/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>39,582: Korone (Hololive)
>38,117: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>37,464: Hal (Neo Porte)
>26,110: Choco (Hololive)
>21,758: Miko (Hololive)
>20,396: Choco (Hololive)
>18,723: Calli (Hololive)
>16,619: Patra (774 Inc.)
>13,677: Selen (Nijisanji)
>11,871: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,419: Noel (Hololive)
>11,413: Ina (Hololive)
>11,377: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,360: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,195: Botan (Hololive)
>11,000: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,904: Laplus (Hololive)
>10,776: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,471: Gatchman (Indie)

>>22368708
APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,359 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu

> PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
1x: Neo Porte
1x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
4x: Aqua
2x: Okayu, Pekora
1x: Hal, Calli, Subaru, Kuzuha, Korone

>>22368708

>>22368111
>Spics
>>22368211
>ES
You guys do know that the biggest Spanish streamers are from Spain and stream during yuro hours right?

>>22368708
>Choco with 2 +20k streams
Chocosen, my knees hurt...

* NIJISANJI TALLY OF THE DAY *

>38.094: Kuzuha
>13.704: Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji EN)
>11.430: Ibrahim
>9.344: Yorumi Rena
>8.397: Alban Knox (Nijisanji EN)
>7.310: Hayato Kagami
>6.894: Kanae
>6.822: Sasaki Saku
>6.350: Lize Helesta
>6.182: Alban Knox (Nijisanji EN)
>5.341: Enna Alouette (Nijisanji EN)
>5.188: Fuwa Minato

Remember to do your reps, anons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNTAMY1NZA

>>22368809
I'm on my 10th loop brother.

Post the dancing doog

>>22368809
I am not giving a holonigger views, anon.
Maybe try in /r/Hololive

>>22367388
Danjyarasuly based take in a bath of holy water, I wholeheartedly agree with you, though I've been one of the few to push for a ID tally just to piss off the EN fags and their petty special Olympics gold.

>>22368829
Sorry I meant 1000th

predictions? https://youtu.be/wZFcLzt4Rgc

>>22368895
25k

>>22368809
Video 9/10
Song 8/10
Pretty good electro swing song

>>22368895
20k. 30k max

>>22368895
is this reverse totsu like the one that Anya did?

>>22368895
Pekora had mentioned being part of a lil' Collab today, so she might be present at AZKi's totsu? Her voice made it guess as much at the end of her member stream.

*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>1,187: Rumi (indie)
>1,073: Annin Miru (indie)
>867: Mizuki (Meridian Project)
>737: Annin Miru (indie)
>448: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>430: No. Fifteen (Rescute)
>328: HaiZ (Monstar)
>320: Loco Lost (indie)
>298: Amrzs (Monstar)
>263: Kamiina Haruhi (Cloud Horizon)
>223: Olda (Monstar)

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>18,784: Mori (Hololive)
>13,704: Selen (Nijisanji)
>11,454: Ina (Hololive)
>11,392: Mumei (Hololive)
>8,609: Fauna (Hololive)
>8,397: Alban (Nijisanji)
>6,182: Alban (Nijisanji)
>5,341: Enna (Nijisanji)

>>22369029
EN Gold so far for April

1. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,476 (April Fools model swap featuring IRyS as Kronii)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 39,453 (April Fools 3DVR Variety Show)
3. Mori (Hololive) - 28,119 (Birthday Countdown and Call-ins)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 79,372 (Birthday 3D Live)
5. Gura (Hololive) - 40,764 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,375 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 14,677 (Kirby and the Forgotten Land)
8. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,640 (Elden Ring)
9. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,767 (Food Review w/Baelz)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,169 (Overwatch w/Ina, IRyS, Mumei, Kronii, and Amelia)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,067 (Vampire Survivors)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 17,560 (Vampire Survivors)
13. Mori (Hololive) - 18,784 (Tea Party zatsudan w/Gura and Kronii)

Hololive - 12
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

>>22369029
>>22369094
kys

>>22368732
You are such a faggot, just change it.

APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu

> PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
2x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
4x: Aqua
2x: Hal, Okayu, Pekora
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone

Fixed it for you

>>22368708
Do you even have enough lewd of korone? Feels like not alot of artist draw her lewdly.

>>22369163
tally always using the same method, suddenly you're trying to change it. newfag or troll?

>>22369163
off yourself or post a screenshot of hal above 36,512, those are your two options

>>22369172

>>22369094
Guess the cull handicap isn't enough for NijiEN to put up a fight outside of celebrations / events / big collab?

>>22368708
>Choco top 4

>>22368782
I'm aware, and their audience is majority spanish no? Even if the Latam peeps can catch them they still serve primarily Spain which, if I'm not misremembering, spends a metric fuckton of hours online since despite living in a beautiful place, is poor as fucking shit.

>>22369163
yep, that's another entry in the holocope list

>>22369163
kys. Keep the tally method consistent

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes:
>6627: Kobo (HololiveID)
>5641: Zeta (HololiveID)
>3791: Reine (HololiveID)
>2645: Ollie (HololiveID)
>2272: Kaela (HololiveID)
>2094: Risu (HololiveID)
>2090: Ollie (HololiveID)
>1567: Iofi (HololiveID)
>1477: Mika (Nijisanji ID)
>1297: Mythia (Indie)
>869: ZEA (Nijisanji ID)
>654: Anya (HololiveID)
>642: Nia (MAHA5)
>594: Risu (HololiveID)
>581: Bonnivier (Nijisanji ID)
>576: Risu (HololiveID)
>567: Lumi (MAHA5)
>360: Siska (Nijisanji ID)
>339: Layla (Nijisanji ID)
>225: Alia (MAHA5)
>216: Siska (Nijisanji ID)

If I missed anyone, just let me know. Also just a heads up: I'm taking the advice from another anon, so at the end of this month I'll not make the daily ID tally anymore, but instead switch to make weekly or monthly chart for ID chuubas. Still learning how to make them atm.

>>22369332
I have read the stars, guided by the hand of Ranni and I conclude....that they are naturally reclining.

>>22369272
>>22369398
Its not about the method or the format. Its the fact that Hal won on the 12th but the Nijinigger Tally Anon refuses to acknowledge his win.

So what kind on numbers do we expect from the Kronii/Moona MC collab tomorrow

>>22368869
I don't even care if they post their retarded special olympics here but the fact people have started taking it seriously and it takes up so much of this thread's discussion fucking sickens me to the core

>>22369459
>tallyanon
>nijinigger
are we being raided?

>>22369377
>spain
>beautiful
It's a fucking desert.

>>22369459
How fucking new? He's used the same method and in said same method, Pekora took a win off of Kuzuha last year. She was higher on Holostats, but beaten by Kuzuha on another ranking, and ultimately the Holostats peak was higher than any other Kuzuha peak. Literally the exact same goddamned situation you schizo fuckhead. It was accepted then, but your newfag ass is so hurt over giving a single day that you've decided to try and upend how Tally anon has been doing things for months!

Ah, peace

>>22369459
>it's not about the method
>tries to change the method
what did he mean by this?

>>22369513
15k if it's on Kronii's channel

>>22369539
>tries to shoehorn in a Kuzuha win on the 12th despite Hal winning
>not a Nijinigger
you tell me

>>22369172
Dunno, there are plenty for a Holomember to me https://nozomi.la/search.html?q=inugami_korone

>>22369625
go back, newfag

>>22369332
I guess the hype for Luxiem's finally dying down or something. Literally no NijiEN male was able to beat fucking Fauna of all people today. Selen only beat her because she did her first public karaoke that was also unarchived.

>>22368708

>>22369625
Stop falseflagging retard

>>22369539
That much is obvious, not sure if this rewriting the gold winner shit comes from the discord trannies trying to kill the thread or from deranged schizo global tourists who can't cope with a single Niji win though

>>22369512
>implying EN wasn't always the majority of the discussion here since well before the "EN Gold" started
How new?

>>22369423
Hehhh but that's much better that way though... Thanks for the ID tallies anyway.

>>22369571
I'll take your word for it, my tourist ass only knows of Spain from promotional materials.
Point being, piss poor and terminally online, a population of sub 50m ends up with some of the highest CCV streams on Twitch.

>>22369377
>>22368782
What's the reason behind spanish streamers being the most watched on Twitch? NA population isn't way lower than LATAM+Spain and the en streamers also get european viewers. The spanish don't.

Besides, Auronplay usually streams during afternoon in Spain which is shit time for LATAM viewers and Ibai streams during EU prime time which isn't still prime time for LATAM viewers

>>22369710
You're the fucking newfag, JP always got bigger numbers so we naturally discussed JP more until this cancer started spreading

>>22369094
>>22369163
i'll unhide these next month. fucking idiots

HoloENbros... we are losing the EU timeslot...

>>22369592
You just don't get it do you. The Nijinigger Tally Anon is using Kuzuha's peak on Vrabi as the basis for his "win". However, Vrabi doesn't track HAL so its only fair to assume that if Kuzuha had a higher peak there that HAL would have probably had this one as well. We do have a couple sites that do track both on among those sites HAL has the highest reported peak when both of them are on the same playing field (pic related).

>>22369513
A tenth of the first PekoMoon Collab.

* FINAL SCHIZO TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

VOX FUJOS: 200 (YOU)
EN SCHIZO: 199 (YOU)
LAST SAMURAI SCHIZO: 134 (YOU)
GEN 5 SCHIZO: 143 (YOU)
EN TALLY SCHIZO 121 (YOU)

Seething 2view schizo did not make the 100 (you) cut, sitting at 99

>>22369707
We have some rabid Anti-nijisanji schizos that have existed in # for at least half a year+. I'm pretty sure they're helping push this nonsense. I'm no fan of Nijisanji, but Kuzuha still got that win according to how the tallies have been done up to this point.

>22369881
I told you to stop falseflagging, retard

>>22369911
I like this tally...

>>22369911
Oh no no no how do we save the seething 2 view?

>>22369621
Kronii won't stream her PoV

>>22369881
>so its only fair to assume
>would have probably
NUMBERS
WHERE ARE THE NUMBERS
PROVE IT YOU FAGGOT
GUESSING IS NOT DATA

>>22369868
A 22 minute EN stream is never even halfway done reaching its peak, I don't care what culls you believe in but EN/ID waiting rooms are fucking fucked with no doubt about it.

Case in point: Kiara just inclined past Fullgay's peak (which he's 1k away from now, but hey you do your own special number count anon).

>>22369868
?

>>22369881
ogey

>>22369810
We really didn't. EN always dominated the discussion here aside from maaaybe the very early days of the thread. JP discussion saw a massive down turn when VNUMA died.

>>22369911
kek

>>22369423
I watched Risu's vampire survivors stream. She's kinda bad at interacting with the chat. Strange cuz I love her totsus and collabs.

>>22369810
I mean if you count
>FUCK YOU EN WHORES YOU ARE RECLINING JP GETS THE REAL NUMBERS CEE CEE VEE
As discussing JP numbers, yes. Is this the actual source of EN tally seethe? That it promotes discussion of ENs more? Fucking lol.

>>22369807
English streaming is more fragmented. Spaniards/latinos are weird, instead of having a diverse scene with lots of personalities and niches they all flock to one funnyman who gets hojillion views as a result. I think their tv has been like that too.

>>22370126
I'm not really into Risu except her Karaoke stream. So I can't really tell. Maybe she just bad with multitasking?

Honestly, why do I feel like EN 3 and StarsEN are gonna be the gen that's gonna blow up and make vtubing great again?

>>22369810
EN had massive CCV counts until December 2020 when Youtube culled them so I have no clue what you're talking about.

>>22369868
uh huh

>>22369807
>NA is pretty rich, relatively speaking, their attention is split across multiple entertainment mediums and platforms
>Latam has only a 34% internet coverage rate
>NA has 93%
>Spain has 96%
That's why.
Also, Auronplay starts at 5pm Spanish time, looking at my conversion chart for timezones here, so that's good enough for many Spanish peeps.
Thus, being piss-poor but having easy access to online, streams that are free are a massive draw for the Spanish population, and it's why the highest CCV streams are Spanish.

How do we save Kson lads!?

>>22370250
Is it the same thing with that ID streamer anons discussed from previous thread? People just flocked in even when he's playing Angry Birds?

>>22370301
Not gonna happen. the key ingredients are missing

>>22370301
>StarsEN
I swear you morons that mention StarsEN are just setting up for grudge posts. They'll be lucky to have Noctyx (NA) numbers, because they're never gonna get enough collabs even with the NA girls that want to collab (Mori, Bae) to incline them. Every time a holo has thrown the homos a bone they did not incline at all, Holo viewers do not budge and actually start watching males, there is never any transfer whatsoever.

What's been going on in these thread lately? They're especially shit.

>>22370408
They will still do better than the NijiEN girls, lmao

>>22370322
why is Kiara getting such low numbers for Sims when Vox is getting 10K+ or even 15K+ sometimes

>>22370301
Because Western Vtubing in general is kinda hitting the lowest point ? Small corps & indie dramas, NijiEN but it's actually NijiCN, Myth already established themselves and they're not changing that much content wise, Council and IRyS are just average, not a big hit like most people thought. So your hope for EN3 is higher than usual ?

>>22370510
The winner of gold was disputed on the 12th and the thread discussion has been dominated by that and especially shit since then.

>>22370551

>>22370348
how many sites are these bitches using to stream?
>youtube
>twitch
>mildom
>twitter spaces
holy shit

>>22369868
>losing a timeslot no one is competing for
I WISH I was being catered to.

>>22370408
Most people currently watching Holo don't have any interest in male vtubers anyway.
Even if they collabed frequently with the girls it wouldn't help that much for solo streams.
They'd need to find a new demographic like the Niji guys did.

>>22370512
Maybe one might incline to Selen levels if he's astronomically lucky. Sorry, but a homostar getting 13k twice in a week is basically the equivalent of a JP holo pulling two 100k+ streams back to back.

>>22370567
meh, just ignore and scroll past. Same thing happened in January with Kanata gold in the waiting room vs. Niji main account.
People get over it fast

>>22370551
>reduced to picking on chimkin CCV
oh how the face of vtubing has fallen.

>>22370512
nah, that's not happening
maybe the most popular of the bunch will maaaybe manage to hit Reimu numbers

>Hal is responsible for facilitating the big numbers Kuzuha got because its his tournament
>Hal beat Kuzuha on a few sites
I don't see how the gold debate even exists. Kings must pay their tribute to the Emperor, for it is his grace alone that allows for such a bounty of numbers.

>>22370250
>Their normalfags are numberrots
>Not gonna watch it if it doesn't pull numbers
Kek
>>22370297
She's also bad at picking up comments to reply to. Some greynigger ask a request to her, (not through donation or superchat) then it somehow paint her in a bad light since she doesn't know how to do it. I'm not gonna say in detail about it. She should have tell a story to fill the dead air if the chats has nothing interesting to say. To be fair, it was full of beggars of a certain chuuba

>>22370551
>Picking on chimkin numbers
Eugh... Disgusting...

>>22370363
Yes, see >>22370333
Except that Indonesia has an internet access rate of like...70+%, so a lot of poor people online with plans that allow for unlimited YT access via mobile? I think, an indo mentioned it once in /#/, but such a thing would make sense as to why YT is their preferred viewing platform over Twitch.

>>22370010
If that's the case, then they'll be lucky to get 10k

>>22370681
Well when both their top dogs get beaten by the second worst council in CCV in the past day and a half you have to aim for the people who don't get higher CCVs

>>22368111
I mean it's not really hard, just make the cut off 24 hours after the stream is over. Processing takes around 14 hours and after cycling for a day there's no "audience in other timezones haven't watched it yet" argument.
It would take a bit of work to define the exact rules but if anon wants, we can have it.

>>22370010
ARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH YOU STUPID CLOCK!

>>22370681
I mean, in April, he has better numbers than every EN vtuber that is not
>Gura
>Ina
>Mumei
>Mori
and Mori was below him before yesterday's chadcast
he's gonna pass her with his karaoke tomorrow
so 3 holoENs

he's definitely one of the faces of EN vtubing

>>22370774
stfu holonigger, isn't it time to gtfo back to your discord?

>>22370626
They won’t for the same reason no YouTube EN indie managed to even register in the 4 digits
>EN field is on twitch
Much like Hololive managed to funnel a segment of their non JP speaking EOP audience from their JP streamers into their new EN branch, Nijisanji did likewise to their EN boys.

Hololive (or indies) does not have this “underserved reserves” to seed a male EN branch so, IMO, they’re doomed to have at most a Holostars sized audience and there is nothing capable of saving them from that because whatever market for youtube EOP male vtubers was with Nijisanji before their JP branch before and is with their EN branch now.

>He's samefagging now
Retard

>>22369387

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F22x9_SYIhs
Completely uncontested for at least 2 hours, another 8k stream?

>>22370010
Moona channel ? 9k

Stop it pajeetchamas I didn't ask for this

>>22368708

kobo vs ollie after debut
it seems kobo had longer debut buff than ollie

>starsniggers
holy shit, those exist?
stop talking about failures, retards
enstars will be midgets just like their jp counterparts, there is as much reason to bring them up as there is for uproar

>>22370852
Is there a website that tracks VODs?

>>22371023
That is probably one of the worst timeslots, only Ina survives in it. So...maybe? But only because its VS

>>22371051
Link?

>>22371023
Yeah, 7-8k

>>22371115
Not one that freezes the count at the exact 24h after the start of a stream

>>22371023
Most likely. It's a rough timeslot, but Fauna makes it work to scrape about 7-8k.

>>22371126
https://youtu.be/ENFgGGl0y70

>>22371173
So whoever wants to do the VOD tally will have to manually check each stream after 24 hours? That sounds way more difficult

>>22370801
In other platform like Nimo TV, Indonesian viewers are encouraged to be gachis. You would feel intimidated by chats full of badge flexing people. The highest CCV I've seen there is around 20k by nugi darmawan
t. Literally went there to be a free watcher and ended up not chatting at all because I'm stingy

>>22371112
You would've said the same thing about Luxiem before they debuted. There's always a chance to strike EN gold

>>22371264
That's why no-one's bothered to do it.

>>22371116
>That is probably one of the worst timeslots, only Ina survives in it. So...maybe? But only because its VS
...this is Fauna's usual time slot.

>>22369163
>>22369459
>>22369625
>>22369881

>>22370779
Yeah. SEA greyniggers are just fucking rude and most of the times make the streamer feel uncomfortable.

/#/ is declining.

>>22368708

>>22371116
This is pretty much Fauna's timeslot provided she doesn't randomly feel like streaming earlier or if she has a collab which makes her go deeper into the night. She usually gets at least 6k even if she overlaps with Ina.

>>22371226
Holy shit, a 8 min long video to what’s essentially the daily tally

>>22371313
Pfft expecting people to WATCH STREAMS and REMEMBER TRENDS, you hope for too much!

>>22371346
Hey man.

>>22371284
well, you are right but do you think that ENstars will go for the asian fujo/yumejo audience as hard as Luxiem did?
plus there are other differences, too, like nijisanji having a much bigger female audience in Japan/Asia even before Luxiem because of their successful male vtubers

>>22371361
It's content... I guess.
They deserve their shit views.

Wait, I was being optimistic about StarsEN? Why are there already Starschizos around here or are they luxiemfags?

>>22370567
It wasn't really "disputed". Most of the early posters were just shitposting about KING GETTING ROBBED and it was pretty obvious that it was all in good fun.
Problem with the current state of the board is that there are unironic retards here who don't understand board culture and took these shitposts seriously and actually believed King was robbed or sm shit.
Half of these faggots are so new they don't know the difference between King and Emperor.

>>22371439
the only schizo are fags like you bringing up the homos

>>22371407
Nah I think Holostars EN is gonna flop too but I can't pre-emptively doompost about them because there's a chance they get lucky and blow up. Yagoo finds a way

>>22371439
They're retards that got rotted by numbers.

>>22371264
>to manually check each stream after 24 hours
>>22371289
>That's why no-one's bothered to do it.
Not necessarily manually.

I may include in in my scrapers to see what comes out of it but as there is no third party site for you guys to double check, it would be pretty much a matter of trust
>when it shouldn’t be

If I ever do it here it how it would work
>Every day, once every hour at the top of the hour, every stream (that is already saved for the monthly tally) that completed 24 hours in that hour would get their VOD views saved.

I’m not sure what data would come out of that but I could give it a try, if for no other reason, to check the relation between peak CCV, avg CCV and VOD views

>>22370602
I legit thought that 'mildom' was some kind of bdsm slang involving MILFs (milves?)

>>22368708

>>22371494
well, Yagoo hasn't found a way for jp stars
actually uproar seems to have 2 members that are the worst performing in the entire branch even
I wouldn't doubt Yagoo for JP7 for instance, but for male vtubers I'll just doompost freely since the grudgepost chances are almost non-existant imo

>>22371705
Problem with EN stars is that the bar is set so low they might actually "mog" their JP counterparts.

>>22371705
nice, i'm gonna add this to my grudgepost list

>>22370988
You are 100% wrong. Nijisanji has not captured the market for EOP male vtuber fans. NijiEN's fanbase is 99% chink.

>>22371745
I just hope their fans are not as obnoxious as NijiEn males fans.

>>22368708

>>22370626
>Selen getting 13k
She needed Vox on her stream to do it

Genuine question, why do Nijifags blame the lack of exposure of their talented livers on Holofags staying in their walled garden? Shouldn't they blame it on the company, considering Nijisanji is the 2nd biggest vtubing company in the world? That alone should have been enough exposure.

>>22371802
lol

>>22371802
Their fans will be 100% homobeggars, as opposed to the JP stars that have at least some real fans.
>bawww the boys are so underrated why doesn't Gura collab with them
Actually saw fucking EOP beggars, when discussing stars, say how well they'd fit in collabing with Pekora, Gura and Aqua.

>>22371884
>why do Nijifags blame the lack of exposure of their talented livers on Holofags staying in their walled garden?
They don’t. You’re confusing with the seething 2views

>>22370774
Agreed and Kuzuha should cede to Hal here.

A King controls a Kingdom but an Emperor controls multiple Kingdoms and the Kings of those Kingdoms must pay tribute to their Emperor.

>>22371494
The reason why starsEN is going to flop is because it's not building on top of an already proven brand. Holostars just doesn't get good numbers, it hasn't generated the same kind of fan response as hololive, people don't randomly get fed holostars content by youtube's algorithm because of those things, so where would starsEN's exposure even come from? Cover doesn't cross-promote the male and female branches because they have different target audiences.

>>22371116
Its only 1 hour earlirer than her normal timeslot. Im sure its not gonna affect her to much. I tihnk it's gonna be another 7-8k peak.

I saw an Indog mystake in my 2view husbu's stream chat, hours ago. Goddamnit they're everywhere. Why was she there instead of watching Mysta's ASMR? Kek

>>22371539
Thanks. It sounds like an interesting experiment to do and would hopefully cut down on some of the VOD coping

>>22370013
36,464 Hal (vstats) > 36,366 Kuzuha (vstats) > 36,359 Kuzuha (vrabi)

>>22371884
Those are not nijifags but 2views collab beggars.

>>22371986
No it pretty much IS her time slot at this point.

>>22370913
>He's definitely one of the faces of EN vtubing
>chat and audience is all chink
Fuck off

>>22371906
Funniest shit is when these people don’t even watch Stars streams. They always have some sort of excuse for not actually watching them.

>>22371989
They are discussing whether Mysta is still a virgin or not.

>>22371539
Sounds like it would atleast be interresting data to see. Quick question how would it deal with streams starting at the xx:30 timeslot? Just ignore it and give it 23:30 hours instead since its pretty much only La+ doing it?

>>22372114
Imagine Mysta reading about his fans calling him virgin

>>22370551
sims is a female game
kiara viewers are male

>>22371539
Only issue I feel you'd come across would be unarchived or privates streams. In those cases, you can probably just use the latest VOD count and add an asterisk to it

>>22372114
Can you decode this exchange for me?

>>22368708

>>22372224
>Can you decode this exchange for me?
Rice purity is a test where you tick off the things you've done (kissing, holding hands, sex, masturbation, etc). Low score means impure or someone who did most of those things listed here
http://ricepuritytest.com/
Mysta never revealed his score, but Vox (very low score) said Mysta's score was lower than his
Mysta's fans are basically coping and calling Mysta a lying virgin

>>22371998
>36,359 Kuzuha (vrabi)
I don’t care about whatever you guys are talking but here is the correct number for vrabi: 36,512

https://vrabi.net/video/eZknMgGpeX8

>>22372167
For his own sake, I hope he never finds this website

>>22372414
Are you telling me fujos want him to be a virgin? What kind of bizarro earth shit is this.

>>22372142
Start time wouldn't matter, right? Since VODs starts processing after the stream ends

>>22372142
>Quick question how would it deal with streams starting at the xx:30 timeslot?
>Just ignore it and give it 23:30 hours instead since its pretty much only La+ doing it?
24:30 hours. I wouldn’t be running the script 48 hours a day instead of 24 just to smooth 30 mins out of the discrepancy.

The very question is making me wary of even trying, I’m already anticipating the
>streamer X started most of her streams at :03 while the streamer Y that has a consistent lead over her started at :02
>run it again at the second precision

Tough crowd, very not worth the effort for the most part

>>22372533
fujonicorns exist

>>22372440
Maybe he did and thats why he did a gorilla twitch stream to get away from them.

>>22368708

>>22372534
Oh i might have misunderstood the original post method. I though he would be pulling the data at the top of the hour, which would cause the odd start times to either be 23:30 or 24:30 points.

>>22372534
>starts processing after the stream ends
Yes but it starts acruing views at the stream start so, if the 24 hours were measured from the stream end, a 7 hours stream would have 6 more hours than a 1 hour stream.

If 24 hours is not enough time maybe it should be 48 hours after stream start

>>22369094
Milord...

I'm curious on how much will Aqua's frame get today. Don't think there's ant big event happening so it should be safe for her gold, but it might not peak as high as before again (~60k) since they didn't really do anything worthwhile on these past 2 days while King has been doing spectacularly, so some Apex tourists might probably stay on his frame instead.
I'm betting on it scraping low 50k when her team gets top placement, high 50k if they got champion, and mid 40k if their performance are similar to today.

>>22372554
He did a gorilla twitch stream became he needed to cope after getting shit numbers on a meme stream. My man can't even break 10k on a horror mod. He keeps getting worse and worse. His best bet would be to stop giving so much of a shit about numbers and actually plays something he enjoys.

>>22372553
Yea thats fair. I was honestly mostly curious on how you would do it. Hope you go trough with it anyway just so we get some data, but i know people will use it to shitpost.

>>22372419
cool, and where is hal's numbers from vrabi for a fair comparison?

>>22372414
My score is 97 and that's only from masturbation and porn addiction. I've never been to a relationship because I really got lazy finding someone when porn is already there.

>>22372673
>but it might not peak as high as before again (~60k) since they didn't really do anything worthwhile on these past 2 days
You’re misunderstanding her draw. I can safely assume there is a huge segment there not to see her doing well but to see her doing bad and raging

>>22369423
Bobon with 60k subs on almost the same ccv as risu, jesus

>>22372727
Oddly enough the people saying that Kuzuha won can't answer this question. Wonder why!

*numberfagging*

>>22372673
Aqua's streams are still rare enough that she gets 40k as the floor, 50k seems right since we're in an arc. Even if the team plays like shit people will tune in for schadenfraude.

>>22372727
There is none. You can consider whoever you want as the truthfully winner of the most important competition of vtuber land.

Just rectifying the vrabi peak

>>22372758
Vox had a score of 2X and according to him, Mysta was even lower

>>22372179
Weirdly enough I get the feeling that Kiara is the most likely to have the biggest fan ratio out of the EN girls. Not by much mind you, it'd still probably be something like 85% male vs 15% female but thats still respectable

>>22372761
Uhh why would they even bother visiting her frame then? They just gotta follow any other POV and laugh at her when her team getting decimated is showing up on the top right kill log. Bunch of clippers will definitely do their job if she's ever to rage or cry anyway.

>>22372897
>Uhh why would they even bother visiting her frame then
kek, to see her crashing and burning first hand? There was a good segment of her failed solo masters run there for just that.

>>22372872
There was this from a while ago now.
Keep in mind it's just for songs sung at Japanese karaoke.

I just got off from watching ya boy kongming because I was hooked from its op. Seeing the MC girl being ecstatic about her insta followers going up from 200 to 4000 makes me wonder, if any of the holo/niji girls experience this level of numberrot and they'll eventually get scared of the expectations placed onto them.

Is this what Sana felt when her manager said to not give a shit about her numbers? What's the right thing to do here? Face it head-on with a plan ahead to prevent any fuck ups or ignore the problem and be a basic cringe bitch like Mori?

>>22372773
Risu is a fucking retard and seems to be purposely debuffing herself
Imagine playing a game you were literally playing with someone else again

>>22368708

>>22372965
>Rushia 0% females
That's kinda hillarious and also not suprising at all.

>>22372973
Mysta.

>>22372973
>watching ya boy kongming because I was hooked from its op
Who?

>Seeing the MC girl being ecstatic about her insta followers going up from 200 to 4000
Also who?

People have previous context for this? I may have missed

>>22372973
The virgin "I own this place, I don't give a fuck about haters" Mori

VS.

The Chad "Let me ghost my social media" Gura

>>22372965
Kiara and Mori having the most females fans seems about right

>>22372955
Then they would tune in during the actual tournament day, not during scrims. If they laughed at her crying and raging during scrims but they ended up winning or placing decently in the tournament it will just become another repeat of mindbreak Aqua caused unto them with her successful Solo Master run.

>>22373070
An anime about zhuge liang reincarnated to the present world to be the tactician for a nobody singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYmznjPfosE

>>22372708
Guy kept bragging about his numbers early on, it was obvious shit like this would happen if he started losing his popularity.

>>22370348
redebut as coco
it isn't rocket science

>>22372773

>>22373133
This has the same vibe as Saint Oniisan

>>22372965
>Marines OL fanbase

>>22372973
There are several holos with impostor syndrome yes. Kronii is the primary culprit. I think the best way is to just face it and plan accordingly. You don't want to throw away the opportunity right?

>>22368708

>>22372965
Pretty interesting data, there's a lot that could be observed from this trend.

>>22373133
Good anime to get rid yourself out of the constant timeloops and nijiEN posts in this thread

>>22372965
>Suisei 5% females
This was released when only NEXT COLOR PLANET was in the karaokes and before the album IIRC. She probably has a lot more now that she has the album

>>22368708

>>22368708

1.5M get

>>22373250
Here is the latest data for her. Stellar Stellar is also her most popular song at this karaoke place.

>>22372973
Wasn't there an anon here who got told by his manager that he should just focus on his job and leave the numbers to the managers in some threads ago? That's the correct mindset, the talents should just focus on whatever they want to do, leave the strategy to numberfag to their manager. Once someone make numbers as their goal, they kind of cease being themselves and all their content will be tailored purely for those numbers, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but most of the time it will stunt their own growth as a person.

>>22373372
Now this one is truly undeserved, she barely tweets

>>22368708

>>22373222
>>22373415
Yeah, best way is to face it regardless if your content doesn't do good and leave numbers to your managers. But even that, Kronii doesn't use her VA skills and just plays hollow knight/hades for the thousandth time.

>>22373459
Success breeds jealousy *cums on you*

>>22371023
Fauna talking is pretty much a guaranteed 7k, yeah.

>>22368708

>>22373391
This is more likely, still probably more in the actual channel statistics, or maybe it's accurate. I've yet to see actual proof of a high female ratio among hoshiyomis

>>22373459
Twitter follows and Youtube subs are just a way for "notice me when they did something" desu.

>>22373415
But the holoEN managers truly do nothing. Like, the motherfuckers can't even organize gameshow type shit on the EN channel like JP/ID/Stars. Literally every single other branch does it.
The one time they tried to weigh in on what content the girls should do it was this uncomfortable thing where Omegay tried to push them to play FF14 and even Kiara was like "damn bitch this is the debuffest shit"

>>22373585
sex hag, okayu is so lucky

>>22373641
HoloEN management always seemed like the 2nd string assigned to a project that blew up into a huge success but not because of their efforts.

It's sad that they have to make a "stars EN" instead of just putting the males into Hololive EN all to protect the feelings of Japanese unicorns who will kill themselves if the JP girls have to interact with the dudes once a year. Most EN Vtuber fans are cucks and would love for men to join HoloEN proper

>>22368708

>>22373708
Perfect way to describe them, EN management was probably like, the first 3 morons they could find that spoke both EN and JP and lived in Japan.

Shit bait

>>22373415
>Wasn't there an anon here who got told by his manager that he should just focus on his job and leave the numbers to the managers in some threads ago?
That's a dumb advice for any streamer accepted on Hololive for a simple reason
>There is no way the type of personal manager these girls get are as competent as the girls themselves to understand the streaming scene
Specially on JP, even a JKs like Haachama and Shion have 4, 5, 6 years experience in the streaming scene while even a (presumably, but not always) good manager at this low level will be a fresh faced newly entrant in the field.

I wouldn't let a manager to decide what works and what doesn't for my (hypothetical) streaming activities for the same reason a programmer shouldn't allow his non technical manager to dictate what technology he uses in his daily activities: more likely than not he knows less about the field than the person he's tasked with managing.

>>22373641
The talent managers are basically the bridge between the talents and corporate and they do other things to make whatever the talents want to do a reality.
Kiara mentioned yesterday that her personal manager reviewed her MV in around 5 hours whereas it would take Japanese managers several business days.
Mori was pretty vocal early on in saying that her personal manager would do everything for her only to have it rejected by upper management.

>>22373628
I fucked up yesterday but I wanted to post a YouTuber streaming, he has 5,10Millions but barely had 3k viewers at the time. Subs are absolutely irrelevant.

>>22371116
fauna gets 10k there often

>>22368708

>>22373747
This isn't unique to Hololive lots of people have seen a project blow up and the management get big heads because of it while the front line workers actually responsible are seething. It can get fucking awkward if you don't nip it in the bud. Someone's feelings always get hurt. Worst case the incompetents are emboldened to force their pet projects through, and the actual talent jumps ship either internally, or (the true disaster) externally.

>>22373747
That’s how Omega became the branch producer.

>>22373372
Gura:
>exists
>success, success everywhere
Must be suffering.

>>22368708

>>22373796
Anon you are just describing every single managerial position in every company in the world.

>>22373641
im holofag but im jealous nijien has events here and there in their main channel. i wish holoen had something like that

>>22373805
Remember when we thought Enma was some nefarious force standing in the way of the girls' plans? Turns out the personal mangers are almost more like personal assistants and, in general, loved by the girls. Upper management/corporate/legal seem to be the ones fucking them over. Henma didn't cancel Ame's MV, Jchad didn't put the hold on the TTRPG. Kiara bagging on Omega never fails me make me guffaw but there seems to be some genuine tension there.

>>22373939
Thanks, that's the intention

>>22373641
>even Kiara was like "damn bitch this is the debuffest shit"
If that's anywhere close to the truth whoever suggested it shouldn't just be fired: should be fired from a cannon

>>22373805
Anon there will never be a more scathing review of EN management as a whole than Myth thanking them unironically for staying the fuck away from Journey of a Thousand Years and letting them handle it.

Seriously read this fucking sentence
>And I would like to thank my manager for doing nothing and letting me handle the whole thing

>>22373961
>>22373939
Nah man that's not fair. Good management is often invisible, shit management gets a lot of attention. In fact a common problem is a great engineer/salesman/etc gets promoted to management and the skill set just isn't the same. They know their business but it's not that simple. Jesus I feel like Mori for example could use more management oversight, not less

>>22373796
Well that's why it's a manager gacha for a reason. Subaru is the living proof of it, she got a pretty shit one during her early years and had her growth stunted, then got the Touken Ranbu one who fixed her to the correct path and made her incline to the roof. And like how HoloEN seems to have a joke of upper management on their side.
Ideally the best manager for streamers like them are those who have actual knowledge of the industry AND also having an idea to Marketing 101. The talents themselves really shouldn't have to worry about stuff like marketing and scheduling to begin with if they already hired a manager, that's not their job.

>>22373960
Sadly not every girl is Marine and not every boy is Astel, with guts to skip the whole "chain of command" and to PERSONALLY demand stuff straight from upper management.

>>22374022
Funnily enough Global was having a meltdown because Irys streamed FF14 to an actual okay number (like 13K+) and that this would kickstart omegay's FF14 arc. Poor Irys, the only Holo not to have the pull to sandbag Omegay's dumb FF14 bulllshit.

>>22368708

>>22374024
Taking a step back, the fact that Ame has basically formed a little workshop of talent she directly controls, as opposed to Cover is a little weird. They should have plenty of experience in 3d streams but somehow building it all from scratch with the VRChat devs and handpicked artists was preferable.

>>22369094
Milord tomorrow is your day don't worry about it

>>22374022
It was Omega and he even put out an article about how HoloEN had perms for FF14. Early screenshots of the HoloEN discord showed a FF14 channel as well.
>>22374070
Gen 5 manager as well, they basically told Lamy that she wouldn’t mesh well with anyone in Hololive.

>>22374108
What saved HoloEN from that was unironically the Pokémon arc, which was a curse in itself.

>>22368708

>>22374070
>Ideally the best manager for streamers like them are those who have actual knowledge of the industry AND also having an idea to Marketing 101.
Yeah, wouldn't that be great! But, as >>22373960 puts, the first line managers for the girls are essentially their personal managers.

Haachama got a new manager recently and whoever it is, is responsible for keeping her on the "straight and narrow".
Most of the recent consistency coming from Haachama is 100% due to a new manager. Some Haaton are seething because they're from the "schizo Haachama" era but old Haaton are happy to see Haachama getting focused again

>>22374146
What's funny is Ina, the FFXIV vet was like, "No. Terrible idea". She knew

>>22368708

>>22373459
yet everybody knows about her

>>22374064
>In fact a common problem is a great engineer/salesman/etc gets promoted to management and the skill set just isn't the same.
That's one problem, the second problem is shitty managers getting "promoted upwards" to stop doing damage to the actual production line.

All of a sudden you see your shitty manager getting promoted to "vice director in charge of human resources" (with the same pay) and you just know they did that to save your sector from being run into the ground.

Except they end up falling upwards and upwards until they get high enough to MULTIPLY the damage they can do, from a much higher position

>>22374127
Probably because it's far easier for her since she doesn't have to deal with language barrier and timezone.
>>22374203
Every single FFXIV player will tell you that the game's story is not a good streaming content. I mean just look at ShizuRin's and Warabeda's (RIP) FFXIV numbers.

>>22374291
Does this actually happen? I hear about this "promoting retards to get them out of the way" stuff quite often, but never having worked for a company it just sounds fucking insane to me.

>>22368708

>Cyberlive girls graduate (with their cfharacter rights and everything) and IMMEDIATELY move to Phase Connect
FUCKING KEK, I wish more leaks of this discord would come out

>>22374404
happens often in big corpos, half of their middle management do no real work and walk off with a bunch of pay.
fortunately a lot of them were cleaned out during the early COVID era of downsizing.

>>22374201
Yeah, seems like most of the problem stems from the upper management, not their own personal manager themselves. Bet it's the usual old fags not knowing how the industry actually works but somehow was put into that position, just like how that one former cyber-security minister in Japan who never used a fucking computer in his life.

Itsuki is having good numbers

>>22374449
kek, not going indie but running to another company. EN scene sure is stable.

>>22374404
That scenario is an exaggeration but sometimes you have someone with a lot of years with a company/seniority who might even have a little group that supports them get "promoted" in the sense their on a higher pay scale but moved to a secondary track, like human resources, marketing, etc instead of actual development. You can't just can them, they've been loyal to the company for years and have their supporters, and it sends the wrong message to your other employees. And they usually aren't total idiots they have their skills. But maybe now that they are senior they want to have things their way, or they get entitled and lazy, or get attached to their pet ideas of projects even if the younger guys are really the future of your company. It's not that clear cut most of the time. But I've seen it several times

>>22374404
yeah more common than you think, which is scary if you think about it, if the said retards still have a good skill, in mine we called it mutation to other branch but with better position. usually they did this so they didn't need to do scouting process again

>>22373722
Based JPs

>>22374404
As someone who once worked 5 years in a corp, I can confidently say that yes, it DOES happen. And while I'm sure this isn't universal, that one case in the place I worked at actually did help, since the retard was no longer involved in the actual decision making and became a glorified executive whose only job is to sign whatever arrives on his desk.
We had a party all night long to celebrate his promotion, but the general sentiment being "Yay! We don't have to deal with this moron anymore!" was pretty funny to say the least.

>>22374404
Yes lmao. I've seen that happen in another companies.
>>22374532
You don't need to know the smaller details to steer the company unfortunately. You can find stories like this everywhere in every sectors.

>>22374404
It does, I can provide you with an example
> Marissa Meyer
Started at the lower rungs of Google and got promoted upwards, mostly because she was in a relationship with Larry Page (one of the founders).

Then she got promoted to the limit of the position Google could push her outside causing permanent damage, so Yahoo ended up hiring her to be their CEO (likely because they were angling to be acquired by Google) and she
>RUN YAHOO, FLICKR AND EVERYTHING ELSE SHE TOUCHED TO THE GROUND
She fucked up so badly on Yahoo she caused the company value to become
>NEGATIVE 13 BILLION
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/business/dealbook/how-to-value-yahoos-core-business.html

>The value of Yahoo’s stake in Alibaba is $32.5 billion and its stake in Yahoo Japan is $8.6 billion.
>The company’s net cash — or cash minus debt — is $4.2 billion. All told, that is $45.3 billion.

>But stock market investors are assigning a valuation of $32.5 billion, based on Wednesday’s trading.
>The news that Yahoo was halting a spinoff of its stake in Alibaba, the Chinese e-commerce giant, choosing instead to explore a spinoff of Yahoo’s core Internet operations plus its stake in Yahoo Japan, sent shares lower, widening that gap.

She fucked up Yahoo so badly investors would have to be paid to take it off their current owner hands (if they wanted to grab Alibaba as well). That's how high a "falling upwards" can get

>>22368708

>>22374718
So first of all, why do you hate women....
Jokes aside that's part of the reason no one put the brakes to that train, but great example

>>22369029
Milord... Save luxiem please...

>>22374203
thats only because she is well known in the FF comunity and would be doxxed left and right together with her e-boyfriend.

>>22375172
Don't worry anon, he's burning another buff+ stacking some celebration tomorrow.

Accelebrate+ buff is back in town

>>22373150
Not so much populatiy rather than finding the limits of his audience. There is just so much content he can do for them. Luxiem is not even half a year old they need to expand their userbase across different niches like rosemi did with yu gioh by trying different things.

>>22368708

>>22373805
Funnily enough, the O'riends cover MV is in review hell right now (been delayed for two week so far) and it's being handled by the JP side since Nene is the one who is managing the project.

>>22368708

>>22374404
It happens, but it's not as common or clear-cut as bitter losers and teenaged communists on the internet would have you believe.

>>22368708

>Sorry necromancer
Haachama Harem is for grownups

>>22374572
unfortunately she doesn't make any real progress and keep getting stuck on that windy Bargainburg level. She's not even halfway at the map.

>>22369684
it was basically a comeback stream for Fauna right? She was on a break because she broke everything after moving or something.

It's unfortunate because Ame and Mumei both seeme dto get big power boosts after moving but Fauna doens't seem to have gotten anything like that.

>>22375974
Hardly a come back when she dropped both a karaoke and an ASMR in 2 of the 4 days she was gone. She also put it up 10 minutes before she started the stream and took people off guard like she has a habit of doing when she never has a schedule.

Cursed Mito sort, but already picking up 500k views

Is the person behind the creepy mask Mito herself?

>>22368708

>>22375974
It wasn't much of a break, and it was a gorilla. Not exactly buffed to the moon.

>>22376043
yep
her Ranunculus "prank" is also getting some traction (although idk whether the girls were actually surprised or not).

>>22376168
>yep
That's bold as fuck. Sasuga iinchou

I will never get tired of kneeling to Suisei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNWpRhEgTzA

>>22376413
Numbers?

>>22376349
there's a reason she had the "la goblina" meme going during her early EOP years

>>22376477

>>22375923
yet she hasn't give up

>>22376413
Ah you saw that clip on reddit too huh
I went down the same road kek

>>22368985
my dude, you don't even need reps for this, just google translate the video title.

>>22376683
Suisei surely is growing on me. Not my oshi but could have been, easily

so.. 0 niji gold for april so far? what happened? they got like 200+ chuuba

>>22374449
Drama often leads to numbers.

Still kinda scary but we always thought that one small corpo would win the war to become the undisputed 3rd.

OK; the numbers are midget tier (although bigger than the usual *good* cosplays I usually found) but this surprised me as fuck.
Chink chicks cosplaying as Luxiem.

Seems to point to a deeper penetration in the chinese casual market than expected.

Anons, I just realized something. Why haven't we seen any Valheim ark yet? Permissions seem really far fetched to be an issue.

>>22376945
Niji is on their 4th string when it comes to 3d debuts. Niji"EN" is cutting into their NijiJP males a little. NijiJP women haven't been real competition for a while. All they have left is Silveryboy but he loses to Aqua and Hal. No big company wide events to pull in tourists. But surely they can get a win here or there before the months out. Right?

>>22377125
IIRC it dropped during their Minecraft arc so nobody bothered touching it, then the release hype just died off and everyone forgot the game exists.

>>22377124
hot

>>22375974
Ame hasn't gotten any big boost at all.

>>22377124
7848 views eh? Also why do they look like they were birth from artificial cocoons?

>>22377262
ame's post-moving stream frequency is way the fuck up now that she's not suffering from termite poison

>>22377125
tainted by vshoujo if you're talking about holos

>>22377258
kys

>>22377124
>138k subscribers
>8k views
Swing and a miss for that channel.

>>22377171
>No big company wide events to pull in tourists
i thought the J1 League thing is good to go now that they replaced nippleboi with the blue one?

>>22377124
Another surprise I ended up stumbling upon is this clip channel
> started as a 2 digits IRyS EN clip channel
> branched into a 3 digits, then 4 digits, then 5 digits IRyS CN clip channel
and recently took a shine to Zeta.

Interesting to see where things could be leading

>>22376945
they only have like 40 active vtubers that actually get numbers above 1k, expecting anyone but Kuzuha or a Vox event to get gold is insane

>>22377253
That might be it, might be a good change of pace, instead of ark.

>>22377305
When exactly did she move? Her April streams looks pretty much exactly like her March streams.
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCyl1z3jo3XHR1riLFKG5UAg

>>22377309
I didn't know vshojo had played it, but that shouldn't matter if holos would want to run it, preferably the jp crowd.

>>22377343
True, but the chink coof KILLED the cosplay scene.
These boys and girls in the scene LIVED their year around sewing and building their costumes for the many fairs and events along the year, and making videos of the processes and the final results in the fairs.

With the coof killing the fairs they ended up reclining hard, across the industry. The only ones that survived were the cosplay thots that had their business geared around Patreon, OnlyFans and selling physical books and merch
>like Haneame

>>22377124
Wasn't there an image floating around of chink traps cosplaying the Hololive gen 1 while playing mahjong? There seems to be some sort of Chinese cross-dressing cosplay community going on.

>>22377125
how many times can people rerelease the same open world crafting early access survival game without people noticing

>>22377642
That was a translation group that turned anti iirc

>>22377642
>Wasn't there an image floating around of chink traps cosplaying the Hololive gen 1 while playing mahjong
YUCK!

>There seems to be some sort of Chinese cross-dressing cosplay community going on.
Crossplaying is prevalent both east and west and it's as regular as cosplay can be, but those chinks
>YUCK
That was a mockery to both Hololive and cosplaying.

>>22364941
What the fuck is going on in that thread kek

>>22377817
That sounds like sucking each others dicks to mock gays but okay

>>22377975
One schizo is going crazy and has been samefagging the entire thread.

>>22377975
some people trashing hololive and replying to themselves a lot by the looks of it

>>22375893
kinda sad how she was fully redacted ngl

Every once in a while people ask in this thread
>what can a company do to enter Hololive market / displace Hololive
the answer is, more often than not
>they can't

I'll show what can a smaller company do to be sucessful in more or less an adjacent market tho, using one unrelated example.

>D4DJ First Mix OP and the meme version that came out of it
Bushiroad came out with D4DJ First Mix likely out of the success of BanG Dream!. Here is their OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wcGvZuF2AE

ABSOLUTELY GENERIC, I had to do a triple take to see if it was not made by the same people doing Princess Connect and HitoriBochi.
It could become a success in Japan but not that much in the west because it has no differential at all from any moe moe idol in the market and the OP is just that, generic and uninspired.

>ENTER THE MEMES
Here is the version that took the interwebz and became a heavy meme on Tiktok and other places, spawning countless snow clones (including a Hololive one, webm related)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChnrVwIdFhA
It quickly surpassed the original in views and will survive long after people even forget where it came from.

Any smaller company would FALL ON THEIR FUCKING FACE trying to go either the "cute girls doing cute things" (be it in the japanese market or in the north american one) because Hololive got a hold of it (just ask NijiEN girls)
Going full coomerbait wouldn't work either, because you can't compete with VShojo on the "high end" of it, or with regular actual porn thots on the low end.

But the "urban" market is severely underserved. Anons signaled the desire for an eventual StarsEN to be of
>bros to have SuperB Owl watchalongs
and that would 100% be the right path for a smaller company entering the market.
> lads and lassies following the latest north american trends, watching sports and acting like the typical north american youth, only not as retarded

Mumei and Fauna actually are moving into that market with their "you know what grind my gears" and "power ranking tier lists" streams.
If other companies won't wake up they'll see exactly that, their porridge competely eaten by a company that didn't even set to do it in the first place.

tl;dr: for the new companies the way in is stop trying to follow the lead of the leaders and start to carve a new separate path

>>22378424
>tl;dr: for the new companies the way in is stop trying to follow the lead of the leaders and start to carve a new separate path
But that's too haaaaard~!
I think just copying hololive is way easier so I'm gonna go with that!

>>22378424
As far as the EN market goes, the biggest issue is that most western vtubers basically just follow the twitch meta as their guidebook (and end up as react streamers who play games every once in a while).
I seriously think that the restrictions Hololive talents have end up forcing them to be more creative. Gura just the other day was complaining about how she can’t just have streams where she does react content.

La Laion~

Ara Ara counter at 4.2 million

>>22378786
She didn’t “complain”, she said she wants to do watchalong about nostalgia cartoon with actual frame up but that seems impossible for them. Hololive do watchalong (react content) all the time, just no visuals on screen for copyright reason.

>>22379215
(me)
But she did joke about “everyone likes reaction stream” during her latest DBD stream when she is filling the dead air while waiting for each rounds.

I hate pekora so fucking much

>>22379425
>everyone likes reaction stream
Of course they do, except of course the reaction part

>put "Hunter Hunter" up on 3/4 of the screen
>leave and go munch some snacks
>audience gets to watch anime for free and have a chatbox of like minded people

>>22379503
Ogey

>>22368732
>Korone 39k for 3rd anniversary
That seems concerningly low, 10k+ behind Okayu despite getting consistently better median than her.
Low ceiling? Had she gotten 100k+ stream before? or was she just in overlap hell then?

>>22370408
They will only create drama with twitter normies crying about certain girls ignoring the dudes and /here/ fans malding about getting cucked by those who do collab, redditors pushing to kill the "idol culture" even if they wouldn't really watch it etc. a total shitshow just to debut a bunch of dudes with shit numbers.

>>22370621
Hololive doesn't have any presence in china at this point though, nor did they ever had a strong fujo fanbase built through the JP Stars but honestly that bizzare luxiem situation show that EN Stars can absolutely steal JP Stars audience and not just from redditors.

>>22379811
Miko’s Elden Ring overlap it iirc.

>>22379811
Only 30 minutes of call-in and then 30 minutes of new hairstyle, accessory and then merch shill

>>22368732
>>22369163
Fucking fags
So which is the correct numbers?
t. Silver&Bronze tally

>>22380035
Just choose whatever you want

>>22379927
Mikorone......
Also VSaikyou was starting at that same hour, probably getting a larger share of tourists than her totsu.

>polka at the World of Warships ad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUQmIvGpd90

kek, seems like they're running the ads again

>>22380035
Top one is correct if you go by tally anon. Bottom guy probably would get bored and stopped updating within a few week imo

>g-guys the niji girls are inclining I swear
These are even homostar numbers, Astel and Roberu are getting way more for Apex

>>22371979
well that's why they try experimenting with uproar, it doesn't seem to work too well even when Yagoo is trying to personally promoting her.

>>22380182
No reason not to go with the guy who has been doing it for ages and has explained how things are done without major complaint before.

I can't tell if the other guy is a genuine seething Holofag, or just a shitposter / falseflagger.

>>22380299
>Mogged by Stars and Indog brat

> bumped from p11, but still last
sometime make a new thread