/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Didn't expect to see Mumei that high

>>22541328
Finana has really been pumped and dumped.

>>22541328
why is the samurai below the pink dog and getting that close to the bird hag, what happened there

why are nijiniggres such a numberfag?

>>22541328
I see why they kicked you out of /#/. Next time give a title and bulletpoints to your presentation.

Can't even top the worst Hololive member, by far, when they essentially have a new market carved out for them by Luxiem.

>>22541328
shibuhal... I kneel

Why aren't images originating from /#/ banned?

>>22541328
てぇてぇ

>>22541376
She has Ina-syndrome (aka "popular for no reason"-itis)

>>22541328
>Council didn't do well as they expected
>Noctyx didn't do well as they expected
THEY ARE

>>22541630
UwU

>>22541328
what is this autismo?

>>22541328
>all that blue at the top
Hololive dominant as expected.

>>22541328
>Agua 60k
>second place only 30k
AIEEEEEEEE MY KNEES ARE KNEELING ON ITS OWN

>>22541465
Isn't there a huge drama after FF14 stream? People went apeshit over her because of that.

>>22541958
>huge drama
didn't hear anything about it, but I know samurai has huge anti in the 5chan

>>22541328
The one that made that statement is one of the lowest of his gen.

>>22541902
Onion only stream 5 times and everytime it's always 60k+ ccv. As expected from her and apex audience.

>>22541958
Yes she upset a huge portion of her fans (that don't play FF)

>>22542104
How so?

Pekobros... How could we lose to K*zuha

>>22542180
it's vsaikyou month, both aqua and kuzuha are buffed to shit

>>22541328
>Elira, Pomu and Finana struggled for ages to get where they are
>Some faggots from Noctyx who are complete failures compared to Luxiem still mog them instantly
Manjisanji...

>>22542088
And they will leave once she stops playing Apex like how everyone left Fubuki after the Pokemon Arc but still left their subs because of subs-only chat and probably forgot about it.

>>22542384
The power of pandering to to chink fujos.

>>22542624
nah, fubuki is like a hub where everybody gathers for big events

>>22541626
Jannys to be busy deleting Mori dox images

>>22541745
Why are kfp like this?

damn. . can't wait to bang a corporate pussy

>>22542384
The real controversy isn't even that the men mogged them, but that because of that, they are now forced to become accessories to the men and essentially just be a walking collab platform for them. The girls are barely allowed to have solo streams anymore.

>>22542384
well ppl says holo are always threat their talents uneven and harsh . . little did they know niji is more than that. .

>>22543212
Crunchy-Hime is NOT for sex

>>22541745
why kfp like this?

V-VIRTUAL OBAACH- WHAT!?!

>>22542624
Same with haachama, anon these kinds of "inclines" are never long lives especially if you incline on the back of a single thing
While it's true that aqua will absolutely decline it won't be as bad, she'll still be a 15k+ streamer

>>22543594
You fucking wish. She got huge numbers just from eating sushi, and the Apex vtubers didn't get more viewers when she's not streaming. Her viewers aren't going anywhere

>>22543759
If you think her average viewers are going to consistently be 2x as high as her old buff streams (minecraft & collabs) and 4x her old average, then you have a level of optimism I could only dream of.

>>22543370
If the girls collabs with guys, it's all on them.
Management doesn't tell them what to do other than mandatory big branchwide collabs and even that hasn't been a thing for a long while and only getting harder to schedule as they get more members.

>>22543370
Yeah, basically ever collab has to have at least one fag in it now, pretty obvious it's management mandated.

>>22541328
imagine the sex

>>22543841
So you're ignoring the fact of her getting 40k on debuff sushi shilling stream? Anything can happen, Holo used to get 500-2k viewers max.

>>22541328
numberniggers get the rope

>>22543759
This kind of number cope is disgusting and retarded, you do realize that stream was right after the apex things started? If this was during her 20k times she wouldn't have gotten more than 12k you absolute /#/ reject
Her average median is usually 15-17k and she will fall back down to that level once the apex things stops, which she will probably lose btw

>>22543955
1 stream in the midst of a tournament arc is a pretty big outlier. I am not saying it's impossible to maintain most of her viewers, but Fubuki also had a buff on some of her other streams during her shiny magikarp hunt and she definitely doesn't pull those views anymore.

>>22541328
>>>/vt/numbers

>>22541328
orrie..

>>22543955
Apexfags are the most fickle of "fans"
Even haachama's ARGfags stayed for a bit before they all fucked off, when aqua loses this she will be getting quite a bit of shit for it and then probably disappear for a couple more months before coming back to sing a bit before another apex tournament, and so on and so forth

>>22543843
>Management doesn't tell them what to do
You don't know that

>>22544205
>>22544422
Startend even made a cover together. Everything is pointing to them winning(because think about it, how lame it'll be if they're dead last). Shit, Cover probably already paid all of the participants to throw the match in the real day.

>>22545407
It's not about winning for StartEnd. It's about putting on a show and trying their best.

>>22546219
They've been fun to watch. Better than some of the teams just ratting in a building for an entire match.

>>22541485
>Next time give a title and bulletpoints to your presentation.
The original anon who posted that did. That guy just took his work out for shitposting

>>22541328
>Kenmochi Toya
What's his target audience again, loli hunters?

>>22548757
He's actually a brotuber. Him being a lolicon is a bonus.

>>22546219
>It's about putting on a show and trying their best
Putting on a show? About what? Literally no one can watch them most of the time because they didn't even stream 3 days out of 5.

>>22541328
Now post March superchats one.

>>22543496
I'm KFP and I think Mumei is OK.
Not sure what that guy's problem is.

>>22551403
Trying their best. Make it fun for viewers to watch (which usually, but not always translates to unga bunga aggressive). Turn it into a story about bonding and trying hard to improve throughout the course of the tournament. They don't have to stream everyday as long as the viewers perceive that kind of message.
Which is basically what idols do. Similarly, no one expect idols to be master of singing, dancing, being cute or even talking either. It's a matter of selling the story of "Things might be hard. We can get bitter at times, but we will keep trying. In the end, we had fun and hope you did too".

>>22545407
>>22546219
>>22547370
>>22555262

>>22555920
Now post the Aqua killing Kuzuha one

>>22555920
Goos job Reimu.

>>22555920
Reimu didn't even kill her because Towa healed her a few seconds later

>>22555920
Can't wait for tomorrow when Nijikiller claims another victim.

>>22543496
Holy shit. Now I'm wondering, were there any malding from Ametori fans back when Gura barged into the their VR dance collab last minute?

>>22555262
Man your head is so far up your ass I don't even know what to reply to you. I want them to get crushed tomorrow but the whole tournament is probably staged and them winning is already set in stone in the script. I mean shit, they even have a cover song ready before the tournament and Aqua said she'll get 3D live and new outfit as rewards if she win.

>>22560314
Meds.

>>22560485
No seriously, I'm not crazy. How can a one week old makeshift Apex team shit out a cover song when it usually takes at least 2 months to produce the thing?

>>22541376
I love my Owl!!!

>>22561063
>No seriously, I'm not crazy

>>22541457
She really has. Been on a hard decline.

>>22541328
Why is Alice so low? Chink pandering?

>>22541328
misopita at 150th place is still above scores of nijikeks and all but one holostar.

>>22544048
>anon typed, with his black hands, black as the coal he received in his tenth chrismas for being such a bad boy, black as night, like the heinous black night in which anon was born, black as tar, though even the blackest tar is lighter than anon's hands, and black as death, which anon's would the best thing that could happen today.

>>22562661
>mentioning nigger
mutt hands typed this post

>>22562574
Cover could poach her and Reimu to start HoloES

>>22562841
Maybe

>>22543496
This isn't normal for KFP right?

>>22541457
It does not help that she cannot say no to a man and end up used with nothing to show for it

It feels like an all out war right now lol

>>22541328
SANBAKA I FUCKING KNEEL

>>22563610
No, the Kiaraschizo apparently hates both ENbirds and wants to start a fanbase war.

>>22562661
What a way to call someone an ultranigger

>>22541328
>there's approximately 8000 Vtubers on YT
>median 60 views puts you in the top 5%(400th)
>median 1000 views puts you in the top 2,5%(200th)
>median 4200 views puts you in the top 1%(80th)
This just shows how top-heavy vtubing is.
Barely being a 3view means you're more popular than 96% of the scene.
Quite a few get into vtubing thinking it's easy money, but going full time(outside of edge cases like Ayamy) requires you to already be in the cream of the crop.

>>22541626
Why would they be?

>>22541626
Because making you angry is not against the rules

>Mumei that high
the power of pseudo-c*nny

>>22541328
beeg numbuhs

No wonder council flopped when they couldn't do even the minimum OpSec and hired a genderfluid

>>22574753
Yes...and?

>>22575003
Kronii hates her own job and actively sabotages herself - no wonder she flopped so hard.

>identifies as genderfluid
>follows notorious male hate bot accounts
>defensive as fuck when called out
>still follows other male hate accounts
Imagine how much she seethes internally that her literal job is whoring her voice/time out to beg for simps in chat when she secretly hates it. The dysphoria must be insane.
Source: https://twitter.com/Dottovuu/status/1488901393150795779

>>22575003
So? Don't you care?

>>22575367
That doesn't say Kronii...

>>22575488
the twitter account is Kronii's. Check the youtube account as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKoU3LIPZKw

>>22575428
No sounds like a nothingburger to me.

>>22575367
Man, that must be the "least followed by other vtubers" roommate account ever

>>22575367
Why would you even apply if you...why?

>>22575679
The delusion is pretty insane here. You are hearing from the literal horse's mouth that she is genderfluid. Let me spoonfeed you.
source: sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKoU3LIPZKw
>spoonfeed me
>1. get chrome
>2. install youtube comment search: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ycs-youtube-comment-searc/pmfhcilikeembgbiadjiojgfgcfbcoaa?hl=en
>3. go to the linked video in chrome
>4. search for "genderfluid"

>>22575912
It's pretty easy money. Look at how often she streams, even from the OP. But just whoring yourself out a few hours a week is still depressing as fuck if you hate it - which is whey she jokes so much about being depressed lul.

>>22575910
Yes but that doesn't matter to me because it's too petty a thing to care about.

>>22575367
Kronii is based ?

>>22576039
Let me get this straight - you're happy simping for a vtuber whose literal job is to ask for money (supas, memberships) through their sex appeal and voice, when that vtuber claimed as recently as last year that she doesn't consider herself a woman.

>>22575367
It's even more funny if you remember mumei in her previous life went on about how creepy parasocial relations are, how she doesn't understand them and wouldn't want any of it even if she didn't have [redacted]. It is a bit of a pattern with council really all this shitposting aside.

>>22575910
"genderfluid" is a made-up tumblr bullshit it means nothing other than "sometimes I feel insecure about my voice being too deep" most likely, at least she's unlikely to have a bf.

>>22576244
Their job is to stream games.

>>22575910
>I’m genderfluid but I don’t give a fuck if you call me a she or he
>don’t go correcting people on my behalf
So she is bi or a lesbo. What’s there to hate here? She isn’t actively trying to normalize her illness if it was true.

>>22576368
>"genderfluid" is a made-up tumblr bullshit it means nothing other than "sometimes I feel insecure about my voice being too deep" most likely,
Normally I'd agree. but looking at the other videos in her channel, it looks like she genuinely believes in it. Combine that with her twitter bs - paints a pretty consistent picture that it's a bigger deal than just a one-time fling.
>at least she's unlikely to have a bf.
LOL guess unicorns have something to look forward to.

>>22576565
Their job is to take money from their viewers. Hololive does this by showing sex appeal/voice and taking money from male viewers.
Face it - Kronii actively dislikes men simping for her, but it's the only way she is continuing her job. Any employee who hates their job will see their efficiency plummet.
She used to be the top of EN at debut - now she isn't even #1 in council, and it clearly plays from how much she hates her job.

>>22576845
Yeah she's #2. Must suck for everyone below her that does all those things you want yet is still beneath her.

>>22576910
It just shows how well she can put up her mask, that despite actively hating her job she can still maintain the growth.
Still doesn't change what she really believes in. That kind of consistency doesn't change overnight just because your job makes you do something completely against your beliefs.
It'll be fun looking back years from now when she graduates and spews out how much she hated her job on twitter.

>>22576368
Sad if true, but then again, that's the whole point of Vtubing, reincarnating as a new and better version of your previous self.

Most of your favorite Vtubers either have done/said or been someone that doesn't reflect anywhere near to what they are on stream.

Whether they're honest on who they are today or it's just all just a big pretend play is dependent on what everyone individually wants to believe.
Though if I'm 100% honest, I hate with passion the whole "this person used to be like this "x" years ago, so that means they are the same today" mentality.

>>22577096
>"x" years ago
Except this isn't just her past - it's her present.
Her genderfluid youtube comment was just last year. She was following that anti-men account until 2 months ago and would have kept following it if she wasn't called out.
She can put up a pretend play, but you can see shit leak through the cracks of her mask from her constant suicidal humor, her constant use of the new years model four months after new years (LOL) etc

>>22576244
This industry has mindbroken simps HARD - harder than all but the biggest and most rapacious facecam streamers.

>>22577220
Unfortunate, but I mostly meant it as a general kind of thing. The amount of times people have been cancelled for something they've done/said 3-5 years ago when they were teens, grow as adults and proceed to get called out/canceled for something they've done forever ago is the saddest way of going out that I can think of.

>>22577499
I agree, but unfortunately Kronii is a different case.
What really lifted my eyes is how she responded to her twitter follow being called out. If she really changed her mind, she would've quietly unfollowed and/or responded with a quick "oh shit I didn't know." Instead she called out the fan for being a loser that goes through her follow list - like many fans don't do that constantly.

>>22577373
At least facecam streamers make an effort to pretty themselves up -- these simps give money for a streamer that actively hates her own job.

>>22577220
I mean she talked about struggling with depression or even being suicidal in the past, that's not directly related to her gender situation outside of the 41% memes though. She also mentioned being kinda overwhelmed with coomers at the start and probably doesn't exactly love her "ribbon" being prominent as it is, none of that is exactly a secret or even roommate lore but she wasn't really a bitch about her issues, she just doesn't stream.

>>22578116
>that's not directly related to her gender situation
I doubt that - if you truly believe in being genderfluid, you'd be depressed as fuck that your daily job is selling sex as a woman to lonely men, when you absolutely hate it. There's a reason why pronoun people have among the highest rates of depression and suicide. There's clearly a strong correlation between her depression and her gender fluidity.

>she just doesn't stream
of course she doesn't stream when she needs to go through this gender dysphoria every time she streams. It's stressful lul

>>22541328
Yeah?
Did anyone on Council actually have a fallowing before being part of Council?
They were not exactly S*nzawa or D*mon Dice.
>>22541376
>Didn't expect the one that sounds the most like Gura to be the closest EN to Gura

>>22576368
With Mumei, that comment keeps getting twisted and exaggerated. It’s really no different from Suisei saying that she’s personally uncomfortable with GFE pandering and not to expect her to reciprocate your feelings if you feel that way, though that does also sometimes get twisted too. Then Mumei proceeded to lose what she had (or at least tried to make it look that way), realize how lonely her life is outside of streaming, and ended up using her audience for BFE.
Anyone who actually pays attention notices how joining Hololive can change people, from antis complaining about Kiara being an SJW to her claiming that open borders lead to suicide bombings, saying nigga on stream, and occasionally channeling her inner fascist. If that’s not happening with Kronii, then it means she’s being stubborn about changing herself.

>>22578801
Mumei was pretty much in the same position as Gura before Hololive, right down to 2 year old comments on one of her old videos saying that their roommates have the same voice. Her roommate graduation announcement tweet actually managed to briefly derail /hlgg/ during Gura’s first DMC3 stream.

>>22578927
>If that’s not happening with Kronii, then it means she’s being stubborn about changing herself.
Yeah, I would give the benefit of doubt, as she debuted a few months after her latest genderfluid comment, and people can change.
However, She was already part of Hololive half a year when she got caught out following that anti-men twitter bot, and she didn't even say an "oops" - she lashed out HARD without ever denouncing those beliefs.
Add that to her constant depression, and the patterns clearly add up.

>>22577062
Kronii seems to respect hololive though and in the end of the day she knows what she was signing for at this point, Holo EN was well established much like the schizo-army here.

>>22579378
Could simply be that she hasn’t had her “Road to Damascus” moment yet. Mumei said that being in the Halloween collab and having Ame’s chat open was an eye opener about being an idol and her relationship to her fanbase, for example.

>>22578392
She was depressed long before Hololive was even a thing in the West etc. also she's not a tranny, just a young women messed up by commie propaganda, happens all the time.

If the booba was really that much of an issue she would apply for nijisanji or something, they have all kinds of rainbow weirdos there being open about it. Of course now she would have to suck fujobait cock all the time but back when council debuted we didn't know niji EN would turn this way.

>>22578927
why would mumei (or Fauna) need BFE from fans?

>>22541328
>Discord leaks trash Council
>The top stars of Luxiem (Vox/Mysta) are losing to two members of Council
>Two more members of Countil + IRyS are beating everybody else below those two
OH NO NO NO
Luxiem didn't do as well as they expected...

>>22579378
She said she didn't even know she was following it, it's not hard to imagine she followed it for whatever reason and forgot about it. Twitter is not exactly a place for deep interactions and expressing your real self I wish shitposters would finally shut up about it.

>braindead owl and stupid clock has better numbers than blatantly fujobaiting vox and mysta

Nijisisters who think that Luxiem has taken over whole EN now losing again… can’t even compete with council LMFAO kill yourselves nijiniggers

>>22580275
Their audience was never exactly EN to begin with, luxiem is actually getting a collab caffe thingy in Japan and it's not exactly targeted to Americans.

>>22580275
Mumei commands her legions to the frontier of the Hololive empire to slaughter some Luxiem pigs.

>>22576368
>It's even more funny if you remember mumei in her previous life went on about how creepy parasocial relations are.
When did she say that? She is more parasocial about her chat/fanbase when she said she doesn't talk to anyone IRL except in hololive

>>22579978
With Mumei, it’s because what you’re alluding to here isn’t necessarily still the case. You could read a couple of vague roommate tweets from July and August a certain way, or read a bit too much into her karaoke song selection, and it ends up matching with what she says on stream about being lonely outside of Hololive stuff and taking care of Animal. So it’s filling an empty spot that opened up in her life.
I made no such claims about Fauna, so I assume you brought her up in case asking about Mumei alone was too subtle.

>>22580599
Roommate stuff. She also started out as the most distant towards her fans, then started to get parasocial after Thanksgiving. Once again, joining Hololive can change people.

As a big Fauna fan, this can't be accurate.
She's not the 18th most successful Holo by any metric or any timeframe.
She's not above Flare, Towa, Amelia, IRyS, Watame or Nene

Someone explain what this shit means

>>22543578
What surprised me is that Moona is above Fubuki. That's actually impressive

>>22583656
Median/Average Peak CCV. It’s calculated based on peak CCV (concurrent viewers) for all public streams on her channel within that timeframe. The “Ayame Rule” excludes those who fail to meet a minimum number of streams. It means that Fauna has better peaks in live viewership than the others you’ve mentioned.

>>22583656
all those holos you mention can get shockingly low in viewership sometimes, flare and watame get sub 6ks, ame has a ton of 5k streams, nene crashed and burned after the tracing yab, you should probably check towa's numbers on okami
fauna just has been pretty consistent

>>22541328
>manjisanjj
>it's actually 50:50 male:female in JP

>>22592130
They really should play around with the brand and branch out instead of just using human wave tactic. I think Nanisanji with nothing but cursed shitpost content shittier than their main branch and understood to be 100% non-canon would be a good marketing gimmick.

>>22592130
all the women at the top of niji are there because they've been there for over 3 years at this point, they call them manjisanji because since every release of females gets worse and worse, from selejo to lain to the vta graduates while new males get way better reception, nippleman from edengumi was going up before the whole drama

>>22541328
why?