/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2279705
Because the collab was underwhelming and basically got no attention at all. No one, not even Matsuri ever mentioned it again. It kinda exposed her in a negative light, all the "GURA IS THE BEST SINGER IN HOLOLIVE" rrat got slain.

She did mention it though, although briefly. You just don't watch her.

>>2279809
I wasn't asking why she did or didn't "mention" it. I was asking why she didn't go more in depth about the collab on itself, how it happened, what it entailed, how long it took, accept questions from the chat, shit like that.
Don't post if you lack reading comprehension and the word "discussion" is too complex for you.

>>2279705
It reminded her too much of the reason why she stopped doing collabs with JP in the first place.

>>2279924
Did Suisei show up?

>>2279740
True but sad to see.

>>2279919
Because it is obvious. They are an ocean apart. Each recorded their pieces and someone else glued them together. What do you want them to say?

>>2279966
Don't Chumfags blame Iofi for everything? Gotta blame someone else for their oshi being a thin skinned bitch.

>>2279705
because Sorairo days was a horrible song choice

>>2279705
She's an audiophile and knows that the producer destroyed it. She can't say she doesn't like it though.

>>2280016
I don't know, maybe something along the lines of what Mori did when she collabed with Watame on that Cloudy Sheep song, go more in depth. Specially considering the only Matuli and Gura interactions happened on her debut and earlier streams, only through chat, and was never brought up again. How the fuck did they end up collabing on a song all of a sudden? The lack of promotion and publicity (plus the fact that it was posted on Matuli's channel) probably means there are a lot of tourists and EOPs who don't even know the cover dropped. Why the lack of interest? It's like they truly didn't give a shit.

>>2280081
she could if she wasn't stupid and lazy

they probably didn't talk to eachother about it or even decide for themselves to do that song

>>2279705
It's not a real collab, they asked Gura for an audio of that song and Matsuri either sang over it or recorded her own version and they combined them.

I'm actually starting to believe the rrat that Gura is a depressed nihilist. It would explain her ridiculous lack of motivation, laziness, lack of interest in Hololive activities or even promoting herself.

>>2280182
She's just lazy from day 1. She doesn't even put on her old UwU cute voice that she did before hololive. She used to be able to do entire streams with that voice.

>>2280112
>It's like they truly didn't give a shit.
Because they didn't. Nobody involved in the production of this song was even warm to the idea. My guess is, behind the scenes, Gura got pressured into releasing SOME kind of song and did something that would wash her hands of the whole affair.

>>2280116
Are they allowed to say they dislike something like that? She'd probably also feel it's disrespectful to Matsuri though it seems Matsuri wasn't very excited about it either.
>>2280126
Yes anon, that's how modern music is often made. Them putting together separate audio tracks does not make it any less of a "real" collaboration.

>>2280209
That's easy to explain, her western woman vocal cords got fucked up and she can no longer maintain that voice.

>>2280182
Everything she does turns to gold with zero effort on her part. Even before Hololive. This probably made her entirely detached from her job and life in general.

>>2280239
Doesn't make sense for them to pressure her into rushing out a piece of shit, Cover doesn't put their hands in that aspect. Matsuri probably just asked, Gura agreed, they made the song, then Gura heard the final and didn't like it much but said nothing about it. Now she just doesn't acknowledge it much so she can move past it. She'll have her own music eventually.

>>2279705
Doesn't help that the song is starting to sound old

>>2280303
you're starting to sound old

>>2280287
everything she did prior to Hololive was more interesting. all she does now is stream shitty games watch movies and sing karaoke. the time between her strokes of genius may have been increasing over time but at least it was always something i would look forward to back then. its like when the vtubing thing turned from a hobby to a job she just lost all motivation to do anything remotely interesting and just plays it safe now

reminder that gura mentioned a few times to be working on her own song. Although, based on her conversations with Calli on minecraft collab, about creating new songs, she seems to be pretty bad at it

>>2280303
I don't get why they thought it would be a good idea to cover that song specifically. Pretty much every Holo talent has already sang it during their karaoke streams and it's pretty much the safest song to pick, as they don't even need permissions for it. Again, it's like they truly didn't give a shit, but if they didn't, then why fucking go through all the trouble in the first place?

>>2280301
>Doesn't make sense for them to pressure her into rushing out a piece of shit,
Do note that when I say pressure I don't only refer to "Get something out right now". I mean soft pressure, like "Gee, all of your friends have songs, it'd be great if you had a song too, no?". Gura can take a hint.

>>2280245
>Are they allowed to say they dislike something like that?
What is cover gonna do, suspend her for a week and make a forced apology video? If she really cared she could just say "I'm not really satisfied with how it turned out" on stream, or any other mild way of expressing her true opinion.

>>2280483
>"Gee, all of your friends have songs, it'd be great if you had a song too, no?"
Which isn't even true. Only Mori and Kiara have music. Honestly though I could see someone nudging her like that and it completely destroying her anxious brain. Probably why lately she said some shit like "make sure you take things at your own pace" when she was giving advice on being a vtuber.

>>2279705
You're talking about someone who was hesitant to even do a 2M celebration stream because she didn't think she deserved it, until Kiara snapped her out of it. Gura probably thinks her own projects aren't worth promoting heavily by default even if they happened to be well-made, because she doesn't think highly of herself and lets her own misplaced humility interfere with her duties in Hololive. Her not liking the final mix of the song is another plausible rrat: if it was a good production, I could've imagined Gura trying harder to advertise it, at least for the sake of her senpai.

>>2280503
>What is cover gonna do, suspend her for a week and make a forced apology video?

>>2280603
>until Kiara snapped her out of it
Stopped reading there.

>>2280503
kek gura is a little bitch. she struggles to even tell the chat when she doesnt like a video game. itll take another year before she has that much confidence

>>2280623
Anon... I also despise Kiara, but Gura did mention on stream how it was her who told her that she shouldn't feel ashamed to publicly celebrate her milestones and achievements. Makes sense, coming from the biggest numberfag in Hololive and one who cannot measure success if it is not put into digits.

>>2280265
UOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SENGUWA

>>2280689
Gura herself said it? I missed that episode. If Gura said it then I guess I'll concede. Fuck Kiara though.

>>2280689
>you WILL numberfag and you WILL like it, Gura
Based chicken

>>2280603
>>2280689
Wasn't it Kiara who said Gura shouldn't feel ashamed about celebrating her numbers? It was during either a Ryza or FEH stream.

>>2279740
But Gura is still the best singer. Despite being nerfed, she still sang better than Matsuri.

>>2280443
she also said she would get her revenge on amogus

>>2280830
Yes Kiara is the one who said it publicly first. The other anon claims Gura herself admitted Kiara is the one who convinced her at some point. I've never heard Gura say that myself but I've missed some of her recent streams so I'm taking his word for it.

>>2280844
That was when amogus was still the flavor of the month. She moved on to Valheim and now Monster Hunter since then.

>>2280126
this is how music is made, especially in the covid age. i literally just got out of a recording session last night where the drummer/guitars/bass/vocals had to record seperate from the horns

>>2279740
So this is the power of narrative schizoposting.

>>2279705
Because she hates the japanese.

>>2280834
Gura isn't even top 5
Suisei, Sora, Watame, Mio, Ogayu, Flare, Towa, Risu etc etc are all better

>>2280381
>>2280303
>If you were a teenager when TTGL aired you're pushing or over 30 by now

>>2281305
Good, the director said the TTGL ending can only be understood by old people

>>2281297
>Flare, Towa, Risu
lmao, this bait would've worked better if it hadn't been today's karaoke
>>2280834
Matsuri got heavy pitch shifts during her solo parts. She got butchered as well.

>>2280303
it doesn't sounds old, it's just a boring song
everyone's favorite song from gurren laggan was the fight the power one. nobody ever cared about the opening or the ending

>>2279740
This.

>>2281305
Stop

>>2281852
I cared about the opening, also "to hell with gattai" was good.

>>2279705
She did? Jesus Christ. Why is this shark such a bitch?

>>2280904
So, she lied.

>>2283612
>poster count doesn't rise

>>2283612
Her roommate is an ironic weeb who would ghost her fans just to chase stardom, you really surprised she did this?

>>2283821
sen really was just normalfag Nyanners

>>2281852
It's one of the most popular anime songs ever with tons of high profile covers from big names. Gura has sung it before on karaoke and it was way better, stow the cope

>>2284394
Not really a normalfag either though, and she’s definitely not an unironic weeb either. She’s just a weirdo, and not the dorky kind

>>2284628
>Not really a normalfag either though
she made the backing track for belle delphine's softcore youtube porn

>>2284681
And that makes her a normalfag why?

>>2284628
lol what sen was mega tiktok famous with the zoomies, they just didn't know what her name was because nobody credits anyone on that platform.

>>2284681
Like I said, a weirdo and not the cute and dorky kind

>>2281358
This is unironically true.

>>2284768
I didn't even knew that was Senzawas song until recently.

>>2279705
Because as soon as it was released Mori proceeded to mog the ever living fuck out of her with with a much more unexpected collab and then an album release plus her birthday stream.

>>2279740
Fpbp

>>2279705
here are her complete comments

>I was feeling a little down... a little down today. But, uhh, hanging out with you guys and playing this game has really, uh, lifted my mood and my spirits. So I say thank you! Uh, and I hope that, uh, you have a wonderful day, a wonderful evening, an' I'll see you guys later—Oh yeah! Sorairo Days. I sang a cover with, uh, Matsuri-senpai. We covered "Sorairo Days". [singing] Kimi wa kikoeru? [en: Can you hear it?] Yeah. So, if you wanna hear, hear—hear that, it's uploaded on Matsuri-senpai's channel. Yeah. Yeah! Yeah.
>I think that's all I have for you. Oh, I just remembered I got a really big jug of half-and-half tea [gasp]. Half tea, half lemonade. Oh, I'mma go have a big ol' glass of half-and-half.

>>2285357
It's so depressing when you put it text like the rambling of someone completely done with life. She only gets away with it because she has a nice voice and that's it.

>>2285357
Im kind if worried about her. She needs a boyfriend or something, i don't know, just get out of the house.

>>2280658
Gura definitely is not the type who wants to take the lead or be in the spotlight; she would have probably been just fine (if not far better, in not being regarded as some untouchable god on her way to slay Kizuna Ai, not attracting the ire of insecure numberfags, not making all other numberfags in Holo jealous etc) she swapped places in subs/clout with any of the other ENs

>>2281852
I'll give you that Sorairo is pretty played out but the TTGL endings are both hype as shit and I won't suffer that kind of disrespect

>>2281305
I still have the Black-Order and SS-Eclipse fansubs on an external hard drive. I used to download I'm groups to compare subs. I'm now 32.

>>2280265
NGL, I find her weird mixed decaying loli voice with clear western hints to be kinda hot.

>>2285357
oof

>>2285957

>>2285357
>Gura: "I don't wanna be meme shark loli anymore, I just wanna be happy..."

>>2285982
>wojaknigger
go back

>>2285982
Nah, that's more of a Twitter thing, specially to people who just cruise around Twitter for cancelling 24/7.

>>2280983
but shes not a whale or a dolphin

>>2286079
I'm pointing out his vocabulary choice

>>2284681
normalfags think belle delphine is cringe

>>2285660
Treasure the memories fellow oldfriend

>>2285357
What do you think Cover's response to her inevitable suicide will be?

>>2285514
Ame will groundpound the life back into her when they get vaccinated and offcollab

>>2286155
then why was the song sen made for her the most popular thing on tiktok for months, it's all I would hear coming from my daughter's and her friends' phones. belle WAS popular and is NOW cringe

>>2280743
>Fuck Kiara though.
7 months little monkey, 7 months and the orange lady still makes you seethe.
What a sad existence.

>>2286225
>ame
>getting vaccinated

>>2286229
Dunno, I hang out with the most normalfag upper crust white people you can imagine. Young doctors, bankers, finance analysts etc and they pretty much all think shes straight up pedobait or for mentally unhealthy children

>>2286336
that just means she doesn't appeal to millennials, not that she's not for normalfags. normalfag is an attitude not an age range.

>>2285514
>>2286204
>She needs a boyfriend or something
Pretty sure getting her a boyfriend would not help:

>Get her one
>Shark become 300% more happy and the like
>Best streak of collabs and whatnot of her career
>Guy eventually leaves her cuz Gura is Gura
>No, seriously anon, there's not a lot of people here who would actually tolerate meme shark's NEET habits outside of a few very deranged and dangerous schizos here who she would probably not even talk to in RL because creepier than her
>Morale in streams drops super hard
>Meltdowns surpass Matsuri
>Even some flat out crying sessions after a superchat or something
>Some time passes
>Wake up to the news of her sudden termination
>/vt/ is kill
>Not really, but threads are burning like oil and jannies are on suicide watch
>Previous life twitter posts cryptic shit
>Later, /jp/ finds about some girl with her profile hanged herself after cutting her wrists.
>/vt/ is actually kill
>Ogeys become rrats
>END OF /vt/
Seriously, this shit will reach MoguBoat levels of absurdity if she really commits un-life.

>>2286408
Could you imagine how hard she would go into parasocial relationship mode with her chat if her bf broke up with her. We need a brave chumbud to sacrifice their mental health for the greater good

>>2286336
Normalfags will never understand.

>>2284394
>>2284628
She really hates HER, and i think the alcohol rrat might have some true to it.

https://streamable.com/ur7off

>>2286596
what a chad

>>2286596
>rrat
>HER
>might have some true
retard.
sen was always drunk as fuck, it's not a rumor.

>>2286495
>We need a brave chumbud to sacrifice their mental health for the greater good
This doesn't work either, if she realizes she's breaking or killing her BF out of pure NEETness, same route happens, just that this time the fellow chumbud is who finds her hanging over a pool of blood and maybe goes deranged and does something with the body (cutting it, fucking it, put it in a fridge, dissecate it, go figure, it has happened before).
The only way to save shark is to just be friendly, it's the only way, she rejects horny and nasty, but supports positivity.
The only way to save shark is to compliment shark, do not touch shark or she will roll over and die.

>>2286689
>he fell for the drunk meme
>he really doesn't know
oh no no no, anon, I...

>>2286735
There IS a proper psycho out there who is perfect for her, and they would both realize this if they met, but it wouldn't solve anything anyways.

>>2286778
if you haven't heard sen puking her ass off I'll have to ask you to leave.

>>2286408
I mean if she starfishes once a night she can do whatever the hell she wants and I'm happy

>>2286040
>leave your past behind, because you're tired of being 'le drunk cowboy', and hope this new gig might bring you some happiness
>it doesn't help at all

>>2286114
thanks anon, I'll refrain from using those words from now on

>>2286778
>Get called out for being a newfag
>Pretend you have some sekret knowledge that the autists here havn't dug up yet to salvage your ego
Like clockwork

>>2286818
>doubling down
oh little HERfaggot, when will you learn
I assume you're a clipnigger whose only knowledge of HER comes from her old channel and those fags posting clips on YouTube.

>>2286838
>starfishes once a night
I'm sorry, I haven't reached PEAK AUTISM to speak in such a level of finnesse, please explain.

>>2280026
No, but it was Iofi's fault that Gura didn't show up to Calli's birthday.

>>2286931
nope, rewatch the battle for bikini bottom streams alzheimerkun

>>2286911
>newfag with lack of knowledge calling others newfags and acting smug
Like clockwork

>>2279705
Enma forbid her from talking about it

>>2287028
Just end the recursive dick measuring at this post.
The answer to OP's question is Gura doesn't care about anything. She's a kind soul, but a schizoid.

>>2287020
Did HER really puke on stream?

>>2286938
Starfishing is used to describe girls who are bad at sex. They lie on the bed with their legs spread open and let the boy do all the work

>>2279705
Gura barely acknowledges she's even in Hololive at this point.

>>2279919
is there really anything you want to know about it that you can't immediately tell from listening to it?

>>2287083
>HER
watch the streams and find out newfag, or are you going to complain about being told to fucking lurk more.

>>2287128
Bro the Bikini Bottom stream is 4+ hours, what do you want me to search 4 hours of footage.

>>2287092
>read about this
>go check some porn about it
>also Hentai
>suddenly, new fetish
WTF I love Gura now.

>>2287162
no I expect you to watch it if you want to know the answer to your asinine question. this place isn't google fucking lite where you just put in whatever dumb question you can think of and then people are supposed to answer you. fucking watch streams. inform yourself. don't let other people tell you how to think or feel on the internet. make your own decisions. discover the truth, don't accept it. you have the attitude of a redditor and it makes me sick.

>>2287162
yes

>>2287162
If I were the anon who gave you the answer to this, I would have given you a longer stream without the actual answer just to fuck with you
Do reps motherfucker.

>>2287240
>>2287255
>>2287316
Why are you guys like this, i just wanna see that specific part, i dont wanna watch 4 hours of sponge bob footage. Dont be like that come on.

>>2287240
Most people won't bother watching ancient roommate archives so they won't ever find out about that one time she puked on stream. It's better to link it so more people know but I won't tell you what to do.

>>2287438
>It's better to link it so more people know
why? I don't want more normalfags coming here because they think this is the place for the super sekrit info.

>>2287092
Weird, we just called that being a dead fish.

Starfish must be a zoomer thing I guess.

>>2287436
They're trolling you. She drinks hard lemonade and her retarded fans pretend she's drunk when in reality she's barely buzzed. She would never actually get drunk on stream, her paranoia prevents it.

>>2287509
because it's funny

>>2287525
kill yourself spoonfeeding faggot.

>>2287525
cope gura's liver is almost as damaged as mori's

>>2287525
Ahh thanks, got it.

I'm of the idea that EN and JP should never collab, the EN girls don't even try to be amicable or welcoming. Gura is the worst offender she just doesn't give a shit because she has the numbers already. Eventually EN will let one of those pronoun spouter vtweeters in their ranks, and they will all crash and burn. Better to not even have the JP girls bond too much with them.

>>2287525
You always know someone is full of shit when they pretend to hold back something they'd be jumping over themselves to spread if it was real

spoonfeeding redditors are killing this website

why the fuck do you fags hate divulging info like you are the master of secrets? You are the reasons why threads go to shit

>>2287663
"You always know someone is full of shit when they pretend to hold back something they'd be jumping over themselves to spread if it was real" he typed, smirking. He wiped at the sweat on his pimple covered brow, pushing aside clumps of unkempt, dirty hair.
The glow of the computer monitor was the lone light source for the small bedroom, and his pale, greasy face shone dimly in its light. He had installed blackout curtains six years earlier, and once he pulled them shut against the sun, never again had the room seen natural light.
His eyes darted to the words he had typed. Licking his dry lips, he reached for the bottle of Mountain Dew which was a staple upon his well-used desk. Greedily and noisily, he drank in furious gulps, finishing the remaining flat soda, then tossed the empty bottle to the floor amid an evergrowing garbage carpet of soda bottles, candy wrappers, fast food containers and dried, crunchy jizz tissues.
He hovered the mouse over the "Post" button on the screen. Of course, having paid his dues to become an elite member what he had come to think of as "HIS WEBSITE," he didn't have to prove his humanity to a computer. He was above that, surely.
He steadied himself and breathed deeply, inhaling the tangy, acrid aroma that was his room. He slammed his finger down on the mouse, sending his supreme opinion to a worldwide Mongolian yak herding forum for all to see.
"That'll show that asshole," he grumbled aloud to his dark, lonely room.

>>2287764
why would anyone want to have a discussion about a topic with someone who can't even put on the basic effort to be as informed as everyone else. secondaries are just lazy fucks that have nothing of value to contribute to the subject, because they have no idea what they're talking due to only knowing the cliff notes.

>>2287652
medicaments

>>2287772
u mad bro

>>2287722
Hmm
How so?

>>2286596
>next karaoke stream
>she gets emotional
>starts crying
>superchat 50 bucks
>"Damn Gura, you are so emotional, you been drinking again?"
She might actually tell you to go fuck yourself and end the stream.

>>2287889
because every discussion devolves into
>sauce?
>link?
or some other variation.

>>2286285
>>2279705
Schizos and HERfags that don't watch streams, what a shit thread.

>>2286596
this was based and i still cheer at her shitting on those unfunny fags

>>2287962
Link?

>>2287965
>watching EN streams
what kind of a faggot would do that

>>2286596
Drunks really hate being called drunk.

>>2288017
heh

>>2287652
Well, there's a reason why JP girls don't even bother asking Gura for a collab anymore. They know it's pointless to. At least the other EN girls seem open to collabing with the JP girls.

>>2288112
Someone post the Shion/Gura rrat.

>>2279705
I hate this depressive whore

>>2287962
>>2287722
>post lies and bullshit
>people call you out, and tell you to post proof that your bullshit isn't actually bullshit
>"um ackchyually sweaty asking for proof is problematic"

>>2288976
>can't use google
>people tell you to stop being a retard and just watch the stream if you want the truth.
>"um ackchuyally encouraging people to research things themselves is problematic"

>>2280116
>she could if she wasn't stupid and lazy
nah, i think you're misunderstanding the psychology involved. First of all she's a newbie, who is committing one of the big sins in a Japanese company, showing up her sempai. and not just a little bit, but a lot.

She needs to show she's a team player at every turn or else she'll ostracize herself from her coworkers.

>>2287240
I'm busy researching the cure for cancer I don't have time to search through some fag anime streams for a bitch puking.

>>2289097
then you're a normalfag and I think reddit might be more up your alley.

>>2286596
>a drunk
Nice freudian slip, retard. People just said she sounded drunk (she was actually tipsy btw), not calling her an alcoholic. They did the same thing to all of her genmates too because it was fucking new years. She realized she was a retard too because she came back next stream back pedaling saying "haha I know I said I was completely serious but I wasn't actually serious. You think I'd be serious about something like that, guys? I was tipsy by the way! huahaha"

>>2289119
What is this reddit? You wouldn't have a link for it by any chance would you? Or is this something I need to search the /jp/ archives for?

>>2289220
use google

>>2286596
having been homeless and worthless drunk, I can tell you a couple of things that might shed some light.

When people come out of that dark tunnel, the reminder of that life is legit horrible. it's not funny. It usually cost them everything, friends, family, no one will return your calls, no one will talk to you, people you knew your whole life will turn their back on you, and you're left with nothing but regret and shame. It's this realization that will drive a lot of drunks back into drinking.

So you assholes calling her a drunk in stream are only hurting her. it doesn't make her laugh. it doesn't make her smile. if anything it makes her cry as it brings up all she's lost.

Yes she was a drunk, yes, some people became her fans because she was an entertaining drunk. but that's not who she wants to be anymore. I'd think basic human decency would let people move on, lord knows no one in her life will probably ever give her the time of day right now, she doesn't need this shit from the only people she interacts with anymore, unless you want to see a relapse.

this aint white knighting, this is simple human empathy. I still haven't seen a brother in 10 years now, thanks to my former drinking. and only seen my father once in that time. not a single other member of my former family and friends has so much as said hello to me in 10 years. No one congratulated me on getting sober, getting a job and car, and getting off the street. It's a pain i still carry with me, the knowledge of my complete failure as a person.

let the shark girl be a shark girl, and drop this drunk bullshit.

>>2289230
Google? Do I have to bing that to find it or is there a hyperlink available?

>>2289297
>is there a hyperlink available?

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=reddit

Here ya go newfriend!

*EDIT*

Wow! 69 UPBOATS a new PB!!!!

*EDIT 2*

OH LAWDY MY FIRST REDDIT GOLD!!!! Thank you kind Xir!

>>2289334
I'm clicking the link but nothing is happening. I tried to double click it but it just highlighted the text. It's not showing as blue I don't think you registered the hyperlink properly friend.

>>2289402
try going forward in time, I fixed it in the second edit!

>>2289263
The drunk bullshit is purely conjecture, I don't think she was ever an alcoholic. If she was she shouldn't be drinking alcohol at all anymore. Quit projecting your garbage onto her.

>>2287965
>another nigger acting smug and reusing buzzwords
great contribution to the board faggot

>>2289263
Congrats on being sober, I'm proud of you

>>2285357
Manic Depression is a bitch.

all the fags accusing Gura of being a (former) alcoholic literally have never watched a full s*wa stream. they all learned about her past identity after all the roommate posting and dox discussions shortly after debut. they won't be able to tell you about a single stream or segment not featured on a YouTube doxnigger clip channel or any clips found on the s*wa clips archive

Have any of you just considered the much simpler explanation that gura is mentally retarded? That explains pretty much all of her behavior.

>>2289731
I prefer the term mentally refined

>>2285357
I've been there, hopefully shark gets better.

>>2289662
you don't need to watch a full stream, 10 seconds of her talking are enough to tell she's pretending (badly) to be drunk, everyone who has been with a drunk girl can tell

Schizos are the worst

>>2289263
I respect you for getting your act together, and I feel for you when you talk about being abandoned by others. Look on the bright side though--you discovered fairly early on what everyone eventually finds out in life, which is that all relationships are circumstantial and transactional and that, at the end of the day, everybody only cares about themselves. When faced with a dilemma where they must choose others or choose themselves, they will always choose themselves. It might have come at what you consider to be a great price, but you are a stronger and wiser person for the catastrophes that happened in your life.

>>2289662
I don't know why people are so stupid. Like holy fuck, she wasn't a goddamn alcoholic.

>>2290415
that's exactly what I stated, faggot, why the fuck are you replying to me? literal retard

>>2286596
It's honestly just common sense not to bring up or to make reference to past entities like this, even without getting into all the drunk stuff. Gura is Gura, and that's all we need to know.

>Shitty virtual celebrity gossip thread but with extra schizphremia and samefaggotry
>>2289529
You already made this thread an irredeemable pile of crap so I might as well drop in some of mine

>>2290491
he's agreeing with you anon, why are you so angry?

the most optimistic theory i can come up with is that they started working on this quite a while ago, right around the time gura was singing it fairly often during karaoke, so maybe recording her part in november or more likely december, and that it just took ages for some reason for mixing, mastering, and then cover to get it out the door. because of that, both she and matsuri feel somewhat disconnected from it because it's been so long since they worked on it. in the meantime both of them have worked on more interesting and exciting stuff, some of which has yet to see the light of day, so they have a hard time getting hyped up about this?

oh, who am i kidding...

>>2290814
Medica..... wait no this is actually plausible.

>>2290814
>oh, who am i kidding...
don't beat yourself up, staying optimistic is good for your mental health anonchama

>>2290874
she did say she had to record something a while ago late last year, but most of us just ended up assuming it had been her legal fine print/emcee voiceover for 2nd fes.

>>2289662
So she's just naturally brain damaged?

>>2291062
She just has bad ADHD

>>2290415
Because I'm agreeing with you.

>>2291062
She's not even stupid.

>>2291435
Meant for
>>2290491

>>2279740
>all the "GURA IS THE BEST SINGER IN HOLOLIVE" rrat got slain.
It's not a rrat and nothing about that song put any doubt on her singing ability, the fact that it was shit is entirely 100% the fault of the terrible production by that sound engineer.

>>2290533
Calling her drunk isn't a reference. She was obviously tipsy, what the fuck? As a matter of fact the alcohol is probably why she sperged out like that.

https://youtu.be/fp_tHKAjhyU?t=3345

>>2291456
She eats pizza in a bathtub

>>2291663
How is that stupid? She's just relaxing while she eats dinner.

I think Senzawa gets high back then, not drunk

>>2291663
Based?

The fact that some of you actually believe that an ex alcoholic of all things would pass an audition for the fucking first gen of hololive english is hilarious to me.
Even an ex porn star would have more chances.

1M btw

RRATS OBLITERATED

>>2300034
you have a very low bar for obliteration

>>2290814
well then

>>2280452
Because every Holo's sang it. I can't imagine what it must be like for Gura, who seems to genuinely love music and in a wide variety of genres, yet knowing that for various reasons she's going to be stuck covering the same shitty anime OPs that everyone else is also covering and then maybe getting like two songs she actually wants. It'd drive me nuts I know that.

>>2301225
i realized today that it doesn't matter and that it's mostly just an annoying waste of her time. this is not a company that is ever going to give her an ounce of support making any kind of interesting music. she might be able to figure out a way to get there herself eventually, but if she does, it'll be despite cover doing their damnedest to keep her shackled to the floor for as long as she's with them. she does plenty of live singing without them actively sabotaging her and with whatever she wants to sing and it seems there'll be plenty of that to listen to for a long time to come.

>>2281852
"Thrust Through the Heavens with your Spirit" is my personal favorite, so much emotion surrounding that song.

>>2286204
If it's anything like her 1 million and 2 million milestones they'll give it a half-assed mention, promise a more elaborate tribute and then just kind of forget to do it.

Kek. She actually hated it

>>2279740
Chumbuds are delusional don't mind them

>>2290533
People were saying the same thing to Ame and probably anyone else streaming on New Years. Her getting all pissy just made it look worse. Besides it's not like she doesn't dogwhistle to HERfags on the regular, ever since her fucking debut thumbnail with mystery cowboy in the upper left corner.

>>2290814
Turns out that's exactly what happened. Overall she just seems satisfied that it finally got out and has long been ready to move on from it, which is not really as indicative of her disliking the mix as one might think. Doesn't seem like she had any meaningful interactions with Matsuri in the process though, which is unfortunate.

>>2286495
No. That sounds like a good way to expedite the path to an hero if she thinks the only people in her life that care about her are the ones that watch her be a fictional character.

>>2301346
you act like sen has ever made any interesting music.

>>2286204

2 week suspension

>>2279705
Because she is a tranny

>>2279705
She must be pissed that the recording's quality got butchered in the mixing, I'm sure the "engineer" (probably some SEA indie from Freelancer) could've done a better job.

>>2290814
I had a feeling it was something like this desu
But 5-6 months? really? I don't think it takes that long to get a fucking cover out.
Now I'm interested in the delay

>>2301225
Nobody is stopping her from using her repulsive, disgusting amount of MONEY to produce her own songs according to her own tastes.

>>2301225
Gura deserves her own original release, almost everyone in JP had one. Why the fuck it's taking Yagoo so long to organize stuff for an original release?

I don't believe Gura doesn't have any character-related lyrics to put into songs, she has the creativity and the experience, even if she doesn't have anything done right now, if the "higher ups" (Yagoo/ENMA or whatever) gave her a warranty and the freedom I'm sure she would make something nice.

It exposed her limitations and she is extremely conscious about them

>>2304343
Gura’s “creativity and experience” is just royalty free music slapped with some ironic weeb lyrics. This is not to hate on her of course, she really does deserve her own music and Cover would be dumb not to put effort in helping her, play the cards right and they’ll get something even better than any of the other holos song just because of how loved Gura is currently

Her screams are music to my ears.

>>2304459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMRtczzn9RE

>>2304431
This. She's got talent and a Midas touch but all that she has done before were basically shitposts. She's uneducated, untrained and inexperienced with producing music, anyone including herself expecting the ADHD shark to do everything is retarded.

>>2302540
i think she could.

>>2301902
that's okay, i still hate it so much that i can't listen to it.

>>2306781
>She's uneducated, untrained and inexperienced with producing music

This combined with the fact that she doesn’t speak Japanese and lives half a world away from Cover HQ probably slows the process quite a bit.

>>2279740
I'm not a cumbud but Gura is objectively a better singer than Matsuri. They intentionally made Matsuri's part more prominent out of respect for a Gen1 senpai.
Gura's karaoke stream of Sorairo is leagues above the collab version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqg79Ypt0Yg

>>2304207
I imagine any song she'd want to do would likely need to be approved by management and Cover seems to want their talents' music to largely be in the AKB48 mainstream J-Pop style. Mori probably gets away with what she does because she can produce it herself most likely.

Honestly they should look into getting vocaloid producers for their songwriting/production. It'd probably be cheaper anyway and definitely produce better and more musically interesting results.

>>2285357
Hopefully she will kill herself soon, but women are too afraid to do that. Guess it's a good thing as long as she is unhappy

>these vtubers only sing sorairo days
>not one try to sing Libera me from hell
Looks like they only sing ez songs.

>>2289263
This board is closer to reddit than /v/, and i thought it was impossible. Kill yourself

>>2289263
thanks for sharing this anon, and congrats on getting back on track. Good luck out there.

>>2310875

more than one anon gets off with the idea of the person behind the cute shark girl killing herself

>>2279705
>They sang sorairo days
that explain everything

>>2310875
>Openly state multiple times getting into Hololive saved her, improved her mental state massively and allowed her to make amazing new friends and to be more proactive and purposeful with her life, successfully moving on from HER and the depression and insecurities that persona entailed
>Suicidefags still think she's one of them because she acts lethargic and disinterested every now and then
Take your meds, preferably of the cyanide kind.

>>2313211
This. Wtf is wrong with this board? I only come here occasionally and every single time I see some insane theory that X holo is a depressed suicidal schizo bitch that hates everyone around them including themselves, all born from a few instances where they didn't radiate exactly 100% positivity at all times. Sometimes people just don't feel good and still have to go to work (stream) anyway. There's not a 1000 year lore behind it.

>>2313211
>>2313619
>DUDE, she isn't depressed even thought there's plenty of evidence supporting that bacause uhhhh.... Uhhhhhhh.... Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I said so

>>2286040
>timestamp

>>2313211
noooo you can't just heckin improve you need to stay an eternal victim it's why I can't get a jooob

>>2313740

>>2313740
being depressed doesn't mean she's some kind of mental cripple who has to be shut away in a hospital. that wouldn't even help. it's okay to be depressed, you can still have a job and participate in society.

>>2286596
>She's angry because someone spoke the truth
why?

>>2279705
Please, gods, don't let her become the Spoony of hololive.

>>2313926
that's gonna be Ame

>>2313910
my guess is that she trusted HERfags to not sperg out about her drinking on stream and got frustrated about how it happened in matter of seconds

>>2313211
>>2313619
>nooooooooo not the heckin sharkerino the cute hololiverino
She is a mess and you have to be an idiot to not see how fucked up that slut is, and keep in mind that Hololive isn't eternal and she will likely be thrown away like garbage. I wonder how a depressed whore will cope with that

I'm tired of trying to have actual conversations on here.
Fuck it going full schizo.

>>2279740
>basically got no attention at all.
it has 1M views

>>2313910
>hundreds of comments all going ITS HER, DRUNK COWBOY, THE GREMLIN IS BACK, SHE'S FREE and so on
Truly a mystery.

>>2314063
anon, stop projecting your mom on the shark girl

Why is there so much difference in the quality of fans of chumbuddy and 35p?

>>2284394
I don't think gura is as bad as Nyanners. The later is a bandwagoner that swings into whatever racks money that day. I have seen her paypigs say over and over her SJW phase is over but I don't fucking buy it on top of hating loli yet being a loli herself. "Petit" my ass.

>>2313740
just because your schizo brain assumes she's depressed it doesn't mean she is. you can interpret all the "evidence" you claim there is and twist it to fit your narrative, at the end of the day, you're just sperging delusions and are as clueless as the rest of us as to what's happening behind the scenes.

>>2307438
she's only ever done shitty parody songs.

>>2314367
at least nyanners was authentic at one point. sen's always been "ironic"

>>2315654
https://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/could

>>2315685
yeah she could also just do a face reveal and host an off-collab with Jay-Z. that doesn't mean it's likely.

Song choice and original songs are all up to the vtuber. People blaming management for Gura not releasing good stuff are riding too hard on a delusion that's not only baseless but demonstrably false. If Gura wanted to release covers of good songs or make an original song she could do it anytime she wanted with the loads of cash she gets. It's probably even easier for HoloEN than it is for JPs.

>>2315897
she had to ask for permission to make clips of her own streams

>>2316916
Based tard wranglers keeping the leash short.

>>2316916
How is that even marginally related?

>>2317051
it's an illustration of the intense level of control that management exert over talent. it is unreasonable to assert that talent can just go do whatever they want with songs, because we have tangible evidence demonstrating a far greater degree of micromanagement. yes, it is correct to assume that management are responsible for interference and delays.

>>2317497
yeah and that control is a total variable. it depends entirely on the tard that management has to wrangle. gura is a fucking idiot so she has to be watched closer.

>>2290814
you seem to be correct

>I was excited to find out that it was being posted
>because we worked on it a while ago
>it was nice to see the finished result
>very nice
>I'm happy you liked it

https://youtu.be/Q0a4WivJ_3c?t=16428

>>2317987
i normally am.

>>2317987
why must you kill the rrats anon

>>2317497
It's not an assumption, holos do talk about the production of their own MVs you know? It's mostly an independent endeavor, management is barely involved unless holos specifically ask for help.

>>2318037
it's still unlistenable.

>>2285660
>>2286199
If you were there, you'd know that Black-Order were considered the shit-tier speedsubs and you would wait for the "real" ones. I love you guys.

>>2280112
Supposedly it happened months ago before getting stuck in a loop of production hell. They probably forgot it even existed, until the day it released.

>>2313740
>Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I said so
What makes you think for even a second that your rambling has any more weight than the other anon?

>>2310991
>most Holos barely can communicate in any language that's not Japanese, let alone sing it
>expecting them to sing the mainly English song primarily sung by a guy in a genre mainly known for rhythm as opposed to vocalizing
>let alone expect them to be operetta capable singers

>>2285357
here are her additional comments from last night

>Ooh, it's cold. I'm cold. Brr! Ooh, brr! Uh, Olumai, thank you! "Congrats to you and Matsuri, Matsuri-senpai for a million views on 'Sorairo Days' after a week." Haah! Have you guys heard the cover? Sorairo Days. I sang "Sorairo Days" with Matsuri-senpai. Myeah? Did you listen to it? I hope you liked it. I hope you liiked iit. Yeah, I was excited to find out that it was, uh, being posted. Yeah. 'Cause we worked on it—we worked on it a while ago. Uhm. It was nice to see the finished result. It was. It was very nice. I'm happy you liked it! Aahheuw, Moby, thank you!
>...
>Uh, do I have any behind-the-scenes stories about the recording of "Sorairo Days"? Not really. Not really, no. It was pretty easy-going. We s—we s—we, we planned it back in... uhh, wuehhh... ah, October or November? And, then... yeah. That's when we started it. I don't really have any—we just did our thing. I dunno. I don't have any—no, I don't have any behind-the-scenes stories. I don't. No, no. Tomb World, thank you. Thank you Tomb World.

>>2315897
Not really. Gura is an employee of a private, for-profit company. Fair use goes out the window when it comes to corporations due to "endorsements policy".

>>2323122
based transcriptchama even respecting the stuttering and mental farts

>>2325762
i like her a lot but i try not to let my bias affect the quality of my transcription

>>2323122
>>2285357
Jesus dude, she is terrible at speaking. She sounds like an infantile Trump.

>>2322973
idk retard, maybe the fact that she has all the signs of a depressed person

>>2286973
Okay, i'll bite anon. How?

>>2326985
>she is terrible at speaking. She sounds like the last president of the US
Doesn't seem very important then

>>2281852
I don't know why none of them sing happily ever after

>>2286336
How is Belle pedobait? She's obviously an adult woman.

Did Matsuri even talk about the song?

>>2279705
Too busy sending her viewers to harass her coworkers again.

>>2286155
That’s true for males, but young women and girls think she’s a hero. No idea why.

>>2279740
The vocals are both well executed but the production and direction was boring. Gura singing it for karaoke is far more entertaining.

She seems detached from it because her recording was done months ago.

>>2280401
Senzawa was pretty boring from the archived streams I’ve seen. Way too reserved and nervous, utterly incapable of just being herself. She has matured so much and gotten so good at this.

>>2336256
Senzawa was Family Guy, forced joke every minute. Gura is Bojack Horseman, actual highbrow comedy that comes naturally

>>2281297
Watame is the only one that comes close. Suisei is excellent within her niche.

>>2283821
She ghosted her fans like a year before the reincarnation.

>>2336359
You're right on HER but calling Gura 'highbrow comedy' is lol. She's really not much different than before, except she doesn't swear and replaces explicit sexual terms with innuendos instead.

>>2336359
>Gura is Bojack Horseman, actual highbrow comedy that comes naturally
I like Gura but she is anything but highbrow. Maybe im not reddit enough to comprehend.

>>2336587
Sigh. No. Your humour has instead just gotten too /pol/iticized. "Cute" humour used to be the thing in 4chan (see: pic related). While Gura definitely came from an environment of zoomer memes, her soul is core oldfag.

So which one of you absolute chad is going to superchat a drunk joke in the next stream?

>>2303743
KEK

>>2336833
I miss the green text implying era.

>>2279705
>>2279705
Because obviously she hates Japan. She's a very western centric casual memester like redditors. Not a weeb.

>>2339010
Not based then

>>2280834
Bro did you not hear that thicc layer of auto tune?

>>2279705
she didnt retard you just missed it

>>2289529
>buzzword
nice buzzword faggot what are you gonna say next based or something

>>2339010
>hates Japan
>applied to work for a Japanese-based company
>self-admittedly not very knowledgeable in anime but still watched enough to pick up on common Japanese words and phrases, and once passionately preached about the validity of anime as a tool to help you learn the language
>unironically loves slice-of-life anime she's watched, listing KonoSuba as a favorite and referencing Hinako Note in more ways than one
>respects Japanese culture as a whole and its fans despite there being much she's ignorant to, never lashed out at JoJo fags despite their spamming the stream at every opportunity
>most of her favorite rhythm games are deeply rooted in weeb culture like Bandori and Project Diva
>sometimes sings Japanese versions of English songs out of sheer preference for the language alone
>sings Sorairo Days often, out of her own volition, because she's not limited by song choices in unarchived karaokes
(You)chama...

>>2340115
>can't hate Japan because engages in Japanese things
Anon...
I don't think gura hates japan
But are you unaware of vidya localizers, Funimation, and normie/sjw anime fans on twitter/reddit?

>>2340115
>NEVER collabed with a jp
>Only effort to learn japanese was a single doulingo stream that she's never doing again
She hates japan and she hates her coworkers

>>2339357
some people just can't hear it. i have a hard time imagining what it's like for them to listen to, because to me it's so obvious and distracting that it's the main thing i can hear in it.

>>2340460
Sure. But until you can provide any substantial evidence that links Gura to western colonizer redditor behavior beyond weak "she didn't say much about the song or Matsuri" rrats, that's all your concernfagging will ever amount to be.

>>2340542
>NEVER collabed with a jp
You're talking about someone who collabs in general no more than once everry 1.5 weeks, if that. As far as senpai collabs, she is either TERRIFIED at the possibility of being an awkward and poorly communicative embarrassment to her senpai or management is blocking her from those collabs, if you want to believe the Among Us rrat (and personally, I'd sooner believe that over Gura hating her co-workers).

>Only effort to learn japanese was a single doulingo stream that she's never doing again
She literally has a physical Japanese learning book in her possession. How much she may be doing her 日本語 reps is up in the air, but there's nothing to suggest she hasn't learned at least as much as Ame.

>>2286408
Matsuri had a breakdown?

>>2340115
and she likes japanese food

>>2286408
The Moguboat anon said he was doing that the very same month and yet nothing so far. What a pussy.