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Unironically, how do I get over feeling jealous about female vtubers interacting with males. I'm not against it happening, I just wish it was me and am envious it is not. Vtubers have kind of become a large chunk of my life over the past two years, and I don't have much social interaction outside of social media and streamers (no irl friends, no job, etc, I'm a neet). I have strong feelings for many female vtubers, and seeing them interact with males is a harsh reminder of all the things I'm not (and will never be, particularly due to crippling anxiety and autism).
This has been an ongoing problem for me for a long time now, and since so many people are talking about it on this board at the moment due to current events I was hoping we could come together and come up with a solution. I doubt I can ever stop being a NEET (as much as I hate myself for it), but I'd at least like to manage my feelings responsibly so I can continue enjoying this medium.

>> No.22400520

Have sex

>> No.22400644

Buy yourself a model, get to 5 viewers, groom a 2view and cuck her fanbase. That simple anon.

>> No.22400674

Take your meds and go outside

>> No.22400760

>>22400465
No, you don't need to get over that feeling, just accept it. New purity bros are what we need in the modern age of degeneracy.

>> No.22400811

yeah i have a solution
get a girlfriend or just accept it and delude yourself, man.

you can get one, even as a neet. doesnt matter if its some long distance relationship since theres virtually no difference from vtubers in that regard.
now the more troubling matter is if that sort of thing is for you in the first place or if youre just fucked like me

>> No.22400835

>>22400520
fpbp

>> No.22400842
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22400842

Serious question. Would a girlfriend actually solve OP's problems?

>> No.22400862

>>22400465
>and will never be,
change this mindset, your jealousy will ease up on its own when you feel better about yourself

>> No.22400903

>>22400465
perform sexual intercourse with a tangible human woman

>> No.22400960
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>>22400465
its not love (non-existent), its lust (animal instinct). unironically jack off. if u feel the same way after then ull just die in ur never ending pursuit for "love".

>> No.22400967

>>22400842
not in the current timeline

>> No.22400974

>>22400465
You have a maladapted social life and, rather than put yourself "out there" and make friends IRL, you do the thing where you instead watch other people having fun and experiencing FOMO. You are probably also a kissless virgin, so you are mixing this feeling of being 'left out' of fun social interactions with other adults with your desire to form a romantic attachment with women.
Your "jealousy" is based on you having "settled" for watching youngishwomen have good social interactions, and your mind has decided to cope with your foreveralone status by saying "w-well I just enjoy watching cute girls have fun together!" This is the closest you feel you ever will be to seeing girls smiling and laughing with you able to watch them doing so, and your 'jealousy' is that the males being added to their friend groups means that THEY will be the ones making them have a good time and be happier, not you. Since you are incapable/not willing to put in the effort to do so, even as a friend (let alone a romantic partner), you are in the end angry at yourself for not having the ability to engage in normal social interactions like they can.

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>>22400842
no, its likely he'll realise that hes a mess and has to change fundamentally, since he has that sort of mindset you would come to expect from a person with these issues. Let us pray for OP and hope that even he, is gmi.

>> No.22401012

>>22400842
No cure for autismo

>> No.22401034

>>22400903
>Imagine not forcing yourself on to your chuuba even if it’s the 3dp version.

>> No.22401076

>>22400960
this mindset only makes things worse btw; dont listen to hylic faggots

>> No.22401086

Normal route - accept that you would never get close to your oshi even if she wasn't a vtuber
Autism route - set your oshi as an ideal and work to improve yourself and become the man worthy of her
Supreme schizo route - dox and then correct her

>> No.22401091

>>22400974
So you’ve identified the problem, how do you fix it?

>> No.22401119

let me doxx myself a little for you anon, im a retard who got married at 22 and got separated in less than a year. I'm not handsome but I can atleast say I'm decently looking (i cringe saying this), but I still manage to get a few girlfriends from time to time, I'm 26 now. My advise is get in a relationship, I personally find it taxing but you'll never know unless you experience it. My current MU is cool about me being a weird fucking weeb and it's all because we partially have the same interest. My point is as long as you're a decent human being, even if you're ugly like me, you'll get a girl that will like you for who you are. Be confident, on point, and balance it like a fucking tsundere. If someone doesn't like or entertain you, move on to the next. I enjoy watching vtubers but you might end up leaving it altogether once you get in a relationship. This i show you'll overcome your misery

>> No.22401157

My wife is not your girlfriend, anon.

>> No.22401198

>>22401091
interact with real people of your age

>> No.22401206

>>22400465
Simply avoiding vtubers who frequently do male collabs is the best method I've found. I don't really begrudge them over doing them, especially the smaller ones who are doing it to try and grow their channel, but I don't want to see it.

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>>22400842
If you can get a girlfriend, you can do almost anything if you are willing to put in the effort. I am /fit/ and make 6 figures & still can't find a gf even though getting a gf is the only reason I started lifting or cared about my career/making $ in the 1st place.

>> No.22401439

>>22400465
If you can't be bothered to build up some confidence and try and take control of your life then stop hating yourself and you life, accept your place in the world and make the most of what's on offer to you

>> No.22401484

>>22401076
arent you the one making it worse and not me? if he doesnt find peace within himself how could 'just be urself and get a bf bro' change him at all?

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>>22400465
You're right to feel that way and don't let anyone else tell you that their way of enjoying grown women larping as anime girls are more valid than yours. vTubers are escapism; where fiction meets reality. In real life, it sucks when you're talking to a girl and some stud enters the room and you lose said girls attention - why do people expect you'd want to deal with that in an online setting?

Anyway there are tubers out there that stay a solo streamer; that means corpos are out. Im assuming you're a Hololive fan worried about StarsEN and if I were you, I'd start transitioning over to an indie that does GFE.

>> No.22401495

>>22401198
Not easy to do if you're out of college and don't have a pre-existing social circle.

>> No.22401766

>>22401484
Hedonism is not opposite of normie fulfilment, its just a shitty corrupted version of it. Inner peace can only come from effort and abstinence.

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>>22401198
I'm seriously considering going back to school purely for the social opportunities. I fucked up and missed all the opportunities I had and now I think it's too late for me. I've gotta do a redo of my youtg.

>> No.22401932

>>22401198
That is so difficult to do as an office worker you actually have no idea

>> No.22402028

>>22401766
this isnt even about hedonism; u are just tagging several labels for a cop out. what if nothing comes out of 'effort and abstinence'? hes still the same horny celibate as he started.

>> No.22402074

>>22400644
I love this approach

>> No.22402208

>>22402028
>unironically advocates for masturbation as replacement for love
>this isnt even about hedonism
sure, Mara

>> No.22402209

>>22400465
>I just wish it was me
then why arent you a chuuba anon?

>> No.22402242

>>22402208
>another label
what he feels isnt love

>> No.22402344

>>22400465
Just embrace it, Anon. Be unashamed of who you are, accept it, and then move on or work around it. The time for personal growth was adolescence. Now you’re just trying to be the best version of you that you can be.

>> No.22402353

>>22402242
how would you know? you dont even believe it exists

>> No.22402363

>>22400842
Unironically no. A girlfriend, or having relationship in general, does not fix you or make you happier like what movies would tell you otherwise.

>> No.22402402

>>22402353
theyve never even met. its all a figment of his imagination.

>> No.22402467

>>22400520
/thread

>> No.22402563

>>22400842
No, he would just start projecting those feelings onto her

>> No.22402566

>>22402402
Sure but that doesn't changes the fact that his underlying craving is for love.You reducing that craving and conflating it with lust is the worst advice you can give to an already confused person. If he just wanted to fap he wouldve already done so, hes not stupid.

>> No.22402671
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22402671

I get that a lot of people feel Oshi feelings about Pomu. It's very easy to feel that way. Especially because she's so obviously a horny and pent-up office lady that desperately needs someone to fuck her brains out.

But in truth, Nijisanji girls aren't trying to be your girlfriend fantasy. They're just variety streamers basically.

>> No.22402747

>>22402566
his 'confusion' is there for the sake of 'confusion'. u admit that its genuinely deep down not love but also insist its not just lust? my point is just masturbating or having sex 1 (one) wont solve any 'confusion' he has.

>> No.22402886
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>>22400842
Probably not. Incels perception of what a real life relationship is like are often skewed by manga or movies, where they only show the best and most interesting parts that will probably never occur with a 3DPD woman anyway. Instead 90% of your time is the nagging annoying shit that they don't show, and god forbid a relationship (or worse, marriage) fail and you end up worse than before you met the person.

My prescription would be for them to get a pet for companionship and for them to do their reps. Its usually when you're not actively seeking a GF that you start getting interest in women; they pick up on that and you will act more confidently when you don't really care if you go out with her or go home and play Steam.

>> No.22402928

By realizing it could have never been you in the first place

>> No.22402941

>>22400465
Your oshi's roommate has life too,
just pray she doesnt fucked up and rubs her fans in wrong way or you have to leave her

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>>22402671
If they're not even trying... imagine if they did try

>> No.22402998

>>22401495
>>22401864
>>22401932
Get a dog and take it to a dog park. Try and persuade it to interact with the pet of the person you are interested in. You instantly have a conversation starter and lots of single people (women in particular) get pets for companionship in lieu of a partner.

>> No.22403134

I felt that way before Luxiem debuted but I pretty quickly grew to like them and now I don't care

>> No.22403223

>>22400465
If you unironically tend to develop feelings like that, you should stop watching vtubers or female streamers altogether. Its not going to be healthy, you're only going to grow more and more derranged and depressed.

>> No.22404561

You don't.
You cannot.
Why? Because males inherently intrude into the whole thing and you know it. That it bothers you even unconsciously even when you try to not let it bother you shows that you are correct in being bothered.

>> No.22406309

>>22403134
You developed a cuckolding fetish

>> No.22406336

>>22400520
Already had one. Still feeling jealous.

>> No.22407623

>>22400465
You've been socially conditioned into thinking this is the natural response by surrounding yourself with extremists when it really isn't.

Imagine for a second one of these girls was actually your real girlfriend. People would think you were a nutcase and possibly abusive if you acted jealous, got in a rage and threw a tantrum everytime she talked to a male for any purpose in the course of her work.

>> No.22407799

>>22401119
why did you even think that getting married at that age was a good idea?

>> No.22407840

>>22401488
>Hololive fan worried about StarsEN
nta but I'm worried about that after seeing what happened to NijiEN

>> No.22407842

>>22407623
Jealousy is ok, but If you throw a tantrum or get enraged when your girlfriend, let alone a VTUBER, just SPEAKS to a male, you have serious issues. And yes, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking you could be potentially abusive. You sound like you would beat up your girlfriend if you misunderstood a situation.

>> No.22407862

>>22407840
Don't worry, Ame and Ina and homostar yumejos and fuck all has happened.

>> No.22407884

>>22402998
I'm sorry for your dog

>> No.22407943

>>22402998
white women get them for "companionship" alright

>> No.22408043

I always want to believe that the people who feel cucked by vtubers are all participating in some LARP of mental illness. I don't know I started watching vtubers through NijiJP years ago so male and female interaction seems like the most natural thing to me. Maybe it's a difference in how you view them. Like I think I see them more as online celebrities I have a crush on, like you might a real celebrity, it doesn't really matter what their relationship status is people still think they're hot and funny and pay money to see their content. But if you start thinking of them as your online girlfriend then I guess it's a bit different.

>> No.22408329

Whilst it's definitely a bit miserable to see happen it's good to remember that no matter how much chemistry those guys have with your oishi there is no one who understands her, no one that knows her, no-one that loves her like we do. Your oishi knows that too, even when she's having fun playing around in collabs the ones she comes home to excitedly gush about her day to is us. Have some confidence in yourself and in your oishi.

>> No.22408640

>>22400465
You used jealous and envious correctly, I like you.

>> No.22409124

>>22408043
Having a crush on somebody in a relationship has always been seen as incredibly cucked too, anon.

>> No.22409303

>>22406336
please don't lie on the internet

>> No.22409328

>>22400842
No, because to even have a chance in getting girlfriend he would need to solve his problems first.

>> No.22409362

>>22402886
Why would I want a relationship to be something so casual it only begins to develop at all without any effort towards it on my part?
Besides, I want intense emotions 24/7. Relationship is the only way to achieve that.

>> No.22409390

>>22400465
Men become jealous of other men when they perceive a threat to their woman. The simple solution is realizing that these women aren't yours, they are random people you will never meet IRL and would be nothing like you imagined them to be if you did meet them. It would only make sense to be jealous or protective of a real girlfriend, not random anime women that you have unrequited fantasies about.

>> No.22409439

>>22409390
Men who don't pursue women stop being men

>> No.22409521

ITT:
A bunch of people that should unironically be more chuuni about life and love before they end up boring sacks of shit

>> No.22409561

>>22402886
i watch zatsudans. i am trained for the nagging already

>> No.22409640

Whenever I see threads like this and see all the "relationships aren't that great bruh" type comments I can always tell exactly how responses will go like I'm reading from a script.
It's honestly pretty scary. Nobody talks like this about any other topic but somehow so many people sound exactly alike when talking about this one topic down to the sentence and words used.

>> No.22409648

>>22409439
Simping over streamer girls (anime type included) isn't trad masculinity, if you are into this hobby for romantic reasons you already stopped pursuing real women or being a real man a long time ago

>> No.22409683

>>22409648
There's no such thing as "trad masculinity". There is an objective set of traits which are masculine.

>> No.22409811

>>22407623
>Imagine for a second one of these girls was actually your real girlfriend.
Okay, I just imagined that I found out that my girlfriend planned on meeting I man I've never met before in a hotel room and intentionally hid that information from me
You wanna tell me how the rest plays out?

>> No.22409909

>>22409811
Anon this isn't Saudi Arabia, your girlfriend talking to other people isn't the same thing as her fucking other people

>> No.22410404

>>22409909
Talking to them after secretly meeting in a private hotel room?

>> No.22410872

>>22400465
>>22401488
Alternatively, start running your JP reps and move over to HoloJP.

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>>22400465
Fuck Mint

>> No.22410974

>>22400465
Become a groomer male vtuber and cuck the other unicorns.

>> No.22411368

>>22400465
You shouldn't have to cope with your entertainers doing something you don't like. They should pander to you. Drop them.

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>>22400465
Take the gay pill. It worked for me.

>> No.22411685

>>22411535
No, it didn't work for you, you're just coping with your failure instead of fixing your life and it will end poorly for you when the consequences of your actions catch up to you

>> No.22411702

>>22400465
Literally me

>> No.22411800

>>22407799
NTA but I got married at 22 because I refuse to let cynicism make me so jaded that I start seeing romance and love as just another set of desires that you should approach with your head and not your heart.
I can't imagine how miserable life would be if I had to cost/benefit analyze literally every single decision I made. It'd reduce everything to a set of numbers and how those numbers influenced my brain chemicals. There's a sadness and emptiness that's rooted in the ethereal soul we pretend doesn't exist instead of brain chemicals that that kind of life can't fix.

>> No.22413644

>>22411535
I wish I could

>> No.22413852

i think some good mates would help a tonne

>> No.22413936

>>22402566
That’s not love, it’s straight up obsession.

>> No.22415242

>>22413936
Love is just low-key obsession

>> No.22418103

>>22409683
Sure man, keep donating those akasupas, she'll notice you this time I swear. How masculine of you.

>> No.22422037

>>22418103
It is inherently masculine behavior to peacock for the attention of a girl you want to fuck

>> No.22427846

>>22400520
This

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>>22400465
Try to remind yourself that they're just normal entertainers and that they're as tangible and attainable (for us, realistically speaking) as 2D anime girls. I think that helps with the jealousy, just be glad that they exist at all.
As for being reminded about your own shortcomings, I wish I knew. Nothing short of working on your confidence will help.

>I doubt I can ever stop being a NEET (as much as I hate myself for it), but I'd at least like to manage my feelings responsibly so I can continue enjoying this medium.
Please don't give up on yourself. Have you considered developing a skill like coding, translating or drawing? Doing this kind of thing will boost your confidence, even if just a little. Maybe you'll even manage to earn money while doing it.

>> No.22430025

>>22400465
>Unironically, how do I get over feeling jealous about female vtubers interacting with males
meds

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>>22400465
just get a girlfriend

>> No.22434112

>>22401119
like i said i waa retarded, also it was actually a fairly good relationship but my wife is just mega depressed to the point that she ghosted me and there was nothing I could do to save it.

>> No.22434301

>>22400520
fpbp

>> No.22434400

>>22409362
>intense emotions 24/7
>he fell for the meme
NGMI

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>>22400465

>> No.22434632

>unsuccessful neet
>can't see other men being more successful than him
>doesn't want to do anything to improve his own situation
>decides to project his own insecurities on an anime woman who read his name once on a blue superchat he bought with mommy's money

grass, meds

>> No.22434693

Sad but true.I've been watching for a long time too. Mint will never be forgotten. Love Pomu!

>> No.22436359

>>22409909
Cuck

>> No.22437520

>>22409362
Intense emotions? I hope you're prepared to go through an endless series of 1-2 month relationships. This feeling only exists at the beginning.
If you're incapable of landing even one go at it, multiple consecutively will be near impossible.

>> No.22441546

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