/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22906671
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>22906671
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken Human fall flat
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Kanata return stream

> PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
2x: Okayu
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko, Kanata

>>22906356
idk, but
>>22899480
>>22899532
>>22899596

>>22906723
Fake and gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1GWnuOaZjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1GWnuOaZjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1GWnuOaZjA

Huh, this is the first time I see this pairing ...

>>22906723
>Not a single gold for nijisanji this month
HOLOBROS HOW ARE WE FEELING?

>>22906857
Pretty sure I've seen them on stream together before...maybe it was a group collab

>>22906857
no, they play monhun together before

Someone..please...help him
This is even lower than a typical zoom call

>>22907030
Literally watched by his friend and family

>>22907030
Isn't this a little low even for him?

>>22906833
Nijiseethe

>>22907030
There are other people more deserving. Let him die

>>22907030
>>22907089
>>22907166

He play this shit at least 3 hours every fucking day and got like 40-50 peak after 1~2 hours in

>>22907030
It's Nijisanji. Better to leave them dead than to prolong their sufferings.

Illegal Marine Gura daughter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IRJzqMWNS8

>>22907434
more? nacho been busy

>>22907434
wew
did nacho design her or is it a copycat

>>22907510
Yeah it's nacho and her usual rigger

>>22907434
Cute.

>>22906188
Assuming that's true, I fail to see why cached results ends up showing as spikes. If the chart shows a stairs pattern with no changes of query result between some measure of interval then I agree the culprit is due to cached results, but what we have here are spikes that alternate between high and lows of about a semi-consistent amount of ccv as amplitude.
Despite that, I don't completely deny sawtooth as a result of some kind of a bug considering what happened with the barcoding a few months ago. I just feel that there are other, more probable causes that can explain such phenomenon

>>22907495
>>22907510
It's not a Vtuber, just a new PV of the light novel nacho illustrates for.

http://outbreaknewstoday.com/china-reports-human-h5n6-avian-influenza-case-in-sichuan-province-58218/
COVID 22 HERE WE GO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDfd2ICWezg

>>22908005
Finally. 2020 II let's fucking go

>>22908005
Aren't they still suffering from Covid and lockdowns? now they get a new one? chinks can't catch a break.

JWU, how's yesterday results? Did Kanata collect her gold on her return?

>>22907030
>He wants another $11

>>22908375
>49,470: Kanata (Hololive)
>40,135: Watame (Hololive)
>37,528: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,153: VSPO (VSPO)
>23,843: Okayu (Hololive)
>21,172: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>20,889: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>16,008: Miko (Hololive)
>14,962: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>14,455: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,295: Gura (Hololive)
>13,012: Millie (Nijisanji)
>10,679: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>10,051: Toko (Nijisanji)

Almost 50k is not bad for a zatsudan return stream.

>>22908375
Yes. You missed a ton of Leech Tenshi Hornypost

>>22908375
Yes, and she'll likely collect today as well, since there doesn't appear to be anything that can beat this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pC9JaHyyjQ

>>22908005
>h5n6
Anon, that's nothing new
it's been here since 2013

>>22908507
Sry somehow forgot to attach pic

In some random news:
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2022/04/virtual-ai-star-yua-makes-lackluster.html?m=1
>In japan: Vocaloid songs trend on the internet like if they were sung by a real singer
>In South Korea: *Cricket sounds
Well, this explains why NijiKR were a failure and why most KR vtubers are on Twitch and not on Afreeca or Youtube over there.
There goes HoloKR...

>>22908524
Based tenshi double dipping on SC and daily gold

>>22908375
>49.428 - Kanata return stream (Hololive)
>40,214 - Watame 3d Janken totsu (Hololive)
>37.516 - Pekora Granblue Fantasy (Hololive)
>24.260 - Vspo collab (VSPO)
>23,813 - Okayu Subaru Mario collab (Hololive)
>21,120 - Kuzuha Free talk (Nijisanji)
>20,847 - Lauren Apex (Nijisanji)
>16,046 - Miko Tokyo Ghostwire (Hololive)
>14,990 - Ibrahim Minecraft (Nijisanji)
>14,509 - Hal Apex legends (Neo-Porte)
>14,297 - Gura Devour collab (Hololive)
>10,665 - Maimoto eBaseball (Nijisanji)

>>22908507
I think she would've gotten more tourists if it weren't for Pekora's GBF's untimely event

Mumei just cracked a bunch of numberfag jokes while watching music videos on her members stream.

>>22908659
Unless they can find a trusted kr music producer, it'd be hard to penetrate

Also, why the fuck does Anya sound like a middle school girl in the collab?

Jesus there used to be like 2-3 threads to catch up on during normal nights.
I guess it'll be a while before the regulars return.

>>22908659
do Koreans not understand irony?

>>22908507
>including botted streams
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>>22908809
Timestamp ? I can't watch that moom stream atm.

>>22908897
What makes you think it wasn't the tourists that left?

>>22908897
No, fuck that. This is 100x better, like how it used to be. Just one or two schizos, a timeloop or two, and 2-3 threads a day. Tally anon and chartanon are still good too, so nothing of value was lost.

>>22906671
Should've made this the op

>>22908809
I can't believe she called gura the reclining shark and told her chat to stop ratio cope when they brought up her vod views.

EN3 COME HOMEEEEEE

>>22908874
ToT

>>22908947
There wouldn't be a chart left if you removed the botted streams anon.

>>22908897
We don't need 2-3 threads during dead hours

I still can't believe 11$ was all it took to mindbreak so many people.

>>22908026
HACHI!
I thought Sora and Mito was participating too. Why arent they there?

>>22908507
>Millie
Kek.

>>22907881
it's hard to explain over text and i'm too lazy to draw this. but i have seen similar convergence problem before hence my initial guess at the problem.

>>22909273
Day 1.
https://youtu.be/UAMhYU9SHzo

>>22908914
>There's nothing natural about it because they're designed to be perfect
>koreans
Oh, the irony.

>>22908507
Wow look at that Millie incline!

>>22908659
Well kpop girlgroup is thriving currently and their album sales is booming. Heck the new girlgroup of bighit(bts company) already surpassed 270k album pre order.

>>22909340
That's fine, convergence issues can be considered as a bug in a sense (if accuracy was critical, which unfortunately YT doesn't seem to feel that way). And I've accepted that its one possible cause to the issue we are seeing. Thanks for the input, anon.

>>22909520
they don't care enough for the live ccv. it does get resolved in the back end for the people who pay (advertisers) for youtube

>>22909421
Now that I think about it, that one time a 2view indie got like 12k peak out of nowhere was probably also some guy/group experimenting with view bots as well.

>>22908507
>Millie's bot experiment stream
kek.

>>22909222
The EN race is already pathetic before and now it's officially dead.

>>22908976
Stream is still going, but she started at 9:35 EST, so you can get an estimate based on that and the time of my post. It’s when she’s going over to Hips Don’t Lie by Shakira. Specifically mentioned views-to-likes ratio and subscriber count.

>>22909609
ludwig didn't quite explain the issue well enough to susan on that interview so i don't think we'll ever see this fixed
what i'd like to get is the same data that they show to creators at least

>>22909609
Susan doing half assed shit, what else is new. Twitch is ridiculously lucky that their only viable competition is fucking pants on head retarded

i got ban for saying $11sanji with n word attach to it, what the fuck

>>22909810
Are you posting them on splits? Those actually have mods babysitting them.

>>22909750
Thanks anon. I'll catch up with it later.

>>22906723
>>22906897
well your agenda is probably funny to you, but 36512 > 36464 so kys

also Tallyanon, if you're here, let this be a lesson that "fairness" doesn't mean you should break your own established rules, you should've put the highest Kuzuha peak (Vrabi) on the tally

>>22906223
> "Sawtooth = Bots okay?"
> doesn't post proof
> gets called a retard
> seethes about it

>>22909810
proofs?

>>22910047
That one is a Vox's fujoshi on Leddit. Just ignore her

>>22909657
was she registered on any of the usual graph tracking sites?

>>22908659
isedol is popular on youtube

>>22910047
Link me a scheduled stream you want to have a sawtooth pattern, preferably one that is tracked on vrabi, or vstats

>>22908985
...this is a compelling point, the thread is far more comfy now.

>>22908272
CCP are a bunch of idiots they keep forcing quarantine causing collapse of health services and lack of food supply because all markets are closed and there're not enough people delivered it and worse part is they keep doing it just cuz they don't want to admint they aren't wrong they don't want to admint their failure

>>22910256
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCkieJGn3pgJikVW8gmMXE2w

Every single one of her graphs has a sawtooth pattern retard, and she bounces between 1k and 2k.

>>22909035
We gonna have HomoEN first

>>22910047
What an incel

>>22909741
We did it leddit

>>22910385
Her streams does have jaggedness though it doesn't have fixed interval nor a semblance of consistent amplitude. Not saying it's botted or otherwise, but a sawtooth pattern with fixed interval and semi-consistent amplitude like pic related is more likely to be botted than hers.
I believe your doubts would be settled if you the pattern in pic related can be recreated on a scheduled stream of your choice, or would that not be enough to convince you?

AAAAA I WANT HOLOLIVE KOREA

>>22910871
Any reason why you started this whole sawtooth pattern = botting argument only after the thread started talking about nijien botting? It feels very... petty. Like a teary eyed kid trying to get payback on someone for calling out his cheating.

>>22910310
Try saying that again but in English, please.

Council is getting interviews in Crunchyroll. We can use it to see how popular each member.

>>22908985
Is Rannianon supposed to be a tourist, then?

>>22911077
no we can't

>>22910989
I started making the connection when I saw the how the Millie bot works (instant spike, and tapers off within the minute) and how some services posted in the thread then advertised 'organic' bot by deploying them over time in small amounts

>>22911077
And how are you supposed to use it to measure fame?

>>22911171
Again, an experiment with a total sample of one isn't enough for anything. If you really wanna make this argument, then spend money and enlarge the sample size, otherwise fuck off.

>>22911134
To that crowd , yeah. The Kronii interview went up today and it already has the same number of like as the first one, Fauna.

>>22911134
Like and retweets.

>>22909966
Nijiniggers and their fudging of numbers

>>22911272
>expecting the average 4channer to be anything more than a broke ass morherfucker
NGMI.

Mumei might do a Minecraft stream tomorrow. The arc is starting.

wanna see sawtooth?

>>22908659
KR is a dead market for anything but their boys and girls bands

>>22911422
They need an event to look forward to and work towards. A party, a holiday, a war/battle, a contest, some sort of goal

>>22911171
>and how some services posted in the thread then advertised 'organic' bot by deploying them over time in small amounts
So you're making assumptions based on the advertisement of a bot service? Not exactly the most reliable source i'd say, not to mention you, nor anyone here I assume, knows how those bots work and how a graph that used these supposed "organic" bots looks like. In other words, it's all in your head.

>>22908897
Botting killed the horse race

>>22911272
tbf, the Ike spike behaves the same way. sample size of 2 I agree is not much but I see no harm making the argument, maybe some posters who knows better can convince me that such case is not possible and saves me multiple $11 for the trouble.

>>22911469
You need a foundation for an arc. People going back to the and interacting could cause an event to happen.

>>22911388

>>22911459
this is what happens when one of the tally service died or stalled by the verification process and returning 0 or some random fixed number

>>22911534
No one has to do anything to convince you, fucker. Who the fuck you think are? You think just because you suspect something then it falls on everyone else to prove you wrong? That's not how this works, it falls ON YOU to prove your suspicion right.

>>22911505
Would help to test said 'organic bots' and see what they look like before making any other arguments.

>>22911619
Thanks for agreeing with me

>>22911620
They need to take more cues from wrestling. Plan some sort of rivalry or something, just the basic outline, and then let improv take it from there

>>22911658
Kek it's almost like Twittard logic. "If no one proves me wrong, then I'm right!" Except they're operating from flawed base to begin with.

>>22911662
>>22911658
>>22911505
Which I offered here >>22910256
No use if the experiment ended up with claims of cherry picking or similar

>>22911619
Why did you give the faggot a (You). Just ignore the Boxfag trying to gaslight the thread into erasing KING's gold.

>>22911827
Yea and someone gave you what you asked for. But of course, you dismissed that because it doesn't fit your argument.

>>22911857
I just like posting that image anon

KR scene growth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXdTbDRFFRQ

I don't know if the guy saying that sawtooth=botting is falseflagging or just someone that can't read a graph but it is just a stupid take.
Nobody has said or thought that it was until people suspected that Luxiem's fujos were botting big events and why would lately be so low her CCV compared to the CCV she had before getting sawtooth (I know she is culled af but let's stick to the data we have) when she is arguably the Vtuber with the biggest engagement and numbers in literally every single media site, graph or whatever you want to compare if she is getting botted?

>>22911750
In en, only Fauna and Mumei would be willing to do something like that.

>>22911813
Yeah, I'm just gonna ignore the fucker from now on, or any other retard trying to claim anything similar.

>>22911422
Finally, consistent 10k

>>22911662
How would you even run a test? If you bot any stream you will get banned for raiding, and vrabi is the only good tracking site with graphs.

>>22911857
It's kinda funny seeing the nijiniggers trot out an endless series of scapegoats to blame instrad of accepting the simple truth that people in the numbers thread hate it when numbers are fudged

>>22911893
at least use the superior version

>>22911935
>Nobody has said or thought that it was until people suspected that Luxiem's fujos were botting big events
I mean yea, it's clearly a retard trying to gaslight and deflect.

>>22906723
*yesterday's final tally*

>49.428 - Kanata return stream (Hololive)
>40,214 - Watame 3d Janken totsu (Hololive)
>37.516 - Pekora Granblue Fantasy (Hololive)
>24.260 - Vspo collab (VSPO)
>23,813 - Okayu Subaru Mario collab (Hololive)
>21,120 - Kuzuha Free talk (Nijisanji)
>20,847 - Lauren Apex (Nijisanji)
>16,046 - Miko Tokyo Ghostwire (Hololive)
>14,990 - Ibrahim Minecraft (Nijisanji)
>14,509 - Hal Apex legends (Neo-Porte)
>14,297 - Gura Devour collab (Hololive)
>10,665 - Maimoto eBaseball (Nijisanji)

>>22912028
The charting of sites like vrabi and whatnot are done from just pulling from the youtube API. If you were insistent enough on testing this you could pull that data and chart it via excel or any other program.
Then you test the bots on an EMPTY STREAM where no-one is going to get fucked over if the account gets flagged/banned by youtube.
>>22911891
You misunderstand. They want you to give them a victim to bot

>>22909852
no it was here during millie b*tting fiasco kek

>>22910871
to begin with, the argument that a sawtooth line on the graph, regardless of the line being in a general state or inclining or reclining is a sign of "smart" botting is completely retarded. you are basically saying that whatever they are using to bot is capable of adjusting to both how many bots are culled every interval and how many bots will not be immediately parsed as viewers, then adding the same amount and more for a general incline, while also keeping the same rules for general reclines thrown into the middle of the stream to seem believable.

>Ollie's malding
>Anya, get into the car
Fucking Evangelion moment

>>22911632
>Whale teeth graphics
SUSAN

>>22912130
It's sus, but I'll be honest, I think it's just Youtube's stupid verification combined with high VPN usage resulting in fuckiness.
We know the chink fujos use VPNs, they have to otherwise they can't watch shit on YT. Combine that with oddness about Youtube's CCV (we know it's a clusterfuck of a bunch of things) and you very well could end up with artifacts like that.
Unfortunately, unless you can bring up evidence that someone said they're viewfarming or something, all you can say is "That looks sus" and have to leave it at that, as much as it grates my own nerves.

I was watching Kaela's WR vod and suddenly reminded of one of Luxiem ranted about how miserable LoL players are. Who was it again? Mysta?

>>22912213
Yea, it was pretty terrible, everyone was getting screwed by it.

>>22905349
Lmao all those comments going "NijiID where?" but none of them even bother turning up for streams.

I bet they're also the loud minority begging for homo collabs.

>>22912188
i'm practically convinced that the sawtooth line is entirely caused by youtube's user verification affecting all viewers, bots or real

>>22912130
Nah... That's pretty normal for botjisanji karaoke
The ones are really sus are the last vox karaoke and the Valorant Collab

>>22911658
>You think just because you suspect something then it falls on everyone else to prove you wrong?
I also made no such claims, the Ike and Millie bot was enough as evidence to convince me. Though I'm willing to do experiments of my own if friends in the number threads wants in order to convince them.

>>22911891
I asked for a scheduled stream, not an archived one. One where they'd be convinced if the sawtooth pattern can be recreated there.

>>22911935
I don't deny the clue, my earlier posts regarding this noted that her vod views was significantly high even after discounting what I assumed. I suspect the cull does exist and has been affecting her hardest. That doesn't mean both cannot happen at the same time.

>>22912158
I really don't want to fuck anyone's metrics, but I think this can only be proven with streams that are going to be tracked by vrabi or similar otherwise there would be claims of falsifying data.

>>22912158
Testing it on an empty account is going to get that account banned by YouTube and probably any other google accounts accessed by the same ip. It is way more risky than testing it on the nambia streams or something.

You don't even need graphs to prove botsanji is real.

>>22912188
>smart botting
I don't make such claims, what the bot have to do is just send x amount of bots/views (in the vicinity of 200-300 in that stream case) every few second/minute and it would make that pattern on an otherwise normal smooth chart.

>>22912528
Why not use a news live stream or one of those 24 hour streams like the traffic cameras?

>>22912578
Why does it not keep rising till the end of the stream if it keeps adding 200-300 new views everytime?

>>22912581
Sure, If there's one that is publicly tracked with decent resolution by any 3rd party service

>>22912334
Stop defending your black company nijinigger

>>22912632
Because just like the Ike and Millie chart, the view that the service send doesn't stay for long. Both cases tapers out within the minute, and it make sense because those service would rather use their bots to fulfill other orders rather than staying in a live stream indefinitely

>everyone start fighting about Luxiem being botting
Ah shit, here go again
Guy do you believe Jannie gonna go nuclear and ban us all again?

>>22912536
this one is far easier to compare

>>22912729
>the view that the service send doesn't stay for long
And why would it do that? Why not just stay there?

>>22912740
They want /#/ to be deleted forever

>>22912740
I'm seeing a bunch of idiots and schizos here, and not a whole lot of useful number talk. Everyone here could use a good forced break.

>>22912729
Anon, try rereading what you wrote and tell me you find nothing wrong. You're literally saying the bots don't stay for long because they have to fulfill other orders but then they come back after some time, causing the sawtooth pattern? Do you even understand how retarded you sound?

>>22912729
Those spikes aren't even the fucking same as the other fuckery we've seen in the other graphs. You're making a leap of logic that spikes of one type = botting = all spikes are bots. Which is stupid.

>>22912729
that would be retarded if the bots at some point would not be all concurrently on the stream
>i'll just send 10k bots as viewers 1 at a time, but turn the previous one off when the next one joins
>enjoy your boosted views
yeah ok

>>22912768
>>22912536
Are you two newfags, schizos, or do you actually think those two pool comparison SS proved anything other than HoloEN is massively culled?

the answer is tourist
the regular retards are still banned. the jst schizos avoided the ban because they went to bed before the shitshow so they'll be back in a couple of hours

>>22913073
NijiJP polls aren't that bad.

>>22912996 (me)
viewers not views, point still stands

I would like to point out that it's Friday afternoon in SEA rn

>>22912782
There are probably services that behaves that way, but revisiting the stream also increases the vod views (which is the more marketable metric to the regular youtubers) even more so if they are visited by a different device everytime.

>>22912957
See above, most of these bots are used for vod views since few does Livestream on YT and even fewer cares about live ccv. The services that does this slightly expands their market to those few people while maintaining the same tools and infrastructure

>>22912966
I agree, not saying all spikes are bots. Just the one with fixed interval and semi consistent amplitudes

>>22912996
The idea is to increase your perceived audience 'organicly', by that it meant not a one off 10k view spike that can be easily detected by both your audience or YT as spam. If you need more ccv then you'd have to get a larger order.

It just Luxiem fujos on Reddit trying to gaslight and shitting up the thread.

>>22913394
>but revisiting the stream also increases the vod views
Source?

>>22913442
https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/how-does-youtube-count-views
Also demonstrated on long hour streams and its correlation with higher vod views.

>>22913073
why not both?

>>22913434
Perpetual meltdown over what exactly? Luxiem? The thread is still a horse race/shitposting fest. No one really cares that much about them and are still talking about various topics, but when there's something suspicious about their numbers, they're really trying to make us seem like the bad guys. What the fuck.

>>22913507
>So, wait. If there’s no secret formula to what counts as a view, can’t anyone refresh their video to gain views? Not anymore.
Well, thanks for confirming it doesn't work that way.

>>22913434
I mean it's not entirely wrong, nijiEN is ruining numberfagging with their blatant botting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIKCDMiBPmA

Ahhh, so this is why she reached out to Iroha...
Damn, 9 months huh...

>>22913561
>Do replays count as views on YouTube?
>Yes, but only if the replays seem natural. If you replay a video once, it will count as a view. However, if you constantly refresh the page to artificially up the view count, YouTube will pinpoint this as a spamming practice (see the Views, reloaded definition above).

>Are YouTube views unique?
>No. YouTube’s views aren’t unique; replays and re-visits are counted in the view count. You can see your number of unique viewers in your YouTube analytics dashboard.

Either way, I did mention revisiting may be done with different devices so it would count as a unique view

>>22913554
They're the types that believe we're posting "OH NO NO NO HOLOBROS" unironically.
Actual brainlets.

>>22913507
kpop schizos realized youtube only counts 5 views per user per video a day, and watch sessions are a thing. If you watch part of a video, then come back to watch the rest, youtube detects it as a single session and only counts one view, while adding the watchtime together.

>>22913716
True

>>22913702
Your own source says it doesn't count, try reading your own sources next time before making such claims.

https://youtu.be/_pC9JaHyyjQ
Predictions? 70k? Or maybe Aqua can push it higher?

>>22913777
I make no claims that refreshes does that. Revisiting on the other hand does not appear anywhere in your image, it does however if you scroll down a bit where it says that it does counted in the view count, pic related.

>>22913928
80~85k, maybe even higher. There's no overlap right ?

>>22912458
I'll kindly assume newfag, and not falseflag. Plus, I'm really bored tonight, so here goes.

The main reason people discredit fixed interval sawtoothing as as a sign of botting is because it's also represented in a Dec 2020 YouTube change that cratered CCV across the board on the platform, but also seemed to affect HoloEN users more heavily than HoloJP (users, not streamers - this also tracks with CCVID testing appearing to be user-based flagging). I'll just track it with 4 of Ina's drawstreams (to roughly compare similar audiences), but it's present in damn near everything in HoloEN during the interval of late Dec 2020 to mid Aug 2021. What's really interesting is that you can actually see the same "natural" CCV curve in the sawtoothed graphs, just with random teeth sticking out of it. It's also worth noting that the Jul 2021 and Aug 2021 basically have the same CCV, only one has teeth and the other doesn't - which shows that fixed interval sawtoothing is something that likely occurs on YouTube's side.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/g96MFx8X800 (Dec 13, 2020)
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/uTR35XKAKIU (Dec 20, 2020)
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JpjETRZnGd8 (Jul 18, 2021)
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/nqa9EqZR3XY (Aug 14, 2021)

Another example of the userbase getting flagged is to dig through Coco's archive and realize that most of her content (ends before Aug 2021) has curves as smooth as a baby's ass, but content with near-zero appeal to the Japanese audience gives you this: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/NCq9K4ql47Y

You can also see traces of fixed interval sawtoothing in Shitpost Reviews in 2021 (mixed EOP audience):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Fyd6quCBX34 (pretty clear after ~15 minutes)
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/OWvEG82V7UM (noticeable after ~35 minutes)
But funnily enough some of her best-performing Shitpost Reviews in 2021 don't have noticeable teeth, when they would theoretically be the botted examples:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/1Mm2VgxI-nA
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/YTTnA4MQkg0

It's also worth considering that your argument is backwards - why would bots and viewfarms be reflected in fixed interval spikes? The braindead way to deploy bots is to turn them all on and leave them there (ie: hard spikes with smooth aftermath, as demonstrated by known botting from /here/). A more sophisticated bot farm might instead deploy individual bots one after the other at short fixed intervals to have them replaced at a faster rate than they get culled - which if done correctly should theoretically give a smooth graph (ie: constant repeated short spikes). Given those assumptions, fixed interval sawtoothing would mean someone's spiking bot purchases in fixed, suspiciously well-spaced intervals that are minutes apart (not seconds), in batches of a few hundred each time, to not actually drive up the CCV at all but instead just troll /#/ into writing blogposts about sawteeth on CCV graphs.

>>22913928
80k peak is my prediction.

is Elden Ring a buff for ID & debuff for EN?

If youtube takes in mind our watch session of the stream doesnt that mean that tournamnet or collabs with multiple povs dont really increas the vods because of people jumping in and out?

>>22914151
Depends on the overlap and what they are facing. Right now ame is on a guerrilla midnight er stream with other3 streams. I think bae ended. And one is a collab. She is dumb

>>22907434
The voice is damn good on this kusogaki

>>22906671
Is she a Pomu version 2.0, a what now?

>>22914171
I assume yes. Tabbing in/out can only effect verification rate on ccv.

>>22914010
This man knows his shit !!!

processing takes 12hrs-24hrs

>>22914010
Certificated numberfag anon.

>>22914288
No offense but i hope your mom dies in her sleep tonight

>>22914010
Anon, I... I kneel.

>OKFAIR collab ended
>Ame gained around 1.5k CCV
>Baelz's MC stream ended
>No significant change in term of viewership in other Holos' streams. Neither Ame, Kronii, nor IRyS gained anything
What's wrong with brrats?

>>22914869
Bae was alredy at sc reading. And had the bratz since 3 hours ago. Is also to late so must funnels wont be as effective

>>22914223
What do you expect from Inori Minase...

>>22914010
Now watch as that anon “asking questions” ignores this next thread and go back to his initial point as if this was never posted

PSSSSTT
>HEY ANONS
Are we the bad guys?

>APOLOGIZE!

>>22914010
Appreciate the detailed response and sources anon.

In regards to bot and ccv performance, despite the botting implication I also don't think the ones which behavior I've been referring to does much to a stream's peak ccv, probably about 200-300 more peaks in the cases I've talked about. I'm sure that begs the question of why do it in the first place if it doesn't matter much, and to that I've alluded to that these actions doesn't have to be done by someone who wants to see her perform well. It may just some random person trying out some bots services, might be a fan that doesn't have much disposable fund and just spend as he/she is capable to, or maybe an anti that knows doing this will fuck her metrics, maybe flagged her channel so that YT will spend more time validating her viewers compared to other streamers.
In any case, I find the sawtooth behavior to be reproducible and explained by a particular bot behavior.

>why would bots and viewfarms be reflected in fixed interval spikes
There's probably one that does what you've described (staying, smaller intervals), though it would be pretty hard to observe from the data we have and I agree I would these sort of services of I were to bot my oshi in hopes she gets better viewership with little to no consequences.
Anyway, their existence or not doesn't disprove that the crude minute interval batches I've been referring to exist or being used on some streams.
There are also reasons why these sort of bot behavior does exist, since these may be traditionally used for pumping up vod views 'organicly' in a crude way.

>>22914010

https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1517399001062326272

Mori and Suisei interview

>>22915642
>We
One deranged faggot who spikes poor Millie is not the entirety of /#/. Also this is 4chan, to be reminded that yes, unsavory types do walk among us once in a while is a good wake up call to take care in your shitposting, for you never know who might take you up on it.

Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Nijisanji has yet to win a single gold this month

>>22915642
Fuck off, Reimu.

>>22915668
You lied to me anon. This ain't no interview.

>>22915642
Just graduate already ffs

>>22915707
Yup. While Millie getting experimented on is not a good thing I think it opened the eyes of some shitposters that trying to fuck with others might end up biting their own oshi in the ass. Especially if they're Nijis since /#/ is still a holo thread after all.

Ah yes, the famous Reddit Taichi:
>I guess you're right, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong, because based on my assumption something something

>22915661
Damn, took you 45 minutes to write so many words without actually saying anything, impressive.

>>22915852
Sorry, my ESL brain forgot the difference between interview and article.

>>22914010
holy shit

https://youtu.be/Ztswc9q4QJA
Mio gold tomorrow if nothing big is going on

>>22916391
Well timed return

>>22916391
She only been gone for 10 days so dont expect much.

>>22916424
Please Mio gold. Her fucking lewds are amazing.

>22915661
Using
>I think
>I'm sure
>maybe
>probably
>If that was me I would do it
>Your evidences mean nothing because I think I'm right
to counter argument.
This is why you guys should top arguing with fujos/NijiENtards.

>22916501
>22915979
>22915933
Thanks for reading my post

This is the gayest /#/ thread I've seen. And I've seen threads where male wins daily golds and unironic 'male' lewds were posted

>>22916588
we used to suck kings and hal's dicks back in the day
still not as gay as ameg or infinity

>>22916391
Nice, I want to post sweaty Mio.

>>22916672
Mio is insanely sexy without even trying. It's actually crazy.

MIO WILL SLIP
THE DAMN WITCH WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH HER CRIMES, NOT AFTER SHE CURSED MY OSHI TO THE DEPTHS OF DAMNATION
BLOOD WILL BE PAID WITH BLOOD

>>22916391
Ehh I will put it around low to mid 20k. Not like she has that many audience to begin with, also as >>22916478 said she hasn't been gone for that long, not to mention there really isn't anything she could use as tourist magnet like how Kanata's grandpa dying right before her return (sorry Kanata) or the usual Eugene C talks. Might get higher than the weekly OhaSuba but I don't think it will get gold.

>>22916501
It’s a tried and true Chinese classic, obfuscate and reiterate bullshit until the other side gives in. Ignore them, just redirect the topic back to where they don’t want the focus to be on (Luxiem’s strange graphs).

>>22913073
explain this
inb4 pre-processing

>>22916766
>It’s a tried and true Chinese classic
>Chinese
kek, not in the western world, it even has a funny ethnic name
>pilpul
in an analogy of that tribe’s self admitted rabbinic tradition of hair splitting and misdirection when debating contradicting parts of their holy text.

>>22916481
she's going to do the morning totsu next week anyway
if nothing else happens you'll get full week of Mio lewds

Samurai needs to improve her thumb game

>>22916766
>Luxiem’s strange graphs
If you filter some keywords, no one's stopping you, you know

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1517413061379956737
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1517413061379956737
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1517413061379956737
>Niji gold
>Niji gold
>Niji gold

>>22916996
>splatoon
why

>>22916993
Guaranteed 30k+ daily gold let's gooooo

>>22917073
nintendo perms fee
everyone will play splatoon this weekend

>>22917060
Here, to help save anons an offsite click

>>22917060
>30th April
Isn't that Kanata's new outfit reveal?

>>22917060
>>22917101
I know Kaida is way more popular than the other two in his wave but who is more popular between Genzuki and Nagao?

>>22917101
>a male 3d
ah shit

>>22916996
Its splatoon the only game iroha can collab with others?

>>22917101
>4/30 on 21 JST
Warabeda graduation shafted?

>>22917135
Nagao

>>22917073
Both of them like Splatoon

When is Raindrops/Warabeda farewell live happening?

>>22917251
>>22917164
Now that you guys mention it, they didn’t really say she would be making a last stream, did they?

They had that Raindrop live the other day, maybe that was it?

How do we save /#/ bros....

>>22917299
That's like rejecting free money, why would they even do that unless they were terminated.

>>22917126
HOLOLIVE VS NIJISANJI IN A STRAIGHT UP MATCH LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>22917126
wot

>>22917126
Isn’t that on the 29th

>>22917126
On the 29th

>>22917405
Yeah 29th. 30th should be confirmed for NijiGold I guess

30th is Saturday. Isn't it more likely for Hololive to have at least one 50k+ stream during that day?

>>22917476
It’s a niji male. He’s going to get above 60k for sure

>>22917446
It depends, it's the golden week for nips, so the 3D was really targeted for people to watch and have their weakest link be on the 13th kek and most popular by the end of the golden week. Kei Nagao is the 2nd popular out of the 3.

Cover might have some plans for golden week too.

>>22917476
Here's from the future
>Subaru FF7R 26k
>Ohasuba 23k
>Miko ER 20k
>Peko ER 24k
>Noel ER 16k
>Lamy ER 12k
>Botan ER 17k
>Kanata ER 28k
>Aqua lol no

>>22917101
>GW
>Kaida
Yup ez gold

>>22917101
So, this is gonna be a golden week showdown? 3D male debuts vs whatever Cover cooks up that could contest that. The battle for early may.

>>22917476
no, not really, weekends have gotten worse and worse since everyone is using them for "long rpg/long stream" dump days, so it's like 12 hours straight of overlap hell

I remember the recent Nijimale 3D is Gaku, who only got like 35k ccv, right?

>>22917514
Council (and maybe IRyS) casual outfits for golden week maybe?

>>22917583
>IRyS
>New outfit
Lmao no

>>22917581
isn't gaku like a 2k median dude normally, how are the medians of the next 3 3Ds

>>22917476
>Isn't it more likely for Hololive to have at least one 50k+ stream during that day
Well…
>Greetings traveller, it’s a good thing you woke up from your coma, let me catch you up really fast.
>Coco Meme Review…. well, you may want to sit down for this

>>22917101
4/25 niji gold
4/30 niji gold
5/1 niji gold
5/6 niji gold
5/13 niji gold

>>22917581
Gaku 3D peaked at 90k lol

Kaida is more or less above Gaku, but his prestige isn't as big as Gaku. Gaku waited 4 years for a 3D. So all of them is gonna be around 50-90k at most, but big SCs anyway.

>>22917476
would be shame if someone decided to do solo master grind that day wouldn't it?

>>22917540
His 3d has already been shown a bunch, so it may not be as high as it could have been if it was the first time showing it. Still going to get gold for sure. There is a decent amount of hype for Nagao because he’s one of the few Niji males that can actually dance and he can do choreographed fighting. Genzuki will get a buff because all three of them will probably be there together and perform

>>22917607
HoloX casual outfits then?

>>22917662
Anon... She's not going to stream...

>>22917583
>>22917667
They could fit HoloX and Council outfits in golden week theoretically, then a 3D debut for holoX at the middle of the month spaced by one week then EN 3.

>>22917555
last year we have Myth outfit on golden week
so it's logical to assume we'll have some for Council this year

>>22917581
You’re thinking about Suzuya Aki who is literally the most boring Vtuber in their company

>>22917641
>5 golds
>big events
pft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYYMGJMCxVA

Oof

Who's next in the line after VALZ? It's a female gen right?

>>22917667
HoloX bikini outfits. Guarrantee 200k ccvs. Laplus alone will mog Nijisanji for centuries to yt88k

>>22917739
Suisei doing good, converse eating good. Fuck converse though, should've made sneakers for her.

>>22917739
Sasuga hololive

They're guaranteed golds my dudes, the only thing that competes with these is like 3D lives for high mids or higher holos

>>22917739
Since when are these selling?

>>22917725
Oh you're right. I mixed them all up

>>22917804
Their twitter says 4/22 so either the usual 0000 or 0900 JST when stores open up

>>22917802
Outfit reveals of mid to high tier Holos should be enough to beat those 3Ds. VALZ isn't exactly the most popular group except for Kaida. He's confirmed to have ROFMAO be in there with him. So, around 100k. Either Laplus/Chloe should have an outfit reveal at that time.

Shiki hit 120k subs btw

>>22917843
I wouldn't trust shit on Laplus to be honest, after that stunt she pulled for the new year kimonos

>>22917843
Do not underestimate fujos.

>>22917583
Maybe, but Cover hasn't released anything about it yet so who knows if we get Fashion Week this year or not. It worked out pretty well last year.

>>22917843
The last time you fuckers told me that chammers got 25k.

>>22917843
>He's confirmed to have ROFMAO be in there with him
Not confirmed for all of them to be there. I could only see Fuwa being there

>>22917903
Fuwa 3D even had Kuzuha and Kagami in there with him lol. It's easy to get the other 3 in.

>>22917897
Chammers debuffed herself too hard, she's hardly relevant now.

>>22917887
Tourists*

>>22917883
Eh, Kimono was at the peak of CCVID. Without CCVID, it probably would have been a 85-90k+ CCV judging by how much other HoloJP were culled (and it was a midday JST release too IIRC)

>>22917739
I'm glad it sold well. The design could be better though....

>>22917965
that was not the problem with that relay, it was that laplus revealed it in the first 5 mins and then didn't funnel properly

>>22917998
kek I forgot about this, it got 21k before going back. Wait, their outfits at this time was in CCVID?

>>22917968
Ironically the one with the shittiest design (white T) sold out first...
Sneakers when cover AAAAAAAA

>>22918010
yep, right in the middle of it

>>22917998
Laplus loves to sabotage her genmates. She should never be the first one in any relay, ever.

>>22918075
Yeah lui should be the first one while laplus be the last person

>>22918075
sadly, cover rules are it's on debut order, so lui is always gonna get fucked if it's a relay again

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1517416308073439235
Marine return from COVID + Big Announcement stream tomorrow
What kind of numbers should this get?

>>22918126
Mio gonna get mogged.

https://youtu.be/r20vlEbFGyo
Lui ballad cover

>>22918126
is the announcement the orisong she performed at fes3

>>22918175
it's the announcement of the orisong reveal concert, yeah

Big announcement on tomorrow Shuieisha sponsor stream

>>22918061
Speaking of which, here are the numbers for the outfit reveals and their current ccv.

La+ - 21893 ccv - 466962 views
Chloe - 39513 ccv - 524375 views
Iroha - 36412 ccv - 383952 views
Koyori - 27674 ccv - 308536 views
Lui - 19577 ccv - 274223 views

For comparison,
Kanata 5/5 outfit reveal - 89652 ccv - 614700

HoloX was robbed that day

>hololive
>no one is live

>>22918175
>>22918211
>>22918227
Maybe they hired marine to illustrate a page?

>>22918253
>Nijisanji
>No one stream at 2AM or 3AM

>>22918021
Unfortunately, it's up to Converse not Cover.

>>22918253
>NijiEN
>9 streams at the JP slot

>>22918227
M kei.. This could be yours...

>>22917961
Chink bots*

>>22918227
Hololive oneshot manga?

The ending of levergacha is today right?

So, what's next for Nijisanji if their only weekly 3D program is out? They're gonna rush more 3D debuts?

>>22918448
Death, I hope

>>22918448
Who knows. They might announce another 3D program to replace it

>>22918448
Looks like they'll be going back to once a week if they can since they're doing 3 in a row.

>>22918230
Council was robbed as well.

Also I just looked, pretty bad numbers for Mika/Hana off collab, no?

Fuck, Kino Saturday

>>22918448
Levergacha operates similar like a TV show right, it also gathers 10k+ people watching it every week. A normal TV show makes money from putting ads from sponsors, so why hadn't Anykara capitalize on that and put unskippable ads into their premiers or events to make more money?

In fact, why don't they?

Anyone got screenshot of that one Reine pool?

>>22918493
Look at her graph.
Now compare it to the streams she had the NijiEn boys present.
I refuse to claim bots without further evidence, but I really wish we had a big VPN audience to test if the odd graphs from NijiEN(CN audience) is just a wacky artifact of how YT verifies VPN viewers

>>22918493
>Also I just looked, pretty bad numbers for Mika/Hana off collab, no?
>14' in
>2 NijiID collabs
>No male
What did you expect?

>>22918599
Viewbots =/= Viewfarms

What they're using are farms not bots. Please understand that.

>>22918565
Based monomers, saving EN MC one clawful at a time.

>>22918227
Eh probably just the actual publishing of said compilation special that they will make in that stream and selling it on limited quantity.

>>22918630
Right, I'm aware of the distinction, but it'd be great to just have an audience of say 10k actual people with VPNs to see if the same behavior shows up, because it'd quash this stupid nonsense once and for all of we had good evidence that these graphs are an artefact of VPNs and not viewfarms.

>>22918493
>Hana
She stop being relevant long ago. She's Iofi tier now or even worse.
>Mika
Don't let her April numbers fool you. Her floor is about 600~900 without leeching from Luxiem/Noctyx.

>>22918597
>Reine pool
here you go anon

>>22918227
maybe they'll actually continue the holoalt manga?
it's been on hiatus since november due to twitter being a pain to read manga on i think?

Like 10 straight minutes of full panic screaming from Koyori got her a big increase in viewers.

>>22918633
She's gonna continue the Hololive drawing stream soon. Can't believe the only EN that got a good schedule is fucking Moom

>>22918759
>Tab out
>Hear your oshi screaming like a little bitch
> Tab in and spam 草 or www

https://youtu.be/rE3j_RHkqJc
This needs to be required watching for everyone posting on /vt/

>>22918759
average koyoden moment, just her running past a shit ton of enemies while screaming like a maniac

>>22918356
Hololive oneshota manga

Newfag question, but so we have any idea how much the Holo girls etc. could be making or even what kind of contracts do they have?

Ngo got 10k viewers with a stream that was just her watching Elu play Apex.
Also she has called Elu by her full name most of the time kek

Korone and Miko 200M views get.

>>22906700
>https://holo.poi.cat/
Still no ID3, Yagoo hates Indogs.

>>22919105
More than your oshi

>>22919213
?

>>22919213
Dumb bitch

>>22919105
On SC, the split is 30% to YT, 35% to the talent and 35% to cover. We know they also make more on Merch/sponsorships than SC, but no we dont have exact % or amounts, only that the talents get the majority of merch sales. We did have gross merch sales for a time but some faggot spilled the beans on Reddit and Cover patched the method to get them.

>>22919213
Dumbass

>>22919213
where are you come from?

>>22919213
KEK, this anon is lost cause

>>22919105
We don't really know. We think it's more than you'd think since sponsorships/collabs are a big unknown to us and many of them stop behaving like they needed money.

>>22919105
Short answer, no.
What we do know is that Hololive talents get 35% of the total superchat shown in sites like Playboard. (Youtube cut 30%, Cover cut 35%)
Also as for which reaps them the most money, personally I would rank it
Sponsorships >= Merchs >> Superchats >> Ad-rev
Sponsorships a bit higher than merchs because those come to them via Cover so there should be no loss whatsoever, while for merchs the more creative freedom they put into it the more cut they will get, but that also mean the more production cost that they need to pay for.

>>22919267
like, if some of them can justify go over a month playing an unmonetizable game, I doubt they're hurting for money too mucn lmao

Risu got 1k with Nier repicant. Nice.

>>22916996
> preparing thumbnail
I think she doesn't have one yet

>>22919231
I'm still salty about that. That fucking faggot just had to ruin it for everyone.

>>22919267
a youtube channel with 1.2m subs but averaging 50k views per vid is getting 65,000 per sponsored 10 minute video, i wont be surprised if a single hour long sponsored stream on a average holo (~1m subs) brings in more than 200k

>>22919315
>>22919231

Youtube get 30%? Is that normal for streamers?

>>22919444
Going rate for ALL Superchat/superthanks/memberships.

>>22918448
any inkling on why they decided to end one of their most popular 3D programs?

>>22919105

Noa with 8k and Ema with 5k. VSPO really got stronger.

>>22919451
Is that so?
By my naive sense of what sounds right, I'd set it to like 10.
Then again, I beliebe Valve takes 30 from game sales on Steam, so maybe 30 to the platform provider is normal.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1517443095687688192

>>22919465
>all those american dollars and other currencies of importance converted into the falling yen and the payout is in yen
Kinda sad that these streamers can't keep the money in the currency it started from without dealing with """conversion rates"""

>>22919565
Suisei gets the best everything. Noel got gay ass shounen and Laplus got gay ass shoujo.

>>22919491
>Valve
Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Youtube, almost all companies takes 30% fee.

>>22919565
>Suisei didn't have her star in her eyes

This is fake blue women.

Gotta say this is some weird turn of events. Here are the streams at the moment this screen was made

>13593: VSPO (2 streams)
>11582: Hololive (1 stream)
>8889: Nijisanji EN (2 streams)
>3843: Nijisanji (2 streams)
>3177: .LIVE (1 stream)
>2612: Nijisanji ID (3 streams)
>1579: Animare (1 stream)
>1328: Hololive ID (1 stream)
>1255: Holostars (2 streams)
>946: NoriPro (1 stream)
>718: Neo Porte (1 stream)
>362: Hiyoku no Crosspiece (1 stream)
>243: Nijisanji KR (1 stream)
This was taken 7:15PM JST.

Granted, there is a premiere on Nijisanji main channel at 20k+ but it is really weird to see this few streamers at this slot, to a point VSPO can claim the top stop of the ongoing live streams

>>22919491
30% is bussiness standard at this point.

Twitch take 50% from every bit that viewer donated tho but donno about subs.

Both Youtube and Twitch allowed 3rd party donation like Streamlabs, etc with no cut but need the owner to paid for services montly.

>>22919682
Holo have this with no other holomens stream at the same time.

Expecting today Gold

>>22919491
>maybe 30 to the platform provider is normal.
>>22919645
>Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Youtube, almost all companies takes 30% fee.
All following on Apple footsteps with their App Store and Music store.

Before that each player had to negotiate their rates with the companies they wanted to make business and keep it close to their chest as some sort of trade secret, with big players getting more favorable rates and small players getting shafted.

This "30% fixed rate across the board" was a breath of fresh air in the industry

>>22919682
Probably another top-heavy day.

>>22919688
Twitch partners do get 70% from subs, they'll take 50% if you're a partner

>>22919722
>Holo have this with no other holomens stream at the same time.
That's my surprise, the girls usually shift their primetime streams to around this slot to avoid the overlap of death in the hour immediate after the event
Maybe Kanata event will be a "live live" instead of pre recorded?

>>22919734
>Probably another top-heavy day.
Most definitely

>>22919627
the real winner

>>22919315
>Superchats >> Ad-rev
this is really really wrong. Many streamers have said that donations aren't really that big, meanwhile ads revenue is very good especially if you can get youtube premium viewers

>>22912130
now try doing this to holoen's sawtooth graphs

>>22919783
This assumption is heavily dependent on who you are talking to.

>Everyone is streaming after kanata's live
So fucking dumb

>Suisei NSO
Numbers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLBK-9g_Kc

>>22919864
these slots were literally free, it was literally just koyo stream 11 of ER and she's weak as hell to overlaps

>>22919682
this show the importance of someone like Rushia or Miko in the early slots
nobody fucking likes to stream at these hours
espically on events where everyone just want that sweet funnel

>>22919889
Yab

>>22919864
Yes and no. It is dumb because it causes a murder row scenario big names will eat the others. But it's the right attitude in general trying to catch the funnel, but if you aren't one of the big dogs maybe you should schedule at another time.

>>22919864
I know right? They should overlap Kanata's live like Pekora.

>>22919819
nah I'm sure only Luxiem has higher SC than VOD views

Surprised Risu got 1.5k with Replicant. Don't remember her Automata streams getting that.

Are these normal numbers for the Koyote Elden Ring? 14k seems on the high side.

>>22919783
Well obviously I was talking about the Hololive talents. They are mainly streamers, not a video uploader. The Emperor even talked about it in his note here.
https://note.com/shibuyahal/n/nd98a73f6a82c
Basically, the viewers coming to watch VOD of a livestream aren't consistent. The more livestream you do the lesser will they click on the old VODs and just watch the most recent one. You could even observe this phenomenon by looking at how views for a livestream VOD usually limps two or three days after the showing.
For your usual run-of-the-mill contemt creator? You might be right. For hololive talents where people throw money at them even just for sneezing? No chance.

>>22919864
The only positive thing really is that Subaru's stream is a watch along so it wont be like a normal stream. Depending on what Pekora plays Okayu might be the only Elden ring stream for 30 minutes, Botan doing GBF which is a big buff for nips. Suisei late with nso, but buff from new cover on reines channel and it being a fitting game for her.

Kiara, flare+luna, watame, koyori, ollie, kaela are if anything going to get their loyal core.

>>22919993
Literally the only Holomem live right now.
>>22919889
Yab
Also probs 10k, maybe 15k max? There's going to be HELL overlap at 10pm JST.

>>22919940
? she's scheduled after the live

>>22919105
Anons have already talked about the superchat cuts but be aware those cuts came from Coco in 2020. Through Lamy, we know that Coco and Rushia renegotiated the cuts and she probably did herself. However, those seem to be based on the original part-timer content creator Cover contract from 2018. I suspect that 2021 brought new contracts for everyone that look totally different from the hints we have.

>>22919993
on the high side, with one overlap she's around 10-12k, more than that it's like 7-8k

>>22919864
It's a combo of -get home late from work meetings- and -dont overlap Kanata-.
Otherwise it would make little sense for there to be noone streaming eqrly besides Koyori.

so it's nene, subaru, aqua, aki and mel as guests right? Eh, not even sure it's worth to watch.

>>22920002
Yea. The fact that Gura's old VODs still pick up views is an anomaly within Hololive. Also, at least for Hal, it doesn't help that many of HIS VODs are fucking apex, which holds very little value in 'going back to watch it after its not live'.

>>22919940
about that https://youtu.be/rIjsfylR6Sk

>>22920099
>middle of timeslot
Why

>>22920099
keeping up with the id traditions!

Mysta's graph. Sure is common for there to be 5 minutes of plateau followed by an increase.

>>22920002
I'm talking about Twitch streamers though and people care even less about Twitch VODs than youtube VODs. Most ads revenue comes from people who watch streams not people who watch VODs

Kino Suisei's NSO stream right after her songs collab at Reine channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLBK-9g_Kc

what number today?

>>22919900
the people who usually funnel events are all out unfortunately
Miko = sick
Mio = sick
Nene = Menhera?
Kanata = usually with her Mii shit, but can't funnel herself can't she?
Pekora = stop doing it long time ago, you're lucky she doesn't fucking overlaps the event

>almost 8 pm jst
>elden ring buff game
>literally no one else is streaming right now
>koyori can't even break 15k
What the fuck went wrong with this Gen? This is just sad at this point

>>22920273
beating mori elden ring number tho

>>22918869
sir, this is not twttr. if (you) bite the bait, probably should leave and return to whichever forum (you) are from
this on the other hand is a required watch for newfags https://youtu.be/RY_2gElt3SA