/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

When she starts giving 6%

>>22511488
Abayo! She's totally better, 100% better so much better that it's better if they don't collab anymore and I can just ignore her entire existence

Mori herself has cried over her ungrateful treatment of Kiara, saying shes neglected her, and realised Kiara is hard-working, positive, supportive, full of happiness, regardless of her.
and now they aren't as close, because Mori pushed her away.

Kiara is too good for Mori.

>>22511794
Too bad kiara will eventually force a collab again because she’s addicted to reaper cock

>>22512127
Don't post my wife stealing Kiara from Mori. Ame and Kiara are just good friends.

>>22512597
its not just your wife..everyone stealing her now that she's up for grabs

>>22512597
Eh, Kiara deserves someone who'll treat her right.

Yeah sure "deadbeat"( nijisister)

Mori is a shitty friend, simple as.

>>22512985
pretty much. Its honestly autistic how she shuts her friends out sometimes.
it stuns me how hollow she can act.

just recently, she ended her podcast on the dot, and sorta kicked Kronii and Gura out.
I mean, Ive seen some autistic things, but that takes the cake as some of the most autistic. How do the girls even respond to being treated like that? Just kicked out, because they arent compatible with her strict lifestyle?

And that time where she didn't listen to Kiaras song at all, but said she did.
Like, what the fuck was she thinking? Her friend worked on making a song, and you gonna lie and pretend you heard it?

>>22513859
>just recently, she ended her podcast on the dot, and sorta kicked Kronii and Gura out.
I mean, Ive seen some autistic things, but that takes the cake as some of the most autistic. How do the girls even respond to being treated like that? Just kicked out, because they arent compatible with her strict lifestyle
Things that never happened.

>>22513859
In the end, girls like Kiara are addicted to girls like Mori. When you've got a lot of love to give, someone with a cold demeanour or 'cool' sort of thing going on is going to be EXTREMELY appealing to dump affection into.

>>22512900
Kek. No sure doesn't anon

>>22514745
Unfortunately this. Now that Kiara has ton of simps she will always want someone who she thinks is unattainable. And unfortunately for her, mori likes dick

>>22514938
I agree 100%. It's honestly fascinating- we all want something we can't have. Kiara could be easily happier with someone who actually gives a crap about people. Now, I'm not knocking Mori really- I enjoy watching her from time to time, and her commitment to her work and brand is admirable- but girls addicted to the grind like her are NEVER going to be good matches for girls like Kiara. She'll just end up getting hurt...

So I guess this is the fanfic general now.

Kiara would have stayed in japan if Mori was a better friend.

honestly im good if there are no more takimori collabs, kiara works better off of other people in hololive

>>22515351
she couldnt, visa shit

>>22515155
addicted to the grind? did you forget about:
>5%
>TT
>drunk streams
>lean yab
Mori can't even do her job without drinking is that what you call commitment?

>>22515886
According to herself (but much more importantly, everyone around her) she's a workaholic (also an alcoholic), it's just that most of her work hours sure as hell doesn't go into streaming.

>>22515886
shes not even doing it, which is why its more cringe.

its nothing more than some edgy personality shit, like a highscooler trying to act like Sasuke. she's trying to rep the 'I work til I bleed #grindset'

but she just comes across as a mess.

Marriage with Kiawa

>>22515886
Streaming to her isn’t a job because it’s not hard. She does a little fan service, says Guh a few times and deadbeats nut on themselves

>>22512127
>Mori herself has cried over her ungrateful treatment of Kiara
Member's only?

>>22514812
Fry yourself, Eggman.

>>22522559
Nah, I saw that one and I'm not a member. It was around her anniversary I think

>>22523646
got a source?

>>22523720
Source: Your mum.

>>22515351
lmao there's no universe where Kiara chooses anyone over her cats

>>22523806
>lies
>also british
aight

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>>22513859
About the song thing, I know Kiara brushed it off as being nothing, but deep down it definitely hurt. I mean Kiara was always supporting her and promoting her, and for mori to lie so casually to her...

>>22511488
to be fair, everyone is too good for Kiara.

>>22523720
https://streamable.com/6qb5z6

>>22515351
How? Marrying one of mori TT friends?

>>22523817
She almost did it for Kisara.

>>22523878
I bet Mori was lying again when she complimented Kiara on her new cover this week.

>>22515474
Even if it was visa shit, shouldn't working for Cover be able to handle said visa shit? Otherwise how is Mori still there when she's not doing her old second job anymore?

>>22516099
yep, this workaholic shit is the biggest joke of them all when it comes to mori. she outsources her work to other people and barely does anything related to her music besides composing lyrics. how hard is that? how many weeks of blood, sweat, and tears does it take to come up with lyrics for 30 songs? she's an utter cringelord and just tells people that she's always busy and working and they believe her.

>>22524039
With Cover's utter incompetence I doubt it. They couldn't even mail a PS5 correctly to her and they're fucking up the 3D suit now too.

>>22523927
Thanks.

Weren't Kiara and Mori close friends before she got deported? It would make sense that they would grow distant, maintaining long distance relationships is hard.

>>22524015
Even Kiara said she didn't like her Cinderela cover. Getting a compliment from mori about it is just weird lol

>>22524039
You keep forgetting Kiara WANTED to go back home. She visited for the year, was basically 5/6ths a wash until Hololive, but she was a tourist first and foremost. She wants to return some time, maybe for longer, but always as a visitor

>>22524039
I don't think it works because I don't think they work directly under them...? It's some weird contract where they are independent with super strict contracts and tie ins to Cover

Kiara pussy. Kfp how do you stop Reine from having sex with Kiara

>>22524430
If that's the case then how does Mori still have a work visa? The teaching programs usually only give you a one year visa and she quit not that long after debut. So unless she's now an illegal immigrant, Cover probably helped her in some way.

But I am just going to go wit Kiara probably got homesick so decided to not renew her visa.

>>22524102
I'm not as cynical as you though. Sure she doesn't have to do a lot regarding the composing and production, but there is still probably is a lot of work, and most is probably related with promotion, voice recording, managing and scheduling. There is a lot of shit that they have to do that we don't even realize, and being in nippon land means that everything needs to be done 3 weeks in advance with 5 in person visits to a physical place, with 20 forms attached and payed in cash.

>>22524707
Maybe it has to do with her other other job.

>>22524695
Nigger, KFP is hard at work making sure it happens

>>22524339
She wanted to go home because her dream of being an idol was crushed because of covid and she missed her cats.
She could do the vtuber thing next to cats in Australia, instead of living alone in Japan probably paying 6 times the rent she is paying now

>>22524773
Don't you know she works at Apple Bitches?

>>22524707
It's not probably, it's a fact. Even after joining Hololive she was still super depressed and missed her cats. She even explained it again this week to Fauna during their collab. She's also said before that she never wants to move back to Japan, just visit for a little while.

>>22524102
Look at other holos working on COVER songs and that by defaulg requires no input from them by default because it's not even their song. Why do they still mention they work hard on them? Because it still takes effort to record and plan them them, among other things like art direction. Writing lyrics isn't as simple as putting words to a paper the same as writing books isn't just scribbling. It takes time to brainstorm that. You can argue all you want about the quality of her writing but it doesn't mean there wasn't any effort to it.

>>22516974

>>22525092
The plan was to go back home to visit every few months but with the coff it meant that if she left once she couldn't come back

>>22525385
yeah and RMT was supposed to visit her in Japan too.

>>22511488
Moris too good for Kiara
Mori crying like a pathetic retard for being a shit friend to Kiara says otherwise cuckbeat.

I really hope Kiara isn't too much of a retard to trust Mori again.

>>22511488
>When will deadbeats accept that she’s too good for Mori?
FTFY

>>22526832
I wish but she's way too forgiving. All those stories about Uber drivers being dogshit and she still gives them 4 stars...

>>22527121
I read in another thread she has trust issues, if that's true then Mori's fucked.

>>22527487
Havent seen that thread but I have zero sympathy for Mori. She chose to ghost Kiara and she has to deal with the consequences.

>>22527487
Lurk more. Mori try invited herself to austria but Kiara doesn't want her. Mori is dense enough tho

>>22513859
touch grass

>>22515886
obsessed

>>22530211
the difference between her reactions to the reaper and the others visiting her was hilarious

>>22532013
>Planning Ame and Mumei visit in June
>Stressful since she also has plans with Reine in May off country
>Also has to prepare for big birthday event.
>Goes to mori birthday call in despite being treated like shit by her all the time.
>"Surprise I'm coming to visit you in June"
>No mention of this before
>No planning
>Kiara now has to accommodate her schedule to include mori, which is probably going to clash with plans she already had to spend time with another person that is visiting.

Mori why...

>>22532757
She already said Mori's visit is overlapping with someone's. Which is a shame, since it'd be cool for her first meeting with someone to, you know, be about that person, not +Mori.

>>22533475
Yeah. Not looking forward to the inevitable off collab stream with Mori.

>>22532757
half-hoping Mori cancels once she realizes Kiara's apartment won't have any alcohol.

>>22534150
Kiara will likely buy some for her just to be a good host. And if not, Mori will buy some for herself. We're talking about a woman who feels accomplished when she goes 2 days without drinking anon, she's NOT gonna see the pantry be alcohol-free and simply take it.

>>22534481
>mori crashes kiara's pad
>drinks the three days worth of alcohol that kiara bought for her in a single day
>gets really mood swingy, alternating between berating kiara for being a horrible friend, crying about how she herself fucked up in japan, and making unwanted advances on her
>kiara goes into a sobbing mess because mori's acting exactly like her abusive drunken stepfather she has alluded to
How likely is this rrat?

>>22535030
Very unlikely, mori's too much a little bitch for that, most thing she'll do even if drunk is be passive agressive and petty.

Kiara is the kind of annoying needy friend that no one wants to have around

Can you fuckers not gossip about two girls who are friends and coworks for one day?

Are these takamori threads made by bots? Every post is nearly word for word lifted from a previous takamori thread. Or do you guys just not have anything better to do?

>>22524695
>he doesn't know both generals are trying to get them to unironically fuck each other

>>22536769
One of them is a shit coworker and a shit friend, so eh. She also gets a hard on from the idea of people shitting on her on boards and probably anonymously tries to "own the trolls" (on her own words) anyways.

>>22535030
pomus visit will overlap with moris
ntr intensifys

>>22538481
I would never forgive Mori for runing Pomutori

>>22512127
Do you think Mori actually misses Kiara, or does she just miss having someone, a genmate, who worshipped the ground she walked?

>>22524695
...Stop?

>>22524695
why would we sop them ?

>>22524695
You Dont

>>22514745
>>22514938
to be fair, all their recent public interactions (not much anyway, since they're not joined at the hip anymore due to the takamori bit and being the only ones together in japan, their interactions became really far and few between - which is probably good, for both of them), Kiara has been rather professional - I don't want to say "distant", but she certainly sounds very "over her" and there is not a lot of emotional investment noticeable and they just talk like normal acquaintances. If Kiara was ever actually hurt by Mori, she certainly seems to have dealt with it by now and wisened up to what to expect from Mori and how to handle her (even somewhat rebuffed her when Mori is the one getting mushy now), plus with her having more/better connections to other Holomems now, her "dependancy" on Mori being her only/best friend in Holo is much less /non-existant now

>>22524695
>stop
If anything, it's the opposite.

>>22539956
She misses Kiara.
If she wants a bootlicker, shehas Gura.
If she wants a pussy licker, she has Hajime
But Kiara clearly was a geniune friend to her, and she took her for granted and pushed her away with indifference and selfishness.
Fuck Mori. Love Kiara.

>>22513859
You have to understand.
That's how she treats her friends.
Now if we're talking abour FRIENDS, she'll mindlessly defend their fuckups, do multiple collabs with them even if her audience disapproves of them, and will cancel TTrpg streams so she can play TTrpgs with them.
Please understand, she's autistic, she did nothing wrong, coner was right, she's a workaholic, she's on rehab and whatever cope cuckbeats use to defend her nowadays.

>>22539956
I don't think Kiara ever worshipped Calli, she admired her hard word, and she was clingy, but she wasn't worshipping her, but clearly with the recent evidence, Mori miss her a lot (or is very good at doing lip service), but I'm not sure it's reciprocated
https://streamable.com/6qb5z6
https://youtu.be/WcvGVVwIRfk?t=8521
https://streamable.com/ii62uy

>>22548973
Just check their twitter. Kiars used to simp Mori to death, but nowadays it's just radio silence.
Even on the milestones Kiars might leave a single message but feels like it's out of obligation and not friendship. Fuckin Amelia has shown more interest in Mori.
And other than gen collabs, only time they've collabed was GayNeko ad stream, and we know how well that turned out.
Hell, remember when Mori dropped the surprise big bomb that she's visit Kiara irl? And her response was to quickly disregard it. On the other hand, she was all emotional with the prospect of Ame and Mumei visiting.
If their twitter interactions reflect their relationship, Kiara is over Mori, and she's better off for it. Hope the bridges are never rebuilt.

>>22539956
She might miss someone taking care of her, wouldn't put it past Kiara to cook for her and shit like that
Now she gets nothing but take-out and it shows

>>22551356
>mori dumped qt austrian cosplayer gf for a manlet
God I hate Mori so much, I'd give anything just to snort Kiara's ovums.

>>22514745
>girls like Kiara are addicted to girls like Mori
Are you retarded, Anon? Kiara absolutely hates it when her affection isn't returned which is one of the reasons she killed takamori in the first place. She also doesn't interact with Mori outside of collabs anymore and rarely mentions her. Try watching actual streams instead of clips.

>>22539956
She does not miss Kiara, she missing someone actually giving a shit about her.

>>22539956
I think she misses someone that genuinely worries about her wellbeing, that was Kiara before she left Japan. That's why she told Kiara "it's not the same" when the other named the people she can interact with in Japan. It seems like Kiara was the only one willing to slap Mori silly if she was being too retarded for her own good. For Mori, Kiara was a true friend while the rest are just bootlickers.

>>22525385
That's like one think that always threw me off about Kiara.
She talked a lot about her family being broke and eating bread that bakery throws off at the end of the day.
But then she also spend multiple years in Japan almost with no income and still planned to fly back and force every few month because she missed cats?

>>22552782
>She talked a lot about her family being broke
She never said that retard. It was about her when she was just starting as an independent person.

>>22539956
No, she misses not being surrounded by clout chasing retards. Kiara was probably the only person in Japan that was honest to her.

>>22551887
nta, I guess he might be alluding to the trope of clingy/desperate girls falling for "bad boys" (or in this case, girl) who treat them like shit which makes them only simp for them harder out of some combination of "I can fix him!" saviorfag syndrome, low self-esteem, and having no one else to dump their affection on.

Which might be a real thing for some people out there, but in this specific situation with these two specific people is a pretty hard misread and doesn't really apply.

more like kiara is too good for her, cuckbeat

>>22552976
And that's why Mori is awful

>>22512127
based.

>>22552976
>she misses not being surrounded by clout chasing retards
No she doesn't. If she really did she would've broke off TT already, not expand her connection with them to roommate.

>>22553301
Doesn't necessarily mean she realizes it. The two things that are certain is that she misses Kiara and that Kiara's defining character trait is that she's brutally honest and has no filter.

>>22553410
never forget that the second after mori lied about TT directly apologizing to holo mems kiara said she had never even spoken to connor LOL

>>22553629
Oh yeah that happened kek. Mori is such a cunt.

>>22553629
>>22553794
nta but what I want to know is how much of that was her vs connor. I could see a scenario where connor says he already apologized for it and he meant on twitter or on stream as a sorry kidding but not kidding apology, and her retard brain interpreted that as he personally apologized to the holomem directly, or if she just made it up to cover for him and he just pretended to not notice and thought it could pass until Kiara nuked her from orbit.

>>22554064
>she just made it up to cover for him
it appears it was this. but nobody believed it so someone asked kiara if she's ever even spoken to the TT guys and she flatly said "no."

>>22553301
The Mori-TT relationship is transactional on both sides, and both sides probably realize it or at least think they have something to gain by using the other (I wouldn't even call it leeching or clout chasing per se, since it's not a situation where a clearly inferior person is sucking up to a clearly superior one, and depending on what metrics you use it's difficult to determine who is "bigger" between Mori and TT).

TT's motive for schmoozing up to Mori is obvious, vtubers are the new hot thing in the weebosphere, so for reaction-and-commentary dudes like TT (since they don't really produce any original content and only talk about / showcase other stuff that is currently hip) what better way to stay relevant than to have an "in" with the most popular vtuber agency right now, which gets you the attention of their massive fanbase and some access to their inner circle.

But Mori is not just a hapless exploited victim here either, for what it's worth TT has a fanbase itself that provided her a not-insignifcant further boost from her appearance in the beginning, and similarly to how she's TT's "anchor" to Hololive, they are her first access to the exclusive club of her favorite twitch ecelebs that she wants to cultivate relationships for if (when?) she finally thinks she had enough of that cringe anime idol gig bullshit and wants to realize her true dream of being invited to stream as herself with Charlie or whatever

>>22554064
It was a discord message to Mori saying "Sorry. I didn't mean it." or something, then Mori took it as a proper apology. Basically, she tried white lie herself out of a dumb situation and nobody would care if Kiara didn't say anything. But tank goodness she did because it's fucking hilarious.

>>22554317
Is this like your personal rrat or are you talking about something Mori actually said?

>>22554603
I believe her when she said Connor apologized but he did not apologize to the extend she claimed he did. She sugar coated it.

>>22554603
nta, but iirc (if someone has a better recollection of the whole arc, please correct me with timestamps etc) the whole stupid drama was part of the general Connor-Cuckbeat episode. Connor said some things about Hololive/talents (you know, basically "once you're in you've made it, you don't need talent" etc. which obviously can be taken negatively, if not outright intended as such). People in Mori's chat/SC's confronted her about it, she got indignant (and the fact that she seemed to care more about defending Connor from "attacks" (being held to his own words) instead of actually defending her Hololive mates didn't endear her further to people who already questioned where her true loyalties lie) and said something like "nuh-uh stop it, he already apologized to us privately!". Coincidentally around the same time Kiara confirmed that she has no contact with the TTguys, so people have been arguing about what that "apology" then actually meant, for example that Connor just apologized (or more like "explained", since he doesn't think he said anything wrong) to Mori alone, obviously, but she accepted it "on behalf" of the whole of Hololive or whatever, and in her mind that should have been good enough and solved the issue, or whether there was actually any apology at all and it wasn't just another poorly exposed impromptu attempt by Mori to talk herself out of a sticky situation

>>22536769
she basically acts like family

shes annoying and needy, but when youve pushed her out, you are incredibly lonely and miss being cared about.

thats literally what mori did btw. she thought she was annoying and needy, and now she doesn't have anyone in japan that worries for her, and cries on camera.

Someone should recreate this cuck meme, but its Reine fuckin Kiara

and Mori crying with a boner.

You guys think that cover will do some internal mediating between the two or step in to prevent any drama should calli spiral out of control?

>>22555845
no. Unlike Mori, Kiara can be an adult and behave.

Unless Mori starts to harass Kiara, Kiara will just keep being the adult and take the hits to avoid drama.

>>22555845
>internal mediating between the two
there is no drama between the two. Kiara is doing fine, and their interactions have been cordial. And whatever goes on backstage, they are more likely to simply just ghost each other than be actually fighting with each other.
>should calli spiral out of control?
If Mori "spirals out of control", the reason will not be Kiara. You could maybe make the argument that it would be "lack of Kiara" instead, but as to not overstate her importance, make it just "lack of positive influence" instead, and that position could be filled by anyone else besides Kiara, who shouldn't be burdened with having to be Mori's personal tardwrangler forever. Mori has other Holomems in Japan now she could lean (heh..) on for moral support, if she doesn't and wants to be a retarded bitch instead, that's on her

>>22512916
I mean Enna is a deadbeat, so yeah they really are Nijisisters

>>22555845
>prevent any drama should calli spiral out of control
Cover doesn't need to do shit cause Kiara can manage that by herself. She already went on the right direction by putting space between her and Mori months ago.

>>22511488
i can't watch eithers stream cause they make me cringe, but at least i can watch the orange one sing without cringing so thats already puts her ahead of the wigger for me

Just imagine Kiara, who can't even stand the smell of alcohol, having to stand next to mori in a offcollab karaoke, almost puking from smelling mori's putrid cocktail breath.
No wonder she left Japan, she probably had to drag mori from the floor to her bed every night they were together.

Every night:
>You sure you don't want to drink some wine Kiara?
>Guh
>I sure love Shrek and Adam Sandler.

>>22559760
imagine mori stinking drunk enough to be lesbian, and and forces Kiara to engage in sex while shes trying to tuck mori in bed

>>22559760
hot

>>22559760
kek

>>22559946
>Implying Kiara could eat mori's cunt with all that aclhool drenched pussy juice

>>22554136
You looking too deep into it. She is in Japan while barely coherent in Japanese, she leached to TT because it's bunch of white dudes in similar circumstances and whole antituber antiques resonates with her. Similar might've happened with Kiara if she was not though-the-bone idolfag.

>>22561707
of course that's part of it. Expats (especially in a racially homogenic and xenophobic country like Japan) tend to clump together, part of it by convenience (don't have to learn the language, can hang with someone who understands you culturally), part of it by necessity (it's kinda hard/impossible to make actual close japanese friends, especially when you yourself don't make any efforts to integrate, and even then it's a crapshoot).
I've seen enough tales of people getting lazy (or justifying their own laziness by "they'll never accept me anyways, so why bother...") and stay stuck in the comfy expat bubble, all the while just bitching about the backwards ways of their host country (then why are you here in the first place, retard?) and how it should change to be more like [the home country they left in the first place], most prevalent in white americans because of their innate karen attitude.

>Similar might've happened with Kiara if she was not though-the-bone idolfag.
If Kiara was not an idolfag, she wouldn't have gone to Japan in the first place. She at least speaks japanese well enough to not be condemned to having her only circle of friends there being stuck in the salty expat bubbles.

i just want kiara to be happy she seems like the absolute nicest of the 5 myth members (6 if you want to count irys)

Why the fuck is this thread still alive? No need to bump a shitty thread over and over with your essays. You want to write fanfics, go fucking write one and I'll read it. That's a promise.

>>22562310
TT also provides an invaluable “pipeline” from Hololive to her roommate persona, that most importantly, is outside the control of Hololive management.
This is far more effective than any dox channel or accidental namedrop and allows her to grow her rm channel along Hololive the most effective out of her gen

>>22562753
thx for the bump I almost missed this thread

>>22562929
The Bartnigger above me bumped this thread, not me.

Reminder that Mori just got stood up by Bae.
Bae.
>Bae.
FUCKING Bae.
Easily the biggest unityfag in EN. The one who loves and shills everyone. The one who tries to participate in everything. The one who got totsu'd by the entire fucking company. The one who started the currently biggest ship in EN just because she didn't want IRyS to feel out of place due to being a solo debutee who mostly kept to herself.
The Bae who has always been a c9re member of Mori's new clique' despite not being a deadbat or living in Japan (like IRyS).
This is how you know Pink Wuman deserves nothing, she's 2 for 2 on getting dumped by unityfags.
Maybe 3 for 3, I only watch Ollie semi-regularly but I haven't heard her mention Mori at all, and she's the second biggest unityfag after Polka... who also never interacts with Mori.

>>22563000
cry about it

>>22563082

Looks like kfp got trolled once again into defending Kiara and trying to make Mori look bad. Great job guys.

Now go play Kiara's new song over and over again so she can feel like she did a great job.

>>22563440
>trying to make Mor look bad
>trying
She literally does it entirely by herself. People just bring up her greatest hits on these threads, cuckbeat.

>>22563440
I don't need to be a kfp to shit on Mori cuckbeat. Any reasonable person who loves hololive will hate on the wigger whore.

>>22511488
Kiara is too good for Mori

>>22563440
>trying to make Mori look bad
That's 90% Mori's doing tho. Maybe tell your whore to stop being retarded for once lmao

>>22563440
>KFP are the ones hating on Mori
Not true, but they are gangbanging your mom though

>>22563726
KEK

>>22563440
Go back to your split deadbrap. This is not a safe space for you :}

>>22563726
KEK

>>22562862
>allows her to grow her rm channel along Hololive the most effective out of her gen
while this is true, and that's why it's mutually beneficial for both Mori AND TT on a pure business level, even if you discount the human level, to hang out with each other. But in the brapper's "defense", she's able to grow her rm channel the most effective out of her gen, exactly because she's pretty much the ONLY one doing it (so it's not like we have much to compare her against).

She's the only one that has a still active public alternate/past persona, that she still tries to push and keep alive with more work output like rm music, merch, streams etc. It's not even just so that you could reasonably say "oh she's just laying the groundwork of a golden parachutefor when she eventually ditches Hololive later", she's basically doing the active double-life stuff right now even.
The others don't really. Gura pretty much took a clean break and shows no signs or any inclination to go back again, even just as a little side-gig, Ame basically the same, she had like what, only a few tweets on her alt in over a year. Ina is arguable, she was a pro illustrator before and she still does side-jobs occasionally, though unlike Mori it's less arguable that she is using Hololive to just siphon fans away to herself (for an illustrator, her actual customers are the companies that commission her, not individual fans who buy her music or donate to her). Kiara also doesn't really do anything on the scale of Mori, she's not releasing new music or new videos or whatever under her rm persona (she has an active twitter, but that's mostly just for posting her cat pics etc., nothing really business wise).

So Mori is the only one who actually wants to become famous "as herself" and is continuing her own output despite Hololive, arguably using the audience and clout she gained for her personal gain. Whether you think that's good or bad (as a Hololive fan, not a Mori fan), I can at least admit that it makes sense from a business perspective for her, even though I may not like it

>>22563042
Spoonfeed me, what did she do. I don't like rrat enough to suffer though her collabs with m*ri.

>>22563440
Mori not only did it to herself, she even acknowledged it. Come up with new cope, deadcuck.

>>22563877
Didn't show up to mori's english learning collab with Lui and Chloe due to "certain personal issues"

https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1515324631565369346

>>22564215
kek

>>22524707
>>22524903
>but I am just going to go with something I made the fuck up
meds.
>>22524339
>for the year
she was there longer than that, newfag-kun. do your reps.
>>22526948
well of course a phoenix is too good for death.
but yes, kiara is too good for calliope, regardless.
>>22550742
this.
>>22551287
>kiars
?

>>22562696
me too man me too

>>22563832
tldr

>>22568842
tldr Mori is shit

>>22569063
tell me something new

>>22569535
shes even shittier than you expected

>>22569563
That´s actually true

>>22563605
This

>>22564215
>>22563877
she was massively hungover and throwing up after getting drunk during karaoke yesterday.

>>22569563
she's gets worse every time I hear something new. has she really started trying to get others to drink with her?

>>22574649
yeah she is attempting to corrupt irys

>>22574864
FUCK NO
THIS PISSES ME OFF LIKE NOTHING ELSE

IRyS is one of the purest there, I can't fathom her acting like a wigger. I will kill mori.

>>22574864
Going down the mori pipeline...

>>22513859
I think Mori doesn't really know what actual friendship looks like because all her life her "friendships" were really more like transactional relationships of convenience. ie. I hang out with this artist because I can get something out of it and he probably gets something out of interacting with me.
Now she did a shocked pikachu face when they all "cast her out" because she hit it big and they were jelly, and then proceeded to form more transactional "friendships" with the clout chasers at TT.

On a side note she just doesn't seem to have a problem with lying, even lying to someone's face.

>>22564215
Thats all? Weak rrat
>>22575149
>pure
>yabairys

>>22576847
>literally quoting a tweet
>"rrat"
ESL

>>22576995
I mean that rrat that she canceled because she hates mori. The esl part is true though lol

>>22576847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a49P7xPgvgk

>>22577089
ah, though mori isn't worth an actual rrat

Kiara is too high maintenance for her. And Mori is too much of a bad friend for her. They are incompatible, and I hope Kiara can find love in Reine.

I used to hate both Kiara and Mori, but years later and now I only hate Mori, Kiara has grown a lot and while her voice is still annoying, she's at least a good watch

Takamori gets more depressing the more they reveal stuff. Kiara admitted recently that mori was the one she felt closest to in the beginning and that she always saw them as a team. She felt isolated from gura and ame since they were closer ro each other and saw ina as a neutral party. Knowing that makes the way moribtreated her even sadder. Mori made her cry and always treated her like she was forced to spent time with her. She told everybody on stream that she liles collabing with other people more. The only good thing is that kiara also said that she now has found a place with the holobirds and other en but just think about what it must have felt like for kiara when she found out thatvshe is the least favorite collab partner of the girl the liked the most. I hope kiara isn't insecure enough to fall for moris act again now that mori is trying to get closer to kiara again

>>22580813
I think you are forgetting that Kiara speaks fluent Japanese and could talk to any JP in Hololive, where Ame, Ina, Gura, and Mori were pretty much stuck only taking to each other. Kiara had many more options in the beginning and chose to blow them all by being selfish.

>>22511488
Mori only wanted to drop Takamori because it wasn't generating the numbers/interest they'd hoped. Everything is about money with her - it always annoyed me that Kiara was labelled the numberfag, when Mori is just as bad. Kiara got over it, but you still have that loathsome reaper cunt gloating on twitter, "wowww guys, already a million views? That was so FAST", rubbing it in the faces of girls like Watame who struggle to hit 200k on their original songs

>>22581103
>Ofriends
>Formed holotori with subaru
>Hang out with marine
>did an off-collab and hugged Matsuri
>Lived with jenma for a while
She got close to many people, but she was closer to calli which is understandable considering they come from similar background in japan so they could relate to each other

>>22581103
Do your reps. Nene literally wants to get a passport just to visit Kiara since she can't get a visa to enter Japan... She has friends in HoloJP.

>>22581103
2/10 bait

Only /vt/ can come up with an entire backstory and history and assumptions about behind the scenes during a 5 minute interaction. Actually baffling how schizophrenic some of you are.

>>22515886
>Signing with UMG
>Making an album, an EP, and singles
>Planning 3D concert
>Working on and being featured in songs by Suisei and Amalee
>Roommate producing EP's and planning concerts and tours

I really hope this is just bait because if it's not it just shows all you read is hate on /vt/ and care to do little research.

>>22580813
to be fair, takamori were only together by circumstance and convenience of being the only two in japan at the time. If they were random strangers instead of coworkers, they most likely wouldn't be friends at all, as they are very much opposite in terms of personality (Kiara being more social and bubbly, Mori being more of an autist and dudebro) and interests (Kiara being an idolfag, Mori being a wigger rapper who cares more about "keeping it real" and has admitted on looking down on idols before), with the only thing they shared being two white girls stranded in japan pursuing their different dreams but failing so far - and that thing can only take you so far and is alone not enough to form a lasting connection, see how as soon as they separated whatever flimsy bond they had in Japan was pretty much over as well.

>I hope kiara isn't insecure enough to fall for moris act again now that mori is trying to get closer to kiara again
Nah. She's not really the battered housewife type, and whatever Mori's meager advances are, Kiara seems pretty over and done with her shit and not in a hurry to ever get emotionally invested in her again when she knows enough by now that it's not worth reciprocating anymore. She's friendly and all, like a normal colleague, but now that she has more people to spend her affection on she rather focuses on those who don't treat her like shit.

>>22574864
Irys already drinks dude

>>22554879
for all we know mori said "u should apologize" connor said "ok i did", then mori thought that was that and didn't go to every member of hololive saying "did connor apologize to you?" because that'd just be weird af.

>>22515886
I am very impressed people are still trotting these out. The antis baiting other antis is basically its own ecosystem at this point. People who come to vt to argue about something they don't even watch or really care about. Fascinating. I actually really appreciate that you guys keep it mostly in these bait threads now so I only have to hear about Mori if I force myself to come here.

>>22582313
Calli anti's already got btfo'd so they are reaching for scraps with anything they can get and now it's automatically assuming about what other people's relationships are with each other behind the scenes with the context being a few couple minute clips here and there out of context.

>>22582313
Stating that Mori was a shit friend to Kiara is not bait.

>>22515886
>5%
Qrd?

>>22582165
for all we know Mori sucked Connors dick and agrees with him and only defends him and not her coworkers

>>22582508
It's 100% true and also bait. No one actually cares.

>>22582136
not to the extent the reaper does. calli was also telling gura how much she looked forward to drinking with her when the shark gets to japan

>>22582758
>No one actually cares.
Then this thread would have no replies.

>>22582508
It is but simple truth.

>>22574864
You can see Irys's started to change, she sounds hungover all the time now.

kiara is hot

Holy fuck if this was actually just bait and not another schizophrenic nijisperg anti again I was autistic enough to spend the past 20 minutes figuring out wtf I missed only to find out it boiled down to both of them not wanting to keep forcing the Takamori ship and just be able to do their own things independently and they're still friends.

>>22583822
its an autistic debate on who is the worse friend

>>22583822
>they're still friends
Mori crying like a pathetic reatrd says otherwise anon.

>>22584090
God you’re retarded

>>22584090
Ironic you say she was crying like a pathetic retard when she was happy for her friend and said should've messaged her more when you're a pathetic retard crying on /vt/ about assuming the relationship behind scenes of two animated png avatars.

>>22584346
>>22584383
>Cuckbeats can't see the wrongdoings of their whore
Sad

>>22584753

Mori and Kiara meeting again will be a very nice moment for both of them. Hopefully a reminder that despite being very different, they do get along well and should stay in contact more despite distance.

>>22584346
>>22584383
But that's exactly what happened? She cried because she was a cunt to Kiara, she said so herself. Stop coping

>>22584853
Should you really dab on yourself like that, Anon? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll find a girlfriend one day.

>>22584346
>>22584383
>>22583822
>>22584853
Great cuckbeat squad have arrived, shields at the ready to begin deflection

>>22584853
Point proven

>>22584917
Stay seething while my oshi succeeding.

Oh, the BLACK Twitter SJW nijisisters are ITT. Yikies.

>>22584952
They're gonna create another Kiara hate thread, just watch.

>>22585030
Yeah like every holo.

>>22585049
>TL: *I* will create another Kiara anri thread and then pretend to be a Deadbeat in it
Funny that there is so much batching about Mori and/or Kiara in multiple threads but they all have relatively low IP counts. Or multiple bait threads appear close together. Almost like it's the same individual(s) going thread to thread...

>>22585186
Yeah, a bunch of seething Cuckbeats.

>>22585103
Yeah, they're all preddy gud.

>>22585186
It's unironically the same 5-10 people who make post everyday and make stuff. It's actually wild.

>>22585263
You're a cuck? Damn, and I thought being a Deadbeat was bad. Thanks for making me feel better about myself. :}

>>22585440
Play dumb all you want, Cuckbeat. Everyone knows about you and yours, and there's not a single thing you can do about it.

>>22511488
When Kiara accepts the offer to join the front lines in Ukraine.

>>22585362
That's what I'm noticing. That or they all pull from the same very limited dictionary because I see the same complaints and insults in all of them, and the same pessimistic interpretations of words/events that clearly aren't realistic.
Wouldn't say it's coordinated (no proof, at least) but they definitely feed off and encourage each other. While trying to claim they speak for a majority.

>>22551287
>Fuckin Amelia has shown more interest in Mori

Wait am I out of the loop? Do Calli and Ame have some kind of weird beef or relationship? I mean, I''ve noticed that Ame does seem to collab the least out of the Myth girls. And often when she does she is much more reserved. Is Ame not well liked?

>>22511488
Nigger kys