/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22952746
>Kronii's latest members stream
Why am I reading this then?
>she wants to bring her family with her minus the said shitty person
That's retarded though I can understand using your parents as slaves.

I will believe you for no reason. Also why didn't my filter pick up Kronii.

>>22952881
>Kronii's

>>22952746
new rrat: male family member molested her hot gook body and now she hates men

>>22952746
kronii love

>>22952881
>lamy fag
>filtering kronii
like pottery

i think you should mind your own damn business dramanigger

What if she gets attacked mid-stream?

>>22953087
Yes that is exactly what I did! I don't like Kronii. She's not funny. Good post anon! You owned me.

>>22952746
Why would she say that on stream if the dude knows she's in Hololive. This guy seems deranged and dangerous he could find a way to use that against her

>>22953217
she probably as dumb as Rushia

>>22952746
If this were true why the fuck would she mention it even in a member's stream? Try harder with bait next time

>>22953350
It really happened, retard. Don't make me link you a streamable

>>22953350
because the guy only watches public streams

She confirmed she'll be moving in with Mumei.

>>22953416
No balls

>>22952746
Nigga you just literally copy pasted this from hlgg thread

>>22953568
who's pegging who?

>>22953618
Me

>>22953618
>he doesn't know about Mumei's tiny owl cock

>>22953614
It's the truth, who cares

>>22953614
And they've been copy pasting it since the fucking stream happened. Shits fucked all over. I get that Kronii saying this is retarded in its own right but she meant well and just wanted to explain her absence the past week (and sounding blasted in the ER stream)
Now this shits gonna be spammed on the catalog and in global for the next week

>>22952746
anyone got a vod of this

>>22952746
>Thoughts on this?
She ought to consider hiring a bodyguard with the money she gets from her horny schizos.

>>22953217
spoiler: women exaggerate their problems for attention and sympathy

>kronii dealing with this
>kiara posting on her roommate that she's dealing with stalkers at mcdonalds
bros is this the start of a new arc im scared

>>22954643
You sound like an ass

>>22954695
>some dude happened to sit nearby her
>OMG CREEP STALKER

>>22954695
yeah turns out the holo's were the real schizo's all along

>>22954899
dont use my oshii to break rule 1 nigger

Well that sound a little paranoia

>>22954884
nah I've just dealt with women a lot, you get used to it

Remember, if you don't have a scizo in your family, chances are... you're the schizo and everybody hates you

>>22954971
What if my whole family is schizos and I'm just like them?

>>22953568
>Mumei Mentioned
I love Mumei!!!

>>22952746
I wish I was Kronii's abusive husband

>>22955042
If everybody is a schizo the no one is

I want to protect Kronii with my dick.

>>22954952
Anon you dont need to lie

Just buy a gun.

>>22955293
.t has never spoken to a woman, not even a relative

>>22954899
>entire store is empty
>dude tries to sit down at her table, needs to be told repeatedly not to
Probably not a stalker, definitely a creep.

>>22952881
Babu

>>22955544
Why is she even eating alone inside at a mcdonalds anyway? Drive-thru exists for a reason.

>>22955434
Please dude you talk like sitcome retard "uuuuhhh all the woman are the same" at least get some personality

>>22952746
>>her fear of men may had stem from this family member
I refuse to feel sympathy for someone who blames all men over the actions of 1 imagine thinking being like this will garner sympathy from any man with self respect let alone men your supposed to be selling yourself too as desirable and attractive
let me know when she stops with the garbage retarded all men are trash bullshit and i will start caring about her problems

>>22955677
Are you really blaming her for not using drive-thru and not the stalker?

>>22955544
his only flaw was not being hot

>>22952746
Kronii confirmed to be family with Russian oligarchs. Seriously, she needs to be graduated and given the Hitomi Chris treatment ASAP.

>>22955906

>>22955677
Because drive-throughs are dumb, sitting and eating inside empty fast food joints is comfy.

>>22955677
I guess drive-thrus don't exist in "Australia".

>>22956630

>>22956043
yes, see
>>22956257

>>22954695
an arc as old as time

>>22955906
She resents her mom a lot but it's better being with her than whoever the fuck is abusive in her family.

women: the thread

>>22956630
Of course I make scenarios in my own head. It's because I want fiction to exist in reality without understanding the consequences that would entail for myself and others.
I simply wish for something to happen and be alright because I do not fully believe in my own self at times.
As a result I descend further and further into my own psyche and discuss amongst the many thoughts I have.
I play out the scenarios and review them upon their conclusion. The majority of these thoughts are selfish and highly unstable and as a result I simply dispose of them.
Unfortunately I also entertain thoughts due to my own self-coping mechanisms created by me.
I've gradually gotten better but things still disrupt my train of thought.

>>22957923
schizophrenia

>>22952746
A lot of people know Kronii's identity already, so unless he's going to doxx her address....

>>22955677
She lives in Europe, which has public transportation and walkable roads. Not every place is an infrastructure nightmare like burgerland

>>22957775
That i can toast too abuse is nasty nobody should go through it but blaming all men in general isn't gonna solve the problem that's something i don't swing with that's a form of abuse in itself.

>>22955906
Way to be an empathy anon, I'm sure you're very popular

>>22956257
Even if he was hot he'd be a creep. Your incel side is showing, anon!

>>22957923
A FORM OF ABUSE ITSELF BAWHAHAHAHAHA OHHH MY GODDDDDD

>>22958265
see >>22958247

>>22958448
See >>22957923

>>22958334
Women don't mind being approached by strangers if they're good-looking. The only exception is if they're actually busy with something or in a hurry to get somewhere, but in that case, he'd just be seen as an annoyance, not a creep.

>>22958616
Good looking and not cyborgs.

>>22958184
She's also surrounded by rapist immigrants and broke pod dwellers that pay all their income in rent and taxes. In America you can travel a few miles out from any city and end up deep innawoods. Europoors hate cars because they're cattle and with a car you can go anywhere you want.

>>22958616
I'm literally a fucking woman you stupid fucking incel, and I hate presumptuous insecure assholes like you who think they're problems all stem from the fact they're not attractive enough

>>22958616
mate the post you're replying to needs to be repeated to you apparently.
reality is, being good looking would make that specific situation even more awkward and unwanted

>>22958605
I ant gonna do this if you have seen her personal tweets about men you would know. But be a faggot by all means. Its seanigger hours anyway have fun in your mud huts being mad.

>>22958692
lmao post tits you seething roastie

>>22957923
you can just say "i saw a very out of context twitter screenshot and got butthurt" im not gonna be mad just stop posting about it

I find op hard to believe.
Where's the streamable?

>>22958989
no

>>22954695
Ever since I've heard of Vtubers I thought this would happen.
It's like me knowing the Halo series would be shit- I hate to be proven right

>>22958683
>rapist immigrants
t. knows nothing about Europe

>>22958692
Every woman I know met their boyfriend at some weird location that common sense would tell you to never approach a woman, like the grocery store or a bus stop. They always make an exception for chad.

>>22958692
There are no women on the internet, ya dingus.

i am unironically going to start reading some of the material that was in the last thread

>>22959178
Neither do the rapist immigrants and that never stops them B)

>>22959178
Yeah, he should know that European men don't care that their women are raped.

>>22954909
Like oshi, like fanbase

>>22952988
That's how faggots and troons are born so not too much of a reach

>>22953153
Someone better archive that shit

>>22958692
Seethe more whore

>>22958692
fake and gay

>>22959350
At least they're not raicst

>>22959588

>>22959350
that's what decades of being brainwashed by feminism does

>>22958334
>>22958692
Yeah, it's definitely a red flag if ANYONE tries to interject themselves into your space when it's not some kind of social environment meant for it. They've usually got some kind of problem. It's possible to say hello to someone without being absolutely fucking creepy about it. (continuously trying and / or holding a grudge upon rejection if the other isn't interested) There are still certain spaces that aren't built for that kind of stuff, where people likely mind their own business. There are also spaces MEANT for mingling and talking to others that people should choose if they do want to do that kind of stuff. The world isn't some kind of anime or novel.
If someone thinks they're so important that someone else MUST stop what they're doing to pay attention to them, that person has problems. (And what you're doing DOES NOT MATTER, even if its something as simple as eating)
People just don't want to admit they're being socially inept or creeps, and the world doesn't revolve around them. Or they don't want to admit their actions would be creepy or weird, or don't want to think they're a creepy or weird person. To not even understand an inkling on why a person that approaches others like that could potentially be dangerous is a sure sign of being absolutely fucking oblivious to how others feel around them. Most girls will think better of others if they actually back off and leave it upon being rejected, like a normal healthy fucking person.
Others shouldn't try and pretend that they wouldn't get at least slightly annoyed if some stranger did this to them, especially if they didn't feel like talking, especially at a fucking Mcdonalds of all places.

>>22959902
Kiara, please...It was probably just some autist...

>>22959902
this dude really wrote an essay to white knight some troon

>>22953416
>doesnt link the proof
get better bait

>>22959777
she's not gonna fuck you bro

>>22959902
cool post bro. hope she sees this.

>>22960720
meant for
>>22959902

Man this thread went from shit to absolutely retarded whatever mods are doing

>>22952746
the gooks don't have it in them to do anything actually illegal
especially not canadian gooks

>>22959902
you sound like a faggot

>>22952746
Where does she live? Can't she just shoot em?

What do I do with myself once I've realized that vtubers making millions of dollars are more mentally ill than I am

>>22960359
>>22960720
>>22960904
>>22962296
BTFO'd

>>22958692
seethe

>>22955677
She can't drive and is retarded. So that Maccas thing is probably also bullshit.

>>22952988
Alcoholic abusive Korean dad's are more common than one might think.

You know, I'd like to pretend I have respect for Kronii but she really should just keep quiet about this shit if it's even true. You don't have to explain to retards why you've had a rough week, it's none of their business. If they actually cared they'd quit funding you and then they wouldn't see your explanation anyway.

>>22963559
I don't think you can be more than 100%. I've never heard a story of a Korean father who wasn't a homicidal maniac.

How the hell did a thread like this expose some unironic incels.

>>22958904
While that image is highly relatable I'm actually suffering from a lack of sleep and consuming 32 oz water in one go thus resulting in loopy brain syndrome.
Tyler is just the type of dude I would want to call me out on my bullshit.

>>22964443
Take a long hard look into it a seethe more that not everyone believes in the same opinions as you.

>>22964443
How can you unironically be an ironic buzzword?

>>22964443
first day on 4chinz?

>>22959902
You wanna know how I know you've never been on a date before?
You could never find a situation where it wouldn't be creepy to ask a girl out.

>>22964443
quote us pussy

>>22964443
because uhuhuhu women bad BAD!

>>22958692
Seethe woman. It’s true.

>>22958692
People make judgements the moment a person tries to start a conversation. It's not like women aren't the only "shallow" people. Our brains are just wired to be attracted to attractive people. Thus our brains won't view such people as threatening unless you've had bad experiences with attractive people. It's why guys and girls lose their mind when a hot person is with a not so hot person. Just accept that girls just as much as guys become monkey brained when approached by an attractive person. When an "incel" claims that women are easier on hotter guys, it takes less than 2 seconds to say all people are easier on hotter people. You just make yourself look like an idiot when you try to challenge his argument by using yourself as an example. The kind of people that respond aggressively to such bait (You) are usually people that have similar problems. In other words, you are probably just as ugly and socially inept as the "incel".

And if the gaslighting is successful, the female (You) will feel anxiety building up until they (You) post a picture of their (You)r tits. So do yourself a favor and stop replying to bait or your tits will be on the archive for all to see.

>>22954695
The mcdonalds 'stalker' is harmless. It was an autistic german who wanted to confirm it was her by approaching, but was too socially retarded to announce that he was just a fan who wanted to meet her.
https://twitter.com/SpaceCat998/status/1516832071800475653

>>22965383
The fact that he's actually a stalker and not just an awkward faggot male who is seen as creepy moves him from harmless to actual threat you retard.

>>22965383
thats a stalker retard

>>22964861
The internet seems to really hate anything depicting actually hitting on a woman. So much porn positivity and comedy about being forever alone, but actually just having the guts to act on attraction to a stranger is nigh villainous. It can always be framed as 'problematic' because the initiator (a man, mostly... always) has to exhibit some amount of self-centeredness in believing they're 'worthy' enough to interrupt someone else's day. The guy can always be seen as the 'bad guy autist aggressor that can't read body language'.
Makes me think of that time Elira said she got hit on, nothing else done by the guy, not a sex pest, didnt follow her around. "Oooooh, Scaaaaary" "omg wtf be careful!" "Terrifying" "Can you get a police escort?"

>>22953217
Cause it was in a members stream and its unlikely he would hand over money just for that tidbit

>>22966735
Elira did get followed around, what are you talking about

>>22966735
Reactions like theirs are why the only way to safely start conversations with girls anymore is on fucking tinder

>>22964155
Coreans are psychopaths. All of them.

All those rules like not hitting on women at locations x y and z or only putting out til the 3rd date go out the window if she's attracted to you. Otherwise you're a stalker creep that ruined her day.

>>22966125
>>22966595
>kids today don’t even know what stalker means anymore
If you walk into a McDonalds, see a person you recognize, and then act like a social retard, you’re not a stalker.

>>22964861
This. You can either stay safe from ever getting though of as creepy and never talk to women, or you can take an occasional risk and accept that it make backfire. You're never going to get any pussy if you don't approach women eventually. Maybe not while they're eating at a mcdonalds, but you have to take the dive somewhere.

>>22965323
>It's why guys and girls lose their mind when a hot person is with a not so hot person.
No they don't. An ugly guy with a hot woman is normal.
>Just accept that girls just as much as guys become monkey brained when approached by an attractive person
Yeah fight or flight.
I dunno how you could pretend you would be fine with an attractive person coming up trying to sit with you in McDonalds.

>>22967290

>>22966735
I just don't bother talking to women in general unless it's in a professional context. It's just not worth the risk.

>>22958692
trannies like you don't count lmao

>>22967353
Wait, are you pretending that's what happened? If you tauntingly mock the person complaining about you confirming you knew who they were and you want them scared, that's pure stalker behavior. If you were just an accidental autist, you would keep it to yourself and maybe be embarrassed that your oshi hates you. Granted, she is stupid herself for publicly sharing these stories all the time but you'll notice when she does the people she's talking about are in her comments. They are actual stalkers. The people defending this guy are doing so from the premise he was just trying to flirt with a pretty girl, not that he actually is knowingly harrassing someone he cums to online.

>>22967621
he just happened to see her in a public place he was in at the same time as her by pure coincidence, he didn't follow her anywhere

>>22967940
Yeah sure, just like he was only coincidentally carrying a knife

>>22967621
>Wait, are you pretending that's what happened?
Wait, are you pretending you were there?
Fucking retards all over this board.

>>22968027
It's okay if he had a knife license

>>22954643
Not gonna deny most women are indirect but attention seeking is a problem child thing that occurs very often. Oversharing is something I've seen in both men and women.

>>22967377
Friendly reminder male black widows have to approach with a gift and mate quickly as she eats the gift then GTFO before she finishes. At any point things can go wrong and he becomes lunch either after or before mating.

>>22953618
double ender, simultaneous cumming

>>22968305
The gift is often empty too lol. A wrapped web package and by the time the female unwraps the present only to find that she's been gypped she also finds that she's been stealthily fucked and impregnated as well. Like a weird hypnosis hentai.

>>22967940
>>22968171
I guess you zoomers are so used to living in fantasy land that you think this is just acceptable behavior in society. Real harmless autists aren't like this guy at all. I don't give a flying fuck what he did in person, he could have whipped his dick out and placed it on her table and I could dismiss that as "that's what she deserves for living in a third world shithole". I mean, that's the sort of stuff everyone will encounter at some point in public. But the fact that he wants to be publicly identified as the stalker is a huge red flag. It moves him from awkward weirdo or deranged lunatic to malicious actor. It changes the tone from "oh, this reminds me of when I tried to talk to girls in school" to "oh yeah, she does live in a part of the world where famous women are kidnapped and raped for months by gangs of apes that are above the law".

>>22964861
>>22966735
>>22967377
The post is about doing it in a creepy way and not backing down when she seems disinterested or rejects it. It also said there's times and places for it. Big difference between respecting boundaries people place and never talking to anyone. Not everything has to be black and white. If you can't tell the difference between having a normal human interaction and being creepy, that's on you.

>>22969414
Name ONE place where women are generall okay with being approached. Hint: it's nowhere. And don't say bars or clubs because those are for girls nights out.

>>22969358
>misuse the word stalker
>get called out for being a retard
>double down
>realize you’re a retard
>pretend you were arguing about whether it’s acceptable behavior or not

>>22969519
Oh, you're pretending that's what you were upset about. That he didn't follow her into the restaurant but just bumped into her there and then stalked her which is totally acceptable and a good thing actually! My bad.

>>22969516
no one woman ever complained chad hit on her

>>22968305
>>22969126
H-hot

>>22969516
That's still black and white.
What is this 'being approached'?
There should always be a legitimate reason, it's not like an RPG where you just talk to people to see what they say.

>>22958692
>I'm literally a fucking woman you stupid fucking incel, and I hate presumptuous insecure assholes like you who think they're problems all stem from the fact they're not attractive enough
Their problems go far deeper than that though, and are more diverse than just being insecure.

>>22953416
Proof

>>22967353
you are pretending its was an oopsie doopsie

>>22958692

>>22959902
This board has so many white knights

wonder if I did this right

>>22965383
>this looks identical to my local McDonalds on the other side of the world
Mana was right. Capitalisms must be destroyed.

>>22966973
Which is a waste of time as well unless you’re a 10/10 chad

>>22969800
Indeed
niggas lost their balls before they understood they had a pair the modern man in a nutshell.

>>22965383
>a fan
>retweeting a bunch of anti shit

>>22969880
You're weird if you think it's a bad idea.

>>22952746
I love how all of that is fake and you only posted it because you read all the bait in the kronii split, what a baka

>>22969987
The arrangement of every single piece of furniture and equipment is identical. Even the prices are the same despite different costs of living. It's completely insane.

>>22970036
So this thread is still talking about Kronii. I lost track through all of the shit

>>22954695
I haven't seen anything there

Wasn't she supposed to do some philosophy members? What'd she do in it, actually discuss philosophy or depressingly mumble?

>>22970148
I'm a retard, I was looking at the wrong roommate
Stay on one topic damnit

>>22969586
>and then stalked her
So you really don’t know what stalking is.

>>22969987
It seems unlikely it's true, restaurants are infamously not actually the same in different countries and just use the branding. It's part of the appeal for travelers, to go to the same restaurant on the other side of the world and get all the items you can't get at home. If they were the same, that would be a dystopian nightmare.

>>22969880
>>22970260
The main goal of McDonald’s is to provide the exact same experience no matter where you are.

>>22970113
What would be insane is designing the interiors individually when there is like a million restaurants, you going to let the managers decide what it looks like? That would be retarded.
>>22970260
Menu sure, but visually they're real similar. I think they're even the exact same as they were when I was a kid.

>>22970313
Having the same food is one thing. Turning the entire world into a pre-arranged fast food Ikea is another. It reminds me of The World's End sequence with all the near identical bars.

>>22969516
I'm going to give honest advice here, since I am a girl who has had a lot of awkward encounters outside of social events and some in social events. I generally don't mind people talking to me, but there are some people who are just plain weird. I love small talk and don't mind engaging in it. A lot of my friends also don't mind it. This advice is mainly for irl, but it all applies to online as well since you can meet a lot of friends with similar interests online.
I've gotten along with people at work when times have been slower, hanging out with friends, or going to conventions.
Most networking and friendships are made with a shared interest or between other friends. If you try to extend yourself into your community, you can find groups to network through. The internet makes that even easier nowadays, it's easier to find groups or community events if you look for them. There's even apps for dating or friendships.
Believe it or not, there are more places for adults to get to know each other beyond bars and clubs, but they're still proper places. Some of my friends don't mind getting approached while at bars / clubs. That's actually how my parents met, when both of their friend groups were having a night out. Talk to people and find out? If they're uninterested, it's a no. This extends to talking to people in general spaces, too.
Odds are, if you're worried that you might come off as a rapist or a weirdo, then you might actually come off as creepy and need to re-evaluate how you approach people. Don't blame the world for your problems, learn from them. If people think its their looks, taking more care of your personal hygiene will take you a long way and is a good first step.
It's not black and white. You just don't know how to talk to people, let alone women. Bottom line: If you start a conversation with someone, anywhere, if they're disinterested, back off. Plus, it's always better to find situations where people are actually there to socialize. Networking through friends is always a good bet. Timing and place is important in all things you do. And I'm not sure how much this applies to you as much as it does others in this thread, but the more you vilify others for rejecting you, the more creepy you'll actually get without realizing it. You might come off as an unapproachable jackass to others without meaning to.

>>22970241
I don't understand why you are making this guy out to be an innocent angel but I do understand that you are either retarded or some out-of-touch boomer who has this idea of stalkers he got from movies made in the 70's but if you look up the definition of stalker, this guy is literally the textbook definition. Unless you are willing to argue he not only accidentally encountered her, accidentally harassed her, accidentally saw her tweet about the incident and then accidentally replied to it with no malicious intent but just pure inability to understand he was being inappropriate and then accidentally had a history of posts dating back years about her.

>>22970524
>Bottom line: If you start a conversation with someone, anywhere, if they're disinterested, back off.
That's reminding me of that Mike Tyson thing

So uh did we ever get that proof that Kronii did say this?

>>22970549
Harassing someone you incidentally meet is not stalking them you fucking mong.

>>22970587
Yeah. I was in Kronii's bedroom when she said it.

>>22970384
>what it looks like?
It's not that it looks like similar. Every single object is near identical and it's the exact same place including the cash registers, delivery screens, and the menu displays. The cooking area is also in the exact same place, although it being the same makes sense since that's the whole point of McDonalds.

>>22970657
>Every single object is near identical and it's the exact same place including the cash registers, delivery screens, and the menu displays
Obviously? I don't get it, you spent way too long listening to dumb people.

>>22969516
I actually enjoy to be approached in places where the point is to enjoy a hobby or multiple person activity. For example, a workshop, arcade, some classroom I'm doing and you're a student too etc
Easy to pick starter conversation too, since you can just talk about the lesson or why you're here in the same place as me

>>22970587
Okay Mumei.

>>22970599
Dude, you cannot be this retarded. There's no evidence he incidentally met her to start off with but you seem to be intentionally failing to grasp what stalking is by pretending his harassment of her ended in the restaurant when you yourself are proudly aware that it didn't.

>>22970695
Being similar is one thing, being the same means that the we live in a dystopia and the world is literally ending.

>>22970524
The only good post in this godforsaken thread

>>22970743
You've never even read a dystopian novel, get a grip.

>>22970818
My copy of 1984 is older than you kid.

>>22971036
That just makes you having not read it worse.

Oh so NOW going after people IRL is suddenly bad?
Ok.

>>22971059
You can feel the backtracking coming already.

>>22971099
Nah mate, it's obvious you know nothing.

>>22971143
Which do you think it's better, 1984, Brave New World, or Fahrenheit 451?

>>22971209
Eragon

>>22971209
Don't really want to talk about it.
I only enjoyed Fahrenheit but it's nothing to do with message, Brave New World and 1984 aren't as entertaining to read as some people claim.

I am an incel, because I am socially retarded with women.

It's more unbelievable that despite being a lawyer, a sought after person as a husband career-wise, and kinda well off in life. I am just a pussy with low T happy and content with being single. It sucks.

Anyways, as an incel, even I think it's ALL ABOUT CIRCUMSTANCES. Sitting in a McDonalds saying nothing to a woman, both of you alone, is weird as hell.

Talk to her, for fucks sakes: "Aren't you keek?? Holy shit I'm your fan!!!" in that situation, you aren't a creepy fuck. That man should've talked to her. It isn't about looks for christsakes, while looks do give you an advantage it doesn't determine if you're gonna get the woman or not.

Have you SEEN the amount of below average people when it comes to looks and them scoring multiple, some beautiful women? It's all about the midset and personality. Incel is a mindset, it is not physical as an incel I understand this

>>22952746
>This load of hot rrat formula
>Not a single webm
I call shenanigans

>>22971474
>Don't really want to talk about it.
That was quick enough.

>>22953087
fat shit

>>22971593
We were never going to discuss it. You made it clear at the very beginning you're an idiot using terms you don't understand.

>>22954643
newfag just do ctrl+s if you wanna spoiler

>>22970524
>>22959902
I just wanted to add, I still think that it's a red flag if someone just tries to randomly interject themselves into my space when its isn't the time and place for it. I have trust issues that I'm aware of, from shitty people, and many of my other friends do too, from shitty people. But I'm not going to think you're a creep until you prove yourself to be a creep, I'm not going to think you're weird until you prove that you're weird (and sometimes weird isn't a bad thing).
Just because something is a red flag and someone is wary of you doesn't always mean they'll hate you, but people have to understand why precautions are put into place. I'm a weak person who previously suffered from severe agoraphobia and is utterly aware of how easily I could be overpowered or even possibly manipulated like I have in the past, so I watch for more red flags. (things aren't always black and white, yadda yadda)

If Kiara's roommate felt creeped out by that guy, it's probably because what he did was actually creepy, and what was described was potentially creepy, but I wasn't there to judge. She's had other situations where people have been even worse to her, so her feelings are understandable if she was immediately on-guard, alone in a place, where someone could've followed her afterwards. It's different if someone says to a streamer "hey I'm your fan" and then sits somewhere NOT immediately by her and doesn't bug her anymore. However, if I were in her shoes and that did happen, I would still personally be slightly worried after that but it wouldn't be as bad. People can be scary.

>>22965383
>beatani fag
>breaks containment
>white
We gotta raise the bar on stalkers dude because this is just sad

>>22971732
R

>>22956043
You can blame the creepy guy for being creepy and be critical of the fact that Kiara is not utilizing means to make herself safer.

>>22970036
I watched the stream dumbass

Of course Kiara would hate a guy trying to talk to her.
Doesn't she cope with her fans by pretending that they're all girls who are basically her daughters?

>>22952746
The fact that she's a tranny probably means that said male figure sexually assaulted her.

>>22971912
What are the odds she's on anavar?

>>22965383
That nigga is 100% a stalker and needs to get his ass beat. Your SEANigger is showing anon. Shit might be normal on whatever shithole 3rd world your from but not in civilized society

>Still not a single clip because muh member content!
Why would she say this? Nobody cares about her depression or any of this besides white knights. She should entertain and not talk about her problems. Vtubing is such shit now it’s just anime live streaming at this point.

>>>/r9k/

>>22958683
Cars are the single biggest cancer on society.
They quite literally ruin everything.
They are also a large reason why I will never ever go to your shithole of a continent (Canada is just as bad with this)

>rapist immigrants
Even if that were true, which it isn't, they'd still be preferable to your state funded mafia you call police.

reminder that hypergamy exist and this femanon is speaking from a place of absolute comfort while looking down on the mentally ill with pity.

>>22972334
If you meant Cats then I agree

>>22962406
throw your meds away

>>22970524
>Bottom line: If you start a conversation with someone, anywhere, if they're disinterested, back off.
>the more you vilify others for rejecting you, the more creepy you'll actually get without realizing it.
I completely understand this, but I feel women assume I don't (which is understandable safety measure). How can I help the fact that as a man I come off as intimidating even though that's never my intention? Of course, I would instantly back off if they told they are not interested (I know some men have trouble with that). Also, how do I tell if the woman is disinterested or just acting nice or being nervous? I could just assume they aren't interested, but that would make all public interaction impossible because I can't imagine a situation where a woman, when approached, would instantly warmly welcome me in their open arms. It feels like some western women are at child's level in ability to consent (say no), and since I don't know who is capable, it would make every encounter potentially immoral.

This is somewhat universal dilemma in interaction between genders, but I feel like nowadays there's not even minimum responsibility for a woman to be able to take part in communicating, and if at any point a woman feels uncomfortable, the blame gets automatically put on the man interacting. Sometimes just for being in a place not interacting. Also, this is all theoretical because I've never approached a woman in public and probably never will in the current climate, because I can't bear such broad and unpredictable responsibility. And of course I'm not talking about all women, everyone can understand what parts might apply to themselves.

not to doompost or anything, but Koreans are fucking nuts. Read about doublelift's family.

>>22972202
Who said it was normal, dumbass? I said it was socially retarded right there. Just because he's socially inept + a troll doesn't mean he's about to commit criminal acts. Work on your reading comprehension you actual projecting SEAnig.

>>22972202
It must suck to live like you

>>22965383
who's be KFPBatman and beat the shit out of this guy?

>>22972581
>implying what he was criticising is a more enjoyable way to live than another

>>22952746
I-I will save her anons

I mean how do you see Kiara eating at a McDonalds and at least not make a KFP joke?

>>22967437
Dick move not telling the other guy.

On Kiara, I think many women will always have a nagging doubt that some random dude will kill or rape them in a back alley while they're out and about. Most men could, too, with how much stronger the average male is than the average female, and a pretty large portion of women have gotten assaulted at some point so this isn't an unfounded fear. This probably goes double for even a micro-celebrity like Kiara. Even if you're legitimately just socially retarded and don't intend to be a creep, it is your responsibility as a man to learn how to carry yourself as a normal person around women in public if only to spare them the grief. Same way you're expected to train a large dog not to bark at people in the street.

>>22971474
Brave new world is pretty fun in the parts with the indian kid.
1984 loses its luster.

HOLY FUCK THIS THREAD IS JUICY, I SHALL SAVE THIS AND READ IT LATER

>>22972839
I refuse to believe it's that bad out there. That kind of anxiety would drive anyone insane

>>22972344
if the shoe fits.

>>22972935
I DON'T CARE IF ITS RRAT OR NOT I WILL NOT TAKE MEDS

>>22972560
isn't DL a chink? his name is fucking Yilliang Peng...

>>22952746
Not my problem

>>22972952
Objective morality exists but it doesn't naturally occur in our thoughts or behaviour.
I dunno about today but people literally chose a woman to spoil, impregnate and then sacrifice both her and the child for luck. And that was white people, the most sane ones.

>>22972839
>it is your responsibility as a man to learn how to carry yourself as a normal person around women in public if only to spare them the grief

>>22973027
All slant-eyes are the same to me. My mistake. I honestly should have put the pieces together from the fact that he didn't have three names. It's been years.

>>22959902
>There are also spaces MEANT for mingling and talking to others
I assume you mean bars and clubs, but either women come in groups(making it awkward to talk to one of them) or it's a sausagefest with possibly drunk and violent people.

Why has nobody called out OP for SPEWING BULLSHIT? I mean, its so unbelievable

>>22956043
yes

>>22973819
Korean family so people are willing to believe anything. If someone told me her parents were theozoologists that defected from the North I would believe it.

>>22971619
You gave up discussing it without even trying kek.

>>22972803
Observing women in action with all the info available is a rare opportunity.

>>22974045
If anything is getting discussed, it's your lack of ability to define a word.
No one wants to talk about some shitty ass books you didn't read with so much discussion around them already there's no way to know if it's even your words.

>>22972559
Sorry for the really long post here!
Everyone is going to be different with this and I will agree, it isn't always straightforward. Most people will attempt to let you down easy. Some people know what it's like to want bluntness, so they will be blunt. Some people will endure if the person is absolutely bonkers or mentally ill. A lot of the people I've met that have a hard time learning how to say 'no' are because of previous abusive encounters where that lead to harm to them, so they had to play along. Still, it's something they've gotta learn or they'll eventually learn the hard away through bad misunderstandings or getting manipulated. If you don't want to deal with that, dodge the bullet.
When you think about it, most people are going to be awkward to approach at first and it's expected, you're not going to be 100% comfortable right off the bat and that's ok. You might always be intimidating to some degree since you're a stranger and they don't know exactly what you want, but for some people all social encounters can be.

Some signs if you're not sure if someone new wants to talk to you:
1. They're not contributing a lot on their end in the conversation and neither are they engaged, and are trying to step away. They're not facing you completely and aren't completely engaged. Bonus if they try to say they've got somewhere to be.
2. In Kiara's case, she was trying to point to other tables that were available and didn't want him to sit at her table, and then he sat next to her. We don't know if either of them said anything, but that is a clue in and of itself.
3. If it's not a two-way conversation (similar to 1), then you're not holding a conversation. This is just a general thing for friendships. No one wants to talk to someone that's full of themselves, and on the opposite side of the spectrum, no one wants to feel like they're being interrogated about their life either.

It could be useful to look up how to keep interesting conversations, and to research 'how to tell if people are interested in you'. You won't hit it off with everyone you talk with. It doesn't hurt to look into how to be more sociable, it's a valid of a skill to learn as any. A lot of charisma isn't completely natural and comes from learning how to understand people. On the flip side, you can look up things from the other person's view, such as 'How to tell someone I'm disinterested' and 'How to get out of an awkward conversation'.
You'll be able to tell when someone is more straightforward and blunt and when someone isn't after awhile.
People prefer different types. The people who aren't straightforward probably aren't the type to like to be approached randomly, you should probably only approach those types in appropriate social settings if they look comfortable. Judging by your preferences, you should probably stick to people who are more bold or try to strike conversations in appropriate settings if you're too anxious about the encounter. Social encounters are incredibly nuanced at times. People should respect that you can't read their mind(and some people don't, so they're not worth it anyways), but it's also important to try to catch onto some social cues since people usually try to be nice. This extends to men and women, it's just personality and upbringing. It's a grey area and you don't need to be perfect since there's a huge difference between "that guys fucking creepy", "that was a little weird but ok", "that was a nice person". It's not necessarily the landmine you think it might be.

Going off of the things you said, you seem to be considerate of those things and the other person's interest so you're *probably* fine. Just because you try to talk to someone, doesn't make it immoral or a horrible experience as long as you're... well, being normal. An immoral experience is pestering someone when they've been clear about their disinterest. Someone outwardly villiainizing you off the bat when you're decent is a sign of you dodging a bullet.
It's always best to stick with small talk at first unless you're in an environment where it's fit for conversation, or unless the small talk turns into conversation. This one dude once approached me when I was putting my cart away and started having small talk about the carts since he worked there, but I could barely hear him and it was late at night. It wasn't a bad experience (since I enjoy small talk), I mentioned how I usually shop later in the day since it's not as busy, and it was shockingly busy the night before. It got a little weird when he said he'd try to buy his milk around the time I came in next. That's when things got a little weird, but I think he was just dropping his spaghetti. Still, those kinds of conversations don't really spark friendships very well as we were complete strangers, which is why it's best to stick to groups with similar interests or connections if you want something deeper. (Plus there's the already established fraction of familiarity)

>>22952988
I don't think anyone suspected anything besides this.

>>22969516
in Church and in touristbait festivals. Oh wait you angloids don't have one

>>22952746
probably just a jealous ex-boyfriend.

what the fuck is going on here lmao

>>22972839
>>22972952
This is ingrained into women growing up because people have often blamed victims for not being prepared enough. A lot of our parents grew up when prolific serial killers were all over the news, too. (Murderers, rapists, sex traffickers, and serial killers still exist and are prominent in the present as well)
That aside, it's still a real possibility and something that happens and something to be concerned for, almost in the sense that you should watch out for dangerous drivers on the road while also practicing road safety. Most women I know have been assaulted, but it's not uncommon knowledge that it's also usually by people you know.
There's always the possibility for you to get mugged as a man when walking alone at night for example. In a women's case, we're weaker even if we train. Not all men are bad, but just like anyone, people can have bad intentions.
Bad things can happen. You can't let that interfere with your life on too grand a scale or else you do begin to develop severe anxiety disorders and mental illnesses. It's how you handle that information.

>>22974369
We're just connecting a few dots here.

>>22974358
>family members
READ ANON READ

>>22972952
>That kind of anxiety would drive anyone insane
Well... look at modern women.

>>22974514
S-she was married?!

>>22969880
It's a McDonald's. Expecting a corporate fast food chain to be unique is dumb. And you're exaggerating since the actual layout compared to even my local McD's is noticeably different.

The rats here are really pog
Hello from twitter redditors

>>22958692
Ywnbaw faggot and if you are trying to be, this rings true for all males. Don’t be unattractive and you will be 99% less creepy than all other dudes regardless of how you act.

>>22955750
Lmao you type like a downie, not my fault you've never talked to a woman, sad af

>>22974834
>99%
relax creep

>>22974514
"family members"

I cannot act like a Chad and I'm pretty aware that I'm naive idiot (despite having a generally cynical outlook at life), so I feel I will get into trouble if I don't have ideal conditions to find a girl.
Once, long ago, I was trying the relationship thing with a girl who approached me, but it ended in about a month for some dumb reasons, If to believe an other girl I knew, "ex-gf" tried to spread a rumor I was abusive despite the worst thing I did was saying a dumb joke(not even a sexual one, mind that).
So yeah, maybe unconsciously I'm afraid of women which makes my actions near them even more awkward.

>>22954643
In 99% of issues I agree but if >>22952988 isreal then I would not be surprised because it's crazy how many girls have been molested by family members

I’m the family member and it’s not going to stop until I’m dead. I aggressively went after her trying to sniff her panties, I’ve been stealing her laundry our whole life but she’s been teasing me buying more and more expensive pairs lately and I finally broke, after she finally left the house for the first time in a month to get some weed I raided her room, sniffed every pair I could find and when she got home she wasn’t even all the way in the house before my nose was saying kronii chica to her crotch. She tried to shake me off, dad started hitting me but I was beyond pain at that point. The only thing that stopped me was the collective effort of 3 officers and their tasers. I borrowed this phone from my cellmate, I let him draw her face on my back and play with my ass like they were titties. The longer I’m behind these bars the larger my lust grows and soon they won’t be able to hold me back, I will sniff her into graduation and then into hiding, I am the storm that is approaching

>>22975978
Based

>>22975978
Did you see her belly button?

>>22976025
fuckin kek

>>22958692
Just imagine if women would be the ones who had to do all the approaching without having to rely on their looks. It would look more comical than the most insecure incel trying to hit up a woman

>>22974178
Good post, thanks.

>>22974369
Biofemale moment.

I'm not sure if this is a Kronie stunt to pump her numbers up because now I'm tempted to watch her just to see if her door gets kicked in one day and she gets molested on stream.

>>22974178
You:
>types all that bullshit
How it actually works:
https://youtu.be/N7FVmeJXwCY?t=56

>>22975978
>I borrowed this phone from my cellmate, I let him draw her face on my back and play with my ass like they were titties.
I got a stiffy.

>>22974178
Thanks for vomiting a whole spiel about how you shouldn't make women feel heckin' uncomfortable after being rejected when anon clearly asked how to not appear intimidating to women in the first place.

>>22959902
I get exactly what you're talking about, and I even can emphasize with certain points such as feeling awkward and uncomfortable, but you know what? I think it exposes your rotten character that in spite of you being aware that such attempts, though awkward, are utterly sincere and you simply demonize the poor guy who doesn't know better. It's never just about rejecting him and moving on with your life, no it's about making a "point". Don't make me sad, don't make me angry, don't make me feel weird etc. just be as socially conforming as you possibly can. You make me sick.

Kronii?

>>22965383
That's not the guy she's talking about. He's making a joke by posting a random McDonald's photo and acting like he's that guy. She mentioned that the guy didn't know her in a reply to someone.

>>22978092
*empathize

>>22977556
>>22976161
Yeah, women have no idea about how these things work because they have never needed to take the initiative. The only thing that works is dogged persistence.

>>22969987
You're a niggerfied American so you wouldn't understand.

>>22958692
>I'm literally a fucking woman
You sure are :^)

>>22978092
I get what you mean and I understand that what I said was strongly typed, but I think we're at a misunderstanding. There is a line that can be crossed when it comes to personal boundaries, and if someone continuously disrespects those boundaries after you've drawn a line, then it's rude and potentially yeah, definitely creepy if you don't leave a person alone. It's fine to talk to people. There's a huge difference between someone being normal, someone being awkward, and someone being creepy. What I was talking about was the more about the extreme end that's creepy and demanding of attention from someone, not just an awkward guy.
What you're saying isn't specifically warranting 'creepy'. An awkward guy can just be an awkward guy. It doesn't mean they're creepy if it's simply being awkward and not everyone is going to think someone awkward is automatically a creep. There's a difference.
If you are awkward and realize some of your actions may be creepy, but you're not a creep, you simply need to reevaluate how you see yourself and how you treat others and understand that you have probably made people uncomfortable. It doesn't mean you're a rapist. It doesn't mean those people thought you were a rapist.
Someone can be sincere and make others uncomfortable around them, and if they don't care about that in the end or don't learn from it, then they're going to continue doing that. As I said, people don't want to admit when their actions are creepy or weird.
Saying someone is acting creepy isn't calling them a criminal. I've had plenty of awkward encounters with people without thinking the worst of them and appreciating the encounter, and without thinking they're creepy. People can form opinions on others, and they're allowed to form strong ones if you accidentally make that impression on them, even if that does not resonate truly with you personally. We need to accept that and move on and grow.

I don't know about the Kiara roommate situation because I wasn't there. But if she really did tell him to choose a different table multiple times before he decided to sit close by her, then she's allowed to be uncomfortable. If he was creepy about it, she has the right to call him a creep. If he was just extremely awkward, then that's something else. She's gone through enough experiences to be extremely on guard about this kind of stuff. On the other hand, there's no way for people to really defend and know if he had good intentions, since they weren't there either. In the end, if someone doesn't want to be talked to, and you respect that basic boundary, they will probably like you more.

>>22977812
get reading comprehension. anon is probably fine but there's no sure-fire way to not be intimidating towards every different person in existence, so you can attempt to curb that by becoming someone easier to talk to if you must, and just becoming more socially adept.

>>22970524
Basically this. I know some of the least attractive looking people, but they keep themselves reasonably clean looking and just talks to strangers with some self awareness and rarely if ever gets told they're being creepy.

Why is 90% of this thread about Kiara's roommate's tweet and not about Kronii?

>>22981190
Ugly people shouldn't be allowed in public, in my opinion.

>>22969880
Mana? Mana Renewal? Did she say capitalism must be destroyed?

KILL YOURSELF AMETARD

Doesn’t she have enough money to just leave?

>>22979626
Come on, you know the difference between "awkward" and "creep" is entrirely personal, yet you're trying to create a set-in stone set of rules that apply to ALL women for the explicit purpose of acting like you're helping guys while selfishly trying to erect a wall between yourself and the magical men you want to approach you. Of course, you have a right to do that. But the issue is that you pretend that these rules are there to help men, rather than to protect yourself from the horrors of an awkward (ugly) but sincere man approaching you.

You bring up Kiara to try and shame that Anon by comparing him to an actual maladjusted stalker when it has nothing to do with your post! Seriously, have some concern for your fellow human beings.

>>22979626
You deserve to be raped, go cry to your boyfriend about that.

>At Mcdonalds
>You Spot your Oshi
>She notices you and makes a disgusted face
>What do you do?

I hope some of the 31 IPs here have reported that faggot on birdapp for harrassment?

>>22987988
you don't even know if it's real it's probably just some retarded egg trolling

Kronii my beloved, I will save you.

>>22952746
yeah her roommate also says the same thing. poor of her i know these kind of experience when i was a kid. I'm glad they are not like that anymore and become a better person overall. maybe something happen in their life and make them change. i hope kronii will get the same thing

>>22953217
it's member stream, and it's supposed to be stay in member stream. yet this OP fcker spill it out and build up another unnecessary discussion.

>>22953416
link it pussy, proff or you're schizo

>schizo rrat thread turns into guys rping as women talking about approaching women
You are retarded, women don't like being approached unless you have money or are attractive, get a life.

>>22987894
Keep eating
I came for McNuggies

>>22956556
wtf are you talking about you schizo

>>22987894
follow her and kidnap her. and obviously rape her. and then make her streaming with my voice in it. will be the biggest yabe ever happen. while i impregnate her into oblivion

>>22958019
who is it then, dm me

>>22969126
dudes rock

>>22989025
Wow, a lot of people want to know who Kronii is huh... that's pretty weird.

>>22989258
more like lazy dramanigger mfs. . if they try hard enough they can access these kind of information. but no, they need to be spoon-feed like a monkey

>>22958616
>Women don't mind being approached by strangers if they're good-looking.
We are not on the early 2000 anymore anon.
Now thanks to #metoo and other feminazi bs even chad-tier looking dudes will be tagged as low life rapists if they fuck up their approach to any woman.
>But...muh Tinder social experiments...
You realize Tinder is also a catfish paradise, right?
Unfortunaly, a lot of Holos are from this new era where feminazi bs runs through their mind and they may even get dicked by a chad...after they threatened the other 3 only chad-tier looking guys, who put interest on them, of framing them as rapists.

>>22952746
daddy issues stream with kiara when?

>>22989545
Kiara is post daddy issues.

>>22989258
>>22989258
even if I did know who she is, so? I'm not gonna fly my ass out to wherever bumfuck nowhere that she lives bc I'm in third world country. chill bruh.

>>22989332
you fucking gatkeeping kroniggers. gatekeeping who she is bc you literally searched cp and stumbled across her whoreass info. you schizos think you're so special to be "spoon feeding" kys

>>22974194 b-bajs? amongE

>>22981356
Anyone who was there to prove what Kronii said if it's true isn't going to do it because it's a members stream and the topic. All that's left is for the weird LARPers to post about the roommate tweet since dramaniggers aren't going to be spoonfed anything about Kronii.

>>22958692
Cutting off your dick doesn't make you a woman.

>>22990400
lol wow you're really mad like a 12yo who doesn't understand his dick

>>22972952
I mean she is very ignorant and puts herself in these situations, yes having that fear dialed up to 11 at all times is mental illness but not actually using that fear to make more responsible decisions is downright retarded. She has no male figure in her life and nobody is there to help her if something bad does happen so she at bare minimum isn't restricting her life due to fears even if she has them. At the same time though, she needlessly opens herself up to stalkers, harassment or other people taking advantage of her in ways that are completely unnecessary. Just take something as simple as her getting those shady guys to come into her home for hours and do some stuff for her that her friends would have been willing to do for free. She had a whole anxiety-filled experience of trying to keep them from taking total advantage of her in her own home and half-succeeded but the entire thing was literally for nothing. It isolated her more than an experience of trustful bonding with people in her life and it cost way too much money. There was no "pro" and several cons but she clearly did it out of some "I'm an independent woman" shtick. Or going out on her balcony and getting harassed by all the drunks around her and feeling sad but taking some pride in enduring it, like who the fuck does that? That's mental illness. I've had plenty of terrible interactions with the worst neighbors but I don't intentionally subject myself to it and I see the cheapness of my rent as a fair trade-off for the low quality of my neighbors but she has enough money to consider the alternative.

Fuck you and your walls of text, all of you, I ain't reading this shit, you all are mentally ill faggots, get a life and stop acting like a fucking TMZ

>>22952746
>daddy issues
GOD IMAGINE THE SEX

This board isn't your fucking diary, why are women so fucking self centered holy shit