/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23252149
>best EN
>Not Irys
Try again anon

>>23252195
>numbers

>>23252195
IRyS fags are unironically the new cancer of /vt/. I fucking hate them so much. Any opportunity to shill their shitty redditbait goblin.

>>23252149
Suisei too
Blue women need a nerf

>>23252195
but she is blue right now anon.

>Best EN
Fauna
>Best JP
Watame
>Best ID
not such thing

>>23252149
Are ypu talking about numbers because if so you are wrong. Aqua gets the best numbers for JP. She has some blue but is mostly pink/purple.

>>23252149
>Color scheme affect numbers
Wow what a surprise!

>>23252791
>redditbait goblin
retards that don't watch streams outting themselves.

>>23252149
> Flat.
> Child-like demeanor

That's not the best ID, though the best one is still blue.

>>23252853
Watame is boring as shit. Marine, Korone, Pekora, Subaru, Miko and Nene are all better than her.

>>23252149
Best En is between Ame, Fauna and IRyS though.
And numbers != Quality, so Pekora can be literally be replaced most of the jp members.
Also i think Korone is by far the most influential vtuber for the modern era

>>23252979
Shit taste

>>23252962
>blue
Anon, are you blind?

>>23253020
>Pekora can be literally be replaced most of the jp members.
Like who?

>>23252149
Fauna is green and Moona is purple. I agree about Pekora though.

>>23253020
Most influential is between Sora (of course), Korone, Miko, and Coco. Pekora is super popular but she didn't really influence the industry like those others did.

>>23253326
Coco is gone. Miko's influence is primarily relevant to the development of the western market. Korone is neither as popular nor as influential as Pekora, who inspired both Kiara and Moona.
Also, the lack of Aqua in your post demonstrates that you're a newfag, as she's easily the most influential after Sora.

>>23253326
I disagree. I dont necessary think Pekora is more popular than Vtubers like Korone and Gura as there is a high chance that even your family members have seen Korone on the net.

>>23253592
>Korone is neither as popular nor as influential as Pekora, who inspired both Kiara and Moona.
Korone influenced Sana, Mumei, Kronii and IRyS(She sees her and Haachama as her oshi)

>>23253592
>Aqua
>Streams once a month
>Only plays Apex
>Influential
Roru

>>23252926
Pekora is not flat

>>23252149
The secret is not blue, but water themed. /#/ knows Marine zatsu, Aquapex, Gura karaoke and orca SCs are at the top of their game. Kobo is queen of IDs now too.

>>23253695
Not the same thing. Pekora was essential to the popularity of both Kiara and Moona. She did collabs that tangibly benefited their careers. Korone played no role in the popularity of any of those you mentioned. Maybe she "inspired" them, but she didn't play a serious role in the way Pekora did.

>>23252149
Presented without comment

>>23252149
Ina is purple though

>>23252195
Based

>>23253733
Current Aqua, sure. Current Sora isn't influential either. But the roles they played were enormous. If it weren't for Aqua's Azure Lane collab, Hololive would've died years ago.

>>23253816
Yes anon that makes her more inspirational.
And if thats your logic, Haachama is more influential than Pekora as she was Coco's inspiration(and coco has admitted that she taken ideas from her plenty of times.
She also is a huge inspiration for Laplus(though she sees Towa as her oshi, one of the major reasons she blew up so much initially was because of the rap battle between her and Haachama)

>>23252791
IRyS is the best in EN. This is a fact. Go ahead and seethe.

>>23252149
For me it's Ayunda Risu

>>23253980
There's a difference between Kiara modeling her online personality after Pekora for the first year of her career and Irys saying that she likes Korone. Irys, Kronii, and Sana have nothing in common with Korone. Mumei sort of does, with her whole cute-but-scary gimmick, but she's never done a real collab with Korone to my knowledge. You also probably believe that Gura actually watches Okayu lol.
I agree that Haachama is influential, although not to quite the same degree as Pekora. Everybody collabs with everybody, everybody takes ideas from everybody. But very few vtubers build up others the way Pekora built up Moona and Kiara.

>>23252149
>Risu
>Ame
>Miko
?????????

>>23252149
I mean, true

>>23252149
all of them voiced by lumi which is a qtie patooie

>>23254265
I mean we are talking about the inspirational Vtubers anon.
So i think according to that logic, the Vtuber who inspired others to become a Vtuber is the parameter that should matter the most.
If we talk about the 3 most influential Vtubers currently, then my immediate answer will be Fubuki, Korone and Gura.
Fubuki because she was the first one to break into mainstream overseas(Also not to mention if we are talking about the other thing, she was the sole reason Holostars is this popular. Even Roberu admits that before the Fubuki collab, the stars thought about quitting.)
Korone because she still is the poster girl for vtubers. Even my mom, who does not know shit about vtubers knows about Korone.
And Gura one is self explanatory.
And as much as it hates me to say this, Mori is also one of the most influential Vtubers rn

>>23252979

This man gets it.

>>23254658
>>23254265
>>23253980
>>23253695
>>23253592
>>23253733
>>23253326
>>23253652
>>23253020
Wrong!!
Right now Mori and Iron Mouse are the most inspirational Vtubers.
Mouse legit converted Cdawg, Anthony Padilla and Ludwig into vtuber(rn Xqc and Corpse are also on their way).
Mori because half the vtubers on twitch were inspired by her

>23255031
This man will single handedly unite all the Holobros to shit on Mori and Iron Mouse

>>23254039
>This is a fact
Lmao you saying it a billion times doesn't make it a fact

>>23253072
aqua

>>23254039
You mean the one who busted her throat in less than six months for mediocre songs? She legit ngmi in the long run
>>23255031
Sorry anon but
>Mouse legit converted Cdawg, Anthony Padilla and Ludwig into vtuber(rn Xqc and Corpse are also on their way).
We don't talk about e-celebs and anitubers
>Mori because half the vtubers on twitch were inspired by her
We don't talk about twitch

>>23255158

>>23253020
Pegor is numbers AND quality.

>>23252149
exactly

>>23255031
>Mori because half the vtubers on twitch were inspired by her
She didnt inspire anyone. People just say that because they know she would MAYBE be willing to collab or at least give them a shoutout or something. Cant say the same for the rest of EN members. Thats why some JP's say that Cali is their favorite. Like Lui for example. Oh, it is a pure coincidence that a girl with huge numbers that just happens to live in japan so they can off collab is her favorite EN. Yeah right.

>>23252791
I think they’re a little loud but they have a reason to be happy, and she’s far from redditbait fagchama

>>23255553
Cope

>>23254658
I think the word "inspire" is causing confusion, since the original post that I responded to actually used the word "influence". Given the context of the conversation I was using the two words interchangeably, but that seems to have caused a misunderstanding.

Influence is hard to measure, but I think the best metric for measuring it is in how it tangibly effects the behavior of others. "Inspiring others to become Vtubers" is a bad metric because, at the end of the day, its money that really inspires women to become Vtubers.

There are two types of influence relevant to this conversation: historical influence and current influence. Aqua, Sora, Fubuki, and Coco all rank high in historical influence but low in current influence. Those four have all done things that tangibly effected the course of Hololive's history. However, for one reason or another, those four no longer influence Hololive's destiny to the same extent as they used to. Pekora ranks the highest in current influence because her behavior tangibly changed the behavior of her coworkers. I have to keep reiterating this point: Moona and Kiara would be significantly less popular if it weren't for Pekora collaborating with them. On top of that, she's the most popular Holomem by a noticeable margin.

Korone and Miko are the most widely memed Vtubers, true, but there's a difference between people knowing you exist and people being actually influenced by you.

>>23255031
Ohh fuck off
go back to your thread

>>23253062
Colorblindchama...

>>23253072
suisei

>>23254039
You are a massive faggot, and also wrong. This is a fact. Go ahead and seethe.

>>23253592
>Pekora influenced Moona
I agree with Kiara part but when the hell did this happened, did Moona ever mentioned anything about it? Pegor only boosted Moona's popularity and that's it, if anything Coco is the one who influenced Moona

>>23254039
>Go ahead and seethe.
>>23257826
>start to seethe
Good boy, anon. Here's your bone *pat*

>>23255329
>Comparing themself with Jesus
Do Irystokeks really?

>>23252149
JP: Choco
EN: Kronii
ID: Kaela

>>23254265
pekers x mooner bring me to this hell hole

>>23255553
Lui is just a good-hearted and naive idiot like most JP's who like Mori. One of Lui's favorite things about Mori was Takamori and she didn't seem to grasp that is a sore spot and actually why a lot of EN's hate Mori.

>>23255553
Yep someone gets it

>>23252962
>Best ID
>No indog vieewer

>>23255830
so mentioning moona in your retarded post

IRyS only at EN stupid cunt

>>23252962
This is true

>>23252149
>blue and white color scheme
>petite woman
>acts like daughter or little sister
>bratty but also polite in a way
>doesn't swear or talk about anything dirty
>very interactive with chat
>not a great gamer but knows how to keep viewers interest during the game

>>23258917
>implying Kobo will maintain her audience after she started speaking english
>>23261722
This is the only thing I can agree with about these three

Blue and Red are most popular colors. On the other hand people hate orange (woman).

>>23263039
Bro the only green in Hololive got fired

>>23252149
best ID is purple
best EN is yellow
best JP is blonde

0 for 3, terrible op

>>23263145
>Bro the only green in Hololive got fired

>>23263373
OH FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT ONE OF MY OSHIS