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>> No.22813990
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>22813983
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.22814032
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>> No.22814036

Found out that it's 30 cents per hour for one view with VPN in china, then 2k viewers is only $600 per hour.

>> No.22814072

>>22814036
A measly aka supa

>> No.22814078

>>22814036
source? is it easy to arrange it?

>> No.22814081

Newfag here, but what is the reasoning given behind HoloEN being culled but not NijiEN males? Asian viewers aren't culled? If that is the case then how is HoloID supposedly being culled even worse than HoloEN?

>> No.22814088

>>22813967
mysta isnt that popular with chinese for some reason.
Also Shu's jp streams are really specific and tailored to JP.

>> No.22814098

>>22814036
Money really isn't an issue considering the superchats these bitches are dumping on these manwhores.

>> No.22814112

>>22813940
This example would make some sense if Sana has shown she can get 10k+ in CN/JP times, which she hasn't.

Shu, on the other hand:
https://vrabi.net/video/jyeYLcWasz0
https://vrabi.net/video/_BwUQ4aJYIE
https://vrabi.net/video/oj2DBTW43lI

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https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1516793813418663938
Theyve done it again!!!

>> No.22814117

>>22814032
Kanae... Them EN stole your fujos huh

>> No.22814128

>>22813908
same shit, any opened stream without actual human watching them counted as a bot

>> No.22814131

>>22814081
is more about asian viewers having cleana ccoutns o no accoutns at all. and for some reason youtube doesnt take time in validating them.

>> No.22814137

>>22814081
adblock use

>> No.22814184 [DELETED] 

سلام. مون وٽ هڪ تمام پيچيده ٽيڪنيڪل سوال آهي جيڪو مان ڪجهه هوشيار ماڻهن کان پڇڻ چاهيندس /g/.

سڀ کان پهريان، Intel i3 تي اسپيس ڪوانٽا ڪيئن ٺاهيو؟ ڪوريا ۾ اڃا تائين ڪو Pentium ناهي.

ٻيو، مان هڪ GPU ڪٿي ڳولي سگهان ٿو ڪافي رابطي سان؟ ٻيهر، اسان جي ملڪ ۾ ليبارٽري بغير ڪنهن رڪاوٽ جي هڪ گهڙي تائين پهچي وئي آهي.

توهان جي مدد لاء مهرباني. هي اسان جي ترقي جو آخري مظهر آهي.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU2AjfJ2zLw

>> No.22814192

>>22814081
chinese viewers supposedly use vpns without an account?

>> No.22814198

>>22814184
???

>> No.22814206
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Oh there are tons of paid services for views on pretty much all social media sites. Here's just the first one to pop up on google. It's not that expensive either. Human life and time is cheap in China, India, and the other places they outsource this crap

>> No.22814218

Kobo has great ccv but will indog be a good market since they are too poor to buy merch even her superchat are sad

>> No.22814219

>>22814184
Why Persian though?

>> No.22814225

For anyone curious, this is what chinese viewfarm looks like. They mostly use them to promote products on ecommerce sites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU4sGCVZqWo

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En bros...

>> No.22814235

>>22814112
>a karaoke
>a celebration and finishing jumpking
>the remake of LB that is popular with JPs
and then you have valorant crushing ALL OF THOSE with overlap.

>> No.22814271

>>22814225
>They mostly use them to promote products on ecommerce sites.
And in their douyin streams (tiktok)

>> No.22814275
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I was actually surprised how cheap views are. Not views in general but "sticky" views, ie views that don't get culled long term

>> No.22814293

>>22814218
anon, indos pay with sociabuzz or streamlabs, we have no idea how much they're getting paid, but the other indos seem to be doing well, they're always making covers/buying keyboards.

>> No.22814301

>>22814081
Why can't newfags lurk more?
Fucking
Go to the archive and search "Zeta poll" or some similar key words

>> No.22814303

Does anybody here feel sorry for Yugo she could have being more successful had she audition for VSPO , Neo Porte or HoloJP

>> No.22814327

>>22814112
Yeah that example was stupid. Shu is way more popular than Sana on her gen. It's just that hechasn't used this timezone properly like others Luxiem to his advantage. Shu is more like an Ina (can actually pull numbers in JP primetime) than a Sana.

>> No.22814335

>>22814303
i dont think anyone cares about yugo

>> No.22814336

>>22814224
>zuma
>7k
lol

>> No.22814343

>>22814235
>It's a JP zatsu, not a karaoke.
>He was above 10k for over half the stream during JP time, 2 hours before he finished the game and got a spike
>Shu getting 10k with Ib in JP times puts him in the same tier as Kanae and Fuwa, who also got around that for their Ib streams.

>> No.22814352

>>22814081
>Culled this culled that
Shut the fuck up

>> No.22814354

>>22814225
those are culled by youtube though

>> No.22814378
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For the low, low price of 1 (ONE) akasupa, your oshi can get on the daily tally!

>> No.22814385

>>22814275
>vod views
The chumbuds favorite website

>> No.22814428
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>>22814303
>VSPO
>Neo Porte

>> No.22814438

>>22814354
It's not that simple. Cheap views often get culled. You pay more for long-term views that don't get culled. There's an entire industry based around these things and their customers aren't total idiots. And they have way more incentive than Youtube's pajeets

>> No.22814446

>>22814336
Truly a buff game

>> No.22814465

>>22814378
Those are vod views, not sustained ccv despite the name anon

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>>22814206
Is this a scam site? Have anyone tried it? It's $21 for 2k views. If this was true, I would've botted my two view indie.

>> No.22814492

>>22814303
>more successful
what makes you think she has a chance to get in any of those

>> No.22814500

>>22814385
i think even youtube would notice if all the views for 300 videos came from a single building

>> No.22814505

>>22814081
largely new audience that didn't show much interest in Vtubers or youtube streaming before, at least not enough to participate in a relay and get flagged as a bot, that was the theory at least. From what I remember luxiem numbers didn't change at all when last strain of CCVID was removed so it wasn't affecting them at the time that's for sure.

>> No.22814513

>>22814206
>boost your organic growth
lol

>> No.22814528

anyone know what these view farms are called in chinese? I want to see if anyone is talking about them on weibo.

>> No.22814531

>>22814303
Yugo is a singer streamer, not a gamer or an idol.
Niji is where she fits and she gets bad numbers because she's a bad streamer.

>> No.22814549

>>22814293
Kobo's sociobuzz is now at 2k donation, if one donation is at least 15k idr, then she already got at least 30m idr from there..

>> No.22814601

>>22814343
yeah jp zatsu, my bad
but still the point is he gotmore than anything there with heavy overlap. Also shu is the only one having 2-3k drops in his views.even mysta numbers are more reseved by jumping from 9k to 8k most of the time.
accounting for rounds ending shu numbers are just more volatile. BUt we will see once the vods finsih processing tomorrow.

>> No.22814602

>>22814482
Do you think those stupid Bitcoin scams are real? They are botted to shit and that's after all of Susan's attempts to filter them. But if a Bitcoin channel gets nuked they make another one. Bot your oshi and they risk getting fucked over and it's not so easy to just make a new channel if it's tied to your vtuber identity. These chink fujos are playing a risky game but they probably assume (correctly) they can stay ahead of Youtube's pajeets if they keep things "reasonable"

>> No.22814621

>>22814327
Sana pulled 4k with Kirby on fucking EU timeslot. Get the fuck out of here.

>> No.22814625

King started a stream a while ago btw

>> No.22814650

>>22814513
That's the rationalization they and their customers use. They are just advertising so they can boost their "real" growth.

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>>22814465
Why would you need to be live if it was VOD views? And why would that be a separate category to views on a regular video?

>> No.22814685

>>22813291
Because most other places of discussion are actively hostile to them and the reddit like upvote system of that site allows them to create a safe spot for themselves

>> No.22814687

>>22814032
Why does Shu have the highest views, is he the best player out of them? Also do Noctyx not even have POVs?

>> No.22814691

>>22814625
10min isnt a while ago.

>> No.22814699

>>22814549
that's more than double the monthly salary in indonesia so she's doing insanely well

>> No.22814732

>>22814114
GO KANATA GO

>> No.22814735

i think mysta views are more legit than most of luxiem. not sure why chinese hate mysta

>> No.22814742

What's the reasoning for buying view anyway, boosting algorithm?

>> No.22814756
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Holokeks?

>> No.22814764

>>22814500
If a college dorm had 300 views do you think they automatically get filtered? And obviously there are very basic things like VPN or spoofed ips to get around that sort of thing. Just because they are scum doesn't mean they are stupid. They make money because enough of the views stick their customers think it's worth paying for and there is a ton of competition.

>> No.22814770

>>22814354
See the funny thing is, youtube culling system is fucking retarded and is more likely to flag actual users because it flags using view history, which viewfarms can sidestep easily because they're not using accounts in the first place.

>> No.22814780

>>22814602
>Expecting youtube to do something
If anything, this will affect the legit fans/watchers more that VPN/bot users.

>> No.22814781

>>22814742
boosts their views for the algo, potentially gets them more sponsors/ads, gets more visibility

>> No.22814786

>>22814742
Vanity?

>> No.22814798

>>22814682
Maybe you should start by reading the footnote. It clearly says orders would be fulfilled within 24h, and had it been ccv the rate would've be per measure of time. They're selling a 30 second view of a livestream vod.

>> No.22814822

>>22814742
>why do kpop fans buy views
just bragging rights i guess

>> No.22814824

>unannounced first Home3D use on a shitty flight sim
>triple overlap at 2 am
>guerilla stream at 4 am
Was HoloEN having an anti-numberfag competition or something?

>> No.22814840

>>22814303
I heard she had some kind of gender dysphoria issue and absolutely was determined to be a male streamer. Maybe that's bullshit who knows.

>> No.22814852

>>22814824
HoloEn literally does not give a fuck about numbers, this has NEVER been news.

>> No.22814866

don't let this distract you from the fact that nijisanji has failled to win a single gold this month and are on track to being the first month without a gold

>> No.22814901

>>22814206
I remember the Russian ones being even cheaper.

>> No.22814906
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A little early but might as well get the list out of the way

>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,-464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,461 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,033 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,729 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,697 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,412 - Shiraken Human fall flat

> PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
2x: Okayu
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko

>> No.22814908

>>22814824
>unannounced first Home3D use on a shitty flight sim
That 13k stream is at 345k views right now. Just ridiculous.

>> No.22814938

>>22814621
What does that have to do with anything he said?
4k is nothing to brag about anyways when Sana had 0 overlap, it was just funny that she beat Selen again.
It's a farcry from pulling 10k every time you stream in JP times like Shu does.

>> No.22814948

>>22814852
Sorta based as annoying as it is. I get the feeling for Myth especially they all had their low, mid, high, and dream expectations before they debuted, and they rocketed past those into "I don’t' actually want this much attention" territory for some of them. Once you have "enough" money there are a lot of other factors you start to prioritize.

>> No.22814954

>>22814824
It was the back of her head, she could do another 3D "debut" and 90% of the audience wouldn't even know she used it before, and the other 10% would watch it anyway because they're hardcore enough chumbuds to watch her play a shitty flight simulator.

>> No.22814963

>>22814742
just braggin

>> No.22814965

>>22814906
THAT FUCKING GUY WHO POSTED NIPPLE BOY EARLY GOT JINXED

>> No.22814978

>>22814824
it's barely home3d because you only see her back, she never turned around and switched to 2d for the sc reading

>> No.22814980

fucking kill yourself already hal gold schizo

>> No.22814990

>>22814770
Sure it's wonky for ccv but youtube is pretty good at culling fake views.

>> No.22815008

>>22814824
Are they actually super popular despite piss poor metrics or something? They dont seem to try and chase or hype something, may be except Mori. Game choices are some real unpopular games too, as if they know something and can do whatever. Real bizarre, many streamers try to corporate FOTM or Minecraft every now and then or create hype stream to get people excited, these girls just do whatever.

>> No.22815010

>>22814901
My theory was always the Russkies were more expensive per person but they just had more competent coders/scripters who could automate more of the grunt work (switching ips, controlling multiple devices, etc)

>> No.22815014

>>22814938
Because he tried to argue using the timeslot, retard. How fucking bad is your reading comprehension?

>> No.22815019

So, Niji won the EN gold today, but slipped the actual gold then?

>> No.22815022
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>>22814852
Case in point, they're going to do a fucking sequel of this dogshit collab game.
Bae barely got 3k this time and Moona didn't even get 2k.
They could've just fired up Minecraft and gotten at least 5k each.

And Bae is doing a SC reading stream tomorrow.

>> No.22815026

>King squandered his gold chance by streaming ztsdn unannounced in the middle of the night
Why is he like this, kneelbros?

>> No.22815028

>>22814756
her your (you) indog, consolation for trying

>> No.22815032

>>22814906
Nipple Bros...

>> No.22815044

>>22814906
kys fake tally anon

>> No.22815060

>>22814980
>hal gold schizo
he had a mental breakdown the other day over this, 20+ deleted posts
>>22731238

>> No.22815069
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if you still had any doubts bots are involved in the luxiem numbers, just check vox's sub growth numbers. It is a constant 5k, with round ups sometimes landing it on 4k or 6k, no matter what he streams, and not even the sub endurances manage to change that speed.

>> No.22815071

>>22814990
>Sure it's wonky for ccv but youtube is pretty good at culling fake views.
They're better at culling real views

>> No.22815084

>>22814866
They've come close several times they've just had exceptionally bad luck to have their buffest content also overlap peak Aqua and Hal at his best. Like a third of their relevant streamers were tied up in that Apex tournament half the month while only 2 Holos were.

>> No.22815087

So can we compare Kuzuha's current stream VOD views to the Niji EN boys VOD views

>> No.22815092

>>22814980
Cope seethe dilate

>> No.22815098

>>22814948
As much as people like to shit on Council they're clearly doing well for themselves. They don't NEED more, even if fans would like to see them succeed harder.

>> No.22815100

>>22815044
What a lost opportunity. Nippleman returns? Nipple porn apology? Nipple apology? What would it have been listed as? Now we may never know. If one of my closest friends did this I would make fun of him literally forever, at every opportunity. I can't imagine dealing with this as a public figure with actual antis.

>> No.22815117

>>22815010
No, the russian ruble is even worse than the yuan even before the recent war so they can afford to charge cheaper prices but still earning a living wage

>> No.22815119

>>22814990
No, no it really isn't. Those scam crypto streams which was the fucking trigger for this CCVID are already back to their numbers pre-cull, while chuubas (and even regular streamers) are still suffering from it.

>> No.22815127

Chama is doing mistress roleplay ASMR and you're talking about numbers.

>> No.22815131

>>22815014
What's even your point?
Everyone knows CN/JP time is Luxiem's best time slot, Shu is no exception.
He means Shu streaming at NA times is debuffing him and he hasn't moved over to CN/JP times like the rest of Luxiem to reap the benefits.

Do you know how to read? Sana's CCV is shit no matter what timeslot she's in.

>> No.22815142

>>22815092
Make your own tally NIGGER

>> No.22815144

>>22814218
their merch at official indogs store are sold out you morron, literally in 30 minutes, im so angry

>> No.22815169

>>22814980
COPE SEETHE MALD

>> No.22815179

>>22815026
Such is the price he has to pay for winning Vsaikyou

>> No.22815182

>>22815008
Anon your numberrot is showing.

>> No.22815188

>>22815010
Russians are actually amazingly productive at internet bullshit, probably half or more of the pirated/cracked stuff you see around is from Russians and even more of the malware.

>> No.22815189

>>22815100
Nipology would've been my choice, but i'm not tally anon

>> No.22815197

>>22815084
doesn't matter, close but no cigar

>> No.22815209

>>22815131
And everyone knows how fucking bad EU timeslot is for HoloEN, yet Sana can pull 4k with fucking Kirby.

>> No.22815215

>>22815098
Kiara's already thinking about passive income from rental properties, squeezing another 10K SC out of KFP is probably pretty low on her list of priorities. Ina was making plenty of money as an art goblin and could make even more now, but that's not really what she was looking for out of Hololive. In some ways I feel like it's part of why Myth especially retains some cache. They seem above it all

>> No.22815231

>>22815060
hahahaha holy shit i missed this because i was asleep, what a fucking nutcase

>> No.22815257

>>22815127
Who

>> No.22815272

>>22815169
>*hijacks tallies like a nigger*

>> No.22815273
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Click farms literally infest Bilibili, it's not a secret to chink viewers. You nijiniggers act like it's so outrageous to have botted streams but it's commonplace on there.

>> No.22815324

>>22815209
That anon probably doesn't understand that EU timeslot + Kirby is a double debuff.

>> No.22815328

>>22815182
Well shit, not even number but more behavior, since I read that many streamers are scared of taking a break as it loses them momentum and audience. Therefore I assume these girls know the same thing and at least try good or popular games, which in similar case help with popularity.

>> No.22815331

>>22815127
One day i'll graduate from my allergy with ASMR. Then I'm gonna check out my Oshi's ASMR stream.

>> No.22815345

>>22815069
Suspicious but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun. Certainly if they're willing to bot livestreams it's not unreasonable they would bot subs too. It seems almost nobody watches his VODs after they're live, and none really get any numbers except the high CCV streams.

>> No.22815350

>>22815209
The EU timeslot is bad because the EU timeslot has a low ceiling, the floor is fine.

Kiara plays Yakuza 0 ep8 and still gets 4k. Ina streams in late EU times and avgs 10k.
Getting 4k with no overlap in EU times is not evidence that Sana is strong at all.

>> No.22815351

>>22815273
Holy shit 90%. Youtube is estimated at 15-20% but obviously it's not evenly distributed. Chinks just have no shame. If you've ever dealt with them in a University setting you know exactly what I'm talking about

>> No.22815358

>>22815272
lies, cheats and deceives like a nijinigger
Remember this is why you never let them feel comfortable in a thread, they'll turn any respectable place of discussion into a thread of lies

>> No.22815367

>>22814081
Actually assuming Vox's statement was accurate they do have at least a minor culling. Either way like the other anons said, viewers are the ones that get marked as suspicious and not streamer accounts. If they didn't make adjustments to whatever it is that is marking accounts you'd expect them to follow the same pattern eventually as well if they did things like relays - assuming their viewers were willing to jump between each member rather than just watching one person only.

>> No.22815380

>>22814965
>>22815032
Looks like he applied too much lube and slipped. Hope the Nijifags don’t get their nipples in a twist over this, it would have been great seeing that on the Gold rankings for this month.

>> No.22815382

>>22815273
Yea its the same with gaming, the chinks dont see it as a problem using cheats/buying bots since they just see it as the normal thing to do if you got the money for it.

>> No.22815386

>>22815119
I mean vod views. It's a shame those scam live streams get privated after a stream so we can't ratio the ccv/vod views.

>> No.22815405

>>22815127
>ASMR
>Japanese
>Haachama

>> No.22815407

>>22815350
I always felt like Ina was early NA+EU more than EU. Kiara's early start streams are in literally no man's land, it's too early even for EU

>> No.22815429

Shu made a poll

>> No.22815436

>>22814218
you poor nijisanji fans don't project your poorness to rich holo indog fans, their merch sold out not long after announcement

>> No.22815448

>>22815273
for me not really, the moment I see some wonky graph over and over again I knew immediately it's view farms in action, but you know some dudes here is too naive or maybe they know and deflecting it

>> No.22815467

>>22815324
NTA, but being perfectly fair, Kirby is neither a buff or debuff for HoloEN. Of course, she also pulled 4k on her 6th Kirby stream which is... kinda impressive, now that I think about it.

>> No.22815475

>>22815407
Ina start often at 11PM Eu time, which is the end of primetime. Kiara either start a few hours before primetime, but stream entierly through it or start at primetime

>> No.22815485

>>22815429
ccv and poll count before 5 minutes please

>> No.22815484

>>22815367
The stream he claimed he had the 10% cull on had a normal graph though, not like these fucky ones we have been seing ever since Sony's first karaoke.

>> No.22815488

>>22815127
Anon, where do you think you are? Return when she gets 10k.

>> No.22815491

>>22815429
Watch it and screen shot the result

>> No.22815492
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22815492

>>22815358
das rite nigga

>> No.22815495
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22815495

pfft

>> No.22815513
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22815513

>>22815492
Seethe about it

>> No.22815523

>>22815429
>14k ccv
>6k in 3min
that is the amount of people that kiara had in her poll with only 10k

>> No.22815534

>>22814114
It's still up while it's taken down pretty fast when it happened to Suisei.

>> No.22815536

>>22814764
but do they have enough vpns to spoof vod views for 300 videos over like 2 years, consistently? without missing a single video?

>> No.22815538

>>22815495
what was the ccv?

>> No.22815537

>>22815273
Chinese morality doesn't even seem to consider cheating bad. Not all Chinese, but it's notable among mainlanders who grew up under the CCP.

>> No.22815543

Pekora still holding 20k people hostage

>> No.22815566

>>22815495
Remember to cap the CCV as well otherwise it means nothing

>> No.22815567

>>22815538
Double of that.

>> No.22815570

>>22815495
Kek. Rumao even. What are these pathetic numbers? I have it on good authority that fanbases with high engagement should get over 100% in that time frame.

>> No.22815580

>>22815495
Where the ccv?

>> No.22815597

>>22815495
Nijiniggers gonna say something like: Sometimes 8k people just doesn't like to vote. It happens

>> No.22815603

>>22815495
Its been months of this shit and you people are still fucking it up. The incompetence is fucking aggravating.

You need to capture the total number of votes, the time of the poll, and the current CCV of the stream.

>> No.22815615

>>22815367
Literally every streamer on youtube has some degree of culling, or rather a certain % of their viewers are in that state of not registering as a view for various reasons.

>> No.22815618
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22815618

he opened the poll when he was at 14k btw
This is less engagement than kairas collab btw

>> No.22815617

>>22815351
>>22815382
>>22815448
yeah and the thing is, it doesn't have to be some coordinated movement in the fujo fanbase, all it takes is literally one fujo paying a click farm and then you have a botted stream, that's it. the rest of the fanbase don't even have to know about it.

>> No.22815621
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22815621

>>22815495
That’s a good one

>> No.22815623

>>22814218
i know nijisanji fans is poor, even their doujin merch cant sold well on comifuro, but that's mean you cant apply that to hololive...

>> No.22815625

>>22815513
>36,512
>36,464
>which number is higher
You should be able to solve this anon.
Oh wait, you're a nigger lmao nvm

>> No.22815631

>look up shu to see the poll
>thumbnail says 16k watching
>click stream it says 12k watching

Excuse me

>> No.22815632

>>22815324
>>22815467
>6th Kirby stream
This was my point in the first place, like holy shit even with no overlap, the 6th stream of a game reaching only like 1k below the 1st one is really fucking good.

>> No.22815637

>>22815570
Maybe even 110%, Susan told me so.

>> No.22815641

This whole thread made me question why niggers is used more as an insult instead of chinks since the latter's behavior is borderline subhuman at least in this hobby/board

>> No.22815649

>>22815127
Oh wow she peaked more than okayu did, I'm surprised

>> No.22815665

>>22815625
yes anon we are going to trust the magic numbers you pulled out of your ass
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.22815667
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22815667

>>22815345
>It seems almost nobody watches his VODs after they're live, and none really get any numbers except the high CCV streams.
What are you even talking about? Vox's VODs are very strong (not Gura or Mori strong ofc), especially for someone with his CCV (10-11k).
Compare it to anyone in Council and no one compares except for maybe Mumei.
>No <100k VODs for weeks
>More 200k+ VODs than <200k VODs
>A couple of 300ks
He got 150k VOD views on a SC reading that peaked at 5k so either he's getting culled or his VOD growth is stronger than everyone in Council.

Just eyeball it.
Ina: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMwGHR0BTZuLsmjY_NT5Pwg/videos
Mumei: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3n5uGu18FoCy23ggWWp8tA/videos
Kronii: https://www.youtube.com/c/OuroKroniiCh/videos

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22815666

>>22815538
>>22815566
>>22815580
More than double.

>> No.22815683
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22815683

>>22815631
>>22815618
What the fuck is going on?

>> No.22815690

>>22815328
A recent nip study showed that streaming the same game over and over is actually better for building popularity and bonds with fans than chasing after popular games, though. Although it was one done with less popular streamers (those with less than 1,000 CCV), so maybe it doesn't apply to bigger chuubas

>> No.22815691

>>22815641
because this place is still 4chan

>> No.22815694

>>22815631
The same happened to me

>> No.22815698

>>22815618
I'm calling it a botted stream.

>> No.22815702

>>22815641
Nigger is a more funny word though.

>> No.22815703

>>22815666
Fuck i hate youtube.

>> No.22815705

>>22815665
>nigger can't read

>> No.22815713

>>22815618
Sometimes half of your viewers just don't like to vote.
t.nijichink

>> No.22815722

predict numbers for the debut (confirmed to be on YT)
https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1516702127355490304

>> No.22815725

>>22815641
Why do you guys even call nijifags, nijiniggers? Holobronies is somewhat understandable, but nijifans aren't even black, they're fucking yellow.

>> No.22815734

>>22815617
yeah, for me it's bit funny because some people use this shit when there's an election you know, to paint the candidate in a good light, now I see it again in chuuba scene

>> No.22815735

>>22814742
If your talent have great numbers it translate to better sponsorship deals and would look great to your investors

>> No.22815737

>>22815683
that is youtube ui being late to show changes it happens SOMETIMES but not sure what triggers it
he dropped from 14k to 12k and rising again to 14k

>> No.22815739

>>22815705
>The nijinigger screams as his gaslight attempts fail yet again

>> No.22815743

>>22815495
That's uh...pretty low. Could be people swapping between views. If they opened Shu first and swapped to another Shu would still hold their view (I believe). Also could be VPNs and bots, but it seems a weird stream to bother botting. Not really an events and fujos don't like pvp shit too much, they're just watching to see any interactions and if the guys flirt.

>> No.22815745

>>22815197
Gold is dumb fun anyway, median numbers at the end of the month is always a better indicator for performance.

>> No.22815746
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22815746

>>22815534
Well duh

>> No.22815748

>>22815722
80k

>> No.22815774

>>22815739
>nigger

>> No.22815783

>>22815722
50k floor

>> No.22815784

>>22815774
Seethe

>> No.22815804

>>22815774
Hal won, seethe about it

>> No.22815812

>>22815722
80-100k

>> No.22815820

>>22815597
sometimes 8k bots don't have script for doing vote, it happens

>> No.22815829

>>22815641
Nigger is just funnier and it's an all-purpose insult, most of the time it has nothing to do with actual niggers, just like people use fag outside of the context of actual homos. Chink still just means actual chinks.

>> No.22815835
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22815835

pretty sure most of his viewers right now arent or dont have a youtube account.

>> No.22815834

>>22815705
Just stop it, anon. He's just using this to famr (You)s so you replying to him is exactly what he wants. Just ignore him and maybe he'll just get mindbroken into meltdown like a couple days ago.

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22815852

>>22815784

>> No.22815868
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22815868

Yeah I can see why Kobo is getting good numbers with this, this game is virtual endorphins in a can. It's like Peggle mixed with tetris

>> No.22815874

>>22815835
Or Chink bots

>> No.22815877

>>22815743
Wouldn't more people swapping between POV give the poll a much better engagement though?

>> No.22815898

>>22815734
Good analogy, the kpop fujos basically consider the MV views an election to see who's the best by getting the most views, so who's to say chink fujos don't think the same way.

>> No.22815901

>>22815722
Depends on the overlap from her old audience but I think around what Kson got.

>> No.22815902

>>22815868
>not playing zuma as a kid
You lost, anon

>> No.22815914

>>22815834
Me too tbqh

>> No.22815927

>>22815835
And keep in mind, other fans from the other streams could’ve also heard about a pool and come to like. This is a multi person collab after all. So it’s pretty fucking ridiculous to see so much stall

>> No.22815932

>>22814336
Zuma is the new meta, guys. Pekora's gonna play it any day now

>> No.22815958

>>22815835
>Not 100% engagement
Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.22815964

>>22815835
If you used a VPN you wouldn't bother to make an account right? Of course if you were a bot you wouldn't either. VPNS and bot being almost identical makes this hard to disentangle.

>> No.22815982

>>22815641
Nijichinks doesn't sound as good.

>> No.22815985

Just a suggestion for more data, what about getting more VOD pattern from some non-vtuber streamers who have low CCV, see if they have good VOD or bad. What about Pewdiepie, his CCV is 25k or less I think?

>> No.22815991

Can we just please remove these boys from any ranking until their charts start looking normal?

>> No.22816003

>>22815964
Why would they not make an account since 600k of them have subbed to Vox. unless no one is actually using those accounts.

>> No.22816014

>>22815901
What did Kson get?

>> No.22816018
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22816018

>>22815874
i wouldnt call it that but i do think it is chink mainlander coming from somewhere.and they dont have youtube accounts. How legit they are is up for debate and only youtube will know but i wont balme anyone for doubting luxiem views

Anyone have kairas collab poll numebrs i know shedid 2 but didint save them

>> No.22816016

>>22815868
Ah, good times. I remember turning on the PC after school just to play feeding frenzy and other popcap games

>> No.22816019

>>22815127
>watching streams
Does anybody in this thread really?

>> No.22816041
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22816041

15 min poll and it still can't even get close to the ccv

>> No.22816043
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22816043

King with a timid 20k now. Why does he start his streams so late, true to his vampire lore?

>> No.22816042

>>22815985
There's no point in suggesting thing you can do yourself.
Do it, report your finding

>> No.22816047

>>22815985
Why would we go to that length? Pewdiepie's graph isn't recorded by vrabi. Playboard is fucking useless.

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22816056

>>22815932
Xia on suicide watch

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22816074

>>22816018
Reminder, in the same timespan

>> No.22816086

>>22816056
Jesas...
Yagoo please save the ID girls...Except MIka

>> No.22816094

>>22815725
Because like the tally hijacker (which is a NijiEN fag tbf), they literally chimp out like niggers when other people doesn't share their view

>> No.22816101

>>22816041
so holo got it worse than niji huh...
that zeta poll earlier...

>> No.22816109

>>22815617
It’s similar with the chinks spamming Holo streams. It’s basically just one or a few guys that have been on their own crusade for over a year now at this point.

>> No.22816135

>>22816074
And people say HoloEN is not culled.

>> No.22816147

>>22816074
Obviously viewer churn. 3000 people came in, voted, and left

>> No.22816212

>>22816019
roru nope, there were way to moments like WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SPIKE AHHHHHH when internet simply shat the bed.

>> No.22816213

>>22816147
Okay so explain Shu then nigger

>> No.22816214 [DELETED] 

So should /#/ organize a raid and mass report NijiEN account for botting ? Or >we just sit here and wait for Youtube to somehow notice the bullshit ?

>> No.22816254

>>22816213
I think the anon is joking...

>> No.22816262

>>22816214
fuck off, i'd rather report you

>> No.22816271

>>22816254
yeah, just like nijiniggers lying about numbers right?

>> No.22816273

>>22816214
Reminder that we are not your personal army you massive faggot.

>> No.22816281

>>22816262
fuckoff chink

>> No.22816292

>>22816214
lol it's pointless, I don't even want to talk about them all that much here since I don't want to get recommended of them like I did with namibia deers. Plus, the report system doesn't have bots report in there.

>> No.22816293

>>22816074
And keep in mind the NijiEN is a multi-PoV collab so the poll engagement should be higher with people switching views.

>> No.22816298

>>22816214
Not your personal army, fuck off

>> No.22816303
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22816303

last one since i already lost interest

>> No.22816305

>>22816214
The bot thing is just a theory until someone actually buys bot views for a livestream and shows us the graph.

>> No.22816310

>>22816214
YT can't do shit about it, especially when posters here doesn't even have substansial evidence

>> No.22816315

>>22816214
Knowing Youtube, their solution would be removing viewer count.

>> No.22816317

>>22816214
Most of the people here just observe shit, while the chink fujos have the guts and disposable income to artificially pump their manwhores up.

>> No.22816328

>>22816214
>Not your personal army
If you feel so inclined, not here. Faggot.

>> No.22816350

>>22816043
>Why does he start his streams so late
terrible sleep schedule. doing a lot of 10+ hour Elden Ring streams and then Apex grind right after didn't really help with that too

>> No.22816357

>>22816003
They probably use different accounts for subbing and botting streams since there's a high chance the stream ones would get banned. Also it's likely when you buy them the services aren't inclusive, you pay for one activity such as VOD increase, livestream CCV, or subcount.

>> No.22816359

>>22816281
you wish, why the fuck would you want to drop to their level to patheticness

>> No.22816363

Chama pretending(?) to forgot closing her stream

>> No.22816375

>>22816303
Sometimes your viewers are new to the site. Tell them to create a google account and experience youtube's full feature. It's Free!

>> No.22816376
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22816376

Project Wingman at the 12 hour mark now. If you’re curious, OW part 2 had 362k views in 12 hours. What a weird time where a VOD with 12k avg ccv is hitting this number. Just insanely high.

>> No.22816398

>>22816310
So what ? wait until Vox suddenly get 100k on a fucking birthday party out of knowhere?? Chink wants to aim that

>> No.22816405

>>22816041
Impressively bad, maybe management will tell them they shouldn't do polls when they have high numbers.

>> No.22816427

>>22816018
Just call it Chink bots.

>> No.22816435

>>22816271
Yes, I was definitely joking. I've read the same reply every time someone complains about the vote percentages that I'm riffing on it.

>> No.22816438

>>22814906
>not a single gold this entire month
OH NO NO NO NO NO NIJIBROS

>> No.22816456

>>22815868
i wonder, can you actually play shit like zuma, bejeweled, feeding frenzy, bookworm adventures, and dynomite now?
think there was also that one waiter food delivery game with the blue apron girl
shit's getting me nostalgic

>> No.22816465

>>22816435
Lying is not joking, nice try nijinigger

>> No.22816467

>>22816214
Yeah now go run to post this in the Niji En thread and tell them # is plotting against them.

>> No.22816470

>>22816398
Even then you won't have substansial evidence. YT doesn't recognize ccv recorded by 3rd party and they don't publish recorded ccv over time to the public

>> No.22816474

>>22816435
Sorry it's really hard to read the sarcasm off that post.

>> No.22816479

>>22816427
>Just call it Chink bots.
But it's accurate to call them view farms

>> No.22816499

>>22816435
well don't do that, you're just giving actual shitposters cover to do thier thing

>> No.22816518

>>22816465
Jesus, even ESL like me can detect the sarcasm in that post

>> No.22816528

I don't why but know I feel EN gold is worthless know if they just doing bots/vpn the entire month. thats. I was supossed to be funny and if they win gold yeah cool but not like this.

>> No.22816551

>>22816528
>now

>> No.22816555

>>22816528
No one really takes the EN tally seriously anon
Only global gold matters

>> No.22816559
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22816559

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>47,244: Miko (Hololive)
>37,789: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>28,401: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,724: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,357: Toya (Nijisanji)
>18,436: Shu (Nijisanji)
>14,952: Botan (Hololive)
>14,772: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>13,328: Gura (Hololive)
>13,021: Reid (Neo Porte)
>12,333: Mito (Hololive)
>12,279: Kiara (Hololive)
>12,052: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,493: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,077: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,019: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,712: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,566: Tamaki (NoriPro)

>> No.22816562

>>22816474
"3000 people came in, voted, and then left" is such an unrealistic statement that I assumed it was obvious I was joking. That is in no way normal human behaviour

>> No.22816563

>>22816479
Welcome to the rice view mother fucker

>> No.22816576

>>22816528
>now
Paralympic gold has never been not worthless.

>> No.22816583

>>22815722
43k

>> No.22816598

>>22816376
Is there a flight simulator community or something that might have caught onto this?

>> No.22816603

>>22816528
>was supossed to be funny
>EN "gold"
More like "supposed to be cope"

>> No.22816606

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>37,789: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>28,401: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,724: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,357: Toya (Nijisanji)
>18,436: Shu (Nijisanji)
>14,952: Botan (Hololive)
>14,772: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>13,328: Gura (Hololive)
>13,021: Reid (Neo Porte)
>12,333: Mito (Hololive)
>12,279: Kiara (Hololive)
>12,052: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,493: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,077: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,019: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,712: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>10,566: Tamaki (NoriPro)

>> No.22816608

>>22816555
So what happens when one of these botted streams wins global gold? Vox's birthday is coming up and I'm expecting no less than 50k ccv

>> No.22816609

>>22816559
I FUCKING TOLD YOU GUYS THAT SLIPKOCHI IS JUST A MYTH. MIGO WILL NOT SLIP

>> No.22816617

>>22816559
>>18,436: Shu (Nijisanji)
eliminate their fucking bots he doesn't deserve be there

>> No.22816629

>>22816518
>yes, if we turn that reply into a ritual post we'll be able to dismiss any discussion involving poll numbers out of hand! Great job fellow nijibros!
Piss off

>> No.22816633

>>22816528
>EN gold is worthless know

>> No.22816646

>>22816559
So, what are the chances that NijiJP will not win any gold for this month and Vox takes it in the 25th?

>> No.22816683

>>22816518
Autistic people having a hard time detecting sarcasm and or non-literal speech. Not even a joke, a lot of people here genuinely do have a hard time understanding that kind of thing, and ESL status makes it even harder. Of course people also pretend to be stupid because they think it's funny so it's hard to tell.

>> No.22816684

>>22816562
You know that thing about how no matter how ridiculous a position is, there'll be someone on the Internet who genuinely believes it?
Yeah, that's affecting you now.

>> No.22816692

>>22816559
Migo, why? Why do you choose today of all days to not live up to your Slip Queen title? We could've had at least a week worthy of jokes had Nipple Lord won gold tonight.

>> No.22816694

>>22815667
I know everyone hates /#/ but I honestly had some good convo's of trends and inclines/reclines here but nowadays good days are bots and bad days are culls.
Not sure what's the point of a number discussion anymore.

>> No.22816701

>>22816646
I will buy gura enough bots to make her win on the 25th.

>> No.22816710

>>22816608
I don't really care since we don't have any concrete proof of botting, but most of the anon probably won't kneel/congratulate him

>> No.22816712
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22816712

>>22816559
For once this pic is on topic

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22816716

>>22816646
0%, since Kuzuha already won on the 12th

>> No.22816718

>>22816470
Then how YT canceled channels that was confirmed chink bots and using vpn then

>> No.22816724

>>22816559
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,-464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,461 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,033 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,729 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,697 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,412 - Shiraken Human fall flat

> PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
2x: Okayu
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko

>> No.22816725

>>22816528
Won't just be the EN gold for long anon.
Aquapex may have saved us from them a week ago, she might not be there come the 25th

Tally anon should clarify whether he's going to record whatever YT API is showing atm despite any suspicions of anything (which is fair), or is he's going to make exceptions based on abritrary shit.
As long as it is clear cut and fair, I can go along with him

>> No.22816735
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22816735

>>22816559
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,512 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,461 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,033 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,729 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,697 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,244 - Shiraken collab

> PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte
1x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Okayu
1x: Calli, Korone, Kuzuha, Miko, Subaru

>> No.22816745

>>22816555
They almost won a gold. If they start doing it regularly it kind of defeats the point of this thread. I think at that point we'll just have to exclude them altogether and ignore trolls that try to bring them up. Not at that point, yet.

>> No.22816754

>>22816646
>So, what are the chances that NijiJP will not win any gold for this month and Vox takes it in the 25th?
Tell their cheap ass JP fans to buy some view farms like the zhang fujos do. What are they? Poor?

>> No.22816759

>>22816041
>>22816074
Makes you really think does it

>> No.22816763

>>22816608
It gets put in the tally, we shitpost about it for a day or two, then move on. What else?

>> No.22816770

>>22816528
It's always been worthless, not even for the chink bots, but also the different cull rates

>> No.22816775 [DELETED] 

>>22816559
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte)/Kuzuha (Nijisanji) TIE - 36,-464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,461 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,033 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,729 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,697 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,412 - Shiraken Human fall flat

> PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
3.5x: Hal
2x: Okayu
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko
0.5: Kuzuha

>> No.22816780

>>22816559
>>22816735
Thanks anon, appreciate the good work every day

>> No.22816803
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22816803

Still can't get full engagement after half a fucking hour.

>> No.22816810

It's been 33 minutes and he still hasn't cleared it btw.

>> No.22816818

>>22816724
>>22816735
>>22816775
JFC, make up your damn mind already!
I better not see this shit on May

>> No.22816820

>>22816725
Then how YT canceled channels with bots then?

>> No.22816858

>>22816735
KING could have had 2 gold if he streamed yesterday.

>> No.22816872

>>22816818
> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
3x: Hal
2x: Okayu
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko
1: Kuzuhal

>> No.22816874

>>22816818
Top and bottom are hijackers anon

>> No.22816876

>>22816818
Guess which one got deleted?
That's the false one.

>> No.22816885

>>22815273
jesas

>> No.22816884

>>22816754
Anycolor only buys viewfarms for big events where they got sponsored like koshien

>> No.22816886

>>22816528
EN Gold used to be an amusement but the fake NippleEN views and horrible HoloEN cull makes it an embarrassment now. None of it matters because none of it is accurate.

>> No.22816889

>>22816608
As long as the graph looks at least slightly believable it's fine. If it's another random large increases every 5-10 minutes with everything else being flat/decline then fuck that, it'll be disqualified.

>> No.22816896

What haachama just did is beyond anything vox or any niji could ever do, numbers aside why don't people call her out for being a whore more? When vox gets worse treatment? This stream is the kind you pay for on Twitter 50 bucks for 10 minutes

>> No.22816902
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22816902

>>22816598
No it quite literally has been overwhelmingly strong at all stages of the processing. I mean, 300k in 3 hours is just OUTSTANDING. We were discussing earlier where the vod would end up by 8-12 hours and many said 280-300k. So it’s definitely overperformed. I mean, all Gura vods overperform, but this is blatant.

>> No.22816904

>>22816803
Guess NijiEN just doesn't have a very engaged fanbase (Fuck you Susan).

>> No.22816914

>>22816810
>>22816803
Reminder that Fauna had the poll up for 30 mins and ended with 25k participation while having 8k ccv.

>> No.22816915
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22816915

>>22816559
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,-464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,461 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,033 - VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,729 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,697 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,412 - Shiraken Human fall flat

> PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
2x: Okayu
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone, Miko

>> No.22816921

>>22816818
Nijisanji has not won a single gold this month
Any claims to the contrary are nijinigger lies and should be treated accordingly

>> No.22816923

>>22816872
>>22816775
>>22816735
just make the half gold come true, and under per streamer. Add 0.5 for both hal and Kuzuha.

>> No.22816925

>>22816803
I hope someone is saving these

>> No.22816926

>>22816896
nigga vox has his drinking asmr stream age restricted for a reason

>> No.22816944

>>22816716
Yeah you'd like that wouldn't you, nijinigger?

>> No.22816956
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22816956

>>22816818
Ignore the schizo who wants to change the original result
>>/vt/thread/S22298751#p22304309

>> No.22816963

>>22816915
Begone, usurper. Your falsehoods hold no sway here.

>> No.22816968

>>22816923
>negotiating with a NijiEN faggot
Fuck off

>> No.22817000

>>22816896
Did she do any ear licking? thats the yab line for holo asmr usually (they xam do on rommate anyway)

>> No.22817004

>>22816923
The truth does not change because of the whining of retards, and compromising so we have a list that's objectively wrong on all counts is pure retardation

>> No.22817006

>>22816956
what kind of mental illness is this

>> No.22817007

>>22816902
What was her normal average VOD anyway, if 300k is overperforming, isnt her usual too low?

>> No.22817018

>>22815868
When will someone play Bloon Tower defense on stream dammit... This franchise is kino and the levels+ sound designs are great as well.

>> No.22817021

>>22816956
>Isreal
Holy mother of schizos

>> No.22817041

>>22816646
I'm expecting at least 100k ccvs on the 25th. I'll laugh and start botting Petra to the point that she could easily win EN paralympics for the whole month

>> No.22817049

>>22816889
It doesn't work that way, anon. Numbers are numbers, botted or not. It's not as if they're gonna take monthly gold or overall gold anyway, so why bother?

>> No.22817058

>Kuzuschizo shitting up daily tally
>NijiEN suspecting in bot farming view
>Kobo being Kobo
Maybe I should stay away from /#/ for a few days

>> No.22817074
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22817074

>>22816818
Just look at this pic and you'll know which list is the truth and which list is a nijinigger fabrication meant to cover the fact that they've been utterly humiliated this month

>> No.22817085

>>22816896
Man you people really don't really watch streams because Holos are talking about lewd shit all the time.

>> No.22817087

After 40 mins, the poll has finally reached the CCV

>> No.22817095

>>22817049
>Numbers are numbers, botted or not
you again?

>> No.22817099

So Kanatas's return stream is already at 1,246,957 yen in SC with 19 hours to go

>> No.22817107

>>22816902
Anyone who paid attention to Gura's uniform drop in CCV at the beginning of 2022 would have been able to tell that she was culled. It's just getting way more blatant in recent weeks.

>> No.22817122

>>22816956
>"gaslight"
>"comfortable"
Yeah, dead giveaway.

>> No.22817138

>>22816896
>why don't people call her out for being a whore more
I don't think there's that many who gives a shit about Haachama left in this thread after all the bullshit she pulled in the last year. Maybe a couple of Haatons, but that's it.

>> No.22817144

>>22817021
>>22817006
>Saying the truth is schizo
The absolute state of nijiniggers

>> No.22817150

>>22816956
>25+ deleted posts
I pity the regulars here that have to deal with these sort of mental illness
t. tourist

>> No.22817153

Is 5k Emperor normal CCV?

>> No.22817154
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22817154

He did it!

>> No.22817179

>>22816896
Proof next thread?

>> No.22817186

>>22817154
about time holy shit

>> No.22817187

>>22816926
Nigga she made it members only, if it stayed it would've gotten age restricted within a few hours, I'm gonna tell you right now I watch every singke box asmr and NONE of them gets even slightly close to what haachama has just done.
>>22817000
Ear licking? She did a full on mistress play without any "maybes" or "what ifs" and ended up with a cum countdown.
She usually does it in a way that could be interpreted as something else but this time it was as straight as a fucking arrow and finished up with saying "I want to be tied up and bullied too"

>> No.22817188

>>22816896
>What haachama just did is beyond anything vox
You and I must have heard different ASMR because it doesn't come even close to either graphic or what even Okayu does (let alone Noel or Mel or Choco).
Are you sure you didn't just threadread?

>> No.22817191

>>22816608
People shitpost, name-call for a few days then move on to the next event. These gold don't really matter outside of this thread, no one bet any money on them or get anything by wining them. You can go on Twitter or any platform and show all your theory but unless you have concrete proof on Vox stream being bot then no one with power to do anything would take you seriously.

>> No.22817198

>>22817007
300k is below her usual final VOD but it's kind of high for for like 15 hours out?

>> No.22817205

>>22817154
>40 minutes

>> No.22817213

>>22817154
His like hasn't catch up though

>> No.22817225

>>22815985
I posted a stream from a french YouTuber a few months ago who had nearly 50% of the participations within 50 minutes or some shit like that, I don't remember. It was pretty low though.

>> No.22817230

>>22817154
Now he just need 6k votes more to get the same % engagement Fauna got in 10 minutes.

>> No.22817232

>>22817007
Well, let me clarify. Because we know where VODs typically end up in Hololive, depending on the talents themselves and the viewership they get, when I say “overperform” I mean literally, no matter how bad a Gura vod is, it overperforms because there’s no single Holo in the history of Holos who can hit her vod numbers relative to her ccv. Even the bad fortnite collab still processed 240k or so the first day despite averaging like 11k ccv. That’s what I mean by “overperforming”

>> No.22817248

>>22817154
His peak was in the 18k tho anon

>> No.22817253

>>22817187
Proof next thread?

>> No.22817257

>>22817154
Jesus Christ, 40 minutes, a Holo would be at like double CCV at that point.

>> No.22817262

>>22817074
You this guy here >>22816956 ?
Are you for real bro?

>> No.22817276

>>22817107
I feel even more weir than even her subs starting april. Last year was almost the same until late may and then the big jump after her birthday. Is this shit happpening to her again?

>> No.22817288

>>22817248
But the poll started when he was at 14,5k or so and he didn't get higher since then

>> No.22817295
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22817295

How can we save Nautilus bros ...

>> No.22817297

>>22816956
Holy shit, I don't know what this guy is even saying but I'm 100% sure the opposite of it must be the truth

>> No.22817302

>>22817187
Make a short clip and I'll judge the veracity of that claim.

>> No.22817312

>>22817262
nijiniggers hijack the daily tally to spout their lies and somehow I am the schizo
The absolute state of this thread

>> No.22817314

>>22817225
Vtubers in general seem to have very high engagement vs normal streamers. I think that's just the nature of the vtubing audience.

>> No.22817336

>>22817187
kek, anon, is this your very first Haachama ASMR?

>> No.22817355

>>22817295
It's a stream of a mollusk? How are 700 people watching?

>> No.22817360

>>22817232
Noel ASMR get 1-2m with 14k peak though.

>> No.22817367

>>22817095
Me again what? I literally jwu and that was my second post.

>> No.22817373

So is all this talk about bots and view farms just flexing or are the tally anons actually going to do something and remove NijiEN from the daily tallys?

>> No.22817392

>>22813900
It's a surprisingly robust system, because downvoted comments are just displayed as "downvoted" and don't get pushed downwards or hidden, so there's no censorship.
But it's also anonymous, so you can samefag to your heart's content and shitpost without any issues.
The upvote system also allows you to gauge the general IQ of a thread, i.e. if people upvote an obvious samefag, the thread is retarded.
With some tweaking (only actual posters should be able to upvote/downvote) this could honestly be a fun feature for this very site.

>> No.22817394

>>22817188
Noel csnr even do a cum countdown, are we sure YOU'RE not the threadreader here? The only thing that could MAYBE come close to what I fucking witnessed today was okayu saying "you can explode now" some time ago but even that asnt as straight forward
This truly is the shitty hololive board, if any of the vshojo girls EVER do anything that's even remotely similar to what haachama has done, they'd get shit for fucking weeks

>> No.22817395

>>22817312
What did you expect from nijiniggers? >>22817336

>> No.22817402

>>22817099
Helmin have an incurable desire to throw money at Kanatan and didn't have recourse for multiple months.

>> No.22817403

>>22817312
>Israel
Holy shit, how are you not banned from ban evading?

>> No.22817420

>>22817187
Shit's in Japanese so w/e, lemme know when an EN streamer does it.

>> No.22817428

>>22817394
Proof next thread?

>> No.22817432

>>22817403
Is this your first day on 4chan or something?

>> No.22817450

>>22816694
Then wait for the end of the month. Daily, even weekly, numbers are still just horse racing. Hal, and Aqua's Apex week is just not normal. Once the monthly comes in then trends can be better understood with better discussion.

>> No.22817456

>>22817312
>nijiniggers hijack the daily tally
Not that it matters but the daily tally of that day has Kuzuha ahead: >>22304309
>>/vt/thread/S22298751#p22304309

It makes no difference to what you guys are saying tho but "hijacking the daily tally" doesn't seem to be happening when the tally had Kuzuha in the first position.
Now carry on whatever you guys are discussing, as it doesn't seem to make any difference to anything

>> No.22817459

>>22817154
>He did it!
Doesn't count until he matches his peak CCV

>> No.22817469

>>22817394
This is the hololive board, don't you forget it

>> No.22817470

>>22817373
Nothing will happen unless we got blatant views of botting and concrete evidence.

We know that it's being botted, but there's nothing we can do

>> No.22817485

>>22816956
It's still funny to me how the schizo accuses anyone who doesn't share hus view as Nijinigger, except what he's doing is literally Nijinigger behaviour.

>> No.22817491

>>22817297
He derailed a decent convo about Uki, Gura, and Towa's numbers and shat up the thread with his sperging. Fuck him forever for that

>> No.22817500

>>22817314
Well yeah, not to say some of their cull isn't real but vtuber like those from Holo are more parasocial which results in a more engaging viewer base.

>> No.22817515

>>22817360
Asmr isn't pulling unprocessed views by the hundreds of thousands, Noels or not, it's designed to be repeated
Tldr:people are actually coming back to noel asmr. Most stream VOD views are from the stream, but not for those vods
The closest gura equivalent would be her duolingo stream

>> No.22817516

>>22817373
Just depends, it's sporadic now. Wait until they win a global gold or go over 100k or something then you might see a change. or maybe we'll wait until Yugo playing Genshin beats Coco's graduation.

>> No.22817523

>>22817470
I wasn't talking about youtube. I was talking about the people who do the daily tallys (Gold, EN Gold, etc.) removing them from the daily tallys.

>> No.22817534
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22817534

>>22817456
and having Kuzuha be in that spot in the first place is retarded when you have proof staring at you right in the face that Hal got higher than Kuzuha that day

>> No.22817536

>>22817456
Thanks for the context anon

>> No.22817541

>>22817420
Never, not in a million years any of the ENs girls would EVER do anything like that.
I'm going to jeed a couple days break from this board man, the double standards are fucking bullshit

>> No.22817544
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22817544

>>22817007
300k is on par for her average stream, he just mentioning how PW got 300k in just 3 hours which is what making it overperforming. By the end of the week I could see this video reaching around 400~450k which is great for a non special event. (Does this count as special since technically this was her first time using her 3d model despite only showing the back of her head??) It was also a fairly good stream with a lot of clippable moments so I can see it having long legs.

>> No.22817551

>>22816694
It just gets extra toxic here every time Luxiem has a big stream, because some people can't accept that Luxiem is pretty darn strong now and can pull some big numbers.
I mean, Vox has more subs than most of Council now so it's not like we're back in mid-2021 comparing Selen with 100k subs with Ame with 1 mil subs.
In their best timeslot, they pull just as good a number as most of HoloEN. Gura is just an anomaly in every sense.

I think a lot of newfags got into numbers because they want to get tribal and watch Holos kick Niji's ass, and they still do most of the time, but it's not fun anymore when they get kicked back on some days.

>> No.22817557

>>22817314
Luxiem viewers are supposed to be ultra passionate though.

>> No.22817562

>>22817541
Hololive board, seethe about it

>> No.22817585

>>22817523
No precedence so I doubt tally anon would remove them

>> No.22817597

>>22817485
anon...
>>/vt/thread/S19647782#p19652644 - all the posts linked there were the same banned ip

>> No.22817598

>>22817523
That's up to their discretion, but they will get shit on no matter what they do.

Sorry if that happen, tally anon

>> No.22817604

>>22817551
Go back to your dox site.

>> No.22817656

>>22817598
Their viewership is literally fake. They should 100% be removed.

>> No.22817674

>>22817360
Asmr is videos people constantly go back to and watch/hear again, they are designs to have long legs. Go look how well Fauna ASMR videos does compare to her regular let's play. It's night and day.

>> No.22817686

>>22817598
why apologize? He knew exactly what he signed up for, especially after he made the absolutely boneheaded decision to give Kuzuha the gold on the 12th despite flawed record knowing that it would give Nijisanji their first and possibly only gold of the month

>> No.22817687

>>22817604
Been here since before Coco graduated, newfag.
Cry more about bots, but find some actual proof before you shit up the thread more.

>> No.22817692

>>22817491
He does that everytime there's suspicion of nijiEN botting.
It's not hard to determine where his allegiance are, especially when the usual shitposters wouldn't go nearly this far.

>> No.22817694

>>22817551
Anon ever fucking since Sonny's karaoke most of the boys had very suspect graphs for events. You didn't see anyone bitch about Elira or Selen's karaoke(except the Hurr she had men on stream shitposters) because everything looked normal. It's not the same for the boys at all.

>> No.22817697

Eyy, it's Hikakin's birthday!

>> No.22817700

>>22817394
Anon, Haachama does this exact type of playful ASMR since forever. One of them, in the middle of the schizo arc, had Haato wake up all covered with sticky stuff and Haachama blaming the viewer for it, for spilling her body lotion all over her twin sister while she was sleeping.

All sorts of schizocoomers take that in the literal "WOW, SHE'S ALLUDING TO PORN STUFF" when the majority of people listening to it have a good belly laugh at her playing with scenarios.

I don't blame you if you want to whip your dick out and fap but not everybody has a coomer mind like that.
It is different from Vox taking a request to treat a listener rough and say outright
https://youtu.be/SWHsUFf2VE4?t=8043
>I'm going to buy you and put you in my house and use you as I please
and similar stuff.

>> No.22817704

Ok I found a place that sells youtube live views for around $1 per thousand. I guess I should test it on one of the NijiEN or NijiID girls so we can get a good graph.

>> No.22817711

>>22817551
Imagine being this serious of a paralympic gold

>> No.22817718

>>22817551
It gets extra toxic because they're clearly botting and there's plenty of proof of it but faggots like you keep denying reality.

>> No.22817728

>>22817551
1. Go back to your Doxsite
2. Luxiems viewers aren't actually viewers. This thread kind of proved that their viewership is largely botted

>> No.22817731

>>22817551
And if they could do it without their graphs looking botted to all hell, there'd be no issue, but unfortunatley Luxiem isn't as strong as you think.

>> No.22817740

>>22817534
I'm not entering that debate anon, just making clear that there is no "tally hijacking" because the tally had Kuzuha as first.

>> No.22817749

>>22817656
>>22817686
>Leave it be
>Accused of being nijinigger
>Remove it
>Accused of being holobrony
They can't win...

>> No.22817774

>>22817597
>Nijiniggers falseflagging and samefagging while accusing other people as Nijiniggers
Kek, like pottery.

>> No.22817777

>>22814114
> 12am on the dot
yeah this was probably scheduled in advance for her original return stream
someone should let them know kek

>> No.22817780
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>> No.22817801

>>22817704
Test it on one of the 2views that's on vrabi, a Niji ID or a Noripro would be your best bet

>> No.22817827

>>22817686
>He shouldn't give the gold because the company I don't like will get their first gold of the month
Why are people like this?

>> No.22817840

>>22817704
Pick that 2view NijiID guy.

>> No.22817852

>>22817780
get used to it, this shit will keep happening until the end of April. And you better hope Nijisanji wins another gold this month otherwise holofags are going to want to lord it over nijifags as the month nijisanji failed to win a single gold and this debate will literally never end

>> No.22817853

>>22817704
Why would you test it on someone who can get hurt by it instead of a throwaway channel?

>> No.22817854

>>22817749
Then be consistent, which he was.

>> No.22817870

>>22817686
>absolutely boneheaded decision
Except he used the same method that gave Pekora gold over KING on a previous tally. That's not bein boneheaded, that's just him sticking to his rules.

>> No.22817881

>>22817827
see >>22817534

>> No.22817896
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22817896

* EN TALLY OF THE DAY *

>18,409: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji)
>13,342: Gawr Gura (Hololive)
>12,305: Takanashi Kiara (Hololive)
>11,064: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji)
>10,701: Mysta Rias (Nijisanji)
>9,200: Ike Eveland (Nijisanji)
>8,422: Luca Kaneshiro (Nijisanji)
>7,849: Ninomae Ina'nis (Hololive)
>7,729: Mori Calliope (Hololive)
>7,090: Ceres Fauna (Hololive)
>6,870: IRyS (Hololive)
>6,431: Alban Knox (Nijisanji)
>6,183: Ouro Kronii (Hololive)
>5,882: Fulgur Ovid (Nijisanji)
>5,710: Uki Violeta (Nijisanji)
>5,342: Ike Eveland (Nijisanji)

>> No.22817898

>>22817827
The gold on the 12th isn't that black and white and you know it. He could have easily given the gold to HAL and his decision would have been just as valid since HAL has a very strong claim to that gold.

He chose to give it to Kuzuha. That is a decision that he made.

>> No.22817926

>>22817394
>>22817700
More on that, in the same video, 2:13:49
https://youtu.be/SWHsUFf2VE4 [Embed]
Vox saying he got hard thinking about buying his listener and pulling her hair.

You can't possibly even imply Haachama or any of the public ASMR of any of the girls comes close to this. To be close it could have to be overt like

>Yeah, I'll choke you half to death then pull and twist your nipples

>> No.22817942

>>22817896
this should be renamed the EN/CN tally

>> No.22817947

It only takes for that anon scraper to get numbers out of the chat speed from luxiem and compare it to one of the HoloENs with similar stream length and average ccv then prove once and for all, that Luxiem/Noctyx are botted. Because for viewfarms, it only takes one click of a link for all of them to go into the waiting room of a stream.

>> No.22817953

>>22817896
>Imposter EN Tally guy can't even get the format right
Fuck off Nijinigger

>> No.22817954

>>22817704
If it's not rated per measure of time you're either buying 30 seconds vod views fulfilled within indeterminate hours after order or you're being scammed.

>> No.22817957

>>22817551
I'm a Niji JP guy and yeah the thread has gotten more tribal even to harmless JP livers but I have to admit the EN boys numbers have been weird as shit, the fucked up graphs, peaks that seem massively suspect compared to normal buff streams, Vox massively outpacing everyone's sub growth while having lower CCV than Mysta, I really don't want to suspect foul play going on but it's getting harder and harder not to

>> No.22817973

>>22817870
The difference is that win did not give Hololive their sole gold of the entire month, this is basically the trump election thing all over again where Kuzuha "technically" won but there's enough grey area to sow doubt and if this is anything like that it'll get talked about until the end of time

>> No.22818008

>>22817870
kek no he didnt schizo. He used holostats for pekora and mado for kuzuha, he didnt do a shitty live-ranking vs holostats

>> No.22818015

>>22817827
Nijiniggers brought this on themselves when they refused to contemplate sharing the gold and giving it to both of them. They deserve what they get now.

>> No.22818016

>>22817711
Never cared about daily gold, consistency is more important than one-off streams so the monthly numbers at the end are what I care about.
It's pretty obvious that eventho Mysta, Vox and Luca got huge numbers for their karaokes, they didn't incline much at all so nothing really changed.

>>22817718
>>22817728
>>22817731
Keep crying about bots, you guys just sound like sore losers.

>> No.22818025

>>22817898
>very strong claim
Only Vstat had him with higher peak. That wasn't very strong at all.

>> No.22818028
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>>22817459
Well he couldn't get his peak after nearly an hour.

>> No.22818038

>>22814531
I keep wondering about the "academy" idea of VTA.
V-Sen seems to be attempting it (after VTA stopped), with allowing people with zero experience to get used to streaming to an audience.
But that's mainly due to Ruri-nee's involvement and having some pre-existing audience.

Ranunculus streams on the other hand were an absolute disaster.

Would you watch new 2view chuuba streams with 50% technical issues trying to get used to streaming?

>> No.22818056
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>>22817954
There are a bunch of options. It does seem kind of like a scam site, but they had decent reviews on some blackhat site.

>> No.22818060

>>22817898
It has precedence on the 8th October of 2021 retard

>> No.22818075

>>22818016
You sound like a sore bot, chang.

>> No.22818083

I missed the days when Vnuma was still around and the daily tally was just a screenshot of vnuma because at least it didn't leave any room for finagling like this shit

>> No.22818092
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22818092

>>22814906
*sigh*
every fucking time

>> No.22818103

>>22818016
nice wavy graphs you got there ching

>> No.22818107

>>22818008
The method, you retard. The METHOD. It doesn't matter which sites he used because the method stays the same.

>> No.22818110

>>22817598
>Sorry if that happen, tally anon
>>22817686
>why apologize? He knew exactly what he signed up for

Everyday I do the same thing
>open live-ranking at https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking
>delete the non vtuber from the list
>fix any peak that would change a position with the highest of mado, holostats, vrabi, vstats
>screencap, crop the pic
>copy the text
>paste text and pic to this thread
That's it, I have no plans to change, take no offense on any comment, have no stake on who got to which position and for the most part I don't even read about it except to check the lewds when there is lewdposting.

Think of it as "occupational therapy"; like cutting discount coupons from the daily paper or doing the crosswords

>> No.22818114
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22818114

>>22816606

>> No.22818124

>>22817896
We should put luxiem and noctyx on BOT/VPN GOLD from now on

>> No.22818139
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>>22818092
and once more because it still has yet to sink in

>> No.22818169

>>22818110
yeah I hope you fucking kill yourself
Not that we need you these days with vstats basically doing what vnuma does

>> No.22818185

>>22818056
why are there so many options, what's the differences?

>> No.22818186

>>22818110
I love you already anon, so based

>> No.22818187

>>22817957
>Vox massively outpacing everyone's sub growth while having lower CCV than Mysta
Vox not being able to break 600k with his endurance stream was a big red flag. With his sub growth pace, that should have been an easy thing to do.

>> No.22818192

>>22818092
So out of the 2 sites that tracked both of them in your picture, HAL had the highest peak. You had to go to a 3rd site, which doesn't track HAL, to confirm your bias instead of just giving the gold to HAL?

I'm calling bullshit on your part. Give the gold on the 12th to HAL.

>> No.22818199

>>22818110
o7

>> No.22818211

>>22817896
>>22817942
>>22817953
>>22818124
>>22817942
>>22817953
>>22817896
Pretty meaty day today for EN vtubers with 16(!) people entering the tally.
10K is not enough for a top 5 placement.

Nijisanji with 9 placements.
Hololive with 7 placements.
Nijisanji won gold.
5-5 for top 10.

Very good day for Nijisanji EN and it seems they are continuing their incline.

>> No.22818218

>>22818110
I feel you, man. Imagine a schizo trying to hijack what you've been doing for months and months on end just because he's a Rindou fan who got cucked by KING.

>> No.22818234

>>22817896
Fake EN Gold poster

>> No.22818261

Reminder that no one argued Mysta'd karaoke because his graph looked fucking normal.

>> No.22818263

>>22818110
God I hope you fucking die

>> No.22818278
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>>22817896
>* THE REAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY *

>>13,342: Gawr Gura (Hololive)
>>12,305: Takanashi Kiara (Hololive)
>>7,849: Ninomae Ina'nis (Hololive)
>>7,729: Mori Calliope (Hololive)
>>7,090: Ceres Fauna (Hololive)
>>6,870: IRyS (Hololive)
>>6,183: Ouro Kronii (Hololive)

BOT GOLD
* THE MOS BOT BY CHINKS OF THE DAY *

>18,409: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji)
>11,064: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji)
>10,701: Mysta Rias (Nijisanji)
>9,200: Ike Eveland (Nijisanji)
>8,422: Luca Kaneshiro (Nijisanji)
>6,431: Alban Knox (Nijisanji)
>5,882: Fulgur Ovid (Nijisanji)
>5,710: Uki Violeta (Nijisanji)
>5,342: Ike Eveland (Nijisanji)

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>>22816915

>> No.22818297
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>>22818169
>>22818083
this guy makes a good point, why don't we just go back to the good old days when the daily tally is just a screenshot of a website? Vstats basically does everything vnuma did back in the day and it'd prevent shit like this from happening

>> No.22818309

It's been 8 days and you're still spamming the thread with this shit, I will force-feed you enough meds for you to overdose on and do the world a favour

>> No.22818313

>>22818211
>Very good day for Nijisanji EN
If you remove the bots and look at their actual viewership it is not a good day for them.

>> No.22818319

>>22818218
>Rindou fan who got cucked by KING
You know I've been wondering what could cause a man to sperg this hard against KING getting a measly one gold but this is a pretty believable reason.

>> No.22818321

>>22818278
>Can't even do it right
Sigh~

>> No.22818328

>>22818056
this very likely much shittier than the bots the cryptoscams and fujos use. it could get your 2view banned or shadowbanned. If you're really going to be retarded enough to try it, do so in your own throwaway account.

>> No.22818331

>>22818218
Oh look it's the "Stating the truth means he's a kuzuha anti" nigger again, how cute

>> No.22818343

>>22818278
Now were talking, this is how it should be done from now on

>> No.22818370

>>22818211
Oh look chink fujo is back after botting.

>> No.22818375

>>22818261
>Reminder that no one argued Mysta'd karaoke because his graph looked fucking normal.
The first one? Yeah, we just attributed that to 1st time buff and moved on.

>> No.22818389

>NIJISANJI JP continues their recline with ZERO golds during April.
>NIJISANJI EN continues their incline with 7 EN golds during April.

>Golds:
Hololive JP: 20
Nijisanji JP: 0

>EN golds:
Hololive EN: 13
Nijisanji EN: 7

I wonder what the japs at 5ch think about their failure of a branch.
Kuzuha, Kanae, Mito, Ange, Lize, Toya and all the other jap failures are getting humiliated by Hololive JP.

At the other hand, Nijisanji EN is fighting back against Hololive EN and even though they are not at the same level yet it seems they have been inclining.

I wish Riku and the rest of the jap fucks support Nijisanji EN more if they want to save their dying company.

>> No.22818403

>>22818192
Rule of the game is highest recorded peak regardless of website.
Else you won't even have a chart when vstats or liveranking dies or drop/missed some streams anon. And vstats JP anon already shown he might had financial issues when he only tracked holo_data

>> No.22818404

>>22818297
Because every number sites has different refresh rates (not to mention Vstat being longer than Vrabi) so sooner or later there'll be another schizo who disagrees with the result.

>> No.22818420

>>22818321
Yeah sorry

>> No.22818447

>>22818192
Typical tally procedure here is as follows -

> numbers should be from the same site, as long as the chuuba placement is not contested.
> if placement is contested, highest peak from across all tracked sites is used and positions changed accordingly.

Tally anon tried to be "fair" by just including the live-ranking tally which had both of them (and Kuzuha higher) instead of just using the VRabi peak for Kuzuha and vstats for HAL, which is what spawned this retarded timeloop in the first place.

>> No.22818467

>>22818110
Based

>> No.22818472

>>22818309
The truth will not be cowed into submission, and as long as the fake tally anon continue to ply his lies in the holy numbers thread the truth will yearn to break free

>> No.22818471

>>22818389
>>EN golds:
>Hololive EN: 20
>Nijisanji EN: 0
fixed, bots won't be accepted anymore

>> No.22818473

>>22818107
you are a literal retard

>> No.22818475

>>22818261
Yeah and despite having a lower average CCV Vox got nearly twice as many viewers for his, really gets the old noggin joggin'

>> No.22818477

>>22818278
>>22818343
>>22818370
>>22818313
kek
can't even make their fake EN tally right
all this cope

it's so amusing, really

>> No.22818482

>>22818389
Hmm this post seem familiar word for word

>> No.22818483

>>22818110
Appreciate the good work anon

>> No.22818485

>>22817957
>EN boys numbers have been weird as shit, the fucked up graphs, peaks that seem massively suspect compared to normal buff streams
I get you, my theory is VPN fuckery, because we know most of their audience can't watch their streams in normal ways, but much like EN's cull, we have no way of knowing it.
What we do know is that they consistently perform worse in NA times and better in CN/JP times, and the VODs reflect that.
In HK and Taiwan, Luxiem streams almost always make it to the trending tab for youtube. Mysta's Easter egg stream is still at like #20.

>Vox massively outpacing everyone's sub growth while having lower CCV than Mysta
He's actually only 1k a day more than Mysta, which isn't insignificant, but everyone in Luxiem is getting 2-4k subs a day for months now.
We have plenty of holodata that shows that Subs and Sub growth does not correlate much with CCV (I mean, look at HoloEN vs Pekora).
It's not like Vox and Mysta have weak VODs compared to most of HoloEN either so Vox having 600k subs isn't that weird.

I mean if they get exposed for botting, then great, less fucked up looking graphs. The level of virtrol in this thread for treating their numbers as numbers is annoying tho.

>> No.22818511

>>22818110
kill yourself you fucking parasitic numberjew. I hope 100 more schizos hijack your retarded posts.

>> No.22818518

>>22818404
So? That same thing happened back when we were using vnuma and nobody complained about it back then

>> No.22818554

>>22818485
>(I mean, look at HoloEN vs Pekora).
retard

>> No.22818562

>>22818471
another holocope
added to the list, sister

>> No.22818574

jesus this is the power 1 schizo can hold over a thread

>> No.22818573

>>22818110
Kill yourself

>> No.22818597

>>22818562
nijiniggers can't meme

>> No.22818603

>>22818389

>Golds:
Hololive JP: 20
Nijisanji JP: 0

>EN golds:
Hololive EN: 20
Nijisanji EN: 0

>VPN/BOT gold
Nijisanji EN: 7

this the real post from now on

>> No.22818605

>>22818485
>The level of vitriol in this thread for treating their numbers as numbers is annoying tho
>The numbers thread isn't ok with blatantly botted and fake numbers
Yeah, "vitriol". More like recognizing the system is broken and calling them out on it.

>> No.22818635

>>22818482
the japs at Niji have been getting humilated every day so of course the post seems familiar anon

>> No.22818639

>>22818554
You got some numbers to post, bitch?
Please show the correlation between subs and CCV.

>> No.22818651

>>22818574
you cannot stand in the way of the truth, no matter how many lies you weave, the truth remains immutable, and it will bury you.

>> No.22818654
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22818654

Just your daily reminder that Sonny “24k” Brisko, who typically -peaks- around 3.8k, just happened to get a bday karaoke of 23.8k. 2 streams after his bday later, and he’s peaking at 1.8k. Just let that sink in for a moment.

>> No.22818664

>>22818562
how much you paid for bots nijinniger

>> No.22818673

>>22818518
>vnuma
Was there other sites chuubas tracking sites that might give higher peaks during Vnuma days?

>> No.22818674

>>22818573
>>22818511
>>22818263
>>22818169
I made all these posts btw

>> No.22818706

>>22818603
>>22818562

>> No.22818710
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>>22816559
Porka I KNEEL
Yes I know you're not as fat as you used to be....

>> No.22818714

>>22818328
I wonder how the whole ecosystem works. I figure most of these services are either scams or reselling 1 or 2 real bot farms.

>> No.22818722

>>22818674
Omedetou, here's the complimentary (You)

>> No.22818725

>>22818651
what truth?

>> No.22818728

>>22818186
>>22818199
>>22818218
>>22818467
I made all these posts

>> No.22818762

>>22818603
>Hololive JP: 20
retard even by your own fake tally they won 16, good job outing yourself for when you claim to be looking out for hal

>> No.22818779

>>22818654
I'm sure the graph of his karaoke wasn't loaded with plateus/declines followed up by sharp inclines multiple times over a set interval, right?

>> No.22818791

>>22818654
Looks normal, more peiple just tune in for karaoke

>> No.22818799

>>22818762
Hal is a honorary Holo

>> No.22818798

>>22818725
The truth that Hal won the day, and the duplicitous sniggerers needed to resort to numbers alchemy and unsavoury rhetoric to deny that win

>> No.22818804

>>22818654
>Comparing birthday buff stacked, first time karaoke with ep3 of Dusk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uaMSso97lc
Good thing it wasn't unarchived and we can see it's a 300k, view 1-hour VOD with 29k likes, which is in-line with 23k peak short stream.

>> No.22818828

>>22818728
Omedetou, here's the complimenta-
Hey, one of those are mine!

>> No.22818836

>>22818762
Hal is a honourary Holo

>> No.22818854

There better be a lot of lewd Miko next thread or I will be very disappointed.

>> No.22818858

>>22818728
>NijiENfags can't even come up with their own replies
meds

>> No.22818881

>>22816147
You see how close your "pretend" retardation is to the real deal?
>>22818791

>> No.22818900
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>>22818779
It’s great that you ask that anon, because we can relive that very moment here with this graph!

>> No.22818903

>>22818562
>nijiniggers copy nijicope list
Not only do nijisanji constantly have to resort to copying their betters in hololive but even their fans have to resort to copying their betters too. You can't make this shit up.

>> No.22818913

>>22818854
There will be no lewdposting until the tally schism is mended

>> No.22818938

>>22818798
i didn't even mention anything about the tally or hal yet somehow you assumed i was talking about you, guess this is an admission of guilt

>> No.22818954

>>22818900
EUGH!
Get that abomination away from me!

>> No.22818957

>>22818854
Sorry, too busy prodding the hal schizo right now.

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>>22818654
And the graph was absolutely fucked, and has then been like this for every NijiEN boy event except mysta Guerilla, cause they didnt know they had to buy bots.

>> No.22818988

>>22818881
Yeah, that's my bad. I'll stop using hyperbole from now on

>> No.22819003
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22819003

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes:
>7048: Kobo (Hololive ID)
>2449: Zeta (Hololive ID)
>2091: Moona (Hololive ID)
>659: Kaela (Hololive ID)
>587: Taka (Nijisanji)
>529: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>527: Layla (Nijisanji)
>488: Iofi (Hololive ID)
>407: Bonnivier (Nijisanji)
>375: Zen (MAHA5)
>316: Nia (MAHA5)
>314: Hana (Nijisanji)
>283: Amicia (Nijisanji)
>268: Zea (Nijisanji)
>204: Siska (Nijisanji)
>200: Etna (Nijisanji)

Ollie stream died 2 minutes in, and she has to make a new one (after midnight JST), so I'll count her for tomorrow.

>> No.22819024

>>22818938
yeah, because calling people who state the truth "schizos" isn't something you and your kind have been doing all week or anything

>> No.22819034

>>22818804
Anon, this is a 70 minute long stream with 228k views with 20k likes with a peak of 10k viewers, less than half of Sonny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcr15OkSKqc

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Niji’s wild ride…

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>>22818978
Looks like a dude with an enormous chin wearing a helmet.

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>>22818900
how odd.

>> No.22819082

>nijiEN copies holoEN
>nijiENfags copies holoEN friends
Like oshi like fan
At least these their attempt to hijack the tally removing kzh is a certified NijiENfag original!

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>>22819024
seek help
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>>22818854
Don't worry anon I'm ready to go

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