No.23443217

>>23439535
there is one name not capitalized in that list, but im not gonna tell you who

>> No.23443221

>>23437715
A fitting description of Bae who's somehow managing to barely get 4k in the primest of times.

>> No.23443223

>>23442935
It’ll make it there in time. There are streams from weeks and months ago that still pick up views, even if slowly. But seeing her consistently pick up 300-400k is still a great sign given the game selection. I bet an MC or buff game will get her back to the 450-500k range for games. The short streams have just hurt a bit

>> No.23443227

>>23443002
>>23443075
But why didn’t they? Did rebranding really hurt them that much? It seemed like a harmless change.

>> No.23443256

>>23443019
Unison took a bit over 8 days to hit 2 million.

>> No.23443354

>>23443127
Oh no, the branch that streams 4 times as much and has double the members is leading in watch time. What ever shall Hololive do! I quiver at the thought of seeing 6 1.5k streams before me..

>> No.23443389

>>23443127
>le nijien streams more post
Kay.

>> No.23443404

>>23442770
I think they merged her channel with the theme channel and then unmerged it again like the next day. Think it happened when she released her new songs.

>> No.23443432

>>23443227
>harmless change
It's a big "fuck you" to the target audience.
They ended all merch, sponsorships and deals they had in Indonesia.

>> No.23443470

>>23443075
I know right. Such unfortunate luck.
But even if their branch have never been dissolved, I doubt that it would change much. Most of Niji ID are trying to attract ID fans but they're too isolated, they do not interact much with any other ID focused vtubers. It's different with Maha5 for example, recently they collabed a lot with indies and the other local agencies.

Maybe Niji ID livers are too content with the amount of livers that they have, so they do not see any incentive to make connections to the outside. I think it's one of the reasons of their incline.

>> No.23443493

>>23442704
*OVERALL MEDALS SINCE RANKING STARTED*

>Gold
22 Golds: Gura
11 Golds: Mumei
9 Golds: Vox
8 Golds: Mori
6 Golds: Mysta
5 Golds: Baelz
4 Golds: Kronii
3 Golds: Amelia, Kiara
2 Golds: Uki, Shu, Fauna, IRyS, Ike
1 Gold: Elira, Luca, Ina, Enna, Nina, Yugo, Alban

>Silver
10 Silvers: Ina
9 Silvers: Mysta, Mumei, IRyS, Vox
8 Silvers: Luca
6 Silvers: Amelia, Gura
4 Silvers: Fauna, Mori, Baelz
3 Silvers: Kronii
2 Silvers: Shu, Kiara
1 Silver: Selen, Sonny

>Bronze
20 Bronze: Mysta
13 Bronze : Vox
9 Bronze: Mori
8 Bronze: Ina
5 Bronze: Baelz
4 Bronze: Mumei, IRyS, Luca
3 Bronze: Fauna, Gura, Amelia, Kronii
2 Bronze: Ike, Kiara
1 Bronze: Petra, Shu, Selen, Uki, Yugo

>HOLOLIVE
61 Golds
65 Silvers
42 Bronze
168 TOTAL MEDALS

>NIJISANJI
27 Golds
30 Silvers
44 Bronze
101 TOTAL MEDALS

>> No.23443527

>>23434813
>prioritizes top talents over anyone else
>raindrops, trinity and petit fleur exists
>levi, ririmu on V-Carnival
Anon please. If you look just a bit you'll see that less popular members have and had a lot of things for them. Why is this narrative even still said.
Not that it makes much sense in here because the girls and boys in the argument are high tier in nijisanji anyway.

>> No.23443586

>>23443470
Most of them seemed to be just content with the amount of viewers they had (except Zea and Mika)

>> No.23443593

>>23443493
go mumei

>> No.23443604
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>>23439535
Here are some snippets, first, EN field only

Ten comments
1) Gura still reigns supreme
2) Mumei, Ina and Calli are still over 10k
3) Vox and Mysta slipped below 10k
4) Fauna, Kronii, Ame and IRyS make for the rest of the top 10
5) Alban is the highest ranked Noctyx, outranking Ike
6) Selen is the highest ranked NijiEN girl, but still gets outranked by Sana
7) Kiara outranks Bae
8) Nobody is three digits
9) Enna, Elira, Nina, Pomu and Selen are above 2k

and the punchline
10) Yugo is the lowest ranked NijiEN boy (girl)

>> No.23443617

>>23443493
What a fucking joke. If Gura ever pulls out another December with multiple Karaokes/buff streams she can take this entire ranking. But who am I kidding, she loves her kusoge variety streams.

>> No.23443663

>>23443493
Ina's high floor low ceiling is amazing when looking at this medal count.

>> No.23443743

>>23443493
Is there a single EN that hasn't been on any of these 3?

>> No.23443811

So... numbers for Mumei?
The last time she had the JOP novelty buff and iirc there wasn't anybody else live, neither from HoloJP nor EN or one member at most but there are some expectations thanks to other people bringing up the drawings in the streams

>> No.23443831

>>23443811
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1520567481231761409?s=21&t=fcwx93gZEYPl_nLLfkZKTg
Numbers delayed for now. Animal did a bad bad

>> No.23443834

>>23443743
Finana

>> No.23443838

>>23443493
>>23443604
Matching these two is pretty fun to watch.

>> No.23443880
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>> No.23443886

>>23439796
>Some anon did a shitpost comparing Hololive EN to all of Niji, and when you exclude Kuzuha out of the equation they’re close to being even. And this is HoloEN, not even HoloJP. Kuzuha deserves a lot of praise though for keeping Niji alive and afloat
you can't be serious. Kuzuha is only that important for golds. In terms of merchandise, sponsorship and other revenues he's ofc very important but many other members also contribute to it

>> No.23443942

>>23443880
Wonder if she'll pass Fauna's peak

>> No.23444011

>>23443470 (me)
Oh yeah speaking of reclining and connections, I think reclining numbers is caused by the lack of collabs and connections.

For anyone who feels that their oshi, gen, or branch is reclining or stagnating in numbers, try to analyze, did they do many collabs or making connections with outside parties recently? I bet most didn't.

After watching the ID scene inclining and some vtubers gets a share of it and some doesn't, I can make a conclusion that connections is a big deal for a vtuber's career.

>> No.23444067

>>23443617
she plays kusoge becasue there is nothing else
MC is abandoned by anyone but mumei
all of myth are in different timezones for casual collabs or have fucked up shcedules like ame.
She could easily get some zatsu collabs like the room review and incline the fuck out.

>> No.23444119
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23444119

>>23443886
> Kuzuha is only that important for golds. (...) merchandise, sponsorship and other revenues
kek, if you take away Kuzuha high CCV, record high music VOD views, regular VOD views, company high SC numbers, merchandise, sponsorship, record selling solo album *and* Chronoir album, high attended lives, replace his mouse with one of those with a roller ball that picks up lint, break four of his fingers, force him into a box and ship him to Azovstal steel plant WHAT IS EVEN HIS IMPORTANCE FOR THE COMPANY!?

>> No.23444127

>>23443527
You saying Trinity isn't some of their top talents? You could argue Hakase but not Rion or Furen. Meanwhile Petit Fleur disbanded obviously since Gibara left. Also raindrops has some top talent in it as well. So your argument for top talent not getting prioritization is an event that a couple minnows attended a single concert event that also had a lot of their top talents too?

>> No.23444134

>>23444067
Ina's doing open VC Minecraft next week so there's hope. Also still waiting for that Fashion Talk collab with Gura and probably Fauna.

>> No.23444192

>>23442704
>>23443493
Don't kys

Thank you for these!

>> No.23444194

>>23443432
>>23443227
>>23443002
They are inclining though? Have you compared their numbers before?
Bobon and Hana also arent inclining, they have about the same numbers as before and they aren't the only ones who pander to EN when Layla, Zea, Cia and others also speak mostly in english, so your reasoning is lacking in that regard.

>> No.23444237

Mooms delay because animal needs to go to the vet for induced vomiting.

>> No.23444339

>>23443743
Sana for HoloEN and a bunch of them for Niji (Fungus, Finana, Reimu, Millie, Pomu)

>> No.23444380

>>23443886
Anon, fucking Mumei has a higher median peak than every single person in Niji besides Kuzuha and He-Ayame and the ones that are even above 10k have streamed less this month than Gawr fucking Gura, the girl who’s known to be an absurdly infrequent streamer who takes long breaks for personal time and holo work.

I would wager that if Kuzuha took a silent break, Niji would look like a bunch of fucking midgets.

>> No.23444386

>>23444237
These girls, I tell you, they're the fucking least professional streamers in the whole field.
Putting pets ahead of their careers will be their professional undoing, they are BLESSED for having a low hours work from home high paid profession and they're squandering it because they're functionally retarded

>> No.23444392

>>23444127
Furen isn't top, she's middle tier and Rion and Hakase are even lower. Rain Drops has only Akina as a top tier, the others are either 1k or below shitters.
>So your argument for top talent not getting prioritization is an event that a couple minnows attended a single concert event that also had a lot of their top talents too?
Considering Levi and Ririmu are having an opportunity to be in there after both were part of Nijirock? Yes.
I also forgot but Natsume got her own LN released by Kadokawa, where she was the author. She's also in the bottom of JP, although she inclined last year from below 1k to a regular 1k streamer.

>> No.23444427

>>23442704
>>23443493
>>23443604
Look at moomers go. I guess MC, collabs with Gura (and SNOT in general), and unarchived karaoke would be the main explanation for this?

>> No.23444428

>>23443831
>>23444237
I hate pets

>> No.23444456

so luca gold today huh

>> No.23444469

>>23444119
I'm not saying he's not important. I'm saying that to think the other Nijisanji members dont contribute to the revenue of the company is ridiculous.
>>23444380
I made sure to say that this isn't about this thread competition

>> No.23444488

>>23443493
Niji EN Males- 95 Medals
Niji EN Females- 6 Medals

Hmmmm....

>> No.23444561

>>23444386
are you psycho or something

>> No.23444562

>>23444456
CN gold?

>> No.23444609

>>23444488
EN FEMALES: 174 Medals
EN MALES: 95 Medals

MALES BTFO

>> No.23444613

>>23444386
Anon you actually need to get yourself checked into a looney bin if you think the health of her animals weigh less than her fucking streams when she still plans to stream anyway

>> No.23444640

>>23444386
OK c'mon now. It's not like she's taking him for a walk or to be groomed. He ate something and she's going to go get his stomach pumped

>> No.23444726

>>23444386
meds

>> No.23444781

>>23444609
>EN Males getting humiliated and pushed around by EN Females
I wish I was an EN Male....

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23444843

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk7mqhdNfZ8
Does anyone know how her numbers usually are? I've recently noticed they were getting about 2k, and now this one's at 2.5k, were they lower before that? She recently reached 100k subs recently too.

>> No.23444897
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23444897

Uh...holobros...?

>> No.23444937

>>23444897
Is reimu really doing her first EN karaoke now? Didn't she debut like 8 months ago

>> No.23444940

>>23439535
I always thought Leona was the biggest Re:AcT, her singing streams usually near 2k.

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>>23442208
Forgot to mention that there were 94 streams that passed 10k in total, 4 over 20k and 1 over 30k

>>23437950
The last one - monthly rankings
- 134 streamers tracked, cuttoff point is 3 streams / active days, because of a mistake

Starting with the Twitch favorite - Watch hours:
1. 1,460,601 - Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
2. 884,671 - Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
3. 819,012 - zrush (CN Indy)
4. 815,287 - Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
5. 784,758 - VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
6. 701,995 - Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
7. 687,412 - Veibae (EN VShojo)
8. 648,535 - Shoto (EN Indy)
9. 587,558 - Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
10. 567,999 - Shylily (EN Indy)

Average stream viewers - since this is what TT tracks and it's less deceptive than peaks:
1. 12,390 - Veibae (EN VShojo)
2. 12,336 - Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
3. 9,844 - Nyanners (EN VShojo)
4. 9,076 - Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
5. 8,957 - Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
6. 8,390 - VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
7. 7,030 - Shoto (EN Indy)
8. 6,811 - Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
9. 6,777 - Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
10. 6,108 - Gosegu (KR Isegye Idol)

And just for indies/ smaller groups - No VS, no II, no Nijisanji or Hololive either because they were 5/10:
1. 7,030 - Shoto (EN Indy)
2. 5,470 - Snuffy (EN Indy)
3. 5,237 - kson (JP Indy)
4. 5,088 - ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
5. 4,843 - Shylily (EN Indy)
6. 4,524 - CodeMiko (EN Indy)
7. 3,845 - zrush (CN Indy)
8. 3,738 - maoruya (KR Indy)
9. 3,490 - Nimu (SP Indy)
10. 3,393 - HarukaKaribu (EN Indy)

Hours streamed:
1. 226 - Rainhoe (EN Indy)
2. 213 - zrush (CN Indy)
3. 203 - KSPKSP (CN Indy)
4. 188 - stal (EN Indy)
5. 178 - MurderCrumpet (EN Indy)
6. 175 - Chunyang (KR Parable)
7. 163 - Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
8. 161 - OniGiri (EN Indy)
9. 159 - Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
10. 156 - OkCode (EN Indy)

1. Ironmouse takes hours watched by a lot, unsurprisingly. Streams a lot to high numbers all the time.
2. Veibae takes average viewers in front of Ine by a tiny bit. That re-debut stream giving the edge, otherwise Ine has the higher peaks average/median.
3. Shoto, Snuffy, kson, ZilverK and Shylily are the biggest indies right now.
CodeMiko had a couple of huge streams that pushed her up there, otherwise she'd be in the 3k region.
4. For hours streamed, Rainhoe had a sort of Subathon and the Taiwan streamers just stream a hell of a lot. 8-9 hours per day.

All of Isegye Idol - Ine especially, Ironmouse, Veibei, Nyanners and now Shoto are the top Vtubers on Twitch.
That's about it for closing thoughts.

>> No.23445036

>>23444897
>karaoke
>cant still match ubishit
manstill what is with this debuff galore from holoEN
ass4, ame making pretty much another guerrilla eldenring, fucking irys playing hades.
Even till today only one holoEN memeber has played RE2.

>> No.23445074

>>23444843
Yeah, she was even 4k for a bit.

Most popular ""ES"" chuuba.

>> No.23445118

>>23445036
Fauna had near 8k until she got overlapped by Bae, and then dipped below 7k when Ame started. It's really not bad all things considered, especially since this is her second installment of the game, and Fauna was never a heavy hitter to begin with.

>> No.23445149

>>23444561
>are you psycho or something
>>23444613
>Anon you actually need to get yourself checked into a looney bin if you think the health of her animals weigh less than her fucking streams
>>23444640
>He ate something and she's going to go get his stomach pumped
>>23444726
>meds

I am 100% serious and I am not talking about this this instance but the amount of time pet troubles is an impediment for HoloEN (and mostly HoloEN across the whole streaming field)

These girls are professional streamers, streaming is their profession and a highly paid low responsibility at it.
In most western civilized countries there is a provision in employment law for family emergencies, and I'll consider pets as "family" for the sake of this conversation. Here is an example:
https://www.workplacefairness.org/family-leave-state-laws

So in this case Mumei of course would be in the clear to communicate with her employer and take a leave for the day, the week or as much time she needs to take care of her family (pet).
Same thing for when Sana dog died, Rushia hamster died or Shion cat died.

But I've heard all sorts of excuses for the behaviour of the girls, like
>oh, she can't really stream consistently, she has to take her dog out three times a day
and the this type of "dog ate my homework" excuse.

If it is a legit medical emergency don't fucking "delay" the stream. Activate your allowed by law family emergency leave, take the day off and take care of your family.
If it is not, then plan your life (Including your family obligations) as if you had a profession and do your job like the rest of mankind does

Or not, treat your profession as a paid hobby and reap the exact results that attitude would bring

>> No.23445170

Hololive keeps winning

https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1520417238779822080

>> No.23445193

>>23445036
is asscreed really a debuff game? fauna sailing around singing sea shanties off-key and with the wrong lyrics is incredibly cute

>> No.23445208

>>23438483
she's in the upper tiers at this point, but Gura, Ina, and Mumei are better.

>> No.23445234

>>23445074
I guess you mean YT chuuba, Nimu is way higher

>> No.23445242
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>>23436351
>Lina Vermillion (SP Indy)
She's affiliated with Kudasai, read her Twitter and Twitch descriptions.
https://twitter.com/LinaVermillion
https://www.twitch.tv/linavermillion/about
Her debut announcement is on their YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsnANPrFSu0

>> No.23445244

>>23445016
I feel like Veibae and Nyanners are having shorter stream time this month.
Vshojo is now just Ironmouse.

>> No.23445292

>>23444897
AIEEE NO THIS IS HEADED TO THE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS NUMBER OF
>8k

>> No.23445308

so the reason tsm hired hal is for these watchalong?

>> No.23445321

>Niji does a karaoke - 7k
>Fauna plays some 10 year old Ass Creed - 6k
>Ame plays the hot game of the moment - 3k

Myth bros, how are you doing?

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>>23445149
Anon Cover doesn't give a single fuck. Their requirements for you to stream are so fucking flexible and that's been evident for damn near a year. I don't know why you're pretending this is a fucking office job or something.

>> No.23445343

>>23445234
Yes, for YT. At least for a while, the Wactor Redhead is catching up.

Nimu isn't top for ES though either btw.
>>23445016
ZilverK, that Ugandan Knuckles chuuba has way higher numbers.

>> No.23445392

>>23445118
Is more about the game selection of the whole branch.
Irys could easily play Re2 and get nice nummbers and clips.
Ame is alergic to anything mainstream and eldenring alwasy end up like a guerrilla where she plays pretty much after just waking up.
>>23445193
that is 90% of the game so it loses its charm eventually.

is a saturday night and rather than brining the big guns they are playing random garbage. i dont know what these girls are even working behind curtains but no way it is big enough to make up for this shit schedules.

>> No.23445419

>>23445323
The funny thing is HoloJP will do the same thing if their pets are sick

>> No.23445445

>>23437155
Honestly with her general temperament she seems more appropriate for nijisanji than Hololive. Mentioning Roberu as her oshi on debut? the whole shipping thing with Roberu? I mean come on she did it to herself.

Its a shame because she can sing well, but no one's going to spend the time looping.

>> No.23445449

>>23438483
the best on what? why saplings are so delusional.

>> No.23445469

>>23445323
>Anon Cover doesn't give a single fuck.
Yeah, interestingly enough that's the exact complaint about their management and, specifically about EN management
> WHY ISN'T EN MANAGEMENT DOING MORE TO HELP THE GIRLS!

Again, if the girls want to treat what is their actual profession as a paid hobby
> and there is nothing wrong with that, that's pretty much how Sana deals with it, for instance
there is no problem with that. They will get the exact reward for the effort they're putting in.

>> No.23445470

>>23445321
So you failed to get (you)s with >>23444897 so now you're narrowing the bait down? Pathetic.

>> No.23445472

>>23445244
Yes, Vei had 12 days and Nyanners only had 8 days when they were active.

The beginning of the month was almost a wasteland. Some days it was just Mousey streaming

>> No.23445489

>>23444119
This but with HoloMyth instead.

>> No.23445498

>>23445419
Shion's cat incident.

>> No.23445524

>>23445392
>is a saturday night and rather than brining the big guns they are playing random garbage.
They want to have fun, so they're having fun. This gets stated like every other fucking thread; HoloEN does not give a shit about numbers. They do not give a shit about Superchats. They DO care about their audience and would rather show up happy and wanting to play what they want to play. Not sift around and look to see if they can get numbers on something or not.

>> No.23445525

>>23445343
I thought Nimu was the biggest ES Vtuber. I don't know anything about ES chuubas but all the times somebody post numbers I see her in the top

>> No.23445552

>>23439152
I will fuck gold ship....

>> No.23445553
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>>23445419
>pets
"pets"

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23445577

>>23445469
On the other hand, of course, people will mald that Watame got a sololive and IRyS to this day didn't get even a proper song release and won't connect the dots on the why for that

>> No.23445595

>>23445472
Jesas Vshojo is dying. It's less ironmous inclining and more like she's absorbing all their power

>> No.23445616

>>23445470
>everyone who points out how holos are currently getting less views than a niji is one person
take your schizo meds

>> No.23445625

>>23445469
Mio cancelled a fucking stream before because Taiga was being a fucking nigger. THIS IS NOT NEW TO HOLOLIVE. IT WILL NEVER BE NEW TO HOLOLIVE.

>> No.23445675

>>23445242
Kudasai is a mexican anime website, she's basically indie.

>> No.23445682

>>23445524
While it may drive us crazy at times with the numbers, this is why HoloEN is kino. NijiEN fishes for numbers and tries to force buff content and it comes off as unnatural and not kino. The large collabs and karaoke spam everyday gets tiring.

>> No.23445691

>>23445419
>The funny thing is HoloJP will do the same thing if their pets are sick
>>23445498
>Shion's cat incident.
They won't. They were always very serious about it and either suck it up and do their jobs
>like Rushia and 3rd gen concert
or will do the most serious and inimaginable action for a japanese professional and take days off work to tend to their family members (or pets in this case)

They won't half ass it

>> No.23445729

>>23445525
Based on Twitch tally posts that includes both of them:
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/_/search/boards/jp.vt/text/nimu%20zilverk%20tally
>Nimu - 3
>ZilverK - 11

>> No.23445742

>>23445392
complaints about EN game choice is overdone and timelooped, we know for a fact they don't care about numbers, CCV might as well not exist for them and they definitely don't check their analytics unless management asks them to. Can we stop trying to be outraged over this? Just be objective and report the numbers. I agree with >>23445524

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>>23445682
>HoloEN is kino
really? kino in /#/ ? is this the equivalent of niji chemistry cope?

>> No.23445775

>>23445675
So Crunchyroll-hime is also an indy?

>> No.23445784

>>23445524
>HoloEN does not give a shit about numbers. They do not give a shit about Superchats. They DO care about their audience
That doesn't even make sense.

If by result of their actions a significant share of their audience feels left out enough to completely drop out how are they caring about their audience?

Everything you said is true if instead of "care about their audience" you said "care about themselves"

>> No.23445796

>>23445775
in the grand scheme of things, yes.

>> No.23445825

>>23445691
It's not like Mumei cancel her stream.

>> No.23445833

>>23445784
Tourists aren't their audience. Most of their actual audience would rather see them enjoy something and have fun with something rather than bashing their head in with something they don't like just because it brings in more tourists.

>> No.23445835

>>23445524
>>23445682
i dont think is imposble to have fun while playing something good or buff games or ideas. that is my main gripe with holoEN beside the total darkness fans are left on when they are working on things.
Bae got asked "anything planned for golden week" "work work and work"
i think the only advantage nijiEN have content wise is the fuckers dont do anything offstream.

>> No.23445847

>>23445682
> this is why HoloEN is kino
> they don't care about if they alienate a segment of their audience, as long as they are having fun
There is an even better way to have fun then, they can play the games they like to an audience of zero in their personal time

>> No.23445888

>>23445321
Exactly as the debuff detective wanted.

>> No.23445938

>>23445796
But aren't the companies the ones funding and managing those 2?

>> No.23445990

>>23445825
>It's not like Mumei cancel her stream.
That's my exact point.

>>23445833
>Tourists aren't their audience. Most of their actual audience would rather see them enjoy something and have fun
OK anon, people that regularly watch their streams except for the ones that absolutely unwatchable aren't their audience, only the sycophants that will put up with anything they do are the REAL audience.

That's a tautology too because the biggest the debuff, the more of the audience will be recast as "not real audience, just tourists" and the only ones considered "real audience" are the ones that didn't bail

>> No.23446016

>>23445784
>If by result of their actions a significant share of their audience feels left out enough to completely drop out how are they caring about their audience?
what does this even mean

>> No.23446023

>>23445242
Usually i just read the description and "team" link
I sometimes give up on these "affiliations" because it turns out that the team is just that, a small grouping, nothing official.

For her, I just didn't get so far down to the Credits.

>> No.23446154

TIL the only way HoloEN can possibly be true to their audience is to spam Minecraft and Karaoke since they literally have no other proven sustainable buff content

>> No.23446162

>>23446016
Ina has a stable 11k audience. She then choose to play Opus to an audience of 8k first, then 5k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/fPAAiC4usqg
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/adnWNyVWM_I

Is pushing away those 3k to 6k "caring about her audience"?
Are they no longer "her audience"?

>> No.23446160

>>23445625
TAIGA HATE

>> No.23446187

>>23445796
corpo tubers are corpo no matter their ccv, wtf are you on, there is a hard line between corpo and indie

>> No.23446278

>>23446162
>pushing away
jesus christ get a grip

>> No.23446283

>>23446162
Delete your post.

>> No.23446379

>>23446154
yes. numberfags aren't satisfied unless every stream is 10k

>> No.23446393

>>23446154
>since they literally have no other proven sustainable buff content
If that's true and their only buff content is MC and karaoke I stand corrected. That would make me wrong wrong at this post (>>23446162), that audience bailing out is really *not* their audience and all of HoloEN
>except maybe Gura
is actually a branch with a 3k to 5k CCV audience that can push to 10k on occasion powered by tourists.

I don't really believe that, I believe they have an IMMENSE potential to groom a much wider audience but if you are true and the only buff they have available is MC and Karaoke, that would be the conclusion

>> No.23446395

>>23446154
not really, terraria,arc, difffernt collabs and ideas they can do.
back4 blood, left4dead,etc,etc
a well organied collab is a buff but the girls are just to busy. Almost all of the collabs gura did in hwe last week outside the one with towa were made in last minute.

>> No.23446398

"you should only do buff content" is unironically stupid advice only Mysta, Luca and Vox would give you

No I didn't say NijiEN because the rest of them do not do that

>> No.23446445

>>23446398
the problem is that they arent doing buff content not that they should od only that.

>> No.23446484

>>23442736
The view growth dropped more than I thought.

>> No.23446539

>>23446445
Ame is literally playing Elden Ring right now. Mumei had one of her biggest buff contents scheduled for tonight until pet hort. Literally none of them did "debuff" content today either.

>> No.23446588

>>23446379
What the fuck are you doing here?

>> No.23446643

>>23446539
>5k on an ER stream at NA primetime on a Saturday
ER isn't a buff game anymore

>> No.23446678

>>23446588
I am being rational, you can be in numbers thread without thinking that every stream will be buff

>> No.23446680

>>23446539
ame played eldenring by srtting the frame 1hr before streama nd tweetwing about it AFTER starting the stream.
but at this point that is ame streams, of she was in only one timeslot sure np. but since she keeps jumping timeslots she debuffs any content she does.
But im talking in general. mumei has been doing good mxiing debuff and buff.

>> No.23446724
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>>23446278
For fuck sake, how is that not "pushing the audience away", "turning them off" or other similar expressions?

>>23446398
>you should only do buff content
Who the fuck said that? People are asking for something a whole lot more modest
>M-Maybe Sana should try something other than Nintendo Games, like 16 out of her 25 streams this year
>M-Maybe she could try something other than Kirby, which was 9 out of her last 15 streams

Something modest like that

>> No.23446764

Has Reimu passed Fauna's peak yet after almost 2 hours because if not JFC

>> No.23446773

HoloEN is dying…

>> No.23446792

>>23446680
It's on her schedule, let's not pretend it's a guerilla or anything

>> No.23446838

>>23446764
No and some anon ITT is basing his entire schizo manifesto on NijiEN girls beating HoloEn today.

>> No.23446944

>>23446792
nigga even ame filters toursit with her schedule.
>AMT

and even was one hour late than her schedule say

>> No.23446971

>>23446838
>today
more like every day. it's like that picture that says "local man predicts hololive will fall the 7th time this month" or something like that.

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>>23446724
I'll make a carveout for Kronii here: she really mixed and matched this month and her numbers show her improvement.

Even then, the three solo games she just picked
>Return of Obra Dimn
>Sayonara Wild Hearts
>The Pathless
I can easily see her numbers on a watchalong of the fucking Emoji Movie beating a future installment of those games and her audience is groomed to be faithful as fuck, they don't bail on her for no reason

>> No.23447200

>>23446971
It feels like this thread's been relatively good other than that. Actual numbers talk in the numbers thread.

>> No.23447215

>>23447076
It's weird because Gura debuff streams seem to be..not as debuff as for the others? Like a neutral Gura stream is probably 17k whereas most of her omega debuff ones are 12-13k. Her numbers don't halve or go 1/3 for debuffs compared to others.

>> No.23447275

IRC Kronii's last Karaoke stream was in January right i wonder what kind of numbers she could get from one after all this time

>> No.23447382

>>23447275
15k probably. 10k seems to be an easy karaoke feat for most, evne if they don't always get there, and rarity +kronii actually being a popular EN buffs can push an extra 15k

>> No.23447434

>>23447076
wasn't Pathless sponsored?

>> No.23447530

>>23447215
that's because Gura has the highest floor of any EN

>> No.23447582

>>23445990
If buff contents are not filled with tourists, then why are the chat gray? At this rate, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

>> No.23447584

>>23447434
i wish

>> No.23447897

> Complaining about pet issues
Is this another bug poster? Didn't they harass a girl for "prioritizing her pet's health over her audience"?

>> No.23448009

>>23447215
Gura's the only EN girl that can tank bebuff content due to her sheer popularity. All I really want from the girls is to be sparse with debuff shit. They don't need to maximize every stream with numbers in mind but fuck, avoid the games and streaming content that are obvious stinkers.

>> No.23448056

>>23447897
Holofags really should stop blaming "le zhangs" or "le evil nijiniggers" for everything, and I say this as a holofag
>inb4 t. nijinigger

>> No.23448088

New subscriber growth video
https://youtu.be/MhkLY7ZZsNI
https://youtu.be/MhkLY7ZZsNI
https://youtu.be/MhkLY7ZZsNI

Starts from 2016 so there's a lot of oldheads.
You can clearly see the rise and plummet of Game-bu.
Wth's a Gibpuri btw?

>> No.23448095
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>>23447215
The problem with Kronii (and I'm a regular watcher, I love her voice and catch even the VODs) is that the games she picks aren't very conducive for interacting with chat or even talking.

Her main asset is her velvet voice but for some games (like that Hidden Through TIme) or the recent Sayonara, which I will as an example, she spends most of the time concentrated in the game, either not talking or berating herself for sucking at it.

Here is an example
https://youtu.be/2BUWNbghnOU?t=5113

From this point on Kronii spends five whole minutes trying (and failing) to clear a level, in the most absolute silence except when she berates herself for sucking, and then in the sixth minute she says something like
>yeah, I'm a bad streamer, this is not good streaming

She's not the only one to suck at one game or another, she's just failing at entertaining the audience with her suffering, be it with cute suffering noises
>like Choco
or absurd fits of rage
>like Rushia
or wisecracks and blame shifting to the audience and banter
>like Gura and Pekora

Kronii just goes silent and try and fail and try and fail.
That's not good streaming and the audience will obviously thin out, who the fuck wants to watch a faceless voiceless gamer suck at a game?

I say all that as a fuck huge fan of Kronii and one that tries to catch her every stream but when catching on VOD I just skip to the talking part because when she pick such bad games she's definitely not looking after her audience

>>23447530
>that's because Gura has the highest floor of any EN
There is a reason for that and it's not just cunny. She can make a bad game entertaining

>> No.23448210

>>23448056
> it's not an outside party
So as a holofag, you are saying holofags are harassing their streamers for taking care their pets?

>> No.23448296

>>23448210
Who the fuck is harassing anyone? Unless Mumei is coming to this cantonese mariacchi listening bulletin board, to be best of my knowledge, nobody is harassing her

>> No.23448388

>>23448296
Did you not read the thread?
Do you just surf the board and join the thread based of the last three posts?

>> No.23448505

>>23448388
I am the one saying Mumei, if the situation is serious, should take a leave of how many days she would need to take care of her ill family member (pet) instead of just half assing both sides of her life and *delay* the stream to take her family (pet).

If I were saying it to her face I would be a little more polite but I don't count on her to come to this place so I can speak freely

>> No.23448523

How is Polka getting 10k at this hour? With this game?
https://youtu.be/HeDQh7AuOqM

Is GW that much of a buff?

>> No.23448589

>>23448523
She tagged it with HoloGGW, maybe it's tourists in for the tournament?

>> No.23448601

>>23448523
Taiko is buff asf, game is fun to watch. But yeah it helps that it's GW

>> No.23448695

>>23448056
Always need a boogeyman.

>> No.23448721

>>23447200
the more bait threads there are in the catalog, the better the state of this thread is.

>> No.23448792

>>23448721
Pretty much; especially when NippleEN needs defending.

>> No.23448914

>>23448505
You have moved your take from:
> Putting pets ahead of their careers will be their professional undoing
to:
> Take a leave of how many days she would need to take care of her ill family member
You just wanna shit on the EN regardless.

>> No.23449033

>Ame ER can't even break 7k anymore after numerous funnels and no overlap
Her erratic scheduling, disregard for overlap, and aimless playing style really killed the numbers for this playthrough.
People were able to follow Ina's playthrough for the most part because she streams at the same time and rarely gets overlapped.
The worst part is, judging from Ame's current progress, she's going to need to do 10 more streams if she's thinking of finishing the game.

>> No.23449078

>>23449033
People are still funneling in. Calm the fuck down.

>> No.23449130

>>23449033
It's just another oblivion stream at this point.

>> No.23449195

>>23448914
It's the same point from the start anon. See >>23445149, there are provisions on the law to allow for a professional to take days off to take care of their loved ones.

If it is urgent and important the correct way is to take as many days off as she needs and fix the problem, not half ass it by delaying streams, cancelling streams and the likes.
That's the difference between a professional in any area and a hobbyist, the strict boundaries set between their professional life and their personal one.

>> No.23449246

>>23449078
Even if she breaks 7k (not looking like it since Irys is starting in 15 minutes with another debuff stream), it's still below her median and not a good number for her even for her infamous standards.

If you look at how gratingly slow her climb is in the first hour, it's pretty obvious that people aren't interested in this playthrough anymore.
>Took her 20 minutes to get to 4k
https://vrabi.net/video/HlXSgopwMHM

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>>23449246
>(not looking like it since Irys is starting in 15 minutes with another debuff stream),

>> No.23449328

>>23449130
>It's just another oblivion stream at this point.
That's exactly what it is.

>> No.23449336

>>23449290
Nice, ignore the rest of the post then.

>> No.23449346

>>23448792
Did another yab happen that I missed besides the gorilla incident (which looks like has died down)? I just chalked it up to all the SEA dogs going to sleep.

Last thread didn't seem too bad either, yet some people were still complaining.

>> No.23449376

>>23448601
Fuck, I really want Gura to play Taiko again.

>> No.23449451

>>23449290
IRyS should play RE2 (censored version so it won't get flagged like with Gura).

>> No.23449479

>>23449376
does EN have perms?

>> No.23449543

>>23449451
I remember Irys's RE8 is also censored version, if she wants to go uncensored she needs vpn right?

>> No.23449570

I think the saddest part about Kronii is that for a while, she was genuinely getting numbers close to Gura's. She wasn't just "2nd EN" like Mumei/Ina/Mori can be, she was "holy shit actually close to the first".

>> No.23449589

>>23449479
Did the old perms expired?

>> No.23449621

>>23449570
Kronii could play all the buff games she wanted but she was never going to have staying power because her personality sucks. Not "she's a bad person" sucks, but a more "she literally has no charisma" sucks.

>> No.23449632

>>23449451
Can JP members stream uncensored version or they just play the censored because is the default they have?
In case the answer is that JP can't stream the uncensored version, if she were to play it could she play the uncensored version? (since she's in Japan)

>> No.23449657

>>23449195
Your first point is asking the girls to not prioritize their pets to pursue higher numbers while your second point telling to take long breaks while working on voodoo numbers to predict their pet conditions. Do you even own a pet?

>> No.23449660

>>23449589
only ever played it for (sponsored? bamco pr was in chat) release day stream

>> No.23449667

>>23449632
Didn't mori play RE8 uncensored or am I thinking of something else

>> No.23449758

>>23449621
Kronii should be treating every solo stream like a collab with her chat instead of whatever the hell she's currently doing.

>> No.23449803

>>23449621
>no charisma
what?

>> No.23449829

>its debuff i swear

>> No.23449887

>>23449657
>Your first point is asking the girls to not prioritize their pets to pursue higher numbers
It is the same point and wider than just Mumei and, ironically, the one person to do the correct thing was Sana which just dropped everything to solve her personal problem.

If Mumei dog is so sick she has to take urgent care of it she should cancel the stream outright, take the day or as many days and fix it.
Now, if the situation is not urgent enough to warrant such extreme measure she should make arrangement to have someone tend to it and fulfill her professional obligation.

Delaying it to do a quick run and return to stream right after is doing it the halfheartedly way and treating their jobs as a hobby

Here is the entirety of the point being made
>if it is serious, deal with personal life first
>if it is not, don't half ass it

>> No.23449979

>>23449887
they're going to the vet to have the animal throw up. it'll be completely fine after that, sleeping. take an hour to refresh, then stream. talk about making a big deal out of a small delay

>> No.23450063

>>23449667
https://youtu.be/Fci6PnbyaxI?t=2416

>>23449803
She's actually fucking lucky people can settle for a hot bod and a hot voice, because all she is right now is a depressed zoomer. She's bad at interacting with chat, she's bad at not hyper focusing on most games, she doesn't really give commentary as often as you'd expect a streamer to. I think the most I've heard her talk in a stream was Inscyrption and that's because it was such a low energy game that there was literally nothing else to do but joke about it, especially because she was so bad at it.

Ironically enough she's better off stream in a fucking Twitter Space than she is on stream.

>> No.23450098

>>23449570
Mumei or Fauna deserved that debut buff spot

>> No.23450193

>>23449570
>She wasn't just "2nd EN" like Mumei/Ina/Mori can be, she was "holy shit actually close to the first".
Pretty sure this only lasted like 2 weeks, which was debut buff if anything.

I'm a believer that Kronii could be a 12k median streamer (just 1 minecraft stream a week and 2 collabs on her channel a month would do wonders), but I've accepted that it's never going to happen.
She's literally the type of person where if you tell her about her numbers potential, she'll do the opposite instead and sabotage her numbers.
If the numbers and love she got in the Moona minecraft collab didn't make her feel like streaming it again, nothing will.

>> No.23450209

>>23450098
>Mumei or Fauna deserved that debut buff spot
Not with the way the two of them were for the first month or two.

>> No.23450229

>>23449979
>making a big deal
It's not making a big deal, it is pointing out something obvious, two things even

1) that these girls are treating their jobs as a hobby
2) that this have impact in their main performance evaluation criteria: their numbers

>Sorry, I know we had a scheduled commitment but I have to take my dog to the vet to puke so I'll arrive late
wouldn't fly in most workplaces regardless of profession.
The answer would likely be the
>please take the day off to deal with your personal problems and reschedule

The only reason I'm banging on this point is because I believe every EN girl has a potential to a 10k, 12k median with the littlest extra effort put into improving

>> No.23450241

>>23450209
??? The worst Fauna did was stream like 2-3 hours. She's been the exact same content wise, for better or worse.

>> No.23450299

>>23438194
>I mean lets be fair, that goes for a lot of talents. Like we can argue that Pekora has been “lucky” since a large portion of her streams have started in JP primetime where, for whatever reason it may be, JPs have stopped streaming in until later in the night.

Being available and being genuinely entertaining is not luck.

>> No.23450297

>>23450229
they should treat it as their hobby. no idea what you're on about. calm down

>> No.23450356

https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1520598787441393664
>She's streaming

>> No.23450372

>>23450297
kek this is Hololive not hobbysanji

>> No.23450400

>>23450241
She and Mumei had debut jitters. Its been a while but it felt like Fauna would annoyingly giggle every other sentence for the first couple of weeks out of nervousness.

>> No.23450421

>>23450209
Everyone was a nervous wrecking at the debut (Especially Mumei), Kronii just hid it very well with her ability to perform voices/meme voices

>> No.23450425

>>23450297
>they should treat it as their hobby
If they want to be at the exact point they are right now, that's OK.
The girls treat their jobs like a hobby, then their managers treat them like hobbyists and give them as much support as a hobbyist would get, like telling Kiara
>lol, just travel to Ame's place and do your 3D there

There is a path for improvement tho and it starts with them

>> No.23450488

>>23450356
>GW buff comes on
>The ultimate numberfag appears
Is she only going to stream buff content a few times a month to even get a rarity buff?
Is she a bigger numberfag than Peko?

>> No.23450530

>>23450421
And her confident/egocentrism act

>> No.23450556

>>23450297
>they should treat it as their hobby
That doesn't bode well for this thread because NijiEN grinds like it's a job and it's paying off with a massive incline in numbers in the past few months. Shit on Luxiem and Noctyx's content all you want, but they were basically pulling off FeBAEuarys themselves and streaming everyday for many hours.
If this thread wants HoloEN to keep their numbers supremacy, taking it chill and easy isn't going to cut it.
Success in streaming has always rewarded those who work hard and grinded.

You're talking to people who care more about numbers than the streamers themselves so ofc they're going to be autistic when the streamers sabotage their numbers.

>> No.23450569

>>23450356
Please play Apex

>> No.23450588

>>23450556
>massive incline
You can't be serious.

>> No.23450590

>>23450425
>managers treat them like hobbyists
>lol, just travel to Ame's place and do your 3D there
source?

>> No.23450597
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23450597

>>23450488
>Show up
>Do a couple of serious streams
>Get paid to eat sushi in front of 40k people
>Call it a month and leave

>> No.23450662

>>23450588
but it's happening tho. you think that reimu could get 7k with a unarchive karaoke months ago?

>> No.23450663

>>23450588
You can literally check for yourself.
Look at Luxiem's numbers in Dec/Jan 2021 and compare them to Mar/Apr 2022.
You can compare Noctyx's numbers from their Mar and April too and see everyone except Yugo (the one who took a stupid break) inclined. Tbf, Yugo sucks at streaming so she was always going to be a runt.

>> No.23450676

These hours are truly the worst.

>> No.23450675

>>23450556
>Massive incline
anon Niji's numbers went DOWN this month and this is including the 10583953252 unarchived karaokes that've inflated their numbers. Not sure what you're getting at with that statement.

>> No.23450689

>>23450590
Unironically, Kiara member stream

>>23450556
>If this thread wants HoloEN to keep their numbers supremacy, taking it chill and easy isn't going to cut it.
I can't reconcile the fact that, in thread that criticized Myth for telling Council to "take it easy" there are people saying Council should "take it easy"

>> No.23450718

>>23450569
She will sing,.

>> No.23450868

>>23450597
only manjigumi can do this

>> No.23450881

>they should run themselves ragged because I said so

>> No.23450898

>>23450676
Everytime Niji retards come here it's a shitshow because of their little man syndrome. They can't exist in this thread without making an attempt to directly compare them to Hololive or find ways to shit on EN. They just don't know how to function without it. And they're all being serious too. It's actual shizo like behavior

>> No.23450900

>>23450662
>>23450663
Luxiem has been on a steady decline.
No more 10k median.

>> No.23450915

jwu and i was reading the thread, what's with the psychopathic takes on pets up there, that's some unironic chang shit

>> No.23450918

>>23450675
>in the past few months.
Compare their numbers from Dec/Jan 2021 to Mar/Apr 2022. They already inclined.
Mysta and Vox's medians are like 200 off from what they were last month, which is barely a decline, number fluctuations like this happen month to month.

>10583953252 unarchived karaokes that've inflated their numbers.
They've done more SC readings this month than ever before so it balances out the unarchived karaokes. It's just 1 stream, just like how Mumei was getting sub-10k medians when she did 3-4 16k unarchived karaokes a month in previous months.

>Not sure what you're getting at with that statement.
Reimu got 7k with an unarchived karaoke today, do you think she was going to get that during her debut week if she tried to do it then?
You think anyone would expect Luca to get 40k on a karaoke when his debut numbers were 3k?
When Ike got a 22k karaoke in Jan 2022, it was considered impressive, but that NijiEN record has been broken many times now in Apr 2022.

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23450928

Numbers

>> No.23451006

>>23450928
>everyone dying or stalling
niche's dying, time to jump ship

>> No.23451030

EN3 needs to happens so you nigs will stop letting Council olive rent free in your heads.

>> No.23451046

>>23450928
man noctyx flopped hard

>> No.23451100

>>23450900
>>23443604
>No more 10k median
>Vox Akuma 9937 median 12115 avg
>Mysta Rias 9650 median 10483 avg
Oh no, their medians were 400 away from last month, they're doomed.
You know if either of them did 1 less SC reading, they would be 10k medians again right?

HoloEN medians shift by thousands month to month unless you're Ina.

>> No.23451106

I just realized IRyS has only gained 14k subs in a month. Isn't this really bad?

>> No.23451129

>>23451100
sad cope

>> No.23451138

God I fucking hate nijiniggers.

>> No.23451153

>>23451106
holo's subs have stalled for literally everyone except for like startend if you haven't noticed

>> No.23451171

>>23451030
Council olive?

>> No.23451206

>>23451106
Irys mentioned that she's still getting sub culled everyday.
I assume most Holos are.

>> No.23451208

>>23451106
Youtube has activated some sort of new sub cull mechanism, we've even heard holos talk about it

>> No.23451230

>>23451100
Their average is also going down.
> if you remove the low numbers, you are left with the high numbers
What is this argument? Have some class and take the L.

>> No.23451254

There it is again blaming another party. Zhang and nijiniggers
Holoenfags are the worst

>> No.23451307

Holy shit Hololive really lives rent free in his head

>> No.23451360

In about 30 minutes!
https://youtu.be/qOiO-pc55pU
https://youtu.be/qOiO-pc55pU
https://youtu.be/qOiO-pc55pU

>> No.23451361

>>23450689
ok so i searched the archives and found the reason
>Kiara said that all studios in Europe are booked out for months
>Management suggested to go to USA to Ame's house to use her suit, so Kiara suggested maybe using a studio in USA
>Kiara is saying that if she goes to USA, she will probably go travelling for a while
>Also apparently, the more advanced tech in studios is already booked out
so you left out a lot of details of why they suggested that

>> No.23451366

>>23451206
That’s just her coping

>> No.23451384

>>23451360
wrong thread but yeah I'm excited for mre

>> No.23451409

>>23451230
>Their average is also going down.
Can chartanon post March 2022 numbers so we can check?

Do you even know how median works? Their medians are within hundreds of the arbitrary cutoff point of 10k, which means if you remove 1 obvious debuff stream, they would've made the cut.
The whole premise of their "decline" because they dropped from 10k is 1 more debuff stream than usual.

>Have some class and take the L.
I don't even watch them, this is strictly numbers talk.

>> No.23451419

>>23451366
but she isn't the only one talking about it

>> No.23451426

>>23451384
Ah sorry wrong tab

>> No.23451455

>>23451419
All cope

>> No.23451500

>>23451366
>>23451455
retard

>> No.23451555

>All of NijiEN is the two top streamers
This man cannot be serious can he

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23451564

>>23450556
>NijiEN grinds like it's a job and it's paying off with a massive incline in numbers in the past few months
Huh, let's not exaggerate. Here is the chart for the 30 days median of peaks for the three girl branches

>Lazulight had a modest growth in February and is stable since then
>Obsydia had a significant growth also in February, but is slowly reclining
>Ethyria had a significant growth, but it was from 1k to 1.7k

NijiEN girls aren't competing in the same league of the numbers being talked here and they're the ones that ground the hardest on the NijiEN side.
Grinding doesn't mean anything (in itself) but being lazy necessarily means lost opportunity

>> No.23451580

>>23451419
anon, don't bother, there's always retards who call sub culls a cope

>> No.23451598

>>23451361
I don't know that 3D studios are actually very busy and can be booked out

>> No.23451638

>>23451598
?

>> No.23451651

> I'm a holofag, I swear, but let me promote this non-hololive vtubers while shitting on hololive. Did I mention that I'm a holofag?

>> No.23451687

>>23451555
If you weren't a retard and can actually read, you would realize that Vox and Mysta were only mentioned because some anon thinks the whole of NijiEN is reclining because the top 2 didn't get 10k medians this month.

>> No.23451726

>>23451598
> Supply < Demand
Sounds like a business opportunity.

>> No.23451754

>>23451361
>so you left out a lot of details of why they suggested that
Anon, this is more than enough to prove the point being made
>Kiara said that all studios in Europe are booked out for months
>Management suggested to go to USA to Ame's house to use her suit

Kiara's 3D is supposed to be her biggest moment in a while and she wants to do it right. Telling her
>lol, just jerry rig it
is not treating this event as it should be treated.

>> No.23451787

Honestly I don't put much stock into NijiEN inclining, this was their debut unarchived karaoke month + celebrations, if they can keep it up then I'll call it an incline.

>> No.23451795

if you have to say you're a "holofag", you're obviously not one

>> No.23451807

>>23451787
nigger they didn't even incline WITH those buffs they DECLINED

>> No.23451817

>>23451754
as opposed to doing what exactly?

>> No.23451867

>>23451564
While it does show that all 3 groups inclined, I was mostly referring to Luxiem's numbers inclining the past few months and how NijiEN's ceiling for solo streams and multi-POV collabs is much higher than what it used to be.
Not to mention overlap in NijiEN is worse than ever now and the girls are still getting better numbers than late 2021, which a good sign.

>> No.23451871

may 1: nijien gold
may 2: nijien gold
may 3: nijien gold
and so on
easy nijien 31 - 0 holoen

>> No.23451876

>>23444937
Anon.. they got EN permissions last month, that's why they began doing it lately

>> No.23451883

>>23451795
I mean what's the most neutral way to say it? Holobro/friend/whatever sounds like a falseflag

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