/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23011758
Go home Simon

>>23011854
Who?

Just asking a genuine question about the auditions as they are quite controversial, even with the rrats.

two busy being unitychads with holo recently to actually finish the auditions

i couldn't possibly care less about any of that retarded crap OP

>>23011758
I think they realized "wait we're not actually a corpo at all" after opening up auditions aka they maybe they don't have the management or expertise. rather the like 2 people that run the thing that aren't the girls themselves don't have the time to do all this shit on top of whatever shilling/behind the scenes work they do promoting the existing ones.

>>23012733
they're also being unity with nijis, vshojo is going to be the corpo that will unite all chuubas...

>>23011758
People are overrating certain applicants due to their pre-existing emotional attachment. Also nothing has been confirmed anyway.

>>23015005
I think you mean ironmouse.

>>23015341
ironmouse is the face of vshojo

>>23015005
>unity
Pouring your shit into my soup doesn't make your shit good anon, it makes the soup bad. Keep your actual prostitutes in their containment.

>>23016020
Trying too hard, too obvious false flag.

>>23011758
Remember they got 11 million in investor money now. Whoever they hire has to please their investors

>>23016466
Nah, he's right

>>23011758
There was never a person who did fake auditions to steal info, someone actually hacked all the info for the real Vshojo auditions. Now they are pretending like that never happened because they know someone will have dirt on anyone who auditioned for that round

A while back (maybe January?) I saw tweets from some small indies talking about how they made it to the interview but didn't pass and such. I'm not sure what else has happened since then

>>23011758
Reality of things is that the vast majority of them don't stream and a new gen will take eyes away from those failing to keep up appearances. Naturally this upsets the inner clique. However the new investors also want continued success, so they (the inner clique) are going with the "Spring time for Hitler" route and trying to get the best of the worst to ensure people pretend that Froot and the TTS tranny maintain status.

>>23018722
yeah vshojo is really "the ironmouse, vei and nyanners show" and honestly if those three left the entire thing would 1000% fall apart. all three of those were indie before and there is no reason they can't just go do their own things.

>>23019423
Really if they wanted to avoid any stigma, they'd just officially bring in Snuffy, Connor and than find a male and female indie. Gen is reduced to four and they technically "elevated" two names into the branch. Than Nyanners, Iron etc. can just leave them be and hope they give up in due time.

>>23011758
>So what's actually going on with them?
this

I'm a small indie who went through some of the interview process. It was sadly an unprofessional experience. No responses to emails, no updates while the controversy was happening. They let a lot of us 2 views through the first few rounds just to get our hopes up, not respond for months and then drop everyone out of the blue. Wish we had more clarity about everything because I still really like Vshojo and want the best for all the talents.

So, where is the list of public known rejects? Some anon posted on another trending thread that Nina, Geega, Snuffy and Anny were out, do (You) have info to expand this list?

>>23011758
I like how vshoujo actually doing a fair hiring process and not just nepotism hires ends up being shocking news lol

>>23021079
More interested in the list of people known to have applied who got very excited today.

>>23021079
Anny seems basically confirmed
Snuffy is kind of soft confirmed (complicated)
Geega, and Nina seem to just speculations but interesting timings for sure

Pretty shocking that Snuffy might not have make the cut. I guess they want to raise up new small chuubas. Might make sense since Snuffy is basically considered a member by most fans anyway.

>>23021460
Anny and Snuffy are both confirmed /out/ via messages they sent to their Discords which is what's bringing about this whole conversation in the first place. Apparently around 24 hours ago VShojo sent out e-mails letting people know if they got eliminated or advanced into the next (presumably final, given the big names that have been removed) wave

>>23021452
This may not be as reliable.
Some random other chuuba people were speculating had some "huge announcement" around these same times. Turns out it was just new merch lol

>>23021452
I think that vtuber was actually in one of Ironmouse's vtuber deep dives and she seemed to have been pretty well received in that.

My rrat is that there is no second "wave/gen/whatever" they're poorly managed as is and are incapable of adding on to that

>>23022006
There's people literally confirming they failed the last round. It's not speculation at this point, it's happening.

>>23022006
>poorly managed
>making good decisions
If they're poorly managed they'll add on and on because vshojo's proven themselves to be retarded several times already. They're genuinely a shitshow that only keep their head above water from being the VTwitcher queen bees.

>>23016020
Based

>>23015005
True
Unitychads

>>23015341
Niji's have collabed with pretty much all of Vshojo multiple times.

>>23015341
You know all the other vshojo girls are close friends with some of holo and niji people right?

>>23022133
Yeah confirming that they failed.
Ask yourself this. Why would they bring practical nobodies into the group while excluding those who are already close? They already fucked up hardcore during the dox shit and had their biggest talent flat out tell her entire stream about how bad management was while crying. Do you really think they'd be capable of making a 2view nobody into a 4 view if that person wasn't already close to the girls?

>>23016020
Sorry holobronie they will always be /in/ with you’re oshi’s

>>23011758
I don't think anyone would be mad at vshoujo for nepotism if they hired Snuffy. I think that was expected and the fact that she was rejected is the bigger shock.

>>23022624
I don't get how any of that is related whatsoever.
At the end of the day it looks like they want to bring in smaller vtubers and grow them. Maybe they'll succeed, maybe not but overall this isn't a hard situation to read.

>>23022624
Considering they already did it with Froot? Yes. Especially since they've only inclined since Froot's debut. Hime too technically even if she never streams she pulls an easy 2k+ when she does.

>>23022846
Honestly, any 2view that joins and is given a model upgrade would basically just be set for life as long as they do their job and don't have the personality of dry paint.
Really shouldn't be that hard to do as long as you got in

>>23022839
Sorry I realized after I posted I didn't finish my complete thought.
The point I was getting at is that if management is so bad that their top talent regards it as awful. I don't have faith that management can simultaneously expand the company and turn two views who've never been a part of a company into successful streamers.
>>23022846
Difference is that froot was already close to the girls and hime was already successful enough without them to the point where streaming is completely optional for her. Management doesn't even have to do anything for hime because hime doesn't do anything

>>23011758
It was dead from the second that it was revealed that the talents would be reviewing people and "seeing if they work" AKA only even considering friends AKA anyone who isn't already one would fail ASAP. And most of said friends are either already signed with someone else or have no desire to join a company that has openly shit the bed consistently since arguably even before its conception. Even Snuffy, a member more honorary than even Kotone is to Hololive or Tenkaiji to Nijisanji, openly said she didn't wanna join Vshojo in specifics between the things she's seen and the little behind-closed-doors stuff she's seen. Shit, the tech support issues surrounding Melody could be its own word-capped post and still not cover everything, and you don't want to have the """leader""" of the most popular vtuber group on Twitch take 6 whole fucking months to get non-broken arm rigging.

All of this ignoring the badwill they've gathered through Vei "make up random shit and pretend like I'm Xqc" Baeya, who is ALSO the person that'd give the most hard-line "no"s out of the entire group for said auditions for the most petty reasons. It's dead, Jim.

>>23023185
Hime streamed with Melody like once before VShojo was formed and had zero collabs with the rest of the group.

>>23023263
meds

>>23022735
>I think that was expected and the fact that she was rejected is the bigger shock.
What does she even gain by joining anyway? Just corpo deals?

>>23023332
*Froot, not Hime. Hime hadn't collabed with anyone before joining the group. Froot had only a single collab before that, averaged 100 viewers on stream, and was camless.

>>23023332
>claims meds
>doesn't even remember the infamous Hime "why don't you go outside mousey?" collabs
If you're going to falseflag at least get it right.

>>23011758
Considering that entire auditions were just a one, huge bullshit I would not be surprised if they just did not found anyone.
Funfact - despite how original V-Shojo cast and Vei retained their identities, one of the requirements for supposed new girl is dropping their current identity. Plus from what I heard their planned streaming hours requirements are utterly retarded and no sane person will ever join into it.

Expect nothing or even worse - a delusional menhera that will be treated like shit by company and will retire after few months.

>>23023561
Would like to know a source on any of this

>>23023263
>Even Snuffy, a member more honorary than even Kotone is to Hololive or Tenkaiji to Nijisanji, openly said she didn't wanna join Vshojo
Except Snuffy confirmed said she applied to VShojo (and apparently she got rejected)

>>23023263
>mel tech issues
Someone in VRChat managed to create a functioning dildo from scratch in the time it took for Mel's tech group of years to fix hers. I'm still mad.

>>23023561
>Considering that entire auditions were just a one, huge bullshit I would not be surprised if they just did not found anyone.
That makes no sense. If they didn't find anyone then why are they rejecting people like Snuffy, who is a good friend of a bunch of them?
If they were hurting for people seems obvious they would just pick her up

>>23023705
Source is talking with few people that tried to get into it, I'm not giving name so do what you want. But minimum hours requirement for new person was supposed to be 30 hours a week - even more "professional" Hololive is not grinding their chuubas like that.

>>23023263
>Even Snuffy, a member more honorary than even Kotone is to Hololive or Tenkaiji to Nijisanji, openly said she didn't wanna join Vshojo in specifics between the things she's seen and the little behind-closed-doors stuff she's seen
Did you just decide to not pay attention to anything that was said here?
Snuffy did apply to vshojo

From my understanding other corpos like Holo don't have audition rounds do they? They decide who to hire based on just a good audition? I feel that making a job interview have rounds makes it into a strange sports event, sounds painful and needlessly complex for both the talents and the Vshojo team.

>>23023965
So you don't have any sources
>But minimum hours requirement for new person was supposed to be 30 hours a week
This is already basically confirmed to be false since some of the people who were confirmed to make it to the last round obviously aren't people who put in hours like that

>>23024021
To be fair, this only happened in the past day. I'm talking about the last time she talked about Vshojo in December or so.

>>23024169
Yeah and people lie all the time
You're not allowed to say you're in the audition process while you're in it
Snuffy was lying since around that time she was already in the auditions

>>23024169
You mean when she literally cried because she was so sick she couldn't make the audition on time? Yeah I'm sure she hated the company when she did that.

>>23024293
She literally confirmed they were understanding and let her apply late you retard, there's no ill will between Snuffy and VShojo

>>23024293
>>23024465 (me)
Oh nvm I misread your comment

>>23024048
Tons of jobs have rounds of interviews and it's totally reasonable to have a big open round and one or two interviews of promising candidates afterwards.

>>23024048
They work in stages. You go from a video you submit and if they like it you go to a video interview, and for Holo from there I don't think it's known, but some anon posted in detail about the Niji one once.

>>23024913
VShojo sounds pretty much the same. Their application had a spot to post a link to a video introducing yourself and your content. After that there's probably interviews and the like.

They will either hire some very obvious nepotism people, making clear that auditions were useless, or some literally whos, trying to make a point that auditions weren't useless. In the end, they are fucked and they should have just stuck to private invitations.

>>23025624
Wasn't the point of this post was that they apparently rejected candidates people thought were going to be nepotism hires?

>>23025624
If they wanted nepotism hires then obviously they should have stuck to private invitations
If they want to bring in 2Views and try to grow them then auditions make sense

>>23025869
Snuffy and Anny were two "obvious" picks and they've both been rejected yes. Haruka remains a mystery as the third in the most obvious picks but even removing the other 2 is what's so surprising.

>>23025869
And I'm saying the game was rigged from the start.

>>23025186
From what other anons were saying it kinda sounds like they did that initially and then proceeded to cyclical elimination rounds instead.

>>23025983
Snuffy, Anny, and Haruka are probably the top of literally everyone's list of the most obvious additions. Directly below them is others like Layna and Aethel but Snuffy being eliminated is so surprising because she's been heavily involved in the lore for their new models. It's the sort of thing that seemed perfect for adding her to the group.

I got through to round two. It did not go to interview section. It was another jot form asking about stream set up, stream content, and streaming availability. All questions felt like they should have been included in the first audition form. It was upsetting that so many I know were rejected after months of no response because this section had such basic questions it felt like there was no way any of us could have better represented ourselves.

>>23026362
it feels kind of weird
on one hand it feels like it kind of kills some of the hype
on the other hand now I have no idea what to expect at all for new members

>>23026362
>lore for their new models
Vshojo gave their fucking clothes lore?

>>23026599
No they gave it to themselves.

>>23026630
And they were stupid enough to not coordinate between themselves despite paying the same studio

>>23026832
What is there to coordinate? Like all going to the same artist / rigger? Because that would be dumb as fuck

>>23026630
Their clothes gave themselves lore, huh?

>>23026922
It's entirely new models from the ground up, not just new clothes. And they paid for + planned the lore videos themselves, not the company.

>>23026889
The lore

>>23027010
Doesn't mouse just shit out new outfits all the damn time? Who cares? Why'd the bother with some cringe animatics or something, see council and saw how that worked out for them with their -30 eyesight? The more I hear about vshitshow the more of a clusterfuck they're shown to be lmao

>>23027329
Anon you've got to get this tribalism out of your head. They wanted to make a big show out of new models, so they did, and people liked it. Simple as.

>>23027329
Mouse hasn't done that
A bunch of the vshojos decided to get a redesign and decided to also do lore videos/redebuts as another big event

>>23026542
Honestly I was very hyped going into Snuffy's debut given how perfect things seemed to line up. Still looking forward to her stuff, but I don't know that I care who the new members are now.

It just seems like such a mistake to pass her up given how integrated she is with the company already. From business perspective you'd think they'd want to capitalize on that.

I also can't believe the rest of the girls would let that decision happen without giving them hell for it. One of their best friends pre-vshojo who's obviously qualified and apparently interested. Then again maybe they would have found out at the same time as Snuffy. Should be an interesting week.

>>23028630
Snuffy is a super sporadic streamer and Vshojo already had a bunch of those. It's honestly not that surprising.

>>23028717
I would think they'd care more about brand strength and connections than hours streamed. Her merch would do well for them and she's decent at making connections with others in the space that the other girls wouldn't normally (with maybe the exception of Mouse).

>>23028630
I doubt they knew until around the same time as Snuffy especially given that Mouse literally said Snuffy should be a member on stream once.
The girls have a "veto power" but they don't have the power to just force them to pick a certain person I think

>>23028880
That assumes Snuffy doesn't get worse and just stop streaming like Hime. You can turn someone who consistently shows up into a popular streamer, but you can stop an inconsistent streamer from taking a nosedive.

>>23028998
Definitely not a power to force them to pick someone, but they would probably be upset that she was rejected. There's been a lot of praise from them about vshojo on stream and twitter lately so that's a little confusing if they knew. Maybe I'm reading a little too far into it, but given how people here reacted to the posts I would think the girls would be more upset given they are actually her friend and not just viewers

Someone post one of those JEB! election edits but it's all Nux instead

>>23023332
Again though. Hime was already a big success elsewhere and from the very beginning was never that active streaming. There was absolutely no need to think she'd ever need to be told what to do or how to do it. Hime is pretty much self contained

>>23026362
I would laugh if aethel got in and nobody else

>>23014752
this seems the most accurate considering how they handled that nux shit

>tfw your oshi didnt get into objectively the worst corpo
I wish I could just tell her that she dodged a bullet

>>23031623
>objectively the worst corpo
That's Niji though

>>23031689
Niji actually had potential before they went FULL balls to the wall fujo fujo all the time men-will-never-watch-this-unless-they're-gay ultra mega pandery with luxiem, Vshojo never had a chance just from what they started with, they were doomed for a bad end eventually right from the start.

>>23023965
About 4 hours per week isn’t bad considering this gig is more than enough to be a full time job…

>>23032158
Meant to say per day

>>23022735
My theory is that they did a legit contest and she wasn't picked in favor of people with unique skills and also who acted more professional.

I was in the auditions. They took forever to get back to us after every round. They said one person would email us, only to have a different person email us with rejections. Everything was poorly handled.
The last time we answered any questions for them or spoke to them about ourselves was when we filled out the round 2 application in November. Since then there has been no further interviewing or form-filling. Just a few update emails and a sudden drop. Everyone's distraught right now.

>>23032745
Sounds like a shitstorm's brewing

Its possible that being friends with the core group is actually a negative rather than a positive. You don't want to company to be known just as the club of friends of Nyanners and Ironmouse, but rather be an agency that promotes and supports talents.

There is also another more insidious and corporate reason, which is that you don't want the employees to be in bed together with each other. That gives them all the power. Thats what happened during the Nux drama, management wanted to ignore it, but Nyan and Vei got spooked, which then led to Mouse calling out Nux publicly, which led to all the girls banding together and acting in unison.

>>23032745
The Nux shit was around that time so I guess that played a role. I suspect that also fucked up whatever even they had planned for the anniversary.

>>23011758
how does the VC 15$M play into this?

I thought this was discussed already in previous threads? The nux drama delayed the auditions, but in between that time, they were contacting people one by one to advance onto the next round. A majority of their first picks has already moved on and signed to another company or decided to remain indie. They pulled a scum move and it backfired.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just embezzle that money

>>23035223
I expect it at this point.

QRD on the rrat about VShojo's un-whoring?

I love how this thread is just a bunch of malding rejects shittalking complete nonsense.

>>23034818
That depends on whether they got money from Blackrock.

>>23035036
>A majority of their first picks has already moved on and signed to another company or decided to remain indie.
Wonder how many people they lost then and there.

>>23035408
>VShojo's un-whoring
As if lmao

>>23035408
If that was the plan they missed out on on the unwhoring part by not signing Nina and Geega

>>23035036
>A majority of their first picks has already moved on and signed to another company or decided to remain indie
Then why are they rejecting people who seem like "obvious picks" like Snuffy? If they were struggling to find people then they wouldn't reject her

>>23035438
No its a bunch of people who had to deal with an unprofessional process and became disillusioned by a company they respected. when you have a group of people who all had the same disheartening experience it is not a rrat. Vshojo was not properly prepared and they should not have given false hope to so many content creators for months. So many of us had to turn down other opportunities while waiting to hear anything from Vshojo.

>>23037128
Don't bother trying to speak rationally with these retards lol
None of what they're posting makes sense when you think about it for just 5 minutes. They're making up random bullshit that's just easily disproven.

>>23037174
I'm surprised you're still dedicated to keeping up this bit of acting like you were part of the auditions.

>>23035408
If that makes the investors happy then sure

>>23035408
Vei graduation?

>>23035438
It's people larping as malding rejects
Which is I'm not sure if that's more pathetic or not

>>23031623
did fauna actually apply to vshojo?

>>23037262
>>23037341
Why is "she's /here/" the hardest pill to swallow?

>>23011758
The only good thing about melody is the wire article from back then which insults her

>>23032622
>My theory is that they did a legit contest
So they just did a normal auditions process?
Also why is that like half of the posts here seem to like not even bothering taking a few minutes to find out what happened. A bunch of these arguments posted here seems to fall apart the second you learn they rejected snuffy.

>>23037538
It's because most of the people aren't interested in what's actually happening. They're just trying to look for random reasons to shit on vshoujo. Any actual discussion on this is probably happening in their containment thread instead.

>>23037174
>So many of us had to turn down other opportunities while waiting to hear anything from Vshojo.
Sorry to hear that

>>23023705
You should have ignored him once he said:

>Funfact - despite how original V-Shojo cast and Vei retained their identities, one of the requirements for supposed new girl is dropping their current identity.

This is not how VShojo operates at all with anybody ever.

>>23037380
Because "TITS or GTFO" is as old as 4chan, anon. Nobody is going to believe an anonymous poster with no proof here of all places, especially on /vt/ which has collectively shown a massive hate boner for VShojo, and not from one regurgitating the same talking points in multiple posts like a typical schizo sperg. Give us one reason to believe it.

>>23037538
>hey snuffy can u like say that u applied and got rejected otherwise when haruka or w/e makes it in we can go BOUT WEH REJUCTED SNOOFEY TERFOR EVIRTHIN IS LEGIET

If they actually do bring in new people isn’t it a one way path into hololive as well? Since everyone in vshojo is in contact with or collabed with a holo talent

I do not give a single iota of a fuck about the ethots that pollute Vshojo. All of them are just Twitch whores dressed up in 3D chuuba outfits.

>>23038312
thats the point anon
Put in half into tour content and become just as famous as holo

>>23038312
Thats the point anon
Put little to no effort into your content and profit
they even managed to get as popular as holo ad even get some collabs with them

>>23038164
you don't have to believe anything anon. I was only hoping to give personal insight into the audition process. I don't hate Vshojo and continue to support their talents. I am very understanding as to why I was not qualified to be part of the team. My only issue was with how unprofessional the auditions were.

>>23038641
Obviously the Hololive JPN Vtubers have dignity and put in the effort to their content. Pekora is my oshi for that reason.

But it’s like, Vshojo and Nijisanji EN (also to extent Hololive EN) just feel like Twitch thots. I don’t know if I just hate western women, or if there’s something else to it.

>>23038201
Seems like people are possibly upset Snuffy was rejected though, so that makes no sense.

>>23037436
Based

>>23038722
Would you be willing to do a vocaroo about your experience?

>>23033438
Another reason for them maybe not picking the vsj+ crowd is that they're a bit more established and probably have a better perspective of their overall value and what is and isn't unreasonable to demand in a contract. Iirc vsj are very hands-off from taking off their talents back-end so they might want to control more in the next gen by getting 2views who are happy for whatever they'll get.

>>23038743
>Anon forgets about Marine constantly saying "I'm horny" and posting videos of people doing things to her to make her horny

>>23038743
>EN bad
holoEN is unironically more management whipped family friendly no-naughty-words entertainment than anything JP

>>23038908
I actually never really liked Marine. Not that she’s a bad VTuber, just that I never really thought anything about her as stand out.

>>23038743
Some of the ens are decent, i prefer pink cat the milking stream and toy thursdays are pretty good idk i just like cursed content and her contagious laughter. don’t really check out jp only because of the language barrier but i do enjoy polka and kson

>>23038858
Vshojo requested that we do not talk publicly about the audition process. It's not smart for me to share my voice as it can easily be linked to my VTuber personality. Being anonymous is the only way I am comfortable talking about the auditions. Apologies that this does makes me an unreliable source.

>>23039625
Okay, so what type of questions were you asked? Was your interviewer one of the VShojo talents?

>>23039776
Are you wondering if they did chemistry tests as part of the auditions? Doubt any of the talent that's not part of management would be part of the normal auditions but who knows.

>>23031817
You're fucking delusional if you think Niji quality went down and it's all gay shit now, but I'd expect nothing less from a board of secondaries that can't fathom NO MALES is a bizarre western invention introduced by hololive winning the algo bowl in the west.

>>23040336
What kind of chemistry tests? is it theoretical, practical, or both? If they did, wow i salute them, i underestimate them

>>23039776
As I mentioned earlier I only got to round 2 of auditions I can not speak to anything after this round.

>>23032745
I saw another /here/ poster who may have got to round 3. They mentioned that they did not get any further correspondence apart from minor updates after round 2. Based on my own similar experience with Vshojo not responding I believe this.

Round 2 was another Jotform questionnaire. At no point did I interact with any one outside of the unknown people sending emails under the 'Vshojo audition team' title.

we were asked very basic questions that I felt could have been included in the first application. I am not able to re post any of the questions due to agreeing to 'question confidentiality'. however, I wont refute some of the things said by other anons about 60+ stream hour requirement and voicing an original character.

We had to wait 4 months to hear any updates from a very simple questionnaire. During this time the controversy happened. At no point were we sent any updates or reassurance by the audition team privately therefore, for the 4 months we had no knowing if we or the audition process were affected by the situation. 3 months in I emailed the team requesting an update concerned about the doxing I received no response.

>>23037174
Should have pulled a Rosemi.

>>23038201
That's a better rrat conspiracy than most.

dead corp can’t even handle their own mess, screw up other company to make them grow for sure

>>23040336
>Are you wondering if they did chemistry tests as part of the auditions?
Not that guy but Nyan trip to California suggests they did that. They probably knew that Snuffy for rejected months weeks ago.

Anny confirms she is /out/ on her stream

>>23022685
Vei is kinda fucked though lol. I doubt she will be allowed to collab with them anytime soon

>>23043258
sorry to tell you that anon, but Vei doesn't collab with smaller content creators

>>23043476
>he doesn't know
Ok anon, it's ok to be new here

>>23040336
>chemistry tests
vshojo very rarely does company-wide collabs and when they do, half of the time they're sponsorships

there's no need for chemistry tests if people aren't being forced into being pals on stream

>>23018402
Quite a lot of them actually.
I think Milky Queen applied.

>>23022591
Pippa never understood this because she's such a hikki gremlin and has talked shit about too many big chuubas so now she has to collab with clout chaser nobodies. She shat on Kiara and wonders why no one in Holo or NijiEN will respond to her on Twitter.

>>23040838
huh? no males is very common for holojp?
also he never said anything about quality. it's a fact that Luxiem and Noctyx made the choice to pander solely to women with their constant gay flirting and flirting with their chat.
men can't really enjoy nijien boys unless they're gay

>>23022685
Anon if you don't want to be recognised online at least use different language, you are a seanigger underage who made 15 Twitter accounts to spam holos. You drag our image and the girls down stupid donkey

>>23011758
>vshojo auditions
Isn't VShoujo just glorified friend circle running fake business for tax evasion purposes?
How do you audition to something like this

>>23042177
It's a normal thing in movie/tv casting if you're having two main leads because the last thing you want is two people who can't pretend they don't hate each other for an entire shoot/season. Doubt they do that though.

>>23023768
But why? Someone doesn't like her is the only thing I can think of.

>>23047131
tough competition or the management wanting to change their image from friend clique to an actual corporation that can find new talent and elevate them like other corpos

i doubt any of the current members have a say in it

>>23033438
A demographic of political correctness will not last.

>>23023768
Maybe they had to reject her because a lot of people believed the auditions were a sham to just get well known orbiters like snuffy and haruka in the door. We all know no matter what, whoever gets picked will be lewdtubers anyway.

>>23037174
They sort of cucked anyone out of auditioning for this round of nijisanji come to think of it

>>23047291
Every time any of them has been asked they've said they have no input on the selection process. What they do have is the ability to veto applicants in case anyone who advances far enough actually has beef with one of the current members. There's been no mention of whether anyone has actually used that power, just that they have the option to make sure that the group doesn't hold any hostilities towards one another.

>>23049635
And everyone knows veibae will be using that a lot. Having no input will probably piss them off if their favourite orbiters got rejected.

>>23047131
If its true that they're demanding everyone get a new persona who joins, it might have been mutual. They couldn't let her in as is and have it be fair to the other applicants, and they didnt want to force her to give up a well established persona.

>>23043162
Anny sounded different back then and maybe still has her old IRL photos on Twitter.
Her voice isnt so highpitched with the mic she used back then.

>>23049571
Hopefully everyone saw how well things turned out for Rosemi and won't turn down one in the hand for two in the bush anymore.

>>23043258
vei's still friends with kiara
and a lot of holo members are in the collab discord vshojo has

>>23037060
These two would make perfect new members. Not whores, but not unwilling to speak to an 18+ crowd in a way that'd still engage them. Intelligent. No reason to not take them other than management being absolute retards

>>23050055
>bad designs like the company promotional images or the nyanners designer that redesigned mouse into something bad
>artgun models with the weird heads
Yeah....that's your future with vshitshow lmao.

>>23011758
Dollar store hololive wnabe, most of them don't even collab with each other lol. Vshojo was created when twitch thots saw hololive sucess and tried to copy them.

>>23051473
Wasn't it mostly created because of the 3D model drama though?

>>23051338
They're just like a real corpo now. Not only holo and Niji shit designs compared to a lot of indies, but even small corpos keep downgrading their members models, like Pika and Athy.

>>23050261
Every single part of this post is a lie

>>23042698
I'm the one that got to round 3. They did ask for 60+ hours a month for streaming and there was a checkbox that said "are you willing to voice an original character created by VShojo?". Everything this anon says about the form is correct.

For those that got past round 2, we got that late February email right when they tweeted about it. It said we're still interested in you, please reply to confirm that you're still interested in this opportunity. I replied yes, they replied saying they'd follow up "in the next week" with details. There was no email until over a month later. Some people said they emailed them before that and got no response. I said nothing and waited. Once the email came in, it was them deeply apologizing and saying that this was all "a learning experience" for them. They'd reach out via their VP of Talent by April 22nd, and we were to wait for that. "We look forward to speaking with you personally" was how they signed off. They gave us her email so we knew where that email would be coming from. We were excited to finally move forward with the process.
From there, I got an email close to midnight at the end of the 22nd saying they would not be moving forward with the application, from Gunrun himself. They offered $500 to "support our VTuber journey" and as a token for making it that far. The email offered us the chance to reply with feedback we may have and other ways to contact Gunrun if we needed to communicate anything further. It was nicely worded and I believe that he meant well, but the money and the timing makes it seem like he's running major damage control because the team holding the auditions was incapable of doing right by those who auditioned. I feel bad for him but at the end of it, it's upper management's fault that this was handled like this. Either hire people who are competent to hold these auditions, or don't do them. All you're doing is alienating good creators in this community from your company.

So in the end, there was no round 3 for us. We simply got told we made it past round 2, waited for months, and then got suddenly dropped. I might reply to the email to give some feedback, but I don't think I'll go messaging him about anything else. I'm so done with how this all panned out, and most of the people I've spoken to are saying they don't trust the company enough to apply for them again.

>>23051338
not a single vshojo is using an artgun model

>>23051541
To be fair the pikamee model is her own thing. Unless you're on about the kaiju model.

>>23051640
i shall now watch your streams

>>23051640
>gunrun paying people off so they don't get upset about it
lmao....how about hiring staff to deal with your uncontrollable talent like veibae?

>>23051640
>They did ask for 60+ hours a month
A bit rich of them to ask for that when two of the current roster of 8 are streaming that much

>>23051942
How is this different from dudes talking about taking a fat shit?

>>23051584
sure anon keep believing that but its been confirmed they have a collab discord that has niji,holo,indie and whatnot

>>23051338
Though they got /in/ with hololive

>>23052044
Because omegatranny is retarded and didn't really vet them otherwise veibae would have been a huge no from the beginning. Plus all the cockblocking holo does on nijiEN too, but somehow vshojo is acceptable?

>>23052009
Collab discords are nothing new, everyone has those, either way nobody can get on stream without management approval.

>>23051537
Nah, bandwagoners jumping in chasing cloud. I still don't get why they are a company? To get on TV? Anime? Game?

>>23051944
Uh, if your current roster refuses to stream, it's all the more reason to make sure that at least the people who you are bringing on board are going to stream

>>23021079
Nina just send the application forms to other big vtuber groups just not vshojo.

>>23052113
Obviously its not new… doesn’t mean they can’t interact off stream in the discord
They also showed up for the birthday streams(most likely without permission from cover)

>>23043162
>Anny confirms she is /out/ on her stream
really? Is VShojo designing characters ahead of time?

>>23051640
> "are you willing to voice an original character created by VShojo?"
This is likely what is filtering most of the well known indies. VShojo wants ownership of the character, and a percentage of their SC on par with Hololive and Niji contracts I'm thinking.

>>23038164
>boxy wasn't a /here/poster

>>23052889
This HAS to be because of that stupid investment, right? Why are millions needing to get funnelled into that place?

>>23051640
How incompetent is that guy, first the nux fiasco in november and now being so embarrassingly bad that he felt the need to pay off people for wasting their time. This guy shouldn't run a company.

>>23053019
Neither should the mowtendoo guy either but that's your management for you. Should be spending that investment money on a proper management team to look after the talent and make sure no more yabs happen. Gunrun just uses his Twitch background to look legit and get what he wants. But is there someone else running the show and going hardline on auditions and what the winners would have to do?

>>23052404
If they had any balls they'd cut Hime loose and tell her she can do whatever she wants with the model including using it on her main channel.

>>23038164
Anon it's common for chuubas to be /here/ and /wvt/ has gotten confirmation from them that they're /here/. There's no reason not to believe.

>>23053194
The fuck you on about? Hime owns the channel and the model character, she can do whatever she wants with it idiot! Now stop spreading lies on this mongolian basket weaving forum for a day will ya.

>>23051652
you do know that veibae's new live2d is rigged by artgun, right?

>>23011758
Snuffy being rejected is a HUGE shock, but to be fair isn't that actually something that looks good to someone who isn't already invested in Snuffy and Vshojo?

It means that they don't give their existing friends special favors in the audition process.

Also how stacked are the auditions when an experiences streamer like Snuffy with 5k average viewers doesn't make it?

>>23053822
Rigged but not designed. Artgun's rigging is god-tier, it's her art that's questionable. That's why Vei got someone else to handle that side.

>>23051942
There's nothing wrong with Vei apart from her not streaming enough. She has good numbers and brings in money. The gross shit she says occasionally is obviously a problem for holo fans and most of /vt/, but she attracts a different crowd and is successful with it. No reason to change anything there from a management perspective.

Isn't what makes Vshojo "special" the fact it's just a bunch of perceived friends? Do they just want to hire 2views so they can explore them without the current members getting upset?

>>23055430
>Isn't what makes Vshojo "special" the fact it's just a bunch of perceived friends?
no

>>23055430
>what makes Vshojo "special"
Pretty sure that's the fact that one of them is a literal whore, another one is literally dying and all of them were western thots before Holo EN was a thing.

>>23055430
I don't know anymore.
I was so sure that people like Snuffy, Haruka and Anny would get in and then one or two unrelated people so they can point to them and they "see, it's not just nepotism, we didn't just hire our friends".
Now that Anny and Snuffy have gotten rejected I have NO FUCKING IDEA what's even happening. Snuffy in particular makes no sense. She's friends with all of the current members, she is one of the biggest indies on twitch and gets thousands of viewers, she gets sponsors and can sell merch. If they rejected Snuffy then who the fuck got accepted?

>>23055836
Management might want to try and "make" a successful vshojo member so they find ppl with talent but not a lot of presence already and make them big by whatever plan they got. Already established or bigger vtubers would probably have too much of an advantage during negotiations.

>>23055836
well, apparently veibae denied being accepted to vshojo up until her redebut. so It could be a ruse from snuffy, anny's israel though.

>>23055990
>Management might want to try and "make" a successful vshojo member so they find ppl with talent but not a lot of presence already and make them big by whatever plan they got.
They did that with Froot, didn't they? Froot had a name as an artist before, but she wasn't a streamer. Afaik she only streamed like 5 times before her vtuber debut and those were 5 camless streams of her drawing her own vtuber model.

im hungry, post rrats

>>23056394
Vshojo is a good company.

>>23055836
To add onto what this >>23055990 anon said, management might be holding out on finding someone with a small but notable following to 'build up' themselves and create a dependent relationship with. "Don't forget what we gave you" kind of deal to use as leverage.
As opposed to someone like Snuffy who is already huge and is able to approach the negotiating table on her own terms and knows she could leave VShojo at any point and be fine. She'd be much harder to control, every decision would be a negotiation, with compromises they wouldn't have to make with smaller talent.
It's all speculation at this point anyway, and I doubt that'll change

>>23056487
I don't think that makes much sense, because in the end their goal as a company is to make money. Taking a 2view is more work and less gain than just taking Snuffy who already has a ton of fans. Also they already worked with Snuffy (Snuffy has said before that vshojo staff helped her with stuff) and they don't seem very interested in controlling their talents, they even advertise themselves as hands off.
I'm beginning to think they hired a 3rd party to help them with auditions and that 3rd party doesn't know shit about vtubing. That would also explain why Mowtendoo posted about being mad for 3 days straight.

>>23056720
maybe they're just really hung up about the 60 hours a month of streaming, it would immediately explain why anny and snuffy are out

bad idea to bring in more people who stream 30 hours a month with major motivation loss/depression/undiagnosed medical issues when you are already dealing with this with the people who are already a part of the group

>>23056720
The idea of hiring a 3rd party for something like this is so nonsensical that it really loops back to being plausible due to how incompetent their staff seems to be. I really don't know what to believe at this point

>>23054490
So what about the shylily shit then? Going after someone just because she sounds like you and does the lewdtuber coomer gimmick even though she had the voice from the start.

>>23056929
Yeah I'm not going to defend Vei on that. Vei is kind of a bitch, but this is not vshojo's responsibility to fix. It does reflect badly upon Vshojo to some degree, but they are pretty open about their talents being allowed to do whatever they want. Vei being an asshole is a Vei thing.

>>23054490
She needs a manager to stop yabbing it up. Someone that would have told her to cut out the sodapoppin talking on stream as it was driving people away.

>>23057080
what are you even talking about, eceleb gossip drives people in

>>23056883
60 is shit but what would you do as a minimum to make new people worthwhile? 40 maybe? And obviously it'd be like hololive so the hourly requirement could be lessened after the first year or whatever.

>>23055783
Isn't holoen made of western thots?

>>23057161
60 hours is 3x 5 hour stream a week, or 4x 3.8h, or 2x 7.5h

it's not that much to ask tbqh

>>23057161
>60 is shit
it's not
2 hour streams a day would reach that number with barely any effort

>>23056883
> 60 hours a month of streaming, it would immediately explain why anny and snuffy are out
Snuffy rarely does that many but Anny streamed over 60 hours a month every month for a year before her home country was invaded by the russians

>>23057161
60 hours is not unreasonable.
If you start streaming for vshojo then you'll be able to make that your fulltime job unless you fuck up on a galactic scale. 60 hours is a lot and probably a dealbreaker for people who see this as a hobby, but vshojo is not looking for streamers that stream as a hobby. They're looking for people who want to make this their job.

>>23057058
This is why she needs a manager to rope her in and make sure that shit doesn't happen again. Because yes, it does make the company look bad that they hired this fucker and let her get away with practically everything.

And don't forget about her doubling down on the hololive crapping on, because that made a lot of people want the company outright banned from holo collabs, to make it clear.

>>23057171
Sure, but it came actually after them.

>>23057450
I can see your point and agree to some degree, but I think Veibae and maybe even some of the other talent would just leave if Vshojo tried to control them. They're there because the company allows them to do whatever they want while helping them with merch and sponsorships in return for a cut from those merch sales and sponsor deals.
Vei doubling down on those comments was fucking retarded too, but the outrage on /vt/ over the planned collab would have happened regardless because /vt/ has a hateboner for everything vshojo. I don't know how many people on reddit and twitter were mad about it. Vei not doing holo collabs is probably for the best anyway, she has the most twitchfag/LSF audience among the vshojos. She has more overlap with xQc and Forsen than with other vtubers. Nyanners and Ironmouse have fanbases that are much more compatible with other vtubers.

>>23057450
>they hired this fucker and let her get away with practically everything.

Vshojo is a talent agency, they make money off her merch. She doesn't work for them, they work for her. If Vei wants to be a bitch that's her own problem.

>>23057817
>If Vei wants to be a bitch that's her own problem.
It's everyone's problem if it starts closing doors for the other members. So far it hasn't happened, though.

>>23050750
I still think Nina would not fit. While she is a closeted? femcoomer she definitely would lose time and space for her music, and that would shed her sanity little by little.
Geega on the other hand would be a great addition because she hates coomer shit but allows if it's funny, so an antithesis for the company if you think about it, mustering another crowd, therefore reaching new public.

>>23058252
This is true. The way Geega allows it in certain circumstances would mesh well with the existing crowd without requiring her to sacrifice her own image.
Idk man, i'm just mad those two aren't in. Y'all better support Geega when she debuts her new model if you claim to want smart, anti coomer streamers like you say you do.

>>23058252
She'd fit, she could finally go on the big stage like Mousey. Plus the same argument as >>23058380
applies, the fact she likes to talk innuendo a lot would bridge the existing vsj coomer fanbase easily.

>>23042177
I will acknowledge that I got a chuckle out of your chemistry pun anon

>>23058380
>if you claim to want smart, anti coomer streamers like you say you do
no one does this

>>23058252
I think Nina would be fine and it's a huge loss for Vshojo that they rejected her. Vshojo isn't just coom shit and never was. Froot is basically seiso and Zen viewers mostly aren't coomers either. There's room for 100% seiso streamers in vshojo and I think it wouldn't even take that long for the viewers to get used to it. The streamer would just have a rough first month.

>>23058511
this, i need more cute girls to give me the details on their mssturbation habits

>>23051640
>They offered $500 to "support our VTuber journey" and as a token for making it that far.
lmfao if true, tell em to take that $500 and shove it up their ass

>>23058615
>saying no to free money

>>23058669
if she's good enough to make it to round 3 she probably makes that amount in a single stream/video/whatever

>>23058380
Geega is also pretty friendly with Zen and maybe Froot (though not officially "plus"), would be funny if Zen starts openly collabing with geega in response to this though.

>>23058380
>>23058511
I would like too but I'm a third worlder, I can only tier 1 so many chuubas before breaking apart.
But if you want an example of a supported anti-coomer vtuber, Bat did that right: she has constant income from many regulars and her donation events are absurdly well done. While she is very cute and has the sexy voice she doesn't go actively for it like Nina that still throw some bones around.

>>23058567
>Froot is basically seiso and Zen viewers mostly aren't coomers either
C'mon I'm trying to be positive here but you can't just close your eyes, even if you're used to it. While I agree solo Froot isn't that much of a coomer she still hooks everyone with innuendos and shit. The only girl out of the loop is Zen because men don't do that shit.

>>23058940
Zen has already collabed with Geega. She's been part of Zen's community for ages.

>>23059014
>spoiler
The biggest en males do. Vox and shoto are extremely coomer, mysta too, but he doesn’t do streams dedicated to it.

>>23059014
Everyone makes little innuendos from time to time.

>>23018722
I like this rrat

I'd love to see Nurse take up Vtubing, not sure she'd be a good fit for Vshojo though.

>>23059647
Well... every nurse I know has a "things found in peoples's ass in ED" story

vshojo desperate for shylily to apply

>>23057161
Anon 60 is nothing, literally all of NijiEN streams more than that every month, a bunch of them stream double that.

>>23060109
Except if what people said are true, talent have vetos and veibae would have done it on shylily.

>>23061267
4D chess move, just replace Vei with shylily and see how long it'll take for people to notice.

>>23027329
I think mouse has so many outfits or 'forms' because its her way of dressing up

>>23023263
>All of this ignoring the badwill they've gathered through Vei "make up random shit and pretend like I'm Xqc" Baeya, who is ALSO the person that'd give the most hard-line "no"s out of the entire group for said auditions for the most petty reasons. It's dead, Jim
I agree with this take, the fact they need unanimous support from every current member and VShojo are such a fragmented group of menheras means literally no one with any notability will be approved. Every single popular Twitch streamer has some bad blood or internal drama with one of those menheras and all it takes is Melody having one of her episodes without her meds or Veibae's narcissism acting up to get you rejected. So the only people that will pass are the ones that are so inoffensive that nobody internally is threatened by them. Or joke members like Bubi and Hime who will never stream and just latching onto the VShojo brand for clout.
I fully expect them to pick xQc or some shit using a $10,000 female avatar and a joke female voice to make fun of vtubers as some big epic joke and then he'll never stream again.

>>23059014
>C'mon I'm trying to be positive here but you can't just close your eyes, even if you're used to it. While I agree solo Froot isn't that much of a coomer she still hooks everyone with innuendos and shit.
if that counts as coomer then nina herself is a coomer

>>23021079
https://files.catbox.moe/vtncxi.webm

So who the fuck is likely even getting in?

i bet the sadposts that snuffy made in her discord were a false flag, but then she saw anny making actual sadposts and started to feel bad, that's why she deleted them and her mod put out that retarded message

>>23063391
What message?

>>23062875
>I'm a variety streamer
I have yet to see her do a stream that isn't cooking or a debut and I've been following her for a couple of months now

>>23063584
her mod basically post out a post to everyone (even tho snuffy's original message was only visible to tier 3 subs) saying 'hurr durr don't screen shot and spread her messages, they're meant to be private

>>23062875
Is that Giri's application? Sucks cause I really like her and was hoping she would make it.

>>23063737
and this was done after someone leaked her messages where she said she had been rejected to the vsj+ thread. basically the thread was speculating whether the messages were real or not, with snuffy clearly having fun riling up the thread, and then her retarded mod just confirmed them

>>23063737
The channels are for T2 and T3 on Twitch and Patreon, so its a little more inclusive than that. But yeah >>23063824 it was done after Snuffy's initial messages in confidence were actually leaked, and then after that she started intentionally fucking with vsj+ because it was 5 in the morning and she doesnt make good decisions sleep deprived. Lead to some funny stuff though.

>>23063949
>because it was 5 in the morning and she doesnt make good decisions sleep deprived
fucking with the thread was a good decision though, I bet she was laughing her ass off at the stupid posts there

>>23063668
She played games more frequently up until February or so.
>>23063774
I've no clue if she actually got in but that's her application.

>>23064243
Did she post it publicly? I was just assuming she might have released it with the news that she got cut or something but that was just an assumption from me.

>>23053969
They've put a lot of pressure on themselves. The recruitment team now, MUST prove that they hired a talent more entertaining and worthwhile than Snuffy.

>>23050261
That means absolutely nothing if Vei is banned from collabing with the Holos

>>23064309
No, not publicly

>>23043476
Vei IS the smaller content creator

>>23064563
There's 15k people watching her watch videos right now. Calling it content is a stretch but she's definitely bigger than the vast majority of hololive.

I know this entire thread is bullshit because snuffy was on the record as not auditioning for/wanting to join VSJ because she likes having merch rights to herself, and this was last year around the time they opened auditions.

snuffy is a fat degenerate furfag who is okay with being an orbiter.

>>23064974
Gotta stay caught with the times anon. She later got sad when she was too sick to make the auditions in time, and then as of a couple days ago when mentioning being rejected that they gave her an extension because her medical issues at the time were very public and well documented

>>23065371
If that's true then she's a lying fat degenerate furfag and i'm glad i stopped paying attention to twitch vtuber whores.

>>23064974
>because snuffy was on the record as not auditioning for/wanting to join VSJ because she likes having merch rights to herself
That was a while ago. When the auditions actually happened Snuffy was unsure whether she should apply at first and then she got sick and missed the deadline, but vshojo actually let her submit a late application.

>>23062541
Also all of HoloEN is a coomer, Batat is a coomer etc.

>>23035408
lmao, thanks for the giggle m8

>>23043009
Tsunderia...

>>23062384
>I agree with this take, the fact they need unanimous support from every current member

They literally don't need this lol

>>23072756
is there any confirmation that they do or dont? or are schizos just whipping themselves into a rage unprompted?

>>23073012
The only confirmation is that they can't be vetoed by anyone. But it's also very doubtful that anyone who has serious issues with any of the VShojos would want to join the group anyway so it's unlikely that the veto power would even use.

>>23073012
I think months ago Mousey said that the existing members can veto applicants.
More recently Mousey said that she's not involved in the audition process though, so applicants definitely don't need approval.

>>23073012
There's supposedly something about them having veto power but nothing about needing a unanimous vote. Most likely it's just that they can tell Gunrun if they've heard someone is problematic behind the scenes in order to avoid Bunny like drama.

>>23073343
>Most likely it's just that they can tell Gunrun if they've heard someone is problematic behind the scenes in order to avoid Bunny like drama.
This is all it is, 100%.
If someone like Bunny makes it far and the girls find out about her shit they can tell Gunrun that they wouldn't be able to work with someone like that.

>>23015412
>ironmouse is the face of vshojo
What happened to Melody?

>>23075646
Mel does a lot more official behind the scenes stuff while Mouse is more like the public face of the company

>>23057171
that get tard-wrangled

>>23075646
Didn't build on her momentum. Twitch is ever-changing. Take GreekGodX for example. A few years back, he was beloved and featured constantly with some of the biggest names like Sodapoppin. Now nobody wishes to associate with him, despite the fact he was never "cancelled" or whatever. People just got tired of his shtick. Mizkif will likely suffer the same fate as younger, more enthusiastic names come onto the platform and have more relatable takes for the zoomies in chat.

Vtubers can constantly reinvent themselves with new models and digital gimmicks. All Melody had was "hey she did porn" and didn't go from there when every other lewdtuber was actively out performing her in well, being lewd.

>>23051640
>I'm the one that got to round 3.
>So in the end, there was no round 3 for us
You can tell this was written by a woman because of the basic logic contradictions.

>>23051640
>They offered $500 to "support our VTuber journey" and as a token for making it that far
That's not shady as shit at all lmao

>>23055430
Their interactions seem far more honest and less sanitized than those of other companies, that's for sure. Guys like Mori and Gura seem to like each other, but you can tell there is a layer of keyfabe going on.

>>23052993
Every day it gets more plausible

>>23058669
I would like to point out that accepting money in certain circumstances can legally make you ineligible to file a lawsuit or pursue other legal action. It doesn't make much sense to me why they would be offering so much money to people when they happily sold them down the river with the dox shit, so this strikes me as likely just a scummy legal tactic, as if they're afraid of something.

>>23052993
>This HAS to be because of that stupid investment, right?
Yes
100%

>>23064322
Snuffy is not particularly talented tho.

>>23078111
she has a real talent for getting my peen hard

>>23075646
Deposed by Mouse and Cat during the Nux drama. The subathon pretty much crowned Mousey as the queen of VShojo.

>>23078111
That's for the recruitment team to prove

>>23055990
>Management might want to try and "make" a successful vshojo member
They want to see how strong is the VShojo brand is. Is it strong enough to elevate a obscure talent into a top tier.

>>23063225
2views

>>23052889
It's over

>>23051640
Screenshot the “support our vtuber journey” part of the email.