/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I love Pandora! And shes live!
https://www.twitch.tv/utanopandora

yoki cute!
ohayoki!

Should the girl's Throne's be included in the OP for now on?

>>22322206
doesn't seem like something to expect in a general OP

Everyday until Chapipi sings Liberame from Hell

I love Chip. I love her a lot.

I want to get Hylo addicted to french kissing

>>22322206
considering people were buying them things before they even officially opened, I don't think anyone is going to struggle to find them

Panda LOVE

yes, I get it. Panda Love, Chippy Love, Menace Love. But what about community love? What about bros love?

>>22330375
Some of those faggots creep me out.

>>22330375
Half the "bros" are just groomer faggots

>>22330375
I'm here for the women, not men.

>>22330375
Bro love stays in the 'cords.

>>22330538
Outcaster...

>>22330375
Charmander Snobaste Moji Ivan Outcaster Bleed Rivicen Lunaris Chris Bleach Zarro SunsetZero love!
Trevor hate!

>>22331362
Am I not a bro...

>>22331917
Cali...

>>22322206
No, tourists will shit on it. Anyone who wants to simp will be able to find it on their own

>>22331362
>made it to Bro status

Feels good man

>>22330375
>>22331362
>Circlejerk love
Rope yourselves

>>22333480
Nah bro I got an oshi to live for

>>22333480
Cope

>>22331362
Thanks Calli!

>>22333480
No, I have to moderate.

Wait... Urara graduated, what if one of the new managers is...?

>>22336697
impossible
Urara went to Hololive

>>22335546
It must be somebody else because I didn't post that...

>>22337709
Smere love

>>22331362
I shall continue to support CyberLive from the shadows for the talents and the bros...

>>22338868
We miss you, Boss

>>22331362
>I'm still not here
I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

>>22338987
Sorry Norilla

>>22339097
Wrong guess. I guess the problem is that I've joined VCs in Veracord only around 4-5 times. I'm mostly active elsewhere.

>>22331362
I'm not in veracord anymore though?

>>22339909
Based. It's too tiring for me, personally.

>>22339909
Iban....

I just love Menace... I hope all the gifts and new ideas are making her a little happy!

>>22340856
Based Rand

>>22340856
Rand is GMI

Menace fans are cringe...

>>22343226
https://streamable.com/8tmjld

>>22343226
Keep playing it cool and hope Lumi doesn't figure out you are gosling, got it.

>>22343226
They are cringe but they are free

>>22343312
Don't worry I'm a cyberfriend, but Menace fans are still cringe. Menace is great tho.

>>22343226
Outcaster is gonna make it https://twitter.com/MAlchemilla/status/1514110379319828482

>>22343704
Outcasterposts make my day desu. Cool dude.

Cringe Thread

>>22344047
I agree...

How do we architect Menace?

All cringe.

Come for the needy streamer, stay for bros like Outc*ster and Z*rro

Being called cringe doesn't even faze me. Try again with something else.

>>22344160
Buy all food items on her throne, then recommend delicious high-calorie foods to replace them.

Goober's are the strongest fanbase

>>22344725
But also cringe...

>>22344725
Okay Menace

>>22344725
>>22344815
Menace is so proud

>>22344725
>goober thinks surviving one meltdown and being showered in his oshi's love is enough for his fanbase is the strongest
Typical.

>>22345234
Misaki fans are the strongest

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>>22345996
Hi Outcaster

>>22345996
Turns those feelings into art
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtly_love

Goo nighto bros

I'm gonna make it, bros.

If I pull a Boss in the next few days, you will know.

>>22346145
I have no talents or skills that would be of use to my oshi and am too much of a piece of shit to develop them. I'm NGMI.

>>22348058
>much of a piece of shit to develop them.
There is no one love can't redeem.
Love freely. Love purely. Love shamelessly. It will change you. It will make you want to change.
This is an opportunity.
Chase it.

>>22348352
Unbelievably based.

>>22348058
Accepting and realizing are your first steps to changing, mate

>>22348352
Based my friend!

>>22348352
Takoposter, you are the single most based poster in this thread

>>22348352
based takoposter. sasuga.

>>22347240

The only good thing Misaki ever did was summoning our lovely Vera to Cyberlive. Ah, how I want her to boss me around forevermore...

Why is that cutie Inori copying L*mi and moving to Twitch?

>>22350000
nice numbers. sad Misaki did what she did. Great shitposter she was

looking forward to Emma's next stream since it has been a long minute since her previous stream.

why does Cyberlive feel like a cuck company? I don't know how to feel about the amount of guy vtubers that Yoki likes to hang around

>>22353984
You mean the gay guy, the asexual guy(unless you're a mommy) and her brother, or?

>>22353984
>one is openly gay
>one is openly asexual
>one is openly married
if anything, CyberLive feels like the worst place to attempt grooming.

Good morning & Menace love!

You guys did send a spicy mallow to Menace right? She was asking for them...

>>22356119
Most small corpos are ungroomable; they just present themselves to be. This lets the vtuber groom (You). Why do you think the civil war was so violent? People are incredibly loyal to their oshis, so unity died the moment either side decided the other wasn't all that great. Menace is probably the epitome of this; she groomed goslings from Lumicord & from /wvt/ and her past life. Hell, she even groomed out a free debut highlight video instead of having to pay for one or even ask for one. When she wants to act sweet & GFE, she is incredibly good at it.

How did this general turn from hating Outcaster to loving him now

>>22361158
When he stopped being just a schizo and actually started supporting his oshis.

>>22361158
when this general has become /menaceg/.

We love Menace /here/

>>22361724
From /lumig/ to /menaceg/
Generals really are just hugboxes aren't they

I wish it could have been /chapipi/ general

>>22362666
Same bro.

Nice digits.

>>22362666
Start discussing her. I love her normal voice the most.

>>22362666
>>22362722
>trips
>dubs
Next thread better be /chip/ or >we riot

All Snobaste

All men should aspire to be like Snobaste and woo their oshis through poetry and being an all-round swell guy.

Emma live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GULqitSu7MU

https://twitter.com/MAlchemilla/status/1514237495998885888?t=rT1j-res9C0n5vrsYxC8UQ&s=19
(You) are going to draw NSFW art of Menace, right? She's practically begging for it...

>>22363268
>(You) are going to draw NSFW art of Menace, right? She's practically begging for it...
Would that I could. Definitely might skeb some, though...

>>22363268
Not NSFW, but lewd. Was planning to anyways, but it was a reminder.
I have a cooler one commissioned that Menace and the goobers will like hopefully.

>>22362666
>Chapipi is satan's oshi
What could this mean?

>>22365353
I mean...

>>22365530
>When she talked about tying (you) up
Snobaste is a VERY lucky man

https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1514272290489307136?t=3C_1ppCELk2-t1n1vJ1nLA&s=19
Will Phase Connect end up taking anyone else?

>>22365662
They're definitely not taking Hylo.
"We're not planning on joining another company" my ass

>>22365662
OH NO NO NO, CYBERKEKS?

>>22365782
Oh I'm sure they weren't at that time. Fishman saw the easy bucks and made the move.

>>22365662
CYBERKEKS BTFO

>>22365662
Fishman literally cucking cyberlive fans out of their vtubers

Oh lord first the drama now this, thanks Lumi and Yuri you make Cyberlive much more fun

>>22365662
Talk about flushing your credibility down the drain

>>22365885
>two vtubers who just broke indie, make lots of bucks due to oil barons and enjoyed freedom are joining a very orchestrated company
in no universe does this look like a good deal. Neither for them, nor for Fishman.

"we're becoming indie instead of corporate"
Money talks, i guess

Fuck you Yuri and Lumi, that spot in Phase was supposed to be for Slugma...

>>22365998
Getting work taken off your head by getting a manager may be worth the income cut.

>>22366004
they'll go back to being "indie" once they get what they want out of PC too

SLAVA YUMIKRAINI

>>22365885
Doesn't Fishman have a tech startup background? Buying off talent from a competitor is basically expected in that field. Can't really fault anyone involved since he wants to grow + Lumi & Yuri probably got a sweatheart deal out of it, but I can see why people are pissed at them.

>>22366077
it's okay menace stop seething

>>22366004
>Money talks, i guess
You don't just join a corpo within a week of you leaving another. They've probably been negotiating this for a while. Which makes it pretty apparent that them leaving had nothing to do with any sort of drama or problems with cyberlive but it was purely a business move on their part.

>>22366114
or even both.

Hey and cyber discord mods willing to leak what the other girls are saying about this?

Lads, the threads been pretty comfy the last couple of days. Don't let tribalfags and shitstirrers ruin that. Be happy for them and be happy for your oshi.

>>22365968
Whose, Cyberlive's? Agreed

>>22366114
It had, but not in a way you guys think.

>>22365662
This looks pretty bad in retrospect tbdesu

>>22366296
Cope & Seethe

I fucking hate Pippa but let /here/ whores rot together

i just kinda wanted things to be let go, i didnt expect everyone to be happy or to still like Lumi and Yuri but that was to be expected but this really is fucking sour tasting. i get maybe they still had their reasons but this fucking sucks. im pretty fucking new here but even this kinda pisses me off.

>>22366689
>newfag
fuck off faggot.

>>22366367
who's your cyberlive oshi, anon?

Ignore drama. Love and support your oshi.

stop fucking seething. they just thought pc was a better place for them, which is probably fucking true based on the recent events at CL. that's all. let the drama go and be happy for them if you like them. if you don't just keep grooming the rest of CL

>>22366114
Agree.
IMO not the smartest move optics-wise for them. I feel smart for dropping them the instant they announced they were leaving.

>>22367203
Fuck off Sei

>>22367203
I agree. Lets keep loving our oshis! I am happy for Lumi and Yuri too!

>>22367236
you think it would have been better for them to stay in this shithole? look at the lack of manager, the fucking shit talking behind their backs with even vera involved. leaving here is the best fucking decision they could have made.

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>>22367346
hi lumi

>>22367346
This but unironically and not so schizo.

>>22367332
Which Phase talent will go under the bus after she hurts Lumi's feelings?

>>22367346
COPE & SEETH FAGGOT

>>22367332
>the fucking shit talking behind their backs with even vera involved
gee I wonder why. The "shit talking" isn't even as bad as you make it sound.

>>22367203
No one cares about this enough to seethe. It is off topic though so kindly gtfo back to your containment thread.

>>22367453
all this thread has coped about for the last week was lumi and yuri. it's very on topic.

Ignore dramaposts
Ignore tribalposts
Ignore baitposts
Ignore falseflags
Tell your oshi you love her and send her a maro

>>22367502
Not really. We've been comfy talking about our talents. You keep raiding with bullshit and retreating after 20 mins due to a lack of steam though so just hurry up and pack it up already. No one is buying it

>>22367453
are you for real? their shit talking is enough to get them blacklisted by pretty much every body. because no body loves drama and their dirty drama was exposed for everyone to see.

>>22366077
Ogey menace, whatever helps you sneed at night

>>22367518
She told me not to say stuff like that while doing anal

>>22367582
cope

>>22367518
I've sent her 2 already today.

>>22367635
...??? you.... coping.... this hard???

>>22367582
the other side needs to look themselves in the mirror

>>22367582
>get them blacklisted by pretty much every body
no one will remember any of this in a month. that's how it always goes

>>22367518
My oshi doesn't have maros open.

Was going to post today's scheduled streams but I'll wait for a bit till they leave the thread. Sorry fellas.

MENACE I LOVE YOU PLEASE PLAY HALO

>>22366114
Of course this probably was made over the course of a month or two, but the cyberlive drama extends more than 1 month literally. all work misaki had was pushed onto lumi, and hylo being hylo since forever probably didn't help. Then with meg being put on the gen2 team probably didn't help lumi stay content with the situation.
>>22367439
Definitely not the worst. I've seen worse in other jobs, but not like you want to stay in a company where as a manager you aren't being an ass and still get treated without respect because of a former coworker and women taking shit at face value, that's just a sinking ship waiting to happen

Lumi is a lying harlot >>22365953

>>22367439
The leak was only a snippet of the shittalking we've seen. They've likely been doing it for months which made them decide to leave. We havent even seen the worst of it, there's no doubt someone in that position having to withstand constant shit talking had no reason to stay and they left.

The funniest thing to come out of this, for me, is the amount of drama-loving virgin channers who keep insisting that they know what women are like. Makes me laugh every time.

>>22367881
The profile pics are a week older than the timestamps on the leaks. The leaker scrolled back and cherry picked the worst things they could find to cause maximum damage.

Is /pcclg/ unit dead now?

>>22368175
Always was

>>22367582
This didn't leave /vt/ and its' own sphere.
You niggers should've brought that to Twitter and Reddit if you really wanted it to happen.

IT IS ALWAYS FUCKING SOMETHING
I HATE VTUBER CORPO WARS

>>22368175
/pcclg/ unity was a psyop conducted by the star

Now I know why Vera wanted to stay off the internet for a few days
https://twitter.com/veravee__/status/1514263546737090563

>>22368417
Send her some nice maros. I already did.

>>22368175
/pcclg/ unity has been achieved.

I haven't watched a panda steam in a week
What have I missed

>>22360500
Menace groomed me into a paypiggy

>>22368417
I don't think Vera is gonna make it....

Are we gonna be okay CyberBros?

>>22369371
No, CL forever exposed as a trash fire

>>22369371
Duh, we'll be fine

>>22369371
Just keep supporting your oshi. She keeps the character and model if worst comes to worse, so I don't think it's worth worrying about.

>>22369371
Seriously considering giving up on Vtubers altogether.

>>22368214
This was the real mistake, had it been done on those with enough push it would matter. Since it stayed contained to the threads literally nothing comes of it other than lumi having more reason not to talk to anyone(except chip and seina)

>>22369371
yeah just have fun, that's what it's about anyway

>>22369371
I've been over them for over a month now so yes.

>>22369371
Emma's numbers blow them the fuck out combined, CL is fine without them

>>22369371
CyberLive's viewership is very scattered and isolated, so i guess this changes literally nothing for the company.
For other companies, however, this is a major red flag.

>>22369371
It's ok, rest of gen 1 graduates in a month and gen 2 is getting poached by Tsunderia and PRISM

>>22370209
>Tsunderia
he lacks critical information

>>22370536
Don't underestimate Char's kingdom

>egg ringfit
imagine...

>>22370209
Who would go where?

>>22370209
Considering 90% of CyberLive's members planned to graduate earlier than Lumi ever did, this is believable.

>>22371409
isreal Hi Hylo

>>22370209
Pandora would be happy in Hololive

>>22371550
none of them are ever joining any other corpos after the leaks.

>>22371500
Why would I be Hylo? Last I checked Hylo is jealous of Lumi.

>>22371331
Chip would go on my family tree where I would support her financially and she can continue to stream as an indie for fun.

>>22371409
Hell, Gen 2 wanted to graduate before Lumi ever even thought about it probably.

>>22371598
If those leaks are that damning then lol, because that is some mild shit for them to be clutching their pearls over

>>22371409
The fact that Lumi even became a Manager to try save the fucking ship instead of leaving before realising it's not worth it should make people think why and show how recent her decision was.

>>22371932
The leaks themselves don't have that much power, but the walls have ears and Yuri and Lumi's side of things will spread through backdoor channels. It just won't be a public shitshow.

Don't (You) have (You)r thread to post which was agreed by (((majority poll)))

>>22372102
Phase already sided with Yuri and Lumi. You think anyone would take Menace the menace after the leaks? Urara is gone. The fish holds all the power.

>>22372124
Be easy on them anon... They can't seem to figure out how to keep their thread up so they'll be shitting up other generals in the mean time. At least we get free bumps

>>22372102
Phase already picked a side and Cyberlive is blacklisted if what Menace said is right. With Phase comes Tsunderia and Prism too.

>>22372345
>Cyberlive is blacklisted if what Menace said is right
Let's not blow it out of proportion, at most it would be only Menace.

>>22372411
Menace will drag her gemmates down with her.

>>22372251
Honestly I want to think that the regulars left the board for good and there are all just yabbit shitters falseflagging now, because it wasn't like this when >we were together...

>>22370205
>however, this is a major red flag
Agreed, they shouldn't get anywhere near a company looking to poach their employees.

>>22372466
Hopefully that's not the case, well I doubt it is for emma and chip.
>>22372506
A bunch of us that watch lumi or yuri also watch at the very least one of the other cyber girls. So it's probably that it's just something to bump thread with that's on topic at least with the less shit flingy comments.

So are you guys going to take /pcg/ out of the OP?

>>22372506
If you've been keeping track of the IP count you would notice that it's been one or two people samefagging their own posts to make it seem like they have support. This happened last time too and it achieved nothing, so just go find something better to do till they get tired and go back to their discord.

>>22372652
more like "you shouldn't get anywhere near a company whose pillar talents are on an exodus"

>>22372652
kek

>>22372706
/pcclg/ UNITY...

>>22372466
Just Inori and Yoki
Emma is untouchable and Chip stays the fuck out of the drama

>>22372706
No reason to do so at the moment, so no

>>22372811
>get cucked by PC
>no reason
The reality is fishman has declared war on all the small corpos, not removing it is a cuck move and a signal that you are kneeling to the fish.

I fucking love Chapipi

>>22372759
Tenma is always hardworking and I love seeing her collabing with Panda!

>>22372466
I'm still trying to figure out what Menace did in those leaks that was so offensive that she gets focused on. The worst thing she did was accuse Lumi of pitybaiting.

>>22372912
Me too, bro.

>>22372888
Depends on your talents and company really. Phase shares a Minecraft server with Tsunderia and Prism but the only talent I couldn't ever see being poached is Lisa out of all the talents, but I am sure their contracts aren't too bad considering their graduation rate isn't that high

Stay strong Snobaste

>>22372888
the links are just for posterity anyway. if pcg wants to remove us from their op they can do so first and afterwards if people in this general decide that it's better to remove them from ours, then sure.

>>22373075
Chip does her own thing. She and Lumi are still cool with each other.

Yoki doesn't deserve this.

So glad Lumi & Yuri is gone, i hope we can finally ban most of the Yumi's schizo fanbase. Chris, DancingCharmander, Deftly, Virial, Rivicen, etc. I want that fucking cancer gone.

God that’s embarrassing like pathetically embarrassing holy shit,

>>22372888
sometimes it's just better to side with the winner and fighting for the sake of fighting does not pay off. Samurais know something about it

>>22373382
why are you insulting some of the nicest people out there and not actual schizos

>>22373382
>not listing actual schizos like Iban

ogey

>>22373921
don't blame him, guys, it's not his fault, he's brown

>>22373823
Because they are fucking cancer. Chris is an asshole and a massive known faggot. Dancing Charmander is a fucking groomer, who seems to have given up on trying to groom menace, and lately has been trying to groom the fuck out of yoki in vera's server. I just checked and it seems like Deftly has left vera's server thank god. Virial is a psychopath. Rivicen is just constantly getting cucked by everyone and everything.

>>22374045
DancingCharmander carried Pandora’s subathon so he’s good in my books.

>>22373348
Getting her the mic next week if no one else does. Hope the Yoki bros liked my meta joke, her reaction was worth it.

Wenham.....

I hope Inori will be alright

>>22368214
Are you for real? Who do you suppose went around getting Menace pre-banned from some other vtuber spaces, then?

>>22374234
She chose to side with Menace

>>22374152
I really wish the best for him since his voluntary work might be harder now

>>22374596
Menace did it to herself by being a schizo.

>>22374045
Who are you trying to groom that you view so many people as threats?

>>22374596
networking.
lumi and yuri's staff is confirmed /here/, they also are confirmed /here/ what we've seen they've seen if not earlier, figure out the rest.

never seen one dude samefag this much

>>22374737
He already outed himself when he mentioned charmander is trying to groom menace, it's a retarded goober because of course it is.

>>22374596
Herself by being an asshole?

>>22374626
Menace's side is the right one. Who would ever really want to trust Lumi and Yuri after this? Sakana is stupid and thinking with his dick and not his brain. If they're willing to pump and dump Cyberlive(though, of course, Misaki's ass definitely deserved it) why not Phase too?

Not to mention how Lumi managed to earn the ire of everyone despite being a perfect saint who can do no wrong(lol)

Sakana must be actually delusional.

Whats up /clg/ i know there's a lot of shit going down right now but i need to ask a question. Which jannies that moved over to Phase should i be on the look out for? Any of them groomers? Apparently that chris guy is a faggot and charmander is a groomer along with virial but i dont know much about them.

>>22375717
First off, Char isn't a mod and he isn't even a groomer, he's gay and his oshi is IRyS. He just uses his disposable income to selflessly make others happy unironically.

>>22375717
Hi, don't mind the shitters, you're always free to come here
>Which jannies
Just go to Lumi's twitch channel chat and type /mods
>charmander
Idk if he's a groomer for sure, one guy seems to keep crying about it but he donates big bucks to a lot of different girls so do with that information what you will.

>>22375192
Because the fish would never pick them up if the deal wasn’t good. Lumi and Yuri have strong enough fan bases that they could’ve kept being indie, so they probably wanted the company support. It’s most likely a mutually beneficial decision they couldn’t pass up.
Jealousy is a pitiful thing, Menace. I can imagine someone with high popularity that’s taken on a manager roll receiving flack from people who are jealous of their success and seeing that step up on responsibility as “micromanaging” or some other woman bullshit. Remember women will talk behind each other’s backs over the most mundane things. Simply deciding to leave CL could be the reason.

>>22375840
As someone else who donates a lot, don't really see anything wrong with him.
I kind of understand that the amount of support given may seem absurd at times, but if we're on the same wavelength he might just like helping people.
He's even more neutral than me if he's donating to both sides.

>>22375717
Chris/Virial were CLG mods and are good people, i don't know if they still will be mods.
Dancing Charmander is not a mod, and is nice to a fault. He is quite generous, and has helped Yuri/Vera get into ASMR by buying them 3dio, I think he also bought Yoki a drawing tablet, and helped Pandora, Inori, and Lumi meet their stretch goals during subathons.

>>22375717
you can just ask in your thread, some yumi posters already migrated. Her jannies are fine.

>>22375917
I'm not Menace. Can you take Lumi's hand off your balls for a second and think about it? How do so many people think Lumi is some kind of saint? You don't get everyone pissed at you by doing that or by managing things(Granted, Misaki should have never left things so derelict that this situation had to come to pass). Why not have some faith and believe it isn't some petty shitflinging?

>>22375840
gay + loves Irys from Hololive + bored doctor, he isn't out for any female vtubers heart or to fuck them.

>>22376129
>so many people
they're just a vocal few, anon, don't let samefagging and falseflagging convince you otherwise

>>22375717
No one actually hates Char except the actual groomer who got btfo

insider anon here for you
lumis been talking to sakana since she was on staff for months. as far as i am aware he didnt poach her until the misaki announcement went up and went in. yuri mainly graduated just to follow wherever lumi went already, lumi left over the girls backtalk of her after she became management and felt unwelcome. he originally just wanted lumi but they were a package deal. lumi mainly joined because she needed funding help for her neonbeat model coming up that was originally going to be funded by cl. yuri followed to go with lumi, and was pitched to help convince lumi to join. i personally think stupid move on sakanas as they are both on twitch exclusively so they arent helping the phase brand much and will just confuse their newcomer audience.

also all this source comes from my ass so please don't ask me for proof

Can everyone just stop responding to the faggot that calls half of the sane people groomers? It's probably annie or some other seething larper, since lumi isn't here he can't do "sei known doxxer groomer faggot" and has to redirect to others who are ignorable or liked in the community

>>22376352
Who pitched this deal? The yabbit?

Everybody shut the fuck up and go throw Chip a superchat.

She has them now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPxgMQVRDo

I wouldn't really say there are any real groomers in CL community

>>22376405
>>22376352
I know you're telling the truth. Don't ask how I know, though. Sad stuff, I'm this guy >>22376129
>>22375192

>>22376466

>>22376466
based and chapipi-pilled

>>22376466
I would but I don't wanna cuck Sno

>>22376431
do you mean the deal to take them or who asked? sakana had already been dming lumi so he just asked her himself. pippa tried poaching lumi for gen 2 months ago during auditions and lumi declined then. i think the thing that changed her mind when asked again was her new model price being a challenge she couldn't really do as an indie from my understanding of what was pitched.

I'm on the snow leopard's side

>>22376610
Yuri has never made her own decisions.

>>22376608
And how do you know all of this?

>>22376712
Probably one of the many wrenches risking his spot to inform the people. I kinda admire his bravery, but I'd never risk my own position for that.

To be clear, DancingCharmander gifted like 1/3rd of Pandora’s sub goals by himself. If it weren’t for him her subathon would’ve fllopped and she would’ve been sad. He’s a good guy, and hopefully he stays in the CyberLive sphere.

>>22376352
Yuri has wanted to leave for months. You'd know if you watched her streams.

>>22376712
either you are from pc trying to figure out how or, while i understand wanting to know, i cant exactly reveal who i am without not learning more or causing problems. the best i can tell you is what i said lines up with previous actions and should become more obvious as time goes on.

>>22376796
I trust you, since I know some of these things myself. I hope you don't end up in hot water over this.

>>22376792
vouch

>>22376466
I'll anon dono next week. The tax man calls and I'll admit I'm no Charmander.

Why are superchats not enabled on my end?

>>22377035
Might have to refresh the webpage

>>22377074
tried already

>>22377035
I think she turned them back off because it was accidental.

>>22376792
she wanted to leave because her only friend was lumi (and misaki before she got fired). hylo and her got into a fight because hylo was dating a mod and then broke up with him to date his best friend after meeting up with them both for thanksgiving. ill leave the mods name out for their sake but yuri cared about them and got mad at hylo. hylo stopped liking yuri (and lumi by association) after that which is why they had a falling out publically when she left. pandora and seina weren't close to them, and gen 2 never liked lumi so they disliked yuri by association. you could see some of that by those leaked screenshots from before. yuri however only left because lumi was and didnt want to be alone.

>>22373382
Based and true, unfortunately now they're just hopping ship to phase connect will be taking on menhera girls and their fucking schizoid orbiters

You know what to do Cybergirls. Throw Menace under the bus. Leak her logs and save yourselves. You've already managed to convince everyone that Menace has the lion's share of the blame. Sacrifice her before things get worse.

>>22377180
>hylo and her got into a fight because hylo was dating a mod and then broke up with him to date his best friend after meeting up with them both for thanksgiving. ill leave the mods name out for their sake but yuri cared about them and got mad at hylo.
you should've tried harder, larpnigger

>>22377278
menace was the one who leaked the virial and /pyon/ stuff which some might consider based. she wiped her dms after the og leaks so i cant pull much out for you. just typical women complaining about everything and really disliking lumi

>>22376352
I find it weird that Yuri was the Jesse in this relationship seeing that both are 2views and Yuri is cuter than Lumi with less baggage but I'm willing to believe it.

>>22377384
>a certain ex hylo mod left her servers and stopped modding around that time
>hylo publically went somewhere for thanksgiving
>people assumed yuri but they never talked about it or did an offline collab
i could say the mods name and spoonfeed you but no, that isn't a rrat

>>22377384
He's just throwing some other stuff in for the sake of plausible deniability, please understand. I've done the same thing before.

>>22377410
That is based. It's unfortunate that Menace is in a similar position now to the one she put Kiki in earlier. Only difference is that Menace has not done anything bigoted and she has more allies so its recoverable.

Wtf is going on anymore

>>22377509
>>22377500
not gonna spoonfeed you, not hard to figure out what mod either

>>22377180
Were they dating before or after he got modded?

>>22376352
>>22376492
>>22377180

I only know part of this and it all checks out at true. So I'm willing to bet all of it is true. Thanks insider anon.

>>22377641
after. he was an og at debut one of the first mods.

>>22377672
You're welcome

>>22377641
NTA, but maybe after? I know the mod as well. He's been here from early on though. All you gotta think about is who Hylo's biggest donator was at the start.

>>22377725
stop larping as me kek

>>22377563
Chapipi is streaming right now and Yoki will start soon. Also pic related happened

>you will never date your oshi
but then again
>dating Hylo

>>22377500
Misaki have you returned?

>>22376796
Good, PC's mods are niggers anyways. Thanks for giving us a heads up and to keep your head down.

>>22377749
I'm not you, but I participated and vouched

I can't believe Misaki really ran to Nicaragua and is leaking in this thread for fun... What a treasonous reprobate.

Why do I keep hearing "Well Lumi MUST have done something wrong even though there's no evidence of any wrongdoing, people don't get jealous or bitter about people performing better than them for no reason" when it's something that happens all the time, not even with just vtubing?

I try to just leave the threads when things start going down but unless there's any evidence or even a claim Lumi did anything, why do people just assume she's in the wrong?

>>22377948
I assume it's the same leaker as the Discord logs and outfits so it literally can't be.

>>22378051
The screenshots that were leaked prove it. The entire company was against her leaving, that doesn't happen by accident. If she was a sweetheart you'd see someone from gen 1 or gen 2 side with her after the leaks but that hasn't happened. She threw them under the boss anon, accept it already and move on like the rest of us.

im going back into hiding now was fun. also not really /clg/ but i have reasons to think he poached slugma from tsunderia to give her a real salary. anons seemed to deny this thinking there was no money but he had enough to pay her full time vs her minimal take a tsunderia. its why her announcement was vague (to not hurt the girls) and her leaving was urgent since they needed staff asap for lumi and yuri as well as gen 2 about to debut. they kept things under wraps if its true but ive seen things.

>>22378074
who do you think leaked the discord logs and outfits?

>>22378211
Anyone who was in that group DM, which knocks Misaki out of the equation immediately.

>>22378183
anon... part of the reason she left the company was feeling unwelcome and being told that they were shittalking her behind her back

>>22378183
>you'd see someone from gen 1 or gen 2 side with her after the leaks
No you wouldn't, didn't you see in the previous leaks how salty one of the girls was for acting as if nothing was wrong? You're either with them or against the status quo or against it. Being against it means immediate discourse within the group.

Why did Lumi & Yuri join phase connect

>>22378183
cart before the horse
she left because she was hated, not the other way around

>>22378251
she was a manager. you think she didn't have passwords?

>>22378258
Yes, so you agree with me. She did something to get to that point. Otherwise the company wouldn't be so unanimous in their opinion of her.

>>22378209
ty for your perspective. I'll be less of an asshole in this thread now that there's more to go off of.
Will just wait and see for now.

>>22378352
they are all women
it really doesn't take much for them to hate each other

>>22378297
>immediate discourse within the group
That's the point there was no discourse within the group. Therefore they did something wrong. It's 7 people's words against 2. That makes it pretty clear.

>>22378352
Yes, because in order to be disliked in 100% of every case out there you have to do something wrong. It just seemed like jealousy or held some contempt for no particular reason outside of their own menhera ones. People can be like that anon, it happens all the time and I'm not too proud to admit I've been there before. People villainize the actions of people they don't like which only accelerates that kind of mindset and it spreads to other people as well.

Tell me, what do you think would happen if ANY of the girls defended Lumi in front of the others? They'd be the next target. I'm not saying she's completely innocent but we have no reason to believe she did anything other than "Well, the other girls didn't like her."

>>22378533
Lumi is a huge racist

>>22378612
How tf can Lumi be racist when she's a nigger herself?

>>22378051
Why do i keep hearing "wow these girls are lying 2-faced bitches." because that's what people are saying based off nothing but these out of context specifically cherry picked screenshots. maybe they have a good fucking reason to be mad at them, just leaving the fucking company that everyone is trying to build up and make a success. maybe they have reason to be not like them because of messages that we'll never see or things they did that we'll never know of. maybe just because they're mad at them and are pissed at them/the situation doesn't mean they didnt have fun with them or have good moments sometimes, maybe trying to summarize the entire situation and their relationships off of a few screenshots is fucking retarded. why are some people so quick to give Lumi and Yuri a free pass and say they're perfectly innocent while also piling on Menace just because.

>>22378430
Yes because they went along with what the majority was saying. Look at how they talk about her even when she got a large donation or "getting aggressive and using Hylo", as if collaborating to grow is a bad thing or being upset about her alluding to future events without specifying anything. That's literally just the most basic stream filler that tons of people do. It's very clear their bitterness isn't driven by any real logic.

>>22378612
based

>>22378209
Wow Sakana really is cucking the whole of small corpos.

>>22378533
>seemed like jealousy
You are a Lumi fan, that's totally fine. But your "queen" isn't someone worthy of jealousy. She'd have to be at least twice her size.
> People can be like that anon
I don't trust you to tell me what people are like. I can make up my own mind about it. I personally have never witnessed a unanymous majority hate someone for no good reason, especially former friends and co-workers.
>what do you think would happen if ANY of the girls defended Lumi in front of the others?
Nothing. It's not a cult.
>we have no reason to believe she did anything other than "Well, the other girls didn't like her."
There's a ton, the screenshots themselves imply she did something.

>>22378676
There's obv a samefag because no one uses the word "catty" kek

>>22378676
I'm not trying to pile on Menace or the other girls, I think what happened is unfortunate and from my (admittedly limited) perspective it's just a case of human emotion from people inexperienced with the type of responsibility they have leading to discourse and jealousy between people who should be at least amicable. I don't think Menace is a bad person or any other Cyberlive girl.

>>22378732
>But your "queen" isn't someone worthy of jealousy. She'd have to be at least twice her size.
You forgot the part where she was their direct manager.

>>22376610
That's cool anon. pcclg unity!

>>22378209
>its why her announcement was vague (to not hurt the girls)
Despite what a lot of people think Slugma isn't a retard. She'd know full well that keeping that from the talents only for them to find out later would hurt them way more than just being honest with them, especially if it were as simple as her moving to another vtuber group that Tsunderia is on good terms with.

stop spreading rumors support your oshi watch streams have a good time

>>22376352
>>22376405
>>22376608
>>22376796
>>22377180
>>22377500
>>22377636
>>22377699
>>22377749
>>22378209
>>22378258
>>22378329

>>22378344
the screenshots were taken AFTER her termination
don't ask me how i know

>>22378732
>Nothing. It's not a cult.
You can't really believe that if one girl out of all the others defended or even said something like "Maybe it's not that big of a deal" that they'd treat her exactly the same and not as some sort of traitor. This happens all the time in social circles, it isn't some rarity and these people aren't any more perfect than another random group of people.

>>22378846
based

>>22378863
i mean you can see on the dates she was fired before

>>22378822
You are assuming they don't know and aren't keeping it hush hush for the sake of the company. It would be stupid for all parties to be public about it

>>22378815
Are you actually implying that being a manager is an enviable position? Lmao. It's on par with being a jannie.
Also could you be so kind to show me what the "enviable" manager salary she had is? Or what kind of things she took care of as a maanger? No? I didn't think so.

>>22378732
>You are a Lumi fan, that's totally fine. But your "queen" isn't someone worthy of jealousy. She'd have to be at least twice her size.
CCV isn't all there is to a streamer. She was the largest member for most of the company's existence, the most well known, had the most loyal (batshit isnane) fanbase and received the most attention both on and off stream. She was also their manager for some period of time.

>>22378533
>>22378892
>no the ONLY reason they could be mad is becuase of peer pressure!

>>22378965
Not what I said at all. I'm saying the reasons SOME of them are upset may not be based in complete truth or logic. People get emotional and let that influence their behavior and how they perceive other people's actions and not everyone has the courage to speak up against it or just doesn't want to rock the boat. It's a lot easier and more comfortable to go with what the majority is saying especially when it's people you have to speak and work alongside every day.

>>22378892
>You can't really believe that if one girl out of all the others defended or even said something like "Maybe it's not that big of a deal" that they'd treat her exactly the same and not as some sort of traitor.
I can though. It's what I'm saying. What you're suggesting is a much bigger leap in logic and based on fantasy

>>22378962
It's about the power dynamics. They had to listen to her.

>>22377384
You're defending too hard chris. angry that hylo dumped you?

>>22378183
>>22378329
I wish more people were reasonable like you.

>>22377500
Spoonfeed me anon don't be a nigger

>>22379067
Again, based on? Vera was Gen2 manager since their debut so I doubt anyone had to cow-tow to Lumi. And if they did, then are you suggesting that she was a horrible manager and treated them poorly? Surely not, right? Cause it sounds like that's where you're going

>>22378863
Almost like you logged in on someone else's account?

>>22376796
You're speaking to Xalamon, so yeah, that anon's from PC.

>>22377410
nice try. that was sei and you know it.

I am in love with Menace!

>>22379243
Based

>>22379243
Rand...

>>22379243
You're GMI anon

>>22377180
kek you going to leak how Lumi is seis sugar baby now?

I am watching Chip's stream and not paying attention to this thread.

I just want to let everyone know that I am madly in love with this virus and that she is perfect in every way.

>>22378950
Slugma explicitly said that she hadn't shared much information with the talents about her resignation, and based on how most of them reacted it definitely seems like most of them had no idea she'd be leaving at all.

>>22379426
i bet you couldnt even satisfy her headpat requirement

>>22379204
if misaki ever had access to any of the accounts there would be no divegrass yab

>>22379482
I absolutely could.

>>22379561
Misaki had access to some of the girls' passwords. Most likely that password was the same as the discord account she accessed.

>>22379561
I wouldn't be surprised if Misaki knew about the divegrass and gave her okay nonetheless.

I don't think leaker anon is Misaki, logic isn't tracking unless you really stretch.
>Misaki was fired a month ago. If she had anything password she would've been locked out
>The leaks were from after she was fired meaning the only option was her still having access
>By that logic, Lumi was manager for longer and also still would've had access
>Leaker anon leaked stuff related to PC
It's more likely Lumi than Misaki or her mods.

>>22379874
Separate anon here. Lumi cant be the leaker because Lumi got locked out of cyberlive accounts before graduation. Don't ask me how I know this.

>>22379874
>It's more likely Lumi than Misaki or her mods.
By your logic, you think its more likely that Lumi was in a server of people talking shit about her than Misaki logging into a talents account who forgot to change her password?

>>22379874
It also tracks considering there were motives for Lumi, Misaki doesn't have any other than being fired. Bringing down her previous company to make her move to join PC get less hate, and also if I read how those girls talked about me I'd be pissed off too and bring them down like that.

>>22378963
We went over all those points last thread. Here's a refresher for you: https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/22129995/#22304086

>>22379934
If that's true then Misaki was fired weeks prior and given how it went down there is no way they didn't lock her out too.

>>22379954
No. I think it's more likely Lumi had those same passwords if you are assuming Misaki had them too given she was manager.

>>22379934
>>22379964
>>22380037
Lumi was a patch manager. Why would she other talents passwords? Misaki would have made all the accounts and their passwords.

>>22380037
Misaki had access to some of the talents twitter accounts, but especially gen 2 so she could edit their profiles for debut. The only accounts she didn't have access to were the talents who didn't trust her. The talent account she got into most likely had the same password as the twitter account, and Misaki got in that way.

>>22378430
>It's 7 people's words against 2
It's 7 against 9 now that they've joined PC
7 against 15 or 16 the way things are going

I'm taking a nap, so goo nighto bros. Don't let the tourists make you too angry. Hopefully everyone has had a good day so far.

>>22380368
>people who had nothing to do with the situation now suddenly matter
ogey

>>22380520
Nigger all corpos and vtubers talk behind the scenes don't be retarded

>>22380449
have a slimy dream anon

>>22380368
Lol. Not sure where to even start with that other than the fact that you sound like an edgy 15 year old

>>22380520
you think it took lumi and yuri just a day to join phase? especially when shirara, known lumi's friend, is rumoured to be a part of gentoo? they can be much more involved than you think.

>Anon says it probably isnt Misaki since the leaks are related to pc now
>Bunch of ips jump in saying it was her and defending Lumi

You guys really don't think someone just forgot to change a password and that's how Misaki managed to leak?

>>22380837
Knowing Yoki's level of infosec, yea.

>>22380837
Considering how it's
>women
and it's
>Opsec

It's as likely as them making the accounts early on and giving them the accounts and they never changed it from the default.

>>22380837
>>22381047
Doesn't that confirm the leaks are real then? The big thing before is they are faked. So they'd have to be real for this rrat to work Also >pc leaks now Misaki shouldn't have access to

>>22381206
the leaks have always been real, how else would they leak gen 2's outfits?
The leaker included the outfit leaks in order to prove the legitimacy of the leaks.

>>22381240
If you read the archives people were claiming they weren't real and the leaker faked them and posted them after the outfits to get legitimacy.

>>22381290
that was just a lot of cope because of what the leaks entail due to how much it harms Cyberlive talents.

>>22381240
I'll shit in your dinner and you will finish up and tell me it's oishi

>>22380837
Yoki is retarded in case of cyber [hehe] security, thus making it possible, but I still doubt it.

>>22381331
Clearly yea just pointing out if the rrat is Misaki that means everything posted was real

>>22380837
Same logic would mean what if Lumi had a password at any point? There is nothing we know of to say she never got one and it was a lot closer to her graduation so they'd be less likely to kick her off. Screenshots could've been sent to her regardless of that conversation and outfits she had access to as a manager.

>>22381539
I think anons just assumed Misaki off of motive and at the time Lumi didn't have one. Now that she is in PC she has one and the timing backs it up

>>22381539
>>22381628
/clg/ will always timeloop back to Lumi posting. If Lumi really wanted to destroy the company she put months of work into she could've just retweeted the leaks after they were posted to twitter.

If I believe it's Lumi who did it, then... that means I have to believe she's a bad person. I'd rather not.

>>22381724
They were posted to Twitter?

>>22381764
By some no-followers account in reply to a now deleted Menace tweet.

I thought Vtuber women where supposed to be better than real women? It’s just the same shit.

>>22381804
Made a month ago, so perhaps they were ready.

>>22381804
I doubt Lumi would've saw that also for her public brand why would she? She needs to put on a good face

>>22381841
I don't care about that, I was only replying to anon's inquiry about whether the leak had been tweeted.

>>22381724
>/clg/ will always timeloop back to Lumi posting
that's proven false by the fact that there was not a single mention of her or yuri during the past couple of days, till one of you came here posting off-topic shit about the phase announcement. gtfo already to your discord or make your own thread

>>22381764
they weren't because the /vt/ is so fucking allergic to the only two means of making things go viral, which is twitter or reddit, that they'll get away with this, or rather it will stay between small corpos and mainstream will never learn about it despite said pics being literallly fucking posted in here with not many things to deny.

>>22381905
true. Every single one of them are bitches, so in the end, who cares about their drama? Best thing for the thread is to just forget about discord faggotry.

>>22381900
>panda
>egg pats

>>22381930
If you wanna cause problems you should post it if you want. Otherwise I think for both Yumi and Cyberlive's sake everyone wants to forget the leaks ever happened at this point.

>>22381930
The screenshots are not even that bad though so I can see why they would be afraid of posting because it could very well go the other way.

>>22382116
or be a complete nothingburger that proves they are clowns.

>>22382035
god this entire faggot board is just underage newfags. yumitards infest other generals with their pointless shit and when they do make a thread they forget to put a subject. clg fags cant properly copy a previous OP without forgetting to change the "previous thread" and "edition". should have never split from /jp/.

>>22381829
As much as they larp as 2D girls, they will always be 3DPD.

>>22382116
it's less about what they've said
it's more about that the whole situation was, and most likely, definitely now, still is
imagine gossiping along with your fucking manager about the company's greatest earner and most recognizable talent

>>22382464
i agree. it really casts a shadow of doubt over yuri and lumi as to what they did.

>people unironically believing INSIDER HERE-posting
Really?

>>22382464
after said talent ditched them and threw them under the boss. yeah it's bad but I can understand them.

>>22382559
this board is nothing like the rest of the site since a big part of it's population is vtubers and all the friends they invited to the website

>>22382677
>agrees to become a manager to save the company she really cared about and left only because of the bitches
>"ditched them"
keep seething menace, you caused all of this

>>22382559
he literallly posted things which not even the greatest schizo could fabricate
also many of the things he said weirdly turn out to be true and fully believable
i have no fucking idea who he is, but i kneel

>>22382794
Before you go back to your discord for the night I will offer you two words of advice: 1 - the more you single out one of the talents for unknown reasons the more dubious your posts seem, which makes the rest of your narrative fall apart. And 2 - whatever personal gripe you have with her, you do realize that you're spreading her name far and wide with every mention, right? "No such thing as bad publicity", as they say
Good night and stay seething jannie

>>22382794
>saved the company
rumao
>Menace mention for no reason
ogey

>>22377410
shut the fuck up, Lumi. You're a stupid whore and there are good reasons why no one likes you.

>>22382794
She wouldn't leave if she wanted to save the company. You might be confusing her with Vera, the good manager.

>>22382794
It's likely that my genmates and me (menace) never really talked in private with her, and you (Lumi) didn't manage us (me and my genmates). I think some of us felt betrayed due to the lack of communication. It's unfortunate.

>>22382677
The bus. Not the boss. Please SEAchama learn to speak.

>>22383250
>She wouldn't leave if she wanted to save the company.
And she didn't, for a while, which is why she became manager. Then got fed up.

>>22383367
it's an inside joke about Boss - a jacked gigachad viewer who's built like a bus.

>>22383283
unironic selfposting. what has this thread come to

>>22383409
Not really, she just failed miserably at her job and in her own incompetence, made even more trouble for the company and the talents by leaving. No need to sugarcoat it anon