/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22548890
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

two seconds, god damn it rannianon how do you do it?

https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1515264715848818694
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1515264715848818694
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1515264715848818694

So, even if they are bringing it back, it has to be on their own streaming site, right?
There's no way they try this on YT again

For those who missed, first half of April ranking of median of peak CCV (3 streams or more)

>>22503167 :: top 50
>>22503957 :: 1k+
>>22505843 :: whole list
>>22506597 :: “minor” companies
>>22507037 :: Niji only
>>22507546 :: Holostars vs. NijiJP-NijiEN

>>22549012
I don't think the world is ready for Pekora swimsuit

aqua 70k

>>22548873
>just like holostar became part of hololive
They are not merged anon, they are subgroup under "hololive Production" not under "hololive"
This is more like "Nijisanji SEEDS" merged into the main nijisanji branch and becoming just "nijisanji"

Akutan 70k

BESTO MEIDO

>>22549111
>>22549174
Today's gold I presume?

>>22549099
Imagine Gura Swimsuit

Man i want apex to be over already.
It becomes a views blackhoke for tge others

>>22549012
Could you imagine the number for the swimsuit reveal streams for the girls who don't have them

>>22549119
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>22549119
I think it's still fair to call them ID vtubers and include them on tallies no matter what branch they're in though

>>22549209
yes, 32K currently above silver, don't see how anything passes it, since hal and kuzuha are on the same numbers they've had the last few days

>>22549209
kek, I can only imagine what would take for an otherwise unannounced stream to steal a 70k gold.
Maybe some chuuba killing herself on stream

>>22549260
>Using wikipedia as source

holy shit, Gorilla is out for blood today

>>22549209
Yeah nothing can beat Aqua Apex now
No wonder so many Vtuber play Apex, the viewerpool for Apex in JP is GIGANTIC and it's basically free numbers

>>22549259
Which Holo doesn't have swimsuit yet that CAN bring number?
Also, consider swimsuit is not part of the mainline 3D (The default/Idol skins), can we have some EN/ID girl to have their swimsuit 3D?

>>22549209
I still have not recovered from Hazuha's slip yesterday. He was given a gold plate and threw it.

>>22549012
>There's no way they try this on YT again
Maybe Twitch

>>22549293
>using "dude, trust me" as a source

>>22549340
Myth 3D swimsuits would destroy all 3D debut records

The difference between 1st and 6th team.

>>22549388
Gorilla too strong Hal give him 2 literal shackle

>>22549388
Rating vs Hunting

>>22549314
Yet the vast majority of players in the tournament have fewer viewers than their median right now

oh no, she took all the fujos away from him

>>22549209
seeing these numbers cover should debut one or two good fps players for their next gen

King…

>>22549012
Might be why theyre pushing twitch so much. Swimsuits should be fine there if shit like Veibaes new outfit is fine

>>22549485
Big viewer pool but they only latched to the best players lol

>>22549388
which one get more point?

>>22549388
How's the placement point again? What round is this? If this is 4/5th round, StartEnd should have 13 pts, no?

>>22549388
so that's why apexfags prefer Aquas pov, its far more interesting to watch

>>22549209
Unless we get some guerrilla Vox dildo unboxing stream

>>22549314
Pekora must be seething right now that she's stuck with a crap game like Elden Ring and didn't sign up for the APEX tourney instead.

>>22549260
The same thing you are, it seems. Holostars are under "Hololive Productions"; which ended up absorbing Holostars and INNK to become pretty much the only vtuber agency under Cover.

Inside Hololive productions there are two groups right now

1) Hololive
>With over 50,000,000 fans across all their channels, VTuber group hololive is the all-female talent group that belongs to the VTuber agency hololive production.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/about

2) Holostars
>HOLOSTARS is an all-male VTuber group under hololive production that began in June 2019.
>They stream Let’s Plays, produce cover song videos, as well as create original music on YouTube.
https://holostars.hololivepro.com/en/about

Anycolor just went the opposite direction and absorbed their ID and KR branch into their main branch. Now they only have two branches
>Nijisanji
>Nijisanji EN

With NijiID and NijiKR having been rolled into Nijisanji proper

>>22549267
Re:act's qu qualia who's Thai was included in Jp tally, nationality don't matter. It's which branch in which company they are in that matters. Let's just say HoloEn gen 3 have an Indonesian chuuba, you include her in EN tally not the ID one

>>22549471
excuse the gorilla, he has one disabled baby in each hand

>>22549280
Mysta onegai..

>>22547289
did anyone care enough to read all that shit? is there a tl;dr?

>>22549471
>Hunting
They didn't hunt for shit, they were literally camping the entire game, watch the stream first

>>22549504
I thought you fags said earlier this month (when Korbo was still in debut buff) that HoloEN would never lose to NijiID? Well?

>>22549314
>GIGANTIC
though you have to be as entertaining as aqua to pull those tourist

>>22549452
And he still a big chance to win
Gorilla can make newbie become a good player like Hoshikawa

>>22549471
Gorilla has to carry weight heavier than Sui, please understand.

>>22549012
The only reason it's dead is because of Susan, they still use it a ton in their marketing.

>>22549485
Aqua slurped all the viewers

>>22549647
>there's no number mention on Holostars
top kek

>>22549708
This is...well, there's a truth to it yes, but Aqua also crafted a very compelling NARRATIVE to go alongside it, even if not entirely by choice (since she failed her Solomas last year).

>>22549785
They're not dumb, are they?

>>22549383
Especially Mamaloni doing the designs.

Onn another note, what if everyone got swimsuit for their live2d and another for their 3D? Myth could end up with three pairs
1. swimsuit for their L2D,
2. official 3D swimsuits
3. swimsuits for heir unofficial 3D

>>22549699
Guess this is the day a pig grow wings

>>22549652
There's no such thing as a JP tally here, it's the overall tally which includes everyone. And similarly there's no such thing as Niji JP, it's just Nijisanji.

Remember when HoloEN used to win EN gold? Yeah, me neither

>>22549805
and that's what it makes it entertaining

>>22549507
hololive gamers(proper)

>>22549647
so nijiID is pretty much like hololiveID then......

>>22549504
Et tu, Mika? Nijis will never let a King reign in their company.

>>22549805
The strength of hololive is in the stories they build.
They're very easy to build and spread among both fans and non-fans.
And of course, when the box hears about one of theirs riding a story, they will show up in force.
t. someone who never watched Aqua before this but has watched all her tourney streams live.

>>22549383
imagine being this delusional

>>22549507
>seeing these numbers cover should debut one or two good fps players for their next gen
>>22549896
>hololive gamers(proper)
Only if they're dumb. Wasn't this the exact strategy Nijisanji went with Edengumi, Lauren and Leos?

>>22549682
he already addressed it anyway
https://twitter.com/uki_violeta/status/1515315836160024587

>>22549938
t. seething last samurai

>>22549841
It just semantic.
My point still remains they should not be included in the ID one

rpr raking in the towa buff in numbers too

>>22549915
>so nijiID is pretty much like hololiveID then......
Nope, that was what NijiID was before. Now they're more like what Sana and Bae (and Haachama) are for HoloEN, they share the geographic region they live but other than that, they're part of the branch they got assigned

>>22549953
2 to 3 people won't do much harm. plus they will always have the box to fall back on should it go south

>>22550030
I genuinely see ZERO benefit for Hololive to do anything different from what they're already doing. What benefit would it bring to have a "gamers" gen if they did away with the whole idea of Gamers being a thing when the border between "sing and dance chuuba" and "gaming chuuba" vanished mid 2020?

>>22550028
so it's pretty much like holostar then........

>>22550030
Relying on ine game is dumb. You never know if something will replace it.

>>22550046
What's with Pakael? He's some sort of "one shot one kill" sniper or something?

>>22550182
He just fucks dudes.

>>22549938
Gura 2nd outfit had destroy all outfit and 3d reveal records

>>22550171
Holostars are an entirely different group under the same agency. NijiID are not a different group anymore, they got rolled into the main group.

>Winner of Apex Musume gets 100k yen per person
Literally spare change

Gorilla winning the tournament is the same as Hololive winning the tournament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LvA9DQqsHQ

>>22550171
No, more like
Nijisanji Seeds, nijisanji gamers and Hololive gamers

>>22550180
thats why you focus on getting a good fps player instead of a good apex player

>>22549997
I think it’s really endearing that despite him being connected with every big apex star, he’s here watching his oshi play and gives no fucks what people think.

>>22550286
GORI-KUN CONFIRMED FOR HONORARY HOLO!

>>22550286
UUUOOOHHHH!!! GORILLA!!!

>>22550273
Is the shitposting that matters in the end, no matter who wins

>>22550122
>>22550180
gaming idols. they can sing and dance plus they can compete in games, not necessarily apex only. think botan but there are 2 of them

>>22550333
Is the same shit.

>>22550122
I mean at least the EN branch could use some good gamers to fill a niche since all of the current ones suck at games.

>>22550273
Well Aqua and Towa already earned that much.

>>22550030
>2 to 3 people won't do much harm. plus they will always have the box to fall back on should it go south
Would be a change of pace to make Gen 3 a gaming-focused gen. Then they'd have girls that can carry the other girls asses in gaming collabs.

>>22549984
>>22550213
>1st free 3D debut with arguably the second biggest EN
>peaked at 80k
fucking kek

>>22550286
fucking gorilla is such a chad

>>22550430
Huh. Crying on stream generates lots of SC.

>>22550273
They get a bunch of view, clips and some of money. It's better than playing for just bragging right if you win like Marika tournament.

>>22550328 (still me)
I'm not sure about the hololive gamers since I'm not a holofag.
So let me revise it.
"Nijisanji SEEDs" and "nijisanji gamers".
Don't be goblok and just accept it already NijiID is no longer existing.

>>22550437

>Apex race
Who gives a shit? If they were going to do this, at least stick all the racers in the same voice chat so I can call Aqua and Suisei fags cucks.

>>22550437
>3D debut
>already appeared in HoloFes, used 3D in a MV, appeared in Suisei's 3D Live, and used Home 3D in a stream before it
Heck Mori using 3D so much is killing the hype for other EN 3Ds.

suisei my fuckin sides what are you doin

>>22550437
CCVID never left the ENs, last samurai, keep coping.

>>22550626
I wonder if those Digest shorts posted on the Hololive English channel also killed the hype for 3D

>>22550539
nijiID still exist
just like fubuki still under hololive gamers

It looks like niji is finally taking an ID gold!

this is the only chance nijijp has a shot at gold tonight kek

>>22550286
>Vietsub
There's Nguyen amongs Holo fans?

Aqua's viewers are boosting Towa and Suisei CCV hard

>>22550531
>A lot of SC
Noel get 3 times that every time she stream

>>22549931
Reminds me of omniscient readers viewpoint.

>>22550744
Sigh

>>22550380
So you want this theoretical holo Gen to do things current members already do?

>Okayu peaking at 12k for her first Elden Ring stream
Jesus, no wonder so many of them streamed earlier to avoid the APEX scrims. And it's going to be even worse number rape tomorrow.

>>22550819
Kek

>>22550286
>>22550793
https://youtu.be/zsBD66Sa5Yg
why not post the one on Sora's channel? hell, even Nobuhime was here.
fun fact: in a couple of months, Polka will exist longer than Nobuhime.

>>22550414
its not

>>22550889
What the hell is that spike

>>22550959
Apex race pov

Are people really still arguing about NijiID ? Just let them in the tally for God sake, ID tally is the super special Olympics and it's not like Mika is becoming a 16k vtuber, she will be back to 1k by tomorrow, 2k if she is lucky

>>22550725
>>22550626
this amount of cope is just sad ENsharts

>>22550889
>>22550933
I L L E G A L

>>22550889
>>22550933
I... ILLEGAL VIEW SHARING

>>22550959
Aqua's viewers went to watch Suisei's and Towa's pov.

>>22550933
Kek the boost got Towa over the cutoff points for daily tally.

>>22550886
currently, only Towa and festival consistently compete in these events. nothing wrong with wanting 2 more that can participate in these settings

>>22550984
So this is a totally normal ccv to likes ratio, huh

>>22550980
No one is arguing, anon, it's just shitpost
No one here give a shit about the special olympic

just asking to see if someone here follows the clown's numbers and i don't want to bother their split, is it normal for her to buffer a lot? i'm watching cause mayodog is there but the stream is literally having like a 5 sec buffer every other minute

>>22551078
I entered the video without watching, dropped a like and left. Seems normal to me

>>22551078
ASMR is perfect to tab out to, even more so than Karaoke.

>>22550980
Mika will remain at 10k+ viewers.
Holo can kiss the mud on the ground.

>>22551078
It's ASMR...

>>22551019
A Holo that compete in RTS or fighting game would be cool

>>22551121
Happening for a couple of days now

>>22551078
>stream started with 1.6k likes already
yes, this is very normal, fuck off you fucking reject

>>22551144
>>22551182
So do you have any other examples of ASMR streams with this like ratio? Preferably from JP. Hell, I'd even take Nijisanji or Indies

>>22551121
Seems to be a problem with YT. Even some flesh streamers I watch also had this problem.

>>22550889
>>22550933
ILLEGAL

>>22549848
Winning daily gold is all that matters, and Hololive eats niji's lunch there.

>>22551231
>ASMR streams
It's not even a real ASMR, just your usual owl shitpost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmK9HJmZJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmK9HJmZJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVmK9HJmZJg
Get ready bois!

>>22549848
kys

>>22551144
>>22551182
Fucking retards. Wanna guess who the green line is?

>>22549848
>Nijiniggers
>ENgold
Why am I not surprised?

>>22551338
???

this gorilla is something else even if he doesn't get the best numbers

>>22551338
Wrong board?

>>22551198
>>22551235
i see, damn, it's super annoying, thanks for the answers anons

>>22551338
Anon?

>>22551144
>>22551182
>>22551352
Also, might as well just put Noel’s asmr from yesterday here too. So go ahead and try acting like smooth brained fucks and claim people alt tab.

>>22551441
>>22551470
>>22551474
Come on i thought we like it last time?

>>22551338
wrong thread indog

>>22551338
wait thats not brown Anya

https://twitter.com/lasuka_ppi3/status/1515324232875790337

>>22551338
You retard

>>22551352
What's your point?
We know ID+EN viewers are special kinds of fucked, tarred and feathered by Youtube. Unless Cover themselves wants to publicly call out Youtube on this shit nothing will ever change. Not only because, while it may have some minor effect on numbers (tourists looking for the LARGEST STREAMER), the CCV fuckery doesn't affect their bottom lines with Ad revenue/Merch/Sponsorships, since they still get paid according to the real numbers, and they have the real numbers to show sponsors. It is, essentially, howling at the moon while the gods dine on the stars. Inconsequential except on this indian spice-grinding plaza.

Those kill points lmao.

>>22551338
/a/non ...

>>22551500
>Noel
>an actual dedicated ASMR artist
I don't even know why you're comparing her with Mumei's shitpost.

>>22551532
1st - Highest damage (and the round)
2nd - Total damage across all rounds
3rd - Ranking by average damage

>>22551338
>Muse Asia
Stop posting things in the wrong thread and board you low IQ SEA monkey, never post here again

So Miko is collabing with Laplus, is this YMD's first 1 on 1 collab outside her gen?

>>22551583
That's what's going to be the great equalizer for Aqua's team. They might not necessarily get to above 5th place, but if they murder half the lobby on the way there in the last few rounds they can clinch a win.

>>22551661
Towa...
It's also a drinking collab

>>22551560
Except smug last samurais try to lord it over everyone using those numbers pretending that their shitters are more popular.

I need koboo

>>22551661
Not even close

>>22551661
Shion......

>>22551661
She had a bunch early on, like that one kusoge where you're a child trying to kill your grandma with Mike's past life, some shion stuff, etc

>>22551661
??????????????????????????????????????????Did you already forget about Shion and Towa?

>>22551699
>smug last samurais try to lord it over everyone
Well, they're bigger than everybody else so...

>>22550980
I'm the ID tally making anon, and just a heads up I'll include NijiID into my tally until Vrabi stop considering them NijiID. And at the end of this month I will no longer make the ID tally but instead switching to make charts for ID chuubas. I hope others could stop arguing now because it's just fucking pointless to care about who will win this Paralympic. I'm not even do the Gold Silver Bronze ranking shit but rather to observe the growth of them. And I hate myself for making you guys argue about this now.

>>22551560
>We -know- EN+ID are special kinds of fucked
>Proceeds to blast EN for their numbers and call everything cope when it's blatant as day
>Numbers and shitposts leak out to the rest of the board
>Schizoposting and shitposting continue to be relentless
>Timeloop begins

>>22551661
Towa, Shion..

>>22551687
Ratting for the first three rounds and after that unleashing the mad dog seems like a good idea.

>>22551661
Didn't Choco measure every HoloX member's body?

What, I thought we have a massive tournament going on, why are we timelooping

>>22551661
she collabed with rushia (rest in piss), towa, shion like 4 times, choco, rbc, and a bunch more

>>22551338
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD
ASIA GOLD
>ASIA GOLD

seriously though, this is just SEA viewers only, and Indonesia also has their own premiere of it, and they both reached around 12k CCV. if it doesn't have a region-lock, i can see this premiere get around 50k CCV.

>>22551628
Stop it, those mumeifag has different standard than you

zeta no longer had the debut buff

Aqua 17 kills, Towa 7 kills, Suisei 5 kills.

>>22551762
Either seething 2 views or actual shit flinger trying to falseflag

Youtube keeps shitting the bed again today for all the streams I try to watch, fix your fucking site already Susan

>>22551687
Yeah, they don't even need a champion if they can get to top 5 with tons of kills. They still need to work on their ratting skills for the first few rounds

>>22551792
So will this be her floor?

kek
>YOU ALL NOW REALIZE IT *COULD* HAVE SLIPPED
Aqua is running really hot because that peak at the end for the emperor was high as fuck

>>22551792
Zeta is getting CCVID anon. Debut buff is wearing off sure but she’s blatantly getting fucked. And it’s not by me so unfortunate.

>>22551792
indogs are too poor to get a Switch.

>>22551893
not even close, try asking in 3 months, then see if she inclines from that 3 months after that

>>22551749
Alas, it is the way of /#/ and /vt/. No amount of logic and level-headedness can stop someone from crafting bait, and there are far too many newfags here that they'll bite/get baited by samefagging.

>>22551780
Shut the fuck up indog go back to your jungle

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1514878796931149824?s=20&t=yQ5TVW088DIQnJdvmvX56A

This is an interesting stream for numberfags tomorrow if you are interested in Japan's tax regulation and stuff.

>>22551583
how many of those points were earned by Aqua lol

>>22551904
anon, aqua's peak is 70k.....

>>22551904
>18k away
Try better next time?

King...

>>22551904
Retard

>>22551950
It's just hilarious. The thread complains about shitposting and baitposting all the time, yet they're the ones who craft it and look away when they get blamed. Like fuck dude we have 15 thousand pictures of CCVID/CCV fuckery and they continuously skirt around it.

>>22551962

>>22552060
Damn, Hal's peak is insane. How did he get that high?

>>22552060
The true power-ranking for viewer draw this tourney.
A lot of Hololive watchers watching the tourney, more than usual because of the trio. Probably the most it'll ever get from those who normally watch just Hololive.

I feel like not enough praise is given to Mika for literally carrying NijiID name on her shoulders right now.

>Not even Ange can break 10K even if she had not streamed for days.

Why is Nijisanji JP such an embarassment? I wonder what the japs think at 5ch about their failures.

>>22550980
All these shitposting aside, riku is giving up the ID market. Maha5 (from the inside) and HoloID (from the outside) are contributing to the expansion while NijiID is just.... There

>>22551993
>>22552035
>>22552066
COULD, damnit, COULD have slipped.

>>22549960
I was bored and read through the entire spiel, so I guess I'll summarize it here -

Uki's mods are using mod accounts as if it's their regular accounts and doing shit like a normal fan does, but with mod powers (and the spanner highlight) -
> spamming thirsty comments (BARK BARK etc.) in chat
> using the chatroom to have conversations with other mods/users
> directing Uki's and the chat's attention to themselves and diverting the attention from the stream.
> concernfagging Uki (way more frequently than is warranted).
> Deleting "backseating" comments en-masse (which also apparently included some users answering questions asked by Uki himself kek).

Other users are obviously following the tone set by mods, making the overall chat thirst level way too high.

Uki himself is apparently encouraging this by replying to the mods' pre-chat comments, excessively focusing on them during ASMR streams, naming in-game stuff after them etc. making his "normal" fans very uncomfortable.
A lot of viewers have apparently been angry about this for a long time, but were "too scared" to address this publicly (until now).

>>22552060
Demoted to bronze boy...

>>22552134
are you trying to get her anti'ed or something anon? we can all see the title and the thumbnail

>>22552134
She's actually burying that branch and everybody that was left behind her wrecking job.
She (correctly) moved on from that cursed brand as if it never existed and left all her former branch mates behind

>>22552138
nah, no one expected aqua to be below 60k, so it couldn't have slipped.

>>22552060
>>22552135
Another failure of Nijisanji JP.

>>22552138
You COULD have used your brain more

I vote to create a split to talk about real numbers where CCVID can be compensated for instead of being treated as imaginary.

>>22552071
Nobody is denying there's culling going on we're just sick of ENfags blaming everything on muh CCVID when we know JP is culled too and we have no solid evidencce of what percentage it is for everyone

>>22552138
You call 18K viewers gap a chance for slippage?

>>22552137
Why do we keep hearing about NijiEN guys having troubles with mods every week?

>>22552198
That's because, as I said, Aqua is running really hot.

Back in the days people would be equally amazed with Aqua getting 55k for an APEX tournament scrim

>>22552138
Kek maybe if the difference was 2k or less. But fucking 18k? In terms of horse race, that's like a full lap behind.

>>22552134
>Mika
Do you even read the last thread?
She's a traitor. It's just Mika and Nijien, not nijiid and nijien.

>>22552214
Impossible. Only the streamers know what the true ccv is so people will just make up more imaginary numbers

>>22552190
She is actually smart and doing what Hana should have done.

>>22551510
one time accidents are fine mate, but if we do too much shit offtopic it becomes annoying, and invites other offtopic shitposting.

>>22552252
Maybe, if you're talking about early 2020.

>>22552214
>I vote to create a split to talk about real numbers where CCVID can be compensated
Anon, that would be a solitary split, taking with the voices in your head

>>22552190
Is that why a lot of NijiID members are shading her on Twitter? Or at least that Siska guy from what I've seen.

>>22551661
Rushia...

>>22552230
We -know- JP is culled by about 10% and EN/ID a lot more than that going from the poll votes, likes and post-stream vods. Stop being a disingenuous fucker, you're part of the problem.

>>22552247
fujo mindset

>>22552137
yeaaa this is one reason you have to be careful with fan mods. Having mods on a rotating basis of core viewers is good enough if you're going for that, otherwise it should stay at a professional level of mods being silent while on mod accounts, else you get drama like this and eventual powertrips.

>>22552325
Sure thing, buddy.

>>22552325
Cope

>>22552275
She is currently the most popular ID vtuber right now, so what she is doing is right.
That is without 3D buffs, if she gets a 3D model, I think she will explode in popularity even more.

>>22552214
If it could be reasonably compensated for, that would be nice.
The worst bit about it is that due to it affecting VIEWERS, the %loss across branches and hell, even talents within the branch wouldn't be consistent.
We saw this when Kiara got an influx of Korean (unflagged) viewers to bolster her numbers, or when Fubuki attracted a fuckton of tourists with her pokemon gacha so that her numbers looked fine but we now know that no, they were not. Or the fact that EN wasn't hit as hard initially due to it spreading heavily from the JP FPS scene into Hololive->Everywhere else.
Point being, I'd love to be able to reasonably compensate, but YT makes it impossible.

>>22552251
no management support, they have to find and mod people all on their own.
obviously shitters might get in - and should be removed when they reveal themselves - but when the livers themselves start encouraging rule-breaking, that's not a good look.

>Crab mentality
No matter what Mika do, she's gonna get screwed

kek, Astel is getting some sort of meme hate for his drill skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6wvvu_vWQw

Out of everyone in this tournament he's the one that, if he can control his menhera outbursts, has the better chance to come out with a permanent incline

>>22552325
>10%
korekore confirmed it's 40%
where did you got that info? from your ass?

>>22552301
Link it anon

>>22552267
Anons in this thread already dissected how Youtube's culling algorithm works, we have the real numbers.

>>22552409
do a cover song with kotone and rene and he'll get out of his perma 3view state

>>22552325
>We -know- JP is culled by about 10%
Absolutely delusional, go fuck off and make your split already where you can jerk off over Gura AKSHUALLY gets 100k watching every stream

>>22552383
Everyone keeps saying "If she gets a 3D model, she'll explode in popularity". But nobody explains how that could happen. Moona and Risu exploded in popularity because of their singing, meanwhile Iofi barely inclined despite appearing in the same Fes

>>22552101
God view during the running race i would tihnk.

>>22552383
>most popular ID vtuber right now
Kek maybe if she starts pullinggood numbers in solo streams. Right now she's still at Anya/Iofi's level.

Somebody brought up NijiEN clippers in reference to HoloEN clippers and I imagine they aren't on the same level.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCQ9lz9S-4YyEUyyT1BuplLg

That is an IRyS exclusive clipper that routinly gets 100k views. IRyS herself is hardly a top tier numbers wise

>>22552426
Check Siska twitter anon, it's not that hard. There was something hinted about some people in NijiID having preferential treatment

>>22552454
>Gura
rent free

>>22552415
Korekore is not Hololive, anon.
If anything, JPs -underperform- on VODs despite ridiculously high CCV. If they're getting culled at all, it isn't much, I'll tell you that. Unless you believe Pekora is getting culled like EN is despite having relatively weak vods of late yet averaging well over 20k people a stream.

>>22552407
It just feels like desperation for views and numbers coming from nijiEN/ID while HoloEN lays back on their golden chair. They aren't gonna become like NijiJP where their grasp on the market slipped onto HoloJP, they're just cruising even if NijiEN gets better peak numbers on one day.

>>22552431
They're still guesses and estimations. Better than nothing, but still using a lot of assumptions

>>22552409
The man is an absolute menace with the drill, and with people LOVING to hide in the vehicles on the map, makes ridiculously good use of that accursed skill.

>>22552301
Link proof or GTFO.

>>22552541
WHEN I SAY "ELDENSCHIZO" YOU SAY "SORRY"
>ELDENSCHIZO!

>>22552567
FUCK OFF
KYS

>>22552383
>She is currently the most popular ID vtuber right now
lol, no

>>22552520
>If they're getting culled at all,
archive reps or shut the fuck up. i am sick and tired of this retarded timeloop

>>22552501
On Bilibili, Luxiem alone has hundreds of millions of views.

>>22552541
oh hey rape's streaming

I hope you guys are doing your nihongo reps
>coco
>cochi
>migi
>hidari
>ura
>mae

>>22552567
Stop trying to save face Elden schizo. We know what you really said. Give it up.

Is Aqua going to get a record for most solo golds in a month? What *is* that record anyway?

>>22552541
How do we save Ui lads? She used to be a guaranteed 10k streamer every time
>inb4 rape

Damn

>>22552567
>DEATH TO THE FALSE PROPHET
WHERE IS MY 40k VOX ELDEN RING STREAM FAGGOT?

>>22552415
korekore =/= holoJP, he doesn't share his viewerbase with them. Everything about graph patterns, polls, likes and views points to holoJP not having a 40% cull.

>>22552511
Kek if you don't wanna spend the effort then I'm just gonna assume you're talking out of your ass, then.

>>22552636
did they shill it on stream?

>>22551338
ANYA GOLD???

>>22552679
A bit yea, they were talking about the song.
Also, with STARTEND in the title and Aqua's POV being THE ONE to watch.....

Any new narratives to why only HoloEN and HoloID are being culled?

>>22552609
>Magical BIlibili numbers
OHOHOHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!

>>22552607
What fucking archive reps do you need, you smooth brained fuck? Korekore had a 70k stream where his "real" viewers were over 110k or something. We've all seen it.

That's not fucking Hololive. And that's certainly not HoloJP. It's an entirely different fanbase. So what "reps" are you talking about now anon? No, really, what the fuck are you on about.

>>22552609

1st) Provide proof, nijiniggers aren't trustworthy.
2nd) If true, luxiem should go to bilibili, its irrelevant to outside china though, and luxiem is outside

>>22552636
Can it beat Reflect to 1M?

>>22552607
>bilibili
Nice chink

>>22552710
they are not the only ones being culled, they are just the most obvious examples

>>22552501
That actually looks like some crazy high viewership. Its so funny to me that IRyS seems popular in everything she does except for her songs, lol.

>>22552679
susy did
twice
also went full autist on vocaloid cevio

>>22552520
>n-not hololive!!
you're clearly so fucking retarded
afterall THE AUDIENCES ARE JAPANESE so there should be no difference at all idiot

>>22552609
This is one of those chang commenters we see posted here from other places isnt it

>>22552710
Because Cover spends all of their money on bots I think. There is no way a company like that can get big that fast without using tricks.

>>22552710
Muh likes as always even we've been over the fact that EOPs like more than JOPs a million times

is this what we're doing today
guess i'm going to bed early
see you tomorrow anons, i'm gonna miss you

>>22552710
We don’t know what even spurned it on, but we have pretty blatant evidence that EN viewers are getting fucked by the system in some way. This was Koyori’s English learning stream too. It’s the SAME exact behavior as the other ENs, and guess what? She goes back to her normal streams with her JP audience and her graphs become completelt normal again

>>22552741
It already lost

>>22552794
Retard, NijiEN girls, NijiID and HoloEN both have -non-Japanese- audiences yet only HoloEN and HoloID are culled, viewerbases are not the same across the board.

>>22552383
if it's another NijiEN collab on her channel yeah she's going to pull 10K+ from collab but 1k shitter from her solo stream, try again next time anon

>>22552820
SEAchama...

>>22552710
We have proof that Niji is paying react channels tonreact to their stuff. I would put it past them to pay youtube to cull the viewership of Hololive.

>>22552383
Having big number =/= popular
If having big number = popular, I can say Anya is the most popular ID vtuber after her totsu

>>22552679
>Suisei involved
Make a guess anon

migo you dumb baby...

>>22552820
hope you get a good sleep anon

>>22552838
(me)
This is her radio stream the same exact day. You can be the judge over how those graphs look

>>22552787
Her songs are kinda lame and her singing is good but it just sounds like good singing. She's a great streamer. Maybe talks too much sometimes in collabs like Suisei does.

>>22552727
This reps, retard. And yes, the 2020 cull isn't fixed yet to THIS VERY DAY.
And before you say anything else, no, CCVID is a different thing entirely. Now fuck off.

>>22552794
>no difference at all

>>22552925
We're not talking about the 2020 cull retard, we're talking about CCVID which hit EN and ID hard and wasn't cured unlike it was for JP.

>>22552888
Fucking cope since NijiEN is beating HoloEN in every metrics. They have sponsorships, a cafe and billboards all over Taiwan.
What does HoloEN have nowadays? Viewership is slipping, no sponsorship and even no cafe.

>>22552874
retard I was pinpointing about HoloJP
thinking korekore and HoloJP has different viewer base when they're all both japanese anyways is really the most fucking retarded I've ever read

>>22553001
>and even no cafe >:(
i don't know why this is so funny

>>22552957
Because what Korekore was talking about was mpre in line with the 2020 culls. CCVID has very different symptoms, that's why you should do your archive reps before you talk out of your ass again.

>>22552925
jesus gura lost 20k ccv thats double anyone else

>>22553048
We have proof that holoID and nijiID have different viewerships because one is culled and one isn't, that same pattern holds true for holoJP and korekore so their viewerbase is not the same retard

>>22552914
Do you have this kind of stat but for Ludwig or any YT IRL streamers? If they have the same ridges like that then the CCV system might be fucked for EN side.

>>22553001
Imagine being this delusional
Fine, have some (You) o fisher of men

Is Anya the most popular ID Vtuber? Who can compete with these numbers?

>>22549675
Don't be mean!

Can you seriously fuck off with this timeloop already ENsharts, it's JP primetime and the big boys are streaming, invent bullshit to cope about your failures during burger hours at least so I don't have to read it

>>22553131
Moona did. On a solo stream, at that.

>>22553108
So what is NijiID's audience these days aside from the leech? Are they still Indonesians because I feel like HoloID also has a majority of Indonesian viewers as well.

>>22553147
HoloEN is reclining pls understand

>>22553001
>Taiwan
Where's american ?

>>22553147
it's actually sad how hard they'll grasp at straws to make their shitty side branch look decent
immeasurable cope

>>22551908
ID / EN audiences have always been culled by roughly (estimated by pools / VOD views) around 20%-50% since forever anon. It's nothing new

>>22553147
you are just as bad as the people timelooping

Miko + Lap 23k

>>22553216
HoloEN is fucking slipping despite HoloFes. NijiEN doesn't need that and they are inclining with more sponsorships coming in.

>>22553147
Just to spite you, I will perpetuate the timeloop.
Every time you complain in this way, I will start the timeloop. EVERY TIME I SEE YOU, I will perpetuate the timeloop. At this point seeing you seethe brings me more joy and pleasure than the numbers themselves, you miserable cretin, and so long as you continue to whine and bitch, wah wah wah, it'll continue, because there are a bunch of people here who, while they too are sick of timeloops, hate your guts more and will gladly join in to fuck with you so long as you bitch about it like this.

>>22553258
seems like 25k is guaranteed

>>22553001
I talked about Mika and ID vtuber scene though

The truth hits you that these threads, and the board in general, won't be good until all the Nijiniggers are banned.

>>22552925
Funny how the "cull" coincides with Nijisanji opening their EN auditions.
Could it be possible that Holos lost viewers because people were interested in seeing what the #1 Vtuber company in the world could offer in terms of talents?

Funny how you retards make up literal conspiracy theories when the truth is plain as day - people got bored of Holos and watched Nijis instead

>>22553229
Who gives a fuck about American, when you can make money in Asia instead.

>OOOH YES, NIJIEN IS INCLINING
>LOOK AT ALL THESE SPONSORSHIP
>HAHAHAHAHA HOLOLIVE WILL FALL

>>22552612
RARE

>>22549534
You will not get another fake gold trophy KING

>>22553258
pretty weak considering miko herself can get 20k more often than not, this should b at least a 30k collab

>>22553131
soon

Why is it everytime non-jp nijinogs break 5 digits with big streams the thread deteriorates at light speed with false information and shit

>>22553298
It's the fucking same. NijiID is inclining through the sheer force of Mika alone. She is still the only one holding onto NijiID while others moved on already.
If anything, she is admirable for being able to do this with so many obstacles stacked against her.

>>22553310
>until all the Numberfags are banned.
here you go anon

>>22553269
>>22553216
>>22553147
You are so pathetic.

>>22553366
Ru...

illegal rpr coaching

>>22553317
Lol it didn't hit only Hololive, or Vtubers, for that matter. 2020 cull fucking hit EVERYONE on YT who does livestream.

>>22551240
>>22551000
>>22550991
>>22550819
LITERAL ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY ILLEGAL FUNNEL
AHHH I AM GOING INSANE

>>22553369
Last samurais feeling insecure, what else? They've always been the worst posters in the thread

>>22553397
t.mysta

>>22553369
It's easy bait material and Holofags are so easy to eat the bait

>people falling for the cheapest bait
Sometimes this is more amusing that the streams

>>22553318
You mean china ?

>>22553369
What did you expect from Nijiniggers? They will falseflag and bait until the thread went to shit, and when they do win, they will fling shits everywhere

>>22553426
Yes but 10~% of JP is pretty different from 50+% on EN

>>22553358
Anon, Aqua(and startend) is still holding a very big chunk of the box hostage.

>>22553317
Anykara is getting aggressive and I like it. People need to remember that Riku was the one to bring vtuber to mainstream attention after Kizuna Ai lost her position.

>>22552874
NijiEN Females are being culled as well, what the heck are you talking about? >We literally had that Millie's leak few days ago showing that she was culled by around 30+% too

>>22553258
holox debuff

>>22553426
>didn't hit only Hololive
>Nijis getting the same numbers or even inclining, mogging Holo numbers
This is the /#/ thread faggot. Stop spouting bullshit lies that cab easily be disproven. God I wish Holofags were banned from this board and we could finally have a decent conversation for once.

>>22553282
You sound so mad, are you really that upset about your oshi's shit numbers that you have to make up magic formulas and blatanly lie about JP being unculled to defend her honour when she isn't even streaming?

>>22553509
95% of those numbers won't go anywhere after that trio is done, don't kid yourself
the holobo doesn't have that many apexfags in it, of it had then apex would've been the biggest buff game in history

>>22553505
Did you somehow miss Azki, Mio, and Sora at the very top of that list?

>>22553534
Fucking newfags

>>22553397
>sheer force of Mika alone
Poor Ike, Mysta, Alban, and Sonny...
Oh yeah, I forgot Nina too

>>22553369
ENschizos, nijinnigers, chinks and Seaniggers what do you expect?
They always seething and screaming no matter what they won or lose the day
So many baitposts and when gura start streaming is even worse when they start falsefagging about HoloJP VS HoloEN.

>>22553397
>sheer force of Mika alone
You mean the sheer force of leeching off the males? The bitches watching her stream now will not continue watching her.

>>22553481
Sure, China. It has a very stable industry that is in love with Anime culture. Inclining in the country is the safest bet if you want to bring in a lot of money.
The only thing you need to do is to respect the culture. If you can't, you are deserved to fail.

>>22553572
Did you somehow miss Lamy, Aqua and Okayu at the very bottom of the list with barely any cull? Having such a wide range means it's just monthly variance in averages you retard, nothing as consistent as what EN suffered.

>>22553421
What happened to rpr?

>>22553534
Okay, sure. Bring proof of Nijisanji's numbers before and after 31 November 2020 and we'll compare it with Hololive.

>>22553406
Where do you think you are? Mods need to implement a IDs and a tribalfagging rule

Talking about numbers, I'm making a graph showing which hours have the highest amount of SEAniggers so that we can avoid them and have a normal thread not having to read posts made by subhumans

>>22553406
Nah, numberfags are fine. The thread was wholesome as fuck when we were cheering Gura on to 40k during her karaoke. Its only when Nijiniggers get involved that everything turns to shit.

>>22553282
god i fucking hate zoomers so much its unreal. can't you fags go play fort night or some shit instead of pretending to be retarded?

>>22553648
Baffling post.

>>22552636
Nijibros...how come StartEnd gets a theme song for tourney and we don't...

>>22553505
where does this 10% come from?
>vod views
of course, JP viewers live in the same time zone so JP vod views/ CCV ratio will be different from that of EN

Miko and Lap 27k

>>22553707
Not as baffling as your lack of IQ

>>22553566
I mean, right now I'm watching Aqua (and startend) and not watching other Hololive streams. I can't be the only one, and if we're not moving over it's because we've been watching fucking 4+ hours of streams and asking more than a fraction to move over is a bit much, no?
Normally streams go for 2-3 hours, and then you'd catch another stream or two at most and then get on with your day. A 4-5 hour stream? Probably going to get something to eat or at least getting other things that need to be done.

>>22553625
1 social credit for you zhang

>some of these comments
I used to think it was zhang larp but im not so sure anymore after seeing the fujo comment sections using terminology from here or straight up mentioning 4chan in some...

>>22553752
Have you seen /nijien/ anon?

>>22553707
Stop responding to the retarded newfag already. You already know he's just talking out of his ass so why the fuck are you even trying?

>>22553673
>>22553689
kill yourselves, holofags shit on other holos more than nijiniggers even could or would

>Salty anti-mika mysta fujos
>mika defender probably mysta himself
>anti-nijisanji "you will regret it, riku" indogs
Wow

>>22553674
everyone here is seanig you get out now

>>22553563
I don't make up magic numbers nor pretend that JP is less culled than EN, just that even between streamers in JP the culls weren't the same. I hate you more though, and how you've constantly contributed to timelooping while complaining about it for over half a year now.

>>22553648
30% average drop for JP vs 38% average drop for EN as their debut buff was wearing off is hardly 50% vs 10% like you fags are trying to make out

Vsaikyou season 3 preparty numbers
>king 48k
>emperor 45k

Vsaikyou season 4 preparty numbers
>king 37k
>emperor 52k

Nijibros what happened?

>>22553655
Leeching from most popular tourney team.

>>22553751
At least social credit will help me, but it won't help Cover and HoloEN for long.

>>22553772
I havent been to nijiEN since sometime between obsidya and ethyria. I watched rosemi and selen til council took up my time for them

Why do I feel like there are ongoing clique wars between NijiENs? Is there a power struggle between Mysta and Vox?

>>22553704
>zoomer
what are you? a boomer? damn oldfag is here also

>>22553752
Kiwifarm

>>22553800
Okay stay mad I don't care

>>22553775
Kek I was just bored since the horse race is pretty much decided already. But yeah, either this is a newfag or just Nijiniggers trying to bait (You)s again.

there are lonely fujos here?

>22553282
What kind of grudgeposting is this?

>>22553826
This post makes zero sense

>>22553835
It doesn't matter since Nijisanji culture is already like that. NijiEN will still get high numbers anyway.

>>22553805
There -is- no average drop for JP because they had so little of a cull that it was masked by their usual monthly variance, that's the point. Learn to read the context of numbers.

>>22553369
Saturday night in SEA
Just saying

>>22553927
Someone who needs to get the fuck out of /#/ for a few days by the sounds of it. Not that I don't sympathize but yeesh that's an unhealthy amount of anger.

>>22553826
this is sad for you. take you meds already

Do you that posts which defend Mika?
I wouldn't be surprised if mysta is /here/

>holoEN cull and ccvid cope again
here we go again

>>22553905
>a newfag or just Nijiniggers
I'm thinking both. I don't know, the sheer stupidity of his posts screams both to me.

>>22554021
>he says, calling it a cope and thus joining the other half of the timeloop
Starting to think that whoever whines about this loop is just afraid of the cull becoming a fully accepted fact

>>22553938
>still get high numbers anyway
you mean bots until they get mass reported and cancelled for a few days by youtube when is confirmed. Make and general apologize and substract all their bots subs. That would be at least a easy punishment for them

>>22553952
>merely pretending
i hope someone shoots you dead anon.

>>22553805
>30% average drop
you're trying to account for this apparent 69% cull on AZKI as a factor in that average, when this was her month of December. It's just fucking rebroadcasts.

Her month in november had a live concert showing, which is why her average was higher in the first place.

>>22554007
See, this is just baffling to me
Like, pick your fucking fight
If I see a day where my oshi can win then I will shitpost
If the day is lost I disengage and do something else

I wonder how much of a mental breakdown the NjiEN side is going to have as we approach the date of Mori's first solo live

>>22553001
aren't you just coping about Hololive beating niji in general? Its more popular in Japan, more popular in Taiwan, more popular in Indonesia, and yes, still more popular in the West.