/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22365572
this makes me sick

This corpo has Pippa so no thanks.

So which thread do we reside in now? /pchex/ or /pcg/?

Lumi fits phase like a glove, but I worry Yuri won't mesh that well with the others.

>>22365572
cringe

Pippa happy, i happy

Damn they're not in a black company anymore.

So this means it's possible to do this with NijiEN and HoloEN right?

>>22365876
Luna already did it for JP.

Am I remembering things wrong? I saear Lumi said during her graduation that she would stay an indie and has no plans for another corpo.

>>22365953
>believing anything Lumi says

>>22365572
BRILLIANT!
Please tell me they go Slugma too.

>>22365953
Oh I'm sure they both had no plans to join another corp at that time. Phase must have come afterwards and hit them with a solid contract.

>>22366002
*got

>>22366015
Or they’re liars

>>22366002
slugma and fishman know each other IRL right? something about going to the same business school or something
DO EET!

>>22365572
OH NO NO NO

Remember that streaming is a business and in business profit trumps all.

>>22365736
/pcg/ is Pippa general. hex is for anyone else.

>>22366002
There are no signs pointing towards it unlike the case of Yumi where the writing was on the walls.

>>22365876
Gura come home and have real friends this time.

Why does /here/ hate Lumi again?

>>22365953
Are you new to indie scenes, in general. Anon, in every indie scene, in every field, there are always those that claim that they are 'indie4life'... until a good offer comes along.

Please anon, don't fall for it.

>>22365876
No, anycolor and cover aren't dumb enough to give away all the rights to the models.

>>22366233
something something Discord leak

>>22366233
She refused to be groomed by gosling-schizos, so they moved to megnace and sided with her in the subsequent dramas

>>22365572
Why did nobody tell me Myth was getting new outfits

Good poach fishman. Did he learn that move from Tsunderia?

What happens now that Pippa and Lumi are in the same corpo?

>>22366399
kino

>>22365572
Wait, transferring between the small corpos is a thing now? Wild.

>>22366233
Wants to be gang raped by niggers. No not even joking.

>>22365876
No. If you want to graduate from those corps, you cannot take your old models with you. I think Artia and HoloCN hoped that would be the case, but the answer was no.
Granted you can benefit from the sub boost/goodwill from fans if its an open secret what your roommate channel is. But beyond that its still up in the air how long fans would even be interested..

>>22366404
It wasn't a bona fide transfer, they were free agent. But fuck, imagine if we get mercato periods for vtubers. The /sp/ inside me is tingling.

>lumi wants to be indie guys

>>22365876
the difference is that Nijisanji and Hololive are serious business and not some cryptobro's eccentric idea

>>22366453
Coco and Spade Echo ended up getting their old mama's to make new models for them

>>22365572
This is awesome. Phase Connect was already my favorite smaller company, and now they're even better. Genuinely happy.

>Phase Invaders
Are they doing the vtuber version of the NWO angle?

>Lumi convinces Yuri to leave Cyberlive with her and go indie
>Yuri accepts because they're close friends
>Lumi then convinces Yuri to come to Phase Connect with her
>Once more, Yuri accepts because they're friends
>They join together and for a time, things are good
>But as time goes on Lumi interacts with Yuri less and less and collabs with Pippa more and more
>Eventually the Yuri and Lumi collabs stop entirely
>When Yuri streams she'll sound sad but try to laugh it off
>Will mute her mic to cry after she says something like 'Remember when Lumi and I used to do x?'
>Will spend the rest of her time in Phase as a loner
>But won't leave because she's still "friends" with Lumi

Wait so the whole leaks, drama, etc stuff was just kayfabe? Otherwise why would CyberLive allow them to keep their assets if they're going to a different corpo?

>>22366721
Put me in the screenshot

>>22366737
Cyberlive always let the streamers have the rights to their models.

>>22366737
>why would CyberLive allow them to keep their assets
Because it's in their contract.

>>22366002
It goes Phase Invaders -> Gen 2 -> Urara

>>22366737
The talents own their models as part of CyberLive's contract

>>22366737
>Otherwise why would CyberLive
Because there is this guy called government who throws hammers at you if you break business contracts. Please use your think-box more.

>>22366721
this is saddly believable

>>22366737
I dont think the leaks and drama were kayfabe. I think there was a loophole in Cyberlive's contracts that allowed the talents to keep their models if they choose to graduate.
Unsurprisingly this is a really dumb and exploitable idea, and there's probably a good reason why no serious vtuber corporation would ever allow this.

>>22366721
Yuri didn't deserve any of this...

>>22366737
Because the company is ran by some dumbass zoomer.

>>22366721
I was here

>>22365572
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK ALL THE HATERS YEEEHAWWW FUCK YOU YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>22366737
>CyberLive allow them to keep their assets if they're going to a different corpo?
Because Cyberlive is retarded and gives the best contract possible for "get your free avatar, work a bit then leave with everything Cyberlive gave you"

>>22366795
>Cyberlive always let the streamers have the rights to their models.
And now a start up will NEVER do this again because these cunts showed it doesn't work as a business model with this move. They are actually hurting vtubers and it is sad.

>>22366453
Artia and Civia were told by their CN managers that they were going to keep their models when Cover never agreed to it.

>>22366842
>I think there was a loophole in Cyberlive's contracts that allowed the talents to keep their models if they choose to graduate.
No loophole, it was explicitly marketed as a contract perk by CL.

>>22366721
Put me in the screencap when it happens

>>22366923
If that's the case then that paints an even worse picture for CL management, because anyone smart would easily choose to leave with their model and existing fanbase without needing to pay their cut to a corporation.

>>22366986
They do have to serve a minimum period before they actually own the model however.

>>22366923
The loophole was joining another company and not going indie with that model.

>>22366233
Her schizo mod or ex-mod possible bf or ex harassed others. That's the strongest anti-Lumi argument. The rest is petty woman moment bs from M

>>22366233
Schizo mod/boyfriend

PHASE IS KING CYBER CAN EAT DUNG

>>22366469
Free Agent for less than 20 days. Wouldn't be surprised if this was all planned out from the start and Fish told them to pretend to be Indies for a few weeks.

>>22366002
Given the way she resigned I seriously hope that's not happening, it'd be a massive dick move both to her fans and to Tsunderia's other talents to just abandon them for another company with absolutely no notice or explanation

>>22366721
This but Pippa X Yuri with Lumi being the cuck

I know everyone always refers to vtubing with phrases like kayfabe but I never thought I'd see some small indies create their own NWO storyline

OH NONONO CYBERKEKS

>>22367077
To add to this, the shit he did was all pre-modding, and he stepped down the instant shit got proven in the threads. Menaceschizos will claim he is still doing shit to fuck with her, but that's coming from menaceschizos so take everything they say with a metric fuckton of salt.

why hop from a small corpo to a small corpo, though? surely she would be better off financially as an indie? i don't believe anybody would want to collab with pippa of all people that badly...

>>22367152
>to Tsunderia's other talents to just abandon them for another company with absolutely no notice or explanation
The Tsunderia talents would know

>This wasn't an easy decision, and I'm sure I'll answer more questions down the road when the time comes, but all my reasons for going indie remain the same. I just want to clear that up, and have everyone know that this came after my decision to go indie.
>I also want to preface this that all decisions I have made up to this point are my decisions alone.
t. Yuri

>>22367301
I think Phase gives its talents new computers and set ups.

>>22367301
>why hop from a small corpo to a small corpo, though?
Ask Miori

>>22367355
It's hilarious how all three inclined like hell after leaving MyHolo

>>22367301
They can grow under a brand better than as an indie, and they see Phase Connect has lots of potential.

>>22367301
You can leech viewers from the rest of the brand before moving on.

>>22367301
Phase is growing and has cooler people. Cyber is stagnating and filled with bitches.

>>22367337
The rrat must have hit a little close to home

Is PC gen 2 all 'poaches'?

>>22366002
So rumour about her being HoloEN new manager is a rrat?

I'm so confused

>>22367301
Brand recognition and Fishman actually has any idea how to run a company.

>>22366912
any non-retard already knew this was a bad model.

>>22367611
post the nigger edit

>>22367336
both Lumi and Yuri already received huge upgrades in CyberLive, Lumi got her 3080 PC pressumably from the CEO himself.

Do the people here not get how entertainment works?
Of course the talent will jump ship to a more promising corp if the current one sucks, vtubing is just hollywood except stuck in the past a couple decades.

>>22367514
Nobody knows.
I hope Slugma is at least smart enough to aim for a corp like HoloEN or NijiEN, Phase isn't a massive jump compared to Tsunderia.

>>22367737
It is if they actually pay her.

>>22367699
I think people are more caught off guard because at this small level deciding to become a part of a second company when you've already reaped the benefits of a free model and a good install base that one would give you seems nonsensical. You're giving up a good chunk of your pay (which isn't anything compared to what niji/holo makes obviously) for what? A manager that if you had some common sense you wouldn't really need?

>>22367510
Lumi and Yuri confirmed, Shirara rumoured. Not all, but quite a lot of them are.

Wonder what her phase contract has in place to prevent her from jumping ship again.
Will she get the Suisei treatment, she retains ownership of the Lumi character but Phase will own the actual model they commission for her.

Thread theme:
https://youtu.be/RuttpDbT_Zw

>>22367864
Pretty sure money wasn't Lumi's primary motivation at all and the corpo cut only really hurts if you already make loads of money anyway.
Plus she already knew Pippa and maybe just didn't feel like doing the indie grind.

>>22367976
>Lumi and ASS
They should try and get Kiki as well if they are planning to collect every schizo menhera related to here

>>22368062
no one seethes this much about kiki, other than one certain goober...

>>22367976
Really fucking hope Shirara is not actually in the lineup

>>22367416
Maybe not Manaka since she is kind of a 2view. She does seem really happy where she is though so who am I to judge.

>>22368174
Why not? It fits with the company being a whore and all that.

>>22368011
Making a new model would be retarded

>>22368174
She would fit in perfectly with the Phase Cucked model

Why the fuck Phase has 2 generals?

>>22368365
The other one is for people tired of Pippa's fanbase.

>>22367737
Phase can be an improvement if:
* She has to manage less members
* Is actually well paid
* Needs to use less time working on PC stuff
Any of those 3 are improvements, management wise it doesn't matter much how big the corpo is unless she streams or proves herself to be invaluable, PC may not seem an improvement at a glance but we don't know how they are handled internally beyond rrats, if QoL is overall in improvement it doesn't matter if the biggest talent hasn't even reached 50k subs

>>22368185
She's solidly a 3 digit chuuba these days, not /lig/ tier but also not a 2view.

>>22368365
/pcg/ is pippa concern general

I don't watch 2views but this looks interesting, any qrd on this? Did these two betray their company to join another one?

>>22368600
> Did these two betray their company to join another one?
Yes
And the company they dropped let them go with model and everything
Fish Man just got 2 girls and doesn't even have to give them models, they were gently gifted by another corpo

>>22368600
>betray
They fulfilled all their contractual obligations, it's not really their fault that the contract was a bit too generous.

>>22368600
Something like that. They graduated from their old company recently (and one of them just got a new model paid by them a month ago)

>>22368742
Lumi cancelled all her Cyberlive branded merch instead of having it fulfilled. Weird.

>>22368600
>betray
No, one was bullied off it and the other one was against the bullying.

well that means lumi's model goes to /pcg/ team in the divegrass cup

>>22365736
>>22366161
Pchex is just a bunch of schizos.

>>22368886
You mean the bully and the bullied ran off together.

>>22368600
>be top earner
>management and talent shit talk her due to jealousy in secret group chats as leaked
>she finds out about it from friends DMing her
>she decides to quit

So no she didnt betray anyone, they betrayed her first.

>>22368855
Was that before or after she set the CL headquarters on fire?

>>22368999
Are you going to apply for mod now that you aren't blacklisted Sei?

>>22365736
Go to your Twitter profile and if you see your pronouns there then go directly to /pchex/

>>22368999
t. didn't even read the DMs

>>22368896
I hope someone can make a proper model instead of this bootleg Iowa.

Phase Invaders is fishman's indie and small corpo poaching unit and Slugma is running it in the shadows, your 2view oshi IS NOT SAFE from the fish.

>>22368600
timeline
>july 2021, cyberlive debuts
>cyberlive markets itself as the company which grants their talents the most freedom, including ownership of assets and model
>kaneko lumi becomes the company's most successful vtuber within 2 months
>amaris yuri is doing fine too
>november 2021, gen2 drops
>three of them quickly outgrow the entirety of gen1, but pretty much all of them have moved to twitch so it's hard to compare
>december 2021/january 2022, kaneko lumi becomes the company's manager
>late february 2022, misaki sato, their main manager, is officially fired; turns out that lumi was forced to take her role because of misaki's inactivity
>march 2022, amaris yuri and kaneko lumi announce that they're leaving cyberlive by march 31st
>early april 2022, huge leak of cyberlive, culprit still unknown; internal drama, gossips, the manager siding with talents insulting their senpai, also new outfit leaks
>last week, many hints at them joining phase are dropped
>today, it's officially revealed that they've been pouched by phase connect, a small corpo of similar scale, or at least used to because now i guess it makes them much bigger and better
both the cat and the star have weird things in their schedules on friday, tune in if you want to check them out, it's probaby redebut or something

i watched lumi and she seems like the type of girl to stream naked or while masturbating. for that i say based. dont really care about this corpo shit, money is only thing that matters in this world anyways so can you blame them.

>>22368707
That's funny. Cyberlive was created by some guy on reddit who was complaining about corpos not offering fair contracts for their chuubas, and someone provoked him into proving that he could do it better. He made the contracts too generous and got fucked over.

>>22365953
She lied.

>>22367164
This but me x Pippa and both get cucked

>>22366002
Slugma dick.

>>22369208
I rather not have my oshi join a company infested with kiwifags, schizo vtubers and their groomer doxxfaggot mods/boyfriends, thanks.

>>22369309
I guess we're dropping the s from sbeve

>>22365953
She didn't even fulfill her subathon goals

>>22369301
>>22368707
Tough lesson about how the real world works.

>>22366015
>Oh I'm sure they both had no plans to join another corp at that time
Yeah no, they were planning this for a month already atleast. they just lied

>>22369464
Shut up and keep spending, paypig.

>>22367301
Pippa told fishman she wanted to do like a talk show with them, but fishman said to try to di more with PC talent first. So Pippa used her skills in cult recruitment to get them into PC.
Sasuga, Pippa dono

>>22369301
That's a different corpo you idiot, an even more nonamed one that nobody cares about.

>>22369301
You're thinking of 4vlive

>>22368855
Wow, talk about a rrat. Misaki, CL's old head manager, was supposed to follow up with the manufacturer for ALL CYBERLIVE MERCH and she failed to do so. Almost all merch was canceled, not just Lumi's. In fact, I think Lumi's acrylic stand was the only one still going out for her. I bought pieces of all 4 merch drops and they were all cancelled; I'm still waiting for my refund after filling out the form that Vera put up.

>it's Cyberlife poaching season
Iekushi Chapipi, Utano Pandora.
Come home, we can find an use for an opera singer newbie voice actress and a broken british girl stranded in japan after failing to make it as Idol, you are already a better singer than Kiara anyways

>>22365572
So they were never going indie? They just took the models and joined a rival company?

>>22369767
Good luck saving them Yagoo.

>>22369767
Unironically support this. I've always pushed the holopanda train, and chippers seems like a good get for any poacher

>>22365572
Which holoEN will Phase Connect poach? They're unstoppable at this point.

>>22368999
>management and talent shit talk her due to jealousy in secret group chats as leaked
That leak was post the decision to leave, ergo it cannot have been the cause.

>>22369983
Sana

>>22369083
I don't know how you can set fire to something that's mostly ash at this point

>>22369884
>>22369767
Hololive doesn't need more fucking Australians.

>>22369815
Yes, going indie was a lie.

>>22366721
I suspect this may be the case as well. Also, hi mom, i made it into a /i was there/ thread please be proud of me now

>>22369991
if you read the leak they said they've been doing it for a long time now for months.

So it is 100% the cause.

>>22369696
But that's just it. If Lumi wanted her fans to get the merch they paid for then they would just fulfill it late and apologize.
The merch for other girls that was cancelled was time sensitive while Lumi cancelled even generic stuff. And yes, Misaki didn't order it, but Lumi not later ordering what the fans paid for while planning to jump ship poses the question: Does she not want her fans to have merch of her? Or does she not want her fans to have merch of her from Cyberlive?

>>22369991
You think gossip like this is just random and hasn't been going on for months?

>>22370027
Chapipi is indonesian expat in the Netherlands
Pandora is british living in japan

>>22369767
NO YAGOO, DON'T, THEY ARE MENHERAS, WORSE THAN RUSHIA

>>22370027
50% of the Australians have been great.
67% if we include chammers, who's been the only one to say the aussie word on stream anyway.

don't mind me, just havin a laff
https://www.cyberlivecorp.com/

Lumi proved her autism to me in the vermintide stream. The fact she acknowledged how the voice she uses makes everyone think she’s some kind of (in her words) “alpha bitch” was reassuring. I trust her.

>>22370090
She was already in the process of going indie by the time Misaki's fuckup with the merch was uncovered, so refunds were the only sensible option.

>>22370178
If you've ever VC'd with her in lumicord you'd know she's just a brat and occasionally lonely or menhera. 90% of her time in VC is actually just sitting quietly watching shows or viewers stream games while we chat up a storm.

Is this the new Pippa thread?

I know Lumi is close with Pippa but this move seems questionable for the other girl. I guess she knew that she might not make it as an indie so following behind Lumi was the best choice? Has she collabed with Phase in the past?

>>22366326
>She refused to be groomed by gosling-schizos
explain her mod sei

>>22370541
Legendary Postal watchalong. She got along fine, just a bit shy. I unironically think Yuri will get along with Phase better than everyone thinks.

Vshojo is next.

Once again Prism and Kawaii keep their hands clean of their menhera competitors.

>>22367700
Pretty sure Lumi paid for her PC. Just larp.

>>22369767
I will take Enma, Menance and Inori.
Three cock slaves for a Niji male wave and they already play the part.

>>22370583
Not a mod anymore, hasn't been since the yab. Honestly any schizos still pushing this rrat are coping hard since no way phase would just let this guy be a full mod in all their servers now.

>>22370541
Yuri's been pulling a similar average CCV to Lumi with recent streams. She would have made it just fine as an indie, but says she would prefer to be a corpo VTuber. She was just shy during the Postal collab.

They were basically already in Phase Connect. I can't wait for more collabs. A taste of what's to come:

https://youtu.be/t9AtR8zau5A?t=37

What the fuck?

>>22370915
>hey guys
>guys
>guys
>I am /here/
>guys
>I said I am /here/

just so I'm sure, hylo was the one that thought up the discord date shit right?

>>22370954
Feels like an all out war, huh?

>>22370853
t. Sei

>>22371019
Is there a problem? Or do you just feel like being upset?

>>22371048
It's funny how many times I've been accused of being him. lol lmao

>>22371041
Hylo is ngmi tier a anyways.
Always was and still is as indie

>>22366912
If it wasn’t them someone else would. Such a favorable contract was always going to be abused and exploited.

>>22371103
if you're his friend or lumi then you shouldn't be amazed

Anyone know the new name that guy goes by these days? Trying to keep track of him when he shows up in the phase connect server.

>>22371184
I haven't been called a slur for black people yet so I'm definitely not spoiler

>>22371262
it was Melancholic/Miel in Lumicord, but possibly he's changing once again.

>>22366404
>>22366469
Soon chuubas will be like football transfer market.

>>22365572
KEK just a fair reminder to never trust women. They will take till there's nothing left and then move on to the next person to start the process all over again.

>>22371328
nigger

>>22371262
Melancholic or Miel. He will make a new account soon.

>>22371353
>>22371378
Thanks anons I was having trouble remembering.

>>22370541
>Has she collabed with Phase in the past?
>>22370660 also /pcclg/ Phasmo collab.

>>22367307
>The Tsunderia talents would know
Evidently most of them didn't

>>22371041
Yes.

QRD on Menace?

>>22371437
The archives have you covered.

>>22371437
She is the cause of everything bad all the time no matter what.

>>22371041
Just because Hylo thought of it doesn't absolve Lumi and Yuri from being whores.

>>22371437
Pippa+Kiki

>>22371487
Considering that both Lumi and Yuri backed out of some of the rewards before debut, suggests that they were uncomfortable with it.

>>22371437
Leaked the contents of a collab discord to get Kiki into shit and frame Sei for the leak, all the while /pyon/ can't stop coping and claims she merely faked the logs.

>>22365572
now this is disgusting lmao
they didn't even change models

>>22371437
A /wvt/ chuuba known for being a whore and a backstabber. Expect to hear good things about her soon.

>>22371575
Are there more leaks on her coming?

>>22367355
Goes to show how big of a debuff bad management can be

>>22371534
Who do you think came up with the rewards? Each talent came up with their own rewards, they changed them because they saw the backlash.

>>22371646
Its always been known that Hylo came up with them.

>>22365572
After all that they just reincarnate into another 2-bit outfit? Kind of anticlimactic. I suppose this would be more common if people could just fuck off with their models like in Cyberlive.

>>22371646
if you checked the picture that gets reposted often, Lumi has no mentions of dates in hers whereas there's one for Yuri and Hylo.

>>22371787
It's not a reincarnation if they're still themselves.

>>22371563
why would they? even suisei didn't initially.

>>22366547
It's a gamble, you could get lucky but they aren't obligated to support you once you leave the original company, as Kana found out.

>>22369767
>Utano Pandora joining EN3
Chances of this happening are high, if she graduates

>>22366912
It's a stupid business model, everyone already knew that before this happened. There's a reason no one else did it.

If Yuri doesn't get along with Phase she can just Collab with Tsunderia or Prism since they appear to be allies considering they Collab the most

>>22371883
It helps that you aren't a bridge burning menhera

>>22371721
Hylo came up with the idea of donation rewards.
Each talents rewards are different so it's clear they set them by themselves.
>>22371845
>Private hangout with Lumi in our official Discord

>>22371955
What kind of qualifications does she have?

>>22366721
DYRBI

>>22372009
The Kiara backstory

>>22365572
they trusted her too much? What if she spilled the bean or blackmailing them later?

>>22372009
>can sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOaneCkGOoE
>knows Japanese
>actually lives in Japan with a solid visa unlike Kiara
She has some things going for her but I wouldn't delude myself to believe she can defeat nepotism and numbers.

>>22365736
/pcocta/ now

>not firing Pippa
>getting even more 4chan /here/ people
The CEO really is a retard

If Phase doesn't start inclining this is just a waste of time.

>>22372009
>good at singing, strong focus on music, even 2 covers per month, already has a decent original
>started as an indie
>afaik failed idol background or at least VERY into that
>great at zatsu
>niche games, including RCT2, ETS or Total Wars
>fluent in japanese
>already lives in Japan and has a working visa
This would be the cheapest and best poach Hololive could ever think of. Basically british Kiara.
if Cover was to find out about the leaks, however...

>>22372158
Pandora is a subpar singer, I can name at least 10 better singers among phase/tsunderia/prism/myholotv/cyberlive

>>22367514
Any explanation for her resigning is a rrat.

>>22372223
After seeing the leaks on hololive talents what Pandora did is child's play

>>22372274
>After seeing the leaks on hololive talents
spoonfeed onegai

>>22367416
Its more hilarious that they managed to get an entire gen of such talents... and lose them

>>22372009
>knows japanese
>lives in Japan
>idolfag
>holofag
>can sing
>can dance
>practice dance
>practice sing
>produce covers
>made an original song already
>numberfag

>>22372318
same is happening to cyberlive right now lmao

>>22372207
Pippa was his first talent hire, he sees something in the rabbit.

>>22372208
It already is, just doesn't have the explosive growth anons become used to with the big two corpos.

>>22367355
who is umio now?

>>22372208
Phase is unironically on its' road to become the best startup, possibly joining the holy trinity of small corpos or even besting them

>>22372207
>>not firing Pippa
Why would he fire one of the biggest talents in the small corpo scene?

>>22372158
Numbers matter but the pool of freelance content creators with significant past success that want to be vtuber is pretty much dried up. The fact the EN3 will probably debut in the summer and we don't have even a single solid guess as to who will join kind of rules out their being anyone obvious. As far as networking goes, most Holos are either loners, have friends that are too successful on their own to bother with, or don't have enough pull to get their friends in anyway. Or like Miori, they wouldn't be a good fit.

>>22372422
Moonjelly0 on twitch.

>>22372422
MoonJelly, she returned to being her original since MyHolo didn't allowed her to join as Jelly

>>22372300
Literally nothing.

>>22365572
Lol this is kinda like an NBA Player Trade.
Jumping from one ship to another

>>22372003
>rewards are different
>$400 private hangout in the discord
>$400 private hangout in the discord
>$400 private hangout in the discord
Yeah, they used slightly different phrasing at some points. No way they copied each others homework.

>>22371437
Menace got blacklisted because she was framed by an admitted schizo doxxer who engages in ageplay erp with Lumi.
Yes, really.

>>22366721
You monster.

>>22372523
More like unrestricted free agency.

>>22371563
Why would they not use their own models?

>>22372207
>Pippa I know you get 2-400, sometimes more, viewers when streaming live on Youtube which is a feat in itself, but several people on a mongolian basket weaving forum are upset at your existence so we have to fire you

>>22367416
>all three inclined
MoonJelly did not inclined for shit, she just kept her fanbase but growth almost nothing.
She threat vtubing like an hobby now though
Miori and obviously Bae inclined

>>22372300
Kiara was an actual escort not just an erotic cosplayer
Ame is a libertarian and is actually the daughter of one of the board for the libertarian party, she has a famous freakout in new york
Mori lied about being an underground rapper, shes never been in a real rap battle and only lived on SoundCloud

>>22372223
She played one of Total Wars?

>>22372733
Shogun 2

>>22372635
Ya I have not seen MoonJelly do anything, she has become what most vtubers not in the 2 big corpos have, hobbyists

>>22366404
>>22366469
who will be the Bossman of vtubers

>>22368431
Do they talk about her twitch persona in the pippa general?

>>22372633
my rrat is that Kevin is keeping her around only because of said numbers. She's the Miori of Phase, carrying the whole company on her back so they're turning a blind eye on the spicy stuff. She'd get fired right this fucking second if someone was to beat her.

>>22365572
But will she move back to youtube?

>>22372635
Moon jelly has gotten above 100 ccv and twitch partner which successfully selling all her merch despite doing vtubing as a hobby and part time, streaming less than anyone else. She's busy with IRL college and commissions for music too and she doesnt even need to be a vtuber for her future but only stayed as one because she liked talking to people.

>>22372003
>exactly these 3 left the company

>>22367514
>tfw the actual /wvt/ chuuba who made it into hololive was was Urara all along

/hlgg/'s dream succeded where it least expected it

>>22372841
You wish

>>22372725
These are retarded. Kiara's is just /cgl/ slander with no proof. Ame can barely read, she could never do that for a living. And Mori has never said she did "rap battles" or has ever talked about them. She's done small underground shows and there's videos of her...doing small underground shows.

>>22372841
Not true, she still got away with stuff like this when she was >100.

>>22372841
>She's the Miori of Phase, carrying the whole company on her back
Pippa has a long fucking way to go before you can even consider comparing her to Miori
All the people in phase do

>>22372926
>Pippa consistently over 500 CCV and inclining
Cope

>>22371551
On all honestly, this narrative seems to be pushed hard by kiki and /pyon/ because she wants to be the center of the story.

You would be surprised how little anyone cares about that 2view. A more plausible explanation is that she was collateral damage to expose Sei, but good luck conving her of that.
To begin with Bea actually shat on kiki openly and she also was in that discord, she is the most likely suspect, it's just that it is easier to blame Meg because Sei already hated her.

>>22372993
Go back to /pcg/

>>22371437
Menace got upset that Lumi still kept his doxxfaggot schizo mod around under a new name after he was sacked so he started leaking screenshots and spreading rrats that would make her look bad. This same mod used to do "trainer-mesugaki" play with Lumi in the past with him being her "owner", whatever that means

>>22372733
https://twitter.com/UtanoPandora/status/1435986352458268673

>>22373011
>Bea
>wanting to fuel drama
>ever
lol

>>22372926
>Pippa has a long fucking way to go before you can even consider comparing her to Miori
Pippa has higher average CCV on her streams these days.
Miori is still doing a lot better on all the other numbers not sure about donations and merch, but CCV is a pretty important stat. Most of Miori's subs are just from her spamming lewd shorts and those people don't really seem to watch her regular content.

>>22373152
Playtime or gtfo

>>22373164
Stop trusting people you don't actually know.

>>22373011
Everyone in that discord is still friends with Lumi, but not Menace. Really makes you wonder.

>>22372733
Not on stream but her Steam library is full of them.

>>22373198
>kiki
>friends with lumi

>>22373164
you seem to be lacking critical information

>>22373274
i wounder how yah feel about this?
still coping saying shes a tsundere probably

>>22373196
Her personality is not giving a single shit about anything, she barely even cares about her own fanbase if at all.

>>22373274
That's inside the server, in a private environment, in a direct assessment of Kiki.

>>22365572
How will this impact Cyberlive's reputation in the small corpo community?

>>22373299
dads have seen worse from Bea directly
/yah/ is a wild ride

will kiki ever be liked /here/?

>>22373168
>https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCyKsg-57XC9pyHbP7v3kCPQ
>https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCJ46YTYBQVXsfsp8-HryoUA
Their average CCV is pretty much the same, but Miori has far bigger peak in her last 15 streams. And they are not even comparable in terms of subs, SCs, and VOD views.

>>22373303
>Her personality
You don't know her personality.

>>22365572
How will this impact Phase Connect's reputation in the small corpo community?

>>22373152
Well, I was hoping for a vod but that's still based.

>>22373274
>here's everything that's wrong with you
>I haven't checked your content itself in detail, I've only read multiple summaries

>>22373422
Yeah antis summaries too KEK

>>22373303
>That's inside the server, in a private environment, in a direct assessment of Kiki.

there is no such a thing as a private environment and I wish retarded vtubers stop believing that , even Nijis fuck up. Rushia died for nothing.

>>22373328
Blacklisted

>>22373274
Aren't Bea and Kiki fighting for the same audience to begin with?

Very cool, Sakana. Can you pick up Lisa next?

God that’s embarrassing.

>>22373494
GFE enjoyers? no
retarded racists? yes

>>22373450
Rushia died to prove to her fans that she wasn't dating.

>>22373342
Never cared about her but seeing how she's such an easy target for schizos and she keep giving them attention like a retard, probably no

>>22373274
100% agree with what she said aboit distancing herself.

>>22373405
>How will this impact Phase Connect's reputation in the small corpo community?

you cant get blacklisted for fucking over a company that was already blacklisted

>>22373543
Shes gotten very good at ignoring it

it's all apart of his plan, phase connect WILL be the next big thing. chinese blood money will ensure it

>>22373168
>Most of Miori's subs are just from her spamming lewd shorts
This is an unfair misconception, all of her most successful shorts that actually propelled her growth have been the musical ones (which is reflected whenever she does karaoke streams and her CCV skyrockets). The lewd shorts are a drop in the ocean in comparison.

>>22373520
I will sub to the first vtuber that knows how this button works

>>22373619
get ready to sub to my channel (nonexistant)

>>22366399
Sex

>>22373555
Not really the important part, the important part is that a person who shows hostility openly is already more likely to relate against kiki than meg who is also a GFE. There is little point screwing over "your competition" when the real inner fight is GFE vtubers vs Non GFE vtubers, which is why Lumi and Menace ended up disliking each other.
Kiki and Sei were just throwing darts in the darkness and they will never figure out who really did it. They picked up a fight against Menace and she retaliated by denouncing Sei (and Lumi) to everyone who listened.
This seems to me the logical chain of events, or at least more logical than the mainstream rrat.

Traitorous Whores

>>22373858
keep seething menace

>>22371437
> QRD on Menace?
She’s a menace

>>22373619
NTA but Streamer Mode still shows message notifications unless you explicitly disable them. Nice fucking program Discord.

>>22372504
>threw away a godly design for a googly eyed baby
What a shame but i guess it had to be done.

>>22372866
>The person that understood corpo MO better than 99% of /vt/, let alone /wvt/, is the /wvt/ chuuba who made it into Hololive.
Extremely small if true, honestly. The least surprising twist of 2022.

>>22366721
Lumi, I know you're /here/... please don't do this...

>>22370853

>>22366917
Yes, they were bamboozled

What is the logic behind this decision

>>22365572
this is beyond retarded

>>22366721
this won't happen.

>>22374195
Small corpos still offer networking and promotion. The only questionable thing is why they bothered to lie about it so brazenly.

>>22373561
I don't think PhaseConnect will get any direct backlash from this specifically, but I'm concerned that this might be the event that sends the small corpo scene off of the slippery slope and makes attempting to poach talents a common practice.

>>22374195
being corpo is better than being indie simple as

>>22374195
Fishman had the opportunity to take up two good talents, and the talents had the opportunity to go back to the corpo world, but have a company that isn't royally buttfucking their ass 24/7. Seems like a win-win for both Phase and Lumi/Yuri.

>>22374359
poaching talents is just fine

>>22374195
Hiring new talents actually takes work and effort that doesn’t exist at Phaseconnect.

>>22373168
miori is litteraly coomerbait. proportion of viewer activity speaking pippa is MUCH higher. it's not even a close comparison.

>>22374318
I've seen this happen before in other businesses
>Be in corporation that you're sick of
>Start shopping for new job.
>Get a couple good offers.
>Have a bad week or something and decide that you're quitting your current job before you get a new job
>You've got savings, you'll manage.
>If it doesn't pan out you can always go freelance.
>Interview/Confirmation process moves at the speed of corpo.
>You end up going a couple of weeks without a job, but you're confirmed internally almost immediately after you quit the old job.
>Paperwork and training means you end up without a job or relying on freelance for a few weeks to a month.
>NDAs mean you can't talk about it.

>>22374195
>>22374318
"xdxdxdxd get cucked we funny LOL NTR'd xd" maybe.

>>22365876
CVME HVME PVMV

>>22374195
Some people just want to see threads burn

>>22374491
Other than the 13 new ones they've hired in total?

>>22374567
Pomu fucked the faggot with feesh. No one wants her or her dead dying channel.

>>22366721
praying for this

>>22374668
Go back to getting gangbanged (but actually) Nina

>>22366912
another new agency has clause that lets graduates keep their model and identity if they leave on good terms

>Nina said last week that she's considering joining a corpo
You know what you have to do fishman.

>>22374826
She could easily get into one of NijiHolo, why waste time with PhaCo

>>22374826
If Nina went to any of the small corpos it'd definitely be Tsunderia

>>22374879
NijiHolo will make her get a new model, which will unquestionably be a downgrade to her current model. A smaller corpo is more likely to let her in with her current persona.

>>22374918
Tsunderia is dead in the water without slugma.

>>22374922
Her model is pretty bland, what the fuck do you mean?

>>22366912
>>22367641
>>22371167
>>22371959
>>22374804
Phase Connect has an avatar and copyright buyout option in their contract, I think one of the girls mention it comes with a noncompete clause, basically they can't join another corpo with it right away.
Fishman knows how to not fuck himself apparently.

>>22374879
Holy fuck this is actually going to happen

>>22374985
There's nothing wrong with having an option, it's giving the talent5s absolute rights to the entire thing.

>>22374922
Do you retards ACTUALLY think indies/small corpos care if they’d actually get accepted to Niji or Hololive? Seriously?
Yea believe whatever they fuck they spew to you but when they get that email they don’t give a shit how much of a downgrade the models will be

>>22366815
Koopa?

>>22374985
>noncompete clause
I'm willing to bet that Cyberlive also had such a clause, but waived it due to "circumstances". Depending on how much of a rrat peddler you are, you could even say that the two going indie was part of a ploy to force Cyberlive to internally acknowledge the issues and try to smooth things over before lawyers got involved.

>>22375099
I don't believe any of that crap.
I believe that it is an inconvenience to have to rely on shitposters on one of the most retarded boards on 4chan to get the word out that you have a new body in a major corpo. PL shit is frowned upon pretty much everywhere else.
There are many that would consider branding to not be worth having to basically start over with a new community. It's not logical or business-minded, but those people do exist.

>>22366721
PLACE MY EXISTENCE IN THE PERMANENT SCREENGRAB

I'm always fascinated by the world of these western "agencies". I refuse to believe they are real businesses. At least COVER and ANYCOLOR can prove they are proper tech companies at the end of the day.

Whenever I read shit about Phase Connect or Tsunderia or "Kawaii" (? lol) it looks and sounds like some glorified LARP by random Twitch girls

Who's going to groom pippa?

>>22375566
Sei will add her to his harem.

>>22375479
>Whenever I read shit about Phase Connect or Tsunderia or "Kawaii" (? lol) it looks and sounds like some glorified LARP by random Twitch girls
My Exact Same Thoughts

>>22375479
>At least COVER and ANYCOLOR can prove they are proper tech companies at the end of the day.
Why would the western agencies need to prove that they are proper tech companies when they are literally not tech companies?

>>22375479
They are all invariably pet projects for cryptobros with money to burn.

>>22375602
good luck getting passed zoidberg, the dog, and i think there was another?

>>22375479
PC owner and cofounder sold a tech startup for something like 16 million before making the company and are personally invested into it.
Within their first several months they already started breaking even, some entertainment and tech companies take literal years before that happens and others only survive on investing before they die.

PC is actually doing well and talent is inclining.

>>22374826
What a waste, she's not my style of chuuba but anyone can see she's above the level of Holo/Niji with how boring and hard to follow they've become respectively. If she genuinely enjoys vtubing I hope she remains indie.

>>22375479
I mean basically no one takes these companies seriously.

>>22374195
Poaching is actually hype

Menace's side is the right one. Who would ever really want to trust Lumi and Yuri after this? Sakana is stupid and thinking with his dick and not his brain. If they're willing to pump and dump Cyberlive(though, of course, Misaki's ass definitely deserved it) why not Phase too?

Not to mention how Lumi managed to earn the ire of everyone despite being a perfect saint who can do no wrong(lol)

Sakana must be actually delusional.

>>22371970
Yuri/Meru collab would be too cute. It would explode the hearts of all who watch

>>22376609
Sorry menace this isn’t going work.

So why didn’t Hylo join?

>>22376785
Nobody likes her lmao

>>22374826
Fuck NijiEN, I'm becoming a full PhaseCuck if this happens

>>22376804
Good point

>>22376785
Loose tongue, she will roommate-post your oshi if she gets hold of the info

>>22376804
>>22376785
Dude, she left Cyberlive in the first place because she didn't want to be a team player or do anything for anyone else on any terms other than her own clout-chasing, amogus addicted whims. It's not like Lumi's case where she magically "got bullied" despite being a peerless, perfect angel who has never done anything bad in her entire life.

>>22376936
Did that actually happen?

>>22376976
she leaked all of gen 2s past lives outside the company

>>22375687
Not what I meant. COVER/ANYCOLOR are proper companies in general, that's all. They have real projects in their portfolio, staffed offices, physical and online infrastructure.

These others, apart from the whole digital marketting shibboleth of "online experiences", scream that they are just one or two discord mods pretending to be a manager or whatever

>>22374359
The only direct bond I can see is that it makes Lisa's life more difficult. She has history with Lumi and has been getting closer to Pippa, but she's also friends with Malice and Pandora. I'm sure she isn't the only one with ties to both CL and PC, so I expect things to be tense until the dust settles

>>22377049
Source: I saw it in a dream.

>>22374972
Ami is currently live talking about weird FMV games that are older than the average age of a VTuber viewer and has over 130 listed views (actual views probably closer to 250). They'll be fine

>>22375158
Hammer Bros