/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She’s popular

Because you can tell she's often not having fun and is forcing herself. And when people show up to your party and you express that kind of mood people get quickly turned off and just want to go home or go to another party.

>>23056619

It's simple, anon

>shitty humor, constant jokes about shrek and adam sandler to the point it's unbearable
>talks over people and makes collabs fucking hell
>although subjective, her music is arguably not that impressive. very hit or miss
>deadbeats shit on other holos constantly non-stop, and even now are shitting on Ame just to deflect all the hate Mori is getting from them
>arguably does not give a shit about her co-workers
>immediately threw away her lore

Some of these are bigger issues than others, but it roughly sums up her hate. Some things may also be missing from this compilation

>>23056957
Literally nothing wrong with her humor. Everyone has recurring jokes: Kronii's depression, Gura's feet, etc.

>>23056957
none of this warrants for 9 gorillion seething threads about her by SEAchinks

She's incredibly fake, a bad streamer, and a terrible musician that gets shilled hard by cover when half her gen can sing better than she can. Any time she shows up in a stream the quality drops dramatically and conversation turns into cringe white girl garbage and shrek. She drinks and swears and is probably fat irk. There's no redeeming quality and anyone who likes hololive should dislike Mori.

>>23056957
For me it's just her fake personality. Loud and obnoxious in a way where it's quite clearly artificial. Being cutesy and artificial is at least less annoying than that. When she chills the fuck out in some chatting streams with other members she can be okay, but you always know she's one second away from yelling at max volume into her mic like it's super funny and cool.
She's that one friend of a friend who you always have to tolerate at parties who knocks shit over, breaks your stuff, etc.

>>23056957
You forgot that condescending fake voice she uses in collabs, that shit is grating

>>23056957
If my lore was to be a God of Death, I'd play around that all the time. Literally the best lore in all of HoloEN.

>>23056619
I don't hate her, anon.
Keep in mind that before Calli, Kiara was the one that was getting a lot of shit here and it seems that people don't care about it anymore.
Most people just shit on her for the lols, only a few schizos actually care enough to make hate threads, and the normal ones that hate her, just don't watch her and move on.

>>23057041
>HER HUMOR IS FINE!!!!
https://streamable.com/e0zxuh
this isn't fucking funny. she never fucking stops. she just keeps going and has picked a fight with the chat before for calling her out on it; in the middle of a collab even. fuck off cuckbeat

>>23056619
We hate pink women here. Better get used to it, newcomer.

>>23056619
She's black

>>23056957
>god of death
>content makes everyone want to die themselves
idk man she seems to be doing a pretty good job at it

>>23057041
>Kronii's depression
>joke
Anon...

>>23057187
She wishes

>>23057224
>Gura's feet
>joke
Anon...

>>23056619
>Applied to Hololive as a joke
>Only using it to advertise her failing rap career
>Hates vtuber subculture
>Shills ecelebs
>"WITH MY FRIENDS!"
>All around cringe
>Despite all that, she's somehow popular to the point she got contracted by Universal,, and even freaking Suisei likes her

>>23057106
>She drinks and swears
Bae also drinks and nobody says anything.
Kiara, Gura and Ame swear.

>>23056619
need to update the pasta

>>23056619
for the most part, search the archives for "the whole timeline mori"
Other than that, she is just annoying and repeats the same thing over and over. every collab she is in is instantly ruined.

>>23057293
It's the loud foreigner stereotype. She plays into all the Japanese stereotypes of Americans, and they love it. Ironically I guess she does understand Japan pretty well in that negative sense despite not being fluent so to speak.
It's the same dynamic with "white monkey" jobs in China, that's the role she's playing.

>>23056957
You forgot
>Talks to every collab partner like they're a special needs child

>>23056619
how much she pushes other vtubers that I like into doing things I don't like.

>>23057301
Bae doesn't make drinking her whole personality, though. No one REALLY cares about swearing unless you're a kid or something

>>23056619
I hate the type of human she is, a dumb American bitch. But I don't usually think about dumb American bitches so the only reason she specifically gets singled out as worth publicly executing is because she's making a career shitting up my space just because she can. I don't believe in coddling whores who spit on me but she expects me to. That level of entitlement is also expressed through all her supporters like you. I want to just enjoy a board about vtubers but I can't because you faggots had to make another thread about how "Mori dindu nuffin!". Go fuck yourself.

Also, on a Japanese cultural level, I hate white monkeys and wish Japan had a little more self-respect than to actually fund these types who harm their reputation globally.

>>23057487
The funny thing is as an American I despise these people too. They reinforce these stereotypes that have nothing to do with what 99% of Americans are like. It's just wholly despicable.

>>23057127
>Oh you don't like my jokes?
>well you can just shut the fuck up and leave my chat
never mind that there are 2-4 other chats being subjected to the same garbage who literally can get away. only her chat, specifically, is important

Schizo cabal decided to waste their time hating her for nearly four months now for some yab she did and now they try to rationalize their retardness and waste of time by piling up shit towers that will reach the Heavens like Babylon.

>>23057820

>>23057324
Damn

I hate her for being a wannabe in everything she does.
She's a filthy wigger for starters.
She looks down on Vtubers as a whole.
She moved to Japan to "pursue her dreams" and in all the years she's been at Japan she hasn't bothered to learn Japanese despite her dream supposedly being "becoming a Japanese rapper" and loving "Japanese rap" so fucking much.
She's also a druggie, alcoholic and more or less a bitch.

Morí SHREK JOKE

https://youtu.be/0GtDLSOUa9o

>>23057170
I thought the other pink women were based

Mori Adam Sandler
https://youtu.be/czT5WGbJP54

Because she will be, and if not now but soon, the face of Hololive. She is globally popular. For the reasons stated ITT, many people don't agree with it. Many anons tried to boogeyman the Orange women (Coco, Kiara) since back in /jp/ as the end of Hololive, and now they miss the simpler times. At this point Mori is untouchable, so either accept it or move on.

>>23057170
not only woman apparently cats too

I fucking hate how much I like her design because it's worn on such a horrible and disgusting person.

>>23057170
>Rosemi

>>23057137
listening to her in streams makes me want to kill myself so maybe she's leaning into it pretty hard

Mori has made it her day 1 mission to make this place enemy #1. 100% serious . Just enjoy the ride basically

>>23057293
>>Despite all that, she's somehow popular to the point she got contracted by Universal,, and even freaking Suisei likes her
Every day after I wake up and remember that she was the one who got the Universal contract first over Suisei aka hard work and grind personified makes me want to kill myself out of sheer anger at the unfairness of it all.

>>23056619
callie is a jew.
see pic, it's her IRL

>>23057170
do you hate Koyori?

>>23056619
She's black.

>>23058535
She wishes she were.

>>23058181
The difference is that Coco and Kiara both have massive respect for vtuber culture (even if the former makes jokes about it) while Mori is obviously in contempt of it.

>>23058462
yea mori who uhh doesn't work hard at all lol. you people are really desperate

I've always thought Deadbeats were complete faggots and my interactions with them this weekend only confirmed that for me.

>>23058515
listen she pink, but she hag, that different

>>23058554
Pretty much. I learned to respect Kiara when I managed to understand that she actually knows her shit despite being a sperg.
>>23058592
Oh yeah tell me more about how much hard work miss I still don't know Japanese despite after living in Japan for years "to pursue my dream" when "my dream" also requires knowing Japanese.

>>23057301
>Kiara, Gura and Ame swear.
Kiara's swearing is pretty excessive, desu. ESL effect, I guess, she's said herself that she's less comfortable swearing in German.
Swearing is like taking a dump. Everyone needs to do it every now and then, but if you do it all the time, you just put people off.

I just hate how she treated Kiara, when all Kiara ever wanted was her friendship. Now that Takamori is dead and buried, and Kiara has moved on from her, suddenly Mori is aware that she hasn't been as good a friend as she could have been, and is inviting herself to see Kiara in Austria. Kiara's non-plussed response to this revelation should tell you all need to know about how she feels about this, I'm sure some kind Anon would provide the clip.

>>23058554
I 100% agree, but people chose the wrong target and now in Cover's eye, Mori is "too big to fail". I'm just talking realistically here. Now everyone is reaping what they sowed.

>>23058181
>the face of Hololive
kek I heard ton of cuckbeat copes but this one takes the cake.

>>23056619
She's a classic loud American in an Asian country.

>>23057324
what happened with the Pokemon/Gigguk stuff??

>>23056619
You know when sometimes you just don't like someone but don't necessarily konw why? Kinda like that, but with the addition of several actual reasons to hate her

>>23057187
She's actually the complete opposite

Opening these threads is like reading out of a psych journal sometimes. It's funny until it dawns on me that some of you actually believe most of the shit you spout

>>23056619
Her music's just kind of shit. For someone who's biggest influence was Japanese net rap she picked up none of the lyricism or flow.

>>23056619
Cause she's always complaining about vtubing, her own fans and her company, dismissing her own genmates and fucking up collabs and other plans in the process. It's like when you watch her you're always wondering "if you dislike what you do so much, why don't you graduate?" which, of course, she won't do because unlike her roommate's mediocre rap career, vtubing pays her bills. So she's frustrated because she would like to be an e-celeb like the TT crowd but the reality of it is that not a ton of people is interested in her without the avatar, which btw was completely wasted on her.

I think she'll go the kson route sooner than later and become a (mostly) 3D streamer.

>>23058730
Kiara started inclining (both mentally and as a streamer) the very minute she left Japan and wasn't around Mori anymore. Now everytime they talk on stream Kiara is super uninterested in her which I love because of how bad she was treated by Mori.

>>23057041
>Literally nothing wrong with her humor.

>>23058659
oh sorry she worked hard on the wrong things for you so i guess its not hard work. thats how it works right?

>>23057487
Absolutely based post. Fuck Mori, fuck deadbeats.

she hates her fans since a few of them got upset at her over some connor drama to the point she has to get so drunk all she can do is screech about shrek and adam sandler and accuse anyone who says anything against her as not "true fans" and is going to ditch hololive as soon as she thinks she's used it's influence enough to further her own rap career. Keep in mind she appeared on trash taste podcast twice as Mori and then as herself a month after her second appearance, basically doing all she can to show everyone who she is without outright saying it.

>>23058881
I'm not a deadbeat, I dont like Mori, the writing's on the wall. Who is next in line? Gura? She's basically a mascot. Susei? She kneels to Mori.

>>23059179
That's the main reason I even come to /vt/. It's fucking endless entertainment l. Just look at this thread, it is so easy to set people off and manipulate them for entertainment.

>>23056619
No one really hates her, it's just KFP who are jealous because she's more famous and more successful than Kiara.

>>23058730
>and is inviting herself to see Kiara in Austria
I'm still weirded out by this. I mean, I know all the girls are varying degrees of stupid and/or autistic, but how do you manage to be so stupid and autistic you think it's okay to spontaneously invite yourself to visit someone else's place, in the middle of a stream watched by thousands?

>>23056619
She's a druggie and a drunk that's enough reason for me to shit on her
Also her voice and wigger demeanor bothers me but not as much as the substance issue

>>23059747
If you watch mori or listen to her songs for more than a few days YouTube algorithm will just start recommending her pre hololive stuff. She didn't even finish her debut before someone recognized her voice. She doesn't need to do other stuff to connect her old work with her hololive stuff.

>>23059971
Keep telling yourself that cuckbeat, every other fanbase hates mori, except Kronies because they are gay for anyone.

>>23059971
Easy to test, post a Mori pic or ask for a Mori collab in any of the EN splits, watch they burn you alive.

>>23059641
>D-Doesn't count!
I accept your concession.
Mori's "hard work" is what is expected from her role as a Vtuber. She's doing her JOB. Are you gonna fellate her for doing what everyone else is also doing? For doing the bare minimum of what she's supposed to do?
>wrong things for me
No. The wrong things FOR HERSELF.
If someone says they wanna do or be X but you see absolutely no effort from their part to chase and reach that X then it goes without saying that your opinion of that person will be lowered since they're all talk and no walk.

>>23056619
Nobody needs a reason to dislike anybody. Nobody needs a reason to like anybody.

Plenty of people like Mori very much. Plenty of people don’t like Mori very much. Get over it.

She is not entitled to anybody’s love and approval. I hate her. I don’t need a reason. I hate you. I don’t need a reason for that either.

What you are entitled to, deadbeat, is cope & seethe.

>>23059452
>>I think she'll go the kson route sooner than later and become a (mostly) 3D streamer.
Sadly, I don't think that's happening any soon. You don't bail out of a contract with Universal just like that.

>>23060037
She’s self centered. Simple explanation.

>>23057293
>Hates vtuber subculture
Based

Also, 5%

I didn't like the Shrek jokes and she told me to fuck off.
https://files.catbox.moe/lq4d3e.mp4

I’m always glad to see more IPs active in the Mori anti threads than in deadbeat general.

I swear that nowadays Mori's getting carried by her design than even Gura.

>>23056619
>everyone here
anon it's the same half dozen people samefagging all day long

>>23060314
>Are you gonna fellate her for doing what everyone else is also doing? For doing the bare minimum of what she's supposed to do?
what the fuck are you talking about? she's nearly put out more songs since she joined than the entire rest of her company combined. its not like this is something thats up for debate, you can see the output of her work and quantify it. you guys are such fucking weirdos about this shit, just say you don't like her, don't make stuff up

>>23056619
She defends a friend even though they talk some shit on her company and then people made it out like she hates Hololive and was fuckin' the guy but like clearly her friend can have different opinion like you can be friends with someone who doesn't like who you work for and like it and like she doesn't have to agree with him which I doubt she does but like it her friend why won't she defend them, if anything she real one for doing that.

>>23060719
SEA…

>>23056619
Fuck off tourist

Kara > Morii

>>23056619
>Mori collabs with Trash Taste
https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ
https://youtu.be/h5QspNrKphM
>guy from TT, Connor, says on Ironmouse's stream that people in hololive are popular not because of their talent but because of the brand
https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4
>time passes, Mori mentions TT a significant amount the last few months
>a longtime member in Moris member stream says she shouldn't associate with them
https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png
>Mori insults her members and lies that Connor personally apologised to every holoEN member
https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4
>"we speak to each other quite a bit, um, as friends", laughing nervously after
>someone asks Kiara about this, Kiara says she isn't in contact with anyone from Trash Taste
https://streamable.com/5a8uq2
>Mori then donates 50 subs to Connor on her new Twitch account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM
>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html
>Mori announces that she won't read superchats anymore without management reading them first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM
>keeps talking about the drama on stream
>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on
>deadbeats in her comment section are upset about all of this
>everyone moves on
>days later she suddenly replies to and compliments a 6 day old Twitter post from a dedicated anti account of an MSpaint edit of her getting fucked by Connor, while her fans watch crying, insinuating her fans are cucks
http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
>Redditors notice this and post it to the hololive subreddit
>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/
https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png
>she gets downvoted and they shame her for her actions
>someone asks why she did it, she admits she's drunk
https://files.catbox.moe/z2z0mm.jpeg
>deletes everything, apologises on twitter, announces break but then says she's high on lean on her corporate, public twitter account, and then tries to damage control by saying she didn't know what it meant
https://web.archive.org/web/20220124193835/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
>later, begins collabing with holo members again but it's painfully clear she isn't interested and is faking her enthusiasm, the entire terraria stream is an example
https://youtu.be/8ZiNmfUCEt4
>goes out of her way to put "with my FRIENDS" on her Terraria collab, and again "ft FRIENDS" in the title of Surgeon Simulator collab, when she's never done so
https://files.catbox.moe/minblk.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/u1ufzu.jpeg
>still won't stop mentioning TT
https://youtu.be/Zm_Q5yLdgas

>>23060634
Mori was always getting carried by her design. More specifically, the reason she blew up in the first place was the novelty value of "omg whoa, a BIG TIDDY ANIME GIRL, but get this, she's also RAPPING?!?!? Haha that's so WACKY and FRESH, I subscribe!" and that she spams music which is easily shareable content

>>23058382
Kek

>>23056619
self centered autistic wigger whore

Honestly I hope that the whole Universal sponsorship or whatever is a success for her...
I would prefer her being 3x more successful than now, IF it means that with 100% certainty no more interaction with my oshi and HoloEN members that I watch is guaranteed

>>23060627
>Israel

>>23056619
HATED??? she was most popular girl on /b/ last night.

>>23056619
She hates Hololive. That is not a rrat; her roommate made an entire song basically all but outright admitting to it. Nobody wants a lecherous person among the other grateful girls. That's pretty much it. Everything else is just a consequence of this.

>>23059821
>Mascot
Holy cope, cuckbeat. You see the graph going around that Cover uses to fish sponsors? Let me tell you, it's not Mori's YT stats, cuck. Where's your 1-1 figure during the biggest Holo concert? You get one win with the Universal contract and suddenly your wigger became the face of hololive (which btw multiple Niji two-views also have)

>>23056619
Aside from not fitting in with hololive at all, and being extremely annoying and self centered in ways other anons have described.
The bitch doesnt fucking CARE about Hololive.
I'll never understand how she got away with that tweet after holofes about how she "used to think idols were all fake bullshit" but NOW she "understands" and loves it.
Yeah thanks for admitting that for the last year you didnt respect the careers of your senpais that paved the fucking way for where you are now even though you got rich off of their efforts to be "Idols" a concept you can barely hold back your disdain for.
Bitch took months to even learn the JPs names.
How many clips are there of her getting basic information that every fan knows about hololive blatantly wrong.
Compare this to the other Myth girls who were clearly HUGE fans of hololive before they joined.
Mori couldn't even name a JP she wanted to collab with when asked once, She said fucking Rene.

>>23059452
Kson has spent more time with her avatar than not (like ratio of 9 to 1) since getting it.

>>23056619
I think she struggles a lot with the whole vtubing thing and that along with some bad moments and choices has put a target on her back for people here. I think she would rather be a streamer than a vtuber but this is the hand she's been dealt and has found success in it so it would be dumb of her to quit.

She's pretty different from most of the talents in Hololive, which is a double edged sword. She has a ton of subscribers and brings in an audience that might not have watched Hololive otherwise, which looks good on paper. The problem is that audience consists of ironic weebs who just think it's hilarious that the anime girl is cursing and talking about Adam Sandler. The contrast of her personality vs the rest of Hololive also tends to make collabs really awkward, making it easy for antis to argue that she's "ruining" things. Basically she's like Coco, a black sheep that doesn't quite fit in despite her popularity.

>>23061596
>I'll never understand how she got away with that tweet after holofes about how she "used to think idols were all fake bullshit" but NOW she "understands" and loves it
I'll translate it for you: I was jealous seeing how all these no-talent "idol" bitches got endless money thrown at them from their loser simps. Now that I'M in their position I "finally understand" (how good it feels to be akasupa-bukkaked just for wiggling your anime tits on screen), teehee!

It's funny before drama shit, I remember most this board like her or just didn't care enough to shit on her lol.

>>23061819
She did have a resurgence in popularity here with the jump king streams but that quickly plummeted with the Connor drama.

>>23061596
Cover is honestly pretty lenient if you don't cross the red lines of corporate obligations. You can shit talk the fans all you want, just don't badmouth China, or break contracts. Coco did nothing wrong, but she did piss off big stakeholders, which is a no-no in business. Likewise Rushia was even more warranted for getting shitcanned, she's like the one case where a vtuber who got fired was totally in the wrong and deserved it.
To get fired Calli would basically have to go on TT and on-air leak private Hololive chats & doxx members.

>>23061888
Connor ''drama'' just prove this whole board have same mindset as crazy Japanese idolfags.....you guys could've been different but nooo...fuckin' hell.

Also probably a big reason JP members don't seem to care is they LITERALLY DON'T KNOW. Most JP members, despite the memes and pandering know almost no english. Clippers generally won't promote clips making Hololive talents look bad aggressively, so I doubt most JP members know the most awful stuff Calli said, or the context.
If you go and read the JP comments on translated clips the gulf in knowledge about EN talents is pretty obvious. They think Ame is seiso. Gura is just a cute mascot to them, literally nothing else registers. The Taiwanese audience is considerably more based--probably because there is a lot more grasp of english over there. They like Ame specifically BECAUSE she's not seiso, and there's a ton of Taiwanese channel dedicated to just clipping Ame for her personality.

>>23062004
This board idolizes japanese schizos even more than the actual idols. They salivate at the thought of obsessing over online women and calling them whores if they step out of line.

>>23061665
Because her japanese viewers are based and don't like her 3D streams, they know that without the avatar she is just an E-girl

>>23062004
What Connor said was objectively correct (if half-true, the reality is that yes Hololive talents start off only being popular for the brand and would have no exposure without it, but often have skills and ability that make them long-term sustainable, hence why they were hired, and not some other random), but the problem was Calli not realizing she's working a fucking job. It had nothing to do with Connor, or the correctness of his statement. Hell, I'd imagine most Hololive viewers already would agree with his statement, at least partially.
Imagine being a mid-level employee at Google, and publicly agreeing over and over with someone who is badmouthing your company. You just don't do that, even if they are correct and you agree with them privately. Either she's never held a real job before, or she just completely shit the bed here. I suspect she just got too comfortable and thought this was like streaming independently, which it isn't. She's working for a company, shitting on it publicly is a problem.

>>23060634
When I saw her design, I fell in love. I heard her voice and her personality, I went from love to like. I saw the absolute fucking dumb shit she did, I am now an anti. It's even worse because I look at her design, I still love it but I'm reminded of her being shitty and it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth

the truth is that she's the only one to face off against the hate from /here/ this directly and for some people that was the first time they got attention from someone famous
so they latched onto it hard, and create big cope excuses to rationalize their behavior (like the 'she doesn't care for Hololive!' or 'she is trying to kill idol culture')
it then becomes a closed loop of her giving attention to shitposts and inspiring more shitposts to be made

>>23057106
>probably

>>23062221
The problem with Connor's statement is its bluntness and how easy to misconstrue it is, especially given the context of the conversation. It was just so easy to infer he was simply shittalking Hololive and even Ironmouse became uncomfortable when he said it.
I think it was very short sighted on his part given that the brunt of the backlash was never going to be on him but on the vtubers he orbits. It's like he was begging people to harass Mori just by being associated to him.

>>23056619
I don't hate her, she be like a lot more likeable if she wasn't a wigger but I think she alright usually pretty chill person but I also wish she just acted more like her normal self and not play up the memes cuz she way more likeable when she just causally talking like the streams with Gura, actually find her less annoying than Watson like dumb high school girl personality and voice and Kiara....just being well Kiara. She kinda reminds me of Joel from Vinesauce in she doesn't stop playing up the memes where it gets annoying sometimes but thing is Joel memes are actually funny.

>>23062326
did connor ever follow up talking about it?

>>23062326
He doesn't work for the company. He's not obligated to give a shit. I actually agree with him 100% and find his honesty refreshing as someone who watches a ton of vtubers. The issue was never him, it was how Calli handled it. There was nothing stopping her from distancing herself publically and being pals privately, as most people would do in that situation, but clearly she was obsessed with being seen to publicly be associated with that crowd.

>>23056619
her attitude, she acts above it all even though shed be nothing without hololive

>>23062507
He is not legally obligated to do anything, but it is very clear he put people he is supposedly friends with in uncomfortable spots. The thing is that he could have said the same thing with enough tact as to not seem to imply he was calling hololivers talentless. He basically forced mori into a lose lose situation.

>>23057353
>>23056957
I finally saw her Gura colab where they were supposed to play Cup Head, but forgot that Cup Head is local multiplayer only and didn't know or want to setup Steam Remoteplay so they settled on Phasmophobia and Mori's tone throughout it was degrading. Mori also disabled comments on the VOD
https://youtu.be/sbo8zS8otzQ

>>23062297
>the only one to face off against the hate from /here/
>Who is Sana, Who is Kiara, Who is Mumei, Who is Kronii
roru
rumao

>>23062753
Even worse that there's a lot more holos that get hate too. Ayame is one big target here but people just don't bother anymore

>>23057166
Why the fuck did she mention Adam Sandler? What does Adam Sandler have to do with anything happening on screen?

>>23062753
the deadbeat thinks she is some brave hero facing off against some ravenous storm of antis when in reality she's just another dumb white bitch online who cant take criticism and is unable to deal with trolls

>>23062753
none of them really respond to it, which proves my point
actually, Sana gave a general 'fuck you' to haters and that shit was reposted for a solid couple of months and had people calling for her graduation
so it only makes sense Calli butting heads openly with shit said here, multiple times, would have people hooked even harder

>>23060575
Deserved

>>23062753
and which one of these responded to it like a dumbass the way mori did

>>23062663
I dunno, the way I look at it is he is not (mostly) playing a persona, whereas his vtuber "friends" (I doubt they are really that close of friends, compared to some of his older, much longer-standing Youtuber friends) are playing a persona publically. He is himself on video speaking as a person, whereas the vtubers are a fun-house of mirrors and lies, it seems a bit much to me to ask him as a person to cover for their personas.

>>23056713
>Nope.
She’s gaining weights
She’s drunkard
She’s retard
She’s Karen ofc,
Who’s her manager Jchoke?
Should 12 year olds swear?
Kiara ruined her in the first place
What’s next?

a talent publicly acknowledging a negative response inevitably leads to forming a group of people eager to milk it for as big of a hate train as possible
tearing successful people down just feels good

>>23062955
pic related

>>23056619
>she a wigger

she kills anything shes a part of so I cant say she plays her character poorly

>>23063086
I don't think he needs to cover for anyone. The problem I think was in the context of the conversation with Ironmouse.
Anybody sane knows that hololive vtubers get a huge brand associated boost and instant access to a massive audience that has been made for them. The problem is that the framing of the conversation and his tone made it seem like he was saying Hololive talents dont need to be talented to be popular. That is already kinda bad, but his words could also be interpreted as saying that hololivers are carried by their brand and have little to not individual worth.
He could have said what he said in a different way to not give the impression that this is what he meant but as you say he was relaxed and sort of fraternizing with Ironmouse over making banter about the vtuber industry. It's just unfortunate that Mori caught all the brunt of the backlash for it. Although it is true that she should have been firmer in showing that she completely disagreed with Connor and asked for either an apology or clarification.

>ITT: screaming into the void.

2 million subs. Universal contract. Hard superchat and CCV incline. Keep seething.

>>23063611
Her success just encourages people to seethe harder.

>>23056619
>Shitty music
>Shitty forced interactions
>Lies constantly and has been caught multiple times doing so
>Has zero real personality
Yeah why not hate her

>>23063611
Being successful doesn't make you immune to criticism. I acknowledge that Mori's career is on the incline, and I do enjoy some of her content, but that doesn't absolve her of the mistakes she has made.

>>23063122
>She’s gaining weights
All that fat went to her tits, that's not a bad thing.

>>23057487
holy fucking based. this board will be against cali and all deadbeats until the day shes done

>>23063813
Have you seen her IRL, it goes to her face

>>23063776
for the most part, the reasons she is successful go in direct contradiction with the justifications for the hate
so in a way it does absolve her by showing most of them are forced bs

>>23063611
Having a contract for making shitty music as her vtuber identity makes her seeth harder than any body in this thread cuckbeats know this as a fact

>>23059821
lmao u dumb shit how many sponsors or brands do you see her being the face of despite signing with universal? its close to zero. you say your not a deadbeat but you sure as hell dont watch hololive

>>23063902
Her face looks fine, just looks like a regular white woman and I'm the one that posted the coomer meme....she doesn't have perfect super model body so it's bad.

>>23056619
Speaking for myself: I don't hate her. But she tends to be too loud and overbearing in collabs and when my oshi is involved that's a problem.

A few examples:
- She's very loud and interrupts the others.
- She often derails the conversation to a stupid topic like Shrek, jojo, or sandler.
- She almost never plays along. If everyone agrees to talk in ASMR voice she starts talking loudly and with a troll voice.

I don't think she's a bad person. But she's a bit spoiled. Everyone seems to worship her and she looks like someone who never had the need to play along and play well with others. She's a "my way or the highway" kind of person. And in the music that's exactly what gets you popular if you're lucky or puts you in the ditch if/when your luck runs out. At some point your IQ will be tested and I guess we'll see the real Calli when that happens.

>>23056619
If you haven't figured out why some people don't like her by now after 2years then bruh whatever right or wrong answer your looking for you will never get.

>>23057041
Kronii's depression was markedly unfunny.

>>23060676
i hate the hoshiyomis on this board but you misspelt suisei and is clearly a cuckbeat who have not checked watame either. why are deadbeats so stupid

>>23064035
Only thing different about her I notice is she looks tired as shit...which you would be too and her tits look lot bigger then the only other picture I seen where their noticeable but she normal size, not fat not skinny just normal but baggy clothes make her look bigger then she is.

>>23057106
> Probably
Anon your RM reps...

>>23062004
>this whole board have same mindset as crazy Japanese idolfags....
Good.
If you don't have that mindset you should fuck off and kill yourself.

>>23056619
She’s fat

>>23064148
God she looks so fuckin' tired not even funny, like go the fuck to bed.

>>23063451
Connor's right but that the kind of shit you don't say in public.
But the biggest issue is, as it has been mentioned many times, you don't hang out in public with the fag who shittalked your whole organization and career. It's just a bad look all over.

>>23061457
Keep downplaying how important she is to Cover's current plans. It'a obvious that a lot of Hololive fans here dont agree with that direction, but that doesnt mean it's not true. I don't know why that is so hard to accept? Or do you agree with Hololives current direction, whatever you think that is? As for Gura, unfortunately, hates the spotlight, she'll never be the true face unless she changes.

I love Mori, can anons hate me too, so I can live with her in your head rent free?

>>23063902
>>23064035
>>23064148
it doesn't matter what you think because all the hololive jp who have seen her thinks she is fat because they measure her with the asian standards they just don't say it and love kiara irl more

>>23064281
connors opinion was based on mori lmao

>>23056957
>shitty humor
gura: le feet, le lightning mcqueen, chumjar xd
kronii: I'm depressed
mumei: I forgor, :D
bae: bruh
ina: hikimori snoozefest
kiara: what is humor?
ame: your mum lel
fauna: an actual comedian and the only funny hololive
irys: lewdjokes slut

>music taste
all jpop is trash don't kid yourself
all hololive music is trite weebshit

>deadbeats shit on other holos
every fanbase does this

>doesn't give a shit about co-workers
projecting

>immediately threw away her lore
false

>>23064333
Kiara too fuckin skinny and looks has goofy ass teeth and big jew nose.

>>23064370
holy based

>>23062928
Watch streams

>>23058462
Being signed to universal only means two things:

- She brings the masses.
- She sold her SOVL.

Neither is a measure of quality or hard work. Calli is the japanglish rapper, she's the only one who does it consistently and that brings numbers because no one else does it.

It's not a matter of how good you are but how unique and consistent (marketable) you are.

And the one thing she claimed to defend about her music (SOVL) will be gone now. Expect more alcoholism and bland but consistent music.

>>23064389

>>23064281
Mori obviously acted without thinking purely in response to the fan outrage, but I do think it's hard to fault her for that since giving the antis an inch means they will take a mile. She should have just ignored the outrage rather than try to shut the antis down.

>>23064002
It's not about what is has happened, it's about Cover throwing all their backing to her at this moment. They seem all in.

>>23064370
Which just makes Mori all the more pathetic when you think about it. She's being shittalked to her face and yet she still desperately wants to keep being "friends" with that group of people.
>>23062067
Nips lack the cultural understanding to see where Calli's actions can lead. To them, they're minor faults at worst and lol so wacky quirks at best, not major rifts that threaten the entirety of Hololive.

>>23064389
doesn't matter because at least she can dress like a decent human being and not a goth shut in with a beer belly she had to resort to hurr durr baggy clothes fashion

>>23063611
And yet you still seethe at people seething at her.

>>23064484
anons judging other's personal appearance has to be peak meme

>>23064484
Calli wears those clothes cuz she doesn't want dudes looking at her massive milkers all the time, have you not seen her new pic where their noticeable?!? Imagine being a chick and that all dudes be looking at on you, it would get old.

>>23064558
>Texan girl
>afraid of men
Yeah I'm calling bullshit on that, the only thing she's afraid of is her dumptruck ass suffocating the entire population of Japan when she walks down the street

>>23064558
She like 2nd biggest one,Noel being the biggest and Coco 3rd.

>>23064458
The worst thing is that Mori is old enough, and has spent time on such communities, to know she shouldn't feed the trolls and yet she goes towards them with 5 course meal each time without missing a beat.
She should know better and yet she acts like a zoomer who's just starting to use the internet.

Shes just terrible in collabs.
In Gura's VR twister collab she refused to even participate and instead just planted herself on the twister board while the others where still playing.
Basically the only she thing she did was lay around and complain how tired she was.

>>23064558
you obviously haven't lived in an asian country anon and I know that I can't prove that I have but I can tell you that the asians definition of attractive hot blondes with milkers is not calli shes just straight out fat to them

>>23064607
Calli barely has an ass lol.

>>23064558
>Fatty thinking people are looking at her because they want to fuck her rather than out of disgust at her volume
Many such cases.

>>23064615
It's called being a white woman anon, she never learns because she doesn't have to

>>23064379
I like how most people don't even bother to mention Sana at this point

>>23064661
Yeah cuz Asian niggas nuts, remember fuckin calling Kpop girls like this fat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTPZ9Y4lA3E

>>23064460
u called her the face of hololive ill give you one (you) to fix that before i even bother wasting my time on try to explain the difference between business decisions to optimize revenue and actually representation of a company.

>Okayu fat is completely ok
>Calli a little bit chubby maybe bad
??????

>>23064833

This, but unironically

>>23057301
bae drinks. lamy drinks. you know what sets them apart from the brapper about drinking? they aren't doing it with the sole intention of getting drunk. lamy, in particular, is a booze snob.
calliope has, in front of her coworkers, admitted she's taken to drinking hard liquor straight from the bottle purely to get shitfaced. that is absolutely not healthy.
>>23058592
it's interesting how (you) went from "this other person is basically grind in human form" to "CLEARLY YOU ARE SAYING MY FAVORITE DOESN'T WORK HARD". faggots like you are trying much too hard to whiteknight, that you're going full don quixote at statements that weren't made.
>>23058730
>>23059452
the whole thing with chimkin is a microcosm of calliope's existence, it feels like. whatever good comes along she's so hell bent on aiming for "cred" with her expat buddies and generally being a self-involved twat that she pushes it away and only later realizes what she's lost.
will she find a way to piss away the universal thing too? will she be the next to selfdestruct, via getting drunk off her ass while hanging out with her expat buddies and end up breaking her NDA like cover claims rushia did? only time will tell.
>>23060037
if you look, it's how she handles everything she wants from others in hololive. she always drops the "and I'm gonna do ____" on people in circumstances where it'd be a problem to turn her down so she can have what she wants. like that collab with bae and others where she was like "yeah we should do this again sometime" and they're like "yeah, totally" and then she's like "and I'mma invite (person nobody else here knows) next time, too" once they agreed to collab at all, so they'd be the ones to look bad for going "now hold on a minute". I kinda wish kiara had flat out told her to not show up because she wasn't going to have time/space for a guest at that point or something, because someone needs to finally stonewall that routine. that kind of pushy "why yes naturally I make all the decisions around here" shit is top grade rude, much like the condescending way she talks to collab partners.
>>23060676
look who's talking about making shit up.
>>23060719
>a real friend will defend you no matter what you do wrong
no, a bad friend is the one that encourages you to be a douche. a good friend calls you out on it.
>>23061909
>Coco did nothing wrong, but she did piss off big stakeholders, which is a no-no in business.
[things that did not happen]
are (you) still convincing yourself she got fired when she quit on her own?
>>23062004
>no no NO you're just made because MALE! I will ignore every single well thought out and worded explanation that indicates that the problem is not WHO said something but WHAT they said, because it makes it easy for me to disregard things that I find inconvenient!
kill yourself.
>>23062221
>What Connor said was objectively correct
horseshit.
>>23062326
>It was just so easy to infer he was simply shittalking Hololive
which is what he was doing, faggot.
>>23062507
>There was nothing stopping her from distancing herself publically and being pals privately, as most people would do in that situation, but clearly she was obsessed with being seen to publicly be associated with that crowd.
this. and that's all that was even asked of her by the superchat that got her on her tirade of lying for him and telling off a longtime member.
>>23062663
he was in the wrong. she's also in the wrong for the fact she insistently whiteknights for him about it. you're not going to make this all him, because she's still responsible for her own choices.
>>23062959
mind you, the faggots who wanted sana to graduate for telling them off already wanted her to graduate for existing. and they also tried to paint her singling them out as her addressing EVERYONE, because they're schizo faggots.

>>23064745
Isn't it just Asian version of negging

>>23064745
doesnt matter. suisei and most jp girls think she is fat and judges her appearance and at the very least don't like how she looks. that's a win for me.

>>23064379
single biggest cuckbeat cope bestowed upon my eyes during my lifetime. seethe

She fine when she's just singing.
But like most singers, she's a terrible actor, and she seems to think vtubing is like acting, and that people will cut out the dumb shit she says and that she has multiple tries when it comes to trying to make jokes land.

>>23064894

wtf

>>23064894
Based

>>23064894
Holy BASED autist

>>23064894
based schizoid

>>23063611
>if it's makkng money it means it's good

Typical midwit simp

She needs to hit the gym

>>23064833
>Okayu is liked by everyone
>Gaijin who makes everything awkward and about herself
?????

God dammit anons, you just gave Mori more inspiration for her next song! Stop the thread!!!

>>23056619
Dude I’m shitposting.
I don’t have to explain shit.
You thought I actually disliked her?

Her haters are unironically her biggest fans, like even deadbeats aren't this into her.

>>23065108
t. no one ever

>>23064822
I said she will be, sooner or later, at this point. Mostly due to her incline and unconditional backing. I hope Im wrong but I was just answering OPs question. Basically, people hate her because she keeps getting popular despite everything she's done wrong.

>>23065077
Love song for connor when

>>23065308
>japanese company
>face of company to be amurican who raps as much as she curses and roommate face is all over youtube
anon i gave you a chance

>>23064379
I'm not saying that these holos are funny, but you clearly don't even watch any of them, anon.

>>23057159
I don't shit on her for the lols, I genuinely hate her
but I also don't make hate threads
because it's literally not worth my time

>>23060037
That's typical Mori behavior. Here's her tricking Irys into accepting a vshojo collab.
https://streamable.com/p8mhh2
Just forcing people in situations where they can't say no.

>>23062928
she named her ER character adam sandler and made him look liek him as well.

>>23065680
Fucking based.

>>23064894
based. what the fuck is up with all these newfag deadbeats not sticking to their general?

>>23056619
She's a white girl that idolizes black american 'culture'

>>23056619
/vt/ has a lot of brain damage in it's userbase.

Just gotta do the classic musician thing of getting caught with drugs, that's super career suicide in Japan.

I would like an anon to post one good thing mori has done.

>>23066587
it's true. deadbeats brought the average iq down of the entire platform down to hell. the only thing keeping us above single digits is the tokino sora anons

>>23066641
She prevented Sana from being in Myth

Loud and obnoxious.
Pretends to be black, but comes off very cringey.
Bad rapping / cringe music.
Looks like silent bob.

>>23064894
Were you by any chance raped in the sizzling hot summer of 92?

>>23066763
>Looks like Silent Bob

>>23065056
>Okayu is liked by everyone
The gravel voiced Japanese Rosie O'Donnell wannabe that rides Korones coattails?

>>23064071
>She almost never plays along.
I hate it so much

>>23064458
Thats the thing with Mori, she would do anything to (at least in her opinion) to own the haters, just like what she did with the week old cuckbeat tweet

>>23064615
What you would expect from a /mu/ poster.

>>23056619
Shitting on kiara/takamori
5% meme
condom money for connor yab
uses her corporate mascot account to prop up her private life friends
any time her manager is gone, she talks shit about hololive/her fans
freaked out after rushia graduated, had universal music group buy out part of her contract so she cannot be terminated for violating covercorp contract

>>23056619
I think one aspect is because she expresses enjoyment from rap music, which 4chan views as degenerate and culture destroying

>>23064894
holy based schizos

>>23066733
But Sana's dog wouldn't be dead on debut and she would have inclined.

>>23063611
That contract is desperation, she doesn't want cover to just terminate her

>>23057199
kek

>>23066621
It occurs to me, where is she on the timetable for "musical artists dying [by suicide] at 27"?
Maybe she'll get herself a bad mix of drunk and lean and hit her head on the corner of a desk, bleeding out unconscious over a period of days before jchad finally shows up to find out she literally ghosted everyone.

>>23065540
Then you are one of the normal ones, anon, hope you have a good day.

>>23064894
HOLY SHIT FARTSHARTBRAPS BTFO

>just starting to read this channel
Back to your discord tranny

>>23064745
There were a few cows in there but most of them were just chunky. Society would be better if we got back to a time when this was considered the limit of acceptability.

>>23067656
>normal ones
>literally had to chime in in a hate split to remind everyone how badly he hates her
he really isn't, lol

>>23063611
>Mori is the Marvel midwit flypaper of vtubing
Uh, good for her.

>>23056619
>everyone
A handful of niggerfaggots.

>>23056619
I just want more pictures of her rm tits.

>>23064894
>calliope has, in front of her coworkers, admitted she's taken to drinking hard liquor straight from the bottle purely to get shitfaced.
Based, doing it right.
> faggots like you are trying much too hard to whiteknight, that you're going full don quixote at statements that weren't made.
As opposed to /vt/ at large black knighting at rrats?
>whatever good comes along she's so hell bent on aiming for "cred" with her expat buddies and generally being a self-involved twat that she pushes it away and only later realizes what she's lost.
So the anger is she has friends and distanced herself from someone who attempted to sabotage her on stream?
>will she find a way to piss away the universal thing too? will she be the next to selfdestruct, via getting drunk off her ass while hanging out with her expat buddies and end up breaking her NDA like cover claims rushia did? only time will tell.
Will she be the next to succeed in views, revenue generation, expanding the brand? Will she do a raw blink on harikari rock? What is the point if retarded what ifs?
>that kind of pushy "why yes naturally I make all the decisions around here" shit is top grade rude, much like the condescending way she talks to collab partners.
Suggesting things isnt rude you retard, and its only autists who think that somehow saying "I would like to do thing with multiple people" removes any right of anyone else to say no.
>no, a bad friend is the one that encourages you to be a douche. a good friend calls you out on it.
/vt/ sure is full of bad friends then.
>Coco did nothing wrong, but she did piss off big stakeholders, which is a no-no in business.
>no no NO you're just made because MALE! I will ignore every single well thought out and worded explanation that indicates that the problem is not WHO said something but WHAT they said, because it makes it easy for me to disregard things that I find inconvenient!
Where was anything here well worded, much less true?
>kill yourself.
I'd say for you to as well but I'm not convinced you have the level of brain activity to be considered as alive.
>What Connor said was objectively correct
>It was just so easy to infer he was simply shittalking Hololive
Only on 4chan is saying "this popular thing will make people who join it popular" shittalk
>this. and that's all that was even asked of her by the superchat that got her on her tirade of lying for him and telling off a longtime member.
I don't know how you translate that from "Here's condom money", must be a regional dialect.
>he was in the wrong. she's also in the wrong for the fact she insistently whiteknights for him about it. you're not going to make this all him, because she's still responsible for her own choices.
Oh, she's in the wrong then because she doesn't agree with the /vt/ hivemind, then.
>mind you, the faggots who wanted sana to graduate for telling them off already wanted her to graduate for existing. and they also tried to paint her singling them out as her addressing EVERYONE, because they're schizo faggots.
Like how /vt/ wants mori to graduate because she isn't a cookie cutter boring cunt like 90% of the hololive roster? We're just going to go to that level of stringing words together for no reason?

>>23067435
Which is funny because of how badly 4chan culture was destroyed by most of those same people.

>>23067765
I don't expect everyone to love a certain member, haters are bound to happen. But one thing is to say you hate someone, and another is to write pages of fanfics on why you hate someone. Half of the things in this thread that people accuse her of are either partially true, fabricated or literal conspiracy theory bullshit.
They've been going at this for months now, you'd think they would get tired.

>>23056619
/vt/ is Jim Cornette and Mori is Kenny Omega.

>>23068306
Who's Vince Russo?

>>23068569
The "manager" named Omega, oddly enough.

>>23056619
Because she's BASED (she said the N word few years ago).

>>23064894
A good friend will definitely defend you from internet outrage driven by bad faith external observers who only had a fraction of the whole story and a vested interest in making all parties involved seem as bad as possible. That is not the same thing as sheltering somebody from criticism.

>>23068060
>Based, doing it right.
alcoholism good! retarded deadbeat
>As opposed to /vt/ at large black knighting at rrats?
would rather much have this place have any form of discussion that isnt just the standard hololive hugbox bullshit you find anywhere else
>So the anger is she has friends and distanced herself from someone who attempted to sabotage her on stream?
imagine actually believing kiara is the one sabotaging after countless streams showing how hard she tries to get anything of substance out of mori.
>Suggesting things isnt rude you retard, and its only autists who think that somehow saying "I would like to do thing with multiple people" removes any right of anyone else to say no.
the problem is she isn't suggesting, it's that she is pushy about getting what she wants. big difference between offering and inviting someone to doing something vs trying to coax them into doing it
>/vt/ sure is full of bad friends then.
okay? do you think this is a fucking dating site?
>Where was anything here well worded, much less true?
what wasn't true? the dude was pointing out how people who defend connor always retort to the argument that "you're a unicorn who hates males" when the problem lies within connor and the dumb shit he's said about hololive. there is a reason why people got way more upset over connor than gigguk.
>Only on 4chan is saying "this popular thing will make people who join it popular" shittalk
you're free to leave at anytime, deadbeat
>I don't know how you translate that from "Here's condom money", must be a regional dialect.
the "condom money for connor" superchat is not what was being referenced. if you spent anytime actually researching the situation you'd know that before that there was a members superchat politely asking her to "shy away from acknowledging people who have openly spoken negatively about hololive talents on stream." people are upset because she basically told the member, who was just requesting that she doesnt mention someone who shit talks who coworkers and "HER FRIENDS!!!" that he should get the fuck out and he cant control who she's friends with, even though he was just asking for her not to mention him.
>Oh, she's in the wrong then because she doesn't agree with the /vt/ hivemind, then.
??? she's in the wrong because she tells her fans to go fuck themselves for daring to insinuate that she should not be constantly mentioning someone who talks shit about her friends and the company that pulled her out of the gutter and made her successful.
>Like how /vt/ wants mori to graduate because she isn't a cookie cutter boring cunt like 90% of the hololive roster? We're just going to go to that level of stringing words together for no reason?
you can't be this retarded. see >>23057324
if you want to know why most people here hate mori.

>>23064379
is this the power of threadreading?

>>23069582
Antis do so much work and try to deflect from the fact that their opinions are worthless and the worst, most career killing shit mori could do is listen to what people say here.

>>23058462
Suisei would never sign to a big label like Universal in the first place, retard

>>23069990
>most career killing shit mori could do is listen to what people say here.
it's a good thing she does then

>>23070237
Holy cope?

>>23070282
She hasn't killed herself yet

>>23070310
No, she specifically said that. MGO is signed as a duet to a label, but Suisei is still independent

>>23070488
Good for her then.

>>23069582
>would rather much have this place have any form of discussion that isnt just the standard hololive hugbox bullshit you find anywhere else
So standard holohate hugbox bullshit, got it.

>imagine actually believing kiara is the one sabotaging after countless streams showing how hard she tries to get anything of substance out of mori.
Maybe she should try to get substance out of her own streams first instead of saying retarded shit to tey and clown on others
>the problem is she isn't suggesting, it's that she is pushy about getting what she wants. big difference between offering and inviting someone to doing something vs trying to coax them into doing it
And every example used is a suggestion to anyone who has had human interaction before
>okay? do you think this is a fucking dating site?
No but it also proves that nothing said here holds substance.
>what wasn't true? the dude was pointing out how people who defend connor always retort to the argument that "you're a unicorn who hates males" when the problem lies within connor and the dumb shit he's said about hololive. there is a reason why people got way more upset over connor than gigguk.
The entire opening argument of that entire rrat is a bad faith interpretation of pretty basic english.
>you're free to leave at anytime, deadbeat
Nice argument, maybe you should next laud how you've been here since 2016?
>the "condom money for connor" superchat is not what was being referenced. if you spent anytime actually researching the situation you'd know that before that there was a members superchat politely asking her to "shy away from acknowledging people who have openly spoken negatively about hololive talents on stream." people are upset because she basically told the member, who was just requesting that she doesnt mention someone who shit talks who coworkers and "HER FRIENDS!!!" that he should get the fuck out and he cant control who she's friends with, even though he was just asking for her not to mention him.
Oh, that one strongly worded one that was in no way polite whatsoever and instead was insisting that Mori only stick to the preapproved list of friends. I didn't think anyone was stupid enough to be referencing that one with the wording used.
>??? she's in the wrong because she tells her fans to go fuck themselves for daring to insinuate that she should not be constantly mentioning someone who talks shit about her friends and the company that pulled her out of the gutter and made her successful.
If anything, insinuating that Cover pulled her out of the gutter and made her successful proves Connor right. So which is it?
>you can't be this retarded. see >>23057324
>if you want to know why most people here hate mori.
Damm, that's a lot of words for having so little substance to them. Happen to have a version with shit that actually happened it's said?

>>23057324
/thread

>>23058462
i personally don't believe suisei would want to be tied to a label like that. mori seems to want to establish whatever music related connections she can, as her own music career is what is most important to her. suisei seems to want to stick purely with herself and hololive. she's not attached to MGO the same way mori is now attached to universal. i bet she could get signed if she pushed for it, but she values her own independence and her position in hololive much more than mori does.

>>23071005
Suisei fought to enter Hololive as Suisei, so it's very clear that she would want to keep that identity hers.

The more I think about it, the more I really wish Coco was around to make fun of Mori for making Shrek and Adam Sandler jokes on Asacoco.

>>23056619
I personally dont hate Calli, but she is very selfish, rude and cruel to the other girls. She basically treats them like sidekicks more than friends. Always speaks over them insults things they like and more. Also her sense of humor is often obnoxious. I can see why people dont like her, she's pretty inconsiderate and a pretty shitty friend overall. You can tell the other girls aside from gura and Bae see her as more of a co worker now than a friend with the way shes treated them all.

>>23060037
I just checked out the clip, it's not that bad. She didn't invite herself to like chill at Kiara's place for a week, it was just like "I'm near your place, so I wanna visit you".
That's a VERY normal thing to do with friends, even casual ones. She even said she was planning to mention it off-stream. I guess they don't talk that often though.

260 replies on the same stale bait every single week, how the fuck do you fags do it? How do you keep repeating the exact same shit for months without end?

>>23070926
>So standard holohate hugbox bullshit, got it.
only some nijis and deadbeats hate hololive on this board
>Maybe she should try to get substance out of her own streams first instead of saying retarded shit to tey and clown on others
please stop pulling shit out of your ass and provide one example of this to go against the countless examples of mori doing this to others
>And every example used is a suggestion to anyone who has had human interaction before
irrelevant to the argument at this point
>No but it also proves that nothing said here holds substance.
ok then dont get heated and start replying to anything on this board like you keep doing. view it as a spectacle nobody will stop you.
>Oh, that one strongly worded one that was in no way polite whatsoever and instead was insisting that Mori only stick to the preapproved list of friends. I didn't think anyone was stupid enough to be referencing that one with the wording used.
"no way polite." you belittle others for not understanding "basic human interaction" and yet you believe that THIS (picrel) is rude.
>If anything, insinuating that Cover pulled her out of the gutter and made her successful proves Connor right. So which is it?
honestly, i personally never really cared for the take connor made. he's somewhat correct, to an extent. if anything his take on nene being in that beauty magazine was more atrocious. the issue lies in that many people DID take offense to it, and her trying to lie and say that connor "apologized" does insinuate that there is ample reason to take offense to it. her handling of the situation was the issue, not the take itself.
>Damm, that's a lot of words for having so little substance to them. Happen to have a version with shit that actually happened it's said?
homie, there's literally links and evidence on that image that you're free to go check out at anytime if you doubt the authenticity of the list.

>>23056619
>>23056957
It's like one or two egg schizos, kind of like how Kiara had them early on. There's a discord group full of fags who are always looking for the "weak link" in HoloEN. Just ignore bait threads and council bait threads because they are the same people with similar patterns.

>>23071518
Literally schizophrenia. I wouldn't be surprised if they've gaslighted themselves into having a Mori voice in their head now.

>>23065680
Who does this?

She's most popular member on this board if you look at all threads, half have her picture.

>>23071518
Honestly Mori hate threads distract retards from shitting on other girls and/or shitting up the generals.

>>23072385
>5 pictures of her
>Everyone else is just 1 picture besides Ame and Miko who has 2.

>>23061324
The fuck?

>>23072746
>Missed out on Tributebeat the other night.

>>23072746
Check the archives for /vt/ mori threads and you'll know also most likely need to check archives for B too.

>>23071480
what possible reason would mori have to be in austria besides visiting kiara?
>hey its ya boi I'm in the area let me crash at your place uninvited
>oh you can't accomodate me? well that's pretty shitty of you friend, I shelled out some big benjies to come see ya, why you gotta do me like that? it aint easy getting back into japan ya know
>but sure I'll just crash in a hotel, no big deal, I just wanted to see muh freind
mori only functions because she trades on everyone else being more professional and emotionally mature than she is

>>23072957
The /b/ thread on page 155 1st and the /vt/ Calli thread on page 23, 5th post.

>>23074161
LMAO Tell me you haven't even seen the moment you're talking about without saying it directly.

Wasn't it around the same time that Kiara was already having other holo visitors?

>>23056619
She's my girlfriend and they're just jelous

Mori haters haven't worked out yet that the constant threads about her only encourage more people to check her out and boosting her followers even more.

>>23057127
Yeah I hate that so fucking much, like she's talking to a five yearold or something

>>23058515
Koyori is such a cutie she doesn't count

>>23075347
That's what they want because they think everyone will arrive at the same conclusion and hate her...you can tell how that works. Especially when they set the bar so low and breed rrats that she's some kind of instantly unlikable bitch, then people looking her up find some sweet dork.
But anyone can also find antis on Twitter and see what kind of people they are.

>>23056619
She's a wigger, and not even a good one. She unironically thought "lean" meant "alcohol" and that using the term for a drug was some new age thing.

>>23056619
Terrible at interacting with others and tries way to hard to emulate the totally cool people she wants to be like. She's the type of person the song "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World Ruined a Whole Generation of Women" is about. She is seriously doing everything she can to become a body double for Billie Eilish. Alcoholism, fluffing out with a female beer gut, brash cursing for no reason, she's been fast tracking her physical downward spiral to the wall.

>>23076219
>'s the type of person the song "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World Ruined a Whole Generation of Women" is about.
>He doesn't know about past Watson.

>>23076326
>Watson so amazing at adapting you can't even tell there was a past Watson

>>23064740
Who?

>>23076435
Yeah cuz she fake in her streams lul.

>>23064740
What the fuck is a sana?
Did you mean to type sauna?

>>23076326
Watson is an insufferable bitch that is like a female wingsofredemption and only fun to watch her spergouts. She shoots herself in the foot because she's a dumb cunt, but Mori is a constant and fresh supply of new trashfires fueled by her alcoholic-addled mind making her impulsively make bad decisions as opposed to Watsons pissy sober attitude and hort um-tum :(

>>23076591
>professionalism is fake

>>23076219
>She's the type of person the song "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World Ruined a Whole Generation of Women" is about.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Wiggers aren't Ramona Flowers.

Didn’t it start with the connor stuff? Or was it pushing for more outside collabs?

>>23076780
I don't know why people like her, she acts like those girls everyone hated and made fun of in high school like she acts like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwDdisn34hU

>>23076797
You can be professional and not fake look at most of /JP/ like Korone acts how she most likely acts off stream too.

Why are you watching a cringe wigger dude

>>23056619
any human with a working brain and not a pozzed npc will find her cringe under a minute then close the stream

>>23076993
>likes rap
>so no line in a nonrap diss track could ever be relatable
"She's an alcoholic loser bitch that likes to listen to shitty music" is a line tailor made for her. You stupid dumb head. Think before you post next time you silly willy.

>>23056619
She is sololive but more abrasive about it, Kira was the same but realized it and improved, Mori got worse
she is also addicted to the spotlight even even she have nothing to add, this is because she use the same mental auto pilot during collab as solo content.
She works hard and acts like her fame is all due to her own effort and not thanks to the JP girls, luckily the JP girls adore her so she almost absolved from that one
There is also the trash taste thing, but I never watched TT or Connor so il leave that to someone else

>>23077108
it's baffling someone who basically got a Twitch thot personality is loved here.

>>23056619
It’s just a joke anon. No sane person would simply just hate an anime woman and Express it every day. haha

>>23056619
She interacted with a guy and that shit doesn't fly here

Welcome to mental gymnastics, the thread.

>>23077831
I like shitting on Mori but keeping up with the latest drama about her is exhausting

>>23077393
J-rap isn't white trash music, dumbass.

>>23077885
I thought hololive was very anti-drama or suppressive of drama, where idols will go on vacations to avoid drama or be suspended, etc. Why is this not so for HololiveEN?

>>23076993
>Conceited with low self-esteem
reddit post saying just let me have fun yet constantly talks about getting bullied.
>thinks communism is the way to go...Retarded views on politics
pl has entire songs dedicated to tranny shit and wouldnt surprise me that she sympathizes with far left shit due to-
>Likes to listen to shitty music...And felt so empowered By a movie made In pedowood...Thirty years old, but acts like she's sixteen Likes to go to shows 'cause she's so fucking cool
Her numerous appearances and proclivities to mention people that also feel the need to use their elevated position in their retarded metropolitan fake influence to talk about woke shit.
The sex stuff is unknown so can't be related to her but a good rest of the portion of the song including the above is 110% Mori.

>>23077968
Who said it was you double dumbass? The lean getting ahead of your posts and making your fingers move before you mind can catch up again?

>>23078060
I don't speak Japanese, but I do speak English.

>>23078271
We've found him boys, the source of all hololive EN drama

>>23078192
>pl has entire songs
One song, and it was a cover of a japanese song. It also wasn't tranny shit, trannies just self-inserted on that song because muh relatable
>Woke shit
PL and Mori never liked the cancel crowd as far back as 2014.

Her genre of choice is j-rap you fucking nigger. That's the music she listens to.

>>23078475
the "cancel crowd" is not a political leaning you dumb fucking ape. And once again, for the third time, no one ever said j-rap was or wasn't her music of choice. Why do you keep repeating this like it means anything?

>>23078642
Where does the "shitty music" come into play? It's not the white trash soulless beat music the song in question was referencing to. "cancel crowd" is a more specific way to address SJWs, a group of woke-shit that predated election tourists that stayed to shit up internet spaces.

>>23057324
>didn't put TTGL as her favorite show because "it wouldn't fit her character"
What did she put in at first?

>>23064607
>He doesn't know

>>23064607
>he doesn't know that mori is a rape survivor

>>23078475
Where does one find a woman actually into j-rap? There must be like 12 on planet Earth

>>23079452
WHAT!?

>>23078854
Because underground jrap is shit. Deal with it. And her roomates dealings and support for vapid ecelebs and real celebs that vocally talk about woke shit yet never the other way around tells her own opinions.

>>23079452
dyrbi?

>>23070926
Holy deadcuck cope batman, you really shouldn’t be telling on yourself like this

>>23061411
Link to the song on her garbage EP so I can listen?

>>23056619
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0
watch her coco collab. at least for me, i started hating her from that stream

>>23062297
This thread was orange from Kiara anti threads for fucking months until moris shitfest season 2 what the fuck are you on about newfag

>>23079565
>Stays silent and doesn't participate with the wokeshit
>That means she's agreeing with them by not explicitly saying against it
Go take your culture war elsewhere you fucking faggot. SJWs and election tourists ruin everything my making sure it's always about their specific brand of politics and act like everything that disagrees with them is an existential threat.

>>23079777
Just literally google her name. It's the 4 latest songs. Listen to it yourself instead of letting thread readers form your opinions for you.

>>23079452
She was thirst posting her tits and ass not too long ago like every other western slut, but I could actually believe it if it happened in the last few years in her time in japan. But if the claim is it's any time before then I'm calling bullshit.

>>23079896
I'm not the one that made a song about troon gashes, deadcuck. Get mad at the lean queen if you have an issue with sjw shit.

>>23064894
Holy based

>>23056619

>>23080186
>only ever posted one pic showing off her tits
you're lying and I know because I love her tits and want more

>>23080410
Sounds like someone who has only been on /b/.

>>23080480
Oh if she saw it now....>>23072871

>>23080259
Nigger it was an english cover of a japanese vocaloid song. Vocaloid songs can be degenerate as fuck and that didn't stop holos from covering them. Here's the original you fucking faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9FJXfGHtDA
Lyrics
https://vocaloidlyrics.fandom.com/wiki/%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A3%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3_(Villain)

>>23080474
Looking right now anon and I'm counting at 5 total attention whore pics. 3 of titties, 1 ass, and 1 full body.

>>23078475
>It also wasn't tranny shit, trannies just self-inserted on that song because muh relatable
it is and you can even see her interpretation of it in the description of the cover. or listen to the podcast.

being pro trans is extremely based and cool of her, sorry 4chan election tourists

>>23080897
You might need some extra eyes. You mind sharing a link with the rest of the class? For investigation, of course.

>>23081135
what he said maybe do it on different board to not upset jannies just say which one.

I hated her because I thought she just wasn't trying hard enough, then watched her rm streams and realized this is actually her trying and all the stuff I get mad at are just her running through coping mechanisms of being way in over her head. Also probably why she comes off so bad, she's mentally and emotionally drained almost every day and stuck between can't be bothered and it's her contract. The Universal thing is gonna bite her in the ass because she's knows she's a 1 trick pony but couldn't pass it up the opportunity, and she knows it. It's like she's on the reverse timeline of Kiara who started off cringe but her hard work won over a lot of haters.

>>23081068
Both of you fuckers ruined my homeboard. Can't get a decent discussion anymore without descending to leftypol and nu-/pol/ bullshitry.

>>23081325
there is not hard work kiara gain over her haters, they just moved on to mori and kfp latched on to that to say she is being loved again

>>23081402
I was a hater. Even hated ID branch. Then EN2 and ID2/3 debuted and realized we actually had it pretty good.

>>23056619
If this doesn't make you smile just stop watching Mori or collabs with her in it.

>>23081730
Shrek would never cheat on Fiona. Mori is a fake fan.

>>23081378
sorry u were offended that someone covered a song u didnt like. it must be hard for you

>>23069535
If Mori says "Black Lives don't matter" on stream I will kneel, until then she's fake and gay

>>23082316
Hello, /pol/, that would likely get her graduated. But you're so far in your own bubble I guess you don't realize that.

>>23082316
If Mori says "Lean drinkers don't matter" on stream I will kneel

>>23082506
would it though? i think she could get away with it, like gura could definitely get away with saying nigger

>>23081914
It wasn't a tranny song? Not everything must neatly fit your specific worldview. The Japanese lived experience and whatever uuuuh mental struggles they face does not have a 1:1 conversion to whatever western society have. (you), and the faggot I was arguing with are too eurocentric and assume everything MUST be like you.

>>23082570
No, only Japanese vtubers like Sakura Miko can because she "doesn't understand the profoundly negative historical context surrounding that word and is not part of the oppressing parties and said it in pure innocence"

>>23082730
the guy has literally confirmed thats what its about, what more do you want

>>23082770
migo just said "nigga", not the n word
there is literaly nothing offensive about "nigga"
wake me up when one of them actually says the nigger word

>>23082770
on god my man, you talk like you came straight from reddit

>>23083508
It was literally about literal faggots, not trannies. Trannies love to make everything about them even if it's unrelated.

>>23083684
Think about why the silly part of that is in quotes

>>23083728
Being a tranny is their very indentity. They can't help it. Without the tranny status they have no personality or are unique in any way.

>>23083858
They can get world records speed running obscure video games no one has played in 30 years

>>23083902
Even speedrunning isn't exclusive to trannies, like... well you'll have to trust me on this one desu i've got no source