/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23105071
Perception is reality. All it takes is PC being carried by momentum and then they secure their place above the other small corpos.

>>23105071
while the fishman doesn't do an amazing job running pc he's still well above the retards in charge of the other companies

Look at her.
There is nothing in the world more perfect than she is.
Of course any company she signs to will be successful, it's exactly what the gods want.

pippa

Pippa is the poster child and she filters cancel culture faggots instantly, rendering the company immune to yabs

>>23106222
Pippa is eventual implosion is going to be the most predictable thing that happens on this board. Remember this posting 6 months.

If phase indeed goes up in the world I really hope Fishman allocates more resources in promoting the JP girls. Nasa deserves it.

>>23105071
>than the other small corpos?
PRISM is doing better
Kawaii is doing better
Phase just makes more noise around itself, which is both bad and good

PhaseConnect feels like I'm watching somebody build a massive skyscraper on a foundation of sand

>>23106222
Then why didn't the Fishman let her collab with Rekieta and Metokur? SAD

>>23105071
>much more successful
That's a bit of an overstatement. They're doing alright, but they're still not even close to the amount of income they would need to cover all their expenses.

>>23107862
>why didn't fishman let his biggest vtuber collab with some random shitty fruit e-celebs
are you retarded?

>>23105071
They are running on empty, revenue is negative compared to how much they have spent. Pitching your entire business model relying on 4chan is a retarded idea

>>23106317
Prism was the top when their gen 3 debuted, now Pippa and Tenma get higher CCV than all of Prism combined. Kawaii is getting carried entirely by Nene. Shit's too shaky in the small corpo scene anyways; a few months ago Phase was the one struggling, and everyone thought they had no idea what the hell they were doing.

Sakana's a sexpest groomer. He's way too close to the girls and it's just a matter of time before he gets caught.

In the end the small corpo scene's just gonna implode while indies are doing better and better.

>>23105071
Arguably for the same reason Holo won over Niji despite Niji being older.
>Not lead by a Zoomer
>not debuting mixed gens
>not debuting gens before the previous gens had grown strong viewerships
>not lead by a dropout/crypto bro
>not making talents work as unpaid contractors
>not making your talents pay for everything
It's actually fascinating how much in this space is defined by not making elementary mistakes.

>>23108238
Fish said in January they had enough income to invest back into talents. And that was before Pippa became 3view.

>successful
LMAOLMAOLMAO

>>23108342
Holo won over Niji because they were the first of the two to make a serious attempt at the EN market, at that point basically everything else became irrelevant.

>>23106276
I've seen this exact post 6 months ago.

>>23105071
Their CEO having experience successfully building and running a business probably helps.

>>23108238
>company that runs entirely on the creative engine of /vt/ is inclining harder than ever
>"safe" reddit/twittertard corps imploding like a breached submarine
Looks fine to me

>>23109638
>EN market
They won long before Myth.

>>23108238
>Pitching your entire business model relying on 4chan is a retarded idea
Why does the 4chan pandering always get blown so out of proportion?
People must be really disappointed when they finally check out Pippa and instead of Kiki 2.0 they get a pink rabbit with a slightly edgy humor that spent too much time on the internet as a kid.

>>23110092
hating /here/tubers has become a virtue signal

It’s crazy but understandable how small corpos can just end of unspooling in under a week.

>>23110092
>Why does the 4chan pandering always get blown so out of proportion?
Anons are severely autistic and must destroy anything remotely resembling a mirror, despite the object of their ire not being one in the slightest.

>>23110092
Not to mention that Tenma thinks 4chan is retarded and Lia only uses it for Egosa (and shuts down anyone trying to containment break in her chat immediately).
Saying that Phase is built on 4chan is like saying Hololive is built on Suisei's Tetris skills.
Not *wrong* but idiotic to the nth degree all the same because it makes such an infinitesimally tiny amount of things only threadreaders of the highest order would believe otherwise.
>>23110175
>>23110201
This. Hell people STILL don't have a working definition of what being /here/ entails. It ranges from "Knows what 4chan is" (which you cannot not know unless you are literally never linked on 4chan since it shows up in Analytics)" to "Holds thread Q&As".

>>23110384
On a semi-related note, if I hadn't been linked by an old pal back in 2014 I may have actually forgotten about the site. I'm pretty sure I at least knew the name, but in all these years I've never actually gotten a recommendation for a video that deal with 4chan or has that in the name. Kind of weird now that I think about it. Even IRL friends have never mentioned it.

>>23110384
Even if pippa's the only one that actually interacts with the site, /pcg/ produces all the major fanworks considering reNPC is an anon, is the vast majority of the regular audience for most streams combine that with /clg/ now, and drives a lot of stream ideas either from pippa reading the thread and bringing them back to company meetings or flexing their numbers on polls. I miss the pre-gamergate times when 4chan Q&As were semi-common too, maybe when cyberlive and tsunderia are officially out of business they'll feel more secure to interact with their fans where they are instead of making them come to discord

>>23106327
So the Saudis then?

>>23111722
>vast majority
We can't really say for sure due to yt viewcount but that's definitely not accurate. I'd give us 30-40% at most.

>>23110384
>Tenma thinks 4chan is retarded
I mean she's not wrong, but why do I feel so sad?
Tenma please don't cast us out...

>>23113177
begone degenerate!

>>23113177
blame the schizo that sent her the retarded marshmallow because she "betrayed" a site she never interacted with by streaming on twitch, now I can't even ask what color panties she prefers in fanart

>>23113237
I'm so sad...

>>23113299
Fucking schizos man. Need to be fucking euthanized

>>23113299
People that oshi YouTube need to be killed painfully.

>>23110384
/here/ chuuba is one that uses this site, a ton do that
One that panders to us on the other hand is nearly always someone you want to avoid, be it because they will drop their old audience the second they can or because they are the most obnoxious containment breakers

>>23106276
>>23109770
this is the same board that 'predicts' Mori's graduation every 6 months

>>23111722
>is the vast majority of the regular audience for most streams
There is no way that this is true, even the 30-40% of the other guy seem too high.
I don't think 4chan owns artist just because they post on here, just like things her chat recommends don't magically come from 4chan, because you think they also visit /vt/ also most of the random shit Pippa streams is clearly stuff she came up with herself..

>>23113610
>panders
Where does "knows that 4chan exists" end and "pandering" start? I have no idea what would change with Pippa's content if she were to never mention 4chan ever again, except the streams where she visits the /vt/ minecraft server.

>>23114376
>if she were to never mention 4chan ever again
I would unironically kill myself

>>23113237
Tenma is a harsh but extremely fair mistress. It's for the best.

>>23114376
I personally don't mind the idea of a vtuber having a two way relationship with the board, but from what I've seen, any direct interaction with the /vt/ gets called pandering. I think a lot of newer post-2016 posters are hung up on the idea of this site being a sekrit club even though other boards have "broke containment" and openly participated in their relevant topic's events for years

>>23114376
If Pippa stopped quoting 4chan memes and inside jokes, the subset of her audience that is only really there for that aspect of her streams would obviously lose interest over time. What percentage they are is unknown, probably not that many in the grand scheme of things, but she definitely does market herself in a way that appeals to the younger, edgier, newfag members of this website, regardless if she breaks containment or not. She's not the boogeyman a lot of people here make her out to be, nor does she crawl on the ground bending to the whims of the board, the truth is always somewhere in the middle. But i think everyone can agree that she comes off as a stereotypical channer more than she does a normie.

>>23113950
"Mori will graduate before/after Fes" Has been Qanon level hysterics.

>>23115984
> But i think everyone can agree that she comes off as a stereotypical channer more than she does a normie.
All the good Vtubers do. Even Reine.

>>23116193
they've been scaling it up lately, we're almost at a new "this time for sure" every month now

>>23105252
Redpill me on blue bears

>>23116278
>unironic "just two more weeks" posting
it's like I'm on /pol/

>>23116568
Musically gifted sheltered dorky tomboy with a sexy deep voice and the the highest pitched moans you'll hear in your entire life

>>23115984
>everyone can agree that she comes off as a stereotypical channer more than she does a normie
Yeah, definitely. I'm just surprised that certain people in here treat it as a major crime that she doesn't aggressively hide the fact that she spent a lot of time on image boards.
Pretty much all of the stuff she uses has reached normalfag circles long ago anyways. Stuff like "glowies" and the like is not some super deep lore from the dark web.

>>23116836
You forgot such a massive scardely cat her Portal playthrough is still unbelievably hilarious because she kept freaking out about it.
>>23116774
Did you mean to quote >>23116480
>>23116193>>23113950?

>>23113177
>I mean she's not wrong, but why do I feel so sad?
I mean "don't break containment" has always been a rule. She's really only being consistent with what people /here/ claim to be the law above all other laws.

>>23118007
Oh shoot, my bad, anon. Guess I misclicked

>>23113177
for a while, acting like your average 4chan user outside the boards was seen as being a complete sperg and was discouraged, these days people will go out of their way to show off how much of an ebin 4channer they are and break containment in as many places as they can, dumbasses aren't even using dogwhistles anymore, they're using regular whistles anyone can hear.
So of course she's going to think the users here are retarded since that's the kind of user that will go out of their way to flaunt using 4chan.

Pippa propably never spent a day on /a/ or /jp/. She's self-admitted /mlp/ and most likely /v/tard. In fact, she's more kiwi than here.

>>23105071
The answer is that Phase Connect is not that successful. It's not dogshit but I don't understand how many on this board can see this company as being above much more successful than some of its competitor (which others have mentionned).

>>23105071
Maybe in EN space.
In JP space Neo-Porte in a month is twice as big as PC and it doesn't even have its own general here.

>>23120446
Among the small EN companies, phase is looking like the only one that's going to exist this time next year. Niji/Holo aren't their competitors in any realistic sense

>>23105071
because it's one of the few indie startups run by someone who actually has experience running a company and isn't set up by fresh college grads with 50k and a dream

>>23120446
anon, did you see Cyberlive and Tsunderia imploding these last couple months? When people say phase connect is successful, they don't mean "realistic competitor to holo/niji", they mean "actually provides a service to their talents and isn't likely to collapse in the next six months", because that's the standard for success in the small company sphere these days

>>23113950
>every 6 months
you mean every fortnight, right?

The real reason is that it has a lot of money backing it. It's been admitted that Phase is constantly hemorrhaging cash despite performing much better than companies that report a profit. They can just afford far more than the other corporations in maintain infrastructures, buying merchandise and advertising

This board doesn't know anything about basic business at all holy shit

>>23124202
anon Phase connect has been active for almost 2 years now, if they've been losing money all these two years they would be on the verge of bankruptcy by now

>>23105071
Who?

>>23124329
shalom

>>23124329
>Idol inclining
Mashallah brothers!

>>23124295
Anon you are entirely too uneducated to be talking business even on the most basic level. You have fundamental misunderstandings about how money works on adult scales. The average start up takes about 4 years to turn a profit.

The major difference between Phase and everyone else has always been the sheer amount of cash they're working with over other companies. They are in effect capable of indirectly purchasing CCV. Most other explanations are just people seeing the company is doing well then hand waving it with arbitrary explanations no one can observe instead of actually paying attention to what they do

>>23124129
This seems to be a very limited definition of what "successful" is, and a low bar to reach.

>>23106222
>>23110092
>>23115984
Problem with Pippa is she's stuck. Considering her yabs she'll never get into Niji/Holo. Which is fine if she wants to stay indie/PC, but who knows how long PC will last, the EN small corpos have been falling apart recently.

>>23121323
>>23124129
Isn't Production Kawaii and Prism the gold standard for EN 2views? It's based in Japan but I imagine this is their main competition.

>>23125359
The Problem with Niji/Holo is they're stuck. Considering their behavior they'll never be able to successfully run for office. Which is fine if they want to stay vtubers, but who knows how long that will last, trends have been falling apart recently.

>>23125359
>the EN small corpos have been falling apart recently
They seem to have lofty management and utterly abysmal direction. I’m really not even surprised that wildfires are spreading in their territories because they don’t even take the time to tend to the brush. Any surviving companies should be watching and making sure to keep their houses in order.

>>23124202
>It's been admitted that Phase is constantly hemorrhaging cash
The only thing they ever publicly said about their finances is that they're already breaking even a couple of months ago. They've grown a lot since then. Where do people get this retarded line from?

>>23124329
good goy. 2 shekels have been deposited to your account

Does phase have any plans for future JP talents? I think it would weird if they introduce gen 2 and it's just 6 more English speakers.

>>23125555
This line is probably coming from Sakana himself, who admitted (for whatever reason) that the company was in the red sometime last year. Some people didn't follow the breaking even update.

>>23105071
Asian CEO.

>>23105071
Only small corpo CEO that isn't completely retarded

>>23125487
> Considering their behavior they'll never be able to successfully run for office
Reine could due to her family and money, like it would probably be trivially easy for her to become a representative for whatever passes as the lower chamber of congress over there.

Suisei (forma de Griffith) has the raw charisma and determination to suck fuck and murder her way to the top of any position. Fortunately for us she’s autistic and made being a virtual idol her life aspiration.

>>23125735
I’m curious about this, too, although I personally wouldn’t mind.

>>23125487
Vox could probably be the UK diplomat for Chinese relationships at this point.

>>23105071
they are not, they are at like 3rd place right now, no matter how much 4chan likes phase connect the numbers do not lie and both prism and kawaii are ahead of phase right now

>>23125738
>who admitted
No he didn't. Post a link or kill yourself.

>>23126806
Phase Connect started operations last year: that's when Sakana stated they were in the red. Are you seriously so retarded that you'd think a new company like that was never in the red?
I'm not wasting my fucking time fishing the link for you tourist.

>>23125868
I don't know who cyberlive's CEO is but Prism, kawaii and Tsunderia also have Asian CEOs.
All of them including Kevin look like dorks besides the kawaii guy

because their talents are actually good and unique and not conveyor belt trash

>>23105071
Good business sense by sakana and him giving the talents old pre 2020 hololive levels of free rein regarding content they can produce for they're Vtuber channels

>>23105071
It's just recency bias like >>23105097
pointed out already. Phase has more representation (or gossip, if you prefer) here on 4chan mostly due to recent events, but I'd argue PRISM is probably as big or bigger in terms of fanbase size and resources - 4 gens with 12 talents total.

>>23110021
wait, /vt/ is the creative engine of hololive?
so i DO have influence on my oshi??

People are forgetting PC is being compared to other small corpos with multiple gens while only having 1 gen for itself. Just wait til gen2 comes out

>>23126806
I think it was a company talk stream with the Tsunderia manager VTuber

>>23126731
>prism
Araka seems to get between 100-200 ccv
Shiki and Yura are also around that level, though slightly lower on average.
And Iku rarely goes about 70 ccv.

>kawaii
Nene is beweteen 100-200 ccv
Reina hovers around a 100 ccv
Isla is slightly below 100 ccv

>the numbers do not lie
The numbers say that the biggest streamers of Prism and Kawaii are doing worse than Tenma and Lumi who in turn have around half the ccv of Pippa.

>>23127650
Technically Phase is now the 2nd biggest in terms of number of members.
>prism has 12
>Phase has 9
>kawaii has 8
>Cyberlive has 8 (7 if you don't count Vera)
>tsunderia has 7

>>23127947
>Phase will be at 15 member with gen 2
Is this the power of 0 graduations?

>>23110090
By pandering to EOPs

>>23126731
In terms of 3views, Phase is on top for sure
>Prism
Luto, Shiki (sometimes). Their entire gen 4 is a flop
>Kawaii
Nene, Reina (sometimes)
>Phase Connect
Pippa, Tenma, Lumi, and Yuri are all consistently 200 CCV+, with Pippa getting into the 500's. Uruka and Lia are in the 100 range. There's no argument here. The Fish knows what he's doing.

>>23127468
well, not (You)

Y'all talking about those small corpos will become the next big agency while you're boasting about 100+ ccv in the EN market.

This agency operates in ID with the average of 200-300 ccv and their highest numbers occasionally in thousands.
They can succeed in ID where big corpo like Nijisanji failed, it can be attributed to their competent management.
They have a JP branch, although not doing good, but it still doesn't change the fact that the management is very competent, considering that none of their main talents graduated and no one is complaining about the management.

I'd say you should remember this agency, because the moment they decided to expand to EN it would be a game changer.

>>23107862
because of drunken ragepig hollering

>>23130734
Why are indogs always this cocky?

>>23130734
How much of their talent base uses English to converse? I’m asking the general percentage of overall exchanges, not specific name attributions.

>>23131323
Because they practically have nothing else to be proud of.

>>23130734
You've been saying this about MyHolo too and they just had another 3 people GTFO.

>>23105071
unironically singlehandedly because of pippa

>>23136677
While the rabbit currently gets the most live viewers, all the other girls have grown.
Lumi and Yuri getting poached also brought a wave of growth for everyone, even driving some views to the JP talent.

The fishman is proving all those early disaster predictions wrong, like the company would fold in 6 months or mass graduations.

>set eyes on retard corpo
>so retarded they let talents leave with their audience and channels, expensive Live2D and 3D models included
>make pippa groom their /here/ chuubas
>they come to your corpo for free because of the "friendship"
>0 dollars spent
>profit

>>23137470
>some
They have actual views now because Yuri & Lumi have a shocking amount of JOP viewers. JP branch is where EN was 5 months ago but views tend to bring views so they might unironically be salvageable now.

>>23133311
MyHolo is malay agency and malaysia as a country is a flop

But will Fish get the two rising stars?

>>23139583
Are either even welcome to the idea?

4chan's influence on PC is overexaggerated. Youtube, Twitch, Discord, and Twitter have way more influence on PC. I think the only sites to have less influence on PC than /here/ is reddit and the farms. Regardless, PC is way more entwined with /here/ than any other small or large corpo. They often act differently from the loudest threadspammers' opinions but there have been points where feedback on /pcg/ and hex have influenced behavior and policies. They are very forward-facing about this stuff. The avoidance-complexes other companies have aren't there.
>>23137816
>0 dollars spent
Neonbeat
>>23137820
I was shocked to see Michiru pulling 100-150CCV the week Lumi joined PC. It might have reduced for now but the twitch bump is substantial - despite what anons say about twitch.

>>23105252
shes really promising. just hope she dont sell out

>>23105071
Pippa got that Roblox tuber clout and ran with the momentum

I'm going to become macho for Tenma

>>23137816
Fishman offered Yuri a contract to convince Lumi to join, both get Gen 1 contracts with full salary, fully paid for avatar/rigging upgrades and 3d model upgrades.
Also they get to keep their character copyright but have a noncompete if they leave after the contract is up, meaning they can't join another corpo for some time.

Allegedly fishman gave them both sweetheart contracts because he sees huge prospects in Lumi.

>>23137816
>>0 dollars spent
Neonbeat model and - most likely - full banrolling of Lumi's orisongs.
Also salaries.

>>23139957
>Are either even welcome to the idea?
Well Nina failed either her Niji or her Holo application. So who knows.
>>23141842
>because he sees huge prospects in Lumi.
Considering he managed to get Pippa to effectively triple the effort she puts into her streams to the point of doing streams twice a day and doing Spaces whenever there are tech SNAFUs... I can see why.

>>23141842
He’s not wrong to see the potential, if true. Lumi has the exact kind of attitude necessary to push for a climb; I’m guessing having to be the manager for CyberLive stymied this so much that she had no other options than to look without.

Even Nasa pulls stable 50ccv now. Unless the company grows faster that they can manage with gen2, they will be fine.

>>23141707
I doubt she will. A huge part of her appeal is how connected she is to the community.
It's honestly a bit of a detriment at times when she spends more time talking to chat than playing games. But if you're into that constant back and forth with a streamer she's great.
She's also super active in Discord so if you're not apposed to using that, there's a huge chance you'll be able to talk to her on her community discord. It's pretty swell

>>23110092
Here's the golden rule

Kiki = 4chan
Pippa = Kiwi Farms
Beatani = r/4chan

>>23148613
Uruka did softcore discord text ERP last night and even got cursed because of it. Bear is horby.

>>23154577
>Uruka did softcore discord text ERP last night
Wait wait wait
Small corpo talents will have discord sex with the fans? Why did nobody tell me about this?

>>23155139
Just the whores

>>23151735
kiki is only representative of one part of 4chan. I'd say she's more representative of /vt/

>>23155772
True. vt, an, vr even

>>23155826
i dunno if /vr/ is about drinking piss, sniffing sweat, worshipping an anime woman to the point of insanity and not showering

>>23155925
t. never watched kiki

>>23155966
i have, just saying not all of 4chan would seriously invest their feelings in a parasocial relationship like /vt/ would.

>>23156015
You can watch her and not be parasocial, shes said that. also /vr/ (if you didn't know you don't seem to know a lot honestly) is retro games, which she plays and has a lot of knowledge in.
don't want to derail the thread any further, I stand by what I said

>>23156100
lmfao assuming anyone doesn't know what /vr/ is is peak newfag

>>23156213
No im assuming you're a "peak newfag"

>>23156256
kill yourself fag

>>23156283
oh ok sorry yeah you really seem like le epic 4channer now!

>>23156340
go back to your hugbox thread

>>23156431
kek

>Kiki is mentioned
>thread derails
Every time.

>>23156528
The thread was on pg10 already anon. no ones here

>>23156528
Be the change you want to see!

>>23155139
She just did a twitter space about how notHorny she is again that ended 10 minutes ago. Its archived on PCcord. Also Iori's deer sex cult.

Lia also held a meet an greet in VC with no mods inside the private chat and only 1 mod(female indie chuba) in the waiting room.

>>23156528
It's probably the best when champyons stopped claiming represents /vt/. This place has room for different types of viewers and different types of vtubers and to audaciously claim she represents all of them is laughable.

It's like Vshojo doesn't exist.

>>23157542
Better then saying pippa does imp

>>23156100
stop defending yourself in threads kiki, it's sad to see.

>>23157689
Shes working right now I think

>>23155772
*/soc/

>>23157655
I don't like Pippa either but no, it's not better than saying Pippa. She represents a wider range of schizos here and is more liked in this shithole.

>>23157800
r9k and soc*

>>23157801
nta but I think pippa is just better known due to her leeching

>>23157270
thought she was better than that, what a shame.

>>23157842
https://archived.moe/soc/search/text/bunke/
never forget

>>23158024
Romeo...

>>23141563
>It might have reduced for now but the twitch bump is substantial - despite what anons say about twitch.
Susan has a habit of showing around half the viewers you actually have on youtube for some strange reason.

>>23127702
That was the one where he said he was breaking even.

>>23126962
Kill yourself, lying piece of shit.

>>23157848
Funny when the same people showed up in Kiki's chat she btfod them

>>23157848
>due
It doesn't matter what's the reason. All I know she's better known here and doesn't shit up any thread other than /pcg/. At least she knows how to stay in her own lane.

>>23158553
I dont think either has shit up other threads. but beleeb what you want. ill stop going offtopic

>>23158454
That guy has been lining some decent collabs (like the Blizzard dev) up for her.
Has pretty much redeemed him for me. That's also another point towards Pippa not pandering, since all the screeching about that guy in /pcg/ didn't get her to bow down and signal obedience like Kiki immediately did.

>>23158378
i think it's cuz of adblock

The thing PC is good at is giving their livers true independence while also not imposing stupid restrictions or taking huge cuts out of their earnings.
They're all very different as well so there's something for everyone.
I guess it helps that ALL the drama revolves around Pippa and everyone else is completely untouched so fishman focuses 90% of his time keeping that retard on a leash.

>>23158024
lol

>>23158615
What about this thread?

>>23159173
Hmm, this makes me think we're going to get some drama soon from one of the other talents. No one is keeping an eye on them, especially the jp girls.

>>23109770
pippa's viewership has more than quadrupled since then by the way

Cover let vshojo in eith hololive so anything can happen at this point

>>23105071
>will they become the new rising force
Not with Pippa at the helm

>>23141842
>all this to woo Lumi
Honestly Yuri is really fun too, just like Tenma and Pippa were kind of a package Lumi and Yuri are a great deal and I actually like Yuri more. She's got fucking energy for days

>>23159515
michiru seems content playing valorent, DBD and food posting on twitter while PC looks like a hobby for nasa. I don't watch Iori very often but she doesn't seem like the type to cause drama from what I've seen

>>23106317
I think Prism should change its name, it starts with P and is way too similar in length to Phase. Its just too confusing.

>>23163653
they did, you can call them tesseract project

>>23126234
Comparing Suityan to Griffith sits totally fine with me.

>>23160921
>Pippa
Kek

>>23141842
>>23159173
>full salary
>no huge earning cuts
What classifies as huge cuts? How are they making money and giving salaries if they’re not taking a big cut? This isn’t adding up to me but I’m also a dumbass.

>>23105071
Actual variety. Games are a bit hit and miss sure as seen with Pippa and Roblox, but you aren't getting the HoloEN experience of everyone doing Elden Ring at the same time or mass overlaps like NijiEN; in which 7 names are live at the same time followed by a four plus hour gap of nothing. Assuming PC poaches the Boomer spider and League of Legends lover Lisa, they'll cover even more ground going forward.

>>23169768
Not having a huge staff helps. Both Nijisanji and Holovive have absolutely gigantic staff that just sit on their asses collecting paychecks.
People always speak of Vtuber CEOs in these awed respectful tones, but as someone who knows a vast variety of wagies; It's not actually that impressive.
Things that cost more than the rigging & art for a 9 person Vtuber company:
-A single stage light
-A griddle for a 5 worker burger place
-Furnishings for a middle of the road adult classroom
-A tiny truck for moving equipment
-A single professional DJ deck
You take out a 10k loan (something anyone with even a smidgen of credit history can do) and get your shit drawn and rigged. Voila. You have a company.

>>23171588
Hmm, wouldn't even need the loan, tempting

>>23159515
most vtuber "drama" is faggots pretending to take offense at literally nothing hoping they can force a graduation, so less attention means less chance of a happening counterintuitively

>>23174613
Bear in mind that the reason why you see all these small startups collapsing left and right is precisely because a whole bunch of people with no management or corporate experience took out loans to start a vtuber company

>>23176821
I actually do have a decent amount of management under the belt, even applied for a few openings just for giggles but the current mixed manager/talent meme in EN companies has me gated for the time being

>>23177103
>but the current mixed manager/talent meme
That is only a thing in Cyberlive (presumably because they want yuribucks and then because they were cheap retards who made a talent become management which then triggered a reckoning though they now finally have a competent one) and previously Tsunderia (one of them). The managers of Prism, Phase, Kawaii (IIRC) HoloEN & NijiEN don't stream. Well the manager of NijiEN used to but that's a wholly different story.
> I actually do have a decent amount of management under the belt
How decent? Because unironically anything above 8 years puts you into the 99th percentile of vtuber managers.
Did you do anything media-related?
Because honestly, if you've done something like this you should go for a vtuber management career. Just so there's less out of touch retards messing things up. I think Phase is still looking for one and so is Nijisanji.
>>23159173
>while also not imposing stupid restrictions
I think that is what makes them unique. They do have very few restrictions but they still don't resort to coomer bullshit. Usually it's either ironfisted or sex jokes all day with EN corpos & indies.

>>23178789
Even the ones that don't stream promote them as a public facing personality, they even gave muumi a model to debut with gen 2 I assume. And not media related but wrangling big groups of people carries across industries I'd imagine, just waiting for the next phase opening since the other EN companies are one bad week from going out of business and hololive only wants bilinguals that live in japan