/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23061334
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>61,589: Mikeneko (Indie)
>45,935: Marine (Hololive)
>41,426: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,541: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,516: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,916: Hal (Neo Porte)
>21,743: Botan (Hololive)
>20,830: Suisei (Hololive)
>19,960: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,857: Chloe (Hololive)
>17,845: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,803: Korone (Hololive)
>17,697: Miko (Hololive)
>15,815: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,532: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>13,936: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,831: Iroha (Hololive)
>13,053: Gura (Hololive)
>12,188: Reid (Neo Porte)
>11,498: Ame (Hololive)
>11,347: Ange (Nijisanji)
>10,804: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>10,466: Tamaki (NoriPro)

Correct if I'm wrong but this year is Sora's 5th year anniversary i wonder if they have something massive planned for it

>>23061428
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,512 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken Human fall flat
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D Birthday Concert
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,934 - Valorant tournament watchalong
24) Mikeneko (Indie) - 61,589 - L2D model reveal

> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Kanata, Kuzuha, Okayu
1x: Calli, Korone, Mikeneko, Miko, Subaru

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY*

>5792: Moona (HololiveID)
>3772: Kobo (HololiveID)
>3631: Mika (Nijisanji)
>2558: Hana (Nijisanji)
>2552: Nara (Nijisanji)
>2299: Layla (Nijisanji)
>2201: Amicia (Nijisanji)
>2193: Kaela (HololiveID)
>2037: Zeta (HololiveID)
>1830: Anya (HololiveID)
>1735: Kaela (HololiveID)
>647: Ollie (HololiveID)
>441: Riksa (Nijisanji)
>319: Layla (Nijisanji)
>284: Taka (Nijisanji)
>208: Zen (MAHA5)

>>23061449
it'll be disappointing if they don't

*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY*

>1,238: Ruroro (indie)
>1,142: Annin Miru (indie)
>1,023: Rumi (indie)
>804: Ubye (Cloud Horizon)
>448: Kaohsiung Miss Lin (indie)
>446: Padko (Square Live)
>413: Loco Lost (indie)
>369: No. Fifteen (Rescute)
>306: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>296: Amrzs (Monstar)
>287: Olda (Monstar)
>257: Asa Ifrit (indie)

>>23060639
This place is not a good gauge for reality (with all the schizos) but sometimes trends arise with multiple people asking the same question in multiple forms, lending credence that it is a credible concern by the fanbase of certain chuubas.

For instance, in both Matsuri and Haachama cases people ended up asking in this thread and many others about
>how the can turn their ship straight.

For Matsuri the predominant answer was
>get back in the robot I mean, get back in "the box" Matsuri!
and for Haachama, it was
>be consistent, commit to a set of streams even in a reduced capacity but don't just stream whenever

Two other concerns are popping in this thread and elsewhere recently, and I believe to be related to the actual concerns of the chuubas involved
>kson asking how can she unstuck her sub growth
>Ollie asking how can she stop the recline and go back into an incline path

The answer to kson (from this humble poster at least) when asked about "how to grow the sub count to 1.5M" was
>muri desu, unless she's opening a new market either in LATAM or SEA
and lo and behold, she's collabing with some ID celeb

For Ollie? Here is what people put forward

>drop the "I don't want to be an idol" bit
>drop the "saviourfag for males and off company chuubas" bit
>get back in the fucking robot
>try to find your niche and stick to it

Hopefully she'll listen to this advice because she's sinking and, unlike Risu, Iofi and Anya, it is not because she hates numbers but because she genuinely alienated part of her fanbase and lost some of it to Council (and Bae in particular)

>>23061449
Whatever they are planning we won’t be hearing about it in a few months. So don’t worry about it just yet

Recent charts with the median of peak CCV for the month

>>23058201 :: Top 50 ::
>>23059374 :: 1k plus
>>23060132 :: complete

>mika and risu collab in 16 hours
>reminded that ollie the whore got blocked from selen collabs
yeah I think its only NijiEN thats allergic to Hololive collabs

>>23061428
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken Human fall flat
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Kanata return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D Birthday Concert
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,934 - Valorant tournament watchalong
24) Mikeneko (indie) - 61,589 - L2D model reveal

> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte
1x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
2x: Okayu, Kanata
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko, Kuzuha, Mikeneko

*FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

- 24 April Peak Name Group
> 11,687 VIichan (KR Isegye Idol)
> 11,643 ( 11,150 non-raid) kson (JP Indy)
> 10,216 Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 9,397 Lilpa (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,381 ( 1,156 non-raid) Roboco-san (JP Hololive)
> 8,751 ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 7,458 AdmiralBahroo (EN Indy)
> 6,903 RakkunVT (SP OWOZU)
> 6,257 Kanae (JP Nijisanji)
> 6,137 zrush (CN Indy)
> 5,788 Shylily (EN Indy)
> 4,737 ( 2,864 non-raid) anny (EN Indy)
> 4,722 BuffPup (EN Indy)
> 4,414 ( 2,087 double raid) Nephtunie (SP Fusion Esports)
> 4,133 CodeMiko (EN Indy)
> 3,669 Saruei (EN Indy)
> 3,545 111roentgenium (KR Parable)
> 3,484 Filian (EN Indy)
> 3,282 maoruya (KR Indy)
> 3,014 ( 2,144 double raid) Vienna (EN Cloud9)
> 2,717 KendoMurft (EN Indy)
> 2,410 KSPKSP (CN Indy)
> 2,333 Bery Sihyí (CN Indy)
> 2,332 111roentgenium (KR Parable)
> 2,037 Ikumi (EN Indy)
> 2,033 ash (EN Indy)

Viichan's 2nd win of the month, beating kson by only 44 viewers. Closest win so far.
>>23059374
Speaking of kson and roboco
Kson has succumbed to the TikTok react meta - which made this her highest viewed stream all year, even without the raid, it was getting there.
Only 2nd JP appearance in the podium after Kanae's bronze on the 14th
she raided Roboco after, giving her highest viewed stream since her anniversary 2 months ago
for both their previous most viewed streams being Vampire Survivors.

Another day when Ironmouse was the only VShojo which streamed, very few VS extended even. - Speak of the Devil with Nina from NijiEN

>>23061637
Gonna be real here, I think Ollie will have a really hard time finding her niche because her specialty has always been doing these big and unique types of streams. Something like Olivia.

>>23061493
Nature is healing...

>>23062051
She's good at networking, she could become the one to organize cross-branch collabs for the IDs, especially with JPs who might be interested (Shuba, Botan etc.).
Anya is Japanese so she can help with translations for those who aren't good at English as well.

>>23062051
Am I ignorant for not really knowing what the other ID girls’ niche is? I know Moona has her singing and MC but what about the others? Risu and her NNN?

>>23061729
Here is a different chart from what was posted before
>Roboco-line chart
It has all the female chuubas that outrank Roboco (except the other HoloJP girls)

Roboco, this month, is the lowest ranked HoloJP so this is the list of girls that would not be outranked by every HoloJP.
It has no particular meaning but a show of worth and strength

>>23062152
I don’t think she regards herself as potentially a good leader and organizer. I’d say that Reine is probably like that in ID, she has done the International Gartic Phone Collab and some other small collabs with EN and JP.

>>23062316
Funny thing is that Virtual Obaachan is the highest ranked Indie female vtuber on Youtube, outranking even kson (and Ito Life, a female (male) vtuber). Crazy, isn't it?

>>23062316
Roboco still has better numbers here than on Twitch - 1,882 peak median in 5 streams.
https://twitchtracker.com/robocosan_hololive/streams
Though, she did grow 7k followers in the last 2 days.

>Kson raided Roboco
She's even saviorfagging Hololive members, what a sweet girl

>>23061428
>>23061493
thanks anons

>>23062492
Speaking of Virtual Obaachan, here is a blast from the past

In 2019, Goo Ranking (whoever they are) asked the Japan fans to choose the best Virtual Youtubers. Here is their ranking
>1. Kizuna Ai
>2. Kaguya Luna
>3. Hacka Doll
>4. Obaachan
>5. Dennou Shojo Siro
>6. Mirai Akari
>7. Nekomiya Hinata
>8. Tsukino Mito
>9. Nora Cat
>10. Oda Nobuhime

Some of these are in this ranking here >>23061729, either in their former lives or in their present ones. The only ones outranking Obaachan are
>Mito
>Not!Nobuhime (by a whisker)

>>23061917
I don't get why the Vwhores aren't streaming. Isn't the meta on twitch streaming everyday so as to not run the risk of being usurped from your spot? It's not like they have idol reps either.

>>23061637
Ollie is a bundle of talent, but decide to threw everything out of window for trying to be 'different'. i used to think it was all from management trying to replicate kira kira thingy but now i believe its all on her. God fucking damn it what a waste, she could've become a great collab partner for JP and EN. I truly despise what she become now

>>23061729
Updated charts of 30 days median of peak CCV

>>23060888 :: Noel

And here is Suisei. There is no words that can explain this chart here
>pic related

All that can be said is that she's keeping a 20k+ median since mid February, her longest continued streak on that threshold, up from being a sub 15k streamer in late 2020.

This is something ... beautiful!

* NIJISANJI TALLY OF THE DAY *

>41.474: Kuzuha
>17.845: Lize Helesta
>15.814: Kanae
>14.549: Ibrahim
>11.397: Ange Katrina
>10.792: Maimoto Keisuke
>9.663: Vox Akuma
>8.899: Fuwa Minato
>8.673: Shu Yamino
>8.445: Hayato Kagami
>8.306: Sasaki Saku
>7.830: Kanae
>7.766: Yashiro Kizuku
>7.524: Warabeda Meiji
>6.898: Lauren Iroas
>6.657: Nui Sociere
>6.516: Luca Kaneshiro
>6.120: Uzuki Kou
>5.756: Enna Alouette

Don't underestimate my power!

Ah, peace

>>23062152
Ollie is entirely too autistic and too much a fan of her senpais to ask anyone. I'm still mindblown that her apex collab with towa and rpr was set up by rpr because she couldn't bring herself to ask.

>>23062492
haven't seen her discussed that much here, is this a recent incline or was she always getting these numbers?

>>23063112
Here is the August 2021, adding the data for indies and minor companies.

She's up there, with a 4k+ median. It seems she was always this strong but, up until it was possible to numberfag her properly, nobody paid attention

>>23061428
Mikeneko is honorary Niji!

NIJI WON
>NIJI WON
NIJI WON
>NIJI WON
NIJI WON
>NIJI WON
NIJI WON
>NIJI WON

>>23062400
>>23063050
what the fuck, she has no problems going all "I'm gonna marry you uwu" and "PLAY APEX WITH ME" with zero shame but is concerned about actually asking for collabs?
Also it's been close to two fucking years, how come she still hasn't initiated stuff, even the fucking autistic onion managed to start the StartEnd arc which gave us so many big numbers.

>>23062827
rrats are that they sent out Wave 2 rejection messages yesterday, since a few big Vshoujo + posted doomer tweets at exactly the same time.
Might have not been mentally fit to stream, just Mousey already had scheduled with Nina and had to keep it.

For the always streaming part, VS and Isegye showed that once you're in a big enough group, you can take week long breaks and still have a big audience to come back to. Even on Twitch.

>>23062241
Iofi is drawing and networking.
Risu is singing and shitposting.
Ollie is gimmicks.
Reine is /u/
Anya is Japanese.

>>23063245
She probably has initiated some here and there, but yeah. She’s just as autistic as the rest of them.

>>23062241
Risu is shitposting and Karaoke. Iofi is being the Homos cocksleeve and networking (actual networking and not whatever the fuck Ollie is doing), Reine is the down to earth ojousama experience. Anya is the HoloJP trapped in the ID branch experience. Even the new ID's already have their own niches.
>Zeta = ID gfe
>Kaela = Hag tardwrangler
>Kobo = Branch ace/ Kusogaki/ ID Gura
Ollie initially had a niche which was the annoying younger sister that you cared about but you still wanted to smack. The problem with that is she stopped being a 'younger sister' experience and just became annoying. Honestly, you can call me a schizo but the whole connor arc really proved to be her undoing. Connor was always disliked by a not so insignificant portion of the Holo fanbase. It would've been fine if Connor actually stuck with Ollie like he did with Ironmouse but once VSHoujo became a thing, it became apparent that the Zombie became all but used goods to the ecelebs. Ollie should really stop acting like a redditor chuuba fan and just go back to the basics. She needs to nail her HoloFes performance next year because if she doesn't then she's fucked.

>>23062952
And here is Subaru, a incline so steep it could make a bloke go hard by looking at this chart.

I did some counting for Kiara's Portal stream

>>23063245
Those things are part of her act. Ollie's personality is one of the most divergent from her inner self. She might seem like a genki zoomer who screams apex and love at everyone but she's actually massively insecure and a bit of a menhera. Her self confidence has taken a lot of blows from all the people who've taken advantage of her and shit.

>>23063326
That whole "would you slap me for $" was pretty funny but you could see just how distant a lot of the JPs were with her, she doesn't have anyone on the JP side that she can bantz with.
HoloDeath was a pretty nice project but that's dead in the water now...
Maybe Marine?
Three way JP collabs with Anya might be a good idea for both of them to incline imo.

>>23063239
Where's Suisei?

>>23063424
>>23063582
>>23063326
Here is Ollie's 30 days median chart. She peaked twice
>Early Feb 2021
>Late Jul 2021

>>23063605
This is honestly one of those times that I wish Coco was still there. She at least could slap some sense into that dumbass. Didn't she give advice to Moona after the whole 66 minutes incident?

>>23061637
>Hopefully she'll listen to this advice
The question is, can she get back those she alienated? It's been a long time and all this time she's been unrepentant and set in her ways and now just because she's reclining she's asking for advice and might change things up? If I had been one of the fans that would just strike me as disingenuous. There's nothing that says she won't go back to doing the same shit again once she's inclined enough anyway. It seems ingrained into her very being.

>>23061637
Most of the advice for Ollie seems retarded.
I don't watch her that much so maybe I am the retard here but still.

>drop the "I don't want to be an idol" bit
Does she bring that up often? I remember a few "rants" months ago but does she still mention it in her streams?
>drop the "saviorfag for males and off company chubas" bit
That's plain retarded. Other IDs mention/collab with off company chubas often with Moona being the biggest one and it hasn't affected her. Also, the whole "stop interacting with males" thing seems like something a retarded holofag would say and not because he wants to help Ollie. Risu and Iofi also support male chubas and that has caused them to problem, either. Someone mentioned in the previous thread that Ollie makes a lot of "sexual" jokes. If that's true, I guess that's one thing that she can improve on, especially when she collabs with guys. It makes the situation awkard both for her collab partner and the audience.
>get back in the robot
This month she had one collab with Reine/Kaela, one with Haachama, one with Mio and one with Iofi. She could try to have more collabs but it's not like she's isolated.

>>23062952
I kneel, empress

>>23061334
My bad, I stopped paying attention to her. Okay I'll let her lick my testicles just this once.

>>23063657
Eyesight reps anon? #20

>>23063703
This chart in particular feels so jarring that it almost completely shows how CCVID never left ID whatsoever, and that the bumps are ID3 bringing in new fans as well as Ollie celebrating milestones.

Is Pikamee reclining because of her new outfit, or due to something else?

>>23063768 (me)
to problem = no problem

Sana really to catch that Kiara SC reading funnel.

>>23063860
Oh, I ignored that multiple non-hololive-color companies since it was obvious she wouldn't be there

>>23063768
>Moona
DO YOU KNOW WHO ELSE MOONA COLLAB WITH? THAT'S RIGHT USADA FUCKING PEKORA AND OUROTISM KRONII, IN WHAT GAME YOU ASK? THE GIGA BUFF MINECRAFT GAME, OFC HER NUMBERS DIDN'T TOOK A HIT, OH IT ALSO HELP THAT SHE'S GODDESS AT SINGING, WHILE THE ZOOMB? FUCKING SUCKS AT IT
LINK ME OLLIE ONE ON ONE WITH HIGH TIER HOLO THAT HAVE STORYLINE AND I'LL SHUT UP YOU DUMB BITCH

>>23063417
timeline wise, the blunt of the "Connor arc" was around spring wasn't it? March is when i'm finding the clips and streams.

She participated in the chess tournament in July with him, but that was at the height of her viewer numbers

Specifically her numbers started dropping after Council debut around September.
Partially because Council is presumed to have pulled EoPs that were using ID as ENlite, since Myth rarely streamed but mostly because for some reason ID partially secluded themselves at the time - when they spoke more ID for a while and made the ID MC server i mean, because there were still a lot of collabs.
Most members took 1-2 week breaks, though the numbers don't stand out as much looking back now at the 9-7 months old streams. Looks more like a slow bleed.
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/ollie

>>23061637
>drop the "saviourfag for males and off company chuubas" bit
how does Moona get away with this? Is it just about being on the down under, rather than the openness Ollie shows?
Or is it just about the males?

>>23063872
According to VSTATS, not really.
>Oct 2021: 2.009
>Nov 2021: 1.312
>Dec 2021: 1.349
>Jan 2022: 981
>Feb 2022: 1.394
>Mar 2022: 1.750
>Apr 2022: 1.592

>>23064063
Moona was involved in the Connor thing too, but she double-backed and apologized. Other than that, her off-company collabs are mostly with 3-view SEA chuubas that no one really knows, her sisters, or that one Russian girl.

>>23064030
Thanks timeline anon, those are the numbers i was looking for.
>>23063703
So yes, peak was July with the chess arc, went down for a while, was recovering and now we're probably still in CCVID infested water.

It's not actually "probably" btw, when even Zeta gets 100% viewer participation in 2 minute polls... when YT said they're already culling polls even.

>>23064013
Since when did this thread have a resident Ollie schizo?

>>23061637
I kinda agree with this guy
>>23063768
Most of the advice people here give for ollie seems to be less "this is stuff that's guaranteed to help you incline" and more "I'd prefer it if you did this stuff and it might help you incline because I'm sure alot of people think like me(based off nothing but my experiences on this board)". Also most of it is just "completely reinvent yourself", ie the same stuff we lanbast Flare for doing.

>>23064271
All the schizos are here

>>23063239
What the fuck happened to kronii

>>23064063
>>23064228
Does that Welsh fag live rent free in your brains? You have tied all of Ollie's successes and failures with Connor?

>>23064406
It's from August 2021, debut buff in place

>>23064406
depression/family drama/dead pc arc

EN management currently debating on whether to punish Gura for this

>>23063768
> Also, the whole "stop interacting with males" thing seems like something a retarded holofag would say and not because he wants to help Ollie
OK anon, you can believe that as much as you would like, and she can keeps her ship full steam ahead on her current trajectory.

Take Moona: she IMMEDIATELY dropped any pretense of wanting to collab with males (specially eceleb males) the millisecond one of her gachis called her on it because she's not dumb and knows the profile of the audience she has got.
That gachi of hers quite literally saved her career because she was heading into the same iceberg that sank Ollie's ship

When people say that it is not out of disdain for male vtubers. Damn, Astel is my boy-oshi and lately I may be catching more of his karaoke streams and APEX streams than of any other streamer in the company, boy or girl.
More than that, back in February 2021 one of her highest incline arc was exactly in that fateful collab with Astel where he held her hand and hard carried her through APEX matches.

But Holo audience is there for one thing
>cute girls doing cute things
and the presence of boys doesn't really attract that audience, it pushes them away and if you don't have the strength and the name recognition of a Fubuki or a Matsuri (which also reclined because of just that too) you're sabotaging your own channel.

>Other IDs mention/collab with off company chubas often with Moona being the biggest one and it hasn't affected her.
As for collabing with other companies Moona does that alright, but always in a very organic manner with people she genuinely consider her friends (like that Mana ruskie chick friend) and not because she wants to connect with other companies and streamers and build a big happy vtuber community.

Ollie didn't just went too far out of the box with her vtuber collabs, she did the same with her non vtuber interactions as well.
Both were solid advices

>This month she had one collab with Reine/Kaela, one with Haachama, one with Mio and one with Iofi.
Outside of ID you mentioned one with Haachama (my oshi) and it was one of the worst collabs Haachama had in recent memory. I didn't catch the one with Mio to give an opinion but those two were really not enough to kickstart anything.

>>23064406
She went all out in debuffing herself.

>>23064569
I don’t know anon. When you have a family member who’s abusive and is on the cusp of intentionally doxing you because they know you’re in Hololive and want to see you suffer, I’d be pretty fucking depressed too.

>>23064523
sex punishment is needed

>>23063757
trust once lost is not easily regained, but small actions do add up.
Matsuri raised her median from around 3.5k in December to 5k now just by showing (by her actions) that she was getting back into the box, and streaming consistently.
Startend hype had overshadowed her Apex tourney as well and very few people were cheering for her, but she managed to not sperg out.

Here is Ollie's January and February 2021. From what I remember from her highlights in that period, that would be

>Ollie "grave house" Minecraft arc and Botan building a ramen shop right on top of it, and Nene connecting it with a tunnel to Gen 5 house
>Ollie-Astel APEX arc with their impromptu collab

>Holos don't want to interact with the homos or any male chuba in general.
>It's their choice. Cover is not forcing them to do anything, they just don't want to interact with males. Off yourself, beggars.

>Holos mention and interact with the homos and other male chubas either on YT or Twitter.
>NOOOO! WHAT THE FUCK! YOU CAN'T DO THAT! STOP THAT YOU WHORE, THAT'S WHY YOU ARE RECLINING!

What is this mental illness called?
The only thing I will agree with is fuck e-celebs (male or female it doesn't matter).

>>23064413
reps nigger, /moon/ was sperging out while Moona was lurking and she actually got upset about it, which is why she ended publicly talking about him.

>>23064654
Wait what???

>>23064827
Maybe that's why she has found herself reclining now, because he listens to niggers in /moon/ and /numbers/.

>>23064790
And here is her month of July. She build a MASSIVE momentum full of tourists and cleared the entire month without a single "in the box" collab.

It helped grow her subs but did fuck all to help her gather a recurring audience, which unceremoniously dumbed her the millisecond she tried to go back to her normal programming

>>23064916

>>23064818
Well, it's their choice. The thing is that choice can kill their channel growth. We discuss here how to increase numbers after all and reality is that requires cost of freedom to do whatever you want.

>>23064916
>reclining
>#1 subbed ID despite anons predicting that Ollie would overtake her as early as last year
>2nd only to Kobo and outranks every NijiEN girl in the current month median
Anonchama, are you okay?

>>23065019
> that Gundou collab
Jesus I had memoryholed that for some reason...
I guess that's one difference between Moona and Ollie, she collabs with friends and does it frequently enough to build a dynamic between them, while Ollie is going through a checklist - one and done - for most of the outside ones...

>>23064818
Anon, it is not different from giving a financial advice: your employer has no control on where you will spend your paycheck but (in the US, at least) he will strongly advise you to max your 401k because they'll match it and it will build you a nest's egg.

They won't forbid you from spending it all on "scratch and win" lottery tickets but when you start suffering from your own financial stupidity your friends will say
>you shouldn't have spend it on lottery tickets.

That doesn't mean they hate lottery tickets, just that it is an obvious conclusion that if you spend your paycheck on lottery tickets your financial situation will recline

>>23064916
Try responding with something accurate

Damn, gwombus didn't follow up on her idea of making the member karaoke public. God forbid she boost her numbers

>>23065120
Moona rarely collabs outside the box nowadays. Her last collab before the most-recent one and excluding her birthday totsumachi was 6 months ago with Mana.

>>23064818
But both point aren't contradicting each other thought?
If she wanna go variety collabs way, then she need to find your own audience and not from majority of holos audience pools. Like towa finding footing in fps and for her singing. Ollie can't seem to find her footing

6k waiting for Ina

>>23064916
>Maybe that's why she has found herself reclining now,
Actually Moona incline after Holofes only have two parallels
>PekoMoona
>Usaken Summer Fes
This is actually the first time she inclines this hard without leaning on Usaken.

Pic related has her 30 days median. A thing of beauty, that incline

>>23063050
That can’t be true. Really? That’s hilarious and sad at the same time. Peko or Gura I could see but Towa?

>>23063757
Her EN fans moved on to the many new girls and her ID fans now have ID3 who are doing pretty well.

I'd say she's going to recline to Iofi and Anya levels where she'll be a support role and mostly talked about during collabs.

She could have taken the APEX gamer route but I think for all the hours invested there she never got *good* good.

>>23063757
>The question is, can she get back those she alienated?
>>23065507
>Her EN fans moved on to the many new girls
Yeah, the fact Bae is a better Ollie than Ollie herself in EVERY aspect (even the negative ones) killed her kitten right there

>>23065252
iirc she still does the Nyori family ones from time to time right?
Last 6 months she was probably busy practicing for the fes.

>>23065468
>That incline during CCVID
Her karaokes were such a miracle

>>23065468
Here is every Moona stream in March and April. You can EASILY see where her incline start
>the day after Holofes
and can also see it picking up speed right after ID3 debut

My thoughts on how to help some of the reclining ID girls:

Anya: take the JP pill and do JP zatsus about japanese and Indonesian culture. She has a unique point of view that would be interesting to hear about.

Ollie: either go full pro on APEX or drop it for the 3-4 gimmick streams (math, chess, Olivia).

Iofi: you're cute and attractive and people seems to be horny for you all the time. Start dabbing into GFE or at least ASMR.

>>23065685
Her last collab with the Nyori senpai was 10 months ago.

>>23065791
bummer... even with low numbers, it was good fun to watch. Are those other chuubas still alive?

>>23065699
Here is her december and january. She supercharged herself in those months, she was out of commission for November or December because of exams, no?

So she only did buff streams from that point on

>>23065734
that 100 song karaoke was kino.
also maybe she need to collab more with her senpais or kouhais. it actually help her growth.

>>23065850
They are and they’re all still pretty close. One sister apparently has a cover with Moona in the works.

>>23065885
>she was out of commission for November or December because of exams, no?
Yup, and it was the time she was moving to her current place too.

>>23065770
Anya could do podcast like streams but with JP member like iosoradio. it will boost her numbers like, a fucking lot.

>>23065928

8 threads has passed, I don't know why I'm here but EN3, where are you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIw9b_go1s
friend friend friend... what're you doing?

>>23065228
The moment she put "chat" in it, it's hard to make it public. btw, last year her worst peak median in ccv also happened in April, weird coincidence.

>>23065228
I wonder if Gura making her membership such a good value (it always was but especially recently) is a good financial strategy vs. doing big buffed public streams. Gura is on a membership tear recently, no shrimp could possibly be dissatisfied and you see non-members express FOMO in /hlgg/ about it. I wish we could get solid membership numbers to see if she's inclining on that front.

>>23066342
Will this be more of a debuff than FF14? she is gonna land right on top of Ina return and Gura member in an hour.

>>23066342
have you seen her numbers lately? JOPs have abandoned her so she's trying to attract EOPs

>>23066342
this will do worse than her ff14 streams

>>23065469
Why not lol. Sure Towa isn't peko or gura but compared to Ollie she's still a giant, even more than those two if we're talking apex.

>>23066473
Isn't that just the FF arc? She just needs to play something else

>>23066342
I wish we could go back to 2019/2020 too friend...
>>23066473
I mean her karaoke a couple of days ago peaked at 11k so I wonder...gen 1 is truly cursed

>>23066473
>JOPs have abandoned her
I mean, she just needs to stop spamming FF14 and they will be back. But she is too autistic about the game

>>23064818
It is their choice. It's my choice whether or not I support them.

>>23066285
EN3 will be after ID Vsinger

>>23066069
>iosoradio
Does that boost iofi number?

Ina 10k zatsu

>>23066380
Members Gura is like a completely different beast. I don’t think it’s inaccurate to say that if the public got that version of Gura on a streaming basis, she would be even bigger than she is now.

It’s like a mix of prime cuteness, sweetness, tenderness and silliness all packed into one. The fact she gets 55-65% member participation in chat despite her overwhelmingly large fanbase says a lot, people really want that experience

>>23065770
>Iofi: ASMR.
Her mic is way too shit for that.
But yeah, more GFE stuff from her would be pretty cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0cqZShCQE

She'd still hit the same issue she normally does - audience is too fractured. She probably has the only 3 way split in JP, ID and EN viewers and she ends up saying a lot of things 3 times, which isn't great for new viewers which only speak 1 of the languages in keeping up.

Kronii playing MC on her other account

>>23066810
>ID Vsinger
>ID tag
>vsinger tag
>competition with Moona, Risu, and now Kobo (?)
A fate worse than death.

>>23066342
Friend... from FF debuff to an guerilla english stream, why do you hate numbers so much?

>>23066473
They didn't abandon Friend, they abandoned Friend that's addicted to FF14.

>>23065468
Thank you so much, graphanon.
If it isn't too much to ask, can you do a chart about Flare's CCV? I want to see if she's getting better numbers after her two newest models (the schoolgirl and the redesign)

>>23066963
??

>>23066342
I really want to impregnate friend so fucking bad holyshit.
How the fuck we only get fucking one hentai game about Fubuki so far.

>>23067131
at least is not the worst worst possible time for it. Late night in EU, afternoon at the east coast and noon in the west coast.
There have been worse cases when a jp chuba schedules an English stream close to jp prime, that's just suicidal.

>>23067281
absolutely based, I want to fuck the entirety of the gen 1 girls until my dick falls off
and yes, I count fubuki as gen 1 and not games

Based Ina getting 10k talking about her computer problems. What a flex power move.

>>23067238
Roommate shit apparently.

If Ina is supposed to be boring incarnate.
Why are 11k people listening to her talk about PC troubleshooting issues

>>23067374
would have been 20k+ ~1 year ago, but it's happened way too often.

you know what, I can see friend's stream hitting 8k maybe...IDK why but I just feel it

>>23067340
Ye, the time is fine but it would have been better announcing it beforehand but apparently her cat woke her up and she probably was bored and thought it was a good idea

>>23067281
Even mito has only one hentai game based on her anon

>>23067374
>>23067438
Because she cultivated an audience and maintained consistency in that slot

>>23067438
anon, there can be a lot of boring people who like boring people. Think the stereotypical accountant that only hang out with other accountants.

>>23067476
Ina won't talk that long, she won't hit the 2 hour mark. Unfortunately Gura member singing starts soon.

>>23067488
definitely, guerilla EN streams for jp or JP streams for EN is death.

>>23067438
>he thinks you need to be interesting ti get numbers
kek

>>23067438
Ina's the vtuber equivalent of 'twitch pro player playing their game of specialty'.
They do the same thing at the same time and get the views.

>>23067537
>>23067683
All im hearing is "because she is good at her job"

>>23067438
Holy shit I've never seen this level of pathetic takodachi cope. Sincerely, please kys

t. Teamate

rrat:
They are trying to appeal to non-japanese speakers since yen is reclining

>>23067805
good at you job=/=interesting
she's the most bland, most boring holo I've ever seen

>>23067805
nah, you are just a takofag that hears whatever he wants to hear

>>23067880
I believe this rrat

>>23067880
a year or so to late for that though.

Fubuki did a Reddit post 2 days ago, then Lui did an English stream, and now Fubuki is doing an English stream.... If the signs aren't more clear then I dunno what it is.
All bets on EN3 getting announced next week

>>23067880
Wouldn't surprise me desu

>>23067438
Hololive fans love unusual zatsudans and she's doing a cool thing where she draws as she narrates. Remember this stream where Mumei talked about going to the dentist and her mouth being numb for 2 hours and got 12k ccv? https://playboard.co/en/video/IkLgFDGfjNk

>>23067944
I will cum profusely if EN 3 gets announced. All I ask if that they put a milf hag in gen 3 to fill in the missing niche

>>23067851
Im not even a tako, ive never watched her. Hence why im asking whats the appeal
All i know is that the only complain people have is her being boring, never drawing coco, and shitting on chat to defend Mori.

>>23067805
quality =/= numbers
this should be posted with the links every thread as a reminder

>>23067805
You always know what to expect when you watch Ina. It's not a bad thing for viewers, but honestly, it's not that exciting.

>>23067944
what about haachama? any plans for anything eigo?

>>23067944
That'd be earlier than I'm expecting, because they always drop the gens within a week or so of the announcement these days so it'd mean an early May EN3. I figured they'd do en3 after council's first casual outfits

>>23067373
I'm only aiming for fubuki though.
Really wish there are more hentai games about hololive.

>>23067999
>milf hag
doubt they will be be able to find one but i'm not complaining if it happens

>>23067944
Seems a bit early, unless they are going back to "one month hype" instead of just dropping a bomb that they'll be streaming in like 3 days.

>>23068058
>haachama
>plans

why do people say ina is boring anyway, she is pretty sharp, likes to joke about, decent gamer and really talented. is it just because she is soft spoken or what am i missing because clearly a lot of people like her considering her numbers

>>23067880
Considering i found at least 2 other Vtubers doing English duolingo right now, i believe it.

>>23068058
Haachama's streams can't really be used for hints about company strategy, she's too random

>>23067438
>click on any ina stream to see what she is doing
>instantly fall asleep
>can't leave stream so numbers only go up as more and more people get trapped in there
>snooze while the stream is running

>>23068184
I don't watch her because it sounds like she has a potato in her mouth, other than that, she seems decent

>>23068184
You couldn't be samefagging any harder if you tried

>>23068149
She has her spreadsheets and notes of ideas.

They're not necessarily organized plans, but she does plan stuff.

>>23068184
Because they can't come up with anything else bad to say about her.

>>23068184
I think EN don't like soft spoken one just like JP don't like loud one

>>23067944
Lui has consistently been doing english streams since her debut retard.

>>23068337
On any given month Ina is always second or third most popular EN member so you might want to rethink your logic here

>>23068184
regardless of excitement factor.
Ina is an EN vtuber that actually deserves to exist.
She's professional, consistent, isnt obnoxious or annoying, no yabs, respects the culture, and does her JP reps, and is a huge fan of the medium and otaku culture in general.
Boring or not she deserves the slot

i cannot fucking believe my brain has been wired to go to Ina's stream over Pomu's when I compare their numbers even though I generally prefer Pomu's content

>>23068337
Then why were Watame and Lulu the most popular JPs in the EN time slot before Ina started?

Besides Korone and Coco ofc.

>>23068287
?

>>23068434
> The patient is suffering from severe number rot

friend seems to be doing pretty well considering things, better than her ff streams at least

If Ina wasn't lazy and did the same thing Marine does with the little comic i'm sure she could get 3-5k more people

>>23068434
Ina hour is Ina hour.
Even if it's about 1 hour later than usual.

>>23068310
>spreadsheets
now here is a girl for us

>>23068434
Nice blog bro

>>23068412
it's crazy how all of those qualifications seem so easy but you can hardly find any ENfailure who fills all of them

Gura's member post says she wants to cat about next week since she'll be busy. Ruh roh, the gen 3 rat!

But I really doubt they're debuting gen 3 before giving council an outfit desu

>>23068337
>JP don't like loud one
>some of the most popular holos include pekora, subaru and miko who are all loud as fuck
ogey

>>23068006
That’s basically all shitposting seaniggers have as an excuse to shit on her. The guilty gear joke and apology arc was fucking funny, no one cared when she made the joke but when they saw her apologize shitposters all jumped on it and tried their best to make it a thing.

>>23068522
she uses google sheets and outs stuff on her calendar I think, it's pretty organized, I watched her member's stream today and it surprised me

On the other side of the lake,
Any reason why so many Nijis played baseball lately?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUAu-sjRlps

Also, Mikoto has streamed more Today than in some whole months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je4tWNqkN5w

>>23066981
idk dude they might hit a jackpot or some shit but ehh yeah, small chance
I mean Kobo was unexpected for sure but thats about it

>>23068542
Gura saying she'll be busy so she can have a clear schedule when the real reason is to leave a few days open for announcement, debut, and collab without numbers shark stealing any viewership... I'm almost starting to be convinced

>>23068527
I think its because Ina had to hustle as an artist and grow her business from scratch which is very different from the lifestyle most other EN vtubers lived before debut.
The rest were either neets, bitter wagies, sluts or leeches

>>23068634
>played baseball lately
Uh... Niji main game?

>>23066810
ID vsinger... My god. Too many stacked debuffs. Who would agree to take such a stunted, doomed position

>>23068634
>Any reason why so many Nijis played baseball lately?
Bro i think they played that shit for like every single year

>>23068733
Rainych

>>23068853
Normal Hololive would be a career upgrade for Rainy but not HoloID

>>23068733
If they can get ID songs permission to sing, it's actually not that bad. But yeah, it's big debuff if they can't get that

>>23068634
>Baseball
>JP most proud national sport (yes, more than "foolball")
>Niji is Japanese sweetheart (yes, not your holo whore)
What do you expect ?

>>23068634
Honestly I understand why the Hal gold schizo got so mad

>>23068774
>>23068706
sure, but outside of some tournament months, there's usually just 1-2 playing it in a week/month.

But there were 4 just TODAY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQVKIscgKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyFYfJxnj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3AHsKgWRQ4

>>23068972
She already cucked king with Luca so we still have a chance brothers

>>23068733
An oblivious people would
Whoever it is, I hope she knows what she's doing to fucking incline

>>23069114
You sound like you're convinced it's going to happen but I'll believe it when I see it, Cover must know that the whole "vsinger" thing kinda sucks as an idea by this point

I'm not a big fan of Indian food but I just ordered some Cheese Pakora because of memes in this thread and it's pretty mediocre
hopefully the tandoori chicken is better or im going to be as pissed at pajeet as susan is when the anime girls are at the top of her video streams

>>23066342
>>23066488
seems to be doing pretty fine

>>23069063
New entry in the series just came out after 2 years

Fubuki is doing surprising well for a guerilla English stream out of nowhere. About the same level as her streams when she isn't playing flavor of the month games, karaoke, or ASMR.

>>23069297
Indian food is tasty but like all food it's only as good as the restaurant that prepares it

friend on her way to 6.5k, definitely unexpected wow

>>23066342
Rape correction

>>23068972
thousand year old oni in a tiny school uniform won't get gold for another 8 months...

>>23069336
Thank you anon

>>23069343
Compared with Koyori... Fubuki actually had EOP recognition from the beginning though

>>23069343
She's making the stream interesting by shifting words around and asking the chat for participation.

It's different from the usual "go through the duolingo flow" study stream.

>>23066905
Yes. But ASMR has a high replay value, she can make a "[EN/JP/ID] only ASMR" and let the VoDs carry her channel.

Ina impressively stable for about 30 mins before Gura fired up and she dropped about 500. Not sure this means anything, just an observation.

>shit week for gura
>she is moving out this one
That explains why everything felt so rushed

>>23069923
Man its been so long since we had an Ina graph without any internet hicups: Its a beautiful sight to behold.

>>23069923
I'm one of those 500
Gura singing will always be the highest priority

Gura said she’s going to be completely abscent for the coming days because she’s moving, since it wasn’t posted here. Got a whole new place with a lot more space, so more content to come for streams with that new space but the move’s gotta happen first

>>23063807
>pumping an iron lung
he sure aint clowning anymore

>>23066905
>Her mic is way too shit for that.
Idk if it's just me but I personally think that most ID have a really shit microphone

>>23070039
Did she mention how long will it take her to move?
Hopefully around a week, not like there is something important in April, she can come back fresh in May.

wheres the 20k membershrimps?

>>23069894
doesn't change that her mic is absolute garbage

and good asmr mic could be more than her yearly income.

>>23070224
Nigga is unarchived and vod views still take time to process

>>23070213
she said she was thinking of telling us sooner so i guess she's already sorted out all of the paperwork and just needs to move her stuff. for what ever reason she implied she didn't buy so shes renting

>>23070213
She said next few days but no one expected her not to have a break. So 4 minimum

>>23070213
>A few days
Best case scenario 4 days worst case a full week

>>23068972
>>23069071
>>23069456
Rindou doesn't stream that often but the few streams she had this months had decent numbers for her, mostly because she stopped streaming PLA that was numbers poison.

>>23070224
I never watch membership streams and it doesn't help that YT never ever recommends them, you almost magically have to know they're happening.

>>23070152
Interesting timing for moving, I remember she was still with her parents when she was applying for hololive but move out before debut.

https://youtu.be/Ie_JA69PuUI
Blue indog cunny too powerful

>>23070117
Extremely stable octopus destination...

>>23070152
For 3d and vr content that's a good thing

>>23070224
Calm your tits anon, if you could crack YouTubes view counter that easily we wouldn't be flinging shit at each other for years about culls

>>23070355
Koyo should show her how it's done.

>>23067281
>>23068065
>one hentai game about Fubuki
Now what the fuck, where the fuck did you find this, fucking newsground?

>>23070422
She has been living alone sinxe debut. Her only neighborhood is an old lady accorsing to her

Friend 7k and getting Ina's funnel
GO FRIEND GO

>Ina ended
>Ame still in "starting screen"
Friend got only 300 viewers from that funnel, what about everyone else?

How many EN is consider moving?
Ina talked about it, Kronii also considered moving (until latest member stream people knew the reason).
Ame got fucked multiple times finding new places.

>>23070774
(me)
Just after posting this i realised
>Ina's funnel
LOLno

Why do those girls move so often? I understand moving after your debut since your revenue has gone up and you can afford a better place but it feels like these bitches are moving every year.

>>23070795
Ina never funnels to anyone.

>>23070794
>Be a wagie and or low tier content creator
>All you can afford is a shitty one room apartment
>Get a high paying job
>Now you can afford a decent apartment
>Move
Easy

>>23070915
when a certain michael cat keeps doxxing your location you gotta stay on the move

>>23070794
>Ame, Ina, Kronii
>Same people from that karaoke off-collab before
Just fucking make an EN HoloHouse already like

>>23070794
Mumei mentioned being pissed that she might have to move again after just moving in, not sure if that's still the case though.

friend last question, she wants to watch AsaMio LOL.

>>23070915
A lot of them realize they need a very specialized location specifically accommodating to streaming, rather than just the first nicer place they could find after getting some money.

>3.9m subs "20k membershrimps"
>sub 1k likes
>sub 3k cumulative views
rumao rumao

>>23070795
Pomu got a bit of a funnel, too, I think.

>>23071117
I think Nina fucked off at some point recently.

>>23071092
natural recline

Do people actually member Gura so they can make reclining posts about made up membership numbers
What did Gura do to you people to cause this mind break?

>>23068065
>>23067281
Source?

>>23071078
The only thing I can think of is a location with better internet connection/more reliable (as much as possible at least) ISP and I would assume they thought of that during their initial move.

>>23071117
Yeah, looks like 100-150 roughly.

>>23071215
its cheap with a vpn so shitposters will member to twist info most won't be able to verify

>>23070795
Ame is doing a watchalong of a extremelt niche movie. Worse is that in ttpical ame fashio she also put the frame late

>>23071215
The bait is reclining, please undastando.

>>23071230
Also being able to stream at all hours without disturbing their neighbors, or having noises from their neighbors bleed into their streams, as Fauna found out recently.

>>23071215
Being top EN and most subbed chuuba will always make her a target for schizos and shitposters.

>>23071215
you don't need a membership to see the likes anon

>>23071156
nah, it had been several minutes since Nina finished

Pomu is getting the "literally no one else is streaming and im bored" funnel.

>>23071215
if you think this is bad heres aquas last membership vod

Fubuki ends her stream and tells everyone to go watch Asamio. Fucking cute, need more of that in Hololive.

>>23071473
the frame was up for public you retard

>>23071479
I like deliberate funnels, but retards won't be able to help themselves treating it like a twitch raid.

>>23071428
I actually used to do that until she became a cum rag for the males. Would go to her when nobody from Hololive was streaming. It's just different since the males debuted. All the appeal of NijiEN is gone.

Ina probably would have gotten more, but Watame is still streaming.
>Started streaming 9 hours ago
https://youtu.be/PjCRbjIbVw8

>>23070567
Looks like it is made by this Taiwanese.
https://han.fanbox.cc/posts/2444553

>>23071572
>>23071473
>Still thinking "return dislike" show you the "real" number
kek

>>23071576
Most people don't take umbrage with internal (same company) raids. It's when sodapoppin or someone like that raids that there's an issue I think.

Since we know that EN viewers are more culled than JPs, we also know that the streamer can see the real numbers without cull and there's been some JP members doing EOP pandering streams.
Do you think they have realized that EN are more culled?

>>23071092
Anonchama do you know what a breakthrough it would be in numberfagging if we could just know everyone's cumulative views 100% and not have to deal with 14 hours of processing? You are a huge tard if you think view source tells you the real number, literally the equivalent of an idiot posting live view count site as fact

>>23071790
The issue with it is that you know faggots will take it too seriously. For example, let's say Miko finishes up a stream and both Suisei and Haachama are streaming and she decides to raid Haachama. You know crazy schizos would hound her endlessly about why she didn't raid Suisei instead.

You really only see the talents do it when nobody else is streaming or it's a big event like a 3D Live.

LMAO RECLINING

>>23070919
Except gura

>>23071790
When HoloEN first came out, Ame used to send people over to other Holo streams and then had to stop because retards were literally spamming shit constantly.

>>23071866
Absolutely. Unironically because nijiEN can't help but bring up their measly culls as some sort of huge blow

>>23071473
>dislike in 2022

Ah okay, so he's not a member, just a retard with a link to it. And it seems he's not a regular either since he doesn't understand of respond to processing explanations.

>>23072031
Gura schizos have gotten so desperate that they are now resorting to unverifiable backdoor tactics to get numbers that could be fake. Sad.

>>23071790
It directly goes against hololive tradition of not bringing up other streamers, even holos, in chat unless the streamer does it first. This turned into a bit of a micro-yab just after EN1 debuted.

Miosha 10k get

>>23072136
I'm not even sure what he's trying to argue. First, the view count source shit is not real. Second, does he expect every member to show up? Just like with subs for public , only a fraction of your member pool shows up to member streams too. We have no data on this, I assume a way higher fraction but still never going to be anywhere near half, let alone all

>>23072136

>>23072266
>I'm not even sure what he's trying to argue.
It's schizo shit or bait, it doesn't need to make sense.

>>23072136
Best part is, her membership chat speed is faster than like 90% of streams you see.

>another case of teamates suggesting random shit to Ame and not tuning into the stream
It's actually quite easy to match the dynamic of likes under Ame's stream with the amount of VOD views she'll get, and current stream is a good candidate to become the least watched video on her channel.

>3K peak playing Tomodachi Life
Do you see, Pomu, what happens when you schedule streams with no or minimum overlap?

>>23072345
its hard to judge based on chat speed in members because they aren't affected by slow mode

>>23070795
I have to go to sleep...it's really late rn

>>23072179
Not amazing, but Pretty good numbers overall for 7am

What time is it for indogs right now? Why is Kaela streaming?

>>23072602
and 2.6k listening to Gura tell them to marry her.

>>23072761
LOOK AT MY CUTE SHARK WIFE

>>23072602
+the other side
It's NA prime time now right?
Maybe it's just the events going on because Twitch low tier numbers are abnormally high.

>>23071015
Unfortunately Ame live with a fucking Zoo so it wouldnt be possible, I dont know any person who would be into that even her plan with her bestie gura didnt work out.
She could maybe live close to the holoEN house tho.

>>23072136
>Gura schizos
It applies to every schizo, that's why they are schizos

Kaela 1k get at 6:00 am.

Her voice makes me feel things.

Gura's live watching numbers for unarchived members singing

>>23067944
>Fubuki did a Reddit post 2 days ago, then Lui did an English stream, and now Fubuki is doing an English stream....
Anon, it’s not happening until Haachama starts pandering to EOP like with every previous generation of EN

>>23072738
Monday morning 6AM
Kaela always stream during this timeslot every monday hence her stream tittle [Monday Warrior]

>>23073279
She got 1k!

Mio 12k

>>23073212
>SEA timezone
Fucking SEAnigger
Nice name btw

>>23061449
Why they would take time and resources on a hag who never took off?
They better be investing on cunny instead since, as the face of Hololive and vtubers, her model needing fix is more important that anything else.

>>23073212
You can see members stream's number?

>>23073212
Anon...your opsec reps....

>>23073212
SUB 3K SHITTER LMAO

>>23072136
using the same tactic, she gets quite less member views than luxiem

>>23073212
I'm actually wondering how big is the overlap between people membered to Gura and people coming to Ame's watchalongs.

>>23073764
does luxiem even fucking do member streams

>>23073529
kek isreal

>>23073529
>>23073814
It never ends

>>23061637
>it is not because she hates numbers but because she genuinely alienated part of her fanbase
It wasn't just her fanbase though, it was the greater "core" Hololive fanbase. In her quest for validation, it seems as though she made herself to "not be a Holo"... or to be the anti-Holo. I don't think even Matsuri got that far outside of her addiction to Apex while sucking at the game. You mentioned Bae, and it's true on that, since Bae at least seems aware of the boundaries of how "lul so randumb chaotic energy" (along with not fitting the archetype which helps), where Ollie even misread the cultural "cues" (Hololive's core fanbase, as opposed to the general streaming audience) with shit like leaving Bae alone with Roberu (irrespective how good/bad that was, it will be pinned on her).

Whatever she ends up doing, it has to involve two core things:
>avoid trend chasers
>do buff content (of her particular variety)
>make connections with the Holomembers (in particular, the girls)
Complaining about her inability to make friendships with women for whatever reason is not going to excuse her divorcing herself from the box or to try and transform it in her image because she's not popular enough to make it happen. I am sure she can find at least someone with whom she can relate in Hololive, right? Right?

>>23073821
Yeah, it's 2 hours behind Japan and Koreas and 1 h behind Taiwan and Philipinese, not hard to track.

Anyone know if the irys/moom/ollie apex collab is multi pov or just irys? Predictions?

>>23073212
>fandeads in charge of OpSec

>>23074106
Watching IRyS play FPS games is a trip. I don't know if you watched the Left 4 Dead collab but her aim is so on point that she was keeping up with Botan in headshots and was far and away the 2nd best in that regard. However, she is so bad in every other aspect of FPS games that it makes you go crazy. Absolutely 0 situational awareness and severe tunnel vision. Her Apex gameplay is similar.

>>23074151
Deadbeat, I surely mean.

>>23074106
It's apex, it's not a single pov game. And Mumei doesn't seem to be skipping her pov at all lately, she's no kronii/Ame.

>>23074106
afaik ollie always streams her apex povs

>>23074239
Kek. An unironic deadbeat seanig gura schizo that samefags his garbage. Couldn't make this shit up.

>>23074106
Mumei doesn't like streaming her POV in multiplayer FPS games so she's probably not streaming this one either.

>>23072332
>>23073973
>Who were the Sea Peoples and why were they important? Sea People, any of the groups of aggressive seafarers who invaded eastern Anatolia, Syria, Palestine, Cyprus, and Egypt toward the end of the Bronze Age, especially in the 13th century bce. They are held responsible for the destruction of old powers such as the Hittite empire.

Just switch out those old Bronze age empires with threads on /vt/ and they match up pretty well.

>>23073212
But...but...chumbuds told me Gura has over 100k members...where they are?
Captcha: GAAYV

>>23074634
Dude we can all tell you're the same guy. Whats wrong with you? Stop samefagging

>>23073212
bros, but wasn't she supposed to have 50k members?

You can see member stream's CCV???

>he replied to himself again

Mind broken schizo posting on cooldown now.

>>23074776
We don't know if it's reliable

>>23073173
>Googling stress relief shit towards an audience who expects you to play videogames
She is hag prime oh my good...i need to fertelize her eggs.

>>23074776
Chief you can't see their real public ccv, let alone member

Is there a version of holopoicat or any of the others that lets you look at what the numbers were on specific dates? Like if I wanted to see what the subcounts were like on june 30th 2020 or something.

>>23074776
public vods take up to 12 hours to verify and public ccv isn't 100% accurate either, so what makes you think the numbers for member streams are accurate.
especially when the only way to see them is through specific methods

>>23075030
https://trackholo.live/

>>23075030
Off-hand, I don't think so but you can hope and pray someone got a snapshot of a time period on archive.org of holo.poi.cat

>>23074542
Indog HoloID Chad > Indog ENshart

>>23074542
Worst part is that he GENUINELY talks to the Calli on Twitter like if she would talk back to him (like the voices in his head)

One again /#/ is at it's worst during burgerland primetime.

>>23075663
This timezone is a free-for-all of SEA, NA, SA. ESPECIALLY SA, and whatever wackass english-speaking mofos in JP+CN+TW, whereas in JP primetime it's mostly SEA+JP+CN+TW + whatever EU are free since most of NA is actually asleep during those hours.

Looks like that schizophrenia map is really accurate huh?

>>23075229
pretty good, kinda performs like a disaster for me but still

>>23075786
Ina's timeslot is the peak of /#/ in my experience, just so happens to be 3/4am for seanigs.

Isn't that roru rumao gura schizo that replies to himself the guy that said he wants vox to fuck him in the ass?

>>23076099
I think that one was the chink fujo

>>23076099
Nah, that was holonigger schizo. A genuine chink yumejo, not a deadbeat.

>>23076099
It was fingering his anus. Not full on fucking.

>>23076173 (me)
picrel

>>23076087
>3/4am for seanigs.
>Ollie discussions
That's indogs suhoor time.

>>23076247
thanks anon

>>23076247
Ah, this is why I have a deep hatred for nijiniggers

>>23075786
Do we even have any genuine jap posters here and not just the few lurkers who carrier pigeon to 5ch and matome? I know there's at least one TW anon and presumably some genuine mainlanders although I'm still pretty sure most are just larping for easy (You)s

Shark gone for a week confirmed..

>>23076635
She's gonna do a return stream though. Think of the numbers!

Sounds like Gura will also piss away her 3d debut by doing Alyx with home 3d next week

>>23076635
free nijien golds...

>>23076750
EN doesn't seem to get any return buff numbers like, ever. The concept doesn't exist like it does for JP. The one time Gura might have gotten it is if she admitted to having covid during her last 1 week sick break

>>23076751
she didn't even mention home 3d retard

>>23076926
>Well do Alyx and play with the new toys
>home 3d is an unused toy everyone keeps teasing
>she cancelled Alyx for post move to enhance the viewing experinencd
That's how I took it hence the "sounds like". You're free to think she's gonna use the space for smol 3s and I hope you are right

>>23077102
She paused Alyx because her room is too small for VR right now.
Moving to a bigger place means she'll be able to actually walk around

>>23077102
she already has access to home 3d as shown with the PW stream so its more likely about having more space

>>23076828
Most of the time 'Return buffs' need to be paired with something significant.
"Hey, I'm gone for a week, see you then" isn't that significant. The biggest ones on the JP side are things where those who were gone were gone for significant reasons, and usually for extended periods of time.
See: Miko, Marine and Kanata
Gura COULD have gotten one, but instead was so quiet on Covid that cover didn't even release a statement about her getting it ffs.

>Alyx vr and playing with new toys
lovense tip activated vibrator

>>23077163
she already mentioned playing while seated being a plus for that game, she often changes her mind though so who knows

So now it's up to Mumei to defend paralympics gold

HoloEN is dying...

gura's out of the way now
finally sana can show her true EN gold power

>>23077985
You jest but for some fucking reason debut Sana kept trying to use Gura's timeslot and getting murdered for it. One more reason she never took off I guess

>>23078128
That, and I think her limiter really just limits CCV

>>23078269
Sanas ccv is actually decent when you compare it to her horrifying 10-24k view vods

>>23077931
Ames been Kiara tier for like all of 2022. Even Sana did better than Ame today.

>>23078128
i honestly do not get what she was thinking with that since gura's usual time is 8am-10am, depending on which side of Australia she is one

>>23078401
>>23077931
nigger it's a fucking watchalong, not only is it a watchalong it's a fucking watchalong that ended