/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23080653
I'm always taking so long to respond...

I haven't been working in the industry since like 2014, and even for that time i've been always kinda old-fashioned. Photoshop has been first and foremost a photo editing program, but it's since then grown to be able to sort of everything. It's not perfect for the job, but for small scale like a chuuba making his silly graphics for his silly streams it's perfectly adequate.

Figma looks to be pretty neat if you have a team because adobe's ecosystem is honestly pretty shit and always has been. At least i have never even seen anyone open bridge ever. I think for a single person it is probably a little overkill in terms of conceptualization / brainstorming features. It's really good when you have ultra minimalized workflow to be able to go through many iterations of your design with many people or even by yourself. Depending on your proficiency with photoshop you can probably get pretty fast too. I managed to whip up the schedule from scratch within a 2 hour stream and i think that's a decent time, especially since i'm a little rusty. (and this is a minimalistic version from what i'm planning to use in the future once my model changes) For people just getting into this stuff i'd probably also recommend getting into new tools i will probably die with a badly magic wand'ed "RIP" cropped onto my gravestone and a pirated copy of CS3 in my cold dead hands. (I've recently switched to PS2020 though)

Okay i'll go to bed now, be nice /asp/.

>>23081917
cute and funny?

>>23082128
Oyasumi Kaiser-kun

>>23072864
Your girl is one follow away from her goal, but just had a power surge. You think she's gonna make it?

>>23082490
There you go, wanted to do something good for today

Babis run this fucking thread!

>>23082184
Adorable and humorous.

>>23082840
We do indeed

>>23082184
uooooohhhhhhh

>>23082809
Your a good one. We can all make it if we work like this.

What is a good facial expression for a cyborg alien maid?
And How many cables?

>>23083780
Are you a babi.

>>23083780
Fuck off babi

>>23083815
>>23083844
samefag

Is there any specific protocol for react type content?
It just seems so questionable to restream someone else's content. I don't feel so bad about, say, meme compilations, but then I see Veibae watching food channels and are you supposed to ask for permission (even as a 2 view) or does twitch literally not care?
I'm sure the hard limit comes from actual copyrighted shows/movies, but I'm not sure about educational or creative youtube channels.

>>23083882
I'm only the first one. I don't have 4chan pass; I couldn't have posted that quickly

>>23083950
That’s some hivemibd level shit

>>23083996
Not really.

>>23083898
>Is there any specific protocol for react type content?
Nope

>are you supposed to ask for permission
Nope, Twitch and most channels don't seem to really care. A few have even acknowledged it as a joke. Make a playlist of videos you enjoy, throw em on and drop some commentary and jokes over it and maybe discuss a bit with your chat. Rarely if ever does any channel come forward to strike creators big or small. I can't say I've heard of it happening.

Imagining Miyo cosplaying her favorite /asp/ie(s)

how do I do GFE/BFE as a troon that has never dated

Reupping this from a few threads ago
https://poal.me/hslr7i

>>23084505
Best way to learn is by watching others, no one here has had enough success to tell you how so watch what others do and learn from them.

>>23084474
Miyo is cute! Cute!

>>23084505
>First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.
Considering no one has wanted you so far, I doubt you can build content around that.

>>23083780
Mischievous smile with shaded face and empty eyes
No cables because you’re wireless.

>>23084505
Date me, cutie.

>>23084803
holy shit my sides

>>23084803
>First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience
I never found this part particularly useful because the assumption is that you're new so obviously your skill and experience are going to be low, it's really just the last part that's applicable.

>>23085036
Are you seriously recommending that a mentally ill single person try their hand at BFE or GFE.

>>23085192
not that anon, but sure why not, it will be an spectacle either way.

>>23085255
/asp/! /asp/, everybody

What makes a male voice cute and potentially effeminate?
Soft, mid range? Or in opposite terms, not loud and nearly shouty like a lot of “gamer” voices?

>>23085255
The way to lolfow.farm is the other way.

>>23085192
Do you seriously think they'll take your advice and not do it?

>>23085314
https://www.youtube.com/c/ShotoYT

>>23084521
>tfw I am past "college aged"
>"older women" are now my age
IT'S ALL SO HORRIBLE

>>23085314
They can both be effeminate. Believe it or not, feminine people can still raise their voices.

>>23085581
why? this shit rules from where I'm standing. being an adult beats the absolute shit out of being a kid. my brain works correctly now

>>23085659
because women don't age as men, they can't have children without risking they being retarded, they get menopause and all other sorts of shit. There's a reason why people say women age like milk.

>>23053180
just wanna further support this with my stream data today. most of my streams have a similar curve

>>23085447
I want to get that kind of confidence in the next year…be cute but cool and get rid of mush mouth

>>23084505
>Troon
Don't. On a serious note. I'm not trans but effeminate, so gay guys and gay guys in denial really like me. Honestly. Starts to get a biiit creepy. I've made tens of thousands off of whales but it's just like idk their constant horny posting gets annoying. I charge them a few hundred per hour with me, not explicitly sexual and I'll try to legitimately show interest in their hobbies and jobs and life, they just ignore it and instantly thirst. The constant trying to meet up and fuck you is annoying, mainly because none of them are hot. It can be profitable and guys have a pretty strong bonner motivator, so they always show up in streams. I guess pick your poison. If you really want to go down this path it doesn't take much. Just be open, don't speak negatively about any of their stuff. And make them think they're the only one. It's been incredibly profitable for me and I'll always take the bag, but eh. It also can be a bit hot being a high paid whore but your milage may very.

>>23085036
That one was added in reference to the large number aspies who kept asking for "do you think people will watch me learn an instrument/language from scratch?" The answer is obviously no but there was an expectation that the aspie be self aware enough to realize it.

Sometimes I wonder if you people enjoy streaming. Watching someone who enjoys streaming and watching someone who's doing it because they want to be famous or get close to their oshi in hooloolive are two different experiences.

>>23087039
i like streaming, it's like an escape for me

>>23086442
I was mostly saying it as a half-joke. I wanted to play around with prerecorded content and that was the first thing that came to mind. Its not something I want as a mainstay of my channel, but I thought it would be fun.
I like the premise of GFE/BFE but oftentimes its intentionally vague on details/intimacy so anyone can self-insert which I understand but still dislike as a watcher. So I guess my real question is should I bother trying to overcome that or just not do it.

Streaming is sugoi and tanoshi

>>23087717
I'm inclined to agree

Life pro tip: An intermission screen is far cheaper than a model. Spring for one, it instantly gives your channel a feeling of polish even if you're just a PNG.
>>23087039
Stream is the only thing that makes me feel good. Well that and cocaine but that's not sustainable.

>>23084521
>11 people are aged 18-20
Don't get into streaming unless you can maintain your study schedule and not fail your subjects you little bastards

>>23087672
Idk it's up to you. The vast majority of my stream is non sexual, it's just the chatters who are, and the art and animations I do. So it's not a lot of on stream stuff. Idk youre sllrady playing with the mega debuff of being a Troon.

>>23087717

>>23087717
Servalchuuba when

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>>23088477
>>23088484

>>23088477
Namorichuuba when?

>>23085581
I almost interpreted that as (You) being an older woman and was typing out "Please be my mommy chuuba GF", i really shouldn't drink while lurking

>>23085793
I've never heard anybody say that, but I don't mind giving them my milk.

>>23089035
Bonk

>>23089035
No one here wants your gamer fuel.

>>23088247
barelylegalanon here, i only really stream on tuesdays when i get home early, on weekends or when a teacher doesn't come and we get to go home early, so it doesn't really affect my studies

So let me get this straight: the

>>23036637 >>23062002
Guess the waiting game continues on.

>>23061868
Sorry for the late response. I'm pretty small, not even in triple digits, but I also auditioned pretty early which might explain the views happening just now.

>>23089247

>>23087039
I've been enjoying it way more than I thought I would. It's nice being able to experience a game, whether for the first time alongside chat or to give them reactions to parts they're waiting for me to get to.

Though that's with a relatively small following, makes me wonder how the bigger ones deal with even reading their chat messages let alone responding.

>>23087039
its kinda interesting but im still under the impression that from a content making stand point YT pre recorded is still better especially if you are a 2view

although i dont have many friends so hanging out with a few aspies is cool.

https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat

late night apex to fulfil my self imposed weekly streaming practice reps

>>23089832
Getting the audition in early seems like it helps a lot in getting them to view it. I'm a complete nobody and sent it in to both holo and niji relatively early. Got a 30 second view and another around 1 minute 44 seconds. I had auditioned before, and made some clear improvements in video editing, so that might also be something they're looking for.
I haven't heard anything back yet but there's always hope until the debuts.
Wishing the best for both of us, and anyone else crossing their fingers in the thread.

Can anyone give me advice for etiquette when you get raided / when you raid? Just got raided at the end of my stream by an avg 20~ or so streamer randomly because I was playing a game series they liked and wasn't really sure what I should do / do better. I gave a quick introductions, thanked them, and then plugged them after stream on twitter but not sure what else I could have done really. Any suggestions?

Anons, I've been thinking about what "networking" really means as a beginner vtuber, so I'm going to ramble a bit.

I'm a pretty well adjusted person, socially. I can get along with people pretty easily and I don't have qualms about saying hello to people and chatting. I don't view these interactions as business because I only do this with people I am genuinely interested in, which is pretty normal and healthy for a person to do.

My concern is really just the fact that I am a person who gets very invested into interpersonal relationships and can't handle more than a couple of super close ones at a time. There's just not enough time or energy in the day.

As I type this out, I'm starting to realize the answer to my problem. Networking isn't about making friends, necessarily. That's something that can happen along the way, but it's not the goal. Networking is about putting yourself out there so that people can beclme aware that you exist and have a history. This will make you seem more reliable in the future when you do want to reach out to other people.

Welp. May as well post this, hopefully someone here can benefit from seeing my thought process/conclusions. Sorry for being dumb, anons!

>>23093362
Just thank them and thank them for sharing their community, and move on. You don't have to suck them off, just show you're grateful and keep the attention of the new viewers.GJ0M0

>>23093362
Just thank them and thank them for sharing their community, and move on. You don't have to suck them off, just show you're grateful and keep the attention of the new viewers.

>>23093536
Not dumb in the slightest, friend, definitely needed this.

>>23093536
Pretty much.
I've helped people and gotten my name known that people randomly DM me now asking me for help on things. While I wouldnt really consider us friends, I do consider it acquaintances to lend a helping hand with my expertise. On the other hand, if I ever do need something I believe I can count on them if I ever do need some help. One vtuber even remarked how they've casually chatted with me for so long that they would be happy to help collab with me and help me incline.

>>23097864
How've you helped them? Tech support?

my fans are making fan art of me
that's fucking awesome let's gooooo

>>23093536
It's been repeated ad nauseum, but networking in twitter is pretty much like how you network irl for your career. You have tons of personal contacts in your phone that you can ask for tips and stuff but that doesn't mean they're your friends.
The procurement lady of company x whose project you tendered and lost yesterday is by no means your friend, but you can always contact each other for future tenders

Is there a good alternative for throne? Had a few ppl ask me to make one but they won't ship to my address and a P.O box isn't an option

>>23098772
Liveing the dream. Seriously that's the one part I'd die for for being a tuber.

>>23093536
marketing has 100% been my downfall in almost all aspects of my life. its really weird when i hear ina's stories about panicking in public social situations and going to the bank but its so obvious she knows how to market due to her art career basically requiring it.

also i know that my art will get a good amount of eyes on me if i ever shilled in PNG twitter threads, but deep down im kinda anxious about too many people asking me for coms or just any of the troubles that comes with increased attention from strangers from unknown communities

>>23099790
>but its so obvious she knows how to market due to her art career basically requiring it.
Some people are only awkward in public. I use to be in the con scene and there'd be those who were the most outgoing and helpful people online and as soon as you meet them IRL they're super reserved and quiet. Most people's internet interactions while obviously behind the barrier of being online are usually specifically catered to likeminded individuals so there's already that baseline of things you have in common.

>>23085447
anon, i'm pretty sure this chuuba is literally gay

>>23081917

I'm in a bit of a badfeels zone over the audition. No views and I auditioned relatively early...maybe four or five days in.

I thought my application answers would be the stand-out part of the application, but I've got a following in a bit of a niche field in comparison to art and game streams and maybe that slosh-piled me quick.

Is there any chance they probably sort it out by gender or field of entertainment, like art channels get screened at a different time/by a different team than singers and fps gamers? I'm happy I auditioned, but I'd be pretty bummed if I didn't even get as far as a video view.

>>23101455
Anon if you don't have at least 20-30k minimum at this point (maybe even more) it's safe to assume that you've been number filtered. Maybe in some of the first gens if we're talking niji you could have gotten in with less, but if you don't have that nepotism buff or the numbers to make yourself stand out, then it's better to just live and let live. Stop expecting a view, and if one does come your way, then let it be a pleasant surprise, but don't go in expecting one. This being said, I do hope they give you a view because it is rough putting your all into an audition to get filtered

>Discord is king
>nobody wants to make another account for a new app
Are there apps that bridge discord accounts onto FOSS shit?

>>23101747
someone's making FOSS discord but that'll take a while for it to mature. Until then use discord until people can escape.

>>23101455
Someone with 600 ccv mentioned they got ignored a few threads back. No one really knows how the filter works, so best to just move on and try again next time.

>>23076746
>>23073121
>>23071991
>>23077664
Thank you other anons from the previous thread! This has given me great encouragement, I went to bed early. But you guys helped me think about the direction I'm heading.

Assume there is no filter, assume everything is lying. Send in your application, assume it won't get viewed, then get back to work on your content.

>>23102068
basado

do you guys think tsunderia will open up auditions and would you guys apply?

>>23102562
They have what? 2 talents left? I guess if you're that desperate a free model is a free model. Worst case scenario you can't pay it off before they go under.

Thought to try vocaroo and my mic... I'm in shambles. There's little pops and cracks everywhere. None of that thankfully shows up in OBS, even with filters off. I can probably limp along with my wired modmic for a little bit longer.
Do any of you find vocaroo harder to work with in that regard?

>>23103256
Vocaroo has its own audio fuckery, turn these off. They're under the little gear icons.

>>23103256
Ultimately the only thing that matters is what your listeners hear.

>people who spam unoriginal tiktok/memes get more interactions than the ones doing original content

this world is shit

>>23103778
Are you popular? If you aren't the thing that is popular (tiktoks/memes) are more well liked than you. Use the memes and tiktok to become well liked and then people will give your content, which is more of a gamble than the other well established well liked thing, a shot.

>>23103778
Just because you're making original content doesn't mean it's good or funny whereas the tiktok/memes are popular for a reason.

>>23103778
Let's see your "original content" then kek
Also out of curiosity, how old are you?

>>23083898
If someone produced content then they own the rights to that content. They might give a license that allows rebroadcating or they might not. If they don't then the question is whether or not they will make a claim to the rights of their content.

People get confused about DMCA and fair use. Let me spell it out as it actually is. DMCA is a protocol put in place so that content hosts can protect their asses from legal liability. They're not deciding the legal status, if they get a DMCA takedown request they must comply, if the request is disputed they restore the content. If the complainant reasserts that they actually do have rights to the content then the accused can once again assert that no infact they have a right to use the content. Then it goes to court.

When you are in court and paying lawyers a shit load of money, then you can make a fair use defense. That's that.

Now some platforms do a load of other bullshit. Like muting, demonetizing, banning, suspending, or making deliberations on how likely something is fair use. That is all bullshit. The platform decides to do that on their own and it depends on how much weight they have to throw around and how easily they can get away with things.

Keep in mind that everything is copyrighted. Your broadcast of you watching content is also copyrighted. A big shocker might be that games are copyrighted material too. What it all comes down to is how likely are you to assert and defend your copyright. How likely are you to actually take it to court? If you're watching content from a small struggling content creator then under these laws you are illegally stealing their content, true, but they can't do shit. So is it really copyrighted if they can't defend their rights?

Some idiots will say don't worry bro I'll pay you in exposure. This would be fine if that is what both parties had agreed to before hand and signed a contract. the fact is they can't do shit about it even if they wanted to and it's best to make the most of the bs exposure they get than get all legal and ethical. Another argument is that streamers are grassroots and small time and shouldn't be subject to such laws. This is untrue, they are like contractors of giant corporations such as Amazon and Google that are making profits on their work even if their work contains material for which they don't have the rights. Corporations ought to be liable, in turn they get pissed at their users/contractors.

>>23104252
> If you're watching content from a small struggling content creator then under these laws you are illegally stealing their content, true, but they can't do shit. So is it really copyrighted if they can't defend their rights?

Technically you just DMCA takedown whoever is rebroadcasting your stream. You can do that to anyone who opens your twitch stream on their twitch stream.

>>23104252
tl;dr

watch all the youtube videos you want, you'll only get in trouble if it's deemed to be "too much" of a TV show and even then the odds of being caught are obscenely low

>>23104371
Right but you can DMCA anyone even if you don't own the rights. It's the next few steps where the rights are disputed that it gets settled. That Twitch or another platform has something like that put in place for other streams is a platform decision. DMCA itself is platform agnostic.
>>23104491
Nope. You always have to understand that you're infringing on rights as they are right now. Not getting any repercussions today does not mean that tomorrow there is no grounds for repercussions. Do it but don't cry or be shocked if it changes later on.

Probably the biggest reason for the change in how Twitch has to handle music is because record companies looked at Bezos being so rich and decided he could stand to pay his way. When that happens streamers that are like contractors for these big corporations are caught in the crossfire. So being a small streamer isn't going to save you when the big boss is being an asshole.

This might sound really unrealistic today but it could happen tomorrow. Imagine if a company like Nintendo or Sony looked at Amazon Game Studio and was not happy. Maybe they might decide that the parent company should not profit by being allowed to rebroadcast and advertise over their games made for the same market in which they're competing. It's something to always keep in the back of your mind.

For small content creators sure, they're never going to take you to court, they can't afford it. You win and lose by default.

nyan

>>23104781
Can you imagine if Nintendo (well, not them, because they're shit at ideas, but Microsoft maybe?) spun up a streaming platform, and DMCAed everyone who put nintendo content anywhere else?

You play pokemon? Copyright strike. You play pokemon music? Copyright strike.

It's about the only situation I could see another streaming platform possibly succeeding, and that's only if they can ride out the initial hate

>>23104875
I mean it really depends because lets say Amazon Games starts competing directly with Sony's biggest franchises. Then during streams of Sony's games the streams are spammed with ads for Amazon's game. Will they shut up and take it like a good little bitch? I don't know, maybe they will or maybe they will demand money which Twitch could take from the streamers. But anything is possible.

Youtube could change their tune and act more like a publisher taking a collective complaint to Twitch. That would impact react streamers and it's possible because the liability does exist.

It might all seem excessively stating the obvious but I just remember how a low of streamers reacted when the music thing went down, like they didn't understand.

Just always keep it in mind and you wont get blindsided.

>>23104781
Oh for sure, you can throw invalid DMCAs. I'm just saying that is how everyone SHOULD think about it.

>you rebroadcast ANY CONTENT you don't own or have a license for on your channel the rights holder can DMCA you

If I was an evil dick I would set up a farm of low-cost workers that scanned twitch for "media share" and other react content, have them record anyone with significant viewership for months, then bring all of it to a copyright law firm. Easy money.

Who in these threads do you think is obsessed or in love with an /asp/ie chuuba so much that you swear that they consider them their oshi, even if they don’t say otherwise?

>>23106221
the guy that jerks off to bodysuit anon

>>23106221
The self harm anon bros. We run this fucking thread, even if it's just me and two other schizos.

>>23106829
We will wait no matter how long it takes

hi /asp/ anons,
taking emote commissions to fund my vtuber addiction, i haven't made a carrd yet because i recently just made a big move (hence why i've not been able to post the past few days), but i'm ready to take on more comms!
here's my twitter, you can dm me through there: https://twitter.com/ememrld

i've also made emotes for other fellow aspies like dr. konrad and honoka mamoru!
looking forward to working with you!

>>23106828
It's really fucking weird. Obsessed with the guy, and posted in last thread about how Azu is the only babi that has any femininity in their voice?
I just... What? Have you listened to his streams?

OTOH, I do wonder whether it's Azu himself. sorry if not. Because the amount of obsession over "which of these two near-identical shades of blue should I have my toenails" was not completely uncommon to be getting.

>>23107648
glad you didn't go with 5$, great emotes there mate

>>23107648
I think openly "forward-charging" paypal fees is against their TOS. Better not name it that on the invoice.

>>23106221
Anon for sure, he keeps posting in the thread obsessively. All I see is anon posting in most threads.

Wtf is babi? Fat person?

Who are the most genuine and enjoyable /asp/ies? No babis.

>>23107793
Yes, the fixation on azu with no real justification for it is really suspicious.

>>23108599
You discluded most of /asp/ by saying no babis and some of the most enjoyable streamers from this thread are babis...

>>23108557
the babi mentioned in these threads refer to babiniku, a guy with female avatar.

>>23106915
We can do it brother, I believe in us. I believe in her.

>>23108599
Me

>>23108599
That’s tough… I don’t have a non-babi answer to that question

>>23108669
>enjoyable
>babi

Who are the most genuine and enjoyable /asp/ies? Including babis.

>>23108599
Ive been watching most of the non babis here and I think they have potential to grow to something more. It's very exciting too to catch them as they're trying to find their steps.

I do have a list too.

>>23108864
What's your list and who do you think has the most potential and why is it Mashi

>>23108627
I mean we have the self harm fags above that have no justification other than a design a couple of tweets and some vocaroos. I agree that Azu is boring and uninteresting, but some people are genuinely just insane. Not saying your theory is far-fetched though, all babis are attention whores and it would make sense for him to do something like that, just like Yellow cat used to do when shitting the threads endlessly.
>captcha:GAYV2

>>23108864
I'd be interested in knowing everyone who's on your list

>>23109058
>>23108977
I dont know, would it discourage people from posting their names if there's a list of them? I really dont want that to happen.

>>23109045
Gay Version 2… advanced gay

>>23109088
I don't think so, they've already posted their links /here/ if they're known anyway. Worst case, you can post it in an imgur or you can just delete your post if something happens.

>>23109088
Depends. If you're providing nice comments, or concrit, it might encourage people. If you just post "this one's shit" it'll discourage.

>>23108977
Are we doing the "accept Mashi is shit and boring" loop again?

Breeding babis...

>>23109232
Crab

>>23108627
MissFushi has it as well, which is super weird because she's hit partner.
There's one or two people in thread raise her up repeatedly, which is fine, but that doesn't make it less odd

>>23109232
Mashi has art buff. There are no /asp/ies that can draw like she does, don't discount that.

Okay cleaned up my list and split them into female, male and babi.

New vtubers spotted on /asp/
Female:
https://www.twitch.tv/gozimai
https://www.twitch.tv/mashimyu_ch
https://www.twitch.tv/missfushi
https://www.twitch.tv/hanadarin
https://twitter.com/necrodeer
https://www.twitch.tv/lunellavt
https://www.twitch.tv/mirukumaa
https://www.twitch.tv/miomikki
https://twitter.com/MIYOTISCHERUBlM
https://twitter.com/AinGStalt
https://www.twitch.tv/heykayabun
https://www.twitch.tv/itadakinani
https://www.twitch.tv/Lullabaa
Comfy-chan
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAWMroTaNPPSgJSS0ReRJNw

non /asp/ but new to /vt/
https://twitch.tv/laranbonnie
https://www.twitch.tv/vebyvt
Mizuchi https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-RcLKGwpQJAxaV0_BT_h9w

Males:
https://www.twitch.tv/atenhevelius
Emil
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDlaKxbOxEj7GMKrTJCw4OQ
Shosan
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE8H_e_951zHWciykV1N8wQ
https://www.twitch.tv/coyote_knight
https://twitter.com/Hasmekiel
https://twitter.com/MinimoTTV
https://twitter.com/alto_tiro
https://www.twitch.tv/marbuccino
https://www.twitch.tv/gladiatortemporalis
https://www.twitch.tv/ricecakevs
https://twitter.com/ZUNLIVER
https://www.twitch.tv/jaydeadthegoat
https://twitter.com/KY_Draws

Babiniku:
https://twitter.com/Ainslie_Vt
https://www.twitch.tv/yukichireikyu
https://www.twitch.tv/moliminoustheater
https://www.twitch.tv/cordy_ch
https://twitter.com/DoctorKonrad
https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser

>>23108557
You guys better start following me otherwise you know who's car is getting pissed on tonight.

>>23107793
Nope, wasn’t me. I don’t even remember anything about toenail shades? And I don’t consider my voice to be even close to feminine.
>>23108627
There is for sure one person who actually is crazy for me (the UOOHHH SEXSUIT anon) and probably one other, unless they are all the same anon.

>>23109717
woops I missed Yellow cat and Azu2nyan

>>23109717
Very good, now who are your favorites? Do the quality check for us so we know which ones are actually worth watching (please I can't keep clicking links on /asp/ only to hear the most horrid microphone I've heard in my life)

>>23109858
I'd say all the female ones pass the basic quality check, it just depends on whether you like their personality. As for males Shosan, AtenHevelius, Zunliver really good for their voices and trying to be entertaining.

>>23109045
Self harm schizo here. I cannot speak for the other bros, but self harm anon has been a long, long time lurker and poster in the thread and I have seen most of the steps she has taken along the way, the questioning if someone would be interested in her content, the asking for feedback with her design... seeing her go through all the process has been genuinely lovely and makes you feel attached to her. She has been nothing but sweet, adorable, full of energy and extremely autistic every time she posts. Take the self harm pill, become a self harm bro.

>>23109982
oh damn, AtenHevelius closed his accounts. Guess he didnt want to continue as a vtuber. He had potential sadly.

>>23109717
Atenhevelius is no more.

>>23109717
Youre also missing thaumologist from the males

>>23110209
I wouldnt include Thaumologist because he's been around since last year and is included in the wvt lists as well as being responsible for a few events and collabs in his career so far.

This list is for 2022 pretty much.

I'm preparing a small powerpoint for my debut, does it matter much what background I use or how many assets I use? I only have my png and that's about it.

>>23110300
You're thinking too hard into it anon. Just make it looks presentable at the very least

>>23110270
Alright fair point, my bad

>>23109982
How much fucking money does zunliver have jesus fuck why is he still in /asp/???

>>23110394
I have bad taste in general, which is why I normally have to ask these things.

>>23110061
Just looked up Aten out of curiosity, was hoping to see some clips. Well, this about explains it.

>>23109717
Hey I'm not a babi, I have a thick blue berry futa horse cock anon.

>>23110603
You know anons just because people call you pedos, doesn't mean you have to go prove them right.

>>23110603
That seems like a really easy thing to avoid doing. I think maybe that guy went out of his way to prey on a kid online but maybe I’m wrong

>>23110603
https://twitter.com/kechiwashere/status/1514692523033350154

Reading the tweet it seems that his mistake was giving her the chatlogs. It's clear that she's a busybody and is looking for trouble and he was trying to please her by giving her everything when he could have told her off and said that his streams are 18+ and stuff.

>>23111122
This got me thinking, is there any downside to just marking your streams as mature, other than having your viewers to click twice to watch your stream?

>>23110427
All his stuff looks really basic what?

>>23110930
What likely happened is she DM'd him out of the blue and he liked the attention and how she treated him like someone important. You don't have to start as a pedo to become one when the opportunity presents itself. It's easy to avoid doing by not turning into a creep in DMs with viewers though yes.

>>23111241
Not a problem really, marking streams and discords as 18+ helps give you a good reason to ban most of the worst viewers since they're usually underaged.

Is having a partner still a big deal in the western scene? Does it hurt growth? Should you be open about it from the get-go to avoid yabs down the line or should you just not mention it?

>>23111434
Entirely depends on how you market yourself and what content you make.

Are you a cute girl trying to milk simps for all they're worth? Yes you should absolutely not mention it and hide all evidence of it lest your career be ended.
Are you a dude trying to milkyumes/ fujos? Damn good idea not to mention it.
Do you have an actual personality beyond gfe/bfe? Probably a good idea to be open about it so as not to attract any unwanted obsessive fans down the line yes.

>>23111434
Partner isnt as impotant as it was before but it still marks you as someone with high quality because it's hard for twitch to give out partners without passing a certain bar. Overall it's something you should be proud of having rather than it being a debuff.

>>23111434
Are you pandering to otaku/fujo?
Then keep it to yourself.
Else, your audience is probably mature enough to enjoy your company for what it is.

Did anyone here get interviewed already?

>>23110209
Thanks for thinking of me, anon.

>>23110270
"career" made me chuckle. I'm not doing as well as I'd hoped, but I have to admit, I've pretty much covered all the costs of streaming.

>>23109982
>I'd say all the female ones pass the basic quality check
Such low standard for female chuubas.
just like me

I am actually pretty sure that there’s 3 anons that are/were obsessed with me (Azu)
>Cameltoe anon
>give me permission to fap to you anon (maybe same as first?)
>UOOHHH SEXSUIT SEXSEXSEX anon
It’s weird desu
And then there’s Miyo with her occasional art

>>23111434

Woops read it wrong
>>23111518
ignore this.

Whatever you do just dont mention your partner. If people ask you can be open with it. If you're female, people do NOT want to hear about the partner even if you have one but you can still grow even if the knowledge is out. VividlyVivi and Shylily are doing incredibly well and it's well known that they have boyfriends but as long as they dont mention it in their streams and focus on being entertaining, the people watching them are happy enough because they just want the illusion of a cute girl. On the other hand, Veibae had a big decline when she constantly mention her boyfriend sodapoppin nonstop in her streams which just destroyed the illusion of her goslings forcing them to look elsewhere for something else.

Overall it's not career ending, it's not something you should advertise but it's not something you should take every attempt to hide either.

>>23111792
Call me crazy but I suspect one of those might be a yellow cat

>>23111269
Check the specs tab in his twitch about section. 64gb ram? Then check his media tab on twitter. Full of commissions. Plus, anyone who has the money to waste on a goxlr is clearly ahead financially.

>>23111812
veibae is or was dating sodapoppin? holy shit

>>23111812
>veibae had a big decline
strange way to say "her ccv is climbing steadily and she's is about to become the biggest en vtuber at this rate"

>>23112117
her talking about sodapoppin nonstop was what caused her whales to move to shylily, however veibae stopped talking about sodapoppin and had a humongous redebut with her new outfit so it evened out again.

>>23111878
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised
Who else would have made that “sensing your motion” meme

>>23111940
It's okay to be a diy budget retard, I am too, but don't take it out on those who have money anon. Makes you look bitter and crabby

>>23112117
/vt/ babey

>>23111940
i have all of that and more lol? it's called being an adult and budgeting. I haven't even really touched my nonstream money for most of it, but it's not like these things are out of reach for most normal adults who set aside money for their hobby

Goddamn writing a script for prerecorded content is harder than I thought and rerecording multiple takes to get perfection is a pain in the ass, not to mention I haven't even started editing with memes and shit

>>23112412
Oh no don’t stoop to their level

>>23112439
MEMES
THE DNA OF THE SOUL

>>23112439
i did this for the majority of my career and still do every now and then. it can be fun.

>>23112206
>>23112412
Alright alright calm down, I wasn't trying to crab, I was just genuinely wondering how the hell he's bought so much and still counts as an /asp/ie. And he's not a normal adult, he's a student which confused me even more because I'm a student too and I'm barely able to afford necessities, let alone 100$+ commissions that's all.

>>23112546
>implying
>>23112672
I only just graduated a

>>23112698
auto post screwed me lol. i was saying I only just graduated not too long ago, it's still quite obtainable, it's also budgeting and time management for posts. getting a good series of artist that you commission help and learning to do something yourself even better. but I don't think there's some limit on how much money you can spend where you're no longer an /asp/ie?

>>23112439
Thats why you write in cuts so your takes are shorter

>>23101799
I think I'll hold off on discord until Fosscord comes out.
Looking around, might run with matrix and bridge it to discord.

>>23109717
Someday I'm gonna be on this list too. Any day now...

>>23113832
Post your link then

>>23113900
I'm not Vtuber yet

>>23113988
Well I lurk /asp/ so as long as you post your link I'll add it in eventually.

>>23113988
Same, I'm just doing my Twitter reps and failing

>>23113988
Stream today

>>23111122
He could have lived the dream. Maybe still can. Rooting for him and his underage online girlfriend.

Where’s the current list of twitter accounts to follow etc.?
I want to follow all of you (ratio be fanned) so then I can actually get my interaction reps in
t. bodysuit anon

>>23111434
My take is that you should be upfront about it. Not in a "don't hit on me you silly boys" but just came right out and say it if you're asked in chat, then just ignore further inquiries or say you already covered that, people doing reps will take care of the rest and you can carry on.
From what I see lying about it or hiding it only generates rrats and people desperate to find the truth.
Hell, maybe it would be even better if you DON'T have anyone to lie and pretend you do.
Having someone sure as hell won't stop the coomer simps anyway.
But that like you know, just my opinion.

Finished my first commission, feeling good :)
I hope I can reach my Kofi goal of affording a new mic soon
Let's all keep working hard!!

>>23108599
Mashi

https://voca.ro/16JPlQEqUFjl
New mic in and a new excerpt of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. No pop filter yet gonna come tomorrow

>>23108599
me nigga.
blueberry desu. i went babi mode just because i like a challenge and still get better CCW than most. I'll blow in the next 2 years tops

>>23115076
who the fuck actually cares about following-follower ratio?

Been doing my art reps while unable to stream and I'm mostly happy with how my new model is turning out. Still figuring out a mouth shape, though.
How's my design so far?

>>23111434
Why are you even vtubing if you already have a partner.
Why do you need the attention of other men when you already have a bf? That's fucked up.

>>23115773
Mouth shape is fine, angle of the head/face might not be quite right though.

>>23109232
>>23115448
>https://www.twitch.tv/mashimyu_ch
i looked up her channel and it seems very... boring desu. more fitting for like an ASMR put you to sleep kind of thing. not sure why all the hype?

>>23115892
>not sure why all the hype?
Female.

>>23115892
She's cute and has a nice voice

>>23115806
It's a way to try to make a bit of side income working from home while playing video games. Do you think the primary draw of vtubing is attention?

>>23115919
>>23115946
there's so much dead air, she sounds like she's about to fall asleep and I can't even understand what she's saying though? are anons really that thirsty for pussy?

>>23107793
i posted the feminine thing, i just thought he was more feminine than other babis who pretty much give no shits about being female in anyway. the comment was more about trap vs babi more so than azu himself

>>23115692
How would she know what I look like, I never posted a picture of my model yet.

>>23115997
>are anons really that thirsty for pussy?
I think you've answered your question

>>23115809
Yeah it is a little odd. I'm planning to re-orient and clean up some lines in live2d since rigging is honestly easier for me than art

>>23115997
I like that though it's very comfy, makes me feel very relaxed. She has not been streaming long though I'm sure she'll get better with the dead air

>>23115574
Sounds good, maybe add a couple filters in OBS once you start streaming

>>23116049
>>23116064
damn if this is what anons on this gen think good content is that explains a lot. and guys saying things like it's "comfy" makes me think they're either a pedophile or one of those rapists who pretend to be a feminist... or both.

>>23109444
you talking skill or style? for style i will give it to you

>>23116224
>le pedophile boogeymen
Fuck off reddit. Everyone knows she's a hag.

Finally off the waitlist for my model, halfway there to becoming l2d :]

Figured out how to animate vocals in a convincing enough way that isn't :0 :l :0 :l so I'm extremely happy.

Mashi already has an anti?
I knew she was going to make it.

>>23116357
i was talking about for liking her lol, just by the word choices kek

>>23116440
Wouldn't say they're even antis. When people say she's the best thing in the thread when she has very clear flaws people just feel the need to speak up about it. It is a thread about constructive criticism after all.

>>23116527
Constructive criticism my ass.

>>23115731
I have no idea
I think it was something I heard about years ago that people are less likely to follow you if your following:follower ratio is too high

>>23116527
nta but it doesn't seem that constructive, the anon just doesn't seem to like mashi which is fine she is not everybody's cup of tea but they seem weirdly aggressive about it

>>23116224
>and guys saying things like it's "comfy" makes me think they're either a pedophile or one of those rapists who pretend to be a feminist... or both.
go back

>>23116570
yes yes yes anon, if it hurts your feelings it can't be constructive. pointing out the amount of dead air, lack of consistent streaming, low energy and the inability to understand her are all just hate comments

>>23116527
That person is clearly a crab, let's not pretend otherwise.

>>23116651
sorry bro, didn't mean to hecking crash your comf zone, let's go blankey mode and ditch the haters UwU

>>23116689
Dead air/lack of consistency are good critique imo
People clearly understand her fine though, are you ESL?
Energy wise she likes to keep things fairly chill so I don't know what you mean by low energy

>>23115892
Cunny and artist buffs

>>23116767
English is my primary, though i speak a lot of other languages. she mumbles like a high degree. of course, one vod isn't the entirety of her content I just went to the most recent one. and you can have a chill environment but it seems exceptionally sleepy to me, with the lack of annunciation and dead air, etc. a lot of just chatting people are chill but they don't tip into that tired side. that could just be my perspective but I think I watch enough varied people to kind of give a nuanced view

>>23115773
you better get out of here before schizo crab art critique anon hit you with a "please dont take it personal, its great you are putting in the work, BUT..."

>>23116527
Nta but /asp/ is beyond one of the worst places I've ever seen in regards to accepting criticism. Better to play by their little hug box rules lest you get 10 replies calling you an idiot.

>>23116917
the arts, okay i guess? but it's not really all that, to be honest. there are a million people at that level of skill. could you maybe elaborate on what you mean? do you mean she can make assets faster?

ToT

>>23117212
Groomerchama...

gonna stream next week. Hold me to that unless someone I know dies again

>>23116917
This.
Cunny > *
If people liking Mashi better pisses you off just become cunny yourself already.

What's the standard of dead air btw.

https://voca.ro/1l875unoPvXV
rate my mic n shid.
I set the gain pretty high but the volume is still kinda low. Is it because I'm using a laptop usb port for the interface?

>>23117502
In radio its 5 - 10 seconds, you're okay being a bit more quiet if there's like dialogue from a game or you're on hour 3 of talking but 20 seconds of nothing is to
too much, think how long you'd sit in silence with a stranger and just try and let the stream of consciousness flow

>>23117681
Your a very quiet but mics fine. Might be as simple as speaking up a little as it sounds like your trying not to have mum find out your playing xbox at 3am

>>23116967
I've gotten plenty of constructive criticism and so have others, just not everyone here is wiling to supply it so you have to get lucky or just persist until you get it. I'll throw my hat in the pile and give some because i've been lurking in some /asp/ies streams and while it's only my opinion of course, i'd still like to talk about it.

I've been to mashi's stream a couple times and what eventually makes me click away is definitely the fact that i can't understand her. The voice itself doesn't really do anything for me (i'm a raging homo sorry <3), but i do understand it has a certain appeal. If you have ever been in a 1on1 call with someone that has such a thick accent that you have to keep asking to repeat themselves it gets to a point where you are just uncomfortable as a listener. I wished i could just understand everything mashi is saying but i just can't. But as a viewer i also can't keep telling her to repeat herself, so i have two choices: accept it and just listen to her mumble along or i leave. I've noticed this problem with alto_tiro's stream too, it's a little less bad but he also has the tendency to speed up and i have a hard time making out what he's saying.

This problem gets exponentially worse if the streamer is talking to me directly. What reaches my ear is "hi truekaiser ajflasjlfjaeljljlafl" and that really puts me in a difficult spot and makes me very nervous because i have no idea what to do. I might be alone on this, but it's what i've had experienced. Maybe not being native english speaker further reduces my ability to understand english, but i believe i'm rather proficient at it regardless. Obviously a lot of viewers are okay with just listening and not interacting (like in ASMR streams) and that's totally fine too, but i think mashi doesn't want to go full rarted and be a more classical streamer.

Now this has been said a lot and the biggest problem is how to fix it. It requires practise in speaking english and speaking clearly which is effort that might be hard / annoying to do and i totally understand someone not wanting to commit to that. I feel like that could be alienating a lot of potential viewers. I think the best option to mitigate it would be listening to yourself a lot and maybe try to slow down a little.

But then again this point has been made a lot, so this is moot. I consider my voice to be hard to listen to, but people seem to like it. I will try to continue adjusting my voice, but it's been pretty tough. Maybe i should play around with post-processing on the audio.

>>23117809
Yeah, gotta remove all those years of conditioning. Thanks doe.

>>23117947
I wish you were staying a babi bro...

>>23117959
Nta but im literally same boat lmfao. I'm trying to bring up my voice more confidently after having family situations where i wasnt allowed to be even close to loud and such. Godspeed

>>23117212
My body might be a grown man's, but my heart is the one of a little girl.
Sorry, no minors here.

>>23118054
I might have the admiral stick around for special streams, sort of as an OOC model if that makes sense. It might be really awkward to the viewers, but if i don't advertise the admiral streams as much it should be fine. Besides snuffy has like 7 million models and nobody minds. I've really grown to love the character, it's just that it wasn't initially my own, which makes me a tad bit uncomfortable at times.

>>23117681
It is normal to set the physical gain on the microphone to less than max and then increase it with vst plugins after.

>>23118338
>it's just that it wasn't initially my own, which makes me a tad bit uncomfortable at times.
Definitely understandable. I do wish you well when you get the new model.

>>23117947
You do a good job actually explaining what the issue is in words, rather than just "she's got a mushy voice".

But you're also exactly right. Her english is good, but her accent is enough that I have to actively pay attention to get everything, or accept that I won't be able to understand all the words.

For 'cozy' (background) art, just chatting, or asmr streams, that's not a problem. But for anything where I want to actually get anything from the stream, it won't.

Im ESL and can understand mashi just fine. I'm not really sure where this is all coming from.

>>23118419
multiple people said the same thing even in the same way, even bringing up it's better for asmr lol.
some of you really are weird af

>>23118808
i'm native, and no she mumbles a lot, and it's very hard to understand. it requires very active listening which isn't great for streamers since a lot of people will only passively be watching.

>>23107648
If you really wanna make a buck you can easily get 15-20 for this quality on Twitter even without a huge following

>>23109358
I really wouldn't count someone like that as as aspie

My ears was trained by xqc all these years so I can easily understand what Mashi speaking.

>>23108669
>You discluded most of /asp/
maybe most of the current gen but most /asp/ies aren't babi lmao

>>23111434
AiCandii and Buffpup are two people that grew just fine despite openly and proudly being in a relationship. It's only an issue of your only content is selling GFE/BFE

>>23107648
don't surcharge. one no buyer likes paying your fees. but two it's against ToS and will get you terminated meaning you won't be able to use PayPal for any serious business again.

also don't listen to anons saying to "Charge more" charging more is great, but if your business goes from 10 people to 2 and the increase doesn't make up the difference well all you did was fuck yourself. you also have to realize you're competing with all the other kiddos on Fiverr with 10k rep who will give you a bunch for cheap. respect your art and time, but also don't cut yourself out of money

>>23108669
there's like some weird hate for babis that I just odn't understand. like it seems really weird can people give actual reasons why they hate babis? is it just because it makes your dick feel weird and you don't want to address the reasons behind that kek

>>23119515
yeah but they are both selling weird (complimentary)

>>23116957
Art critique anon is an asshole but also correct every time and has fixed multiple designs if I'm thinking of the same anon

>>23119649
The only bad hate i see is that they feel cheated and lied to when the streamer isn't a woman, which is a pretty shit excuse. I understand the "hate" if they can't get invested in a character bc of the disconnect, but even then, hate is a pretty strong word for that case.

>>23119777
the same one that made that adventurer-anon redesign their "scarf"? I'm still a bit sad I didn't chime in for that, it was a perfectly good cowl.

>>23120247
The cowl and helmet versions were good for a standalone art piece or game character, not a vtuber though. That top half was rough and it's all you'll ever see so looking like a generic guard (which no is not a "cool unique idea" before someone else says it) was all that'd come through in the design.

>>23120224
To me it's a mild annoyance, I still won't watch partially due to that and the preconceived notion I've got of most babies being weirdos.

>>23116767
>People clearly understand her fine though, are you ESL?
Don't be dishonest. It's true that she fumbles on some words.

>>23119649
i don't hate babies by any stretch. i've been tempted to get my own fem model (although i can't do girlvoice).
there's two different 'problems' I've seen.
1 - "they're trans!".
the streamer might not be trans. they might be cis het man. that doesn't change the fact that they're effectively wearing women's clothing and body, which is often seen as crossdressing, or a step on the path to transdom (i know, it sounds stupid, but still).
2 - it's a sex thing
some babis go for overly sexualised designs. Huge tits and hips, stripper-style string clothes, fuck-me boots, over done make-up (this is also seen in some transchuubas). think like silvervale (who uses trans colors in her design).

>>23111122
Something about that person that is a pre-debut vtuber seems off. I skimmed through the evidence and it seemed like he can be accused of being weird and creepy but not much else. The sense of justice seems too self-righteous and the demands that were made by another weirdo seems off. Yes vtubers are weirdos without any moral or legal authority. I would not be surprised if they were hiding some skeletons too.

>>23120457
It was less the vtuber design issues and more the "practical" issues that came up with the first draft, which was the sans helmet version. However, looking up the thread and original art, I totally mistook the ends of the scarf for a vest. That led to the thought it was a cowl. That wasn't a good sign.

>>23119777
I'd honestly love art critique anon to rip my design apart. The only real way to improve is to know where and how you went wrong. I am a beginner after all

>>23120525
you're on 4chan and are concerned with other people being weird kek.

>>23121240
is it troon shit if you play a woman in a video game lol? and the second part isn't even a babi thing it's literally just a what you like as a design thing? unless you're okay with stripper designs as long as they're females?

all of it really does sound like reeing for the sake of ree. in some cases seems like repressed troons upset people don't have their weird hangups lol

>>23121714
Every one hides a skeleton. There is one inside of you right now.
You thought I wouldn't know, weren't you?

>>23122353
I only eat watch boneless chuubas.

>>23121714
it kinda seemed like that until you read the dms where he's like, "it's okay if this is a sexual thing for you" other than that someone being 30 hanging out with minors is weird especially when they're bring up sex

>>23122454
Okay /meat/

Babis run this fucking thread!

You ever streamed a game you pirated before?

>>23124098
Nothing will happen.

>>23124137
This anon is lying. I purposely go into 2view streams to check for pirated content, then report them to the feds if I find any. I've gotten 6 chuubas arrested doing this

>>23124098
Yeah, but thanks to Phil Spencer I didn't pirate games since years ago.

Do any of you guys work full time? How often do you stream and how do you work around your work schedule.

>>23124098
All the fucking time. I stopped buying games like a decade ago because I stopped being young and understood that paying for digital games is like getting robbed.
The most recent game I bought is physical version of the witcher 3 because it has disks (physical support, so you're actually paying for something) and it's DRM free. If all games were like this, I'd buy all the games I like, but the profit margin for selling literal nothingness is too huge for the publishers to give up on and the piracy they cause by doing so is a convenient scapegoat.

tldr : who fucking cares, if you're afraid just don't brag about it and that's all.
Don't be dumb too, if it's a recent game chances are it will show your username somewhere on screen and it will generally be the group name (CODEX, etc), edit the proper files to prevent that.

>>23124648
I work Monday-Friday, 09-17:00, with (rare) weekend overtime.
Figuring out a stream time is easy, because I just stream in the evenings when I'd have been on steam anyway. Stream 3+ times a week, 3+ hours a time, but it means I need to actually timetable the rest of those days to ensure I get time for the gym, walking the dogs, eating, and everything else.

>>23124648
Im at work 9 hours a day with an hour and a half trip total. 3 days a week streaming about 2-3 hours each

>>23124445
Don't tell me you're paying for a subscription.

>>23125233
>>23125244
Thanks guys, this is about where I'm streaming too. I need to be more organized about getting in non stream and work things.

>>23124648
I work 2300-0700, Monday-Saturday, so I only stream 4 days every week with 2-3hours in weekdays and 4 hours in Sunday.
I am asking change my shift to 1800-2300 though, it will make my wage 33% less than currently but at least I can have more healthy life(no need to sleep at day time anymore), and more stream time.

>>23125477
I did but I had gold subscription so the transfer price is like almost none.

>>23125772
You're still a retarded pay pig. I bet you pay netflix too.

>>23125839
I don't pay for watch movies.

>>23125839
Damn smells like broke niggas in here. Who actually doesn't have like 11$ for the ease of access, like get a job, go out side.

>>23126116
Then you should apply the same logic to games.
Pay only for what you own.

>>23126351
see >>23126355
It's about the principle, mister doormat/slave.

>>23126355
Why you sound like these games in the service can't be bought.

>>23117947
Hey man, thanks for the feedback, i actually started streaming partially to have a place to practice english, though it's probably not enough, a friend recommended speechace and reading movie scripts so maybe i'll try that, and being a bit more concious about the speeding up thing

>>23126546
Because digital distribution is renting. Have fun trying to play video games offline.

>>23126698
You know most people in this board buy games via Steam right.

>>23122064
since you wanted feedback i will give you some but way nicer than him since hes an /ic/ fag that keeps saying "fundies loomis form"

-my first suggestion is to use references. the body had some wonky anatomy and i think you should just copy a pose from something, i think you mightve drawn the jacket withoutndrawing the body first so the construction of the torso underneath is a bit weak and the jacket doesnt hug the body and looka flat

-the face is important, think about what makes an appealing face and what style you want. i would personally make the eyes more detailed and cater a bit more to a specific tyow of character, again reference attractice characters and understand why they look good

-stop so liberally airbrushing. this is one of the biggest beginner painter mistakes. i know the smoothness and the instantly created form looks cool, but its a crutch and kills all the detailed and subtle form change within the subject. begin with hard brush cell shading, then go back and soften some parts

-try to apply line weight, lines for establishing shape and from should be darker and details like creases should be lighter, this one is hard to verbalize but you can look at a lot of manga art and see what they darken with lines

>>23119777
the art critique anon that likes red lining isnt that bad, but theres a wall of text one thats kinda retarded.

>>23126698
My internet was out for weeks last year and I still managed to play the same games I normally do aside from the online multiplayer ones, what are you on?

>>23126797
Yes I know over 90% of the world's population is made of absolute retards. People are so easy to scam, but what really angers me is that they are so proud of it.

>>23125839
>>23126116
>>23126403

Shit you better not expect anyone to sub/donate to you.

>>23126976
I don't, giving money to vtubers is retarded.

>>23127098
why are you in /asp/?

"I might like babis...?"

>>23127147
To become a vtuber.
Do you think you're entitled to people's money for anything you do?
>hey bros I'm gonna do some abs, then eat a salad and watch a movie, please subscribe

>>23127245
Please Cordy use the voice changer already

>>23127307
If you are even mildly successful as a vtuber people are bound to give you money in donos or subs. I just don't get why you're so against the idea, to the point of calling your potential audience retards.

>>23127312
But then we missing out on the accent

>>23127403
I'm against subscriptions down to the conceptual level.

>>23127245
Post the full thing coward

>>23127441
Fair enough, just don't let it slip and accidentally insult your audience or something.

>>23127498
I don't intend to call them retards, but they'll most likely understand my position when I signal them spending money on me is a waste.
That is if I ever get someone to do it in the first place.

>>23127441
Are you just retarded? Like what is you're reasoning at all? You just sound like a skitzo. Which fair enough 90% of the people here are.

>>23127312
Eww voice changer? That's Troon shit. If anything it's hotter when they have that smooth narration voice.

>>23127245
UOOOOHHHH CORDY CUNNYYYYYY

>>23127608
You actively turn on and apply for those things. Why have them if you don't want them to use them retard.

>>23127652
My reasoning is that money has value and that to spend it on something that thing has to match that value. When you pay for a subscription you don't actually buy a product but the limited right to access something, maybe, sometime. And as soon as you stop paying, you have nothing to show for the money you spent.
>>23127766
Never said I didn't want money, I said it was stupid to spend it. As in sure I'll take yours, but don't expect to get mine.

>>23127245
I WANT TO MATE PRESS THIS ALCHEMIST

OP here, i'm at class posting from my phone so i can't really make a new thread, someone else make a new one when this one dies

>>23127245
Come on, don't blueball me like that, be a bro

>>23127882
So you are retarded then, thanks. Yeah man I went to the movies. Was a rip off, after the movie I had nothing to show for it physically. Paid for dinner but it was a scam, just got hungry later. Unless something provides infinitely at all times it's not worth money. Take your pills

>>23128206
>conveniently ignores the remark about worth
Disingenuous? I didn't see that coming!

>>23128575
Damn dog I guess seeing a movie in theaters vs all of them at home are such drastically diffrent values that it makes one "worth money" what ever that means

>>23128670
No, I was talking about the food. Yes you're wasting money in theater. The experience is absolutely atrocious most of the time because of the other people and the price is long past inflated beyond what is reasonable to pay for it. You're a cuck.

>>23126870
Thank you, that's just the kind of feedback I was looking for. I'm going for a n android aesthetic, so I'm okay if things are little off as long as it isn't too jarring. I've only been drawing digitally for a few months now, so even just getting out something that looks half decent has been encouraging.

Imagine having hard rules about what you spend your money on. Pic related

From the recent tsunderia grads.
Tldr- small corpos are completely worthless and actively hold you back. It's more work to get things done (covers, merch, sponsorships) while in the corpo than indie.

Tltldr don't go corpo unless it's big 3.

>>23129063
That seems weird unless they are running it badly.

You should just be running a talent agency providing support staff. Getting anything done should be easier, since you can potentially provide package deals.

>>23116748
Lol

Menhera Mondays is live, if you'd like to listen someone whine about his life (again) or have want to rant yourself while i console you, here's the address for you.

https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser

>>23129368
Supposedly. But none of them really give a shit.
Plus from a previous prism stream, all the talents are their own agents. They're essentially hired contractors not employees of the company.

The small corps are all just scams since none of them actually give you anything of value in return for their cut of the money.
Maybe Cyberlive but only cause you can just lmao and leave with the model.

Ah, the power of retweet bots
A couple hundred impressions
Three likes (likely from “PLZ FOLLOW ME PLZZZZ” type accounts maybe?)
0 actual engagement

>>23129699
Forgor

>>23128670
You’re making too much sense for that dumb asshole to read. They’re the morally superior pirate, bro.
We all pirate things, but to insist that only tangible and highly reusable things hold monetary value is a bit more austere of an outlook on life than the one I hold. I feel like it also makes perfect sense to pay for experiences or to patronize artists that you enjoy.
>>23128801
>The experience is absolutely atrocious most of the time because of the other people
Oh so you are literally a retard, got it lol

>>23129504
So which is it?!

>>23129873
yes

>>23129836
You keep paying, slave.
I'll be there getting all of it for what it's worth. Nothing.

What are the panels that you should have on your Twitch profile at a bare minimum, and which ones would make it a lot better, even for a new2view?

>>23130125
you're so cool dude