/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23256870
Jealous teamates. Just look at the past few days.

>>23256870
.

>>23256870
People that have /vt/ as their oshi and dramaniggers

She's hated by racists because she is a rapper and by sexists, because she talks with men.

The rest is just fake outrage.

>>23256870
People who like Hololive

>>23256870
She ruins every collab she's involved in. Just look at today's collab.

>>23256870
Current deadbeats.

>>23256870
As usual anon, "Success breed Jealousy"

>>23257025
>Hated by racists
>Black Twitter and Jews have called her a racist

Heh... I'm just your typical 4channeler...

I bet karen is in these threads sometimes
Maybe she even makes the anti mori threads sometimes

I fucking hate wiggers. Never had a good experience with them
t. burger

The twitter pronoun crowd is trying to cancel her for saying the n word in 2014. They coördinate raids on /vt/ with their own discord servers, which is where most of her antis here are from.

>>23256870
she is a yab machine and pretty annoying, just look in a general when she has to collab with someone

>>23256870
Primarily, the same discordfags that did organised shitposting about holos/large vtubers.
Secondly, bandwagoners that are bored and join in. Some of them also out themselves as nijifans and/or SEA.

>>23256870
Everyone who actually likes hololive and idol culture

>>23257181
This desu.
Anything being said otherwise is just cuckbeat damage control.

>>23256870
Ways IRyS is better than Mori:
>Better singer
>Probably a better rapper if she gave it a go
>Not awkward at all, even with some of the scariest senpais. Keeps her cool, teases them like a normal functioning human and doesn't talk with a patronizing tone. Everyone loves her.
>Better at games
>Actually funny
>Loves Hololive
>No yabs at all
>Actual weeb
>Can speak Japanese
>Better fanbase
>Respects Japanese culture and doesn't try to exploit it for yaaas queeeen self-gain like a sellfish western whore

>>23257398
Stop false flagging as Irystrocrate nigger

Mori is an autistic alcoholic keyboard warrior that tries to bring people down to her level. Did I mention she doesn't keep her promises and shits up events? So basically a Karen incarnation of /vt/.

Despite her success, she clearly has obvious deficiencies that she still hasn't fixed. Her scheduling of the TTRPG being an obvious one, Her collabs being tolerable to brain meltingly bad like the 4 hour Shrek reference for the Elden Ring race, and letting haters live rent free in her head, despite the supposed success.

I don't like to hate because most vtubers have something that someone likes but I always hear "i just like her music" that is the thing I really don't get. She can't sing (look at the HoloAlternative PV) and her raps are lame nerd shit.

>>23256870
>just why is she so hated?
Check out THE THREAD on the keewee f*rms. Jump to page 4965 them scroll to around halfway down the page.

>hates hololive
>didn't bother learning anything about it for over a YEAR of being in it (only changed after he entire former friend circle abandoned her because she had nothing left)
>instead of adapting, chooses to try to drag HER wigger culture and obsession with males into hololive (throwing tantrums because cover won't allow her to collab with charlie for example, wanting to "burst hololives bubble" etc.)
>constantly phoned it in during collabs especially early on, clearly forcing herself to be there and LARP as a reaper
>meanwhile completely upbeat and professional whenever she gets to interact with non-hololive things especially 3D males (gigguk collab)
>completely horrible "friend" to Kiara
>can't fucking speak japanese after living there for years, somehow worse than fucking Ina who just half-assedly studied it
>said hololive is only 5% of her day, openly admitted she doesn't feel bad for breaking promises and not delivering content after over-promising it
>lies a LOT to manipulate genmates and the audience
>defended someone who shittalked hololive
>had a week+ long meltdown arc where she constantly fought with antis over the tiniest of issues, biting bait left and right and acting completely unprofessionally and then blaming drugs- sorry i mean "alcohol" for her behavior, then continuing to bitch about the same shit in her RM streams after "taking a self-induced break" on her holo account
>became a massive fucking alcoholic to the point of canceling streams due to hangovers, instead of fixing her shit she starts infecting IRyS and Baelz with the alcoholism
Just off the top of my head. I've hated her since early on and still hate her. But honestly, every time a yab happens I don't feel much because it's nothing unexpected (we knew she hated hololive since day 1, so who cares if she openly shits on it in her RM streams now?) and cuckbeat reacts are always gaslighting and spamming "timeloop, timeloop" anyway

That being said I do genuinely like her music.

>>23256870
we had this thread yesterday

>>23256870
Because she hates her job and it shows, that's it

>>23256870
anyone who likes hololive has reason to dislike mori

>>23256870
i applaud you for trying to derail any mori discussions. cuckbeats just can't get enough hate

>>23257081
Blacks Twitter is too busy having serious debates about Dragon Ball Super power levels, and there are no real Jews left.

>5+ posts with new IPs in the same ESL broken shift key style, saying the same shit as every other thread
Could you atleast make the samefagging not completely obvious?

>>23257711
obsessed

>>23256870

What would Mori have to do to redeem herself now anyways? Aside from the obvious shit like cleaning up her act, that is.

>>23257398
God she’s perfect

>>23256870
it's so hard to measure how hated someone here, since anyone can jump in to shitpost and pretend to be an anti

>>23257988
Leave the internet.

>>23256870
mori was my oshi when she debuted, she isn't my oshi anymore

>>23257398
Irys is in her late twenties early thirties, right? It sounds like she's matured and knows how to handle herself.
>>23257724
Mori is in their early twenties, sounds like she's still figuring herself out and making normal mistakes for that age bracket. She might improve, she might not. Getting famous at that age can fuck you up.

>>23257738
she needs hololive to survive and she owes everything to them despite acting like shes above it. really cool

>>23257181
I think I should be able to talk all the shit I want since she ruined what could have been a kino terraria collab. it actually got better when calli left near the end

>>23258352
Yeah she is 26

Probably a strawman shitposter but I'll respond just for the sake of newfag tourists which I'm sure we have many of.

Arguing in good faith is a rarity by nature of the anonymous imageboard which we inhabit. However that's not to say that nobody does it. On the Mori issue, there are at least 4 sides and two alignments. There are people arguing in bad faith for and against Mori. And then there are people arguing in good faith for and against Mori.

The people arguing in bad faith for Mori insist that she's done nothing wrong ever and everything is just Antis shitposting for (You's). This post would fit into it. They often make bad arguments like comparing people who criticize Mori to Chinks and saying this just like Coco. They make posts like ignorant Redditors or even normalfags and some of them may actually be. They are the ones to throw around the terms "incel" or to use "incel", "unicorn", and "idolfag" interchangeably without knowing the meaning. They are also most likely to say PEOPLE JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MALE COLLABS while ignoring that people are okay with Zun, Sugita, music producers, Japanese television comedians, etc, just not clout chasing dramaniggers like TT.

The people arguing in bad faith against Mori usually are just seaniggers or Anti's shitposting for (You)s. They make less than constructive posts like "All Deadbeats are cucks LMAO" and "Mori should graduate before she drags my oshi into a three way with Connor!" They are easy targets to point to for strawman arguments.

The people arguing in good faith for Mori are saying that she is still learning, that she's under a lot of pressure, that she hasn't done anything unforgiveable yet.

The people arguing in good faith against Mori say that she should really be more professional especially when on official corporate branded Twitter accounts, not respond to cuck porn posted by known Antis, not make posts referencing drugs, not "fire back just to own the haters" and generally act childish. They will also say it's been over a year and high time for Mori to get her shit together.

Both sides of the people arguing in good faith have one thing in common, neither of them really wants Mori to graduate or be unhappy. Because that would affect Mori or their oshi negatively. Everyone arguing in good faith for the most part wants her to unfuck herself and stop chugging stupid bitch juice all the time. They are just frustrated as to how she should do it and if she even wants to because of her stubborn contrarian mindset.

TLDR: No, people who actually give a shit about Hololive and aren't just seaniggers shitposting for (You)s are not happy. They want Mori to stop being a fuckup, not for her to be angry and bitter.

netrap and electroswing are garbage genres for autistic westerners and japanese people that don't know any better.

>>23258352
>>23258713(me)
Mori is 25 btw. So your whole armchair analysis doesn't work

At first Mori seems like one of those that would get more passionate about being a streamer but as time went on you can tell from the energy she brings to streams that it's not the case anymore. It's hard to watch streams from someone that doesn't seem to be trying anymore. Mori has all these new stream ideas but they all seem half-baked and tacked on just so she can say she's trying something new, even though she doesn't put any effort into any her ideas, as far as streams go. For example her english learning streams with the JPs. If she wants to focus on music and stream less, great, she can just tell people that. Suisei does the same thing. But when suisei streams she actually acts like she wants to stream and has a lot of stuff to talk to the viewers about.

>>23258352
Irys is less than a year older than Mori.

>>23258713
what? she looks 30

i'd also like to ad that whath mori does isn't rapping, it's a pastiche of that genre as projected through the lens of a white woman.

And what exactly do the deadbeats mean by "members of her extended universe"?

>>23256870
She's very low energy/effort during collabs and usually ruins them. Also she's a wigger who cannot sing normally.

>>23258826
IRyS ? Either you didn't do your reps or your confusing her with someone else

>>23258839
With Friends!

>>23258869
oh i thought you were talking about mori

>>23258826
she looks 35 because of the lean...

>>23258928
Mori is 25 so your reaction still works

>>23256870
I have come to hate her just because you faggots are the biggest attention whores on the board.

>>23258909
...the Sukonbus?

i cant speak for anyone else
but as for me, i simply find her utterly distasteful
her interests, her taste in music, her conversation topics, her humor; none of it appeals to me
on top of that, there are a few things she does that go beyond disinterest and into disgust and/or hate
there are a few things i actively dislike about her, but absolute worst for me is her condescending voice, i absolutely despise that shit

>>23258951
Bro she was so pretty and hot just a couple of years before Holo. It's crazy what alcoholism + actual workaholism will do to a woman

>>23259002
Nothing you say matters if you post it with a smug melon.

>>23259083
she as literally fat what?

>>23259130
Then I hereby absolve Mori of all wrongdoing, and no one on /vt/ shall ever speak ill of her ever again.

>>23259159
>ESL anti
>complete newfag
An iconic duo.

>>23256870
None most people here are just clipfaggots that dont watch streams

>>23256870
>just why is she so hated here?
because she's a white girl who's ugly and fat

>>23259194
Only half of this image is smug, so it's half a truthful statement
Antis in shambles, it's over

>>23259262
Which half is the truthful statement though?

>>23259083
Gunna have to show some proof since she looks ugly in all of the ones even pre-dating Japan.

I would say something but the
SMALL DICK POOR FAG JANNIES would ban me for it. Fuck you pieces of shit, kill yourselves

>>23256870
>>23257978

>>23259449
BASED

>>23259367
I'm not a doxxbeat I don't save that shit. But someone /here/ probably an anti made a good comparison before-after. Even if she's not your type, you can easily see how it's night and day

can someone spoonfeed me on the yab yesterday?

>>23256870
Stop trying to find a boogeyman
She's hated because she sucks, simple as

>>23256870
She is cringe incarnate. I will never watch a stream with mori in it, Anyone who disagrees will need to visit a brain surgeon otherwise.

>>23259832
mori recited the 14 words on stream

I don't hate her but I always feel like she doesn't belong. She's like that "friend" in a group everybody tolerates but nobody really likes. And then they move on and forget he existed. That's how I feel about other girls feeling towards her in their Hololive gig. So her having a dedicated fanbase always baffles me a bit. Like...why?

>>23259832
Her mom's instagram account got leaked

>>23259832
She talked about her roommate having an OnlyFans account.

>>23256870
have you seen her roommate perform?
It's fucking horrible. I can't believe people pay her for that shit. It's like something you'd see anime convention attendees do when there's an open mic

>>23260035
>It's like something you'd see anime convention attendees do when there's an open mic
Oh man that's so spot on, same cringy vibe

>>23260066
it also doesn't help that she's out of shape

>>23256932
Uh deadcuck janny? Why is this Mori roommate picture allowed to stay up?

>>23259966
>She's like that "friend" in a group everybody tolerates but nobody really likes.
How can you be that much of a thread reader ? Everybody that met her seems to like her even the JPs. LuiLui talk on every occasion she has how much she likes Mori. Suisei has nothing but respect for her. Kiara liked hanging out with her to the point of having a trip together. Even IRyS who would seem to be on the opposite of what Mori is, likes to hang out with her for some reason.

>>23256870
She's a grifter.
There are no rules against dating or talking about dating, see Choco-sensei.
She talks about all sorts of irl shit but just so happens to never mention having a boyfriend to get money, validation or whatever from parasocial simps.
And then she complains about these same parasocial simps, that she asked for, because they don't want her to collab with TT.
This kind of behavior would have been mocked if it was a 3d streamer but somehow it's okay when mori does it.

She's probably not the only holo that has done this and when it comes out they have boyfriends or husbands I will think they are despicable sub-humans as well but until then they get the benefit of the doubt. Also, these other holos haven't shit talked the audience they asked for.

>>23256870
we had this thread last night

>>23260155
90% of collabs with her I watched people were barely tolerating her. Nice she managed to find those 2 friends after almost 2 years of being in Holo.

>>23257070
Here's a better one anon

>>23257398
Even a vshoujo whore is better than Mori, comparing her to IRyS is just plain unfair.

Where is the rrat she had a bf came from?

>>23256870
I don't hate her because I don't care about EN but she does sound like an asshole with a drinking problem that will fuck her life up sooner or later

>>23260643
Search archives for mother and boyfriend

>>23257978
Cuckbeats pretend none of this is true.

>>23260677
HER BOYFRIEND IS HER MOTHER?????

>>23258839
They know she's an egotistical bitch, and they're into it.

Because they're colossal faggot cucks.

>>23256870
>Mori in hololive

>>23256870
Why Nipplesanji isn't in the list?

>>23258727
All this is true and well thought out, but no one's gonna reply cause it isn't a baitpost or something

>>23258727
t. someone who doesn't watch Mori

>>23256870
Mori is intentionally confrontational and obnoxious. She does it as a "joke", but if you're not in on the joke you're obviously not gonna like her.
And the fact that she does stupid shit after stupid shit and keeps fucking up collabs or in collabs, makes people lose goodwill for her over time, even if individually all of it are small things.
Well, and that's aside from holo purists, idolfags and unicorns who hate her for obvious resons.

>>23258727
Anon, why are you wasting all this time and energy composing an intelligent, rational explanation on a shitty bait thread?

>>23260555
>were barely tolerating her
Nice headcanon, Anon

>>23256870
the actual reason is that /vt/ loves to blow every little perceived defect out of proportion and that creates a feedback loop that makes people project on her more and see her as a hate sink
no long essay needed to explain it

>>23256870
People who are fans of the other HoloEN girls, mostly.

>>23256870
The answer is obvious, she gave it herself

>>23257169
>saying the n word in 2014.
Proof?

>>23256870
>who are even her antis? former deadbeats? unicorns? cumbuds?
holy deflection

Does Mori have cute feet

>>23257169
>he truly believes it

>>23257988
admit to being an alcoholic and quit drinking
cease RM streams, or at least make no mention, allusion, or coded references to hololive in them
drop TT
recognize that mori calliope and hololive is the reason for her success and satansquares should retire
make actual friends in hololive JP
learn how to group collab instead of narrating everything like it's a solo stream
stop with the fake forced enthusiasm, it's blindingly obvious when she doesn't care about something so it just sounds patronizing

tl;dr embrace hololive and make efforts to become a better group partner

>>23256870
She's hated by tribals for trying to unity.

>>23257852
> Blacks Twitter is too busy having serious debates about Dragon Ball
And yet they still took time out of their day to mock her shitty "rap" music.

>>23257724
>meanwhile completely upbeat and professional whenever she gets to interact with non-hololive things especially 3D males (gigguk collab)
I’m usually on the criticize Mori camp, but in all fairness this could be explained as her just doing PR or looking to draw in new viewers. Not that it’s not weird or anything, ideally she should behave this way all the time, but when you start to attribute malice to what very well could just be incompetence all the time, it starts to get incredibly draining

>>23261054
It’s a copypasta, from very near the beginning of the yabs when there was a lot to say. Not much effort on his part, he most likely didn’t even write it

>>23257978
what happened with pokemon?

>>23256870
She's the complete opposite of what an anime girl is. Imagine watching Lucky Star but every girl instead of being cute is just a western woman LARPing. Imagine Konata not being a cute degen otaku but actually being an entitled western Karen.
She's exactly what people try to evade when they escape into vtubers and anime.

>>23262538
trying to draw the TT audience into hololive is akin to trying to get people who play exclusively hero arena shooters to play hardcore milsim games. Vaguely similar but incompatible.

>>23258839
Other vtubers that they also like talking about. Some of them have obvious Mori connections like Milky Queen, Boogey Vox or Ririsya, but some are just fellow fans of Mori like Nene Amano, Miori, Yura, etc. The definition can get really thin and have someone who got a retweet from Mori two years ago like Akatsuki Luci. And sometimes, someone unrelated at all like Hachi. It was a cultural carry over from /jp/ when they used morig to talk about Ririsya since she's a non-holo and not allowed in /hlgg/. "Extended universe" just formalized what they have been doing for months.

There is no hard and fast rule to it, just as long as you can tangibly prove the vtuber has a Mori connection, you probably won't get shouted down for talking about them.

Because she is a wigger whore that cant take any criticism and even begs to play a game with donation on for an hour live (persona 3) while other vtuber just play it with donation off

>>23262997
So then that leaves either PR, or she’s stupid enough to not know that. I guess how she handled the whole connor thing might rule out PR, but that could again be her just being stupid

>>23256870
i asume she is orcschizo new target

>>23263319
Seems very cynical
"I am here to make money. I will do the things that make money. This is for the purpose of making money."
Soulless, like a wagie

>>23263400
She was already making a pretty penny, if she really want to play it like how she begs just turn the donation off, lots of her colleague play games like that

>>23256870
some of it is from former deadbeats, but most of it is from current deadbeats.

>>23263319
That's not how perms work, retard. She can't play Persona 3 without Atlus' explicit permission, regardless of monetization. That was what she was begging for.

>>23258727
honestly this, i hate mori but i don't really want her to graduate because it would make ame sad and would permanently fuck up myth

look at the rushia shit, i think cover had to terminate her given the circumstances but it still permanently fucks sankisei, which was previously arguably the greatest vtuber generation ever

>>23263708
Nijisanji chuuba played it before, hololive didnt get permission ? Thats new considering how big it was

>>23256870
Mori is very much "love it or hate it". If you love irony, hate sincerity, don't really like the concept of vtubers, and think that a joke gets funnier every time you repeat it, you will love her. If these aren't your beliefs, you'll probably hate her. Which is fine, different people have different tastes, one man's trash is another man's oshi, until she ends up collabing with someone you like watching and you end up getting exposed to her for longer than ten seconds.

>>23260186
cope

>>23256870
For me its the cuck praise tweet.

>>23263930
Nijisanji is virtually bigger than holo

>>23263930
Sony is a major investor in Nijisanji's parent company which helps in perms for certain games (namely Playstation exclusives like Persona)

>>23256870
All me

>>23256870

>>23263945
i don't understand why she's forcing herself into jp scene though. she stopped for a while and then she ramped it up

>>23256870
Seriously OP, just watch Mori Calliope’s latest stream (doesn’t matter what the “latest” is at the time you’re reading this, just whatever is the latest for you right now).

>>23263708
Turns out both hololive and nijisanji did get permission but playing anything before ps3 is JP language exclusive, and even if they play ps2 version it is emulator and it is ToS to atlus

Guess it just rub me the wrong way that mori took this to the street and dont let their manager do the talking on deals or just play their other games

>>23264775
That's a good summary of Mori in general, her intentions are generally good but she's just really stupid about it

>>23264775
>cover management
>doing anything
It was fucking Kiara who secured fromsoft permissions and not their useless managers. Pretty funny because she's not even a soulsborne fan. Mori lacked finesse on how to handle this but don't act like Cover does anything at all.

>>23264735
Oh, because then it would become obvious to me? But if it is so obvious, then why aren't you able to explain it plain and simple?

>>23264811
True but man she can be entitled too many times

>>23264896
She does not know her limits and that applies to everything she does, including accidentally doing too many things and promising too much. If you have someone more proactive she'll immediately fold. See; her Mori promise to Reine materialized to Beat Eater just because the peafowl had the good sense to cash in the coupon immediately.

>>23265134
Yeah guess that is one of the reason to not watch mori, the market too saturated either way to watch a chuuba that has some traits i hate

>>23256870
Teamates are literally always the answer.
Notice how any time anyone brings up the well known raid channel in their discord you get 20 people instantly showing up screeching about how there is no proof despite proof being posted 100 times over. And than when you spoon feed them they say its not proof.

Teamates have been ruining /vt/ since day 1 and do at least 80% of anti posts and false flagging.

Y’all really shouldn’t have gassed up her roommate so hard...

>>23263887
you are a dumbfuck, Ame hates Mori and would love to see her gone

>>23266284
We came here to laugh at you.

>>23256870
Friends with asshole jvloggers who talkshit about Japan whenever the locals don't let them get their way. English teacher expats are pieces of shit in the core.

>>23266458
>don't mind me, just here to put in zero effort into a collab

>>23263319
Come on that was December 2020, 3 months after she debuted. Stop letting a long deleted event from 16 months ago live rent free in your head. Move on.

This would be like me continuing to complain that Kiara didn't prepare well for her minecraft collab with Polka.

>>23266880
That game isn't friendly for heavier people anon. She would have broken her ankles from her sheer weight.

I don't give a crap about unicorn stuff, I just dislike people who are openly transparent about their motivation for money. The other vtubers are better at inhabiting their character so you can at least buy into the kayfabe, but Mori leans too hard into the "aw gee aw shucks boy I sure am a vtuber" schtick that everything comes off as overly cringe and fake.

>>23256870
She doesn’t respect Hololive culture

>>23257988
Literally that. Clean up her act and apologize to both the audience and (even if it's behind the scenes) to her genmates/other holomem. That's literally it. This keeps happening because she wont ever do that, she'll just keep doubling and tripling down. Forever.

>>23257169
>n word
Naggers?

>>23256870
fanbase reflects oshi and deadbeats are literal scum of the earth,

>>23260716
How is it different from Teamates saying Ame being the protagonist in EN

>>23267039
But her bitch ass personality stay the same

>>23264871
Because no one wants to fucking spoonfeed you. Regardless, if you can't see whats wrong after watching her streams, you're beyond hope anyway.

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>>23262654
I think that would be Mori pushing the Pokemon tournament forward because of permissions, which only really hit Mumei who wanted to build a team for it. At the very least it gave us a very funny little cup match out of it.

>>23268536
Because Ame doesn't act like the cock of the walk when she fucks up.

>>23256870
>hated here
Because her brand and personality embodies everything /vt/ hates about western culture.

>>23257025
>she is hate by racist
But I don’t hate her

>>23257081
>Implying black people and Jews can’t be racist

>>23262430
All of this. She's on the path to redemption, but she's really got to swallow that humble pie and let go of the idea that she's better than the job that's giving her stardom.

>>23275042
0% chance this is happening, she's been at the JP rap grind for so long it's her whole identity. I can even sympathize with a lot of her actions coming from habits she formed as a coping mechanism for all the rejection she got over the years and she's got to learn to let it go, but it's so ingrained in her I don't think it's possible.

>>23256870
>who are even her antis

Holofans

>>23256870
I don't hate her, but the lean and cuckbeat edits were funny.

>>23263025
So I can talk about trash taste content all I want in there, right?

>>23263887
>honestly this, i hate mori but i don't really want her to graduate because it would make ame sad and would permanently fuck up myth
??
Ame is probably the one that has the least interaction with Mori. Honestly, the only one that you could claim to be impacted is Gura, as she's the one girl in Myth who's currently orbiting Mori (because she fat, heh) the most. Ina is meh, and Kiara had been only cordial in her recent interactions but clearly seems pretty done with her on an emotional level (which is better for both of them, as there's no point getting invested in someone who doesn't give a shit).

>>23256870
>tried to act cool and own her twitter antis
>ended up showing she is thin skinned
>makes a fuss on twitter and reddit
>everyone makes fun of the situation
>/vt/ gets blamed because they also made fun of her
>starts taunting /vt/ on her streams
why is she so hated here?

>>23275254
I know. That's what makes it so sad and frustrating. It's like watching an addict try to change. They've got the world in front of them but you know they're going to fuck it up at the slightest change in temperature.

Because she hated her fans. If you're too stupid to see that then keep on keeping on.

>>23256870
Mainly don't like her for the Trash Taste stuff. The first collab was fine but the twitch donos and stuff are just naah bruh. Should've kept Cali away from TT and just maintain TT+DD. Would've been much better.

>>23260155
Lui and IRyS would tolerate anyone. their too nice for their own good, Suisex doesn't understand 70% of the shit that comes out of Mori's mouth.

>>23256870
Her antis are dedicated enough to make a disstrack on her at least

>>23275042
>She's on the path to redemption
[x] Doubt.
We've been here before - after her first disastrous months came to a head (Gura Cuphead, Gigguk collab, general lack of enthusiasm and preparedness for Hololive, etc.) she had her first run at a redemption arc and "aw geez I really fucked up, better shape up and improve!" and there were a few months where she went without a major fuckup and things were looking up, so deadcucks were quick to exclaim she turned around and "Mori two point oh" everything's going to be great from here on out.
Well, that didn't last long, and she had her whole extended Connor/Cuckbeat/Lean menhera meltdown arc again, after which she tried to overcompensate again (spamming collabs, "with my FRIENDS!" etc), so anyone with an ounce of pattern-recognition ability knows better to trust her one bit and knows the next pendulum swing is only a matter of time anyway

>>23262322
her face looks like one.

>>23275254
>>23276141
Hey, if Kiara had a decent enough redemption arc, then so can Mori

I don't hate her, but I honestly probably will like a group collab less if she's in it. I'm not an anti, wouldn't send hate to her or anything but her demeanor just makes me cringe and feel uncomfortable and her music is embarrassing to me. I listen to hip hop regularly but in my opinion her stuff is just very very not good.

I will say I didn't mind her in the smol 3d collabs I saw.

Fluent english = deserves hate
simple as

>>23276141
>>23276198
kiara's redemption arc included stop being close to mori

>>23276208
She's hip-hop for weebs who don't actually like real hip-hop. It's not even doujin-level quality of independent music, but it's got the Hololive branding.

>>23276208
Trust me, blaring Mori's music in the projects is a death wish

>>23276404
>makes hip-hop for people who don't like hip-hop
>hangs out with anime tubers for people who don't like anime
>becomes the face of hololive for people who don't like hololive
She really is the perfect combination

>>23256870
Just did my reps, LMFAO deadbraps literally how do you recover from this?

>>23276141
>after which she tried to overcompensate again (spamming collabs, "with my FRIENDS!" etc)
It's so fucking transparent kek

>>23276523
Holy shit, anon. You are ruthless.

>>23256870
>who are even her antis?
deadbeats coping with their cuckolding fetish.

Don't hate her, but these threads are hilarious. Hope there's one everyday

She let vshojo make their way through hololive which is based, you know maybe mori isn’t that bas

>>23256870
Waifufags hate her for acknowledging men and supporting Stars.
Twitter hates her cause they wanna segregate rap to blacks only.
1 and 2views hate her cause they can't accept this line of works comes with actual effort.

>>23267517
Who actually respects Hololive culture?

>>23257081
>niggers
>not the racistest race there is

>>23258727
>she's done nothing wrong ever and everything is just Antis shitposting for (You's)
>people who criticize Mori to Chinks and saying this just like Coco
This is unironically true though.

>>23262132
1

I hope she uses less bad words

>>23262322
Yes.

>>23276141
>Gura Cuphead
Checking back on that it seems that was caused by technical problems on Gura's side.

>>23275833
being the only holo to be downvoted on reddit is funny

>>23256870
hello mori, hope you use that 2 boxes of condoms i sent.

>>23275833
>starts taunting /vt/ on her streams
she's talking to me and only me

>>23257081
>niggers and jews
Yes, racists.

>>23256870
i dont hate her, but i also noticed shes certainly a collab destroyer. she should only do solo streams. especially her collabs with jp members are actually really fucking cringy and insufferable. i cant stand it. she should stick to holo en except for some big fest collabs. her japanese is also garbage.

>>23283512
no it's caused by mori being a retard and not listening to people telling her the ping would be too high to make it work

The only way this ends well is if HoloJP/EN brings on a good rapper as talent and Mori btfo, then collab and les out for minimum 3 months.

>>23285070
yes, this was on her own lack of proper preparation, not Gura as the guest, and it even led to a karmic moment as Mori gloated for a bit when it looked like it would work out "See chat, you all doubted me, but it's gonna be fiiiiiine!" and only a few minutes later crashing down "oh shit oh fuck oh shit...." kek

>>23285059
Her 3D collabs with EN are cringe af too.

>>23276016
I legitimately think that if c*nner somehow gets outed as a groomer of underage viewers like most big twitch streamers get hit by nowadays. Mori will actually improve. The world will start healing

>>23285059
Seeing a white woman speak Japanese is like seeing a dog walk on two legs. You don't question whether it's done well, you just let yourself be amazed that it's being done at all.

>>23256870
>who are even her antis
Teakeks and chumpedos

>>23285578
Why? It is not like these last few days have proved that it always comes down top hat.

>>23256870
anyone who has to listen to her shit up a collab with their oshi

>>23257161
>I bet karen is in these threads sometimes
Thats why there are so many, and also why she gets butthurt and posts dumb shit to twitter.

I love how every Mori hate thread has active comments going on to how bad of a person she really is. Keep up the hate bros, this bitch deserves each and every bit of it. I know she is here too and maybe in the long run she might learn from her mistakes or probably kill herself. Nothing lost nothing gained so I say keep it going

>>23289518
go back to your split deadbeat

>>23289648
I am not a cuckbeat.

>>23289518
>I know she is here too
Is that why people keep spamming these threads?

I'm just kicking whoever falls down
I unironically don't watch vtubers and just shitpost here

>>23257025
>muh racists
opinion invalid

>>23256870
Been a Mori anti since around Nov/Dec. 2020. Her music sucks and she's doing this as a stepping stone. She is entitled, doesn't care about the culture, and still sucks at Japanese. The UMG deal proves she is looking to bolt when her contract is up, possibly earlier. I said last year she'd be graduating before summer ends this year and I think I'm on track to be right.

>>23257452
Whoever he is, he's right about everything.

>>23283285
Chinks exist.

>>23260186
>when it comes out they have boyfriends or husbands
Already happened for Mori.

>>23290829
Are you the fabled prophetanon?

I don't have anything against her
but can we stop pretending the music is good

>>23260607
BASED BASED BASED

>>23276523
Damn, this sums it up. She's the vtuber for people that don't like vtubers.
/thread

>>23291044
No, not me but that anon is right. I'm surprised Cover let her sign that deal in the first place. I promise you they already rewrote their contracts to prevent that shit from happening in the future.