/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

FIRST

Ogey

>>22474999
Last thread*: >>22379231
tfw literally linked a thread from weeks ago

>Same OP picture
What did he mean by this?

>>22475190
what, you don't want to argue about hornyposting again for 100+ posts?

>>22475190
Timeloop thread

>>22475342
I just ignore the arguments. I don't ignore the horny posting images though

>>22475190
I liked the image and forgot what the previous OP was

Just remember I could kick all of you guy’s asses if I wanted to.

Sui-chan wa~

>>22475342
You just had to bring it up didn’t you nigger

>>22475623
Stop taking this place so seriously

>>22475715
Stop being a drama baiting dick head

>>22475746
>drama
holy shit

thoughts on Suityan's new apartment?

>>22475956
It's pretty spacious, most importantly the new bedroom has enough room for Anemachi's bed and then another kingsize bed for my wife and I.

>>22475956
Cheap

>>22475848
>discord image

>>22475956
Seems isolated

>>22475991
discord? i got it from soundcloud

>>22476036
Even worse

>>22476062
Why?

Starto endo

>>22476178
They can starto my endo, if you know what I mean.

>>22476178
I love awka….

Stream announcement doko

>>22475956
Considering she's moving next month, she probably already found a place, didn't she?
Now she can finally afford her own room without the risk of Anemachi falling down on her.

>>22476274
Here
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1511734304887685123

>>22476274
i held for as long as i could but i'm not counting on an afternoon stream anymore... good night

>>22476274
>has work
>has to come back and stream in streamer mode while concentrating and stream tomorrow and the day after.
Sorry bro but 99.9% they're not going to stream if you know your Suisei reps.

>>22476347
Good Night fag

>>22476340
context?

>>22476274
here's your actual answer
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1514894785592832003

imagine how foul mouthed offstream gamer Suityan is

>>22476642
90% of her speech is just rolling the Rs on この野郎

>>22476642
Its just non stop cyka blyats

Nanase-san...

Jwu and I see the old thread dead. Good one everybody

>>22477443
Go back go sleep

No stream
Welp, Hal it is.

>>22478122
Honestly if you want to potentially catch her POV going with one of the teams around them isn't the worst idea, especially in rings where they will have to rotate.

>>22478165
Best way is to watch Hal's POV and watch the killfeed and the map when he brings it up. If they wipe another team, switch to their stream for a POV, if they're close to another team on the map, bring up the other team's POV for a potential fight. Kind of tedious but it works.

>>22478556
I only recognize 1/3 of the player names

>>22478973
As a unityfag I recognize them all, and have watched at least one stream for the majority of them.

>>22478973
I don’t recognize them at all

watch Chigusa then.

I thought hal was playing for a sec there.

who is big reid star again?

>>22479854
Shirayuki Reid, formerly indie, now a founding member of Neoporte with Hal

>>22479854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dhGofsbpY0

Startend in the middle of like 7 squads right now

what about big met star

>>22479953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkeTrKHf51o

Startend 2nd place! They took the safe route and pushed for some kills at the end, Suisei did well to survive long enough to at least guarantee second place

Gonna post the others here while we're at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJvq8Ov0tts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKcl_a_Zv3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8fTC-GmB-U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijdrEtQthGU

Could be another decent hill for them.

I am in love with one of Suisei's cover.
The best quality I can get is ripping it off youtube right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbYMnGQvtsI
gorilla

>>22480568
What is this, Bring-your-Daughters-to-Work Day?
>>22480443
Yeah, they aren’t on Spotify or anything.

>>22480568
Gorilla downed them, 13th place for Startend this time

So basically in this round they
>Got landed on by Noah
>Ran from that into Pakael
>Ran from that into Gorilla
Talk about a meat grinder.

>>22480840
trial by fire

>suisei 62 dmg
>towa 62 dmg
THEY ARE

did sui jsut fumble that grenade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rmE4IA8BOA&feature=emb_title
POV

Tokomachi supremacy is taking over this thread!

>>22481579
both me btw

>>22481579
now post the one with Aqua

>>22482214
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97591550

>>22482214

>>22482320
Startend love
>>22482285
Startend too much love...

>>22482320
>startend off stream practice

I hope Suityan isn't being too hard on herself. She said that she's having fun but still...

>>22486286
I trust suityan 100% so I'm not worried at all.

>>22486286
She literally said in her Space that people not believing that she said she was having fun hurt her.

>>22487596
Wrong, she only said it made her felt 'ueh...'

Hey, Stargazers! Looking forward to seeing our oshis make another banger of a song!

>>22490847
>Hey, Stargazers!
Who now?

>>22491003
I... I googled the fanbase name just to make sure I remembered it correctly. Isn't this correct?

hmm

>>22490847
Fuck off cuckbeat

>>22491190
you know he's doing it on purpose, right? just ignore it

>>22491167
Beat Eater sounds goofy.

>>22491190
Deathstar is the best pairing. I'm not sorry.

>>22491290
It's somewhat catchy, I have high hopes for it.

>>22491362
I was talking about the name, I didn't know the song was out.

>>22491435
Huh, I listened to the original. It's a cover song.

Oh it's a Proseca song, Sounds quite decent on first listen.

>>22491167
>Two Holos I don't give a shit about
>Assuming it's on Reine's channel?
Don't care honestly.

>>22491812
Rude.

>>22491167
Ooh, a JP-EN-ID trio.

>>22492432
Huh. Didn't think of it that way.

>>22491106
We honourable elevens will never use filthy English as our fanbase name

I've figured out how to listen to SOS.
You aren't supposed to pay attention to it. It's a background song. Suichan's flagship songs are usually ones where you just concentrate on it and listen to her singing, but this one works different and is catchier if I don't concentrate on it.
It came up in my playlist when I sas cleaning earlier and then I just force repeated it for the entire time I was doing chores and it was amazing. Even the SOS oh SOS oh repeat didn't feel weird anymore.
It definitely needs another song or album to complete it though. It's just building up endlessly to nothing.

>>22493998
But it sounds so cool.

>>22494082
Hoshiyomi or gtfo

>>22494055
Think you've hit the nail on the head to be honest.

stargazer is already taken by a nijiEN fanbase now...

>>22494277
Doesn't matter, it doesn't need to be translated in the first place. Besides Hoshiyomi works well as it has part of her name in it.

>>22494055
That's with most dance/club type of songs. A bit of an odd choice to be your premiere song though. Unless that's the direction of their music unit.

what did Suityan say about Fallen Angel, the song from Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt? does she want to cover that? it has a lot of English lyrics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBF8uA3UJ6w

>>22494827
She mentioned it when people asked her to sing english songs again but she doesn't have the track so she can't.

>>22494107
Stargazers for life!

>>22496443
Only thing I'm gazing at is that stomach.

>>22491167
source?

>>22497142
Reine's mengen

>>22496443
>Stargazers
huh didn't think hoshiyomis would also be fans of a NijiEN male.

>>22497939
I couldn't even name you a NijiEN male.

>>22497939
Suisei had it claimed first. Like nigger, that's OUR word.

>>22497939
Stargazers isn't necessarily the only way to translate it, apparently the writing she uses is something like "Those who write about the stars

>>22498414
Chuck 星詠み in deepl.

>>22498414
>Those who write about the stars
That sounds kinda chuuni

>>22498490
Haha... yeah....

>>22498804
It is actually more along the lines of a poem/song of the stars or some shit, it's just funny that deepl spits that out.

>>22498968
Yeah, poetry of the stars or something. But it can also mean stargazer. Stargazer is also the cooler english translation, but Hoshiyomi is even cooler than translating it imo

>>22498502
>chuuni
Well it's Suityan we talking about.

>>22487596
i think suichan saying "i really hate losing" has made people think she's the kind of person to only enjoy doing activities she can win at and get super frustrated when she can't, when in reality it's more like, in the context of videogames, she's gonna be a massive tryhard and maybe throw a humorous tantrum and let out a big sigh after losing and that'd be it.

>>22487596
Kinda her fault for putting out the propagated idea that she’s a tryhard.

>>22501239
Tryhards know how to deal with losses through, that’s why they can still keep trying.

3:12 dance battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyXbfD6xrM

>>22503915
those are some magic hands

>>22504113
I bet you want those hands up your ass

>>22498804
Is it wrong?

HUH?

>>22506200
She's not a verified artist anymore...?

>>22506200
Congrats anon, Susan heard your cries of not being able to sort by most popular

>>22506200
wtf in the search it still shows up but when you click on page it's just verified.

>>22506271
If you search her name it still shows it, I don't know if you can select to be verified or an artist.
Maybe Suisei not being able to sort it by most viewed was annoying too.

>>22506379
She can choose to switch back just like that?

>>22506410
No I said I don't know if you can do that or not.

>>22506410
I guess.

>>22506379
I have 497 videos, but you have 496 Wtf YouTube

>>22506465
It's 496 for me too. I don't know what your extra video is.

>>22507718
I wonder if there's a desync on whether it counts the free chat or not.

>>22511971
Idk why that didn’t post as a gif.

>>22512159
I never saw the gif version before, it's cute.

Suicha

if sui does the vark duo concert again this year, who would you like to see with her this time?

>>22518779
Mori

>>22518779
If we can have absolutely anyone, Anemachi.

>>22518779
I want Aqua this time

>>22518779
i need it back

>>22518779
It'd have to be a Holo, right? Right now these two jump to the mind first for obvious reasons, but honestly I'd be happy with either of them. I have a thing for the cutesy moeblob songs Akutan does and Towa jams well with Rockmachi.

>>22518779
I won't buy concert ticket but Towel

>>22518779
Towa I guess. They work together really well.

>>22518779
Watame

>>22518779
Aqua

>>22518779
Aqua
If VARK happens again her partner will most likely be Miko again though, they sold the most tickets by a landslide

>>22521165
Aqua is a huge number magnet too though.

Aqua will be uploading a Startend vod tonight:
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1515150202218287106

>>22522537
oh neat

>>22518779
you WILL get more miComet and you WILL like it

>>22518779
I put this in every survey they had

>>22525571
What do the runes say

>>22525859
picrel

>>22525967
I understand

>>22525967
he's dead Jim

>>22525571
Let go anon

>>22526045
i'm not put-in-every-survey anon but i share his sentiment

>>22519953
This one dreams big. SSG schizoyomi

what is she looking anon ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oRhFncDU8k
rpr praising Suisei. I'm ready for this apex arc to be over, but I'm gonna miss StartEnd conversations so much.

>>22527512
Suisei get confused a lot in scramble close quarter gunfight but I can't really blame her. The UI and amount of effect can completely fuck gunfight in close ring situation.
> bubble/ring color
> comp meta means there are multiple meta characters from different team
> Caustic gas plus getting hit by other cc abilities that fuck with the vision
> ads remove your teammates name tag so even I accidently shoot teammate when I ads as there's no way to differentiate allies and enemies of identical characters

>>22527894
You don't really get into much dome fights in Apex from bronze to even high diamond ranked games. Playing in a tournament setting is much different than the usual Apex games. Honestly, the best I was hoping for Suisei in this tournament was not to be a detriment to the team and I think she's proven not to be by playing safe next to Towa. So when these high level Apex players are praising her, it's not just fluff.

>>22528421
It's not even dome fight ( a lot of nip meta team doesn't have gibby). It's the sheer amount teams alive in the final rings is overwhelming if you only play rank. Aqua experience some of that in master lobby but not suisei.
In bronze-diamond rank, people just ape each other in early ring so you typically go to ring 3 and 4 with like 10 teams or less

>>22528654

>>22528743
God, StartEnd art is too fucking cute.

>>22528743
a-any more valkyrie suichan fanart out there?

>>22529067
There's been a bunch.

>>22529187
i haven't been able to pay attention lately
(thanks)

>>22529187
Valkeyrie has such a good design and decent backstory tie in to titanfall but her shitty personality and voice lines have to ruin >>22529187
everything.

>>22529067

Suityan

Unpopular opinion here but after the second listen I became hooked on SOS and I love it a lot, can't stop replaying it. The MV is great too especially because of Suilegs

>>22528421
There’s plenty dome fight in diamonds, suisei is bad at strafing, knowing when to ape. Those things can only be fixed by simply playing the game more and reviewing your game.

>>22474999
hey anons, ive a weird question.
so ykknow how people either meme or unironically say when gura is fucking fertile?
Can we do that shit, with suisui?

>>22536430
Even if we wanted to, how would we know when her period starts?

>>22536595
Well, we could analyze some streams, see where anything of interest might show up, such as any delays due to menstrual pains or the like, and that's just a start. By going through month after month, a calendar could be made of past periods/fertility, and from there we could predict the future onwards.
Of course, there must be some base evidence for this to ever leave the ground

>>22536595
>how would we know when her period starts?
There's no way to know with Suisei, if she streamed every day it would be easier because the first day of a woman's period is too annoying so vtubers would probably skip streaming that day
She could also have irregular periods

oh!
https://youtu.be/XpgSrULHibg

>>22536831
Interesting, but I would think they should get a new group name after the tournament. I mean the name entirely relates to it after all and won't make any sense after it's over.

>>22536934
At least it isn't ponkotsu star lmao

>>22536950
Kino name

>>22536934
StartEnd is kinda iconic for now and the nonsensical name doesn't really deter suisei

>>22536831
Knew it was coming, thought they might wait till the 17th though.

>>22536793
I doubt its the irregular ones, since that's a pretty serious medical condition iirc, what with the frequent and unpredictable blood loss.
as for her streaming schedule, it would be nice to see more of her, and what days she takes off.

>>22537456
Irregular periods can occur with light periods too. It doesn't describe things one way or another just means that it doesn't follow the same cycle that is expected. One of the forms refers to a typically longer, or lighter cycle.

>>22537456
>since that's a pretty serious medical condition iirc
not necessarily , sometimes it has no other symptoms besides getting your period every 35 days or so, can be caused by polycystic ovary syndrome

>>22536430
Why do you want to start that? That's creepy af

You faggots seriously discussing periods brought up by an ESL-Cumbud? kys

Pervert

>>22537875
no you

>>22537850
she waifu

>>22537873
r/okbuddyhololive needs screencaps, pls andastnd.

>>22537936
The only answer I can find

>>22527512
Honestly rpr seems like a cool enough dude from what I’ve seen of him collabing with other chuubas, but he comes across as a bit of a suck up when talking about how good they are.

Suisei doesn't have periods, she puts out sparkles there too.

>>22537873
You know full well its a shitposter replying to himself, even old ringofags keep to themselves and their thread, stop feeding their ego

>>22538248
He barely said anything though. His praise didn't seem exaggerated to me.

>>22538248
Standards are lower when it comes to cute girls, please understand.

>>22538441
anon~ i just wanna learn more about suisex

>Suisei finally singing with Aqua.
Woah.

https://youtu.be/c0Se7yaBr44
Why did she lie?

Looks like the stream will start an hour after the cover premieres: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0QUB-aeKvE

>>22536831
oh? i honestly didn't expect this, or at least not this soon. that's amazing.
>>22539323
these streaming times are gonna kill me man... i should've just decided to stick to clips for the apex arc from the get go.

Can Suityan shake her hips now?
https://streamable.com/ybenc7

>>22538497
Some of the ways he’s tried to talk up Towa’s skill though is way over the top. Like she’s not as bad as the Vspo thread here would like to tell you, but she isn’t as good as he says she is either. He just doesn’t want to say anything to get on the wrong side of anybody in the JP Apex scene.

>>22541360
God Flare in 3D is so good, women just knows how to move her body. Matsuri is obviously great too.

>>22541487
The power of hag on their peak before their body breaks down.

>>22536831
Starting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgSrULHibg
Suistarting

>>22542173
Hmmm breddy gud.

>>22542173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XSWZc1JBcs

It's good. I honestly thought that it would be shitty tbf

That was a really nice cover, on loop until Suistream starts.

>>22542173
That solo part from Suisei at 1:58 tho.

>>22542173
>Thumbnail
Sui legs are a fucking treasure.

>>22542173
lol, I get the song choice now. The whole video is them dropping in.

Great vocals, wished they used a heavier backing track than the original, but I guess the time constraints were real.

>>22543226
It'll be the theme song of dropping into climatizer.

>>22543435
>play it at the start of every game
that's actually genius, wonder they'll play it later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBZPzLeyO8E
Starting!

>>22543810
I know Stellar Stellar is her current theme song, but why not use Template BGM?

SOS song was hyped up due to being a Suisei x Taku Inoue collab but it was terrible. How is Suisei x Mori Capsule and Wicked collab better than this trash.

>>22544298
It's okay.
They had a banger with 3:12 so they can have a whiffer

>>22544332
I genuinely tried to like it but it just had no catchy part to get hooked on.

Towaaaa why didnt you take the portaaal.

>>22544388
She was on the other side and in bad shape.

>>22544298
It's a bg song. If you play it while doing chores or driving it's amazing.
Unlike Stellar Stellar, which catches your attention and forces you to listen to it intently, doing so with SOS makes it uninteresting because it's repetitive.

>>22544414
Welp, least they got another team to go do something instead of hiding in a box for 6 rounds.

>>22544388
She needs correction

>>22544332
I wouldn’t say SOS is a whiff. It’s just a different genre.

https://twitter.com/nana_kaguraaa/status/1515289406592401410

Is this the bobsapp squad that bairly does any thing? Theyre actually doing stuff? thats amazing.

>>22544647
>Is this the bobsapp squad that bairly does any thing?
u wot m8

>>22544828
I spoke too soon, Deron got champ, lel.

Suityan flexing her Vocaloid knowledge

>>22545004
How much of a vocaloid otaku is suityan?

That was a clean pk shot

I dont mind seeing gorilla get champ at all.

Also that damage.

They got the kill points that round.

Lol did a team just send aqua some energy ammo on that tram. its the little touches.

>>22545243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNUnyoVZA7k

That fight was a rush goddamn.

What's wrong with twappers

>>22547954
She felt that the pressure was mounting up too much lately and they're trying to cheer her up

>>22547954
mentaru mentaru...

>>22547954
Shes on the rag, and is hard on herself naturally. Put those two together, and you get a twap that needs a hug.

>>22547954
there are around 100k people watching her.
she knows she is not good enough and aqua is carrying the team but she is still somehow the leader.
every day she is reading a 50/50 mix of how many mistakes they are making every day and how they must win the event
this type of pressure build up on a person.
you can be 100% sure she won't be able to sleep today.

Do valk missiles ever work indoors?

>>22548876
not well and good way to hit yourself

>Those stats
>6th place

Apex is a funny guy.

Suisei...
veggies....

>Kakero
It's her favorite song.

Fuck yeah, sui didnt accidently.

>>22550839
>didnt accidently.
What did anon mean by this?

>>22551319
I ment she didn't die before she could drop her flag in towa's lap.

>>22518779
Towa actually Toko but it'd likely have to be a Holo.

>>22552271
Twappi feet...

>>22552283
I am retarded I am sorry.

>>22518779
Towa, they are cute together and like her singing so thats a plus

>>22544298
like i've said before a good artist making a bad song is historically nothing to worry about. wait for the album; if that thing sucks too then worry.

Getting rid of her devotion probably wasnt the best idea, but 4th in that mess is not bad at all.

Just peeked in
>they changed name to clantag
Cute

I thought Towa's cat was Suityan making noises...

>>22552909
It wasn't even bad, I listen to it from time to time

Well that was something.

Who was aqua talking to?

>>22554416
She went to Norio's totsu

>>22554416
Something about Norio sensei's birthday and crab. It was a totsu apparently.

Apex Musume was really fun

The tourney starts earlier than the usual time right?

>>22555195
6 pm tomorrow

Anyone have the POV of that valkyrie final ring play that they praised in that last game?

I hope I'm not jinxing anything but I really hope they do well tomorrow. Even if they don't win, as long as they fight without regrets
Startend love

>>22555440
Could've sworn they were on Gorrila, but either I'm mistaken or he wasn't streaming the extra shit.

>>22555341
Thats in about 14 hours 40 minutes, right? I have to work tomorrow so Im gonna have to sleep in the afternoon today
You are fucking my sleep schedule Towasama

>>22555440
Gori didn't stream the last match, sorry. Please take this as an apology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBD66Sa5Yg&t=0s

>>22555595
I still can't believe Sora had sex with a Gorilla.

>>22555555
17 hours 40 minutes, it starts two hours earlier than today's

>>22555457
Their nerves will fail them and they will lose every round in the most humiliating way possible coming dead last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiwL98lUl-g
Ninja iroha is singing GHOST

>>22555555
Hey, nice numbers. Checked

>>22555894
Oh yeah, I guess after Apex is over, Sui still has all these new kouhai to interact with. Besides Koyori, they were all kinda sidelined for her.

>>22555894
What'd she say about her Suisei-senpai?

>>22541442
He's a kenzoku. Of course he's gonna butter her up. Also at this point no critique will make them improve this close to the tourney so all you can do is just build their confidence so they don't lose their nerves in the tourney.

>>22556136
Lui and Botan + Towa did that not!gang beasts game I guess
That just leaves Chloe, Lap, and Iroha? Unless I missed something
>>22556184
The ones I saw were about her saying she really liked Suisei and the way she sings

>>22555924
I just realised I posted on the wrong thread
Im really glad they asked Suisui to join the team, looking forward to tomorrow stream, Im out
t. kenzoku

>>22556219
Suisei played Godfield with Lap and Iroha a few months back. But yeah, I’m also including ID3, Council, & IRyS.

>>22556655
Oh right, the godfield collab. I remember that being great too, but it escaped my mind. We'll see, I only really "want" to see her collab with a few of the overseas members but I don't think I'm currently against any of the ones she hasn't directly collabed with yet

>>22556655
>IRyS
God I hope the dumb nephelim actually DM's Suisei for that tetris collab so I can finally get that One last kiss official cover from them

>>22556184
Well she did call in for a totsu with her iirc and bullyed her with nin-nin stuff and tried to get her to sing that ninja song.

>>22556893
It's been a while since we've had a "suisei absolutely slaughters someone at a puzzle game after teaching them" stream

>Multiple long hour APEX streams.
>Normal streams are always 1 hour.
Come on...

https://twitter.com/ChokiliciousMe/status/1515309629114581001

>>22556893
Isn’t Hikaru Utada still off-limits? We lost a recent Karaoke to Sui singing Simple and Clean.

>>22557101
The Apex collabs doesn't depend on her though. In collabs she always go past the hour (it also applies to games with a slow start, such as Apex)

>>22557101
Hey raft lasted 4 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9r6lFYK9SE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9tsfkdgByA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KUZHKI-BDk

>>22558406
I think Shoujo Rei has become my favourite cover.

Hello Hoshiyomi bros, I hope your oshi wins the tournament tomorrow and even if she doesn't, I hope she haves a fun time.
~An IRySocrat

>>22558643
I think that's my favorite solo cover as well, but "I kissed Hatsune Miku" is slowly taking over. The MV makes me feel things.

>>22561134
Thank you IRySocrat. I hope your oshi collabs with ours soon

>>22561134
Thank you for your message. hololive's hopes rest on Startend tomorrow, I hope they win too. Don't worry though, she said she's having fun, they weren't there to win in the first place, but it would be a nice bonus ngl
I want IRyS to get the courage to proceed with the Tetris challenge someday so they can bond and collab in a song or something in the future

>>22558643
>>22561493
actually same, both covers i had on repeat for like a week when they got released and still put on repeat from time to time now.
i wish she did an official cover of marunouchi sadistic or matoi though...
>>22561134
thanks bud and yes tell her to dm suichan foe that tetris battle already!

>>22562892
>i wish she did an official cover of marunouchi sadistic
A proper marunouchi sadistic cover would be an absolute dream, her karaoke covers of it amazing. I also wish her or toko did a tsuki no waltz cover as well.

goddamn i truly believe there's two factions in hololive, people like suisei aqua towa nene korone and subaru who tries really hard to be a idol (giving their all in improving dance singing gaming) and theres people that is comfortable with stagnation and gfe pandering (you guys know who they are) and I'm just here to say that's a tough road ahead for the former faction. Suisei's conversation with Startend really stood out to me on how strong the trio mentally are esp suisei. I actually want to live life fully for once.