/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I miss my boyfriend.

Hey guys since we're gonna die, does anyone have links to downloads of the kusogaki talk or whatever those were called. They looked funny

I still hate buta

>>23033441
>no tweets since March 7
>other members not in contact with him while on hiatus
He's dead.

So the Tsun threads have turn into another Niji Holo retards tournament.

>>23033489
Ep 2
https://mega.nz/file/yDhD1QIR#eXKbF3VMbETbT_AucGzQ2Zctr4g6yasjXISkkqkBTao

Ep 1 stayed up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GgYEHHXRzg

AAaaahhh fuck I still can't cope

https://twitter.com/chikafujilisa/status/1518115256609910784
I come from /pcg/ bearing one of our most sacred messages
Hug Lisa

Kallin isn't coming back.
Orla is going to do the graduation stream and then run off with all the donation money.
Hanabi is going to quit, there's no reason she would stay.
PPP will not hire any more staff.
The rest of the talents will be let go in September.

>>23033617
Nah this is /pcg/ stomping grounds while they salivate over the prospect of Lisa.

>>23033735
What makes me mad is that now Lisa can pretend like she knew that this was going down and that's why she was sucking the fishman's dick so hard and not because she was just using Tsunderia as a stepping stone.

Well I guess there goes the company

>he bought the merch?

I'm sorry for you anons, but they're going indie right? Is it really that bad? Seems like they're going to be free with no company cut.

>>23033773
Mad? Sounds like a smart girl. If that's really what she's doing, I like her even more.

>>23033925
>those shipping costs for basic ass acrylic stands and badges
>higher costs than most other corpos for the same type of merch
nobody bought the merch

>>23034017
I made the post, but I...

>>23034045
do you live in CA?
this shit was $40+ outside of NA

https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1515243924599848960
https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1518058982769934336
Everyone on the inside has known about this ever since Urara left.

>>23034081
I'm a west coaster yeah

>>23034081
That's pretty much why I didn't touch any Niji merch. Shipping from there is silly. I can understand you.

>>23033412
Hey uhh
Thanks for the free food. We'll be sure to treat your chuubas with the best marinade
t. /meat/

Wonder what miori gonna do now

>>23034090
I thought something like this was possible when Ura left but I wanted to huff the best quality copium I could. I knew the attachment the staff had to Ura but wanted to believe.

>>23034136
Milk it as an indie for a while and then settle down with one of her top whales.

>>23034136
finally have sex
and probably be disappointed that it's nothing like the doujins

>>23034090
that first one was a shitpost because she reads the thread and that's all we were talking about in there that day
>poach this
>poach that
>/poach connect general/
>fishman please save X
>picrel

>>23034118
you don't know pain
large corpo merch only ships with EMS and they've suspended shipping to my country since kung flu started
I have to use a forwarder and pay 2 shipping costs, usually wait 3 months more than average just to get shit
and now there's a chance I can't even get any shipping done thanks to Ukraine
fucking living in 3rd world Europe countries

>Friday, 10 PM EST, Urara disappears.
>Friday, 10 PM EST, Char leaves.
>Saturday, 10 PM EST, All of Gen 1 and 2 (lets be fair, Hanabi is out) is let go.
So, Friday or Saturday next week, 10 EST, Purin's graduation announcement?

I'm going to save Purin

>>23034221

>>23034246
I can't see Purin wanting to stay now. The whole reason she got in was Kana and the whole reason she stayed was Ura and then Orla. She really has no reason now as much as it pains me to say.

>>23034221
When Yuuna shipped my merch to Singapore, it came in a week. Maybe they should just eat the cost on shipping to raise sales

>>23034090
>hoping for the best teehee
Someone take one for the team.

>>23034302
Pretty much. It'll only be Tsundream until they can finally walk away.

how long until we can go back to hornyposting

>>23034540
Do you enjoy necrophilia?

Lisa closed her marshmallows cause of hate messages due to the graduations, going to have to use google forms now to submit songs

>>23034612
Tsunderia really should have written a better statement than "Wow, what a surprise. Please don't ask any questions".

>>23034612
Do you think Sakana was paying them per maro or per hour?

>>23034246
Purin and or Hanabi most likely. Possibly Tsundream will have something worked out since their contracts aren't ending until around August.

>Have years of experience in Entertainment and management
>Sent PPP my resume when Urara graduated
>Heard nothing at all
That should tell you where this company is going

>>23034813
Everyone knows. Purin and Hanabi just too nonexistent to leave now. Tsundream is tied to contracts otherwise they would be out too. Lisa is already sucking up to Sakana

didn't Purin got her house completely obliterated by a severe storm just a few months ago? What even is the point of her new PC?

>>23034889
So when do current contracts run out? 1yr past debut or?

>>23034965
Her house somehow only took minor damage. It was the farm that got completely wiped out.
She got a new PC? Well, she's not going to stop streaming. Purin is literally her household's only income with the farm gone.
>>23035040
One year from signing. The signed on two or three months before debut. Which is why everyone is saying August.

>>23035116
don't they still own the land of that farm? If they do, shell be fine

>>23035166
Yeah. I guess instead of "gone" I should have said something like "with the farm not producing anything at the moment".

ami post!
this news is very worrying

>>23035719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuT_BLIYviY&t=14273s

>>23033617

Just woke up.
Somebody please give me a quick rundown of what's happened and why, I'm too shocked to read the thread and a half that I missed.

>>23035903
Tsunquest and Tsunverse (Hanabi is MIA but we all know what will happen) is leaving Tsunderia. Only Purin and Tsundream is left. This probably won't last for long.

>>23035903
https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1518047073676972032
Gen 1 and 2 are going indie.
Why? The company is on the death spiral.

>>23035781
AHHHHHHHHH
this lolihagmamaoppaispiderweebmusicgamer woman is too much for me

>>23035903
Say yout goodbyes. Good luck supporting this thread on just Tsundream as well.

>>23035939
god damn, why couldn't it be vshojo or calli

>>23036001
Half of vshojo doesn't stream as it is.

>>23035938
>>23035939
I get that part but has there been any indication as to what the fuck has been happening behind the scenes to cause this? Everything seemed like it was going well and now the entire company has all but collapsed in less than a month.

>>23035903
https://youtu.be/ys8TrommbdA

>>23036086
>what the fuck has been happening behind the scenes to cause this?
Nothing. And that's the problem.
Anytime there's an issue, nothing is done.
Anytime there's momentum to capitalize on, nothing is done.
One of your managers tells you they're quitting long in advance? Do nothing.

We're long past the point where everyone is fed up and just ready to be done with the company, as nothing will continue to be done.

>>23036086
Maybe once Tsunderia is shuttered one of the former talents will tell us what exactly happened and when. For now all we can really tell is mismanagement. Both while Slugma was there that she couldn't completely compensate for and now especially that she is gone.

>>23036186
>One of your managers tells you they're quitting long in advance? Do nothing.

Here's my (entirely plausible) rrat.
>Char decides to quit. Offers to stay on long enough to train her replacement.
>PPP informs the staff that there will be no replacement.
>Urara begs and begs PPP to hire somebody. She can't keep managing the company entirely by herself.
>PPP hires no one.
>Urara throws down an ultimatum: Hire a new manager by the time Char quits, or I quit.
>PPP... does nothing!
>Urara quits just like she said she would, effective immediately.

>>23035978
TsunDream was the only professional generation they had. As far as I'm concerned, they just trimmed the fat

>>23036341
>Kazu
>Tomo
>Nen
>professional

>>23036341
I like Kazu and Nen get kinda weird vibes from Tomo sometimes can't really explain it but their fairly low numbers and Ami's and Lisa's decent numbers aren't gunna carry the company.

>>23036424
My gut reacted pretty strongly to Tomo.

>>23036424
>spoiler
Another anon described it as "You ever met a guy who you didn't like, but didn't know why? Then found out he murdered someone later?"

>>23036312
I didn't want to say it before, but it kind of feels like PPP just didn't like Urara much. The tonal difference between Urara's resignation announcement and Char's was extremely weird.

>>23036440
>>23036449
Glad I'm not the only one who felt off by him. I don't hate him or anything but something about him just feels disingenuous or off.
>>23036539
Ura wanted to rock the boat and actually change things. Char seemed more than happy to go along with whatever PPP wanted or to just not rock the boat.

The End of Tsunderia...
https://youtu.be/6kguaGI7aZg

>like Holo
>get filtered to Niji
>get filtered to small corpo
>about to get filtered to indies
>inevitable for me to be filtered out of vtubing entirely
Wild.

>>23036341
Profesionalism isn't gonna save this company, especially when it's previous members and the more successful ones build it on unprofessionalism.

This was a lay off.
Kallin, Meru, and Gen 2 don't make money.
Yuuna had a contract that was more in her favor to make it worth signing on.
Miori had become worth more than the whole rest of the company combined. There wasn't anything left to offer her to keep her on.
This isn't a graduation. This is a mass firing.

>>23036341
You need a decent amount of members to survive on this board. Certain threads already had to be bumped a lot through dead hours. Less members means more dead hours.

if anything happens to the spooder I'm gonna fuck up a bitch
t. /vrt/

>>23036949
I don't know bro. The Miori Yuuna trip and Meru ramping up the doomposting to 11 in the month leading up to now kinda makes me wonder.

>>23037001
Ami obviously loves what she's doing. If there's anyone in Tsundream who's 100% going to just become indie and continue as if nothing happened when their contract expires then it's her.

These generals won't last long fellow anons. So just stepping up to say that I hope Lisa ends up in the Phase Invaders

>>23037110
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1T-sGC37XHE

>>23037110
It would probably be the best for her anyways. Everyone else is probably just gonna go indie or quit altogether.

>Mio asks input for members only drawing stream
>Just draws a lot of her mutuals first

What was the point of that member stream? Beerpals have it rough

what are the rrats

>>23037349

>>23037349
Here comes a boomer saying
>like rrats deserting a sinking ship

>>23037296
That's how they like it though, they will accept anything she does as long as they get more drunk stream and "accidental" GFE.

>>23037296
The first ones she drew off stream were almost all regular beerpals, at least.

>>23036539
Could Urara have written her own graduation announcement, and thus affected by her own emotions on the subject (i.e. merely perfunctory and not trying to sugarcoat) while Char's was written by someone still employed by PPP (if not Jack himself as signed) so it comes off as "lighter"?

>Never heard of Tsunderia before
>Found Amiya 3 days ago because of the Nijisanji mashup track she was a part of
>Been watching all her vods and streams over the past couple of days
>Find out that the company is now going up in flames
I'm cursed.
I won't be a grief thief though. Sorry to all you guys who have been here for way longer, this has got to be a hard blow, don't off yourselves or anything though...

Military grade super hopium rrat:
>Ura left because she knew she was carrying the company's management on her back, but didn't have enough freedom to make the changes the company really needed, as PPP was still ultimately in charge and they were constantly butting heads
>PPP vetoing the rebrand project and generally having no respect for her was the final straw
>The reason Ura was barely active for months before she officially resigned and has gone radio silent now is because she's been secretly working on starting her own group with blackjack and hookers
>All of the remaining talents have seen the writing on the wall for Tsunderia without Ura and don't want to stay under PPP, so they all decided to leave en masse (Tsundream will follow once their contracts are up)
>Purin is staying behind as a double agent for the slug to ensure that Tsunderia collapses completely and utterly so that the new one can immediately supplant it; her final stream will just be her spilling the beans, plugging the new company, and calling PPP stuuuupid
>All of the graduates will join Slugderia along with new hires Shimada Tiger, Seiryu Komatsu, Nina Saotome, Kirihime Ria, and Kizuna Ai
>This was The Plan™ all along
Did you rike it?

>>23037087
I love this spider hag and will follow her if Ami ever goes indie

>>23038016
You had me until 2nd last line

>>23038218
Eat your hamburgers, anon.

>>23034140
>I thought something like this was possible when Ura left but I wanted to huff the best quality copium I could. I knew the attachment the staff had to Ura but wanted to believe.
I mean, look at it from the other side.
It proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Slugma was competent and beloved by ALL.

>>23036341
>professional
Lisa and Amiya. The rest are a mess.

I don't even understand why I'm so saddened by this, considering everyone will still be around and will probably stay friends with each other. Even if/when TsunDream leave it's unlikely they're just going to disappear either. Maybe it's just the affirmation of how fragile the small corpo ecosystem is that's making me worried for the future of everyone else that I like.

>>23038357
Beloved? Definitely
Competent? Debatable

>>23038016
Nina was all but earmarked for CL before Misaki & Lumi peaced out. If she doesn't hear back from her Holo application (which is likely because Omegalul is a retard) she'll probably stay indie in perpetuity.

>>23038475
What exactly dictates “professional”?

>>23033617
time to pick up the scraps

>>23038651
>eu
>ever getting into hololive
Lul

I'm getting tired of all the small companies I like keep being incompetent or involved with drama.
I think I'll just find an indie or quit watching vtubers

the rrat king knew...she knew all along that this would happen

>>23039062
>expecting indies to be competent and free of drama
shiggy

Maybe intentionally making Orla ugly wasn't such a great idea after all.

>>23039179
stop watching it is then
>>23039222
why even give her that new model like 2weeks ago

>>23039179
D-do you only watch shitty indies or something?

>>23039338
Indies who aren't shitty or unstable end up in companies.

If anything bad happens to Ami I will lay waste to all who have wronged her before razing myself so I don't have to deal with the pain.

>>23041001
I accidentally got her pregnant, I'm sorry anon

Is Lisa the most cursed vtuber ever? Has anyone had it worse?

>>23041092
Just wait till you hear about Purin

I miss Mio

>>23041121
Didn't Purin at least have paypigs, before she drove them off?

>>23041001
She'll be fine...probably.
She'll be able to make it as an independent. I just hope she gets to keep her model.

>>23041001
Don't worry, she has a boyfriend who will still protect her

>>23033412
>▼Generation 1
>

>This collab was so much fun!
>We have to do it again some time!

What's more likely the company dissolving now or when gen 3 contracts end?
From a businesses stand point it would make sense to wait to get some of your investment back

i wanted urara to continue as an indie

>>23041310

>>23041481
what investment?
they did nothing to promote them or help them in any way
just hand them the models and hope everything works

>>23041667
Financial investment retard

Is anyone willing to own up to sending mean maros to Lisa? I've been trying to send her cute ones and I'm afraid I creeped her out.

>>23041808
I'm bored so a fun rrat is it could be /pcg/ false flag considering how bad they want her
Realistically it's not anyone here and it's probably the non /here/ fans

Stop bumping this dead corpo general

>>23041808
I've only sent one maro in my life.

I'm honestly not that torn up about the mass graduation considering they'll all ostensibly still be streaming. If half of the talents have decided to leave in the space of a month (most of them with immediate effect) then the only conclusion to be drawn is that Tsunderia itself is completely fucking rotten to the core and this was the best thing for them to do.
I just really don't want the community that built up around the company to die. I have no love for Tsunderia as a brand, but I love all of the talents and I love these threads. Even if there's no official connection between half of them anymore (soon to be all of them) and we have to come up with a stupid new name like /tsunNEO/ or /cpukmymohntlka/ or /slugma+/, I want to keep shitposting about these neat chuubas with you guys.

>>23041808
me, I've been sending her the incestposting made here

>>23042007
I nominate /slug/

>>23042081
Did you come from the Pippa collabs?

>>23042007
Nothing is stopping a dead company from having a thread. Nothing has to change.

>>23042138
no, I just came

>>23042117
/tsun+/ would be best so people still find the thread

What will happen to tsunderia now?

>>23042321
dead just like Hanabi

>>23042321
depends how much PPP cares.
If he wants to keep the company he would now have to hire staff, promote the remaining talents, and become personally hands on to gain some semblance of trust and competence.
Company is now operating on basically one gen so he would also need to start working on a new gen as well.
If we see no talk or promotion of the talents the company will probably be shuttered when gen3 contracts end

NijiEN is dead to me.
Tsunderia is literally dead.
HoloEN is a borefest.

All I have left are indies and JP. It's like the past 2 years were meaningless...
Cookieswirl, please save us from these stagnating times.

>>23039664
lmao

>>23042488
doesn't Cookieswirl stream for babies?
Yeah I love that HoloEN was so boring I went to Tsunderia and Cyberlive and both blew up

>>23042608
>>23042674
Dead to me.

need to remove some friends like moon jelly and nijikr from op

>>23042752
PPP, quit posting here

>>23036086
The most that talents have shared about PPP is how he leaves fan mail sitting in the PO Box for months and how he livestreams opening YuGiOh card packs. I've never heard anyone talk about PPP securing a business deal, or giving advice or direction to talent. Ria said she was left on her own for months when he was assigned as her manager. Slugma did a couple of streams developing her rebrand project idea, but wasn't super confident it would get past "upper management".

You can start to read the absenteeism between the lines.

>>23042321
At this point it's just a question of what order things happen in;
>Tsunderia shuts down and all of the remaining talents are let go
>All of the remaining talents quit and Tsunderia shuts down
I don't expect we'll have to wait very long to find out which it is.

>>23043169
I knew PPP couldn't be trusted when it came out that he didn't want to hire Orla.

>>23043169
>he leaves fan mail sitting in the PO Box for months
This. I sent something to Kallin that was sitting there for about 2 months before Yuuna went there and got the stuff sent out

Prism anon here, I just hope the graduates and the remaining girls can still remain friends with our girls. I started watching Tsunderia because of the collabs, and I unironically liked the how well the two got along. I'd hate to see this general die too.

>>23043185
Since it seems everyone is free to become an indie with the same model, what'll probably happen is the people from Tsunderia will become a group similar to Hanamori, just a group of indies that gather together as friends and stream together frequently. If they come up with their own name we can rename this thread to that and continue on as usual, if not then we'll come up with something.

>>23043185
>remaining talents quit
Breaking a contract is a retarded move

>>23042117
>>23042007
/tsunQUEST/
/tsunquestverse/

>>23043478
They'll quit once their contracts are up. Which should be any moment now. YES! YES!

>>23043513
their contract is a year long so you still have a couple months

>>23034017
Anon shipping was 4 dollars

>>23043369
Death is inevitable.

You all need to send a strong message if you want to get an answer from PPP himself.
Cancel all merch, memberships and anything money related until he gives us a damn good answer to why this all happened.

>>23043600
It's time to move on.

Reminder that both Kallin and Meru have been talking about money problems for the last couple weeks. Why suddenly needing 2nd or 3rd jobs in short notice? To buy out their models.

Orla won't have that problem because she's old with savings already and Miori and Yuuna already earn a lot on their own.
Hanabi might need to do a donothon when she comes back to buy hers out. Rainytown citizens, get your wallets ready.

>>23043579
mine was like 15 to get it to the midwest so I said fuck it and didn't buy anything

>>23042962
remove friends of former tsunderia vtubers since they aren't connected to tsunderia anymore
that's a good idea
less clutter

>>23043386
KALLIN MERU YUUNA MIORI ORLA I KNOW YOU'RE /HERE/
Please genuinely consider this option. Thank you.

>>23043600
The memberships/twitch subs are going to be paid to the talents now so cutting them makes no sense unless you want to punish TsunDream

My question is what's up with Purin? Why didn't she leave with everyone else? Even if she's planning to leave, it looks weird to wait instead of joining everyone.

Stream Ride the Day to cheer yourself even just a little bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_R_dfE93Og

>>23043488
Wait, I've got it
We wait for TsunDream to leave and then we combine the initials for Quest, Reverse and Dream, creating /qrd/

>>23043686
Hanabi is dead, you have to move on

>>23037349
Contracts ran up at the same time and they didn't renew. I dont know why this is shocking for anyone who has ever had jobs.

>>23043169
Char said the PO box was caught up with now anon

>>23044062
most people don't have employment contracts that say when you are allowed to leave.
Contract knowledge should be common when watching vtubers though

>>23043600
No I really want those Slug bottle openers

>>23043697
15 dollars for shipping is pretty normal if you arent buying off daddy Bezos. I thought you meant it was 30 dollars or some shit.

>>23043600
Autist the answer is: they just didnt want..to renew their contracts. It's that simple.

>>23044171
I have never payed that much shipping even outside of Amazon

>>23033638
Thank you

>>23043600
That is a stupid idea. Not only would you not get the last possible merch of your preferred Tsunderia member but he would not see that and think "Welp, time to explain everything." Tsunderia is on its last legs whether you buy the merch or not, may as well buy it if it will make you happy to own it.

>>23044062
No shit, that's not the question. The question is what the fuck happened that made them all collectively decide that they didn't want to stay, and in five out of seven cases decide to just go without even holding graduations. It was weird enough when it was just Urara, but people overlooked under the assumption that it was an emergency. Then Char did it too without any obvious reason, and now it's a trend. There's obviously something seriously wrong here.

You know I guess I shouldn’t be surprised the fact Tsunreverse took a month to debut after being announced when the slug said that was a really dumb idea was already a red flag.

>>23043600
>14-year-old rallying his personal army

>>23038303
postmates are very welcome to visit /vrt/

more retro chubers and retro games talk are always welcome there

comments are what to be expected how they all should come to phase

>>23044379
The without gradtuation part is because they don't want to look like they're closing up shop, because they're really continuing business as usual instead of retiring or taking a long break. I can't answer for the rest.

>>23044448
I'm not touching that thread so long as Kiki remains in there
I don't want her to ever collab with Amiya or Meru

>>23044687
it's a discussion thread not a collab thread

>house is burning down
>"please respect us and the talents by not asking questions :)"

>tfw the only reason the company still exists is because the other girls are waiting for their contracts to run out

>>23044757
you shouldn't badger the talents with questions

>>23044787
>Tsunderia continues living on after tsundream fuck off once their contracts expire through Hanabi, until she can be legally declared dead

>>23044553
>pickme girl tweet

>>23043600
I just gonna get some lisa merch because I really like her design and I'm not sure if she ever will return to vtubing after leaving tsun or able to keep the model if she ends up somewhere. I might also do the same for amiya but amiya is much more likely to be able to buy out her model compared to Lisa.
>>23043169
Well we learnt from this saga is that the "hand-off" approach to running vtubing company that many people wish for doesn't really work neither seeing as both CL and Tsun collapsed due to that reason. Both prism and kawaii sre nip companies micromanaging their talents much more and they seem to stabilize now. We can meme about management hate and black company but the results still show.

At least the only one that matters is still a part of Tsunderia

>4.3.2.
What will it be, bros?

>>23045269
>joining PC
>leaving PC
>joining Nijisanji EN

>>23044404
Bringing out my old rrat
>Despite what Urara claimed later about it being a placeholder, Gen 2 actually was originally called Tsunderia Noir and was going to be a two person generation consisting of Shimada Tiger and Seiryu Komatsu, who both left their previous group at the same time and announced plans to join a different group that was heavily hinted to be Tsunderia
>Due to some unforeseen circumstances this plan got put on hold indefinitely, most likely due to Shimada's health issues and busy job
>At this point Gen 2 had already been tentatively revealed but there was no time to open auditions for new talents without causing even further delays, so they grabbed Hanabi (who we know already did work for the company) and Orla (possibly a leftover from earlier auditions, or maybe she already knew Urara and/or Char considering they apparently had to fight PPP to get her in)
>Gen 2 gets renamed to Tsunderia Re/verse because it was the best they could come up with to connect two completely disparate designs, and it gets officially revealed way earlier than it should've been (remember that Hanabi's model didn't even have its rigging completed until days before she debuted) because the wait for gen 2 was already exceptionally long
>To this day over a year later Shimada still hasn't revealed what group she was going to join, and if it was Tsunderia then she probably never will

Orla... sorry...

>>23044553
I would still want to know what the sheep sees in the yabbit.
If by any chance Lisa does ending up leaving though, I hope she just aims higher than Phase. With the gosling magnet that she is, she could easily end up in HoloEN, maybe even NijiEN in a worst case scenario and make loads o money.

>>23045846
Lisa is friends with Lumi before she was a vtuber and Lumi is friends with Pippa

>>23045214
She did vtubing before tsun, and her attachment to audience has only grown. She'll absolutely reincarnate if necessary.

Will the general get /clg/'d with all these departures?

>>23034752
That would take effort and PPP isn't going to put in effort.

>>23046054
Yea, but she is very young and still in college so she easily might end up branching to different things in life. Her age and current living situation might also mean that it is unlikely for her to shell out money to buy out her model from tsunderia. I like Lisa and I think her design is probably within my top 10 favorite within the vtube scene so it will be sad if she has to part with it.

>>23045258
Is that really something to be happy about at this point?

>>23046424
Sad because she has to take a break on Sundays, but glad because she'll probably get back to streaming on Monday.

>>23041225
this.

>>23045846
I rather Lisa going to phase rather than fucking nijien. Tbh, all sign points to Lisa joining pc right now despite of them leaving a bit of bad taste with the aggressive poaching. I still like them better tha. NijiEN. Lisa doesn't seem ambitious enough to aim for holoEN right away even if she seems to have the quality to get in. Miori seems like the type to give a shot to get in holo EN though.

>>23046788
>rather than nijien
anything is better than nijien

>>23042488
Why is Niji dead to you?

>>23045214
CL isn't collapsed. Misaki didn't do her job, but things are looking up now.

>>23047173
I'll await the White Paper in 2 weeks.

>>23047173
things aren't looking up they just aren't on fire.
cyberlive hasn't gained any new viewers yet, but they haven't lost any either

>>23047329
>>23047257
Everyone's membership is almost up and active, even Seina is more active. And more cool stuff is in the pipelines

I hope purin and ami will quit too, this company doesn't deserve them

Don't want to say it but
>bring males
>everything dies

>>23044687
funnily enough having her in the OP has filtered out all the schizos from the thread and its now pretty chill space to talka bout retro stuff.

>>23047909
so it's all Slugma's fault?

>>23047986
>funnily enough having her in the OP has filtered out all the schizos from the thread and its now pretty chill space to talka bout retro stuff.

Wait, how did this work? She is the schizo magnet

>>23048008
People only praised the slug because she had giant tits and smacked her lips when she talked.

>>23048050
yes, and?

>>23039664
Na there's a ton of mid tier indies that are mentally stable. They just will never pick up mass followings because they don't whore themselves out with peepeepoopoo jokes.

>check official tsunderia Twitter
Lmao...

>>23048042
i have no clue but it did and sicne i love ami and meru's system shock was also fun to watch i am more than happy to see mroe talka bout them there

>>23048218
Everyone unfollowed?

>>23048050
I liked the way she talked and her craziness. Her accent, manner of speech, very nice.

>>23048319
the merch has people that just left, but cancelling it now would be even stupider

>>23048319
i think he's laughing about the pinned tweet being merch for people who are leaving or have already left

>>23047117
Too much focus on "muh unity" and that the "unity" constantly ruins streams.
It's a minor thing at first but it quickly builds up as stream after stream is hurried. To the point that now even when minor things happen I just close the stream out of pent up annoyance.
E.g. enna had a karaoke yesterday. And she's constantly playing recordings of others in her branch. And when she played fulgars I just noped out.
I was there for 1 reason alone, ennas singing, and the stream instantly becomes a circlejerk with her friends.

Shits just so annoying.

>>23033773
Was it you who was sending hurtful maros to Lisa? I will find and gut you.

>>23045846
Pippa is generally really nice and caring.

>>23033773
I'm gonna wait before I make a final judgement, since I beliebe she wants to protect our smile
https://twitter.com/chikafujilisa/status/1518146138381033472

>>23048591
The only time I'll ever even look in pippas direction is while I'm fucking the shit out of her while punching her face like a bag of cotton candy.

>>23048591
being really nice and caring seems counter intuitive with being entrenched with the drama she follows

>>23048591
bad bait

>>23048591
I can maybe see that early 2021, but with her rare dips into lolcow content and somewhat trolly nature on social media, that and being a /here/poster, I don't entirely see it.

>>23045846
I think Lisa is just sympathetic to a fault.

>>23048922
I wish Lisa would sympathize with my rock hard cock...

>>23047909
>PPP is male
Checks out

>Tsunderia dead
>CL dying
>Phase poaching everybody
I don't watch Prism, do they have any drama?

>>23049698
Their monetization is pretty scummy and there's a lot of weird management mandates. But dramawise it's pretty light beyond just being a shitty company.

All small corpos who debut m*les should die. Full stop

>>23049698
they are actually the blackiest of all but keep the yab in place by having the most iron fist management, not even hololive has such dictatorships behind the scenes and pyramid scheme like milestones targets

>>23047909
The worst that happenned with the males was that they were irrelevant, they barely interacted with the other Tsuns (especially Kazu) and pretty much nothing changed from adding them.
Which is pretty unsurprising when you think about who was among the members list and how they were and the kind of audience they attracted to the company, I honestly don't know what the slug was thinking there, it was aobvious that, at worst, the males would be forgotten in a dark corner.

>>23049913
I like Kazu he's fun to watch and is good at interacting with his chat, but yeah he feels more like an indie then part of Tsunderia.
He does have good chemistry when he interacted with Mio or Lisa though

>>23049913
>they barely interacted with the other Tsuns (especially Kazu)
I'm pretty sure Kazu's had more interaction with the rest of the company than Nen has.

>>23049698
Nah, the worst Prism has now is a retarded management but everyone seems willing to continue in spite of it and make the best out of their situation.
I'm just wondering when something will happen to Kawaii at this point, feels like they have been getting off the hook pretty easily recently (though I can't say I'm surprised).

>>23049913
Slug wanted to get on the male vtuber thing before anyone else. But she just picked bad streamers and nijien immediately stole her thunder.

It might have been a PPP thing as well since he was notoriously a giant faggot. He might of forced them to pick safe choices.

>>23049698
Black company as fuck but the chuubas themselves are fine.

>>23050086
Kawaii's biggest problem is the scat fetishist and the fact that Shee likes dogs too much

>>23049913
>>23050018
>>23050095
She did not pick bad streamers, no one who watches Tsunderia wants fucking m*les. There was no universe in which a Tsunderia m*le would get popular. People watch Tsunderia for CGDCT, when a nigger shows up on your cute girl's stream, people tune out. Slugma is a talentless, retarded westoid hack infringing on the hobby of people she doesn't understand, waging a culture war on something she doesn't care about. Fuck her

>>23050354
Nobody really cared either way
Tsunderia is small enough it didn't have a specific audience. The people who watch miori are vastly different than those into ami or hanabi or Orla or meru.

>>23050354
Calm down, Jack

>>23049999
Same, I like Kazu but looking at it, he honestly feels like he would have been better off being part of an fps circle rather than part of Tsunderia, most of his collab partners are fps players and he's pretty confortable when in those settings, so...
>>23050018
Nen, Nen is... Nen is Nen, honestly don't know what goes on with them.
>>23050095
Maybe, dunno much about Tomo and Nen, but I do have to admit that Kazu has plenty of faults as a streamer, he can be pretty entertaining but I can understand why some people may not stay with him for much, especially considering where he is, but yeah.
Slugma really didn't think things through with this and seemingly went with the safest choices she could get and ended up with dudes that have potential but didn't have a strong enough start to get people invested in them and support them as they improve and whom the bigger part of the company's community wouldn't bother actually watching them, add to that that she added them just a month or two away from fucking NijiEN debuting their own males and it's no wonder they didn't really go anywhere.

>>23050545
>ended up with dudes that have potential
that's why I'll always consider her incompetent. Because she admitted to this herself on stream that she looked for "potential" rather than "skill", and that's great in the long run, but tsunderia didn't need long running talent, they needed immediate talent and skill because they were falling behind. And while they did get lucky with Ami, literally everyone they hired post gen1 was pretty much a terrible streamer, and in a company that ONLY streams, that's a big deal.

If they just had vtubers that made premade content and had a focus on that instead of streams, I could see it working out more. If kazu just made a bunch of music for the group I'd of been more into that. But I don't give a fuck about his streams.

>>23044379
Char talked about this on her birthday stream threadreader. She had been planning to leave for a while but her plans got stalled due to Ura just taking off. She still works behind the scenes with them and is training her replacement. She just doesn't represent the brand anymore.

As for graduation shit Yuuna explained why in a tweet

>>23050777
I can see the other side, where it's better to pick "potential with a good personality and chemistry" over "skill and talent with a toxic backstabber personality" like the CL girls or Ria.

I just want some sort of conformation on Kallin.
Until she says something, I'm considering her graduated for real.

>>23050909
>and is training her replacement.
lol
lmao
lets be real here. there is no replacement.

>>23051276
It makes sense, but they still needed a higher ratio of Mioris/Yuunas to Kazus or Hanabis.
Or at the very least they should have tried to branch into a lesser done niche, like premade content which is basically an unfilled niche in the EN sphere.

Mikenekos rigger spotted in the phase connect discord
How does fishman do it? There is no way right?

>>23051340
Gonna believe Char and the talents over schizoposting anonchama. She has no horse in the race anymore.

>>23051398
PC is actually a Japanese company with a Japanese branch, so it wouldn't be a big surprise if they used a Japanese rigger too.

>>23051306
Yeah her not changing her information and staying silent had me a bit worried

>>23048591
Anon, Pippa herself says that she's a bad person. Pippa might be an entertaining vtuber but she isnt a nice and caring person due to her autism and general schizoness.

>>23051456
Char also said on her birthday stream there was nothing to worry about and the company had big plans coming up.
She lied.

>>23051456
>char said ppp was optimistic about the future of tsunderia
>this happens
Yeah not believing a thing she says anymore after that.

>>23051456
>This anon is gonna believe a woman lmao
I'm so sorry foryou anon

>>23051666
Technically speaking, "everyone quitting" does count as a big plan.

>>23051459
HQ'd in Canada innit?

>>23051873
No idea, I don't thin fishman is Japanese but its advertised as a Japanese corp.

>>23051864
unless your plan was to make everyone quit because they are terrible at their job turnover is not a viable business plan

>>23051924
Just like every other small corpo owner that focuses on English content, Fishman is Chinese.

>>23051873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Hq44tQbWs

>>23051398
>we might see the day where Lisa says to Rushias face directly that she is a crazy bitch

This timeline will become unsalvageable if this continues

>>23052122
Just embrace the chaos and get attached to noting

This has been the worst and strangest year of my life so far. Obviously some women larping as anime girls leaving a company isn't huge in the grand scheme of things but it does just feel like nothing has been going right. The big collab recently made it seem like Tsunderia was healing too. Now it just seems like one last collab with Tsundream until their contracts run out.

>>23051398
If Mikenekos goes to Phase Connect she is gonna own the company. Like, how to say it, 60k on debut. If she isn't literally capable of buying the company as it is lol.

Not that it is happening, mind you.

So is Lisa and Ami carrying the company right now? (until August at least)

>>23052215
>The big collab recently made it seem like Tsunderia was healing too.
The fact that they went right for "Let's do this again sometime!" while all knowing the company was already dead really stings.

>>23051666
Anon if she knew about this and still felt fine then I don't plan to listen to schitzoposters. They could still go under easy but this doesn't feel like the same type of salted earth leaving like CLG had to deal with. The biggest loss in this is Mio lets be honest...

>>23052307
>salted earth leaving like CLG had to deal with
Tsunderia's fanbase are sane, don't have discord inner circles, or /here/ talents so even if someone left on bad terms I don't think you would experience anything similar

>>23052378
>or /here/ talents

>Purin
>Orla
>Kallin
>Yuuna
>PPP himself

>>23052424
Being aware of here and pandering to here are different.

>>23052424
And don't forget Mio, who's literally read out /tsun/ posts on stream.

>>23052282
There's no reason they can't do a big collab again after being independent, especially after a publically amicable break

>>23052378
Guess that is partially true. It just seems like all the girls leaving are speaking a lot more positively of everything than I remember Lumi doing. Still going to stick with my cope

>>23052307
If you can't present a good enough deal or incentive to hold on to your two biggest talents, who are an order of magnitude above everyone except Purin, then it doesn't matter how big your plans are, they'll never match your prior success

>>23052521
They cant if management blocks it

>>23051985
my sides are gone

>>23052695
>>>management

>>23052695
>absentee management
>blocking anything

>>23050354
Normal male and female interactions that have been going on since the dawn of complex life is a culture war?

>>23051398
I’m confused what makes you think riggers mean anything why would that be surprising? They were hired to do a job.

>>23052473
Wait, what? Got a timestamp?

>>23049698
They have 0 drama and are the only company without any form of drama or bad blood. anyone who says otherwise are seething at the fact that they’ve been doomposting and look stupid in the process because it’s still breathing. It’s probably mainly because they have multiple extreme Seiso Vtubers not a lot of forced coomberbaiting like Kawaii or Tsun did. All of them have pretty much different personalities but mesh really well.

>>23052259
Probably, and from what I see of Ami's chat it's practically all green.

>>23050086
> everyone seems willing to continue in spite of it and make the best out of their situation.
Pretty sure everyone continues because they’re actually happy we’re they’re at not like these other corpos with backstabbers. Shocking that when you have a good environment and people Who actually work together you live longer.

Do you guys think that PPP will try to throw out a new wave? Or is it that inconceivable at this point?

>>23052868
Leave that shit outside of vtubing

>>23053062
>Sumi graduates within weeks

>>23053355
>Sumi is a western woman

Remember simpler times?

>>23052868
Welcome to the world of /vt/, where the idea of males and females interacting for a purpose other copulation is unfathomable and heresy to many.
The fact that one of the biggest VTuber companies somewhat supports this mindset doesn't help I guess, but it comes from the idol industry after all

>>23053016
I don't. But there was a /tsun/ thread where a lot of people were asking what Miori's citizenship situation was. Her very next stream she said something like "Oh, since I saw a lot of people asking about this, I was born in the US while my mom was here teaching, but my family is Korean."
The only place that was asking was /here/.

>>23053269
>Normal interactions
>Culture war

>>23052868
I dont give a fuck about your tranny shit. Go join a male group

>>23053461
M*n talking to your cute girl during her live stream is as normal to vtubing as school shootings are in Japan. Just because it's normal in your shithole doesn't mean its normal everywhere. Now go the fuck back

>>23053439
Hololive being the spearhead of vtubing for the west has only been disastrous.

>>23049913
They interacted plenty at the beginning and got negative feedback.

>>23053429
Remember how the future seemed bright when TsunDream debuted?

They should transfer the m*ales to prism or other corpos

>>23053521
The future was bright to people who pretended the m*les didn't exist. But you can't just do that especially when the corp was pushing the m*les and girls to collab. They should have never debuted them at all. If it was just Lisa, Ami, and Nen, everything would be fine, but it's not.

>>23053540
please send them to Phase

but what happens to the soccer team

>>23053062
>It’s probably mainly because they have multiple extreme Seiso Vtubers

and yet their two best-performing talents are Shiki and Luto

>>23053568
If you're gunna rant about males at least rant about PPP.

>>23052868
Please name 5 historical precedents from before the 20th century where people financially supported the normal male and female interactions of complete strangers as a hobby.

>>23052215
I know how you feel, the past six months or so have been extremely rough for me for a few reasons and watching vtubers, Tsunderia especially, has unironically helped me feel better about it all. Ura resigning hit me way harder than I thought something like that ever would, probably because of how suddenly she was gone reminding me of other things, but I've been getting back on track recently despite all of the other shit that's been going down.
That said, if I'd woken up this morning to find that two more of my favourites that were still left had quit outright I don't know how I would've handled it, so at the very least I'm glad everyone will still be streaming. I hope things will improve for everybody soon.

>>23050354
You are the only person waging a culture war, schizo. Go back to /pcg/

>April 29th
>10 PM PST
>"Announcement: Immediate cessation of all operations."

>>23053568
>The future was bright to people who pretended the m*les didn't exist.
Or to people who are actually mentally healthy and don't have a crippling fear of even writing the fucking word.

>>23053355
>7 chuubas graduate all at once same year same month weeks apart

>>23053911
No one who watches vtubers are mentally healthy normalfag. The chuubas weren't mentally healthy and Slugma was not mentally healthy. You cater to your audience or you die. Tsunderia chose to die like a western company rather than give their audience what they want

>>23053682
>can’t read to save his life.

>>23053938
Nobody is defending tsunderia though.
You're pretending PRISM is yabproof when it has had issues with Sumi, lots of talents complaining about micromanagement, monetization bullshit, and so on.

>>23053470
>Men
>Trannies
So how mentally ill are you?
>>23053498
Vtuber men interact with vtuber women in Japan. Not only that but there are various vtuber tournaments that have mixed genders from different corpos.

I guess school shootings happen frequently in Japan.

>>23053521
The future seemed bright right up until Slugma's resignation went up. It's genuinely incredible how quickly everything seems to have gone wrong.

>>23054034
We need to range banned US ips now

>>23054068
That's when you knew you couldn't rest easy.

>>23053727
Name 5 historical precedents of people paying for normal female-female interactions in the 1800s then

>>23054134
Americans are so fucking stupid omfg

>>23054098
Seethe harder.

I need her

>>23041481
from what slugma said they weren't in the red for a while, this is everyone cashing out as their contracts allow

>>23053777
Unironically watching Tsunderia and this thread have helped me distract myself when all I wanted to do was hole up in my house. If not for Tsunderia I would have probably stopped caring about vtubers around when HoloMyth debuted so it's just sad seeing it die like this, even if the talents themselves will keep going.
>>23054068
That's how life hits you. One second things are looking up or even just steady. Next thing you know your life has irreparably changed. Been hit by that shit twice since 2020 and I'm not even counting Covid.

>>23053984
my point is, if you consider "seiso" to be their anchor for stability and their biggest members are two of the least seiso ones, then maybe that isn't not gonna hold long-term

>>23054068
The writing has been on the wall since January.
Kallin was somber about the future.
Meru let a lot slip.
Miori stopped introducing herself as part of Tsunderia.
Urara's rebrand project got shot down.
Char didn't seem to give a shit about anything but rolling with her pronoun clique.

Anyone paying attention saw this coming.

>>23054472
>stability
>numbers
Are you even reading what you’re saying? Can you read at all this isn’t rocket science?

>Talks about her dating life on stream
>Company crumbles instantly after
Why did she do it bros?

>>23054576
Ami is a whore.
Coincidentally its also why I dropped Yuuna, and Sara and Nia from PRISM

>>23054161
Come home, Pinkma, we (somehow) still have the other big titty shortstack with hag energy who never streams

>>23054576
Ami is unleashing her power level. Soon she'll use her top-tier position at Tsunderia to create a company full of retro gaming hags.

>>23054670
It's not the same.
I want the slug.
Nobody can replace her. Nobody.

So who gets drunk and blurts everything out in an unarchived stream first? Meru, Yuuna, or Miori?

>>23054857
Meru, no contest

>>23054576
The company collapsed when Ami referenced Joe Biden on stream unprovoked and Tomoya started vomiting out his liberal college education about climate change on a topic that was not relevant

>>23050086
>Nah, the worst Prism has now is a retarded management but everyone seems willing to continue in spite of it and make the best out of their situation.
IIRC their older gens all have a pact to not quit until they all quit together. So it could burn down faster than here if only one of them decided to cheese it.

>>23054670
Koopa fucks her fans

>>23055018
>source
>”I saw it in a dream”

>>23054971
Now that we mentioned both of them, it always seemed like Ami had a distaste for Tomo in those early collab streams. She'd call him out with an annoyed tone so often

>>23055070
now this is /vt/

>>23054529
>Kallin was somber about the future.
>Meru let a lot slip.
Both of them obviously have other problems unrelated to the company and it was easy to assume that's what they were talking about, and in Kallin's case I'd wager that it actually was unrelated.
>Miori stopped introducing herself as part of Tsunderia.
Pretty sure this is a very recent thing, not sure when she actually dropped it.
>Urara's rebrand project got shot down.
We don't actually know what happened to that, for all we know she just got too busy to continue it and it's unrelated.
>Char didn't seem to give a shit about anything but rolling with her pronoun clique.
This has literally always been the case.
Even as a collective none of this could've possibly clued anyone in to what an unmitigated disaster the last few weeks have been.

>>23055018
I have a feeling Gen 1 got better perks and just doesn't really care all that much.
Aoi Meno and Iku are all fairly chill and wouldn't be able to make it as indies anyways. So without anything forcing them to leave they have no reason to just ditch PRISM for the sake of making a point, none of them are good enough to make it on their own and would probably just disappear.
Not to say they're bad, I really like Aoi, but she's objectively a pretty mediocre streamer, with Meno because straight up garbage.

Luto is carrying gen 2 and she's gone 90% of the time only coming back to milk her members.

Gen 3 has mostly stagnated, Shiki was huge but kinda died down quickly once the algorithm ditched her. Pina made a place for herself but as someone not a penpal she's an annoying little shit and you can' tell she's a 2 faced cunt.
Nia is dead.

Gen 4, I have no idea really. Sumi quit. And I think Sara was the next big one but while she can be fun she's just a normie whore.
Naki and Polka knockoff just feel like they're trying too hard to be sluts and its abrasive, similar to Mio but with less GFE

Ami and Tomo hate each other

>>23055203
>Ami hates Tomo
>I hate Tomo
WE ARE

>>23055169
fuck you my little sister is not a garbage

>>23055316
Meno is SHIT. Her mic quality is SHIT.
She's only useful as a walking cock sleeve.

All out war.

>>23055316
Until Meno I see her sing all the GX songs and change her name too Hell Meno she will also be garabage

>>23051306
https://twitter.com/yazakikallin/status/1518265850125590530
She's reading the thread again.

>>23055480
I live near you Kallin
I have money
I'll take care of you and your body.

>>23054576
>Talks about her dating life on stream
Any chance for the stream + timestamp of that?

>>23055528
Someone asked for an awkward story or something and Amiya told a story about a girl going on a date with a guy to see Son of the Mask in theaters, the movie sucking, the girl asking him to come home for coffee, and the guy saying he wanted to watch the rest of the movie.

>>23055480
I wish nothing but happiness and joy upon this cute dummy

>>23055480
Thank you baby bat.
Love you!

>>23055343
>>23055457
i hope you stub your toe on a table leg

>>23055503
Will you take care of her butt?

>>23055169
This comment definitely comes from someone who doesn’t watch prism I’ve never read something so retarded and misinformed. It’s actually hilarious you thought you did something with this. But then again I forgot people are still seething at prism and can’t fathom why other corpos are failing right in front of their eyes.

>>23055676
She'll never be constipated with me

>>23055528
It was her most recent Duke Nukem stream. It was really short and insignificant. She was telling stories on stream, someone asked for a funny dating story, and she said that one time she was watching son of mask with a boy in the theatre and hated the movie so she asked if he just wanted to go to her house to fuck and he said he'd rather finish the movie

>>23055700
>doesn't point out why any of it is wrong
>t-they just don't watch it
classic cope

Realistically, can anybody stand in her way on her journey to the top?
She's already shown that she'll mercilessly mow down anybody that tries to stop her.

>>23055867
Herself.

>>23055867
Herself.

>>23055867
Is her innocent persona just for show? I don't want to believe that it is...

>>23055867
who?

>>23055998
It is. It's fake. Miki was nothing like her

>>23055867
>lower end of nijiEN
she already fucked herself.

>>23041905
I didn't even know she had a maro but our schizos are definitely elaborate enough to do that

>>23055795
>doesn’t point out why any of it is wrong
>wouldn’t survive on their own when almost every Vtuber in prism has their own fanbase
This alone was retarded enough to not respond it because it’s based on literally nothing. Imagine making a “point” out of thin air and expecting people to investigate your autism. You’re racking your brain as to why prism is still here and you can’t find the answer so you make up shit it’s just funny to watch.
> Luto is carrying gen 2 and she's gone 90% of the time only coming back to milk her members.
> but as someone not a penpal she's an annoying little shit and you can' tell she's a 2 faced cunt.
The fuck does any of these even mean lmao?

>>23056083
so what was the straw that broke the camels back for you guys to have two generals?

>>23056071
>Lower end of NijiEN is three standard deviations above her numbers as Miki and Ria

I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, REALLY don't want to deal with Phase Connect.

>>23056133
phase connect fans agree with you considering they have two generals

>>23053442
>>23053016
There was also the time she addressed the joke about her always being late to stream because she was masturbating. A joke i'm pretty sure was exclusive to here

>>23056133
I would never lower myself to watch anyone in phase connect other than Tenma.

>>23048869
>>23051559
tourist here, these things and being a nice person are not mutually exclusive. At the end of the day it's just a choice of what to laugh at.

>>23056099
>a corpo has a fanbase so they'd have a fanbase indie
not how it works.
and while there are boring streamers who can make it, someone like Ina would never have even remotely the same success she has in hololive as an indie. There's better art vtubers out there who barely get a fraction of her views.

Now you take that and compare it to Gen1 PRISM? Meno can't even get a working mic. Aoi and Iku are just average at their peak, and more than often below mediocre tier.

>what do these mean
It means Luto takes a week long break every other week. And Pina is a numberswhore menhera who's fake goodgirl act is as blatant as Rosemi's.

>>23056129
She got into NijiEN and then immediately stagnated because she can't capitalize on it, she already fucked herself there. She's not moving up any further than this.
Although, if she were to jump ship to holo it'd be pretty funny on account of many of the smilitarieis she's currently going through in NijiEN matching up with her leaving tsunderia.

>>23056128
It's just a /clg/ falseflag, supposedly they don't want to interact with discussion about Pippa but they are shunning Lumi and Yuri too.

>>23056133
I like Pippa and Tenma.
Stop being a stick in the mud.

>>23056281
Gen2 that has yet to debut too

>>23056281
we aren't involved with your schizo split

>>23056281
>/clg/ falseflag
>weeks before clg schizo became relevant

>>23056322
>I like Pippa
Stopped reading.

>>23056128
extreme schizoposting on pippa's days off and people intentionally shitting up the thread to create the excuse "look, see how BAD it is? why don't you make your own thread? wouldn't that be better?" and people fell for it. And then magically once the split happen most of the schizoposting died down immediately. What a coincidence!
We lost one of our best men the urukaposter

>>23056417
Lumis mods leaked that they were going to join phase connect and were spamming the thread with "see you on 15th", or rather can you still call it a leak if its intentionally shilling info?

>>23056426
okay, but why did the shitposters want to split the thread?

>>23056419
Pippa is a good streamer.