/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22399283
She's ok

i don't not like her

>>22399283
She can be very cringy sometimes

Because she is unbearable to watch at times

If I didnt hate her I wouldnt want to fuck her so badly and that isnt fun, its complicated

>>22399283
She doesn't care and tries to hard to pretend she does.

I like her.

>>22399283
I don't care for her voice or her manner of speech. She also seems embarrassingly unaware of her words/actions, so I don't think she's malicious or anything just really retarded.

>>22399283
She referred to Calliope Mori as "her model".

>>22399283
I don't don't like her, I just like shitposting on /vt/ no hard feelings haha, getting banned by tranny jannies just a bonus

>>22399283
Lean

>>22399283
you can tell she used to be "the girl next door" when she was younger, but some bad shit must have happened because her entire being has changed for the worse over the years. Theres a part of her that wants a trad wife life, but her career decisions and delusional ambitions ruined that possibility

>>22399283
I don't like her autistic wigger character and she's a charisma vacuum in most collabs who actively brings everyone else down

>>22399283
Cringe wigger

>>22399283
Legit ditches kiara and their ship because she finds it cringe even though it’s all kayfab but this bitch doesn’t care about her friends and how this makes them look bad.

>>22399486
i can save her

>>22399486
She likes Asians enough to move to Japan she’s anything but a “tradwife” literally schizo tier shit.

>>22399283
Forgot to call in on Ame's birthday... TWICE

>>22399508
Takamori is cringe and Kiara is a desperate whore who can’t kayfabe to save her life.

>>22399283
I hate her voice and how she talks. Her music is ok tho

i hate femcelsanji more

>>22399633
>she’s anything but a “tradwife” literally schizo tier shit.
read the last sentence in my post again. Also nice dubs

>>22399486
meds

>>22399853
Still don’t see it. She wants to be a musician that’s already above tradwife material. I doubt that was ever the case honestly . I’m sure she wants to “settle down” eventually though

>>22399283
She's an awful streamer with shit taste in music, poor taste in games, a voice I can't stand to listen to, and a stupid cringy model I wouldn't have liked when I was a 12-year-old edgelord. Also her music sucks. Mori is the only vtuber I dropped minutes into their debut

She's cringe as fuck, I wish she was more like Irys or Kiara.

Shes an alcoholic drug addict

>>22399283
>often cringe
>socially awkward (can't read the mood)
>wigger
>rap
>bitch (i remember a collab where chubbas were teasing her about some shit and out of nowhere she shits on Gura as a way to fucking deflect or smth. it's stuff like that)
>bitch (receives supas, when she doesn't like the message she insults the guy, tell him to get a refund if possible, instead of ignoring)
>unprofessional about trolls (no matter how many times she fucks this up, she will not ignore trolls, when she should. This must be very annoying for her audience)

that's about it. i don't really hate her as a person though

I mostly just watch JPs, and the few times i've seen her interact with them, she treats them like retarded toddlers in a way that really rubs me the wrong way

>>22400026
You already have two esl whores with bad numbers that suck at music. Why make another holo suffer?

>>22399283
She treats her "friends" like special ed students.

>>22399283
I’m jealous. And I don’t think she deserves her success.
I’m hatman btw

>>22399283
She farted and shitted on livestream

>>22399283
don't like rap
and her gaming streams make me cringe

She has a record deal with universal while your talentless oshi does not and she makes vt seethe everyday

>>22399283
wigger

>>22399393
>She doesn't care and tries to hard to pretend she does.
She is very, very bad at pretending too. I have never seen a vtuber put on a faker nice voice than her.

>>22400135
>implying there aren't three

>>22399283
>Hard mode
Apparently wasn't very challenging anon. People hate her for plenty more reasons than the strawmen you constructed there.

>>22400915
I know but it’s very telling they’re dumb fucking reasons as I thought . I don’t even like her much myself

>>22399283
She ruins my kino collabs with council and/or hope by being loud, obnoxious and making everything about her. It's like she can barely read the room. I wonder how she's doing I'm Japan where kuukiyomi is one of the most basic skills you need, or maybe she's getting a free pass because shes american and white and the Japanese idealize them.

>>22399283
Every word that comes out of her mouth sounds disinterested and ingenuine or even outright mocking

>>22401207
Ywnbj

>>22399283
loud, obnoxious, talks like a retard, her music is shit

>>22399283
I don't mind her. I have a lot of respect for her since she mogged Gura.

>>22399283
Forces conversations to
> Shrek
> Alcohol
> Jojo
> Sandler
> Jumpking
> Alcohol
And if the conversation gets too girly
> Fat albert voice

>>22399283
>No mention of males. No mention of TT.
Males are the only reason I have to hate vtubers
I don't care about content. I don't care about voices. Unless they're so awful that they wouldn't have viewers anyway, I don't really care about personalities. I don't care about meta shit like membership content or roommate activity.
If I like a girl (and it's pretty easy to like a girl, because I'm heterosexual) then I'm going to enjoy watching her be a girl that is spending time with me, because girls choosing to be with me over other men is based (since I am the man that is better than all other men). If a girl spends time with other men, she is failing to recognize that I am better than all other men, and that makes her wrong and cringe, which means I rightly don't like her.
You precluding males is non-sense because it's literally like saying "tell me why you don't like her, without mentioning things that exist". It doesn't work like that

>>22399283
>repeats any joke or reference until every bit of funny is drained from it, then keeps going
>constant drinking and alcohol talk - drinking is fine but not a replacement for a personality, especially when it's clearly impacting her work
>often brings down collabs she participates in because of unpreparedness, lack of tact and the points above
she used to be my favorite but ended up filtering me hard. glad she has some REAL deadbeats to support her, hope she doesn't collab too much with my oshis

>>22399283
>Hard mode: Don't mention the things that make her disliked.
Everything else is tolerable.

RM is a menhera

>>22401365
You should watch a movie they have better actors

>>22401207
>making everything about her
It is one of her conversational weak points for sure. She can’t listen well or let other people expand on their ideas.
>Kiara: Did any of you get fooled on April fools
>Ame: Well-
>Mori: yeah, dude, have you heard about this thing I did on my channel that you can go check out right now, I totally got fooled hard!
Kiara: …

she actually ok for me. my holoEN gen 1 ranking

Ina>Ame>Gura=Mori=Kiara

>>22401668
Oh you like to sleep nice anon

>>22399283
shes incredibly cringe while also acting like shes above it all

>>22401668
nobody cares about your 0 talent bitch teacuck, this is a place for idolfags

1.6M subs but only 200k views for the cover, what a fucking shame

>>22401668
For me it's:
Ame>Ina=Mori=Kiara>>Gura

>>22399283
Way too easy Cuckbeat.

•Constantly lies to other Holos to avoid saying no.
•Alcoholic
•Lean
•Wigger
•Music
•Repeatedly lying to Kiara and defending her lies when called out
•Her disrespect, disregard, and purposeful subversion/undermining of Idolculture
•Disrespect of her fans
•5%
•Joining Hololive purely for financial/music career advancement, and to outdo her friends
•Her refusal/failure to improve her Japanese while in Japan, and while being tutored(at least for the first few months after debut)
•Playing x "WITH FRIENDS"

I hope she puts out some more yabs, those are always good entertainment.

>>22402590
All this idol culture bullshit but her music alone is better than most “idols” in Hololive. And brought more attention to Hololive as a whole. We can talk about gura but she’s not “idol” like in the least and if she wasn’t such a lazy whore could have kept up streaming as her roommate

>>22402822
I don’t think you’d feel pain after a sudden fast beheading like that

>>22399283
I hate her voice, I hate her personality, I hate her music and the thing I hate the most is her fans.

>>22399292
First post is okay post.
I agree she's okay.

>>22402700
she wouldn't be where she is now without the "idol culture bullshit" to springboard her to fame, you should be kneeling for the JP branch that gave your oshi the opportunity to break out of obscurity and menial labor instead of ragging on the reason for her success in a desperate attempt to not appear "cringe" and claw back some street cred

>>22399283
Extremely unprofessional

>>22399283
she's not sitting on my face and insulting me at this very moment

>>22399283
Her personality and mannerisms.

>>22399283
she's cringe and her "cool and quirky" gives off "not caring and lazy" instead. she ruins every collab she's in and i doubt she will or even desire to change herself

>>22399283
I watched her Doom playthrough in one sitting

>>22403468
Jp branch can suck a cock, you will never be Japanese, and Mori’s music and output shits all over Hololives best.

That's not hard mode, i never even consider those and i can still write an entire essay of reasons. I'm sure you've heard them all before though, and my oshi wouldn't approve of my actions

>>22404222
>unironically liking the cringe white girl jrap
lmao

>>22399283
Her personality is unbearable. She constantly flips between LARPing as a sickeningly fake nice person and a calloused bitch (her real personality). I can recognize and respect that she's a hard worker, but I would not want to spend 5 minutes in a room with her under any circumstances.

>>22404272
Universal does

>>22401292
I never thought I'd see the day Mori gets shitted on for the same reasons as Kiara.

>>22401351
This

>>22404307
Universal likes money. You can drop the hottest turd on the planet, if you get 100 million views on it they'll pick you up

Kind of cringe and obnoxious

I like her because she makes her tranny antis on /vt/ seethe. The fact that she's a Ghost troll makes me respect her more. Fucking based feller. Truly the nigger of nippon

>>22404497
So 100 million people like her music or find it worth checking while you’re shitting up my thread. I don’t get your point

>>22404290
Schizophrenia and aspergers is one hell of a combo. You have completely failed to read between the lines. Anyone who sees her attitude as "bitchy" is high on the spectrum, ESL or both.

>>22404546
>Truly the nigger of nippon
At least you're right about something

I don't don't like her, just that she's not as fun to watch for me as other 'idols' in her gen or anywhere else

>>22404578
bro stick to one insult if you can't handle many

>>22404570
The turd had a random number, if you really thought 100 million people like Mori you're retarded. Also each view isn't one person retard, the 30 million she's gotten in her most listened song is 80% repeats. And i can't shit up a thread that was already shit.

>>22399481
Facts. It's like 10 times more likely to get the hammer when shitting on mori compared to literally everyone else.

Mori is a little annoying, but deadbeats are a cancer on earth

>>22404768
Cope seethe etc. Mori’s music is obviously appealing to a lot of people and you’re a seething nigger who should hang from a noose

>>22404832
It's still shit

>>22404832
a million flies love shit, cuck

>>22399283
her tendency to put no effort in any collab, not even the ones she arranged, while trying hard to make it pass as ironic, she cant pull the "too cool" at all and it just comes as disrespectful towards any collab partner.

>>22404578
Sounds like you're just pedestalizing a massive cunt of a woman who has revealed her true self many times already.

>>22400867
I just assumed she's unironically autistic

>>22404946
She is definitely extremely autistic, some of the girls are a bit autistic but none is more obvious than Mori. There's some fine autists out there though she just doesn't handle it the best

Her music is cringe.

>>22399283
too cringe, not enough kino while being self-aware

>>22402700
>but her music alone is better than most “idols” in Hololive.
That's fucking bullshit and anyone agreeing is a fucking faggot with the shittiest taste. Mori doesn't have a single good song in her repertory, bad raps with cringe lyrics and mediocre mixing at its best. And surely you fucking cuckbeats will defend this with
>muh numbers
But let me remind you that shittier songs like a Despacito or Baby are between the most viewed and liked videos on YouTube while being a fucking offense to the music industry. So no, numbers aren't a valid metric to defend if something is good.

>>22405049
despacito is a banger

wigger

>>22405049
Yeah well like, that’s just the opinion of someone not signed to universal ya know

Maybe I'd give her a chance if she did metal instead of rap and dropped the fake acting (or improve it so it would be believable)

>>22405173
Get better bait. Arguing isn't fun when i feel bad for you

I don't hate Mori but it did really turn me off when I realized how little she actually knows about hip hop
Kinda makes her come off like a poser

>>22405228
>metal
Get with the times gramps

>>22399283
The kiara king cover thing and how she assumes everyone is as comfortable as her about things. e.g. outside collabs.

>>22399283
>Why don’t you like her?
>Hard mode: No mention of males. No mention of TT.
I was just shitposting
she’s autistic like me

>>22405240
Better bait is even suggesting mori hasn’t made a single good song.

>>22405255
>munchies
>lean
kek

>>22405255
That's why she's a wigger. She has no actual respect for the medium and just listens to Eminem and then tries to act street when she's never been around those types of people. It's just sad to be honest.

>>22405348
If you get baited by facts that's on you

>>22405361
>actual niggers itt
Mori makes better song than any of your “real” hip hop head or lyrical lemonade fuck boys

>>22405114
Fuck off, José.

>Allegedly loves Japanese Rap
>Even moves to Japan to "live the dream"
>Has put zero into learning Japanese
Mori is the definition of a surface level wannabe. There's a reason why she's a wigger.

Is this just a bait thread for OP to try and argue away their obviously poor taste in music?

>>22405530
Yeah, at least he's responsive, it's helping kill time in these dead hours. He can cope and seethe and i can be entertained until i decide to sleep

>>22405284
No you
The death motif would fit a metal sound track, I think.
Have some unrelated mongools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWzaUkMvfZE

>>22405437
Your oshi literally wishes she was a nigger

>>22405530
>>22405569
Cursed night, end of life and live again are legitimately good songs. Even by vtuber Hololive standards. If you don’t agree I question YOUR taste. Liking her other work I’d say is more subjective but she definitely has an appealing voice and niche in the scene

>>22399486
All women want the trad wife life, environmental pressure just makes that seem wrong and the object of scorn, both of which women can’t handle at all

She's legitimately cringe in the way she talks and generally behaves. You can say all vtubers are cringe if you want, but she's more. I literally can't watch her for very long without feeling the need to leave or at least look away from the screen.
Also fuck your hard mode, the TT shit is another legit reason to dislike her. Though it seems to be kinda gone for the time being.

>>22405652
All I'll give you is that her music suits her persona. Unfortunately her created persona is also shit.

>>22405652
Shut the fuck up, Mori. You suck.

>>22405652
>Even by vtuber Hololive standards
This is the biggest sign that you have shit tastes, if you really think hololive music is high standards. The only good original song in all of hololive is Unison, the rest is generic pop shit and Mori's vomit.

>>22399283
It legitimately blows my mind you think that's a hard-mode, those things are symptoms of why people don't like her, not the reason itself. If the things people didn't like about her were males and TT, they could watch 95% of her content and have no problems and just skip that shit. That wouldn't be enough to hate her. But it turns out there's a reason why she does those things and those reasons are fundamental to her personal character and that's present in all her content.

>>22405859
>Unison
Stopped reading

>>22399283
>sucks at games
>sucks at karaoke
>tweets like a typical spoiled Amerimutt white female
>her lyrics are cringe
>always too cool for the room attitude even in collabs
>has no respect for fancucks or other fan bases
>constantly shutting down he gen mates except Ina
>acts like she's above the discussion during collabs
>dunks on others when they bring up topic trying to make the chat interesting
>can't take any criticism
>taste bud of 9 yr old
>speaks to JP like they're retarded
>meme grifter, doesn't even understand why Adam Sandler and Shrek are memes but repeats it anyway for maximum grift
>fuck your jump king challenge
>alcoholic
>joins idol/entertainment company without any respect or interest in the industry
>stole job from her friend who actually deserved it
>lives in JP for years and still speaks like a foreigner

>>22405896
Yeah, My Song is better

>>22405859
ok be honest, you just cummed to the onegai choose me part

>>22399283
Because she has been an Incredibly bad Friend to all the other Girls

A lot of complaints I’ve seen have summed up to “she hurt my oshis feelingsssss!” Or “I’m a bitch and mori upsets me when she says rude things”. I’m starting to think this board is underage

>>22406139
I mean, sucking the penis of a woman who hates you is pretty immature behavior on your part. Did you ever consider most people who feel strongly about something like vtubers are either underage or developmentally disabled?

>>22399283
her constant mentions of alcohol and getting drunk annoy me. there was no reason to mention her nearby bottle of whiskey in the twister collab

>>22405652

>>22406247
Thats funny because mori probably likes her fans more than anyone in myth. Hopefully you’re not a teamate or god forbid a tako

>>22399283
she's cringe, she sings rap and she sounds like a dub voice actor of a shitty anime without budget, like ghost stories

>>22406363
t. a REAL deadbeat

>>22406300
lmao all early 20s conversations go in order of precedence: party last night, how drunk you were, how drunk you intend to get

>>22406442
Real enough to know her autistic tweets don’t mean what you’re implying

>>22399283
I hate both nigger and wigger

>>22406528
Most content creators aren't retarded enough to make a tweet separating the fans who saw a stream and the ones who didn't into real and fake fans

>>22399283
Her trash attitude. She's on an "idol" company, so she has to adapt to the idol culture
>Bu-but Coco
She was an entertainer, and got a free pass

>>22406570
Ok And Mori’s retarded. What’s the argument

>>22406625
>Mori’s retarded
This was the argument, she is retarded

>>22402700
>her music alone is better than most “idols” in Hololive
>I-if I say it over and over it will become true, r-right guys?
>brought more attention to Hololive as a whole
>implying its a good thing even if its true which it is not
Don't care about your headcanon, provide proof
>we can talk about gura
We're not, we're talking about Mori
Ever wonder why everyone hates you birthcontrolbeats? If you'd just stfu and enjoy your oshi in peace no one would care, but you have to act like a loud retard just like the whore you worship. Fans reflect the streamer

>>22406714
Ok but she still likes her fans more than most of myth barring kiara

>>22406720
>birthcontrolbeats
The birth control is going to waste. Connor would never fuck her when he has that sweet Shibuya Kaho pussy on stand by

>>22406720
Cuck shitposting immediately dismissed

>>22404570
>views = good
>my thread
lol, lmao even

>>22406744
Lmao okay. You believe every rrat you read huh?

>>22406818
Looks like baby shark is the pinnacle of music
Roflmfao

>>22406793
>oh yes give it to me hard Anon/Connor! tehee tehee tehee

implying anyone would fuck that retarded landwhale nobody that has any selfrespect would she would not only shit on you for it shes also not attractive at all

>>22406818
kek

>>22406857
I hope you're not a deadbeat, cause if you're calling Kaho an ugly landwhale then I don't know what Mori is

>>22399283
Nijisanji Adjacent

>>>>22406962
My bad for being unclear i apologize anon i meant Mori with my post

>muh autism
Cuckbeat cope, she's THE most annoying holo, everything that comes from her whore mouth is just pure fucking cringe

>>22399283
She's just unbearably cringeworthy. I cannot stand her "yikies~", "big ups" or any of her retarded speech mixing up millennial and nigger slang. Also she just an objective downgrade for any collab she's in.

>>22406793
>implying he can even land a former(?) pornstar.

>>22399283
I dislike idols and idolfags.

>>22406819
I watch streams

She clearly never watched hololive before joining and hated the concept of it for at least her first year.
Can't understand how she got away with that "I used to think idols were cringe and fake BUT NOW I realize it's not like that at all.... 2 years into my career" wtf?
Understand that what someone is willing to tweet like that is always worded way more nicely than they actually mean so you can imagine the type of language she'd really use privately.
Her claiming she loves her senpais then being stumped when asked to fucking name one is just repulsive.

Mori calliope does not care about hololive and deadbeats are not hololive fans.
Only """True deadbeats""" will admit it

I hate the retarded way she keeps planning these shit events and podcasts, learns nothing from their failure and runs headfirst into another.
Coming in hot off he'd jump king tournament, mori calliope presents, elden ring tree sentinel race.

Can you imagine working in a corporate setting with someone as dense as this, who just keeps shitting out bad ideas in meetings, the worst.

>>22407063
They do content together, and she's flirty the entire time while he just tries to ignore her advances

>>22399283
Easy mode, she's not black.

>>22399283
She sounds super fake, i don't know if she's genuine or not, but if she does she's bad at demonstrating it, every collab she has her laughs sounds forced, she makes like monologues trying to make a joke and ends up killing the fun and dragging the others, her voice sounds like she's trying to sound "cool" but doesn't pull it well. I really tried to watch her but ended up unsubscribing and every time i see her in the other girls channel i remember why i did

>>22406363
Everyone likes their "real" fans because "real" fans put up with their toxic behavior. What would actually be interesting is someone who likes their fans that actually are willing to call them out on their shit out of genuine concern but that's pretty much impossible because then you have to deal with all the people criticizing you who just genuinely hate you and it can be difficult to filter it all (without real-life friends that none of them have who are that filter). Plus if you validate even the fans that genuinely are good people publicly, it will cause the schizos to go out of control. But too many are like Mori and validate their own schizos publicly instead which is just retarded.

>>22402700
Her music is not good, and I can very easily prove it to you.
All rappers end up washed up, because they are a direct product of their time.
Rap songs have always been in this purgatory of being both nostalgic and cringey.
You'll remember the song very well because you would replay it all the time when you were young, you have memories that associate with it, but when you are older, you never want to actually sing it, recite it, relive it.
It's a part of your youth that you keep only as a badge that you are a living person who has moved away from it.

We will not listen to DMX in retirement homes, Eminem will not play when we are 80 years old on the dance floor of our grandchildrens wedding recital.
Rap is an objectively bad genre of music because you will not grow old with it, it is chaff that is abandoned.

>>22399508
Wasn't Takamori a product of them living close to each other?

>>22399283
>tries to hard to act Black
>really wants to say it

>>22407064
That's nice dear, but try to stay on topic

Her content doesn't interest me, but I feel indefferent about it. I could say the character doesn't fit the excellent design at all and it's wasted on her, but that's nitpicky. What actually worries me is how hard she pretends to be carefree while being a functional alcoholic. Of course people don't want their oshi to be near her.

>>22403468
>she wouldn't be where she is now without the "idol culture bullshit" to springboard her to fame
This applies to Mori, but doesn't to Gura. Also Mori success is based on her subverting idol culture. Breaking boundaries is how real spectacle is made.

Can only really tolerate her when shes with mouse otherwise shes a fucking autstic I honestly thought you guys were joking about it but holy fuck is she autistic

>>22405049
What music do you like?

>>22399283
She has a bad habit of talking over anyone she collabs with, she'll even raise her voice until they stop trying to talk. You can tell it gets on everyone's nerves because there's always a half second pause or more after Mori stops talking until someone else starts.

>>22406857
Connor isn't exactly a gigachad either.

>>22407612
this is fucking true god damn it i could punch her dumb ugly face in everytime she does that , people though Kiara was bad but she mostly stopped doing that, mori does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME ! TEHEE

>>22407656
even as a straight man i´d suck connors cock before touching Mori with a 10 feet pole disgusting fat slob that reeks of Cheap booze and Lean 24/7

>>22407612
>She has a bad habit of talking over anyone she collabs with, she'll even raise her voice until they stop trying to talk.
Isn't that just autism tho.

>>22399283
>loud
>cringe
>wigger
>brakes promises
>changes sides faster than speed of light
Just to name a few.

>>22407690
You are not straight if you would resist fucking her when she is on shape. Those boobs are truly gigantic.

>>22407656
As far as women are concerned he is. White, tall, rich, popular, deep voice, non-american accent

>>22407694
It doesn't matter what it is, it's bad form. I don't believe it's intentional, it's just how she is and it's likely that no one has brought it up and Mori lacks the self awareness to recognise she's doing it.

>>22399283
She's an edgy /here/-tier girl in terms of thought-process and has an intentionally edgy rap style and then is suddenly forced into a box where being adorable is King and nothing else matters.

So, being edgy contrarian she is she tried to subvert it as much as she can
However, The JOP being JOP just said "oh she's cool" and just ended up liking her more and calling her cute.
and she's mentally going "HOW AM I GETTING AWAY WITH IT" exactly like we are.

So she's legitimately conflicted and feels like this fake-"cool" persona she's being given isn't the real "her" and as such she's retreating back to her old life only to realize that the "KAKKOI CALLI SAN" fanbase followed her there and even if she shit talks them hard in her raps they think "oh its somebody else she's complaining about". Therefore trapping her with fans she didn't want. And yet, she wanted to be famous so she's legitimately mentally torn.

As her lyrics go "fade in, fade out, this crazy dream, without a direction floating endlessly"
She's trapped felling like she's not herself and the more she tries to be herself the more fans get attached to the not-her image somehow. If that makes sense.

That is why mori dislikes herself. And I dislike how she won't embrace Calliope fully still wishing SatanCube was more popular.
Also I don't like her because she's cringe incarnate during collabs.

>>22407725
t. Woman

>>22407487
I would have a lot more respect for her if she quit the booze for like six months or so as a start, it's obviously affecting the quality of her streams. Half a hour in it's time for jack and her commentary starts nosediving in quality, occasional drinks on-stream are perfectly fine for me but when she has trouble going one stream without mentioning alcohol it's just sad.

>>22405049
>So no, numbers aren't a valid metric to defend if something is good.

Ogey, we will definitely rely on anon-chama's opinion instead.

>>22399283
she's terminally unfunny. reciting all of your running gags off a list is not funny.

>>22405652
>Cursed night
>not Red

>>22407764
anon she is a legit Alcoholic her stopping her Drankies wont happen

>>22399283
Because I love her, she's my oshi.

>>22407738
She is the most popular on EN in terms of views so she is basically the boss, even if she doesn't act that way. Only Gura could call her out, but my impression is that she genuinely likes Mori as a friend.

>>22399338
>Vtuber
What did you expect anon

>>22407823
Gura recognizes a fellow alcoholic and knows they won't accept help until they've hit rock bottom and seek it out themselves.

>>22407815
I love that she wasnt even involved in at least half of the moris in this picture it perfectly encapsulates all the good shit wasted on her by her "friends" and community

>>22407845
this is a suprisingly realistic rrat , man i have so muich more respect for gura now that she didnt do a mori

>>22407859
She tries to be a good friend because just abandoning the alcoholic who doesn't want to admit they have a problem is way easier than sticking by them. Tons of respect for Gura, keeping a cool head while being the biggest in the business.

>>22405049
Will people be playing Mori Calliope songs in 5 years? Honestly, I’m asking, do you think Mori is more than just a cartoon character and that her music will live on after her?

>>22407762
A woman would never openly admit to being attracted to features like that and would claim he's a chad purely because of personality or something. That being said, hes not overtly creepy or anything so his personality does play a factor in women liking him but its like 90% the things I listed before

>>22407894
yeah gura is at least trying thats more you could ever say about mori

>>22408047
Okay woman.

>>22408044
No it wont

>>22408053
How many albums Gura has?

>>22407894
Either that or she just legitimately thinks Mori is cool and has similar interests as her.

Why can't she talk like a normal person?

>>22399283
mediocre music
i dont like the person behind the character

>>22401534
actors don't say my name and respond to what I say

>>22408090
we were talking about being there for a friend and not dropping them like a hot potatoh like mori did SEVERAL times with different people and not Music retardchama learn to understand context you fucking dumb piece of shit

She's american.

>>22399283
I am not into rap, so I don't watch her.
But mostly I just feel indiference towards her, no need to hate her.

>>22408283
The previous post pointed to both social relations and business success. So the problem is that your post was ambiguous due to objectively poor writing.

>>22408365
>she´s trying to be a good friend
>yeah gura is at least trying

This shit is not ambigious at all you´re just a retarded nigger

Because I like her sister.

>>22408410
Yeah you just have to ignore the rest of the previous post to pretend you didn't miswrite the post due to an obvious amphibology.

>>22408498
stop pretending you´re retarded and neck yourself please you´re behaving like Mori

>>22408069
IWNBAW

>>22399283
Shitty music, shitty personality, wannabe wigger, 0 chemistry with anyone in Hololive, whiny bitch and in collabs she acts like she doesn't want to be there.

>>22408526
Okay retard.

>>22407694
That's like the opposite of autism, that's just being an average self centered normalfag

>>22401633
She legit has autism. When someone talks about something she's unable to sounds interested about it and instantly shifts the conversation to Jojo, shrek, getting shitfaced drunk, souls games or whatever the fuck else she's interested in that month.
Some of those early Kiara/Mori collabs are incredibly painful to watch because Kiara tries her best to talk about shit the audience would want to hear about and then Mori goes comatose. She's almost completely quiet in that one shadowverse collab. She can only talk to people that share her interests like Bae and Irys. I bet every future chadcast will be 30% Jojo talk until she jumps on some new bandwagon and stars sperging about it.

>>22408605
You mean normal aspire behavior.

>>22408605
You mean normal assburger behavior.

>>22407823
>She is the most popular on EN in terms of views
Nigga, the IDs can beat her views when she plays bloodborne. Nobody wants to watch her watch her fans beat the game for her as summons except true deadbeats®.

>>22399283
But the thing is, I don't like Mori, I'm just aware that she might be a danger to Hololive, and yes it's because males and ecelebs, if she suddenly forgets about those 2 things she would be perfectly ok

>>22408710
>dissing Bloodborne
Didn't know there were tendies around these places.

>>22407376
>We will not listen to DMX in retirement homes, Eminem will not play when we are 80 years old on the dance floor of our grandchildrens wedding recital.
Rap is an objectively bad genre of music because you will not grow old with it, it is chaff that is abandoned.
Wrong wrong and wrong again. Certain stuff like the mumble rappers of today, sure maybe. But even "popular" rap like Kendrick will be remembered forever.
And to say that artists like Del won't be reminisced upon or respected? Disgusting

>>22399283
>whats 2+2?
>hard mode: no mention of 4

>>22399283
i see too much myself in her and i'm jealous of her success when i am suffering so much

>>22399283
She is my oshi and I enjoy her music. All of her merch is shit tho. Cant wait for Lui to fingerblast her on stream.

1. not just socially awkward, shes a vibe destroyer
2. really repetitive unfunny obnoxious humor
3. thinks she's cool because she browses/used to browse 4chan
4. lots of weird parsocial moments on her stream, especially scummy given that shes clearly treating hololive as purely a job and not a first priority anywhere in her life
5. Wigger
6. loves lean
7. worst fanbase on /vt/

>>22407656
he has a gigantic bald spot on his head its actually crazy

>>22399283
She is a cringe wigger.

>>22409592
most holo merch is pretty bad. figures are fine but they really fail in the shirts and posters department which I feel like should be the biggest priority.
keychains and stickers and pins are w/e

>>22409592
Nobody else in EN can come even close to Ina's merch.

>>22409613
>shes a vibe destroyer
That's the one thing I cant forgive. also the same reason Kiara is a hard gate for me but at least I can see her trying to be likeable.

>>22409649
In terms of Myth atleast the rest of them have something with a lowkey design thats easy on the eyes but still shows youre a fan (ex. OMOCAT Kiara and Ame, birthday merch Ina and Gura). All of Moris shit is just visual vomit or says "deadbeat" which isnt something id like to advertise to people who dont know.

>>22409649
I'm still waiting for the geniuses at Hololive staff to release some high quality models with articulation.

>>22409720
i agree at least kiara is trying

>>22409703
that fucking Obese Takodachi is wayy too smug

>>22399283
Let's see:
-Musically she goes quantity over quality. She has shown a handful of good concepts but most of them are a carbon copy of each other. Even worse, for a rapper, what she says doesn't weigh much unless you're a "true fan" (i.e. doxxbeat) and she has terrible flow. Her voice could also use some improvements since Ina has definitely surpassed her while they were in Hololive and that's with Mori having lessons.
-As a result of churning out music endlessly, she has no time to concentrate on her streams which is 95% of her content timewise. She often comes unprepared, tired or disinterested to streams and collabs are not an exception.
-She's very, very inflexible for a streamer. No matter what she streams or who she streams with, she does the same handful of jokes and gags endlessly and doesn't adapt to her partner at all. You can see how much she has railroaded the story back to her preferred ending in the TTRPG sessions instead of letting the plot form naturally.
-She's an unashamed alcoholic which also impacts her content and how she interacts with her colleagues.
-She has used her roommate's account to went about the company she's in which is extremely cowardly and dishonest, also breaks a lot of trust. Nobody knows what else she might find a problem with and to who she rants about them the next time.

And that's without going into easy mode and bringing up the faggots and their friends she enjoys interacting with instead of her colleagues.

>>22411160
Based

>>22399283
She tries too hard to be "le epic OG negro" from Atlanta"

>>22399292
FPBP

>>22399283
Cultural appropriation. First she stole my people's culture and now she's stealing the japs culture. Typical white woman.

She's one of us

>>22399283
She's trying to corrupt IRyS

>>22399283
her singing is cringe but nothing wrong with her otherwise.

>>22409720
>>22409613
Yeah theres a lot you can say about Mori and the TT shit and other dumb drama rrats but really for me its just chronically unfunny and destroys the mood of the room, why would you ever willingly watch someone like that? They're entertainers first and foremost

>>22411160
>She has used her roommate's account to went about the company she's in
What did she say?

Fair points most of you. I've also observed which got me to stop watching her overtime. Her music is decent but I ain't listening to them on a daily basis. Not good enough for that.

>>22411160
Good points dude. Some of the stuff I wouldn't know much about but I do like your first three points. I've seen that myself and don't like that aspect of her.

>>22411541
And they become successful using our culture. Nothin new. I'm numb to it now but her copying of our mannerism is off putting asf.

>>22399283
Shes trying way too hard to subvert hololive.
I wouldn't have problem with it if she was a NIJISANJI member on some Sonic the Hedgehog escapade of trying to diss the competition by acting like you are the "cool ones".
However she's not a niji member, she's a holomember. I can understand not being 100% down on the cute idol thing but you can atleast make an effort to try to blend in, otherwise, why the fuck are you even in a virtual idol company.

>>22399283
It all started with her first minecraft collab with Gura.

I was there for her debut, I knew immediately that she would be a fucking tragedy.

>>22399283
she's cringe, seems constantly self-conscious and uncomfortable
It doesn't feel great to watch someone constantly either neurotic or panicking

>>22399283
I don't hate her, but the intonation she uses in her voice reminds me of annoying theatre kids I went to school with so I don't watch her very often except for special events.

>>22414052
I thought she would grow out of being overly awkward and cringey but she never did

>>22399283
>cringe
>shit voice
>shit music
>talks to the others like they're retarded
>doesn't give a shit about her coworkers
>unfunny
>american

People say Mumei is the fake one but it was this cow all along albeit for different reasons

>>22415243
and she never will

Her music is offensively shit.

She didn't invite me to her birthday party

>>22414161
>annoying theatre kids
That is because Mori was a theatre kid, when she went to school

>>22399283
She's everything I hate about myse- wait, that counts as mentioning males huh?

>>22399283
She played dirty on Kiara multiple times and now plays the needy friend card ,is an awful host, vented aggression against Fauna and promised to play GoI but still hasn't, treats her fans as idiots as in pic related, clearly hates her job (RM), but will keep being this fake ass self because deep inside she knows it's the only reason she has any value on the internet sphere, even if she's the least talented entertainer. Yes, her lyrics suck, her rapping is shit and she needs literal therapy and stop the drug and alcohol consumption.
Quite a lot of reasons. Nice hard mode jackass, she makes it easy.

>>22419829
kek this

>>22399283
How is that hard mode?
>she pushes cross-company collabs
>annoying wigger talk
>vulgar for no reason
>Adam Sandler mention
>Shrek mention
>Jojo mention
>"It's just like Jump King"
>western/sheriff voice
>actual yabs
>liar
>maintains previous life
>Jewish member monetization scheme
>ruins every orisong she's a part of with terrible lyrics
Her fans are also massive faggots, but I don't hold that against her personally. I see it more as a flies being attracted to shit type of deal. I could go on and on, but most of it boils down to her lack of talent, lack of tact, and general phoniness.

>>22399283
wigger

>>22419829
Give me a rundown on that Fauna thing?

>>22423019
They were talking about Mori liking Jump King and Fauna liking Getting over It and while Fauna basically said she'd give JK a try, Mori flat out refused to even consider GOI. Basically just shit all over one of Fauna's favorites.

Just like a kid who refuses to try some food because it tastes bad, even though he never tried it.

The one-way street of cooperation that only Mori seems to get praise over for some reason.

>>22423284
I mean, Mori did try GOI before and sucked at it which is why she hates it so much. But it IS pretty bullshit that she said she'd give it another go, and Fauna even played Jump King for her, and she still hasn't reciprocated.

Hello guy,s, is this the schizo thread?

So is the verdict that Mori is a huge asshole that shits all over Hololive and her genmates. Or she’s just super autistic and doesn’t mean to be malicious?

>>22399283
She's dishonest. She's the kind of person that never listens but pretends she does, and thinks she's smarter for it, but will also never say it to your face. She can't put herself in other people's shoes and everything is good or bad only relative to herself. She's not above being prejudiced but can't stand being criticized.

Just at how she thought about idols
>idols are icky yo!
>(is a j-rapper)
>becomes friends with idol
>idols can be cool dawg!
>(because they work hard like she does)
>i'm an idol now!
>(still doesn't understand half a thing about idols)
>i even live in Nihon
>(can't speak Japanese, friends are all expats)

>>22399283
Mori is one of the few chuubas that actually deserves antis, as the responses in this thread demonstrate.
She even knows she's a bad person, she has a fucking song about it.
Only chuuba to be downvoted in their own subreddit btw

she reminds me of my sister

>>22424805
London?

>>22399283
More often than not, it looks like she doesn't give a single fuck about holo or her genmates

>>22399283
1. Is ungrateful
2. Is a bad rapper
3. Deadbeats

>>22399389
Calliope Mori Ryona?
There might be a market for this type of content...
森カリオペとリョナコミックをください.

>>22404822
I will probably get banned for this but i don't care, fuck this place:

Gachikoi are delusional retards. Consider your Oshi. Charming, intelligent, witty. And the room mates nearly always turn out to be cuties.

Somehow, these prize females in the prime of their reproductive years are all supposed to be single and not have boyfriends, husbands, children.

Just try and enjoy the magic trick without thinking about how it's done or what happens off stream. Holomems are not cynically exploiting You any more than the host(esses) in clubs. No one is forced to do anything. But if You appreciate someone making You smile and making You forget about Clown World for a while, You may decide to throw them some money and a message and it gives you the warm and fuzzies when she reads it out, why not?

I mean, how is that any worse than a salaryman sticking money into a stripper's g-string? Who gets hurt by it?

>>22428412
My oshis a fat ugly retard though

>>22399389
to be honest, if she did a ryona voice pack i would buy it. i'm so used to her voice she is like an acquaintance to me. The idea of roughing her up gets me excited. The sounds she would make after a good solid shot to the solar plexus ... mmm. No head trauma, i don't she needs any more brain damage after all that drinking.

>>22401207
>or maybe she's getting a free pass because shes american and white and the Japanese idealize them
fucking lol, the shit eops come out with

>>22411160
>-She has used her roommate's account to went about the company she's in which is extremely cowardly and dishonest, also breaks a lot of trust. Nobody knows what else she might find a problem with and to who she rants about them the next time.
she has never done this or said a single bad thing about cover, ever. everything she complained about in that stream was about the pressures of being famous on the internet and how that changes what you can say and do, and its an interesting thing to hear about.

>>22399435
I like Calli too. I don't think she is a bad person.
On the surface, I find her quite likable.
She does put her ambition ahead of everything else, and so it would be hard to be her friend.

I think she doesn't appreciate the effect her behavior has on others, or she just doesn't care. I think that schoolkid with the baked potato was like a Tomoko who wanted to be her friend and she was like 'ew get away from me, you menhera retard!'. And I think the Takamori thing was mostly kayfabe, playing up the 'passionate genki' Austrian VS the cold 'no affection pls i'm catholic' Texan dynamic. But then that airplane song made me reconsider, like Kiara really wanted friendship and emotional warmth, and Calli's rejection just seemed cruel and calculated.

After Holofes, and getting a new album and getting signed to Universal, Calli received calls of congratulation from Kiara, and Calli expressed regret about not calling Kiara since she left for Europe. She had made it, the first Holomem signed to a major international music label, 2 M subs etc. But she lost the opportunity to have a friendship with Kiara, and that boat had sailed.

>>22428740
Hey how can You say that about Your Oshi! You just trolling... or maybe... well you know what they say about a chuuba and their audience...

>>22429807
>like Kiara really wanted friendship and emotional warmth, and Calli's rejection just seemed cruel and calculated.
kiara has mentioned before that one of the reasons she wanted to kill off takamori was that mori was acting the polar opposite on stream from how she was off and it was really uncomfortable for her

im sure they could salvage their friendship if mori really tried, which i hope she will because its very clear she really regrets taking it for granted

>>22428412
Just get an oshi you think is cute but society doesn't lmao

I hope laplus's original is hip hop so we have a rappist in hololive now that Mori makes anime intros

>>22429974
If I wanted to watch a girl with a boyfriend I’d watch pokimane of some shit. Hololive girls rely on anime models to be attractive for a reason

>>22428999
Hey, nice trips.
I think Japanese idealize Italians more than Americans at this point. America is just so over. Experimental J-RAP on the other hand, would seem interesting and exotic to JP bros. Her rap is also far less self-aggrandizing than the usual nigger rap that might be quite repulsive to Japanese listeners, IMHO.

>>22399283
1. her streams aren't my thing
2. talks to her colleagues as if she's talking to children, only ever uses her "real voice" during out-of-holo collabs.
3. doxxfaggotry causing deadbeats to imitate her and become doxxbeats
At least she'll be contained by her label contract now.

>>22407376
You make a good point.

From her bandcamp.com:
"I make music videos for myself and others (some know me as the animator of "Princess") while experimenting with my own whacky style of hip-hop."
I listen to her stuff in my car, I drive a lot all week, and it stood up to repeat listens for me. I think she tries to be original and she does not really sound like the usual American rapper. I don't find her obnoxiously self-aggrandizing like niggers usually are, she seems much more modest, which is a character trait i value.
As an ESL I appreciate how she enunciates words clearly.

>>22407750
I'm glad I'm not the only one in this thread posting walls of text.
I like your character study, are you describing 'imposter syndrome'?

>>22399283
She occupies a spot someone else could have held, just to boost a "music" career that didn't pick up without corporate backing.

She never gives anything her 100%, cause she has her fingers stuck in 20 places at once, and none of those places is Kiara's cunny.

>>22407812
t. 12 stepper (weed) -- she won't stop unless she hit a real crisis and she lost everything she cared about -- so in her case, her career. She gets drunk 24/7 and stops being able to perform or write songs and manage a functional relation with her producer.
Only then would she possibly look for ways to stop drinking. She will probably end up in a rehab at some stage, but most people in 12 step programs don't make it and die from their addiction.
When that happens, I think I would be genuinely sad even though she is a stranger to me.

She either doesn't understand Hololive culture or actively dislikes it, whichever it might be the result is the same she is trying to change the culture for the worse. If she was just a cringe weebwigger doing her thing I wouldn't care either way but how she tries to drag her genmates into her bullshit is where I draw the line.

>>22399283
Males and TT

>>22399283
>no charisma
>she sucks at singing
>cringe every fucking minute in all collabs
>she thinks that cowboys are cool

her whole existence is annoying

>>22424025
I'm bipolar, dunno about the other guys. One or two make good observations.
>22413423
>22411160
>22407750

>>22431755
Glad your working on it anon , i may dislike mori but i guess i would be a bit sad if she would kill herself with the Booze

>>22430201
Her cover (https://youtu.be/yTb_AvLchgY))
is legit amazing, I have it in my playlist on heavy rotation. Laplus is a kusogaki with an amazing voice in my opinion, and the song has these tempo changes i find very interesting.

>>22399283
Brapped on stream and she didn't make a beat out of it. Wasted potential.

>>22399283
She's excessively vulgar.

>>22399283
Very simple explanation: contrarianism. She's the 2nd most popular, ofc she'd be hated in 4chan.

>>22401365
meds

Her music and rap really does suck. Only made like 5 decent songs among the pile of crap she's released so far. Only propelled by the momentum of her past life and hololive brand just like Suisei.

>>22399283
https://youtu.be/dZqo4OZ0Pqs

>>22433998
You faggots always say this and ignore that gura doesn't have a fraction of the schizo antis that mori does

>>22434135
Because faggots be wrong , she only has herself to blame for her Antis

>>22399283
Nothing, i love her. I hope she can do more concerts in person ot rtx.
She loves her job and most of all she loves her friends. God, shes the biggest dork i would love to hangout with.

>>22433998
why do deadbeats desperately tell themselves this? It's very obvious that a lot of people simply don't like her personality and sense of humor. Where are the people doing the same for Pekora if it's just numbers seething?

>>22434517
dont you know any shame? probably not or you would not tell such blatant lies

>>22433998
As if, this thread has 300 replies and still going strong.
Whens the last time Gura, Pekora, hell even Ina or Ame had an anti thread with this much participation.
And its not just shit flinging, people are typing out legitimate, nuanced criticism of her behavior, as opposed "Ina hates her fans, see she said it in a clip this one time"
Thing about Mori is theres always some new retarded thing she's done every month.
Ina - boring, dated omega or something, nopotism
Ame - overrated, lazy, tummy hort
Gura - lazy, doesnt deserve her success
But Mori ? Well the thread speaks for itself

>>22434791
This , you cant Deflect this deadcucks!

>>22433998
if you seriously believe this you're a retard

>>22433998
She is more popular than Gura by all meaningful metrics.

>>22434791
You have been bumping this thread for more than 12 hours. Sad.

>>22435283
He and 161 other anons dont pretend like this thread is only 1 person

>>22435707
They have to pretend it's two people so they can claim that it's "just a vocal minority" here

>>22434517
Naaaah this dick eating is crazy

>>22435202
The average intelligence of a cuckbeat

>>22435202
bad bait

>>22409057
literally who lmao