/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I can't stop farting and I don't know why.

>Bravely Debuffed
Pekora better not touch this game again

>>2249172
it's a shill stream though so its not such a big deal to get lower numbers

>>2249158
too many carbs at once. maybe too much fiber. eat only meat for two days and see what happens. introduce other foods slowly and find what causes the most farts.

likely culprits:
-cereal
-rice
-bread
-vegetables
-fruit
-beans
-dairy (only if lactose intolerant)

>>2249488
forgot the obvious processed products:
-baked goods
-sugary goods

>>2249172
The game is horrible so I'm happy if that happens

Shirogane Noel making an impressive dash to the finish line and overtaking Okayu. Miko left in third place decisively now. This last week has not been good for Miko, unfortunate timing just when the race was heating up.

>>2249346
shill stream? as in supas or sponsored?

>>2249614
sponsored

>>2249595
Going from having the fewest EOPs in chat to reddit review, English learning and GTA streams during North America primetime exploding her worldwide popularity has been insane for her, it's very calculated but she's been smart and deserves those subs

>>2249595
Poor Miko just can't catch a break. Her entire career has been rife with setback and struggles since the beginning. She scratches and claws her way out of it every single time though and comes back stronger than ever. Quite the strong girl that Miko is.

>>2249614
Sponsored stream, Pekora shilling SE so they can get those perms just like Capcom.

>>2250220
I just want another PekoMiko collab.....maybe they actually know about the narrative of they hate each other and planning to slowly build the hype like Marine and Ayame??

Do you think Mori's release will manage to beat Sora's last albums 3,679 first week physical sales in Japan?

>>2250252
She was shilling Octopath Traveller around half a year ago wasn't she?

>>2251052
Sort of, it was in November and the mobile spinoff

I didn't know Luna and Flare's sub count was so "low"

>>2256586
They have always been the runts of their respective gen subs/viewer wise. Flare makes good money though. Luna not as much but still decent if I remember correctly.

>>2256586
Flare especially is such an outlier, her Superchat numbers are incredible, her chat is pure green and she gets pretty good views especially when playing buff games, she's not as widely popular as the rest of her gen but her fans really fucking love her

numbers don't actually matter if your superchat audience makes up the gap so basically anyone who actually cares about numbers has brain rot

>>2250220
>can't catch a break
she is one of the biggest vtubers in the world at the top of her industry?

>>2256805
graduation soon

>>2256804
Anon, I hate to break this to you but superchat numbers are still numbers

>>2250858
I'll go with beating Azki but not beating Sora.

>>2250858
Where do they even publish that data anyways.

>>2256586
No sane person can stand their voices.

>>2256804
Only shitposters using numbers to drag others down have true brain rot. I just like celebrating big numbers for any holo.

>>2257176
>No pleb can’t not get filtered by their cute voices
ftfy

>>2257105
Oricon. But depending on how old it is you might need to look at web archives because they remove the data.

>>2249579
Really? That's a shame.

How much did Calli make on her birthday stream?

>>2257784
She beat Coco's highest by 2k.
It looks like it's the third highest SC stream.
Marine #1 at 64k
Rushia #2 at 63K

>>2258359
within Hololive

so why are >we numberfagging SCs instead of members? a steady stream of money coming in is financially better than SCs.

>>2258566
There isn't really any reliable and consistent way to measure member numbers. You can just try get some kind of estimate from analysis of the public chat and how many upvotes things get in the members community. But there are always going to be a lot of people that don't participate in either of those.

>>2258566
because there is no viable way to gauge how members there are for each Holo talent.

Also, no way to distinguish each other from tiers.

>>2258359
Think this is an accurate top 10 for the industry
1. Kagami 3D - $95,310
2. Akina 3D - $72,864
3. Kuzuha Birthday 2020 - $65,248
4. Marine 1 million - $64,077
5. Rushia 1 million - $63,006
6. Sio 3D - $61,852
7. Mori Birthday - $54,980
8. Coco Monetization - $52,158
9. Coco 3D - $49,996
10. Gibara Graduation - $49,525

>>2257176
Who the fuck gets filtered by the voice of Flare of all people? Some people, for some reason, get filtered by her model but her voice? Literally who?

So who's 1 mil streams will I have to catch? I don't numberfag since it doesn't mean much to viewers or the girls but I do like catching celebration streams.

>>2259034
Okayu, Noel, and Miko are coming up soon

>>2259197
>Miko
Bro, what if she gets 3-4 digit views and sub 20K super chats? She's reviled right now.

I posted >>1544406 last month and now we have a new numbers thread it's time for an updated version of who is set to hit a million this year at their current growth
4/13 - Noel
4/18 - Okayu
4/28 - Miko
5/13 - Matsuri
6/10 - Ina
6/14 - Kiara
7/10 - Ayame
7/15 - Subaru
8/7 - Watame
8/13 - Suisei
10/24 - Kanata
11/3 - Lamy
11/9 - Botan
11/29 - Moona/Ollie
12/13 - Shion
It's generally pretty similar to last month's with a few things that stand out, Watame and Kanata have dropped off a little, Lamy has shot up from not even making it this year to beating Botan, and Moona slowed down a little to create the ridiculous hypothetical that would be the two first Indonesians to reach 1 million doing it in the same day. If there's enough interest I can post 2022 as well. Risu and Iofi have dropped to join Anya in the 2023 club

>>2259247
Reviled by fujofags and twitter antis, she's fine regarding normal fans I think

>>2259022
A sane person

How do you think Ina will catch up to Kiara after the latter's 900k marathon since the two are tied to the hip at this rate? Youtube punching chicken in the gut, a random Tako surge, or some third thing?

>>2258359
Bah gawd. Good for the reaper.

>>2256787
>flare is an outlier
I thought the same thing but when another numberfag did some calculations, turns out flare has the most streaming hours when debut date is taken into account. Simply putting in the work paid off for her

>>2261245
Does anyone have that chart of who streamed this most in 2020? I know I saw it here before but forgot to save it, I know Watame was (unsurprisingly) top

>>2249579
Is it that bad? I wanted to buy it just because the blue girl shows her feet

>>2256747
Luna had consistent 7K to 10K viewers in her MH stream though? In what world is that low?

>>2270188
Luna gets like 2 - 4k views for every stream forever. Monster Hunter is flavour of the week and people are noticing, correctly, that she's really fucking good at it -- just like she's good at every game

>>2250858
daily ranking only gives numbers to 3rd place lowest
3/4 - 9th place - 3rd place 1,501
4/4 - 30th place - 3rd place 1,243
5/4 - 5th place - 3rd place 801

$25k for Marine's return stream, good job fujos

Question for your numberfagging minds: why is it that, when people want to talk about the biggest vtuber streamers out there, they only mention chuubas like kuzuha&mito&pekora&marine&gura; when in actuality they are all beat by Lord Haachama? Is it true that they are all scared of the world's strongest idol?

>>2273264
Her final push to a million was impressive as were some of her viewing figures at the start of the schizo arc. But overall I wouldn't say she's top tier number-wise

>>2273264
Haachama attracted a lot of tourists with her schizo storyarc, they don't stick around for her normal streams

>>2250252
Drakengard permits...

>>2273677
Granted I was interested already into her before the arc, but that just cemented it slowly over time that she's the one.
Anything I say would be pulling things out if my as, but I do imagine lots of people stayed. Thankfully she has a some pretty dedicated translators as well for anyone EoP as well, so here latest streams being majorly Japanese isn't an issue imo.

will Ollie take over Moona as most subbed HoloID? or rather, when

>>2273677
what is a normal stream then? Read below

>>2273412
ignoring videos less than 1day old and haachamas special return stream:

Haachama Cooking - 0:52 - 253k v
Haachama Room Tour - 1:00 - 225k v
Haachama Yabe - 1:34 - 229k v
Haachama "Birthday" - 0:47 - 300k v
Haachama Sings - 1:53 - 316k v

Kuzuha Apex - 3:40 - 252k v
Kuzuha some rpg - 1:55 - 156k v
Kuzuha Apex - 3:23 - 352k v
Kuzuha Apex - 3:18 - 367k v
Kuzuha LOL - 1:19 - 154k v
Kuzuha Blade - 2:19 - 193k v

id say shes at least matched with the king

>>2274009
I'm more interested in a comparaison with Haachama prior to her arc and how she's doing currently

>>2270380
How does it make sense for it to be 9th in the charts on the day before it's released then 30th of the day it's released then back up to 5th the day after?

>>2274160
When exactly would you say the schizo arc started? I can do a comparison if I know the cut-off date

>>2249172
What site is that?

>>2274373
boner.com

>>2259322
>If there's enough interest I can post 2022 as well
sure thing.

>>2274290
I'd say this video started it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEdlmzQftE

>>2274009
>>2274496
>>2274160
HAACHAMA AFTER BREAK
Haachama Cooking - 0:52 - 253k v
Haachama Room Tour - 1:00 - 225k v
Haachama Yabe - 1:34 - 229k v
Haachama "Birthday" - 0:47 - 300k v
Haachama Sings - 1:53 - 316k v

HAACHAMA BEFORE FREEHAATO
Haachama Minecraft - 1:32 - 278k v
Haachama Talking - 1:16 - 158k v
Haachama Tour - 2:30 - 269k v
Haachama English - 0:55 - 220k v
Haachama Cooking - 1:58 - 296k v
Haachama Cook Tour - 1:58 - 284k v
Haachama Talk - 1:26 - 167k v
ignored the void stream(300k 1hr)
Haachama Cook Review - 1:41 - 231k v
Haachama Sings - 0:54 - 166k v
Haachama Uno - 1:19 - 247k v

>>2274791
so basically haachama always been the schizo queen who is not taken seriously by her peers

>>2274496
Okay so ignoring the outliers of the 3D stream, million subs stream and return stream, the average live views are
From the start of 2021 to schizo arc
7,846
Schizo arc to break
14,713
Schizo arc season 2 (so far)
10,815
I knew there was a big jump but nearly double is honestly impressive

>>2274791
Interesting, so to summarize total viewers
It seems her new average is around 265K, probably a bit inflated due to one of them being her return stream
Her old average is around 230K not counting the void stream, so her total viewers have increased by 15% between both times
According to this https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC1CfXB_kRs3C-zaeTG3oGyg/monthly,
Haachama's subscribers were around 956K in February 2nd, while they're now at 1.08 million, which is a 13% increase
It seems the total views count has stayed consistent with the subscribers count

>>2275148
Interesting that live viewers seem to increase so much while the total viewers see a more reasonable growth

>>2275442
if you're using the numbers from the post that you quoted, i deliberately didn't include the return stream so it wouldn't contaminate her average, that one is 620k views.
also read >>2253454, although the OP didn't or couldn't find out if those cut %s can change for the same streamer from month to month

Alright numberfags, I know you mainly deal in realms only of the vtuber/hololive clubs, but can anyone somehow dig up the comparable numbers of money earned by vtubers vs the rest of youtubes streaming platform? Is this even a number we can figure out or find info on?

>>2275903
Many of the tracking sites just do youtube as a whole.

>>2275903
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly
youtube most superchat for all categories, worldwide, this month. You can change the filters if you want, its easy. Anyways, vtubers own the 8 first places, most jps except for Kiara.

>>2275631
According to the other thread, live viewers shown decreased around December of last year due to the adblock system put in place while total viewers keep increasing
Here though, there is the opposite thing happening, where live viewers are increasing by nearly 40% between the start of 2021 while video views have increased by 15%

>>2276270
>kiara on top 5 superchats of the whole youtube
wtf, maybe that's why she's got so many antis

>>2276270
Why the fuck would youtube not be working with Cover to allow them more leeway as one of the largest revenue producers they have? Seeing shit like this pisses me off and makes me want to strangle anyone who says companies like Google and Twitter are just going where the money is when it's a blatant lie.

>>2276512
in the grand scheme of things its absolutely nothing that cover brings it, the ads are what youtube makes its money on multiple billions a year

>>2276400
That was just for last month, overall she's "only" 27th which is still impressive. Either way Kanata and Flare are both in the top 10 and I've never seen anyone who hates them

>>2276577
It's true for now, though vtubers are for now some of the biggest players in the livestreaming scene on YouTube

>>2276705
I think it will always be true when the comparison is a percentage of millions a year that youtube gets from Hololive to
>YouTube brought in $5 billion in advertising revenue in the third quarter of 2020

>>2276330
those two numbers are not about the same videos

>haachama subscribers rising 15% in total views and subs
thats for the pre-schizo videos against the post-break videos. It jumps the schizo arc. This list: >>2274791

>live viewers are increasing by nearly 40%
those are from a different anon with a different set of videos. Following the list already quoted >>2274791, the average max live viewers numbers are:
post-break: 15479
pre-freehaato: 12096
28% increase

things to note:
1. vod views of the recent post-break arc will still increase. For example, that Terraria gura stream, when a few days old, was about 450k views, now its on 553k views. Or Gura's monhun stream, on first day it was 600k, now 863k
2. those live viewers are average of of MAX live viewers numbers, when we should be using the average of the average live viewers of each stream, but we dont have that

>>2276512
The real big companies that Youtube shills for pay them back with ads on yt or google. Cover doesn't.

>>2274226
In Japan its common that they sell CDs the day before the official release date in stores and all the preorders should go out then too.

>>2276840
>$5 billion
No wonder every single video has 30 ads in it now if you don't use a blocker.
My issue is that you'd think a company that offers a streaming service on their platform (that they originally implimented to compete with Twitch) would do everything they could to make the largest people and companies that use the service and draw viewers have an easier time streaming and archiving their content. We've had many instances of youtube not promoting or displaying numbers properly for vtubers leading to less overall live viewership because of shit algorithms. Why would a company that should be in it to get more people using all the features on their site to make more money hinder their 'talent' for no particular reason?

>>2277225
Wouldn't disagree with any of that. If they were really serious about trying to grow it as a streaming platform they could be doing a much better job of it than they are now.

>>2277225
Sounds like you never worked for a big company.
>CEO has idea
>some retard gets the task of implementing it
>gets fuckall resources because that would cost money and he can just work harder lol
>doesn't really work
>spend a billion on advertisement and gimmick bullshit
>poor guy still getting no resources

Ask yourself why Youtube still has no functional chat that doesn't melt anything but the most powerful supercomputers. Ask yourself how it is possible to fail at creating a chat, the most basic and idiot proof aspect of a stream.
Youtube is a horrid website that saves pennies on worthwhile shit and invest billions in white elephants because that's how big corporations work.

>>2278080
It's not even a money investment thing at this point. They let their automated systems fuck up these peoples streams because of possible briggade/raid activity and have shown they have nothing in place to flag these accounts to have manual checks. I wouldn't have as much an issue with the incompetency if it was just a failure to market, but their automated systems keep fucking over people who are doing nothing wrong and their continuous increase in rules causes more and more people that aren't shit TV companies to leave the platform or take their profit elsewhere (Patreon as a good example years and years ago).

>>2258359
wow. good for her. just imagine the numbers on shark birthday...

>>2282345
Lol Gura's superchats are nothing compared to Mori's, most of her fans are casuals or literal children

>>2274420
2022
1/19 - Sora
2/8 - Luna
3/17 - Flare
3/20 - Polka
4/5 - Mio
4/13 - Towa
5/25 - Nene
8/14 - Choco
10/15 - Roboco
11/19 - Mel
12/29 - Reine

2023
1/8 - Aki
4/6 - Risu
11/27 - Anya
11/30 - Iofi

>>2282664
does any homostar have a shot of beating out the indonesians?

>>2249595
It will be Miko. Noel is just giving herself an artificial EOP boost that will burn out fast.
Miko is still the most entertaining JP (maybe tied with Korone). Slowly but steadily she will make it to the top.

>>2282689
Robert isn't due until 2025, so no

>>2282689
I hope they stay "unpopular" for a while longer
They really don't need to deal with the attention and the restriction that the girls get

>>2282804
*Roberu lol sorry, I was on my phone and autocorrect is a retard

>>2282799
Maybe in the long run she'll be the most popular but in the 1 million race she's more likely to be competing with Matsuri than beating Noel or Okayu

>>2276270
>https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly
Probably a bit naive of me, but I thought the channels would be somewhat evenly represented in all categories.
But it's just the superchats that are so dominated by vtubers. The number of concurrent viewers they get on stream is really small.
I knew some events/channels like SpaceX pulled big numbers, but I didn't think you'd need half a million concurrent viewers to even get into the top100.

>>2284021
>Half a million viewers showing up is 25,000 usd in easy 5 cent views
Honestly, Kuzuha and Pekora's channels might be getting very high payment rates by networks if youtube actually gave enough of a shit to prune viewers for advertisers.

>>2259322
> Sora still not reaching 1m this year

>>2276512
Degeneracy scares away advertisers who bring far more money to youtube than cover ever will. It's a pretty simple concept anon.

>>2284236
Well she's due for January next year so never say never, all you need is one clip to go viral or the algorithm to do you a favor and all these stats go out of the window

>>2282689
At this point you're extrapolating wildly, I would say that any prediction made beyond 1 year is basically meaningless. You have no idea how the scene will look like at such a time frame. Maybe a new vtuber explosion happens, maybe the whole thing dies out like Kizuna Ai did. Don't take these predictions set in stone.

>>2284377
I've been waiting for such a thing to happen for a very long time, but yes, I guess there is always a chance.

>>2282799
> Noel is just giving herself an artificial EOP boost that will burn out fast.
There are only EOPs in her GTA, Duolingo and ASMR streams. Nioh, DQ 11 and MHR chats all still look like Niji channels. Noel was getting 80k subs a month when she was healthy last year, now that she is healthy again and able to stream often her numbers have returned, but you would rather shit on other Holos than look at facts.

>>2284471
Yeah pretty much this, which is why I didn't want to post the 2022 predictions right away, they're much less likely to be accurate than this year's. Still though I think we're most likely due for a period of relative stability barring any major fuckups at Cover or Youtube, the insane explosion of growth last year has slowed down to a much more sustainable rate

Noel competes even with apex kuzuha when shes playing monhun. Dont take this knight lightly.

>>2282799
Anon im a 35p, and I love miko, but her sub increase has tanked. She also doesn't numberfag as much as noel with the endurance singing streams though. nor does she really post much anymore on reddit.

>>2285021
first monhunt stream buff. Lets see how she does next stream.

>>2286762
Probably will match up to him just as well. Kuzuha has reclined quite a bit since his yab. It seems the fujos that watch him were really pissed off.

>>2259322
ねねち…

>>2286762
16k peak viewers.
https://hiyoko.sonoj.net/video-info/61w1MkKgHQY
Actually beat kuzuha LOL.
https://hiyoko.sonoj.net/hourly-summary/2021-04-06

>>2287351
He's just been playing loads of debuff games recently instead of popular stuff. When he plays games people actually want to see like monster hunter, apex and genshin he is still getting his normal 20-30k but he has been playing league and conquerors blade a lot.

>>2287537
She had a huge incline around her redesign reveal but she's now dropped back down to the shitty growth she had before, she doesn't seem to be fazed by it at least but she seems to be a really fun streamer who more people should watch

>>2287685
I remember seeing a few days ago when Pekora had more viewers at the time than fucking Pewdiepie lmao

>>2288079
What site do you use for general YouTuber streaming stats? VNUMA is only for vtubers and Playboard is shit.

>>2284804
Don't forget EN Singers and EN Gen 2 are debuting this year, probably around mid/late-summer, which is likely to spark another explosive increase, though smaller than the initial burst cause by EN Gen 1.

>3D concert + original song for her birthday
>3D concert with Koro-san
>V-Carnival with Koro-san
>2-year anniversary stream with merch announcement
While I'm happy that Okayu got all this stuff out, I'm saddened that the 1 mil is still far away. She never once pandered to EOP and just plays whatever she likes most of the time. Please give cat a chance.

>Aki
>Mel
Why do people think they're doing bad when their numbers are enough to make indies seethe? They don't follow trends or try to be popular. Also their boring for the most part but the numbers aren't bad.

>>2288900
>Aki boring
You are the 35p aren't you?

for me Aki is the most underrated holo desu

>>2273264
Nobody care about hachama since she continues with her shizo arc unless you're newfag coomer,And not 70K on return stream is nothing new as pekora got similar number just for taking 3 days break so 1 Month of silent is not really worth

>>2288899
all these events are too close together as it is. the 1 mil is like 2 weeks away max

>>2289436
I'm amazed she can't even catch up to Mel considering she streams so much more than her

>>2288982
No? I just think she's boring and I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise.

>>2289470
why do you ESLs hate haachama so much?

>>2289578
It's combination of ARK being viewer repellant and Mel getting a boost from collabing with EN and ID2 members

>>2258994
>1. Kagami 3D - $95,310
Funnily enough, that single stream is 1/5 of his lifetime earnings, good for him I guess, dude can put up a show

Aki also got fucked by a huge youtube bug blocking most viewers in all streams, right at the time of her 3D Birthday, making her lose the opportunity to gain subs, scs and fans from casuals checking it out. Now she had a holotalk with kiara, but it isn't the same

>>2291271
Yes, because that would turn her 300k subs into a respectable 700k. Face it, she's just bad and is only there due to early jank from Cover not knowing what they're doing. Now everyone is good and polished.

>>2291271
IMO She kinda dropped the bag by having her first stream post-holotalk get overlapped by Mori's birthday, all the EOPs were paying attention to that

>>2285021
To be fair Kuzuha has reclined heavily in the past two weeks for reasons I'm not entirely certain of. He usually gets 30+k for his apex streams

>>2249754
Yeah, it was really smart of her. she deserve it

>>2291518
iirc I think it's still the effects of the Rindou yab, though I'm sure if fujos are also unicorns

>>2291518
Playing unpopular games mostly. You can see it in his streams today quite clearly. The league stream and conqueror's blade stream get around 15k max viewers. Then the two apex streams get 20k and 28k viewers despite only being half an hour each and probably not reaching their peaks.

>>2270188
Luna has a low sub count but a lot of devoted fans.

Maybe its interesting to your numbers so, the holocoin has launched.

https://nasfaq.biz/

>>2291739
No the recline didn't happen until two week after the rindou yab. It might have played a factor but its not the deciding one.

>>2250858
weekly physical sales
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2021-04-12/p/5/
1,233 copies 42nd

>>2293338
What are the answers to the signup questions? I know ogey, but not the other two.

>>2295143
Chocoball
I don't know the Towa... one

>>2294236
Also 382 digital sales
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dia/w/2021-04-12/p/2/

>>2295230
twap...

>>2292220
530k subs is not low; she's in the top 50 most subbed VTubers.

We are <1 month away from the 2 mil superchat milestone. Rushia and Coco are neck and neck as usual. I wonder who will get there first.

1st Holo album releases in 2 weeks how many units is it going to shift?

>>2295292
Low for Hololive

>>2295292
Hololive messes with everyone’s perspective.
As a vtuber she has a really large channel. As a Hololiver she’s on the bottom end.

>>2249172
Sponsored streams equals 10 or even 100 times normal add revenue and that does not include the flat fee she would take on top of that.
Does not include any multiplier on supas but that why we have the flat fee

>>2299882
What if they both did a karaoke duet 2 million sub race/celebration. Boom, Cover hire this man (me).

>>2315760
Nijiniggers would blow a gasket if they shilled for super chats that openly.........................they should absolutely do it, lol. Nothing pleases me more than seething Nijiniggers.

>>2315760
I hope that happens with Ina and Kiara, the seething on here from the losing side would be hilarious

Explain this to me numberfags, why did holo's overall numbers take such a massive dive in the past couple of months or so?

>>2316073
Viewer counts is down to the Youtube bug, and the subscriber growth slowing down is just a reversion to the mean after the insanity of last year. The fad is dying a little but the hardcore fans who watch every stream and regularly send superchats aren't going anywhere

>>2316201
Hololive also had a ton of huge events last year which inflated numbers. Miko's return was massive, the sports festival is the biggest event they ever did, the height of Peko/Moona and PekoMama. Nothing like that has happened this year.

>>2316275
>Miko's return
Miko
>Sports festival
Miko
>Peko/Moona
Peko
>PekoMama
Peko
>Both Peko and Miko are in the top 5 for all vtubers

It's kind of crazy just how much Miko and Pekora drive hololive. They really are the absolute power couple of hololive.

>>2316201
Youtube bug? Forgive the newfagottry, I haven't lurked here since before the board split. I did notice that superchat revenue was mostly unaffected, but that's not really surprising I guess.

>>2316371
Remember when Akukin looked like it was going to be a cool thing? I wonder how that tara gacha is doing.

>>2316073
Waves come and go anon, the holo numbers are over-all very up compared to the past and they are still all inclining. The one thing the viewers want now is competent gameplay/better viewing experience, in this current period.
FBK's numbers are going back up, and Luna/Ina are inclining notably. Lamy/Botan are too. The Homos are all inclining, with astel gaining a major brunt due to his perfectionist autism streak.

>>2316379
Someone made a thread about it a couple of days ago
>>2253454
To put it simply since December live viewer figures dropped significantly, and if you look at any stream the number of people waiting goes down as soon as the stream starts, sometimes by over half. IIRC Youtube Japan's twitter has acknowledged it as a bug but the US HQ still denies its existence.

>>2316515
So YouTube fucking with Hololive as usual. I used to be against moving to other platforms, but Miko's incursions into Twitch have been so successful I'm starting to have second thoughts.

>>2316515
I was wondering why Reine's PO2 stream was holding steady at 600~ viewers but the thumbs up count was 4 times as high

>>2316751
What would HoloEN number look like on twitch

>>2316785
Probably even better than HoloJPs since the viewerbase is already more familiar with Twitch. Hell, they might do even better than they are doing on YouTube.

>>2316808
Twitch comes with its own set of huge issues though

>>2316437
Akukin has been soulless since day 1

>>2325480
The relay collab they did was ridiculous though, fucking lofi had 37k viewers

>>2325480
It's soulless because Aqua does nothing with it. The relay collab was a fun idea and gathered a lot of viewers. Given the sheer number of different holos in Akukin, it would always be easy to come up with a new event and get some people on board. Aqua was even talking about how she had a lot of ideas for after the HQ was complete, including the salary gacha which was just forgotten halfway through, but then APEX happened. Fuck APEX.