/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Japanese blood

>>2236084
Miko and Marine had no leg to stand on. They literally discuss porn and laughed at an artist doujin. Bad behavior needs to be disciplined every now and again.

>>2236157
Fuck off already everyone here knows what actually happened.

Thinking back to the Haachama/Coco's drama, it's funny to me on how one month of airtime lost, so much time - just for the sake of appeasing a branch that doesn't exist anymore

>Japanese company
>makes employees apologize for nonsensical copyright dispute propped up by nijisanjifags who hate hololive for no reason, suspend them for a week or so

>American company
>apologize for having an employee who once said, did or was thought to believe something against the current democratic party talking points, fire them and collude with every other company in the industry so they can't be hired again

Someone get the Cover copypasta

>>2236328
shit that just happened vs shit that never happened

Unironically how long until some western company emerges and takes over the vtubing scene?

>>2236400
Kek, fuck off redditfag. This literally happens every day.

The only thing Cover have did wrong is not having fired Coco, not even talking about the fact that she insult China or whatever but that she intentionally did it after she knew it was wrong and would bring the company to trouble. As a company you shouldn't be allowing that open reckless for an employee behavior

Sadly that's how all idol agencies operate. That's the quickest way for things to go back to normal. You also must understand the personal ego in Japan is perceived much differently than in the west.

>>2236424
suuuuure anon just like crunchy roll and netflix took over the anime industry

>>2236084
Marine and Miko both Meade homophobic remarks about the artist. Bigotry has no place in hololive.

>>2236454

this guy is in every thread right now posting the same faggot shit, maybe he's bored and can't sleep due to his AIDS

>>2236454
Okay Chang.

>>2236448
t. angry Trumper who still thinks the election was stolen

>>2236107
I don't get it. I really do not understand the japanese culture this way.

>>2236084
What exactly did you want them to do, smart-pants anon?

They tried carrying on as normal and things only got worse.

>>2236569
You have to go back

>>2236157
This level of dicksucking is reserved for huge brands that a company wants a sponsorship with
Who the fuck is this porn artist?

>>2236564
they love kneeling

>>2236549
>>>reddit

>>2236510
Considering half the anime industry's revenue is from the overseas market according to the latest report, we're slowly getting into that reality.

>>2236328
Which is why westerners need to shut the fuck up about this. They are more cucked any Japanese company.

>>2236424
This will never happen because current western culture says that the vtube industry as it currently exists is morally wrong and should be destroyed in order to empower women.

>>2236454
Suck off your winnie the poo doll for your good boy points harder chang

>>2236618
it's true. kneeling is the correct way to sit in japan, and not doing so makes you a barbarian

>>2236656
Go back and stay there snowflake.

>>2236656
>>2236767
Ladies, you're both gay. No need to fight.

>>2236510
Netflix is still on course to do so within the next few years

>>2236454
must be nice having those social credit points, eh zhang?

>>2236328
you sound like a snowflake

It's literally just an apology. Why the fuck does it matter?
They haven't been suspended or graduated.
Let them apologise to placate this artist, then move on.
They probably wouldn't have had to apologise if the 5chan guys didn't harass her, anyway.

>>2236834
You mean the same people who use itunes and amazon and ubereats religiously would sell out the anime industry to some gaijin company? No way, I can't believe it.

I don't know about you but my oshi already talks about watching all her anime on Netflix

>>2236084
>Japanese company that may have ties to the Yakuza acts like a stereotypical Japanese company.
Please take your meds. You're really going to lose it hard.

>>2236938
you sound like a faggot

>>2236528
Bigotry is extremely cute and valid.

>>2236084
Imagine dragging the whole company through every bit of drama a talent manages to drag in. There'd be no end to it.

>>2236957
It's the principle that they shouldn't have even apologized or taken a break from streaming. I want cover and this artist to both eat shit

>>2237020
Why do you expect me to believe your post when you may have ties to the Yakuza?

THINGS COVER STAFF SHOULD DO FOR THEIR TALENT
>Help them organize schedules.
>Talk to other managers to help organize collabs. Say one stream Holo A says she'd like to collab with Holo B someday but she's too shy to ask. Holo A's manager should at the very least float the idea to Holo B's manager.
>Get permissions for games they want to stream.
>Keep track of their physical and mental health. If it looks like they are getting burnt out, give them a break.
>Make sure their connections and equipment are functioning well. Buy or reimburse them on things they need to stream. Lobby to fix problems with models or rigging if there is any.
>Watch their streams when possible and monitor any technical problems or interruptions.
>Teach them basic coporate OPSEC, research and scrub their past lives to avoid doxxing.
>As much as possible, keep track of Antis. That's not to say every anonymous comment can be followed up on, but if some guy says he knows where a Holo lives and is gonna visit her, maybe take action.
>Teach the newer ones how Hololive works, what will be expected of them, both from the fans and the company. This includes memberships, concerts, collabs, merchandise, pricing, etc.
>Support and protect them from outrage nothingburgers by Antis (this includes easily offended insectoid bugmen)
>Hire competent staff with background in talent management for managers, translators, mods, etc.
>Filter questions/SC for harassment, self-help, and not interesting questions.
>Use their prestige and connections to hook their talent up with songwriters, movie makers, artists, who want to make things for them.
>Screen all fanmade content that the Holos want to feature.
>Help foreign ones with visa so they can stay in Japan.
>Give Watame an oppai mousepad.
>Focus on EN and JP Holos because they are the only important ones.
>Put some effort into the presentation of their big end of year multi branch live.
>Help them with projects.
>Acknowledge when they fuck up and move to rectify.
>Encourage new and varied content when the Holos come up with it

THINGS COVER STAFF ACTUALLY DOES FOR THEIR TALENT
>Why the fuck would a manager help with scheduling?
>Some managers barely even talk to their Holos let alone other managers. Lamy's manager said she wasn't a good fit with anyone. Coco is being prevented from collabing with EN. Calli may be barred from collabing with certain Holos.
>Just play Overcooked, Dark Deception, and that one fucking "game" with the plug people.
>Harass and stalk them.
>Source your own equipment, not like it's critical to your job or anything.
>Fix your own streaming issues, we're not a tech company or anything.
>Hire SEAniggers who will harass and stalk them.
>Oh hey one of our talents reported that her manager is harassing and stalking her? Better not do anything about it.
>Figure it out yourself lol. Maybe we'll make a keychain for you after two years. Also we decide your image so if Watame wants an oppai mousepad, she can suck it.
>Teach their Holos to apologize for mistakes the company made in an attempt to shift blame.
>Kneel and bootlick angry Antis and suspend their talents hoping it will appease them (It won't RIP ALOE).
>Hire incompetent people with no background in talent management as staff, rather they are just SEAnigger fans (*oserbait) and end up being at best fucking "SAY THE THING" creeps, (like the HoloEN manager Marine met) and at worst people who will one day rape and kill the Holo (*yger, Mel's manger).
>Pick the worst and most Gosling questions.
>Suisei has literally released one original song since she joined Hololive. She released two while she was indie. Kiara had to go commission her own song without Cover.
>Let tracers through and make your Holo look like a fool for having to hastily retract emotes after announcing them.
>Hang them out to dry, not my problem lmao.
>Watame, that's not your image, no oppai mousepad for you.
>Have more Indog Holos because people totally asked for that.
>Nah let's just videotape a fucking screen.
>Shot down Pekora's project, made her cry. Marine has to provide half the funding for her project out of her own pocket, despite Cover raking in millions.
>Oh we gave a bunch of Chinks mod powers in Coco's chat, tech company btw. Sucks that all these fans got banned, just submit a ticket through our fucking website, we have our best intern on it probably.
>Oh Haachama poured her heart and soul into a month long horror arc that was well received? Better tell her to take it all down because we won't actually go to Youtube on our talents behalf. Just like Asacoco 1.0, swimsuits, and public ASMR, it's less hassle just to can it.
>Forces their talent apologize because some fujos got their panties in a twist

>>2237104
Based.

>>2237181
It means you can trust my posts more. I am forced by a strict honor code to never act in such a way that brings disgrace to my organization or senpais.

>>2237182
Based

>>2237182
stop repeating yourself my man

>>2237182
>WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS
The absolute state of Holoniggers.

>>2237259
>>2237257
t.newfag

>>2237259
How new?

Hololive management isn't proactive. They always react to situations after the shitstorm is already in full effect.

I wouldn't be surprised the few licencing agreements they have were due to these game companies liking the talents and actually aproaching Cover in the first place.

>>2236400
That shit even happens here in western Europe. But nice argument.

>>2236668
Both are fucked up

>>2237493
Denial is their first go to strategy for everything anon, and when faced with it directly they say the person deserved it anyway so it doesn't matter. Don't bother engaging with them. At least the Japanese are transparent about how their culture works like in this situation without layers of obfuscation.

>>2236084
I see doomposters have acquired additional bullets today.
Will this event be a week worth of shitposts?

>>2236328
Nijiniggers are to blame for every fuckup from cover. I bet the next thing y'all are going to blame them is for the manager wanting to fuck mel.

>>2237182
didnt read kusa

>>2237330
if this is a popular pasta around here I suggest you guys trim it before posting again. it would be more effective and more open to extension if it didn't list the same points 2-5 times

I've been on 4chan for 15 years so don't get mad at me for not visiting your 3 week old board

Shit like this situation just emphasizes that if your oshi still streams as their roommate, just support roommate and not the Hololive character.

All of you know though that Cover isn't changing, even if these situations where one of the girls cries, because Cover is rolling in cash. More specifically, your money

>>2236328
Ah yeah, the classic holo manager who harassed Mel is nijinigger agent

>>2237662
time to promote socialism then-oh wait
>right wing nutjobs lurk this imageboard

kek

>>2236328
>thing bad but what about other thing that is also bad

Has any company thrown their employees under the bus more times than Hololive did?

>>2238364
No, it's
>why are Japanese so fucked? Look at this retarded culture that makes them do stupid things
from Americans/Westerners who have worse culture that does similar but worse things

>>2237259
summer is early for this board

>>2238233
this doesn't work when your oshi is ugly and can't exist as a tittystreamer

>>2238411
>from Americans/Westerners

Westerners are literally asleep right now, retard

>>2238442
I still like Korone though

>>2238498
stop making such retarded posts whether you're joking or not

>>2236328
>everything bad is Niji fault

>>2236454
Hello Chinks

Eat bat soup

>>2236084
>throws their talent under the bus
all they did was apologize lol

>>2236157
Of course you don't know what happened

>>2238910
For something they shouldn't have.

>>2238910
>all they did was bend the knee lol

>>2238498
Why would I be asleep at 11am?

>>2236662
Overseas market = 90% china 10% western

>>2239109
for something they shouldn't have done? yes, I agree

>>2239109
welcome to Japan. Apology is used as a way to diffuse a situation. If they didn't it would be much worse. In Japan doubling down is seen as something extremely horrible. Better to apologize and move on.

>>2239268
"doubling down" is a very american thing imo. japanese doesnt even have the equivalent word to it. also even americans, before twatter, werent really doubling down this much. web 1.0 didint have so many dramas and angry mob. twatter has obviously been destroying a traditional western way of communication.

>>2239453
Except when it comes to gambling or drinking.

>>2239453
>japanese doesnt even have the equivalent word to it.
Well yeah because it's a blackjack term.

>>2236328
rent free

>>2236454
2 social credit points have been deposited to your account

>>2236400
Donald McNeil Jr. was fired for using the n-word a year ago, and he didn't use it as a slur. He used to identify WHICH slur was used by someone else and was asked to say it. Still fired. This shit happens all the goddamn time and the more Western market Cover invites, the closer they get to recreating another Zhang incident.

>>2240029
actually he was fired because he tried to justify using the n word. as it it's fine to say in certain contexts (it's not; ever; not unless you're Black yourself)

are the old people that heard about imageboards from facebook posting about cancel culture again

>>2236454
Kill yourself stinky Chink insect

>>2240060
That's even worse. Please kys. I want you as far away from Hololive as possible, because you'll cancel Miko.

>>2240029
Who the fuck is Donald McNeil, let alone Donald McNeil Jr? And why should I give a fuck? He probably sucked at his job and needed an excuse

>>2236157
thanks Zhang your 50 cents has been deposited

>>2240029
>>2240060
What about Biden lol. He used it as well

>>2240079
He was a reporter. This is the market EN claims is good for JP talent, btw.

>>2236454
Your argument is literally impossible to debate

>>2240029
why should i care about anyone named donald

>>2240068
fuck off twitter zoomer. I started using imageboards before you graduated grade school

we've always hated hysterical cult faggotry here and that didn't change when you joined two years ago

>>2240079
>Who the fuck is Donald McNeil, let alone Donald McNeil Jr?
The former CEO and the VP of Fucking Google It Inc.

>>2240097
Did he vote for himself? He's black, of course.

>>2240107
>TDS

Keep in mind, JP should be be more wary of Western influence than Chinese influence by any stretch of the imagination, for as much as a bully China is, they at least had a reason. Western markets are straight insane.

>>2240124
settle down gramps, take your heart medicine

>>2236084
Is this the thread where armchair businessmen NEETs pretend they own successful multinational conglomerates?

>>2236564
APOLOGIZE
FOR
EVERYTHING

>>2240131
>they at least had a reason
What, that an independent country that they have no political power and haven't for as long as their current government has existed over should actually be considered their province and that anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is an evil traitor or traitor enabler?

>>2240124
Maybe it sounded good in your fat head but bragging about how much you've used imageboards is like bragging about how much meth you do.

>>2240182
No, they're patriotic, at the very least. Didn't say they were logical, but you can trace it down to a cause. There is no way to trace it to a cause in a Western market. It's just completely fucking random, and I seriously hope Cover is wise enough to understand this and keep some distance.

>>2240188
>he doesn't marathon meth binges while jerking it to anime girls
ngmi

>>2240144
t. newfag who can't possibly not be one because he's too young to have even been using a computer by himself when 4chan launched

play fortnite harder

>>2240214
You fucking PWNED him old man!

>>2240188
We used to detest newlets here and that didn't change when you joined two years ago. you sound literally 15

I'm also not fat and can deadlift 400lbs. you?

>>2237182
Sad the curry part didn't make it into this version

>>2240188
>bragging about how much meth you do
you should check out /fit/, it's basically a shrine to worship prescription meth

>>2240230
thanks bro

>>2240255
ok grandpa, back to bed before you shit those pants real good from anger

>>2240296
Cringe

>>2236454
Nice b8 m8

>>2240296
>KFP shitposter.
Imagine my shock.

>>2240317
>PJW shitposter
typical old man scared antifa is coming for his guns

>Capitalism, Japan

>>2240255
This is the same theatrical performance as saying you're rich and then never posting a pay stub. Let's see your bicep, fatty.

>>2240255
>bragging about his gay roiding hobby that he uses to compensate for his small dick on a board for virtual anime idols
dude... just stop. I know you have dementia and all but cmon

>>2240255
>t. methhead

>>2236454
All chinks should should be raped to death. Nanking was too nice for them.

>>2240313

>>2236084
>Japanese people in charge of conflict resolution
Pureasu understando

>>2236328
This is true unfortunately.

>>2240196
I can explain the western problem actually

>people are born as blank slates
>everything about them is determined by their environment - society
>therefore, anything in society that can influence them negatively can be seen as wrong
>we do not see 100% accurate representation in all professions or all positions of power when you separate by gender, race, sexuality, sex identification or any given meme division
>therefore, things in society are stopping people from realizing 100% accurate representation
>since everything is determined by environment, and there are countless factors in that environment, even the smallest of contributions (microaggessions) are part of the problem
>therefore to solve the problem we must solve all the microaggessions
>therefore we need to eliminate from the environment and thus the society anyone who doesn't believe all the above or won't work to solve all of the above, in order to stop their influence
add in a few vindictive people who like wielding power and merely use the above as their excuse to do it and you have the Western problem in a nutshell

so they do have a reason. even if that reason is based on false beliefs and even if it makes less sense than the Chinese one

In comparison, American companies be like:
>You denied that man's rights to be called a woman, you're fired, transphobe.

>>2240710
anon this is a vtuber board

>>2240850
oh

>>2238389
Maybe some Ameriburger company when an employee was outed for saying nigger 15 years ago on X-box live.

>>2240719
go back polfag

>>2240296
>real good from anger

yeah this is minor talk

the people who care hard about politics are typically doing this to distract you from their total lack of a personality or personal interest in hobbies. don't take the bait, they are doing this for themselves because they have nothing actually interesting to say.

>>2236454
She casually acknowledged the existence of taiwan.
Fucking get over it you CCP faggot

>>2241103
>Taiwan
Doesn't exist

>>2241094
based lunaito

>>2241135
weak bait, stop larping

>>2241157
Whatever you say, island chink

>>2241170
>chink
outed yourself

>>2241180
Not only are you an island chink, you also have 0 reading comprehension. Stop replying to me forever nigger.

All they did was apologise. No suspension (As of me writing this). If you think "You have to say sorry for the shit you said" is throwing someone under the bus, then you'll probably shit yourself about all the backhanded shit western companies have been pulling for the last couple of years. At least with Cover you can see the how and the why.

>>2237182
Peared

>>2237259
how can this board be so fucking new and still be filled with newfags?

>>2236084
Tanigo is a pussy and dont want to get in hot water over fucking fujo bs

>>2236454
Your ancestors would literally murder you and toss your corpse into the Yellow River for bowing down to some bald retard and his outsider ideology.

>>2241201
kill yourself retard

>>2236454
Not sure what's worse. The fact there is a basement dwelling faggot larping a china defender, the fact the basement dweller might defend them unironically or the fact it might be an actual brainwashed mainlander.

>>2241573
it's the same two people. you can tell it's the other one because this one isn't posting about rule 3 and anti-asian attack headlines

>>2241692
what

>>2241692
>It's the same two guys
>But for real

Dear god someone buy them hookers.

>>2237182
I fucking hate Cover do goddamn much

>>2241763
>Anon actually believes

>>2241716
the other chinese roleplayer pretends to be offended by the term bug and then whines about racism, rule 3 and anti-asian attacks

>>2241573
>>2241692
Sanefagging Cocotard

>>2237182
Shit!
I was looking for this copypasta!

>>2237182
COVER HATE

>>2241225
They were gone a week, anon. Cover just made it stealth this time to avoid being called out.

>>2241135
If Taiwan doesn't exist, then why are Zhangs so mad about it?
Checkmate, bug.

>>2236454

>>2241135
Only heterosexuals can see Taiwan. No wonder you can't see it.

>>2242056
>People can't hate things that don't exist
As expected of an island chink.

>>2242056
Fuck you stupid American and Japanese lover. You are a ghost. China will destory everything you love. We only want peace and you are fucking my sister you're are ghost; Fuck

>>2242122
Why do you hate Taiwan? Why are chinese egos made of cheap chinese glass?

>>2242143
thats almost a sentace zhang

>>2237493
>western Europe
you mean new california?

>>2242036
I really don't see the problem with that. Would your rather they take a week off or deal with a bunch of legbeards.

>>2242122
>>2242143
I don't always fly fish this hard, but when I do, I bait the bugs.

>>2242201
They could have straight up ignored the legbeards and no one would have cared.
Fujos are shit. No one likes them.

>>2242195
keking assuming you mean California as in the calif etymology and not as in typical liberal onions hipster

>>2241087
I don't agree with the newfag, but shut the fuck up frogposter

>>2242229
You have no idea how corporate/Business shit works do ya? You don't ignore the problem. Best they could do was give Miko & Marine a week off so they could come up with some half hearted apology so that shit goes back to normal.

And as the chink infestation shows, ignoring the problem doesn't do shit.

>>2242143
>you are fucking my sister
yes

>>2242301
fujos aren't paid by the japanese government to be niggers on the internet, they'd have moved on in a day or two if cover didn't panic and put out a response

>>2242163
>Why do you hate this traitorous, secessionist island?
Use your head for once. Taiwan is formed and is still led by traitors who willingly sucks colonialist cocks just so they can remain in power, to the point of willingly antagonizes their own countrymen. Can you imagine these retards who willingly throw away their dignity to be a modern colony? Absolutely embarrassing. Yes, I'm sure there're some Taiwanese people who are good, who knows that they're being used as a tool and reunification to be the only way they can move forward, but they're too weak to make a change and there's no chance their opportunist leaders would let it.

>>2242301
>And as the chink infestation shows, ignoring the problem doesn't do shit.
The kowtowed to China at every turn EXCEPT to the point they wanted Cover to throw away their highest SC'd talent, the fuck are you smoking?

>>2242344

This is the internet, upset people don't move on from anything. Hell you see it every day on here. Let alone Twitter where the fujoshis are shitting.

>>2242245
Honestly, I would rather western europe to become the new Ummayads than to become Wokeland 2, both are still awful as hell, but at least the Umayyads still had a culture

does anybody in this topic actually care about miko and/or marine or are you using this current yab to shitpost about politics because it is the only thing that remotely fires up your dopamine

>>2242386
To be fair, they had business relations with China at that point, so they kinda had to, until they realised it wasn't worth the effort.

>>2242378
What I don't understand is that if the island is full of weak traitors with no dignity then why do the commies want it? Also, this is /vt/, not /pol/.

>>2242416
how new?

>>2242378
>Left Taiwan to be occupied by Japan.
>US kicks out the Japanese.
>WHY ARE THEY A COLONY?

>>2242429
To be even more fair, they have zero business with these fujos.

>>2242416
Little bit of [Column A], a little bit of [Column B].

>>2242445
To make sure Burger can't use the island as a foothold to threaten the mainland. Also as pathetic the Taiwanese are, they still deserve a second chance to reclaim their dignity.

>>2242416
I'm gonna say it. All things considered Cover handled the yab pretty well.

People who say they should've just ignore it really don't pay attention to how long people hold the grudge against holos. Which is ironic.

Out of all the possibilities I'll take a week off and a half assed apology if it means shit goes back to normal.

>>2242445
They don't want it. They literally abandoned it.

>>2242494
It's still something that could affect their talent negatively. Out of all the cockups that could've happened, I think an apology and a week off is the least shit option out of everything

>>2242467
Of course you're pro colonialism. For all their boastings of freedom, no one else hates freedom as much as the west

>>2242416
First they came for Aloe, and I did not speak out—
Because she only just debuted.

Then they came for Coco, and I did not speak out—
Because I she was not my oshi.

Then they came for Marine, and I did not speak out—
Because I wasn't into hags.

Then they came for Korone—and there was no one left to speak for her.

>>2242467
Watching the allegedly great and powerful China get bent over one fucking island will never be not funny

>>2242574
>not into hags
>korone
I have to break something to you, anon

>>2236328
corporate culture seems to just be flawed on both sides of the planet. but that doesn't make this any better

>>2242546
It already negative affected them, just not business wise. Stop pretending fujos have any power.

>>2242559
The QING DYNASTY set it up as a colony in the first place. Lay off the fumes, bug.

>>2242582
It will stop being funny in 6 months when that island is theirs.

>>2242636
>The quick industrialization and rapid growth of Taiwan during the latter half of the 20th century has been called the "Taiwan Miracle". Taiwan is one of the "Four Asian Tigers" alongside Hong Kong, South Korea and Singapore.
Imagine being beaten by a "colonial" island and an autonomous "colonial" city.

>>2242625
Qing didn't exist in the13th century dumbass. Taiwan's been a part of China for longer than most of the countries in the world had been exist

>>2242496
Chinese people are faggots though? I would pick living in Taiwan over living with a bunch if dumb chinks that get killed by faulty escalators and eat raw bats. Mainland china is a shithole.

>>2236528
source? hasn't marine talked a ton about yuri and yaoi? why would she make homophobic remarks when discussing a gay doujin lol, shes admited to reading them a bunch

The only thing this thread has accomplished is give me ammo next time that fag shows up in the Delta threads and says "Cover dodged a bullet."

If anything DeltAloe dodged a bullet leaving there.

>>2242636
How do you know that? Are you CIA?

>>2242706
He doesn't know...
>The island was annexed in 1683 by the Qing dynasty of China, and ceded to the Empire of Japan in 1895.
This isn't even MENTIONING the DUTCH colonies they set up BEFORE that. It was always a colony, you're just mad you butterfingered it and it ended up in more capable hands.

>>2242636
It'll actually be even funnier in 6 months because you'll be saying the same shit as now.

>>2242692
Their economy has been stalling since the 2000s. Only island chinks are still clinging to some pre-2000s greatness as if it made them a superpower. Not even japs are this retarded post the bubble.
>>2242708
It's a good thing that no Chinese will ever invite to move there huh?

>>2242721
Did she? Or are you just believing bullshit out of a fujo's mouth just like the artist did?

>>2242636
>ignore/allow taiwan to exist for 70 years
>now that some anime girls on youtube offended us we're going to start an asian world war
ogey

>>2242733
Anon...Delta didn't dodge any bullets. Not by a long shot.

>>2242766
Indeed it is. I live in South Korea and get to fuck Chinese college girls who obsess over white dick. Pretty good trade off. Maybe I have a photo of your sister on my phone. I might do an image dump later.

>>2242752
>He doesn't know
The Dutch attempted to colonize Penghu Islands, not Taiwan proper. Also Han fishermen already had settlement there at least as early as the Yuan era. Stop talking about shit that you have no idea about.

>>2242766
>t-they s-stalled
>th-that's wh-why it belongs to c-china

>>2242828
Sure, and I'm Elon Musk. This is just pathetic man

>>2242721
>Miko
>Marine
>Homophobic

Marine made it very clear she's bisexual and I'm about 60% sure Miko is gay unironically.

>>2242833
>Literally a colony.
>No, doesn't count!
Sure bud.

>>2242835
>Their economy is stalling
>Why do you want it then?

Communism, not even once.

>>2242625
that chink friend is most likely born in US even in mainland they will laugh at him

>>2242772
what? no I don't believe that she made homophobic remarks, that's my point. it's retarded that she's getting hate over this

>>2242854
>800 years settlement count as colony now.
The absolute state. By that logic the entire country of Finland is a colony too, after all it was mostly settled in 13th century.

>>2242879
kek

>>2242636
It'll never happen as long as the U.S. exists in its current state. I won't lie and say that they have no colonial ambitions, they've had it ever since the 2000's.

>>2242900
It was a colony 800 years ago. It was a colony 80 years ago. Is it a colony now? Debatable. But it sure as fucking isn't China's and it's called TAIWAN.
Stay mad, bugoid.

>>2242835
>>2242879
Here's the reason
>>2242496
I must say that I'm not surprised that anti-chinese can't read properly though

>>2242973
>Ching Chuan Kang Air Base. Chiayi Air Base. Tainan Air Base. Hsinchu Air Base. Yangmingshan American Military Housing.
>Accuses others of not reading.

>>2242951
It's China's. It was China's 800 years go, It was China's 400 years ago, and is still China's now. Just because they're full of traitor cucks won't change that. An empire long divided must unite after all, and as far as China's history goes this secessionist movement is something of a joke.

>>2243036
>US military bases in Taiwan.
>"No, see... uh..."

>>2242973
This, the Chinese don't want foreign settlements immediately in their backyard. Remember the korean war? China only intervened when the U.S. coalition force got close to the yalu.

>>2243036
china hasnt been china for thousands of years
you are the most cucked and raped nation in the entire world

>>2242973
Not sure but I'm pretty sure being anti-chinease is comes as a bundle with the ability to read.

>>2243011
Oh? Did you mention any of those before? *Check again*. Yep, you didn't. You're just desperate to shift the goal for some reason I suppose.

>>2243068
>The Chinese don't want something that's already there, and has been there for hundreds of years.
So?

>>2243101
>You didn't say it in this thread? You read it on publicly available sources instead? Ha ha, checkmate, because now I get to ignore facts I didn't even look up or read!
Yeah, very clever. This is why Cover cut contact with you. You're too retarded to do business with.

>>2243068
>TFW Russia and Japan are right fucking there but you're worried about America

You're so retarded, how do you even breathe,

can all of you go back to /pol/ or /int/ or nga to continue your gish galloping circlejerk i just wanna make fun of japanese management

>>2243083
Stop projecting. Just because your country is 100% mutts doesn't mean the entire world is. The modern Chinese people are descended from people who had been living there since prehistorical era. Sometimes I wonder if the lack of connection between the land and the people is part of the reason why the new world countries are so messed up.

>>2243140
>how do you even breathe,
China rates as having the most polluted cities in the world, and some are worse than cities in India. They don't.

>>2243103
So they don't want it? You didn't read into the nuance at all. They want it. The only thing stopping them from creating a bloc of tightly bound satellite states is the U.S. Think of it like the soviet union, where Ukraine, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, etc were incorporated into the eastern bloc.

small indie company please understand

>>2243172
you aren't gonna like /vt/, anon

>>2243172
This topic leaves when the antis stop spamming Coco with it. It's that simple.

so... what happened exactly?

>>2243140
How stupid do you have to be, Japan is backed by the U.S., and the Chinese can only grudgingly accept it. Russia would stand to gain more by not attacking the Chinese. It's that fucking simple.

>>2243220
Bugs are shit.
Fujos are shit.

>>2242850
You don't have to be Elon Musk to bang Chinese sluts. In the US some even sell their bodies for a pittance for spending money. Chinese girls are literally the easiest girls to hook up with.

>>2243185
>The modern Chinese people are descended from people who had been living there since prehistorical era

Holy fucking propaganda Batman

>>2243247
Not really. The russians can't stand the Chinese either. The Russians can cancel a significant amount of debt with China by siding with the US in a future conflict.

>>2243185
lmao, chink delusions

>>2243140
Japan has no desire for foreign Intervention and Russia is willing to work as partners. Compared them to the US, who's desperate to retain their status as sole hegemon and keeps throwing anti china rhetorics in the past, not to mention an extensive history of interventions and regime change.
>>2243131
Nobody brought those up before because it's not relevant, but I thank you anyway to bring more proof that the US intends to turn Taiwan as a colony to threaten the Mainland while Taiwan upper ranks willingly let this because they're desperate opportunists.

>>2243262
But they are though, even if you don't have 100 percent of your genes from a specific ancestor, you still descend from them, in a cruel kinda way, lol.

>>2243247
That's irrelevant. You have 2 countries at your doorstep yet you're worried about a country that turned you into a global sweat shop

>>2236157
That's right chong, now fuck off.

>>2243302
>No, don't bring up facts!
Let me put it another way.
You think the best way to legitimize your claim to another nation is to attack an anime girl on YouTube. That's how little a claim China has to Taiwan.

>>2243220
>Marine and Miko talk about a prank where one of them left some doujin in the fridge for the other to find
>Talk about the doujin and read a few lines for a minute then move on
>Somehow artist gets the idea they were making fun of it or something and makes some butthurt comment on twitter
>cover hate machine engaged

The Chinese seem to think taking Taiwan by force will be real easy even though they have never won actually won a real war and couldn't even take a small island 10km off the Chinese coast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guningtou

>>2243262
Literally every archaeologists and historians in the world said that, but I suppose you were taught that all original Chinese moved to Taiwan once Chiang kai shek lost. I suppose you think that Mao imported hundreds of millions of people from Myanmar or Vietnam or something?

>>2243377
>Somehow artist gets the idea
From the fujos.
>"It's our time to be the bugs now!"

>>2243294
It's certainly possible, but kinda unlikely, considering their recent activites in Syria. If what you say is right though, that makes the Chinese even more paranoid about making themselves the safest possible.

>>2243377
what the fuck
who's the artist

>>2243396
>bringing up Mao
Bruh.

>>2243300
chinks will ignore this

>>2243316
It becomes relevant when the country overseas can start a war halfway around the globe.

>>2243300
Ethnicities of rulers won't affect the population to any degree. Do you think the entire Spanish people turned into German because their kings were austrian at one point?

200 replies and it’s all over the China/Taiwan shit again. You should always apologize for small shit because they can have Cover bend the knee, but people will always support the girls themselves.

>antis make up some dumb shit
>it blows up with most people calling out how stupid it is
>Cover puts out an apology anyways, girls say they take a short break
>more of their fans get overzealously mad and run defense against Cover
>a week later they come back from a vacation and bank $50k on a return stream

You would have to be stupid to not take advantage of the opportunity. If a member had actually done something wrong, they would be trying to shush it for as long as possible, and then Cover would actually throw them under the bus.

>>2243426
Who cares? They deserve zero recognition or business from the shitstorm they participated in. All you need to know is they were flamed into hiding.

>>2243377
It's even more pathetic than I thought it was

>>2243474
>ignores the rapes and cucking of his entire nation
yes, chang you are as much original chinese as any mongoloid

>>2243367
>Let me put it another way.
You think the best way to legitimize your claim to another nation is to attack an anime girl on YouTube. That's how little a claim China has to Taiwan.
Nobody talks about legitimizing claim by attacking coco. Coco is simply an unfunny numberfag who stepped on a landmine and paid for it. That Taiwan is not a legitimate country and is still de jure claimed by China is a separate issues.

>>2243474
No but when the Arabs conquered Spain the south was heavily settled by Arabs and Berbers. Then the Northern Spanish settled their own people in the South when they reconquered it.

>>2243476
Sane anon is based.

>>2243513
You're delusional to think that the minority can in any way, shape, or form change the total genetic makeup of a whole entire population of millions. What you're pushing seems akin to some narrative from /pol/ or something.

>>2243426
I don't know, I don't even remember which girl put the book in the fridge, that's how stupid this all is

>>2243542
>NOOOO TAIWAN ISN'T REAL!
cope harder bug

>>2243580
yes, chang, you are chang in name only

Why is 90% of this thread talking about china and /pol/ shit when it's completely unrelated to the current incident

>>2243513
>Muh rape and cucking
Yeah, can't expect much from an unironic /pol/poster. Here let me ask a question then, do you think all population of Indonesians turned into Dutch too because they were under their control for centuries, longer than most foreign dynasties in china? Nope, because Dutch colonists population are tiny compared to the natives. Chinese populations is historically always far larger than their neighbors that any kind of foreign groups will barely make a dent on it. I'm sure haploautists in /his/ can give you a more thorough explanation.

>>2243634
Welcome to /vt/!

>>2243634
Because Cover hate threads are a magnet for bugs and anyone who's worth anything hates the bugs and wannabe bugs.

>>2243634
Would be easier if China stopped trying to talk about themselves in a VTuber stream. Alas, they need to be humiliated to know their place.

>>2243616
You think being white means that ur 100 percent white? You stupid fuck.

>>2243599
Taiwan is a real place, just not a real country. At best they're disputed I'll give you that much

>>2243682
>>2243686
you sound like you don't want to talk about vtubers. why are you here?

>>2243656
You're literally bragging about how your nation can do nothing else but fuck. That's not something to brag about.

>>2243682
>>2243686
Weird, the pro China posts only appears once the anti chinese posts were made. As if those are simply people trolling and baiting each other.

>>2243721
I do. I'll go back to talking about it once I get bored of playing splat the bug

>>2243721
Yes, I inwardly cringed while listening to the apology video.

>>2243740
Ironic pro china baiters deserve to be bullied

>>2243735
Yes it is, fuck means I absorb all foreign minority groups and blend their little mongoloid genes into nonexistence, and afterwards I can bully the rest into my culture.

>>2243735
I'm literally debunking your nonsensical /pol/ narrative dude. After all you claimed that foreigners somehow fucked their way till no original chinese populations left, which is reaching even if we're being generous

>>2243542
>You think the best way to legitimize your claim to another nation is to attack an anime girl on YouTube. That's how little a claim China has to Taiwan
audibly chuckled

>>2243808
but is funny...

>>2243831
>My country is so culturaly cucked that all we can do is fuck.

let's see if /vt/ is better than /v/

>>2243808
And yet anti chinese posters are always btfo.

>>2243831
Based HAN BVLLS
>>2243860
Seething cuck

>>2243860
You don't? Ur country is about to stop fucking, lmfao, and in a few decades, mexicans will take majority census

>>2243874
>defeated by an anime girl
oh no no no no noooooo

>>2243866
>The regime itself is corrupt as shit
>Pollution up the ass
>Brainwashed population
>Social Credit Score
>Censored internet
>Underground organ trade
>Concentration camps
>Religious genocide

>>2242403
My land dows not belong to a bunch of goat fornicating death cultists. Ogey peko?

>>2243918
I'm Slav, we don't have niggers

>>2243932
Cocotards said this while they endlesely complained about their oshi being fucked by the management ever since. This amount of doublethink needed to be an unironic cocofags...

>>2243998
Lucky you, I hope you know I'm just doing this ironically...

>>2244040
>Coco still here.
>Still streaming.
>Still making bank.
>Still collabing.
>Friends and genmates back her up 100%.
Stay mad.

>>2243634
Polacks cant shut the fuck up about politics and then reddit browsing newfags shit themselves with rage when they read their pol tier posts.

>>2244053
Yes, and I hate you for it, But it's something to do on break I guess.

>>2240060
Fuck off Niggerlover

>>2243961
>>2243961
1. Debatable
2. Not actually worse than any developed countries. In fact per capita US is worse
3. Nonsensical propaganda. No countries in the world had the capability to brainwash millions of people at once, much less billion.
4. Absolute meme
5. Yeah pretty bad, but China is hardly the only one
6. Every country has underground organ trade. If you mean the propaganda about compulsory organ removal than it's simply another unsubstantiated propaganda
7. Concentration camps is not necessarily bad
8. Genocide with zero deaths? What religious genocide when only the uighurs were targeted by so-called-"genocide" while the hui are left alone. maybe because unlike the hui, the uighurs are much more radicalized? Majority if not all Terroristm case in China were commited by uighurs.

>>2240151
Yes

>>2244076
Not what's in said in her threads, or global threads, or amy threads where cocotards lurk. But go ahead, keep talking about how much Coco is victorious while crying about "muh evil chinks" every minute.

>>2244283
>Didn't get fired.
>w-we w-w-w-won
That's ALL I need to say.
But she just keeps on winning.

>>2244222
no one seems to talk about the train slashing incidents, do they

>>2243866
Chinks have no soul, they don't deserve human rights.

Reminder that the kind of americhinks who go on nga and obsess over coco are the same fags who hang on resetera pandering to their niggermods and frequent r/asianmasculinity/.

>>2244356
If that's what help you sleep at night then. Meanwhile I'll continue laughing whenever cocotards blame the chinese whenever something befall their favorite redditor

Holos have said multiple times that they have to take care how their own fuck ups how new are you all?

>>2244531
And you think the anti chinks to be some chiseled aryan chads rather than obese qtard burgers who hang on niggermania complaining about coal burners and The libz?

>>2244650
Majority of cocotards here are 6 months old /pol/ migrants at best. It is known

>>2244639
How do I explain this so you'll understand, Zhang?
4chan would rather side with a redditor than a bug. That's how utterly shit bugs are.

>>2244735
>4chan is one person
>Muh we not forgive, we do not forget
Nope, you're not 4chan. Just a /pol/ reject with a permanent but impotent hatred toward a country he doesn't know anything about.
You forgot your guy fawkes mask btw

>>2244735
t. redditor

>>2244834
>If you hate China, than you're /pol/!
Yes, "one China policy," erm, "one person," indeed, eh?

This is the evidence that LGBT/Feminism are a menace to society. Even in Japan, where gay marriage is illegal, they can do this shit. Turning copyrighted straight males characters into homos and getting away with it...I think is time for the day of the rope.

>>2244878
if you obsess over china in unrelated threads/boards yes, you're /pol/

>>2244897
>taking a dump on China is unrelated to /vt/
heh sure not

>>2244934
see what I mean?

>>2244955
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

>>2242496
>>2242378
The ROC is the original Chinese state. The only traitors are the PRC who started a rebellion and usurped most of the country. The only reason you can see the Taiwanese as traitors is because the PRC has become big enough that it can control the narrative on the mainland.

> who willingly sucks colonialist cocks just so they can remain in power, to the point of willingly antagonizes their own countrymen.
Dunno anon, they're doing pretty good. Better than the mainland that's for sure. Can you blame them?

>To make sure Burger can't use the island as a foothold to threaten the mainland.
Finally, the first logical argument to come out of this discussion.

>>2245036
who's your favorite vtuber?

>>2245043
Okayu. Why?

>>2242378
>these retards who willingly throw away their dignity to be a modern colony?
Aligning with foreign powers to defend their homeland and way of life from a usurper is throwing away their dignity? Ogey Zhang

>>2245103
China regularly disappears its own citizens, even the billionaires. Shudder to think what would happen if Taiwan fell under their power.

>>2244682
Don' t you have a blogpost to go write blaming whiteys for killing asians inbetween BBC posting hapafag?

>>2245078
Because this is /vt/

Im not surprised by how this whole thing played out to be honest.

This literally is the Japanese (or more like asian) way. Their work model is to pretty much excessively apologize before the situation escalates into something more bigger, to prevent the harm from spreading to the group.
In western, the culture values the individual more so they are more likely to take the side of the individual. In eastern, the culture values the group more than the individual so they take more concern about the group as a whole.
This is why Cover is issuing such an excessive apology for something that is not even her fault. It doesnt matter if it is her fault at all, all that really matters is to prevent this situation from escalating to affect company reputation.

It sucks but this is a very typical behavior for asian company. In fact, do you guys remember Kemono friends? They fired the director, and when there was an outrage among fans the company made the VOICE ACTORS who were in no way involved issue a public apology. This is simply the reality of the situation.

>>2236454

>>2243036
>and is still China's now.
The PRC doesn't control Taiwan, it never has. Not even once. You can jump up and down over "MUH DE JURE REALITY" but no one gives a shit until the PRC actually controls Taiwan. Reality doesn't care about your feelings.

>>2243185
>Sometimes I wonder if the lack of connection between the land and the people is part of the reason why the new world countries are so messed up.
Now you're even going into wishi washy magical thinking and emotional contagion magick? Are we supposed to take this seriously?

>>2245240
>. In fact, do you guys remember Kemono friends? They fired the director, and when there was an outrage among fans the company made the VOICE ACTORS who were in no way involved issue a public apology. This is simply the reality of the situation.
Holy shit yes. I'm still seething over it.

>>2243392
I mean lets be fair. The zhangs are building insane amount of naval military and producing self manufactured aircraft carriers (Usually they commission/buy from other country like US for this)
Taiwan literally cannot defend with that much bugman firepower. Sure Taiwan got geographic advantage (Amphibious battle) but it is literally a matter of time with all the chink autism

>>2243185
Kek, the Zhangs dont even know their own history. No wonder they eat up all the CCP bullshit

>>2245280
It's not magic. There's a difference between people who worked for their stuffs compared to those who simply took others one knows how to appreciate their gift, while others don't. It's pretty hard to explain.

>>2243866
I actually used to respect the chink nation building model before they decided to fuck over Coco, mind you.
I know realize that bugmens are soulless husks that need to be sprayed pesticide at though

>>2245103
That's a nice way of saying willingly sucking foreigner's cocks so they can be used as a threat to their actual brethrens. Can you imagine a more cucked country in this world? I can't. Even the Koreas aren't so shameless

>RTAs her apology to fucking 3 minutes two seconds
>sounds absolutely over it the entire time

You all love this woman, right?

>>2245496
The true elite. Miko is too pathetic when it comes to drama

>omg chinks are bugmen I wish they all died
>omg china kills its own people and treats them like this, how terrible
what the fuck do you want

>>2245036
ROC is no more legitimate than the PRC Considering the ROC themselves usurped the country by couping the Qing. PRC won the civil war and recognized by the entire world, therefore they're legitimate
>Dunno anon, they're doing pretty good. Better than the mainland that's for sure. Can you blame them?
Doubtful. Needing to depends to your enemy just so your economy can stay afloat while sucking foreigners cock is pretty sad I say, but that's subjective anyway

>>2245340
Doesn't matter desu. In terms of naval power they don't even have a fraction of US CVNs and destroyers.
China themselves think they'll be on par navywise, not better, in another 60+ years if nothing happens.

>>2245379
Already debunked above. Read nigger.

>>2242378
Hah, that is hilarious. The entire reason why the chinese hate Taiwan so much is because TAIWAN is the legitimate government. You are the rebels who decided to take over the country and force the original government to relocate to Taiwan.

Stop lying about them being traitors or what not. You are the real traitors, and you feel existentially threatened by the fact that the legitimate government still exists to this day. What the zhangs really want to do is wipe out that dirty little smudge on their national history to pretend that they are the legitimate government all this time.
Also keep seething that Taiwan took all the chinese gold with them, bugman

>>2245594
I mean, of course China cannot reach the level and quality of US at the moment, but eventually they will. They are actually trying to build and expand their naval military like crazy to prepare for the inevitable war between China and Taiwan.

I doubt Taiwan can defend against all that chinese autism

>>2245655
Taiwan is not a more legitimate government than the PRC, nor are they the original. They took power from the Qing by rebelling too you know, before losing the civil war to the PRC despite their massive advantages.

>>2245735
Taiwan's defense is the US navy and anti-missile systems and most of China is surrounded with small buffers by US allies or slavs looking to take buffer land.

>>2245655
Are you a Taiwanese? You sound genuinely seething.

>>2245811
Therefore? Usurpation happen all the time, and the Chinese are seething that their usurpation was not 100% successful and the taiwanese government is still doing fairly well for themselves.

You all talk about them being traitors or what not, but what REALLY concerns you cucks is that they are still alive. Keep eating up the propaganda, Zhang

>>2245655
>Stop lying about them being traitors or what not. You are the real traitors, and you feel existentially threatened by the fact that the legitimate government still exists to this day.
Nope. The fact that Taiwan sellout to China's enemies do make them a threat. And no, they're not legitimate. They took power by a rebellion pointing a gun to a child emperor's head. They don't have any moral high ground.
>What the zhangs really want to do is wipe out that dirty little smudge on their national history to pretend that they are the legitimate government all this time.
They're the legitimate government all this time though. Since 1949 in fact.
>Also keep seething that Taiwan took all the chinese gold with them, bugman
If you want to pride yourself on being a thief than go ahead.
Are you an island cheng by the way?

>>2245947
It is pretty funny how you say Taiwan do not have moral highground when China has also usurped the country by force.
There is no such thing as moral highground in geopolitics bub; only cold calculations about who gets to be in power.

Everybody is traitors to their own country, and it makes you mad that Taiwan is still alive despite your betrayal.

>>2238552
YES

>>2245932
>Therefore? Usurpation happen all the time,
Funny, I distinctly remember someone complaining about PRC usurpation made them illegitimate or something
>and the Chinese are seething that their usurpation was not 100% successful and the taiwanese government is still doing fairly well for themselves
It's the reverse, the ROC is still seething that they somehow lost despite having all the material advantage against the PRC.
>You all talk about them being traitors or what not, but what REALLY concerns you cucks is that they are still alive. Keep eating up the propaganda, Zhang
You mean like the propaganda about how the ROC and only the ROC who fought the Japanese and that's the reason why they lost the war against PRC? And no, what made them traitors were their willingness to collaborate with China's enemies just to retain their scrap of power. Must felt horrible heh, to control a massive continental power only to blundered it all and ended up being a ruler of an island.

>>2246031
>It is pretty funny how you say Taiwan do not have moral highground when China has also usurped the country by force.
Do you know that Taiwanese were the one who keeps complaining about how the PRC is illegitimate because they usurped power and that's why they're the rightful government? They're the one who keeps claiming moral high ground, and an easily debunked one at that.

>>2246069
The point about illegitmacy is how the chinese populations feel """"inferior"""" to the "legitimate" government. This is the same existential threat that is faced by every country formed through usurpation.
Try to see things objectively for once, eh?
And to be honest, I dont even hate the chinese. It just makes me cringe how all you are so far up your ass that you bully a very cute dragon simply for mentioning a certain smudge in their national history on youtube and hold her responsible for it.

>>2246219
>The point about illegitmacy is how the chinese populations feel """"inferior"""" to the "legitimate" government. This is the same existential threat that is faced by every country formed through usurpation.
Try to see things objectively for once, eh?
Except the ROC is no more legitimate than the PRC. Anyone with a working brain knows that much. In fact, the only one who keeps claiming China hate Taiwan because of some vague legitimacy is Taiwan propaganda. In fact given the PRC won the civil war there's absolutely no reason why they should feel "inferior". Follow your own advice and try to see things objectively.
>you bully a very cute dragon
The rest of your opinion discarded

>>2246382
>The rest of your opinion discarded
Kek, imagine bullying someone for the sake of your """country"""

>>2246460
She's a retard. I have no patience for retards.

>>2246506
Kek, imagine bullying someone for the sake of your """country""" and being so insecure that you have to find emotional satisfaction in bullying someone.

Once again 4chan overreacting over nothing.

>>2246591
Name one good thing Coco did. The whole reddit meme alone already made her worthy of scorn. Hating her is not for emotional satisfaction, but moral obligation. Plus, if you hate chinks so much maybe you can do better than mindlessly whiteknighting a retarded e-celeb you barely know in a containment board. Maybe you can start by doing political assassinations or something.

>>2240710
Makes sesnse to me

>>2237862
being racist is against the rules on 4channel newfriend

>>2236454
At this point the real problem are the dumbasses who keep engaging with this bait