/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22431959
No, let her keep going until she crashes, burns, and betrays her "friends" to join another company AGAIN

>>22431959
OP is a meanie :(

>>22432046
plot twist, she won't quit to join holo
she will join vshojo so that she can reinvent herself as naughty girl and leech from her friend, ironmouse.

>>22432102
She could also do a boyfriend reveal

Know-nothing normalfag here.

What did Rosemi do? I mainly stick with Holo streams, but she was the one niji I really liked.

Dude, what are you on about?

>>22431959
she didnt organize the dont starve collab you fag that was elira

>>22432540
the idea for it came from /rose/, do your archive reps. elira might've organized it but she saw it.

Hey Rosemi I know you are here you should stop parroting Luca's catchprases, sucking his dick off stream is enough of cuckery for me. Also stop doing the weird videogamedunkey talk just because you like his vids. If anything you should drop the seiso act and copy my boy bro team more: https://youtu.be/-IvoSF7pNEc

I heard some bad things ablout Rosemi lying and stuff. Is it true?

>>22432694
>the idea for one of the easiest games to get perms for and one of the definitive multiplayer games to play with a large group that is retarded came from /rose/
Next you'll be telling me they're /here/ because they played Terraria. Oh, or if you're getting spicy, the Calamity mod.

>>22432924
>I heard some bad things ablout Rosemi lying and stuff. Is it true?
Where did you hear about this?

>>22433305
I heard it from a random seanigger on vt

>>22432942
you fucking retard
it's about the stream idea, not about the game
>>17295261
>>19699589
they didn't touch don't starve for months but then SUDDENLY they did a stream that was 1:1 the idea mentioned here:
https://youtu.be/eTzP5_A1l7w
https://youtu.be/4AYGkxU_cyE
at least know what someone is referring to before barking, mongrel

>>22433305
>No /rose/
>The previous /rose/ said not to make a new one for a while so the antis can move on
>everyone is shitting on rosemi in /NijiEN/
>no one seems to believe her for why she isn't streaming
>people here are calling her a lying slut

What happened? Something is obviously going on. Was there a yab? Did doxfags find something?

>>22433397
>I heard it from a random seanigger on vt
Ah yes, the most credible source to get information from lol

>>22433559
The only thing happening is that she's the new pomu since rosebuds were dumb enough to reply to shitposters

>>22433559
Something definitely happened. Other rosebuds are being way too quiet for some reason whenever anyone asks.

>>22433559
People are mad she seems less motivated to stream despite having more time to do so; last weeks was mostly collabs and she has not done postgame zatsus/supa readings. She spends less time with Rosebuds. So even when she is sick, people call her a liar.
>lying
On Monday, she finished playing Sonic and said she was tired/gonna work on Niji company stuff, but went straight to Luca's stream to talk with him almost an hour. And she seemed to have more fun, although it is hard to blame her, the last levels of Sonic Adventure 2 are shit and she stayed longer and played a bit more of the Dark Route, which she never promised she would.

>>22432924
yea good thread got removed >>22425967
cucks will say that this stuff was nitpicking or made up but you need to be pretty dedicated bud to know so much about her lore, including that timestamp from pokemon stream

>>22433559
>>22433710
>>22433799
The other thread said Nina confirmed she met up with Rosemi IRL and so she probably met up with male members as well.

>>22433794
>can't be asked to prepare for her own streams
>look Luca I bought pringles just for you so that i can eat them and review them for you ~
>listen to me eating it om nyom nyom~
Rosecucks not like this =(

>>22433863
Ike? he lives in Canada, spilled the beans during his Apex collab with Vox and Reimu.

>>22433992
>Rosemi actually gunning for Luca
rosebuds...not like this

There have been hints for a little while that there is a couple forming in NijiEN. No one has named any names but there is evidence around.

>>22433992
>isreal
lol what a whore

I want to wape Wosemi!

Hey Rosemi, I know you are here I want to pet your head and call you cute

>>22434506
You mean Mysta and Mika? Old news.

>>22434668
Nah, Rosemi is actually here but sees all the cuckposting so she switched from GFE to CBE

>>22431959
If she was /here/ she should take a note and improve her garbage ass streams of recent note and stop actively shitting on her fans.
Her /vt/ fanbase has all but died out because of her bullshit.

>>22432438
it wouldn't be surprising if she gave birth on stream

>>22435094
she's a spiteful bitch and stubborn one at that. she will convince herself that people shitting on her are just 2 schizos and then cry because her ccv and earnings are on reimu levels. the same thing happened to finana.

>>22433992
she's pathetic

>>22434031
Reminder that Canada looks big, but 99% of their entire population lives within 100 miles of the US border and over 70% lives in the Ottawa/Quebec area.
And over 50% of all Canadians live in this red area. There is a very real possibility that they live in the same city.

Imagine watching NijiEN when literally half their videos are male collabs

>>22433559
It's just built up over weeks and everyone gradually left. Lots of small insignificant things that have turned from minor problems to major character flaws.

>>22435685
Let's be real here: Rosemi has gotten lazy, but the outrage is because her audience is extremely parasocial.

>>22436097
I'm not parasocial, I simply want the entertainment I paid for. Speaking of which, membership streams? Letters? Where are they Whoresemi?

>>22436097
There's nothing wrong with that. She cultivated an audience and then left them hanging so they left her.

>>22436097
that's her fault

>>22435519
The only other large population center is the Vancouver area. Anyone from Holo/Nijisanji that lives in Canada is almost guaranteed to live in one of these two areas.

>>22436240
>>22436470
It isn't. This is also only her /here/ audience.

>>22436514
Vtuber fans are by nature parasocial, it comes with the territory and the nijien girls know it, it's why they do the whole spider web of bullshit to cover up their boyfriends and pretend to be innocent moeblobs irl.
They are playing the game willingly and when they fuck it up its their own loss.

>>22433559
She stopped playing yugioh.
But now she played yugioh again so I like her now.

>>22436514
yup, that's why her comments under the cooking stream are still disabled
>inb4 the bug cope
other chubas reenabled them despite the youtube bug

>>22435121
thats kinda hot honestly
pussy cam when

>>22436703
>She starts stream
>I like her
>she stops stream
>I don't like her

>>22432437
Nothing. She just got a dedicated schizo anti recently. She did work in Tsunderia previously, so said anti is probably one of the 3 tsunderiafags.

>>22432437
Rosemi did what the deed it gon' do.. now assume the position

Rosemi's PL advertised herself here before. Of course she lurks.
She's also the one who tries to steal NijiEN general OPs with Rosemi pics each time, and constantly posts random "Wosemi!" threads.
She's very paranoid that she's burned every bridge and stabbed every back on the way to "making it big" and it hasn't worked out for her.

>>22436846
>i-it's just one schizo.
nigger, even your general is shit ever since rosebuds moved there, multiple people saying she's gone to shit with timestamps below 45 seconds. stop coping

>>22434506
When 90% of streams are coed collab’s & NijiEN has like 20 members. This was bound to happen. You reap what you sow

>>22437157
>She's also the one who tries to steal NijiEN general OPs with Rosemi pics each time, and constantly posts random "Wosemi!" threads.
examples?

>>22433559
/Rose/ chad here, this is kinda what happend

>Everything was fine
>She quits her job
>Buds were happy because that means she could dedicate more time to streaming
>Quite te contrary happens
>She starts getting lazy with her content and streams that used to be great (150k celebration and Rosemi cooking) become really underwhelming
>A lot of collabs
>No members content
>Also no more guerillas even tho she made a lot when she was working
>Buds start to complaining about these things in /rose/
>Some retards claim that these complaints come from 'unicorns'
>Some anons use this to shitpost in /rose/
>These retards cant recognize what it's bait and what it's actual criticism
>/rose/ is suddenly filled with Rosemi hate
>Buds stop making the threads until things calm down

>>22436806
Anons love to their Oshi is limited explicitly to when being online.

>>22437606
>150 celebration
200k*, 150 was amazing

>>22439369
Used to be, meaning 150k and previous cooking streams were great and now well...

>>22437606
didn't read, don't care

Feel like sending her a supa
>Are you freaking it with Luca?

>>22437606
>no members content
No wonder anons shittalked her

>>22431959
Take your meds, pal. Or better yet tell your psychologist you're freaking it over anime girls online.

>>22433559
>/NijiEN/ shitting on Rosemi
thats a lie, the only one thats currently being shit on is mysta because he hates nijien and is against unity apparently.

>>22441296
wait nevermind just checked it, did something happen in the last few hours or something

>>22441381
probably just general anger
she delayed the 250k stream yesterday so maybe people still salty about that.

>>22441264
I did, he said telling lazy bitch to get to work is a normal thing especially if I'm paying for her rent.

>>22435094
I actually don't think that she's here at all but her manager lurks for sure or at least one of her coworkers and through them she gets to know what's happening lately to her image around here. For me, she has not been performing as expected but nothing major to cry about. A lot of the criticism comes from being nitpicky or being a straight up unicorn and also because she became too popular to get her own dedicated antis that bait tourists with their own schizo narratives.

>>22440619
We have seen her reaction to these bait messages back before when she debuted. You'll get your name read and that's all but feel free to try. I think despite looking so innocent she is a master at deflecting.

>>22440619
Do it, you might get a Mori tier reaction

>>22432437
Rosemi antis have been popping up ever since the cooking stream that she ditched to collab with Vshojo.

>>22444477
The outrage came back full force after the pringles review at Luca's. I consider that a situation worth to be criticized for because she was really shady about it. She tried to cut the stream short after completing the heroes side of SA2 because she was feeling unwell and had work to do and we insisted on her staying and play some extra time until she reluctantly accepted. When she was done with that she finished almost immediately and went to Luca's right away and although it was only a mere half and hour if Luca hadn't pushed her off she would've stayed for god knows how long. I guess you could imagine for how long she would've stayed had she finished her stream earlier. This situation could have been easily avoided if she had told us from the beginning she promised to be on his stream for a little but the fact she purposely hide it made people distrust her even more.

>>22444716
I remember someone bringing that up in Rose and making a decent distinction between decent behavior and being shady about your intentions
>>22295109
I would be perfectly fine with option #1. Just fucking tell people what you plan to do and move on instead of acting like that and then crying people call you fake whore in marshmallows.

>>22444877
Exactly. I find it hard to believe her every word after that. It's obvious vtubers always hide stuff but why do that for such a minor thing? The Nina meetup I can understand because she doesn't want to admit she lives in leafland.

>>22444877
Its basically the same way I feel about unicorn shit. I watch an indie who was just talking about how she watched marvel movies with her boyfriend the other day. And I gave no shits because that's a thing normally people do.

But when they go through so many hoops to pretend they're single and scared of men, and then its obvious they're full of shit I'm immediately leaving them because they're clearly trying to lead people on.

Rosemi is too cute for her own good and that's why everyone is so pissy.

>>22446027
She's not that cute even. If anything she's just a knockoff selen.

>>22445356
She doesn't want to lose her paypiggies

>>22447784
She's doing a bad job of it considering people found out literally seconds later.

>>22448156
either her having 0 awareness or not caring, can't decide which one honestly.

>>22448723
So she doesn't want to lose her paypigs and that's why she doesn't care about her paypigs?

>>22448847
she doesn't want to lose the money, but she wants her paypigs to fuck off.
its a woman thing.

>>22448917
Amazing logic

>>22448847
what i mean was - she fucked up with that luca situation either because
1. she has 0 social awareness and thought nobody will consider that behavior rude/dishonest
2. or didn't bother covering her tracks because she knew that her paypigs will just say "they are just friends, POG" like good cucks they are and move on
I doubt she wants to lose her paypigs, every chuba wants. she just treats streaming like her playground where everyone will just go "kya rosemi CUTE" and forgive her everything, just like they do irl. spoiled bitch thing, hard to understand for people here.

>>22449097 (me)
>I doubt she wants to lose her paypigs, every chuba wants
*every chuba wants to have them*

>>22449097
>and thought nobody will consider that behavior rude/dishonest
How shameful of her to not think about the retards

>>22449207
If i told my friend I can't meet him becase I'm busy with work and then he saw me 10 minutes later hanging out with another friend, I'd be ashamed of lying to him. She would probably think she's excused because she was working during the convo or whatever. I think she's the retard here.

>>22449309
Yeah because that's what happened and joining a vc is totally the same as streaming a game, she surely couldn't be doing anything else aside sucking luca's dick and her plan was to sneak out and not be caught because no one would even know about her showing up on another public stream

>>22449552
control yourself, you are having a stroke anon.

>>22449552
>her plan was to sneak out and not be caught
yup, that's why she didn't mention it during her stream. she wanted to flirt with him in peace like a whore she is.

>>22431959

No wonder why it was friendly...

>>22449679
In fact I'm sure she did it just to piss you off specifically

>>22449978
i wouldn't be surprised desu.

>>22449978
don't worry, I calmed down once I saw my 6 months worth of streamlabs donos back on my bank account. Credit card chargebacks are a godsend.

>>22433559
>>22433710

Antis are paranoid after reading threads assuming she's leaving for Hololive

>>22450147
Damn I gotta try that too

im going to remake /rose/ just as containment for you freaks

>>22440990
She did a members stream 2 weeks ago if that counts as recent.

Anyways, I LOVE ROSEMI! I love my oshi! I don't care about retarded nothingburgers that 4chin invents to create drama!

>>22451425
good rosecuck, now hand over condom money, her stream will end in 20 minutes.

>>22451790
I hope she joins some male after so you guys don't have to keep talking about the sonic stream for another week

>>22451837
she has a meeting with her management aka fucking her bf after the stream. remember how she did 15 minutes April Fools Friday stream and bailed for the rest of the day? And then on her stream later only talked about her spring cleaning on Saturday? Yup, date night with cinema, dinner and dicking, all with him.

>>22452117
Yeah, me.

Reading all this shit I now get why /rose/ is not a thing anymore, jesus. Sure, there is criticism you can make. I like Rosemi but she indeed should think more before talking, and she did get a bit laid off since when she got off her job.
But from there to the shit I read here, there is an abyss.

I desu believe the luca thing was a total accident. I mean we are talking of a girl that panicked when ordering a fucking pizza. And other nijiEN, Elira first, confirmed she is exactly as naive and shelthered irl as she looks on stream.
So I don't see why this could not be it.

Still, calm your tits. She needs to get back in the vibe but don't tard out.

>>22452992
>I desu believe the luca thing was a total accident
How is that an accident
It was literally preplanned between her and Luca, people watching Luca's stream knew before we did because he said she'd show up. But Rosemi never mentioned to anyone.

That's not an accident.

>>22453253
You're right, it was on purpose because she hates (you)

>>22453253
I meant it as she wanted to make it a surprise. I think, at least. It seems the type of thing a kind of airhead like her would do.
>try to keep the upcoming collab a secret
>forgets or dies not think to mention it to luca
>luca tells his fans of course
>rosemi does not know luca told this already
>realises she has to find a reason to cut off the stream early
>bullshit up a reason to keep up the facade
>runs to the collab
>later realises luca told the thing already, so this shit was all useless
Seems like a rosemi thing to do.

>>22453576
>She wanted to surprise people
>By showing up on someone else's channel without telling anyone she'd be there
>This is supposed to be a surprise to her fans who would never even know it happened unless a Lucub tells them.

>>22453709
It was a surprise for Luca's fans.
Why the hell would she tell you guys?

>>22453576
Holy shit the cope cuck is unreal.

how's she doing number wise?

>>22453709
Again, airhead.
Did you even see her streams? She needed to be explained how to use a can opener with a video after she broke one twice.
Yes, she IS that dumb. Lack of common sense and self awareness. Elira said this too, after she net her. She literally described her as a Disney princess sorta thing.

>>22454559
dyrbi
and even if it was real, there's a reason people hate people like that.

>>22454718
And yet they all waited until last week to start hating

>>22454803
It takes awhile for the honeymoon period to finally wear off. and she amped it up to 11 in recent days.
and its been like 2 weeks now.

>>22454718
Yes I do, because I know irl a person who is just like that. It is rare, but people that naive and kinda dumb are real.

If you don't like it, fine. Don't watch her. Just don't come here saying it's impossible. Because no, it is very possible.

You can really tell the people on this thread watches rosemi

>>22453855
Except it wasn't a surprise for lucubs either because Luca, unlike Rosemi, told them beforehand.

>>22451790
Why are you a namefag

>>22455337
I know. I'm just saying there's no reason to tell her fans since she knows her fans aren't the ones that'll care about a Luca collab.

>>22455369
Because I am a sad Indonesian who wants to feel special by posting on the famous 4chan

>>22455456
She really is an airhead if she truly believed her fans wouldn't care about her showing up anywhere then. We will never know but I think that she might have omitted it to not upset live viewers as she didn't want to deal with criticisms on stream. That was a mistake because I doubt we will ever see complaining in livechat. Such behaviour it's unheard of in the nijiEN vtuber community.

>>22455801
I'm leaning towards the airhead because it simply lines up with the dozens of other occasions she behaved like a total airhead. Zero common sense.
It is hard to believe people like that still exist in 2022, but it is a possibility. And the more I watched her, the more plausible it seemed.

>>22455456
>she knows her fans aren't the ones that'll care about a Luca collab
no?
pretty sure her fans just want to watch her, so regardless of where she shows up, it's common courtesy to say "ill be here if you wanna watch me"

>>22456026
>>22455801
Being an "airhead" is just a convenient excuse for girls to be autistic and not give a fuck about anyone but themselves.
Its not real, its just people being selfish cunts.

>>22456090
Exactly why I think she did not. Common sense.
Up to interpretation of course, but that's how I see it.

>>22456241
It surely could be.
But when the supposed "act" is so consistent, constant, for months, both alone and in collabs, and even the friends you met with offline confirm it separately on their own streams...
it starts to become too much to believe it is all fake, to me.

How come everyone is so willing to believe that Aqua is an drooling idiot yet so resistant to the fact that Rosemi is an airhead?

>>22457180
They don't believe it, and they'll move from rosemi the next time pomu does something worth shitting up the catalog for a month

>>22457180
Because Aqua is a drooling idiot but is still considerate of her audience (usually)
Rosemi isn't a total idiot and can clearly keep a train of though, as much as she wants to larp as an airhead she can clearly keep focus enough to do large scale projects and do research into things.
So when she does extremely inconsiderate things you can't just chalk it up to her being an "airhead", its just her not giving enough of a shit about her audience to think about them for 2 seconds. Something even Aqua can do.

oh boy a stealth Rose thread!

>>22445356
Its pretty obvious, due to her accent when she speaks french, that shes from Montreal or some shit

>>22435633
luxiem's success just means they'll all try to leech them.

>>22444477
>Rosemi antis
Has it occurred to you that its not "Antis" and instead disappointed fans?
Its like the overuse of the word fascism, when you just blanket everyone you don't like under a term it loses its meaning

>>22461147
>disappointed fans
I'm sure you are

>>22461206
Like actually fuck you
If anything I bet YOU are the fake, just inserting yourself as a "rosebud" to be contrarian and dab on the "Antis" since its many 4channers favorite past time.

>>22461273
Right
btw you're missing some prime content to pretend to be mad at on her twitch stream

>>22461376
I'm missing nothing because, surprise, she is collabing with a male.
If she is collabing with a male I don't watch, simple as.

Rosemi is cute, but I'm unsubbing until she does ASMR again.

>>22435121
Yeah, to me

>>22461376
yeah
>male
>collab
not even a surprise and i'm glad i didn't bother watching it.
lowest effort bullshit.

>>22461513
So you're unsubbing for three days?

>>22433799
that pokemon thing be straight scuzzy. Most people would just be like we can do polls or take random comments not just say "give me money and I'll name the pokemon"

>>22461643
Her last one was 3 months ago, so if she comes back on Sunday that is perfectly fine for me.

Rosemi has 2500 watching her guerilla twitch
where she's waiting more males to join her in Valorant after ending abruptly her TES4 stream for a meeting

Rosecucks /here/ mean nothing in the size of her fanbase
they can just seethe and create more threads

>>22462474
I dont really care. It just makes me sad to see another hobby turn to shit.
Rosemi will keep doing this shit and get rewarded for it because the nijien fanbase is just a bunch of larping normalfags.

She's just leeching the male numbers anyways.

>>22436491
over a tenth of Canada does live in Alberta and basically just in Calgary and Edmonton but culturally it does seem like they're less likely per person to be a vtuber.

>>22462658
>It just makes me sad to see another hobby turn to shit.
Can you explain this pov? Are you a rosebud or just a general NijiEN fan? Did Rosemi disillusion you on vtubing in general?

>>22462658
>hobby turn to shit.
Spoken like a larping 2021 Holotourist.

>>22462765
I was a general niji fan.
Nijien just sucks so much now and I hate it. There's still some sparks of good in there but as a whole it's just so shitty. It was suched a missed opportunity to get the nijijp type culture in the west, but we just got niji-otv.

And it'll never not piss me off whenever these larping nijien fags pretend that nijiJP is like this.

The branch itself is shit and the fanbase is even worse.
Ironically enna is the only one I still have some hope for. But even she participates it the annoyances of the entire group.

>>22463161
Ok but what are your specific grievances with NijiEN?

>>22463161
>Ironically
Why would it be ironic? Because she's the least unicorn friendly? Are you coping because she doesn't do a lot of male collabs just like you did for rosemi when she never pandered to people like you? You should just give up on the company already and go back to whatever hole you came from instead of this daily whining

>>22463161
>Thinks the regular ass streamer he watches are super original and changed the streaming game, just cause muh JP

Meanwhile...

>Its the same shitty basic/boring bullshit you can find from any random Nico liver or Twitch streamer, except theres a cute Moving Jpg you wanna fuck.


Wow they all have the same shitty schedule of "only 1 game a day, therefore i need at least 3 days off time ;^) "
Fantastic.
The only time they ever have a gimmick its almost always just small useless shit like "lore" (which they completely almost never use beyond the first couple months) or the way they speak/voice.

Im really starting to wonder what the fuck is even the point of Vtuber in general if no one is trying to do anything remotely unique, or use to the fullest the idea of "im 2d".
But nope. Jackshit.

>>22463502
I've written essay posts about it in the past. Not worth retreading over and over again.
Tldr. Their content is shit, they don't give a shit about the fans they originally cultivated, and collabs are garbage.
>>22463520
>projection
Yeah not even going to bother because you'll just spew retarded shit about unicorns and how vtubers have always been a normalfag hobby.
>>22463723
And more cope.

That's the problem with nijien fags you're so entitled about this shit but you literally don't know a single thing about the Fandom you've invaded.
It's disgusting.

>>22464046
Sorry it's hard to me to follow if this week is "collab bad" or "male bad"

>>22464046
Nothing changed about nijien since lazulight, not even their collab culture, they're also not changing anything on the jp side if you want to larp as some og fan offended at how they do their thing, it sounds like you're the one lost here

>>22464046
>I've written essay posts about it in the past. Not worth retreading over and over again.
Anon I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but it's hard when you don't give specific complaints. But hey nobody's forcing you to do anything. I was just curious about someone else's pov.

>>22464252
Almost as if multiple things are bad and some weeks certain aspects take a bigger role because it's more prevalent at the time.
Just because something new happens doesn't mean the shit that happened 2 weeks ago is forgotten.

>>22464352
I wonder...why do some anons larp as og fans in the first place? What does that even accomplish? It's such a weird thing to do.

>>22463161
>>22463161
Nice try, holokike. If you are really a Nijifans, you would have used with this kind of thing. Ship is common in Nijisanji like Ars-Ebio, Gunkan, MayuUiha, Kanaeboshi. Mixed groups is also common like Rena-Shachou-Hakache, Blues (MayuUihaArs). Night Kingdom (Tomoe-Gwelu-and Iforgotwhatishisnsme) even offpako is common both same gender and mixed. I cannot imagine what happened if you found out about Naraka and Puti who their stream are most of the time with males outside Nijis. Now you can stop falseflagging, holokike.

>>22464794
They think pretending to be jp fans somehow give credence to their shitposting, a new one is also pretending to be a day one fan since people saw one or two fags who were membered breaking containment on pomu's chat during the offcollab schizo saga

>>22464498
If you want something more specific on why nijien is bad sure I can be a sperg again but I'm going to sleep after this.

It's many things desu so in part I'll just have to be brief.

How they treat the males vs females for example, this is a larger topic I could go into more detail but it'd be way too long so ill just be taken out of context here. Tldr just compare the exposure and push ethyria got as opposed to lux. There was so much effort in pushing lux while ethyria got the shit end. And while there's no way of knowing if things are mandated or not you can still feel a heavy male push in many areas. If you don't want to watch the males you didn't really have a choice for awhile. And even the more solo oriented ones will keep parroting memes from them so you're never really free of the influence.

Collabs being Overdone. People will point to lazulight at the start but even then they had less than we were getting the past few weeks. And there a huge difference between a group of 3 people in minecraft, and a group of 20 people interchanging constantly, especially when you don't care for the majority of them. And back to male vs female, the fanbase is not the same. Blame unicorns or fujos or whatever, but fans of Luca typically aren't fans of Enna, they might not hate each other but they won't get anything out of a collab between the two because they don't like Luca. And they probably like Enna because she goes on long rants and is funny on her own, both of which completely disappear when she collabs and she immediately loses her appeal.
Thats not to say all collabs are always bad, but the way they handle them are bad and just feels like they're trying to wring out every drop from an idea. Which goes into those off-collabs. The first one was great and the surprise guest felt special. Then they repeated it twice in less than 2 weeks and it immediately got old. That's not going into the bullshit of uki even, just how all 3 happened at once felt so fucking forced and dull, like they had the idea and just wanted to milk it all at once.
Thats really what nijien feels like in many ways, theyre just trying to pump and dump ideas as fast as possible and ditch it once it's dried. It's part of content creation but it's just so blunt and surface level in their case.

The unity shit is dumb too. There's 20 people were not going to watch then all. Even with 6 it was silly to expect us to care for all of them. Buf now they expect us to like all 20. That isn't happening and I straight up hate half of them. So constantly acting like we should like everyone equally gets grating.

Gameplay focus sucks. Video game streams are usually terrible. There's exceptions of course, but 99% of the time it sucks. But 90% of the streams are just video games.

They don't really seem to care or respect their fanbases either. At the start they did but as things moved on its felt more like they're going to do what they want and if fans don't like it they can fuck off. They don't even have marshmallows open anymore. Often times it feels like they're actually being intentionally hostile to the people who complain here and doing it to egg people on for not liking their content anymore.

Last I'll mention because phone posting sucks. And this is basically just the unity meme one again.
It's really stopped feeling like you follow anyone in nijien. You're supposed to follow the group as a whole. And idgaf about the group. I want the 2-3 streamers I like and I'll focus on them. But in nijien I don't feel like I can do it.
With nijijp I can watch toko, and just get toko. At most I'll get ange and lize too but those collabs are rare and it's with the 2 who are close friends with her so it works.
In nijien I can watch rosemi, then it's rosemi + 3 luxium guys. Or I watch pomu and finana, and suddenly for some reason uki is there.
Or even pre lux, I'd watch literally anyone and suddenly Nina is there spouting her retarded honeys every 3 seconds.

I had something else to say but it's midnight and I'm brain dumping.

>>22464859
>even offpako is common
Yeah I'm not even going to bother telling you why what you're saying is stupid.
This by itself is why I hate you fags for pretending to know anything about the JP side.

>>22465980
Cool, it sounds like you never liked the majority of their content to begin with but was putting up with it for some reason and now is too pissy because they interact with people you personally dislike, maybe you should try moving on with your life instead of hitting your head on the wall and wanting everyone to know about it

>>22465980
>The unity shit is dumb too.
Unity isn't about watching everyone. It's about not shitting on those you don't watch just because you don't watch them.

>They don't even have marshmallows open anymore.
Because they would get flooded with anti marshmallows. If you hung out in the NijiEN general back when marshmallows were open, you would see antis post messages that they sent in. And of course, nothing was ever done to curb their behavior.

>It's really stopped feeling like you follow anyone in nijien. You're supposed to follow the group as a whole. And idgaf about the group. I want the 2-3 streamers I like and I'll focus on them. But in nijien I don't feel like I can do it.
That's on you. Even back in the Lazulight era, the girls would say that Nijisanji isn't about following everyone, but rather seeking out the ones you like.

>>22465980
The manifesto on why Nijisanji will ALWAYS fail. Keep up the good work agent.

The crazy thing is that she won over /rose/ with her magical girl karaoke and the yugioh tournament, people were feeling good about her again. Then she destroyed that good will with how she handled monday.

I wish hololive had Master Duel perms so I wouldn't have had my heart broken by nijis.

>>22467275
Maybe it's because you fags are expecting some sort of pandering she never did, since instead of being happy you get more rosemi after she ended her 4 and a half hours long stream you just got butthurt because "oh no collab AND male, my two biggest boogeymans"

>>22467500
Posts like these make me wait in anticipation for when the luxium fujos finally become mods and just start banning people for daring to not want to watch their favorite girl sucking dick on stream.
I can already see this place becoming Tumblr. It'll be fun to watch it burn.

>>22467500
bro I dont even care about the chips on Lucas channel.
I enjoyed the sonic stream and I want to see her cover Live and Learn again some day.

also holy shit its been 5 months since she last played it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqAgm8e4FWQ

>>22462658
At some point anon you are going to have to come to the realization that Niji has chosen the path of normalfaggotry, either ride out the mediocre storm or find someone new to watch.
I don't even mean Hololive either, if you want go for it but thats not what I am implying, I mean go find a Indie you like and stick with them.

>>22465980
I'm the original anon you replied to. Thanks for taking the time to write this out bro. I appreciated reading this even if I don't agree with you. Hope you have a good one.

>>22469199
They never will

>>22465980
>It's really stopped feeling like you follow anyone in nijien. You're supposed to follow the group as a whole.
This is something that bothers me because I'm always hearing nijifans say that their huge number of livers isn't a problem, because with nijisanji you can just pick and choose who you like and ignore the rest. Like hell you can do that, that's a complete lie as far as nijiEN is concerned.

male collabs are the bane of nijiEN. they're all fucking boring.

We have to pressure this fucking whore and Ike to spill the beans. Is this why she is suddenly "living" in America? Is that why Ike no longer comments on being a Swede? Cause they're fucking dating?
Next time she talks about an off-collab, casually ask how meeting Nina went via dono

>>22465980
Ignoring the fact that you basically admitted that you weren't around for SEEDS without actually saying it...

A good chunk of NijiJP are normies who stream, while NijiEN are streamers at heart since before they were in NijiEN.
Collabs come naturally to streamers. This part of the branch's culture arises not due to some form of peer pressure, but from within themselves.
So if you don't like that, you actually just don't like them. Rosemi or whoever the fuck else you like have the option to not put up an empty discord call while doing solo stuff, but they choose to do that.

Isn't the entire reason for having there be livestreams and memberships and everything is to appeal to your fans directly? If your fanbase is constantly third-wheeling then you're kind of failing at that. You don't have to be romantically interested in either of the other two parties to think that being the third wheel is a waste of your own time.

>>22467240
lol.

>>22472559
>casually ask how meeting Nina went via dono
fuck off beggar, spend money on that whore yourself

>>22461442
Kek ok simp.

>>22474297
Wrong buzzword tard

>>22442456
Honest question: why should she or her manager care about this board?

>>22474549
Biggest schizos that might be cooking up some raids or doxxing her because they are upset. Happened with finana and millie

>>22474596
Forgot to add that it is especially important for her since she basically doxxed herself back in miki days. I would lurk just to know what schizos here are aware of.

>>22472559
Based

So the stupid idea of that DST collab came from here
Why i'm not fucking surprised
fuck you rosemi for taking you retarded fans idea from /here/ of all places

>>22474797
The idea was fun, it's just them being retarded and doing 0 prep. Just fucking wing it and hope for the best, niji collab philosophy. Same with Town of Salem collab, didn't even check if they can make rooms.

>>22474834
No. Not even NijiJP is THIS scuffed.

>>22474834
>Same with Town of Salem collab, didn't even check if they can make rooms.
The game supports 7-15 people, and supports Private Rooms (which they used)
What's retarded is that if you don't fill your private room, the server will automatically insert randoms to fill out the rest of the slots, and there is no way to turn that off. Even for PRIVATE ROOMS.

>>22474834
>battle royale where they can respawn infinite number of times as long as they go to the gate
that's like... the first thing you notice once you boot up the coop, they didn't even bother turning the game on before starting the collab. takes 5 minutes to check and come up with a rule to overcome it (limited number of respawns per team/don't use the gate to respawn/one person can respawn only 1 time and that's it).The fact that none of them did that and they just ended up doing basic bitch DST stream shows how little effort they put into stuff like that.

>>22474966
I get your point that it's on the game but it's on them to check that before the collab instead of starting the game and being surprised nothing works the way they expected.

>>22464859
ESL-chama....

>>22445356
I don't think she lives in leafland at the moment since she mentioned having to go through customs for the Elira meetup. Might have lived there at some point though.

Main reason I stopped my membership is simply because her stuff hasn't been up to par compared to what it used to be.
Whatever the reason for that may be is of no real concern to me, I'm only there to be entertained.

>>22475732
>is simply because her stuff hasn't been up to par compared to what it used to be.
Like she isn't putting the effort that she used to or that her content isn't as entertaining as it used to be?

>>22432694
Meds. Lmao

>>22473443
I think she might have become more conscious about this as she started to read chat out loud during major collabs i.e TTT, Crab Game and even smaller ones like the recent twitch Valorant impromptu collab. Today was a good example of her trying to make everyone happy because she started with the intentions of streaming alone and only after everyone asked for her to call another members is when she decided to play with them (she even queued up alone before chat stopped her) While playing she kept on reading as best as she could and to be a good friend played one more game, she literally said "I feel bad for inviting you only for one game" and then after that was finished some people in the chat were asking for one more but she ended it there. After that, she went on to play SAP (a zatsudan game) to spend a little bit more time alone with the buds. Today you could tell she wanted to appease everyone, whatever the reason behind it I think that's a good sign. To put the cherry on top she finally archived the vod.

>>22476978
>literally proven couple messages later
>"m-meds"
nice buzzwords fucktard

>>22477060
I mean stuff like valorant, apex or lol are fucking team based games, if someone complains that she streams them and people want to join they are fucking schizo, i'd rather watch her playing with people she can communicate with rather than fucking randoms. the only problem for me are fags crashing her solo streams, don't need that when i wanted to watch her doing solo stuff.

>>22475325
I think the customs was a made up story to cover up where she lives simply because everything else points at her living in Canada. However that's not concern for me but it's the best reason I can think of as to why she would not mention meeting up with Nina. That hag had no trouble saying it tho kinda fucked up if Rosemi really was trying to conceal her location.

>>22477060
Yea as someone said i don't mind her gathering people for team based games, it's people crashing her solo content being the problem.

>>22477329
The only invasions I can think of are the 200K celebration and the cooking stream maybe, because that was already planned but she fucked up the timing of the pizza. Both examples are not really that big of a deal considering they are very rare. The point of my post was to show that Rosemi doesn't seem to hate her audience or solo streams at all, she simply goes with the flow and tries to appeal to everyone at the same time while awkwardly messing up sometimes. That's my take for other buds that might have bought into the schizo narrative that she's some kind of lying, lazy slut that doesn't care about anything but herself.

>>22477060
Too late the damage is done, it's over for her

>>22477831
I don't think so doomposter-kun. As proven before her magical girl karaoke and a good schedule can appease the buds or whatever is left of them here. I will give you that tomorrow will be a make it or break it situation for some. Whether she will want to spend more time with the buds or her branch congratulating her and what she says during her usual emotional speech. She might even address some of the criticism she has been receiving lately like the lack of members letter, the amount of collabs, the short cooking stream, the sneaky pringles review or the nina meet up which is highly unlikely but not entirely out of question (we have seen Finana do so before for example) In any case, I personally prefer she doesn't do it and just spends a good time with whoever makes her happy.

>>22476825
A combination of both, really.
The effort thing feels like it's more of an objective truth, whereas whether or not her current content is less entertaining is for each person to decide.

rosemi will be fine.
assblasted cucks that think she's some fragile snowflake that can't take any criticism are braindead and likewise shitposters that think she is finished because of having some heat on her are also braindead.

the simple fact is this. i will, no matter how much you cry, criticize any liver who i feel does something retarded or starts to get overly lazy/not care about the content they're putting out, or if they show disdain for their fanbases.
cope all you want, real criticism can only ever result in better things for everybody involved.

pomu has been under the burner for a while and she's endured through it and has been doing much much MUCH better now. quality content, not over collabing with males and instead pandering to her fanbase and we love her for it.

same thing will happen with rosemi. contrary to popular belief, the majority of people 'talking shit' right now just don't like the direction things have been going but they can easily be fixed and any fans she loses will return and those that stayed but are disgruntled with her current direction will be happy and joyful again.
when rosemi, or any of the other girls for that matter, are playing a team based game like valorant as she did last night, we all want her to play with a group, there's no reason for her to play something like that alone and she shouldn't feel like she needs to.
situations like that are fine and i enjoyed those games despite it being all guys + rosemi.

when it becomes a problem is when she does a cooking stream, doesn't really show much because she didn't plan it out properly (genuinely, all we essentially saw was her rolling some dough and then the final product later on)
and then joins a big chaotic collab when people would have much rather have seen just a simple rosemi cooking + talking to her fans sort of stream. a pizza was a pretty bad choice of food to go for because of many factors but again that is all easily fixable stuff.

>>22474311
>obsessing over some chick behind a cartoon character that you know you will never fuck know matter how many times you sub or praise her to the point of getting mad that she interacts with other men
kek simp

>>22472779
>you weren't around for SEEDS
80% of their fans weren't. Stop acting like you had to have been there from day 1 to be a fan. And I highly doubt you were either.
>They're streamers vs normies
Even if I go go twitch collabs are a rarity unless we're talking esports. Most streamers main solo content.
>if you don't like every single thing they do then you hate them and need to leave
Good outlook to have anon. Enjoy your circlejerk

Pink woman bad

>>22478998
>80% of their fans weren't. Stop acting like you had to have been there from day 1 to be a fan. And I highly doubt you were either.
I don't need to have been there. There's actual ex-SEEDS members saying that NijiEN is what SEEDS used to be.
Thinking on it, I've heard similar things said about NijiID. They already proved that the Niji branches don't adhere to the NijiJP model, so your observation is kinda outdated to begin with.