/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22408439
Selen…

>>22408439
>leech off
I don't think you understand what this word means. It's the other way round.

>>22408439
What a leech fest

is scarra even a good Vtuber? is he even a Vtuber? shit is confusing.

>>22408497
>>22408439
fun fact: Gura's roommate follows 4 people from OTV

>>22408497
That's a lot of combined clout holy shit.

rrat:
HER tried to be part of the "cool kids club" but got rejected -> see song with belle delphine.
Now that Gura is cool the same people try and come leech but get rejected.
That entire crowd are terrible and selfish people nobody should associate with.

>>22408439
They're trying to get big on twitch, even paying someone to talk about them.
https://www.twitch.tv/nagzz21/clip/SavoryDarkLampKreygasm-su6b0Od5Zv5o6J-u?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

>>22408497
Those 5 people are bigger than hololive combined

>>22408546
Belle Delphine's boyfriend paid her for the collab m8, he heavily faked and marketed everything she did

>>22408572
They are not even close lol

>>22408572
I'm sure they are

>>22408546
Agreed. Fuck those people

>>22408607
>>22408614
Corpse and Poki alone have 6 and 7 million subs on youtube alone

>>22408497
what are these posts trying to express

>>22408572
Lmao, anon, this isn't 2020
Disguised Toast and Pokimane have fallen off hard
Valkyrae is only relevant because she gets propped up by corporate interests.
Sykkuno and Corpse Husband have been reclining for months

>>22408483
This tho, NijiEN are obsessed to build themselves as chuuba ver of OLTV

>>22408607
>>22408614
>>22408705
You're all right. Pokimane alone is bigger than all of Hololive combined.

>>22408497
The only reason i know those 4 fuckers exists is because they appeared on a among us video from pewdiepie, the only one i know before was pokimane just for the drama.

>>22408751
Forgot pic

>>22408439
It didnt matter, only Scarra and Gumi were present there
And Scarra got filtered by Selen's endurance and had to leave way earlier... it was a 9 hour stream were Selen had the rest prisoners with her playing Valorant

>>22408687
And yet both of them get less viewers than most top holos. Youtube doesn't pay for dead subs.

waooo i bet it's a lost /qa nigger

Holy shit, Nijisanji is amazing

fuck scarra the fat fuck is just taking up space without providing anything. this Collab would have been better with Luca.

>>22408439
Scarra is a washed up streamer who lost his relevancy years ago.

>>22408787
Their views to subs ratio is the exact same as EN's though...

>>22408806
>Luca
>Valorant
lmao

>>22408687
Anon, learn how to use social blade before you embarrass yourself
>but twitch
Their twitch numbers are worse than pekora's

>>22408787
Youtube pays for watch-time. CCV has nothing to do with anything. These hololive girls are streaming like 3 hours a week. Selen did a 9 1/2 hour stream yesterday.

>>22408751
>>22408773
Anon those are all dead subs, have you never heard of social blade

>>22408572
>Culturally speaking even Gura alone is bigger than the other 5.
Also while her reach isn't bigger, she's has more influence

>>22408572
>>22408687
>>22408751
They're not popular because i never watch them and i only know about them from this thread.

>>22408808
No one fucking cares about EN lol, why are you bringing up an irrelevant side branch for? Hololive is Holo JP. JP powerhouse streamers mog literally the entirety of the OTV house. If they wanted they would just make up some bullshit sleepover collab with Marine, Miko, Pekora etc. and pull a 100k+ on demand. Look at youtube top earnings for superchats, all hololive, Valkyrae no where to be seen.

>>22408855
They used to be big a couple years ago, not so much anymore, most of the hololive girls get better numbers than they do

>>22408439
Pokimane is more popular than Gura.

>>22408870
>discussion about EN
>dogfucker from /hlg/ brings his jop chubbas
YWNBJ

>>22408787
i wouldnt be one to talk holofag, sana shows how many people dead sub the newest holos and dont return ever.
and im not refering to how she performs these days btw, im referring to how when youtube went after her channel multiple times during debut month for botsubs, most people didnt resub.
and if were very honest all channels are made up of dead subs.

>>22408817
>>22408880
>b-but viewers gained
>b-but subs gained
>b-but ccv
Gains mean nothing if base stats are still a wall between

>>22408497
>no Lily
Gura is getting the Pink Cat treatment I see.

You guys realize that you don't have to be the smaller creator to leech, right? Trying to pull viewers that wouldn't have otherwise looked your way is still leeching.

>>22408839
Yeah you're right. Gura always have 3,9m people watching her.

>People here seriously think Gura wouldn't jump at the chance of collabing with Pokimane.
Every vtuber in existence would eat ass for an opportunity like it.

>>22408870
>caring about ccv
Are you retarded?
Let me ask you something, which do you think is better, most hours watched or most ccv?
Your answer will determine your iq

>>22408935
I think you missed the argument. The Argument was that Gura has a less percentage of deadsubs. They was also proof posted

>>22408607
Corpse has 7.6 million subs on Youtube. He has videos with 30 million views. His streams on Twitch get something like 45,000 - 50,000 CCV. Although he hasn't been active recently

>>22408826
amout that yt pays nowadays is mostly used to maintain a channel, most income come from other sources

>>22408928
then everything is leeching anon, and when everythings leeching, nothing is leeching

>>22408870
Because they have regular sponsorships with other companies more often than holo do.
Not only that but valkyrae has a better youtube contract than all of holos because youtube specifically gave her a better deal than twitch to not stream there.

Yeah i think they are, but it could be just one. trying too hard

>>22408767
toast was pretty good when he was just a hearthstone funnyman

>>22408906
>gains mean nothing
Are you retarded, literally less people watch pokimane than pekora, and you tried saying she is bigger than all of hololive

The official star wars youtube channel has more subscribers than all of those IRL streamers combined and their videos barely get over 1000 views outside trailers for a new tv show.

>>22408870
Mori has more monthly views than anyone on JP tho.

>>22408959
Yet his culturally influence is none

>>22408995
You people are accusing him of leeching. Lol what the fuck

>>22408974
There's a difference between leeching and making content together. Look at this image and tell me this ain't a bunch of leeches trying to bandwagon onto the new cool thing: >>22408497

>>22408936
Gura second channel was basically just copying the whole LilyPichu/Nyanners schtick.

>>22408935
This is an easy IQ L for you man, most of those IRL streamers can barely reach most of the hololive numbers anymore.
In both livestreaming metrics and average channel view metrics.

>>22408497
Delusion of vtuber fans is really something those ppl combined are more relevant than both Nijisanji and Hololive EN

>>22409008
He literally is. I didnt acuse him once

>>22408959
Anon, he's a dead channel, this is like saying h3h3 is a big streamer, what fucking decade are you in

>>22408987
retards numberfags dont know what is engagement

>>22408785
Nah, Scarra had to leave for a Lost Ark raid.

>>22409052
Vox is quite literally more influental than those 5 combined.

>>22408987
I guess you're right then, hololive is bigger than star wars. You sure showed me by accurately applying statistics where they fit.

>>22408502
scarra owns otv though?

>>22408995
Corpse was on the AOC stream which won Biden the election.

>>22408936
Pokimane has been irrelevant for years anon, how fucking out of touch have you guys been
Once Pekora overtook Pokimane's spot in top female streamers, Pokimane's viewership freefalled

>>22408773
It's also funny in the JP side. They pretend they're the big deal and trendsetters until you slap them with Jun numbers and they shut up

>ITT

>>22409062
No he's not mate. He's waaaaay bigger than Gura is.
>>22409065
It's not a "dead channel" if he decided to stop making videos because he's worth millions of dollars. It's not like his channel went bust or something. He just stopped making videos.

>>22408956
Yes, Pokimane has higher deadsubs than Gura. But 2/3 deadsubs is still a deadsubs.

>>22409108
No shit, Anon. This is /vt/. Now show me your streamer board . . . a wait

>>22409087
Poki is literally the face on Twitch.

>>22409087
who?

>>22408943
Here's your watch hours bro, Pokimane can't even beat Pekora, and Miko is close behind her. But apparently she is bigger than all hololive combined, funny how that works.

>>22409091
Like >>22409078 is saying, all those IRL streamers have fallen off in active engagement, their audiences have left them except Valkyrae.

Look at Ninja, at one point he was the biggest streamer in the world by a wide margin, now Pekora regularly beats his numbers.

Have you never made a youtuber channel or twitch before? How can you be this daft about basic engagement statistics

>>22409108
Numberfags want a niche subculture free from normalfags and at the same time want it to be big enough to make normie streamers trying to "leech" off it. The most schizophrenic kind

>>22409087
Good bait. I'll take it.

Pekora said she wanted to collab with Valkyrae.

>>22409149
>pic

>>22408705
the screenshot is 2021 where they havent reclined as much, also sykkuno is close to his peak at that time at 40k ccv
>implying gura isnt reclining and doesnt have a lot of dead subs

>>22408607
>>22408614
>not even close

>only one of them doesnt have more subs than gura, while there are even a couple with double her subs
>one of them gets 80-100k ccv in normal streams at their peak
>majority gets 20-40k ccv at normal streams
>trying to tweet at our 3 mil sub shork that gets 20k ccv is leeching
do holobrony numberfags really?

Uh oh, they're here, we're in for a party

>he thinks vtubers are relevant
lmao if vtubers are so important why doesnt YouTube give a fuck about them?

>>22409137
How much did Twitch pay her for the advertisement?

>people talking about YouTube views of Twitch streamers.

>>22408987
no one watching pewdiepies live streams these days but hes still more popular then peko is, fame isnt just about having the big numbers but also the effect you have on the industry.
dont get me wrong holo has made an impact, but pewdiepie has effected youtube itself for better or worse.
>>22409065
hes less dead then the others since he got his big break during the same time holo did so its not like hes a washup who was popular 5 years ago whose popularity was carried over.
he may have been making content before holo but his meteor rise happening around holo makes him a good measuring stick.
>>22409102
pokimanes a whiny cunt who keeps getting herself into drama by complaining about any criticism she gets for her shitty behavior.
people feel off her because over time people realized what they were enabling.

The only reason anyone watches hololive is because they're numberfags. So when people bring up bigger numbers, holofags go insane

>>22409149
>>22409154
No, you're right. You're using stats correctly.
By your logic hololive is bigger than disney/marvel/dc combined.
You definitely know how to apply stats correctly

>>22409137
Pokimane being astroturfed by companies is exactly why people stopped watching her, even with the boyfriend drama
People didn't like how fake she is

You are basically saying mickey mouse is the most popular cartoon character in the world because at one point they were, but times have changed.

>>22409159
You don't seem to get my point. I never said he has more influental content or anything like that. Vox simply is more popular than those 5 combined. People watch him, not his content. It's super simple. This is also why his cultural influence is much bigger.

>>22409174
Isn't Rae on OTV?

>>22409228
They are bigger. What are you not understanding?
This is still the Internet, not real live.

>>22409235
Wasn't that anon saying in the thread that his mom decided to start vtubing because she was so obsessed with Vox?

>>22409224
None of the people there currently get bigger numbers
>>22409186
>1+ year ago when AOC was running for reelection and Toast's channel didn't die

>>22409192
That's not an advertisement, those are images picked by the Twitch staff that show up when you are installing the app. She is literally the face of Twitch.

>>22409235
>Vox simply is more popular than those 5 combined
You seriously can't believe this right?

>>22409288
I don't know why you're such an incorrigible numberfag. Why do you care about numbers so much anon? what went wrong in your life?

>>22409264
haha, i remember that thread - more hags are always welcome

>>22409087
Nigga, Corpse is literally Vox Prime with 7 forma

honestly shocked at the fact that nijinigs are okay with offlinetv collabs, that's peak twitch teen cancer

>>22409235
anon, you doing the center of the universe bias.
of course he has a lot of influence when your world is vtubers, but outside of the vtubing world he has no known influence yet.
plus he only really has influence in the the wider world if hes constantly getting into spats with other content creators

You really have to be insane to think Japanese anime streamers, who are already not much mainstream in their own country, are somehow more relevant than the biggest streamers in the world.
Pokimane had a cameo in a Hollywood movie that sold $331.5 million ffs

>>22409228
Hololive definitely gets more engagement than the average DC movie promotion, that's why they advertised The Batman on La+'s channel

Look, I get that marketshare engagement statistics aren't your forte, but maybe don't get so defensive about it when you don't understand it fully

>>22409192
must be contractual if she already got millions directly from twitch

>>22409288
not all numbers are equal
This guy is bigger than any vtuber but he's an irrelevant Vietnamese streamer
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCA_23dkEYToAc37hjSsCnXA
Vtubers are irrelevant because normal people will never watch them
That's why YouTube doesn't give exclusive contracts to vtubers

Hi here from the popular threads thingy on the front page just wanna say your vtubers suck and you suck and your a retard too, thanks

>>22409186
Because vtubers are still in the embryonic stage of a new emergent industry and it'll be about ~4 yrs out before you see actual insane growth, like Wendy's has a Wendy's vtuber whose chat is filled with Wendy's Nuts in your mouth.

>>22409302
Show me how much fanart for example Corpse get each day and then show me Vox. He is currently much much more popular.
>>22409325
And those 5 content creators that leeched onto Gura are all currently unrelevant. That's the thing. I am not saying Vox has better and more popular content, but Vox in himself is much more popular than those 5. Just look at the fans. I doubt there are many that talk about pokimane at all, compared to Vox.

>>22409343
i cant believe DC is leeching off my anime girls, this is outrageous.
>>22409354
b-based!?!?!

how are you people still breathing with numberrot this bad?

>>22409343
Because that's a meaningless fucking metric.
You can find meme accounts online that get more engagement than hololive disney and every company combined, does that mean they're bigger?

>>22409316
How are you not realizing it already, NijiEN with the males now it's like OfflineTV with l2d avatar.

>>22409304
I am not a numberfag, I am correcting you from being ignorant, everyone besides valkyrae in this pic >>22408497 is a quickly reclining channel that has reached it's half life
It will happen to the hololive girls eventually, but currently, hololive as an entire entity almost has the same engagement level that E3 does on twitch, we saw this with the last holofes numbers

>>22409349
only ludwing has an exclusive contract with youtube

>>22409421
nono, you're trying to convince yourself that hololive is the most important, most influential thing in the world. When it's actually not. Because you're a numberfag who only watches hololive because of the numbers. You spend the entire stream staring at the number counter in the bottom left corner of your screen.

>>22409415
>meaningless fucking metric
>the most important part of marketing
Anon just stop typing, I'm not giving you a college lecture on basic internet marketing

LilyPichu was doing everything people associate with VTubers (streaming games, anime avatar, music, dumb memes) back in 2011 when streaming itself was a new concept. She has also been featured in official advertising for League of Legends, and is a voice actor for Genshin Impact. She is not even the most popular member. If you are talking cultural relevance then OTV is on a whole other level.

>>22409295
Are they allowed to use her likeness as the face of the app though? I feel like Pokimane could argue she has a brand around her image and name and any likeness used for profit incentives outside of herself i.e. using her likeness to grow the platform would have to be contractually negotiated.

>>22409436
Valkyrie and some others too
They don't care about vtubers though
https://www.slashgear.com/youtube-signs-streamers-lazarbeam-muselk-valkyrae-to-exclusive-deals-13606701

>>22409316
>that's peak twitch teen cancer
No that's ZilverK.

>>22409394
Oh my god. Unbelievable. Please refer to this >>22409108
I don't think even most Niji fans would agree to your delusions.

>>22409325
I think the only ones that had been featured in a normie news channel are Vei and Froot anyway.

>>22409496
vete a chingar tu madre, pinche marica

>>22409462
I mean, if we're talking about advertisements Gura has appeared officially in two different games, a taco bell ad, and japanese national television.

>>22409486
for not paying them directly? also know these contract are to compete with facebook live (no jk) there are no vtubers streaming there or communites they can aproach

>>22409457
Hololive is not the most important, most influential thing in the world.
But being ignorant over their active engagement is magnitudes higher than OLTV is embarrassing.

Look at every single last stream on everyone here >>22408497
Then, go and add up all those viewership numbers, last stream only.
Then, go and add the last stream numbers for every single hololive girl.
It's not even close.

Even as solitary streamers, Pekora is bigger than most of the people in the list.
Stop being a numberfag and then complaining about people correcting you with correct numbers.

>>22409343
The entire vtubing industry gets more interactions because its current meta is chat interaction. It's fundamentally different than just a passive ad you see on some media site.

>>22409481
She is a VIP Twitch employee. She has a contract with them directly.

>>22409536
I already answered to that - maybe try and get a working argument?

>>22409548
Are the games as big as League nad Genshin?

>>22409576
Twitch and YouTube both give out exclusive contact to their important streamers.
It's clear that YouTube doesn't find vtubers important enough to give them exclusive contacts

>>22409349
Youtube gave Ice Poseidon an exclusive contract after being banned on twitch and he scammed his viewers out of $500,000 with an NFT scam, that's not exactly a prestigious club.

>>22409548
>taco bell
Why couldn't it have been any other franchise that's not McD, Taco Bell is a nat 20 for diarrhea for me

>>22409603
Wow I had no idea since I never watch her, I do catch clips of the tourette girl that YouTube keeps recommending me though.

>>22409633
Most vtubers are contracted through companies, youtube doesn't deal with those companies anymore because of all the issues with machinima/maker studio back in the day.

>>22409647
I didn't say that these streamers are good or their content is great but they're definitely more important to YouTube than vtubers

>>22409394
refer to what i just said, you have a small horizon bias, your world is just vtubers so the only thing you can compare stuff too is vtubers but vtubing is a smaller niche then you think it is.
>>22409421
holo is impressive in that it can get a super large turn out for something as niche as vtubing, dont get me wrong but the general populace still ends up with OTV being more popular because in general irl streaming is a larger niche then vtubers.
they may not engage in as high volumes as vtuber fans do but they are bigger in terms of the amount of people who would be interested in watching.
>>22409583
basically this honestly, the niche cap is smaller but the culture creates engagement surplus.

>>22409605
How are we measuring "popularity"?

>>22409582
Pokimane average viewers is around 20k.

>>22409653
I want Taco Bell in Germany but there's another Taco Bell somewhere in europa and they can't get their franchise in because of that, cause they lost the lawsuit.
No clue how it tastes but Döner, Pizza and Burgers as your only main choices for fast food is kinda bland. Restarants get a bit pricy after a while too.

>>22409633
That's probably more of a Cover thing.

>>22409692
If i have a small horizon bias, why do vTubers like Vox have a higher ccv

>>22409687
That's just your speculation
They don't give out contract to big indies like Hal as well.

>>22409548
Vtubers even in Japan always get the bottom of the barrel game sponsorships let alone EN vtubers lmao

>>22409692
I agree that hololive will essentially have a market cap, but that doesn't somehow erase the simple fact that OTV going more corporate has caused a huge recline in their viewership, similar to ninja.
People watch streamers as friendship simulators, they are okay with them shilling things as long as they think they are supporting a hard working indie.

Hololive does manage to escape this mentality since the company, while admitted black in some regards, is generally well regarded by the fans and is heavily supported.
Fans will buy a lot of merch and advertisements from the girls are more palatable coming from a mascot character rather than a real person, that was the reason why cover corp ever even invented hololive, marketing.

>>22409705
Pekora average numbers are 20-40k.
People ITT actually tried saying Pokimane was bigger than all of hololive.

Amusingly, Mori is the only Holo that's reaching actual cultural relevance vía her contract with Universal and by hitting the iTunes charts.

>>22409740
You're right, but there is definitely a correlation between youtube formally doing partnerships with companies during Youtube Red debut, and now dropping partnerships with entertainment companies.

>>22409842
OTV previous peak was mostly because of Amogus.

>>22409867
>He still thinks CCV is everything.

>>22409867
so she's smaller than this guy >>22409349?
I told you not all numbers are equal

>>22409902
Rust server was peak OTV

>>22409867
Well you are comparing two different audiences. 20k concurrent is more than anyone on EN unless they are doing a collab or a special event.

>>22409748
Japan is a bit strange when it comes to advertisements, it'd be too hard to long to explain it to you, but the gist of it is that japan like advertising anime and mascots on even the most cheap products to government programs

>>22409264
qrd? seem funny like my mommy ntr doujin

>>22409174
I thought poikmane was bigger than everyone at hololive? what happened guys?

>>22409102
Pokimane was never relevant, she merely spammed buff content like interacting with 12-year-olds on Fortnite. Her numbers tank if she's ever off-meta.

>>22409937
Because it is, Pokimane USED to get higher numbers until she started falling off, she used to be bigger than Pekora, now she isn't.
Pokimane has been streaming 3 times as long as Pekora has and has reached the zenith in her growth, it's all been downhill since Pekora overtook her in livestream viewers.

>>22408607
There is absolutely no way you believe any holo is as popular as corpse or pokimane, absolutely no fucking way

>>22409899
YouTube probably makes like 100 deals with big and small companies everyday.
I doubt that they prefer dealing with individuals over agencies
Again, they don't give out contracts to big indie vtubers as well

>>22409842
Ninja may have reclined a ton, but 80% of American schoolchildren know who he is which is a metric of cultural relevance in the west hololive has never (and will never) come close to. CCV is the easy shitpost metric, its not the be all end all of popularity.

>>22409958
Anons said all of hololive >>22408572
Pekora alone is bigger than most of them

All of hololive is 15x bigger than OTV

>>22409996
Can't even beat Pekora on her own cage, Views funneling using host, constant collab with 30-50k ccv streamer.

>>22410027
You're right, but it's like Olympic medal winners, their relevancy is directly tied to contextual timing, people barely remember who Michael Phelps is anymore. Most winners get ads featuring them for a 2 week period after winning a medal and are never seen again their entire life and are completely forgotten.
New kids getting into fortnite will never know who Ninja is, and never will because his relevancy is gone.

Michael Reeves actually focuses on YouTube and his views are on par with the biggest Holos.

>Delusional people try to convince themselves Pekora is bigger than Pokimane
Now I have seen everything.

>>22410018
The biggest chuubas are probably on that level, but they aren't taken seriously. Nyanners gets a lot more viewers than LilyPichu, but Lily is the one actually getting respect.

>>22410125
Pokimane used to be bigger than Hololive that for sure, nowadays they're on par

>>22410125
Tell me about Pekora... why is she chubby now?

>>22409735
higher engagement culture doesnt mean they have more influence than a normie activity, just means the fans cant shut the fuck up about their niche thing.
the reason something is a normie thing is because it appeals to the most amount of people and a lot of normal people consume it.
comic book fans are niche fans but comic book movie fans are normie fans but the comic book fans only affect the normie stuff at this point by buying the good stories so the domino effect has the movies adapt said stories for the normies.
>>22410010
this is where hololives closed bubble bites them in the ass, even when peko has more engagement then poki, poki still has an effect on streaming despite not doing the same numbers as peko.
hololives closed system keeps retention up and yabes down but it also means they arent really contributing to the growth of the industry other then being the ones brute forcing with big numbers as influence which has begun to not be as effective because everyone who was interested already knows and does or doesnt care.
>>22410082
>New kids getting into fortnite will never know who Ninja is, and never will because his relevancy is gone.
this will probably be the case in a few years but hes still got residual influence as of right now
>>22410169
big chungus moment

Gura will always be based for ignoring all these shitty twitch ecelebs

>>22410040
Offline TV is less than a dozen people. It only looks bigger because they are friends with other known streamers like Corpse, Valkyrae, and Sykuuno.

>>22410192
It's why she's better than all of vshojo

>>22410115
>on par
You mean far exceeds.

>>22410125
Saying Pokimane is bigger than Pekora is like a blind person saying watch your step

>>22410239
nta I don't even watch this guy and I already hate him

>>22410192
Doesn't Gura like Sykkuno?

>>22410192
>ignoring
>drew the scarf for Sykkuno
>said to him "just for you"
>follows him on her RM Twitter
She won't collab with him because she knows chumbuds will hate it but she clearly doesn't ignore him

>>22410207
There's a lot of hololive girls that hover around 1000 CCV so I'm being generous, but yes, hololive is so much bigger that the comparison is ridiculous

>>22410323
Gura likes JayTeeVA, or at least did, there's evidence to suggest they don't like each other anymore

>>22410207
Don't forget about the Minecraft kid with more than 100k ccv everytime they be streaming. Close with Corpse.
They shared almost the same fanbase

>>22410273
Pokimane has double the amount of total YouTube views. Concurrent engagement is different than long term relevance.

>>22410329
Another one in the book of, Gura would be a Vwhore without hololive.

>>22409709
Why would you need anything but Wurst and Fritten?

>>22408546
She pretty much spelled it out. She got rejected by everyone before Hololive, then became more cynical about people when they all started trying to latch on to her. Nowadays, she's happy with Hololive and has no interest in collabs outside of it.

>>22410377
Yeah, epicmealtime has zero long term relevance and it's the same size as pokimane

>>22409106
surprised they dont hit them with hikakin the godfather

>>22410458
I got into vtubers pretty late, if I knew about her before joining Holo she would def be my oshi. Right now I'm trapped in the coombait.

>>22410564
Eh, she used to be the Reddit version of Nyanners. Edgy jokes and all.

>>22410458
That's not why she was cynical, it had to do with >>22410370

>>22408439
it was a 9 hour stream obviously the ccv would fluctuate

>All this OLTV defense squad
I'm surprised you guys even watch these people

>>22411375
It's /qa/ niggers that ar malding because they couldn't get e-crleb board

Vtubing chads stay winning