/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Two threads has passed, no EN 3 in sight

>Big 500k celebration
>Only 6k
What went wrong to Mysta?

>>22982417
EN3 will be coming in May

>>22982047
Ogey Korone I know you love Sonic but Sega isn't what it used to be anymore... Don't shill their garbage company now. I mean look at all of the DLC/Digital-only stuff they want to release for the remastered games https://origins.sonicthehedgehog.com/

>>22982352
So is Ollie kind of like ID Ame? Relying on gimmicks for numbers

>>22982100
Yui 10k

>>22982475
naisu

What the heck, Vox delayed by 30 mins to avoid direct overlap and Mysta still couldn't get 7k today.
I guess he's just looking at fanart and chillin, but feels like with this light overlap, it should still be a 10k stream going by his track record.
Now he's going to be gutted by Vox unless someone calls in.

>>22982429
Yumejo's bank are already emptiy so no botting.

> High Tide almost at 2M already
this song is going places

>>22982511
He should've named the title, "This is my kingdom come. This is my kingdom come"

>>22982445
That's a huge disservice to Ame, who can still get 4k with the worst games.
In a world where Ame optimizes her gaming streams, she can be an 9-10k streamer. Ollie on the other hand actually cannot get good numbers playing games and this has been the case since her 3rd month.

>>22982429
No gimmick no numbers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-It0NCp0kc
11k. Her rigging is really good.

>>22982539
>going places
Not really, it just got heavily buffed by Holofes. It's climbing a bit slowly now.

>>22982594
yeah fair. Does Ollie play any buff games? Haven't seen her ER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvCrQiAVuY

This retard... apparently she was supposed to play another game with Luna...

>>22982617
The shadow at her back already makes her different from other vtubers.

Kobo 5k get

Mysta is calling people now
10k guarantee

>>22982617
First time karaoke?
We know from NijiEN recently how insanely buffed those numbers can be.

Kobo Bryant 5k

>>22982295
>>22982128
The indonesian boxing match actually reached 2M CCV, for the MPL usually get like 400K+ CCV

man all around low numbers today, first niji gold I guess

>>22982708
>MOONA VS. OLLIE IN A BARE KNUCKLES BOXING MATCH WHEN!?
Ollie likely would have the weight advantage but less reach than Moona?

>>22982684
Should be. She already released several covers as well.

>>22982682
Sasuga Windah's onahole!

>>22982625
Anon it gained almost a million views in a month, that's amazing for an ID orisong

>>22982740
At least it makes the "Niji still no gold" schizo shut the fuck up

>>22982799

>>22982753
Moona can move though, she'd win easily.

>>22982638
>Does Ollie play any buff games?
Does Minecraft count? She gets bad numbers with that too.
The game Ollie plays the most is Apex and it's one of her worst number games.
Otherwise, it's just debuff games forever.

Also, I'm surprised surprised Zeta is at 1.6k and Kaela is at 1.2k
Kobo has the bulk of viewers at 5k, but idk if Zeta is doing poorly by only being higher than Kaela by 400 or if Kaela is doing good to only be 400 behind Zeta.

>>22982429
My rrat is that the fujos are laying low with their bot gimmick after being expose by /#/

>>22982511
>don't combine celebration with a first time buff
>don't have fujos willing to bot you because they hate your ass
Finally some real numbers.

>>22982740
Numberrot, anon. 15k isn't even enough to get you into top 10 today. It's not a super strong day, but it's not really low per se

>>22982883
>Also, I'm surprised surprised Zeta is at 1.6k and Kaela is at 1.2k
There are not many interesting streams on the ID side today. Reine's AA and Ollie's Omori are huge filters if you aren't caught up. Some are probably watching Iofi right now, but most would gravitate to the horror game collab.

>>22982683
He's still scrolling through his twitter art tag right now so nope.
Vox and Ike are streaming right now too so 2 of the biggest totsu buffs aren't free anyways and the girls are irrelevant.

>>22982904
sus

>>22982904
meds.
but also now you have ME being paranoid over it.

>>22982883
debut buff is already wearing

>>22982883
Speaking Indog only is the biggest debuff Zeta can get. Meanwhile I still don't know why Kaela can still reach 1.2k ccv. Is Indog hag a buff ???

>>22982883
Their numbers might be affected by this
https://youtu.be/UBperHLkwEs

>>22982429
That's his real high number without bots.

>>22983175
Zeta is just a cheap version of chloe. Every popular clip of her will just show that she is another chloe

>>22983175
>Kaela can still reach 1.2k ccv.
If you don't mind her not being high energy all l the time, her game commentary is actually not that bad. It's a bit like when Asmongold when he streams as Zack.

>>22983239
we need an EN version of Chloe

>>22983175
>Meanwhile I still don't know why Kaela can still reach 1.2k ccv. Is Indog hag a buff ???
1.2k despite her stream being a laggy mess too.
I think Zeta should be able to get 2k by herself tho.

>>22983239
Chloe is actually quite entertaining, whereas Zeta has a beautiful voice but is pretty boring.

>>22982904
Could be a possibility. We know that chink fujos are /here/ all the time lurking. They probably lay low for now and only send out the bots/viewfarm at the 25th

>>22983159
2 more days and it'll be a month.
Debut buff is long gone by now.

>>22982417
For EN3, other than a daily streamer, pro singer/gamer. I want another asmr artist who's going to do GFE. Fauna's ASMR is nice and all, but there is a need for more ASMR artists in the branch. FBK, Okayu, Noel and Lamy is the best of the best in the JP branch and they all cover a specific niche and personality. Since Fauna covers the mama nature aspect, there should be a tomboy gf who could do weekly asmrs. Onegai cover. There's tons of asmr artists out there who want better money than posting on patreon or PH.

It unironically does not slip this time.

>>22983347
For what ? To complete the Pon trinity ? Or the Yadayadayada collection ?

Is Neo Porte just an APEX vtubers company or a general entertainment company like Hololive and Nijisanji? Yui is great it's shame if she is stuck playing APEX.

>>22982445
Ollie is entertaining, but i don't know... she didn't have that charisma of "oh my god this girl is so talented i will support her forever" kinda thing for me personally.

>>22983535
Come on, every branch needs someone to pander to the gfe fags.

>>22983544
Music + FPS, however from their game choices, it doesn't seem like FPS is all they can play.
They have Mafumafu and Soraru on board too.

>>22983528
What's the exact number anyway?

>>22983544
It's supposed to get support from people like Mafumafu and Soraru in their roster. Pretty generalist with a stronger initial focus in gaming.

>>22983623
37,324

>>22983482
Are there ASMR artists who want to be a vtuber?

>>22983587
>>22983623
>mafumafu and soraru
Great, can't wait to see their music side.

>>22983408
don't diss King's oshi like that

>>22983544
They're new so they need somekind of gimmick to separate themselves from other VTubers company. Give them another year or so and they'll unironically turn into VSPO lite or generic streamers that good at fps

>>22982904
they're building up for Vox's thing, guaranteed 100k, you'll see those swingy worm graph too if it goes on for long enough

>>22983528

>>22983761
This tweet makes me spit out my drink every time.
I love Kuzuha's tweets.

>>22983408
Fauna used to be boring as well, it's to early to tell. Need more time to settle in maybe she can get better.

>>22983623
>generalist
You say that, but their numbers playing non-FPS games were pretty horrible. Hell, that bootleg Kanae got sub 1k numbers even WHILE playing APEX.

>>22983730
There's some asmr vtubers on twitch, they aren't great but most are okayish. Usually I turned to PH's anime asmr RPs or Holos.

>>22983528
KNEELGANG ASSEMBLE!

>king I Kneel!
(only oldfags will recognize THIS king)

>>22983891
One more thing, kaela and kobo are just natural good streamer.

>>22983891
For a subset of people, "chill" streamers like Fauna will always be boring tho.
I actually thought Fauna was fine after her first week since she's chatty and is good at zatsu. Helps that her game choice facilitates her strengths.

In Zeta's case, the problem for me is that she plays a lot of FPS and she's pretty bad so she dies a lot and she can't chat while playing those games. Of course, this can change with more experience.

>>22983544
>Is Neo Porte just an APEX vtubers company
They’re just boy-VSPO, gamers but that can do generalist streams on the side

>>22984047
>boy
But they have equal amount of girls and boys...

>>22984047
>boy-VSPO
That's ironic because outside of Hal and Reid, the 2 established vtubers, Neoporte girls are mogging the boys hard.
Neoporte boys looking like Holostars these days.

>>22983891
Like I told to many anons here, we should apply the "watch the first 3 episodes of anime before deciding" theory to Vtubers too.

Wait, Kaela didn't use her 1st karaoke buff yet?

>>22984197
Yup. still waiting for that 1st karaoke from ID hag

>>22984197
She still hiding her potential maybe, idk if her voice is actually good at singing

>>22982445
Ame is debuffing herself a lot though, if she decided to take it serious she can still get decent number on shitty game while Ollie get 2k - 3k at best (with no overlap) on buff content like Minecraft, horror or singing stream

>>22984306
She is the only that didn't put music relate stuff on her debut so maybe she is not interested in that stuff ? Even Anya express wanting to learn how to sing in her debut

>>22984197
I have a feeling she’s a sovl singer

Current live top 10.

>>22984543
IIRC she said that she want to make 1 original song atleast

soon

>>22984627
Should be a gold medal today at least loool

Tamaki getting another 10k with a FPS (VSPO) chuuba interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJYtm7XP_Vw

>>22984627
Today, this one is the right version to post.

>>22984676
oh right.. I posted the silver carry one...

EN3 will flop

https://twitter.com/powerwashsim/status/1517820588500439041

Vtuber Powerwash Sim dev shoutout

>>22984749
on my dick
slurp my cum
Yes

>>22984662
How often have Mito and Ange collabed?
They're usually the 2nd and 3rd most popular Niji Females, but they don't feel like similar people.

>found this pic
radio co-hosts?

https://vrabi.net/video/mF3P8TpBnFU
1k away from a rare Mito 20k stream.
Looks like a collab with Ange where they talk about sexual fetishes.
Niji Old Guard showing up tonight.

>>22984662
>>22982617
Yui's really good.
I don't know how to describe it, is it vocal texture?
She's got similar qualities to Ado and Melissa in how she sings but her voice is nicer and higher.
Looks like 12k is the peak.

>>22984776
ange was a guest on mito's radio

>>22984771
pretty sure some nijiEN played the game before

>>22984995
Its stuck but already 1M

>>22984995
SUSAN YOU ABSOLUTE CUNT

>>22984938
Vocal color?

>>22985016
I know. Fucking susan and her useless pajeet

>>22984995
>5 minutes later
still at 999,997 views

>>22984995
nice that puts it at 40th place

>>22984995
Meanwhile, nijiID hasn't able to get 1M on any of their videos yet. Did their songs even reached 1M except for the into reality song?

>>22984995
>1,000,121 views

It is done.

>>22980822
1m list anon, it's done

ONE MILLION

>>22985207
I know, I'm getting the precise minutes now, give me a few minutes

>>22984938
Speaking of, what happened with Melissa?
She streamed twice in March, and twice in April with Mashiro.

all her big numbers were in songs, but she hasn't released one in 7 months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaRnUDpVa1Y

>110 posts
>39 ips
>Topic about ID
That's weird. Usually at this time, it becomes a shitshow. What happened? Why is this thread quiet when Kuzuha is about to win?

>>22985337
big brain guess time

>>22985337
The 11 dollar incident obliterated the posters here.

>>22984771
>none of the holos that made me buy it
he is lucky i spend way to much time with it to get a refund

>>22985337
$11 that wiped half of /#/ population

>>22985337
Isnt a good amount of # still banned from the bot retard

mito at 22k right now.

>>22985321
Melissa has never been a streamer (gets bad numbers when she streams anyways)
The lack of song releases is a bit weird tho.

Also wtf, this Yui Kawaki wo Ameku is legit. She would automatically be a top tier singer in HoloJP.
The talent pool in JP is nuts.

>>22985490
yeah Yui is great

>>22985428
>survive because i ditched the thread duo to way to many shitposters
thank you retards for saving me from eating shit like you did

>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Original songs only) (23th Apr 2022)

1 REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
2 Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
3 Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
4 Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
5 Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
6 Reflect MV (Gawr Gura) - 2d 12h 24m
7 Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
8 Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
9 End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
10 Capsule (Calliope Mori) - 4d 13h 51m

11 RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
12 Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m
13 Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52m
14 Doggy God street (Inugami Korone) - 6d 3h 55m
15 Template(Hoshimachi Suisei) - 6d 10h 7m
16 Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
17 Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
18 Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
19 The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
20 UnAlive (Mori Calliope) - 10d 0h 22m

21 Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
22 Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m
23 DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) 12d 5h 20m
24 A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
25 Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m
26 Graveyard shift (Mori and Boogie Voxx) - 13d 6h 0m
27 Interact Fantasia (3rd gen) - 13d 17h 19m
28 Yoi no yo, Yoi (Nakiri Ayame) - 13d 22h 0m
29 Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 14d 12h 52m
30 Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 14d 15h 51m

31 Live Again (Mori Calliope) 14d 18h 10m
32 Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17d 0h 14m
33 Journey of a thousand years (HoloMyth) - 19d 17h 46m
34 Fact (Tokoyami Towa) - 19d 18h 9m
35 Play dice (Hakos Baelz) - 20d 8h 7m
36 RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 22d 17h 29m
37 HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23d 1h 0m
38 SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24d 19h 49m
39 My Song (Tsunomake Watame) - 25d 0h 59m
40 Mantra Hujan (Kobo Kanaeru) - 27d 0h 11m

41 Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 28d 17h 37m
42 Curry Meishi Miracle (Pekora Subaru Aqua) 29d 23h 9m
43 Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30d 2h 43m
44 High Tide (Moona) - 30d 2h 55m
45 Saikyou Tensai Korone (Inugami Korone) - 32d 22h 39m
46 OniKemonoDance (AyafubuMi)- 33d 22h 48m
47 Bye bye Rainy (Suisei) - 34d 23h 51m

>>22985443
Yes, for i think another day

But then again, how shit is your ISP that you can't just switch to dynamic ip, or join on your phone data?

I just told the 11$ guy he was a moron and still got banned, but then i just restarted my router and got a new ip.

https://twitter.com/powerwashsim/status/1517820588500439041
roru

>>22985552
>Kobo
Put (NEW) next to it when you re-post it in the next thread please.

>>22985552
nice, thanks anon. Fastest ID song

>>22985565
Where i live a simple router restart doesnt reroll my ip

>>22985552
also a nitpick but for 9,44,47, could you put their full names

vrabi crashed?

>>22985443
If they still can't figure out how to get around the ban they aren't old enough to be posting in numbers

>>22985544
One of the drawbacks of being an idol company like Cover is that there are a lot of talented singers like Yui/Yugo/a bunch of Nijis that aren't interested in being idols and the restrictions that come with it. They just want to be sing and do whatever they want.
It's too bad, but that's just how it is. Idols are mainstream and niche at the same time.

I think Yui has potential to get 10k for future karaokes too if she's this good wtf. This Gurenge is legit better than 95% of the Holo ones I've heard LMAO.

>>22985850
No. Working fine for me.

>>22985890
yeah I don't fault them for not wanting to be idols, it's a lot more freeing to just be a singer.

>>22983891
Fauna has, for better or worse, been the exact same she has been since debut outside of her ability to stream for longer hours. Not sure how you can say she was boring back then.

>>22985890
True https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQEuy2-H1zo

>>22985890
>Gurenge
So a meme song

SUSAN

>>22985995
Yeah if Fauna Spore didn't win you over, chances are she never will.
It's still one of her best streams.

>>22985949
>yeah I don't fault them for not wanting to be idols, it's a lot more freeing to just be a singer.
kek, I am genuinely not seeing the difference here. How is Yui / Yugo different from Okayu?

>>22985890
>>22986105
>LMAO
>kek
this is like the 2020s version of liberally sprinkling lol into your forum posts

>>22986093
Sorry Iofi, 2k is for grow-
>she hit it
nandemonai!

>>22985490
>The lack of song releases is a bit weird tho.
They keep doing covers under their roommate instead. Not really sure why.

>>22986105
We barely know anything about Yui and Yugo so far, but a few things common amongst people who don't want to be idols are:
- Not a fan of cutesy, idol songs
- Don't want to do dancing reps
- Don't want to have to put up a professional impression most of the time (there are exceptions to this in hololive, but most of them are professionals)
- Don't want to deal with BS when collabing with strangers (Holos have an extensive vetting process before they let their talents collab with people outside of the company)
- Don't want to deal with antis, which comes with the territory for idols

>>22985949
That's just cope. Why earn less singing when you could earn more from a bigger deal just becoming a Holo? Watame had a long run of her weekly night fever stuff, and ended up with a solo live and an album. Yugo wouldn't taste a little piece of that in her career because she fell for that freedom meme from niji again. What difference does it make being a niji? You'll get restricted in things you do anyway.

>>22986294
>- Don't want to deal with antis, which comes with the territory for idols

Hahaha what? ANYONE gets antis if you step on the wrong toes.

So this is where all the viewers went. I will call this, THE saturday midnight show.

>>22986331
>Why earn less singing when you could earn more from a bigger deal just becoming a Holo?
Yeah why do musicians make music for niche genres when they can just make pop music and selling way more?
It's not that hard to think of many reasons why people don't want to be idols. Not everything is about money.

>>22986294
>- Don't want to deal with BS when collabing with strangers (Holos have an extensive vetting process before they let their talents collab with people outside of the company)
That's not really an idol thing, it's a hololive thing, stemming from them exploding back in 2020 and realizing that they can't afford to just fuck around like they are a bunch of streamers with less than a thousand dollars to their name, and also the chinkout causing them to be alot more strict about any potential issues any on stream activities can create

>>22985873
Case in point

>>22983799
Oh, his birthday is this month? It doesn't matter then since HoloEN already took the month when it comes to EN Gold, lmao. Boost the stream up to 8 million for all I care fujos. It's still only going to count as one win and you alllllllready lost.

>>22985890
This isn't exactly a "drawback" though
It just means that Japan has an insane amount of talented singers and singers that could shine with a bit of polish. Mainly due to the Karaoke culture they have.
There's plenty of singers who want to be idols as well, so Cover has a wide talent pool to recruit from in Japan (unlike the west) while the other companies can take the less serious singers who want to do other stuff.

rate Iofi's art skills

>>22986383
Everyone has haters, but you're lying to yourself if you don't think idols have way more than your average entertainer. This is prevalent in kpop and other idol industries as well.

>>22986421
>realizing that they can't afford to just fuck around like they are a bunch of streamers with less than a thousand dollars to their name
This is part of the restrictions that make some people not want to be idols/be in Hololive. Some people just want to chill without having that kind of pressure, especially when there are many entertainers who are just as successful as Holos without having to be so cautious.

>>22986294
>Don't want to deal with antis, which comes with the territory for idols
For fuck sake, the two world champions in antis on Hololive are the two least "idols" of the whole bunch
>Coco
>Fubuki

Also
>Don't want to have to put up a professional impression most of the time
This has ZERO to do with "idols"
>Don't want to deal with BS when collabing with strangers
This also has ZERO to do with "idols"
>Not a fan of cutesy, idol songs
Wut? This doesn't even make sense.

Here is the only point I'll grant you, one that has zero to do with Hololive
>Don't want to do dancing reps
This is the only thing from your list that is expected from a Holo streamer that is barely related to "idol reps".

All of the rest of your list is more about
>being the employee a grown up company with "entertainment industry" aspirations
as opposed to
>being a streamer with an avatar, with software, an accountant and a lawyer provided by a company taking a cut of your proceeds
And I say that without a HINT of negative criticism, as I believe there is a market for both strategies.

But other than "dance idol reps" (which Calli and Luna more than proves that is pretty much lip service for Holos) all other points you made is not "idol vs. not idol" but "aspirations of professionalism vs. amateurish creative freedom" and, again, I say that without a hint of negative implication of which owuld be the correct angle (because both fill different niches)

Only tangentially related to numbers but how does this 7k sub nobody keep getting collabs with streamers with hundreds of thousands of subs.
First it was Ollie now Liliana Vampaia.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvF70ri_ri8uZqI1mlasjZQ

>>22986621
The kronii one was better

>>22986624
>there are many entertainers who are just as successful as Holos without having to be so cautious.
I'm open to hear a couple of examples if you can provide.

>>22986392
kek I had tuned in for Yui's stream and she was talking about this show, and how a lot of people were waiting for the premiere (she also kinda asked them to listen to her in the background if possible, since she was overlapping the new episode timeslot).

>>22986676
Go on Twitch, there's dozens of streamers bigger than Hololive

>>22986647
Reminds me of not!Millie PL ascension

>>22986676
Vox

https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1517877467985629185
Another watchalong frame incoming probably.

>>22986621
Pekora doesn't work with her default cloths, maybe in the new years kimono.

is youtube displaying strange numbers on the home for anyone else?

>>22986731
The fact you didn't provided a name is not making your point for yourself.
You provided a theory
>there are streamers in the same range of perceived success of Hololive that, at the same time, can collaborate with unvetted people without caring too much of repercussions

Providing some examples would help advancing your point.

>>22986331
Anon Neo Porte has mafumafu and soraru. Yui is more than fine.

Jesas what's wrong with mysta's celebration numbers. And why does he have another view farm failure drop in his chart?

>>22986785
he might be talking about folks like xqc, mizkif and those circles

>>22986773
Not really? Where do you mean
>pic related

>>22986744
Fuck you fat dragon poster

>>22986824
He would have to provide with the people these folks are collabing without being "too cautious"
To the best of my knowledge even these people usually collab with people from their own circles or people already known in their platforms

>>22986627
> the two world champions in antis on Hololive are the two least "idols" of the whole bunch
Those 2 got most of their antis because of the chink out, which is a completely separate thing from the usual antis idols get.
The usual antis are the ones who harass Aqua and shittalk Pekora on twitter, and they are mostly japs, not chinks.

>Not a fan of cutesy, idol songs
>Wut? This doesn't even make sense.
"I don't like idols or idol music so I don't want to be an idol" isn't that hard to understand. It's the most obvious reason why someone wouldn't want to be an idol.

>>22986747
Is this the first time a JP Esports team is making a name for themselves in big stage international competition?
iirc the last major one I remember was MVP Phoenix in Dota but they didn't really get that many high placements.

>>22986621
mel 8/10 very cute
pekora 5/10 bit weird but alright

>>22986418
who said you cant sing/write a pop song in Hololive? do Calli's songs sound like idol shit to you?

>>22986897
I mean, Ironmouse is a good example. She wasn't even on their radar until late 2021 despite streaming for a long time.
For those types, they just collab with big numbers and try to get them into their clique. Sure they can collab with other smaller shitters, but none of them bother to do so because of numbers, not because of any "restrictions" they have.

Hololive antis have nothing to do with muh idoru shit,and towa/Mori don't sing any idoru songs so it's not like anyone forces them to make idol music. This argument is based on pure ignorance

>>22986897
Pokimane collabed with Jidion, a fucking yab machine who got permabanned on Twitch for harassing her, just a few months ago despite them having very public and ugly beef and it got insane numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNOMMlUXlOs

Stuff like this would never happen in Hololive for a million years.

xQc collabs with Hasan and Destiny all the time and those two are lightning rods for controversy because of how politic they are.

>>22987012
> yab machine
> permabanned
> Twitch
...should we tell him?

>>22987009
Ssssh let them keep going

>>22987009
>muh two exceptions means everything
>meanwhile Bloom is all idol songs
Why don't you add Suisei in there too while you're at it, ignoring the vast majority of Hololive originals are idolshit.

>>22986914
>"I don't like idols or idol music so I don't want to be an idol" isn't that hard to understand. It's the most obvious reason why someone wouldn't want to be an idol.
This part is perfectly understandable. It is the implication that everyone joining Hololive would be forced to become an idol instead of just "a singer" is what I objected to.

Calli definitely didn't EVER do a single dance rep. Luna may have paid lip service to it but, yeah, she's not into it either.
I don't think any streamer would have any problem joining Hololive and, while being a great singer, remain just that, a low stress karaoke singer that has no aspiration of "idolship", like the examples of Yugo or Yui and there are plenty of examples on Hololive current roster itself to prove that.

Saying you don't want to join hololive because you might be hololive tier successful one day without the downsides is a new layer of schizo argument.

>>22986933
Yeah, probably the first one of this scale. And MVP Phoenix was Korean.

>>22986627
Still don't get how they got Council when there are other more professional and talented people to be in those spots. Sana and Kronii is void of any professionalism in a career where consistency is key. If they don't care about money, Kronii should've practiced making more VA content at her disposal with thousands of fans watching while Sana should've drawn more on stream to boost her roommate's career. Then, there's Baelz. What a lazy rat.

>>22987066
https://www.ginx.tv/en/twitch/jidion-appeal-reverse-twitch-permaban-rejected
You don't know shit, retard. He's still permabanned eventho Pokimane vouched for him that the beef is squashed.

>>22987101
it's not exactly the idol shit I think, it's just the creative freedom overall, you can't deny that Cover has a lot of restrictions compared to NeoPorte

>>22985337
The mass ban incident

>>22987107
Ah fuck I confused the two.
Damn, so yeah this is indeed the first time Japan has been on the world stage in the genre...
I guess it's obvious why there's a lot of hype behind them. iirc, they have some new registration system for ESports players which got rid of a lot of archaic shit that prevented them from playing games for money, which is how the ESports scene there started slowly digging itself out of a decade of irrelevance.

>>22986824
Ludwig even said Taiwan is a country on stream. Susan didn't kick him out. It was coco's fault when she could've taken the suspension and apologized afterwards. Could've just moved HoloCN to Youtube for good if bili2 was involved, but they made it disappear, angering the CN audience.

>>22985337
They should be back in less than 10 hours i think.

>>22987012
NTA, but I'd rather shit like that stay on twitch. Twitch meta is powered by drama. It's the reason why whenever something even slightly controversial happens, everyone and their dog has to comment on it. It's how we got the whole bunny situation and why shylily became a thing. If nothing else, I commend most of the JP corpo chuubas for making sure that none of their talents have to dip themselves into that type of shit.

>>22987221
Not the fucking zhang LARPer again..

>>22987221
>coco's fault

>>22987221
>Could've just moved HoloCN
Not today artiafag

>>22987136
Twitch "beef"s are like movies dude, their ban system is laughably bad. And Twitch creators thrive off drama, so obviously they would have no problem collabing with people they don't agree with.
That other anon probably wasn't talking about the streamer scene though (or didn't word it right) I'm guessing he was talking about Indie VTubers who may not be as careful as hololive in selecting people to collab with.

And that one is pretty obvious with all the small Indie corpos, Cyberlive, Tsunderia, PC etc.

>>22986821
mysta is really struggling with views after a continuous of yabs

>>22986821
He's at 9.7k now after Shu and Ike called in so it looks like he's going to get 10k afterall.
Saved by call-ins at the end of the day. Probably no EN gold tho.

>>22987341
>And that one is pretty obvious with all the small Indie corpos, Cyberlive, Tsunderia, PC etc.
They are nowhere near anywhere as successful as Hololive is. Like, it's not even close. Those small corpos struggle to hit 3 digits most days

>>22987181
Anon, most companies in the world has their own restrictions. What kind of restrictions would hinder your application to Hololive? They can't play certain games? They play another game. They can't sing some songs? Then play another song. They can't talk about politics? All workplaces prevents you to do that too. You can't cuss on stream? A lot of Hololive members cuss on stream. You can't collab with Stars? You can collab with them.

It's stupid that Hololive has so many misconceptions on what they can or can't do.

Bots engaged, prepare for impact.

>>22987221
kys Zhangnigger

>>22986993
>I mean, Ironmouse is a good example. She wasn't even on their radar until late 2021 despite streaming for a long time.
For fuck sake, Ironmouse is one of the most professional streamers in the whole industry, and that includes the Youtube side as well.

It is fucking insulting to even imply a streamer which is in the market since fucking 2017, one that had her first viral break in 2020 when she got "2000 bucks without even getting the chance to explain why"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI0ki06MItU
(in a period where 2000 bucks in donations in a stream was considered a big number)
one that is the current flagship of a company that just got 11 million dollars in venture capital investment, is picking a collab partner without being "too cautious".

>>22987012
>Jidion
Anon, that's a streamer nearing 5 fucking million subs.

What the fuck are you guys calling "without being too cautious"? If it would be a market fit for Hololive they would easily collab with people having 1M subs, 5 million subs, people whose livelihood clearly hinge on their online activities.

Are you guys confusing "being too cautions choosing collab partners" with "filtering out controversial people because Hololive is in the 'no controversies, only comfy' market and don't want to tarnish their brand with people that don't fit that image?

>>22987221
Jesus don't talk about stuff you have zero idea about, Coco's thing wasn't even about Taiwan, zhangs always hated her and were just waiting for something to get reasonably (in a Chinese sense of the word) angry about.

Same shit that happens in Japan btw, Antis shitpost on 5ch about people all the time, but as soon as there's some sign of an actual issue (Matsuri hand, Tracing, Luna disappearance, Rushia yab etc.) they will spam that shit on normie spheres to make it look like "A LOT OF PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS".

That's the combination that gets people with zero braincells like you into believing surface level rrats.

>22987115
>Then, there's Baelz. What a lazy rat.
You fucking take that back right now

>>22987425
>They can't play certain games? They play another game. They can't sing some songs? Then play another song.
still valid reasons to not want to join, not everyone is a success chaser.

>>22982257
Who is that???

>>22987496
>not everyone is a success chaser.

>>22987221
T.zhang
The funniest thing about the China/Taiwan issue is that literally outside these countries gives a fuck. 50% of the people can't even place Taiwan in a map and the other 50% has never heard anything about it, but chinks are so retarded that they are farming the hatred of the whole world because of their stupid tribalism

>>22987181
>it's just the creative freedom overall
For fuck sake, how can people say that when Haachama exists? Mention what you think that a Neo Porte streamer would be able to do that would be, at the same time, "creative" and forbidden by Hololive for "excessive creativity" reasons

>>22987478
... mate I was talking about the Twitch IRL streamer circle's decision to collab with mouse not the other way around.

>>22987425
>What kind of restrictions would hinder your application to Hololive?
I can think of one thing Holos won't be allowed to do lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6-na8AVSqI

You know Coco graduated because she wanted to do whatever the fuck she's doing now right? You can just look at her channel for stuff that she wasn't allowed to do as a Holo.

No one's saying it's a good career choice, but not everything is about maximizing money.

>>22987496
>Not success chasers
Then stop joining corpos. "I'm joining this big VTuber corp because I want to make new friends". Realise how stupid that sound ?

>>22986853
this one here

>>22987221
After Coco's graduation, I shorted bili and made tons of money out of it. Bless you orange dragon.

>>22987626
>You can just look at her channel for stuff that she wasn't allowed to do as a Holo.
which is?

>>22987550
>... mate I was talking about the Twitch IRL streamer circle's decision to collab with mouse
Me too! Ironmouse is a professional streamer with 5 years of proven record, anyone willing to collab with her is not doing it while "not being too cautious"

Quite the contrary, there are very few people in the whole wide world that are safer to collab than Ironmouse, her whole livelihood depends on her online activities and she would NEVER do anything to jeopardize that.
There is a reason even Holo, known for being picky with collab partners, greenlit her

>>22987542
Ame herself has spoken of restrictions to certain stuff, so did Coco.

>>22987632
anon, I'm not saying they're joining to just make friends but you can be a vtuber without wanting to be the best ever, it's literally like any other job, no need to hype it up that much.

>>22987626
>You can just look at her channel for stuff that she wasn't allowed to do as a Holo.
>>22987677
>which is?
I'm curious too. Other than bending over on a Nier 2B skirt and showing her ass I'm not sure what anon means

>>22987703
Also nobody can be mad at her because she has SuperAIDS

>>22987181
> creative freedom
This is literally a meme at this point, almost every VTuber industry wide trend in the past 2 years were started or perfected by Holo members.
Being a holo comes with a lot of money and connections which lets a lot of them do bigger projects.
But I have yet to see any example of an Indie streamer doing anything more "creative" than some of the holos (while still being interesting enough to retain their audience even without relying on the gimmick).

>>22987738
>Ame herself has spoken of restrictions to certain stuff, so did Coco.
Anon, of course there are restrictions. As I said, Hololive is in the market of
>COMFY NON CONTROVERSY

That's why, for instance, they veto Mumei "history lessons". This is not saying
>hololive let streamers do whatever they want
but
>Hololive has clearly defined boundaries that filters out most controversial content while allowing a full range of "creativity" for their streamers

Haachama is the ultimate example for that.

>>22987666
GO REINE GO

>>22987772
>But I have yet to see any example of an Indie streamer doing anything more "creative" than some of the holo
Casually forgetting nijien kino hotel offpako, no holo can pull this shit

>>22987772
Hololive started nothing. All Cover does is steal from Nijisanji and then market the stolen ideas to unicorns.

>>22987626
Coco's main big projects she wouldn't have been able to do under Holo are still under preparation. She's been hyping the second half of the year up a lot.

>>22987849
funniest part is that every number was wrong. the view count, duration and how long ago it was. it's probably just something on my end requesting/receiving data from another video

>>22987877
Did you even read what you wrote?

>>22987825
I mean, that is already enough to filter a lot of people, especially those uninterested in being the "comfy, non-controversial" market.
Like hell if a musician wants to write songs about mental health issues and societal problems, I really doubt Cover would let them release it since it clashes with their image, so these people won't want to join Hololive.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>14,575: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,659: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,883: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>9,054: Vox (Nijisanji)
>8,214: Alban (Nijisanji)
>7,112: Alban (Nijisanji)
>6,326: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,322: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>6,219: Fauna (Hololive)
>6,171: Amelia (Hololive)

I dip out for an hour and thread nose dives. Nice

>>22987890
>All Cover does is steal from Nijisanji and then market the stolen ideas to unicorns.
kek, shouldn't you at least give credit where credit is due?

>All Cover does is steal from Idolbu and Gamebu and then pay their streamers to sabotage them

>>22987890
Nijisanji steal idea from Kizuna AI and accelerate it til the market become satured. So kys

>>22987945
Polka di this
https://youtu.be/vbhgQ_C_jaM

>>22987990
EN GOLD SO FAR FOR APRIL

1. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,476 (April Fools model swap featuring IRyS as Kronii)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 39,453 (April Fools 3DVR Variety Show)
3. Mori (Hololive) - 28,119 (Birthday Countdown and Call-ins)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 79,372 (Birthday 3D Live)
5. Gura (Hololive) - 40,764 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,375 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 14,677 (Kirby and the Forgotten Land)
8. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,640 (Elden Ring)
9. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,767 (Food Review w/Baelz)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,169 (Overwatch w/Ina, IRyS, Mumei, Kronii, and Amelia)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,067 (Vampire Survivors)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 17,560 (Vampire Survivors)
13. Mori (Hololive) - 18,784 (Tea Party zatsudan w/Gura and Kronii)
14. Vox (Nijisanji) - 59,507 (Unarchived Karaoke + 522k subscriber celebration)
15. Vox (Nijisanji) - 17,071 (Karaoke After Party)
16. Elira (Nijisanji) - 14,510 (Unarchived Karaoke)
17. Luca (Nijisanji) - 40,337 (400k Celebration and Karaoke)
18. Mori (Hololive) - 15,201 (CHAD Cast w/IRyS and Baelz)
19. Uki (Nijisanji) - 19,080 (Unarchived Karaoke)
20. Shu (Nijisanji) - 18,409 (Luxiem vs. Noctyx Valorant)
21. Gura (Hololive) - 14,325 (DEVOUR w/Kronii, Fauna, and Mumei)
22. Gura (Hololive) - 18,986 (Food Review and Tier List)
23. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,575 (Minecraft)

Hololive - 16
Nijisanji - 7
Others - 0

>>22987825
yeah, I'm not saying it's optimal to not be a holo, but it's valid reasoning to not want to join because of those reasons.

>>22987990
nooooooo, the bots were to late! holos can't keep getting away with it!

>>22987459
Should have paid more than $11

>>22988058
>bots
Did you think it was bots too today when Mumei went from 12k to 14k when Gura called in?
Mysta only got 1.6k from 2 of his genmates calling in too, which is pretty weak.

>>22987945
>Like hell if a musician wants to write songs about mental health issues and societal problems, I really doubt Cover would let them release it
I agree.
>so these people won't want to join Hololive.
I also agree

That does not connect to the original point tho, which would be (>>22985890)
>One of the drawbacks of being an idol company like Cover is that there are a lot of talented singers like Yui/Yugo/a bunch of Nijis that aren't interested in being idols and the restrictions that come with it.
This has nothing to do with Cover being "an idol company" and everything to do with Coevr being a company in the
>comfy and non controversial (non political, non depressive, non negative)
market.

Anyone looking to either be part of a company like that or to consume content like that have alternatives which Cover clearly opted out on providing,
And that has ZERO to do with "idols"

>>22988038
The gimped horse race has a winner this month. Nice

>>22987892
just two more weeks guys

>>22988047
>but it's valid reasoning to not want to join because of those reasons.
I'm not even disputing that, see >>22988133.

Actually, it is a fucking miracle that Calli joined, she's not a fit at all and the fact she made it work is something baffling

>>22988028
Gods, didn't she butcher an outfit reveal to basically promote this song?

>>22988038
Holo wins the special olympics for April.

The thing about cover is that although it's not impossible, it is just more of a headache doing "creative" content due to having to fight upper management and then adding paperwork on top of that.
I wish that there were more headstrong holo's like marine who have worked in this sort of company environment and know how to convince the higher ups

>>22988133
Fair enough, altho I will argue that idols are inherently "comfy and non-controversial" because every tiny controversial gets blown up to the moon.
Just think of the past few Holo yabs. If Rushia wasn't a Holo, the mafumafu thing wouldn't have blown up nearly as much.

>>22988194
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
> don't remind me of that

>>22988047
You can do what you want on another account ( Noel, La+,... exit). Joining Holo is literally free money

>>22985890
Idol is just a gimmick Cover using to market their talent, bunch of Holos are NND streamers or coming from various background that nothing to do with stage performance and music. Hololive created an anime model and hire a contractor to voice act that character. It means they not looking for idols, they looking for someone fit with that pre-made model.

>>22988028
i'm misremembering but was it that staff-san recommended this song for holofes3 but it got shot down by polka or was it the opposite where staff denied this song for holofes3?

>>22987990
>14,575: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,659: IRyS (Hololive)
Both of these streams could've been even higher if they weren't overlapping.
Feels weird to be disappointed at 14k minecraft.

>>22988228
>If Rushia wasn't a Holo, the mafumafu thing wouldn't have blown up nearly as much.
Anon, even Rushia *being* a Holo, if she was not a complete retarded menhera, it wouldn't have blown up nearly as much.

All Rushia needed to do would be
>Sit tight, shut up and let Cover "jannies" clean up her mess
like MafuMafu did with his "a message was sent but there is no cohabitation" beautifully crafted PR statement

Matsuri "robber hand" case had a much bigger potential to cause trouble but did she overreact? No, she let the jannies clean it up and they did.

Well, actually she did, but jannies cleaned it alright

>>22988187
ok so we're in agreement then

>>22988260
yeah but at the end of the day, maybe they'd rather just have a job with less restrictions than Hololive? You can still live pretty well off in the smaller corpos, you're just not a millionaire holo. Like I said, it's not the optimal decision but it's their preference.

>>22988289
>someone fit with that pre-made model
>sana
>baelz
>ame
>irys

>>22988228
Any female streamer receiving a pm from mfmf is a big issue regardless and you're more fucked if you're indie.

>>22988146
Eh, say what you will but she's got a track record. Her live2D itself is proof enough that she's willing to use as much time as needed to make sure things come out the way she wants them to.

Even outside of that it's just comfortable to be your own boss and not have to run everything by management. Plenty of the stuff she's already done like the tax accountant collab is something I doubt Cover would have greenlit.

>>22988320
Mumei and IRyS overlapped alot, usually Mumei overlap IRyS with unarchive karaoke and mog her, but this time IRyS couldn't do the opposite

>>22988372
>Like I said, it's not the optimal decision but it's their preference.
You can even use two real life examples to push your point forward
>Chigusa, from NijiJP
>Mille, from NijiEN
Both are argued to have turned down a Holo position for a Niji one with the later being a publicly known case of having done so.

Some people would gladly embrace the chance to work for (let's say) Apple for a six figures pay, others would prefer to roll their dice and try one more time for their bootstrapped startup trying to save the world by making it easier to imagine the smell over the internet.

To each their own

>>22988187
One big cause why Mori got a lot more anti after the lean yab. Not all their reason are just but i can understand where they came from. I came to this hobby hopping for a drama free place, and one like her is just too... tiresome. After that yab, Cali came from one of my fav to.. Mori.

>>22988496
Yeah. Good analogy, not everyone wants to work for the biggest corpo ever, not every high ranking student applies to Ivy League, not every software engineer applies to FAANG, just the way it is.

>>22988474
>Mumei mogs Irys with a karaoke when Irys is playing the debuff shit she's been playing for months
>Irys couldn't mog Mumei playing Minecraft with Gura
I mean...
That's before getting to how Mumei is flat out stronger than Irys anyways.

>>22988496
I still think Millie's an idiot because she does isn't any different than what the holos do but I guess her being with her butt buddy that she doesn't even collab with nearly as often as she used to is more important

https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1517895158146400256

numbers

>>22988518
>One big cause why Mori got a lot more anti after the lean yab. Not all their reason are just but i can understand where they came from
kek, that's because you frequent *this* place. Nobody anywhere else gave even a second thought about it but this place...

Here is a secret
>ʷᵉ ᵃʳᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ᵇᵃᵈ ᵍᵘʸˢ
SSHHHH! Don't tell anyone!

If you want to enjoy drama free chuubas again, just do a 360 and walk away to a more innocent place where this sort of thing is laughed away instead of dissected, amplified, poisoned and spread

>>22988599
It's like what the Star do too. Someone with PL like Fuma could easily be in Niji and 30 40x his number.

>>22987632
>"I'm joining this big VTuber corp because I want to make new friends"
Ina...Ina...Ina...
Noeru...

>>22988683
The impressive part is it's a full ID song too, not like Moona's originals which were JP and EN.
And that's without mentioning that it was composed and written by her too.

ANON WHERE'S THE TALLY?!! CAN'T WAIT FOR THE KUZUHA LEWD HOLY SHIT

>>22987632
>Realise how stupid that sound ?
kek, There are the examples given at >>22988741 but also Botan and Reine.

Reminder that some holos joined Holo just because they were fans of a holo

For tomorrow, how much are we cringing about this overlap?
Ina is a maybe still, but Ame, Bae, and Kronii are all going to fucked if Gura streams.

>>22988722
true, it's really dumb to just expect someone to always search for the best corpo to join for monetary/success reasons, not everyone is like that.

>>22988038
>6 out of 7 are karaokes for nijiEN
what will be the meta next month? new wave?

>>22988719
Anon i came to this place to enjoy Holo more.
Live discussion on Holo stream and Chuba in general is almost non-existent outside here. Also everyone outside here who give a shit about it just simply move on (what i did), anyone who keep nagging about it will simply got shut down for the sake of well.. positivity, that's why they came here.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>36,934: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>29,010: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,249: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,789: Mito (Nijisanji)
>22,238: Miko (Hololive)
>20,961: Miko (Hololive)
>20,808: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,853: Mio (Hololive)
>17,445: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,478: Botan (Hololive)
>16,052: Okayu (Hololive)
>14,523: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,473: Noel (Hololive)
>12,620: Hizuki (Neo Porte)
>12,563: Korone (Hololive)
>11,644: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,511: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,904: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>10,751: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,696: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,327: Kanata (Hololive)

>>22988993
>Anon i came to this place to enjoy Holo more.

>>22988947
I'm actually really curious to see how well Fauna does. Ina isn't streaming which was already confirmed, so she has like 5 hours alone on a brand new game and it's asscreed.

>>22988947
Mumei gonna stream too, it's either The Sims 4 or Doom 2016
idk about numbers probably Sims might get higher

>>22988422
Baelz is really the only miscast one. Ame is fine, Sana could be fine if she streamed. Irys' model is just bad, no one would want to fit a goblin.

>>22988994
Kek Vox briefly got 10055 because he got a 1.4k funnel from Mysta ending, but it missed the cutoff time.
Feels like Flare...

>>22988947
Gura is doing a member stream now so you can count her out.

>>22988496
>Chigusa, from NijiJP
Is it just rrat?
>Mille from NijiEN
She was recommended by Moona, but that doesn't mean she definitely has a spot. At that time, there was no information about the audition for ID3

>>22989094
>Baelz is really the only miscast one.
I remember when some posters were buzzing it was supposed to be Kyoresu. I kinda believed it too with kyo going on hiatus and wiping their twitch archived leading up to council. Unsure how that cast wouldve gone

>>22989097
kek, sorry Vox, better luck next time.

>>22989060
Shit posting is pretty fun, and positivity can be amplified a lot without the restriction of polite language. Why are you here then?

>>22989252
>Is it just rrat?
Likely yes

>>22989252
>She was recommended by Moona, but that doesn't mean she definitely has a spot.
She definitely had a spot. Cover would have to be too fucking dumb to pass the chance to get an established streamer with a pre existing connection to the existing girls, and I mean TOO FUCKING DUMB, not just Cover regular dumb

>>22989297
>Why are you here then?
For the lulz, like I assume everybody else is here.

>>22989072
>Assassin's Creed Black Flag
Moona's numbers playing it from almost a year ago:
>Avg/Peak
>619/729
>1,182/1,459
>934/1,140
>1,160/1,450
>953/1,207

Granted it's Moona and those are around her usual game numbers if she's not playing Minecraft or singing. She got 1,179/1,723 with Vampire Survivor.
Fauna can probably get 8k just from lack of overlap.

>>22988994
KING I KNEEL

>>22988994
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken Human fall flat
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Kanata return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D Birthday Concert
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) -36,934 - Valorant

> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte
1x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
2x: Okayu, Kanata
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko, Kuzuha

>>22988132
the fuck? Mysta was floating around the 8k-9k range, Shu and Luca took him to 14k yesterday.
... or are we talking about a different stream?

>>22988994
MY KING... I.... I....
>KNEEL!

>>22988994
kuzuking-sama...I KNEEL!!

>>22989335
Alright so you're just making shit up and then passing it off as fact, cool.

>>22989453
Different stream anon

>>22988994
>nijishitters got 1 gold
hololive....... reclining........

Don't let any of this distract you from the fact nijisanji only won a single gold this month

>>22988994

>>22988599
>>22988496
that analogy doesn't make sense in the entertainment industry. If you want to make good money while being relaxed, then Hololive is a better choice. You're still getting paid with a salary too while NijiEN chose to stream like 6 times per week or more. Not to mention, jumping into VCs for impromptus. It's hard to say that they're there to make friends and have fun when most of the males are numberfagging and milking money out of celebrations.

>>22989377
Elaborate? Genuinely curious.

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes:
>5624: Kobo (Hololive ID)
>5184: Kobo (Hololive ID)
>2922: Ollie (Hololive ID)
>2065: Iofi (Hololive ID)
>1792: Zeta (Hololive ID)
>1622: Reine (Hololive ID)
>1455: Kaela (Hololive ID)
>1337: Ollie (Hololive ID)
>938: Risu (Hololive ID)
>876: Risu (Hololive ID)
>683: Ollie (Hololive ID)
>679: Reine (Hololive ID)
>453: Riksa (Nijisanji)
>415: Nia (MAHA5)
>280: Taka (Nijisanji)
>251: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>235: Andi (MAHA5)
>210: Kevin (MAHA5)

>>22988993
>Live discussion on Holo stream and Chuba in general is almost non-existent outside here
???
reddit and discord seem to be the type of places you're looking for, the Holo Discord is far more active than this place.

>>22989480
Anon, I'm relaying a couple of rrats that are well known in this place.

>>22989453
Today, he was floating around the 6-7k range and then peaked at 9.9k when Luxiem called in.

>>22989526
WUT?! You don't know about
>DOING IT FOR THE LULZ
!?

That will take lots of lurking to figure out. Here, to help enlighten you

>Q: What does spending 11 bucks and saying "some of you guys are alright, don't go to school tomorrow" have in common?
>A: Both did it for the lulz

>>22989546
reddit has no live discussion, i can't even call people retards on discord

>>22989489
schizo is still around kek

>>22989526
Let me ask you then. The majority of people outside of /here/ didn't really care about the "lean yab" because it was pretty obvious that she was trying to ape nigger culture and obviously had zero idea about what lean even was.
And hell, there are still deadbeats posting /here/ and are completely unaffected by this "yab" of hers, because it was an honest to god nothingburger.

What was it about this arc that turned you off from her, assuming your initial assertion that you actually used to watch her streams?

>>22989546
Reddit has almost zero live discussion anon. And i have bad experience with Discord group so for me Discord is most reserve for my group of friend.

>>22989645
it doesn't have the same zing tho heh, it must have ruined his month

>>22989508
like I said anon, not everyone is aiming to make "good money", they might just want to make "acceptable amount of money", I'm not saying it's optimal, just their choice.

>>22989682
He let this board color his opinions of streamers. It happens to alot of people here and even in this very thread i see it all the time.

>>22989060
I unironically come here to amplify my enjoyment of event streams. No place brings the hype for Hololive events more than hlgg.
>last year's sports festival was the closest thing I've seen to peak /sp/ pre-flags. From Miko rigging red light green light to white and red team bantz.
>HoloFes would not be half as kino as it was for me if I couldn't gosling together with hlgg

>>22988994
Fucking finally.
Thank you King for delivering us from the Hal timeloop.

>>22989565
hmm
I'm guessing it's just the back to back celebration thing. The first time he hit it, people were there to say "I WAS HERE".
After that I suppose it didn't really have much value to tourists?

>>22989438
Yikes Nijinigger behavior giving Kuzuha the gold today. What happened to your convictions with giving Hal the gold on the 12th over Kuzuha? You converted to a nijisister now? Disgusting man, pathetic even

>>22989786
I don't think such simple minded folks should be /here/ then... this place is the ultimate filter to see whether you swing with the crowd (of two schizos) or stand by your own opinions.

>>22989682
I find the Lean yab reaction here is pretty retard too. It's the whole arc of her own meltdown before and during it that turned me off. I follow closely with the content creator that i enjoy, following her and defend her behavior, trying to rationalize it tired me out, i know she's not gonna change so i move on,

>>22988994

>>22989929
More like he mostly scrolling through his art tag this time and he was overlapping with Vox the entire time too, whereas last time, he was playing a crane game and had practically no overlap (Only Ike doing free chat).
If he didn't have the call-ins from Ike and Shu in the end he wouldn't have even broken 7.5k. Alban and Sonny only brought him up to 7.3k.

I'm lowkey salty that he funneled enough to Vox for him to get 10k for literally 1s, because it would've been funny if neither of them got 10k today with buff content.

>>22988994
> APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,512 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken Human fall flat
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Kanata return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D Birthday Concert
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) -36,934 - Valorant

> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte
2x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Okayu, Kanata, Kuzuha
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko

>>22988994

>>22989997
I unironically come /here/ just to look at the shitposts and those "oh no no no holobros/nijikek" and get a good laugh out of it.

>>22990106
Put in Valorant watchalong

>>22990084
Yeah the cuckbeat thing was definitely far worse than the lean one, since she was sperging out a bit during that time.
A lot of her fans just criticized her lack of professionalism and took her at her word that she would work on not being such a retard all the time.
But it's also understandable to stop following her after that. Just don't let her live rent-free in your head if you go down that route.

>>22990090
I'm actually surprised that Nijis are powerful enough to have a 3k funnel now.

>>22988994
I actually like this art a lot. Koshien was a fun month last year. Learned more about Nijis than ever before just from following it.

>>22990138
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,512 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken Human fall flat
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Kanata return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D Birthday Concert
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) -36,934 - ZETA Valorant watchalong

> PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte
2x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Okayu, Kanata, Kuzuha
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko

>>22990250
Luxiem only funnels each other and sometimes Noctyx.
And I haven't seen a 3k funnel yet. Vox only got 1.4k today and he lost 500 almost immediately afterwards.

>>22990126
Yeah that's a good mentality to have /here/.
This place is probably the funniest chuuba community, despite all the schizos. Plenty of times I've laughed my ass off at some retarded post or an OC from /here/.

>>22990278
Nice thanks. Had you put only valorant, people would think he got it out of playing valorant lol.

>>22990341
this place is more entertaining than any other chuuba discussion forum, the soundposts and inside jokes are the best part

>>22990278
Kill yourself

>>22988496
Nah pre 2020 Nijisanji dominated the industry so most female talents of course went to Niji back in the day. Hololive meteoric rise was something nobody can predict even the talents themselves. People used to laugh at Luna when she jumped ship from Niji to Holo and that was only in the beginning of 2020.
Since late 2020 NijiJP has been slowing down with barely new female members, this is understandable because many female talents hoping a chance to join Hololive. Remember the ratio of applicant for Holo audition spring 2021 was 1:1200 according to Subaru which is crazy high at that time.

>>22990483

>>22990524

>>22990126
>>22990341
The horse race of numbers inclining in real time, for grownup posters, does not slip posts, wont even break [insert number] posts, oh no no, and did we get too cocky posts, has unironically improved the entertainment value of streams for me. I used to just watch achives of MC collabs only (I'm very picky). Numbers thread made me tune into every special event streams now.
Thank you numberbros-No, numberCHADS.

>>22990216
My love for my Oshi triumph all that shit by a large miles. I don't know if this board really affect my opinion on her for the worse, but she has always been a good person, just unhappy childish after it (for me). I'm mostly content with hearing about her from other girls now.

>>22990546

Here anons, admit it!
>were the baddies

ADMIT IT!
>APOLOGIZE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsfpKPMFsmU

>>22990605
finally got unbanned huh?

>Tibetians, inuits, and china under attack by Japan
Isn't this show kinda yab?

>>22990575
who, if I may ask? EN?

>>22990627
I’m the only innocent person here, never ever would do anything to get banned

>>22988994
APRIL 2022 SILVER
>1) 28,711: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>2) 40,046: Flare (Hololive) Bday Totsumachi
>3) 41,660: Marine (Hololive) Chat
>4) 30,517: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) FIFA 22
>5) 40,720: Gura (Hololive) Unarchived Karaoke
>6) 47,573: Subaru (Hololive) Minecraft
>7) 31,050: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>8) 31,199: Suzuya Aki (Nijisanji) 3D reveal
>9) 28,980: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) New outfit reveal
>10) 32,757: Subaru (Hololive) FF7 Remake
>11) 40,178: Pekora (Hololive) Cooking stream
>12) 36,464: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX scrims
>13) 38,117: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>14) 59,160: Vox (Nijisanji) Unarchived Karaoke
>15) 32,049: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>16) 52,114: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX scrims
>17) 119,105: Aqua (Hololive) APEX VSaikyou S4 Tournament
>18) 32,776: Fuwa (Nijisanji) Bday
>19) 19,075: Uki (Nijisanji) Unarchived Karaoke
>20) 37,789: Lauren (Nijisanji) Nipple Apology
>21) 40,135: Watame (Hololive) 3D Janken Totsu
>22) 18,979: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>23) 29,010: Pekora (Hololive) Nyanko Daisensou

NIPPLE IS NOT FORGOTTEN

>>22990650

>>22990687
I'm still salty that migochi didn't slip when it mattered the most.

>>22990546
This threads the only reason i pay attention to streamers that arent my oshi and 2 others. The vox karaoke for example was one of the greater threads. The roller coaster of that one was a gut buster all because of this thread

>>22990735
Her slip slip

>>22990627
he's posting from an iphone, what do you think?

>>22990650
Hey stop using my oshi ya fcktoad

>>22990687
>APRIL 2022 SILVER
>20) 37,789: Lauren (Nijisanji) Nipple Apology
PAIN

>>22990782
You’re all accomplices!

>>22990735
Indeed.
Gold reposts are easier to justify as we go further away from April because namba wan. I don't know how to immortalize Nippleboy when May comes. Suggestions are welcome

>>22988994
APRIL 2022 BRONZE
>1) 25,993: Lamy (Hololive) The closing shift
>2) 39,276: Gura (Hololive) Myth 3D Twister
>3) 38,197: Towa (Hololive) Karaoke
>4) 27,719: Pekora (Hololive) There is no game
>5) 30,288: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX collab
>6) 42,536: Pekora (Hololive) Minecraft
>7) 24,885: Kanae (Nijisanji) Mario Party Collab
>8) 28,742: Pekora (Hololive) Vampire Survivors
>9) 25,670: Subaru (Hololive) FFVII Crisis Core FINALE
>10) 31,501: Shion (Hololive) Singing til 1 million
>11) 37,222: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>12) 25,370: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>13) 37,464: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX VSaikyou S4
>14) 39,712: AZKi (Hololive) Gyaku-totsu
>15) 28,351: Pekora (Hololive) Elden Ring
>16) 37,926: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX scrims
>17) 86,616: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX VSaikyou S4 Tournament
>18) 32,623: Hal (Neo Porte) APEX VS4 Lookback
>19) 18,427: Noel (Hololive) Elden Ring
>20) 28,401: Subaru (Hololive) Marshmallow Q&A
>21) 37,528: Pekora (Hololive) Granblue Fantasy
>22) 18,878: Gura (Hololive) Food Review
>23) 25,249: Subaru (Hololive) FREE TALK

THE UNCONTESTED BRONZE

>>22990848
One day he’ll get gold (when is his bday? debut anniversary?) and the lewds will all be JAV nipple covers

>>22990848
>I don't know how to immortalize Nippleboy when May comes.
Lauren will always be nippleboy from now on.
His Apex numbers are not bad now and his SC numbers for events is always insane so he will always have a place in /#/ for us to call him by his nickname.

>>22990647
Well you now know why the replies are slow. Her closet the Ghosting Queen and Dog .

>>22978745
Oh hey the Airasia vtuber did well enough for themselves to debut two new people

Gura confirmed the karaoke tomorrow is members only.

>>22990901
Lauren Iroas
Debut: July 22, 2021
Birthday: September 6
Also pic rel

We have plenty of time, and plenty of materials.

>>22991080
That rules out Gura for gold then.
The contenders for 4/24 are Kuzuha, Marine and Mikecat.

>>22991171
Mikecat easy, she'll get at least 40k floor

>>22991171
why does Goom hate golds

>>22991171
Michael Cat Gold

>>22991296
Do people really think Gura karaoke could even come close to Mikecat debut in anyway ?

>>22991498
nah, but it was worth a shot.

King 30k get.

>>22991772
Only in 30 mins too so he's probably going to end up with 40k+ if this goes long.
#Zetawin is trending for me wtf.

>>22991810
So this is the placeholder gold to beat for next tally?

>>22990913
>His Apex numbers are not bad now
We'll see when the yab buff wears off. I think it's pretty likely he fucks up in some way again.