/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22285257
retard, finana did two tweets to fubuki. finana is a holofag ffs, she's happy as fuck lol

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>22285257
What do you mean?

I was dumpster diving the last few threads. There were some people trying to prop up sub gains for NijiEN despite them also saying that subs didn't matter weeks ago.
What changed?

>>22285409
Niji has so far been taking a beating this month. It's just the normal desperation taking hold.

slow night. who are >we watchin?

>>22285409
Change? That's typical behavior

>>22285657
I'm spending the night unsubscribing from Fubuki and Polka and youtube and unfollowing them on twitter.

>>22285657
Saku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PAWj4HLazM

>>22285409
It's amazing that the arguments for Hololive and Nijisanji have switched over the past few weeks.
Hololive is now "merch, live shows and branching out of vtubing space". On the other hand, Nijisanji is now "subs and SCs"

>>22285657
Polka's utawaku

>Polka is singing right now
I always go out of my way to watch Polka's singing streams but I just can't tonight. Not after she betrayed the Hololive fanbase. It hurts.

>>22285657
Pizza dad playing splatoon 2 octo expansion

>>22285923
it's ironic when I remember discussions from years ago, literally the contrary arguments from each side

>>22285751
>>22285986
kys samefag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZuNXZ-1Y7c
Expectations for Haachama's holomember harem building stream?

>>22285657
I'm spending the night unsubscribing from pomu and elira youtube channel and unfollowing them on twitter.

>>22286040
Don't care, Haachama should've offed herself back during her schizo arc

>>22286040
Is this some kind of zatsudan stream?

>>22285407
Don't believe anything coming from Nijiniggers if they don't provide citation or timestamps, these asshat always on hallucinating drugs.

Polka is the biggest unityfag out there
She was the first JP holo outside of Coco to mention Vshojo. Why are people surprised that she would watch NijiENs?

>>22286180
Because they disrespected her co-workers and she shouldn't be supporting people like that.

>>22286180
It's one falseflag nijikek samefagging, no one else cares.

>>22283031
Welp.

>>22286180
Nijiniggers falseflagging as Holofags are not surprisingly either.

>>22285751
Are you a spastic who has difficulty controlling your mouse? How could that take all night?

>>22284793
if you think that's bad, imagine being an indie

>>22286242
>if I repeat the same thing every other day for months on end it will suddenly become an interesting topic

>>22285657
Hayun and Akina playing apex together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwJt0V2q81U

>>22285272
>>22285404
Who is that?

>>22286341
As long as people still argue that Gura's CCV isn't fucked it's still worth contributing evidence.

>>22286242
doesn't gura just have more people who watch vods instead of live? She has more subs and there are more casual watchers of anglo youtube than jp youtube

>>22286242
yes, we get it, gura is better than peko, can you shut up already

Holobros, how do we stop the inevitable king gold today?

>>22285657
Watching fuma right now, Mang he still keeps the way he is in game-bu is too much for a old fag like me.
https://youtu.be/NnLda-NurwA

>>22286161
I'm sure its nijiniggers saying that when finana replied to fubuki and she quote retweeted her when she ended stream

>>22286419
Dude, it's been two hours, post processing hasn't even finished yet.

>>22286420
Read the filename.

>>22286401
>evidence
of what, that the metric you want gura to also win is useless at the same time?

>>22286431
report kuzuha channel

>>22286367
If Akina was a holo someone would probably shitpost about his including a manji on the thumbnail.

>>22286469
>Read the filename.
this is not any better than palm reading and no amount of made up bullshit math with guesses will give you a formula that correlates vods to ccv

>>22286513
No, no, he deserves this one. His team has been playing phenomenonally well this time around, and I think stands a good chance of winning the tourney.

Used to follow Fubuki. I tolerated the homo contents and avoid them, but she's been pushing garbage shit lately, and this is pushing too much.
I don't dislike her, but I no longer care about her either.
I mean there's a reason why her SC is shit tier, and she needs to do ASMR to whistle at her fans for money.
I don't follow Polka, so I don't care much about what she does.

>>22286591
I'm just being sarcastic. Kuzuha is cool in my book

>>22286477
Literally no one said anything about winning, it's about people claiming Gura's reclining from her CCV.

>>22286553
It doesn't give a specific value or formula, all it shows is that short-term post-processing gives her views comparable to a much higher CCV stream, ergo her CCV is still fucked. If that frustrates you then I don't know what to say.

>22286594
Just how many copy pasta are you gonna samefags as?

>>22286594
numbers?

>>22285923
To be fair, in regards to merch, we had no idea just how much that shit was selling. Hell, even now we still don't know shit about how much Nijisanji earns in merch sales. Everyone would've continued holding SCs in high regard if not for the leak that merchanon gave us. Now that we have somewhat solid numbers and we see just how much merch really mogs SC, we kind of just use SC purely for horseracing purposes. Also, any serious talks about subgrowth kind of got killed by Gura and myth. As impressive as Luxiem's subgrowth is, we have seen better. Hell, Kobo is on par or outright outpacing Luxiem right now and she debuted less than a month ago. She's already passed every non Luxiem NijiEn channel and will start overtaking Lux members this month.

>>22286672
>all it shows is that short-term post-processing gives her views comparable to a much higher CCV stream
please point to how the fuck would you know this

13k likes vs 9k likes,
11k CCV vs 18k CCV btw

Another loop?
Also how does twitter count clip view anyway?

Top 15 daily superchat (lazy edition)

>>22286591
>stands a good chance of winning the tourney
Agreed also on Noah team as well
How do we save aqua team bros?

>>22286594
Yeah, I lost a lot of respect I had for Fubuki after today.

>>22286783
double the subs you fucking moron

vsaikyos 3 scrim winner
>day 1: SGK
>day 2: SGK
>day 3: SGK
>day 4: MQK
>day 5: MQK
>day 6: SGK

tournament winner: PG1

PG1 scrim pos
>day 1: 12th
>day 2: 12th
>day 3: 11th
>day 4: 2nd
>day 5: 2nd
>day 6: 2nd

source: https://yuukin256.github.io/vsaikyo_apex3_scrim_result/

vsaikyou 4 scrim winner
>day 1: Noah

startend scrim pos
>day 1: 12th

source: https://apex-scrim-result-vsaikyo4.vercel.app/

>>22286808
IRyS!!!!!

>>22286808
Damn vox sc rank dropped so hard from yesterday's spore stream. Guess making your Fujo fan base as spore character is a terrible idea.

>>22286831
Or you know, CCV is borked and Mori has much higher CCV in reality.

>>22286866
Nobody cares. This isn't the FPS thread. Stop posting Gaypex shit.

>>22286741
She does all of that without pandering to EN market and going fully into the ID market. That's the most impressive part.
But it's not unreasonable considering there are a lot of ID guys who like Kobo more than the entire fujo force of Luxiem.

>>22286915
Still a critical information for /#/ as it might affects ccv.

>>22286912
5 DAYS OLD, STREAMED ON JST NOON WHILE MAINLY EN AUDIENCE, DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF SUBS, HOW ARE YOU THIS RETARDED

>>22286912
CCV is fine, it's just that aside from Ina the ENs have heavy VOD viewers due to timezones.

>>22286774
Fine, it just shows that Gura got 100K post-stream views within two hours of the stream ending. Whichever you want to believe, I suppose.

>>22286716
Even her last big gain is from SC reading while having the SC turned on.
I used to defend her when she got criticized, but I'll just ignore her when she's slandered.

>>22286866
please post names of the members instead of the name of the team. much easier to recognize
>>22286818
Noah, Albio and Reimu are doing surprisingly well together. Im mainly watching them, hskw team and ema's.

>>22287022
yes, you know, like a normal youtuber that posts a video with that amount of subs

>>22287070
Yes, raw uploads are the same as stream vods, of course.

>>22286999
Nope, the CCV is higher than Youtube reports because they like to cull westerners for using adblock, or a PC with multiple tabs up, so on.

>>22287104
ah, yes, obviously they'd get queued for some reason, based entirely on guesswork from vague statements since you obviously don't have access to their code

>>22286741
>Hell, Kobo is on par or outright outpacing Luxiem right now and she debuted less than a month ago.
Well Kobo is matching Vox and it's still her 3rd week.
The thing with Luxiem's sub growth is that it's been the same absurd level for 2-3 months now.
If Kobo is still getting 4-5k subs a day like Vox in her 3rd month, then yeah we can say she's the same. Kobo being a Holo means she gets a huge sub dump when she debuts, whereas NijiEN (until Noctyx) had to basically build from nothing. Her being ID too is also more limiting long term than being an EN vtuber so I'm not sure she'll still be getting subs like this 3 months from now.

Holos typically hit the sub wall early because they get a shitton of subs and exposure at the start. We're still waiting for Vox and Mysta to hit that wall and go down to 1-2k subs a day.

Speaking of subs, what happened to gen 5? They debuted roughly around the same time as Myth but seem to be unable to achieve a fraction of their popularity despite having the same if not more opportunities and a greater advantage of debuting to the Japanese market where vtubers are mainstream unlike the niche West. Sub growth has been dismal for a long time now and Nene is even dipping into sub-10k/month territory.

>>22285923
What is the total SC for Holo/Niji so far? I only saw the numbers for 2021 and Holo was far ahead, but I'm wonder what the total is for both companies.

>>22287218
>despite having the same if not more opportunities and a greater advantage of debuting to the Japanese market where vtubers are mainstream unlike the niche West.
this is true just in your head

>>22286808
I really do wonder what happened to the regular SX Anon. Did he give up because Vox took the month? Has he decided to give up on /#/ due to the shitposting? Has mikecat's antics driven him off the deepend for real? Has the fact that many SCs are locked behind memebership streams broken his will instead?>>22286808

>>22287254
>anime is less mainstream in Japan than overseas
??????

>>22287197
So are you arguing that post-stream view processing doesn't exist? Or are you saying that a raw upload will somehow have the same view growth as a stream VOD when everyone who's watched the stream will have already seen it pre-VOD? What's your angle now?

>>22287042
>EOP thinks Fubuki is a numberfag because of a crazy month
>Gets disappointed because she's never been a numberfag
>Starts seething when he finds out she's a cross-company unityfag
Fubuki doesn't need your defense so you won't be missed, anon.

>>22287216
You see that's where the unpredictability of Kobo is. ID market is pretty much untapped for HoloID while there is a cap to Luxiem since they have a lot of competitors.

Kobo is basically ruling the ID market right now, not Luxiem with the CN market.

>>22286741
the thing is anon, that while you know the numbers for holo members, you dont know it for niji members in different levels of popularity. similarly, you won't know how they are selling right now and in the future, so the only way for this is to talk about scs.

>>22286999
Anon. If the existence of the inconsistency of how much everyone lost from the 2020 cull and the inconsistency of CCVID (2021 cull) have shown is anything, it's that YouTube's CCV is horridly, deeply flawed and that it's not even consistent between regions. I don't believe that JP isn't culled, nor do I believe EN is so heavily culled that Gura 'should have 60% more CCV' or some other outlandish takes, but to believe that CCV is 'fine' is to ignore the smell of horseshit when there's a giant pile of it right in front of you.

>>22287218
They're going to be the second JP gen to have all their members at 1 million subs or more. They're fine.

>>22287364
Anykara actually puts efforts into keeping confidential info secret, that's competency.

https://vrabi.net/video/qJrUce7Pm0o
Rin is streaming Uncharted on PS5 right now.
Is this the same deal Miko had? I remember reading that her perms were unique and no other holos were allowed to play Uncharted back then.

>>22286242
Youtube caption will be back

>>22287287
It's actually true when it comes to the otaku anime that air late night/early morning on TV there. When one thinks of anime popularity in Japan, it's mostly just the stuff that airs on primetime on Fuji TV/TV Tokyo/etc.
Just look at the amount of holos in Japan that never had seen Welcome to the NHK, a very common otaku staple in the west, for instance.

>>22287434
>growing slower than Mio, all of holoX, all of Council and all of ID
No they won't, they already got beaten by Moona and Ollie to 1M

>>22287533
What gen is going to beat them then aside from Gamers? Gen 1 has Aki and Mel. Gen 2 has Choco. Gen 3 has Flare. Gen 4 has Luna. None of those are going to reach 1 million before Lamy/Polka/Nene all do.

>>22287524
If the anime market is bigger in the West than in Japan then Cover are retarded for continuing to neglect holoEN while putting most of their focus on holoJP when it should be the reverse. Look at how successful Playstation became the moment they ditched deadweight Japan and focused on a California-based outlook.

>>22285923
Before Nijis were saying they have merch numbers but seeing hololive pretty much sells out all of their merch changed their narrative. They got lucky with Vox but that's about it. Most subbed Vtubers and viewed are still from hololive. Both EN and JP.

>>22286955
What? No it fucking doesn't. As long as the usual chubas stream they'll still get the same numbers whether they won some scrims or not.

What's this, timeloop day? Jesus fucking Christ the timeloops

>>22287577
Gen 6 are going to do it, not to mention all the remaining IDs and ENs too.

>>22287356
In the context of subs and subgrowth tho, it's not as important if they dominate the market since subs are a non-zero sum game.
Lots of people sub to every Holomem for example despite them all being technically competitors in the same timezone.
Luxiem isn't close to dominating the CN market (this CCVs aren't even that high) but that doesn't change that their subgrowth for the past 2 months have been Myth 2020-level.

Also no offense, but declaring that Kobo is ruling a market less than a month after debut is like saying HoloX was going to be Sankisei but better. HoloX's first month numbers were insane and we can see now that it wasn't sustainable.

>>22287597
But Vox is on path to take over Gura in the next 2 years

>>22287627
You are literally braindead retarded. Fucking kill yourself, learn to read you dumb fucking seanigger. Lamy, Polka and Nene all have less than 80k subs to hit 1 mil so they are going to be the next complete gen to hit 1 mil after Myth and Gamers. If you can't see this you need to fucking neck yourself

>>22287641
Vox will not last that long.

>>22286808
My bet is on Kanata to take this month.

>>22287675
If you've been observing sub growth patterns you'd know that gen 5 sub growth has been declining over time while EN and ID have been increasing over time, sub growth isn't linear.

>>22287627
Look at Iroha's sub growth anon.

>>22287629
>declaring that Kobo is ruling a market less than a month after debut is like saying HoloX was going to be Sankisei but better
Just like when you declare Luxiem's sub growth is on Myth-2020 level.
Anon, Myth 2020 blew Luxiem out of the gate, and they ruled the CCV game too, while Luxiem is dragging alongside HoloID.

>>22287627
Iroha literally has worse subgrowth right now than Gen 1 HoloIDs.

>>22287685
For holo? Sure I can see that. Vox will take the month barring any crazy Niji shenanigans (like last month's #1)

>>22287714
What actually happened to Iroha, that's some really low growth considering she just debuted and hasn't fully tapped into the greater hololive sub pool yet.

>>22287680
But some anon said that Vox had infinite growth

>>22287709
Ok, confirmed baiting. Kill yourself retarded SEAnigger

>>22287627
iroha is looking like flare all over again anon

>>22286594
Polka and FBK are good and a unity fag since forever. I follow them on twitter and they do that shit a lot. Even Shoe got a reply from Foobs.

>>22286401
every fucking time you VODfags bring up CCV to VOD comparisons.
every single fucking time.
this is why your VODcope ALWAYS fails.
VOD views have absolutely ZERO relation to CCV, ESPECIALLY with someone that has a worldwide fanbase.

>>22286912
Or you know. Them being HoloEN would mean they have a diverse fanbase all over the world. This is literally why Gura can get 15k+ on JP primetime

>>22287709
5th gen schizo is back this early?

>>22287627
dunno about that one

>>22286594
>Used to follow Fubuki
of course you did, you can't wheelbarrow her chat without subbing after all zhang-kun

>anons don’t recognize gen5schizo

>>22287762
She's blonde and in Hololive. It was bound to happen.

>>22287729
>Just like when you declare Luxiem's sub growth is on Myth-2020 level.
>their subgrowth for the *past 2 months*
Important distinction.
I'm not saying Luxiem going to keep this level and all get 1 mil in a year, but it's just fact that Luxiem's subgrowth in the past 2 months have been the closest we've seen to Myth's, not counting the huge first 2 weeks of new Holo debuts ofc.

>they ruled the CCV game too
We're not talking about CCV. We knew long ago that subgrowth does not have much correlation with CCV.
Kiara matched Ina in subgrowth all the way to 1.2 mil subs. Matsuri was one of the faster JPs to 1 mil subs.

>>22287627

>>22287840
I unsubscribed from Fubuki today

>>22287808
Ah yes, the worldwide fanbase that was around to watch her VOD 100K times but couldn't be bothered to watch the stream live just 2 hours earlier. That fanbase specifically.

>>22287765
Blondes are cursed in Hololive indeed

I'm back with a reminder.

At least don't reply to them.

Hey guys I'm the Aqua schizo, Aqua is bad ok? Give me (You)s.

>>22285272
>>22285404
Quetz...

>>22287627
Once they get their 3d, they might have a huge subgrowth but that's about it. Iroha & Lui are slowing them down.

>>22287887
good job, less zhangs are always a good thing

So, why are blondes so cursed /#/. Discuss.

>>22287935
Lui, actually despite the low initial interest has managed to somewhat keep up and her covers are doing pretty good relatively speaking, so she's been able to farm views as well, at the rate she's going she's gonna pass the samurai

>>22287808
>VOD views have absolutely ZERO relation to CCV
This is probably the most retarded thing in this thread.
High CCV = high VODs, that's literally how numbers work.
Why do you think Aqua has 3 1 mil VODs in the past week?

VOD growth after processing is a completely different topic.

>>22286594
I know we've been trying to move the thread away from responding to bait but anon if you're still here I'm begging you to reveal if this is bait or if you're completely, totally the shame of your parents

>>22287533
>Bae still inclining

Impressive

>>22286040
Too many overlaps at the time, and no one even knows what the fuck she's doing, a "harem building" stream can have way too meaning meanings.
5-6k like her usual numbers unless there's a brutal overlap then maybe 4-5k

>>22287878
And that's the same reason why I will say that Kobo has a much bigger potential than Vox or the entire Luxiem combined. Luxiem has access to a new market, yet that market is not interested in anything else other than his pandering content. We already see a slow down in their growth. And Luxiem seems to have exhausted their content.

Kobo, on the other hand, is growing tremendously without the use of her buffed stuff. And she has access to a more untapped country than Luxiem.

>>22287938
Japanese beta males (who comprise nearly all of Hololive's JP audience) see blondes as aggressive (sexually) and it scares them. True facts.

>>22287984
watame is the most powerful blonde in JP? maybe i should be nicer to watamage

>>22288009
No superchat from indons though lmao

>>22287984
Kanata's hair is blue? I always thought it more platinum.

>>22288052
Anon they have streamlabs for that

>>22288031
I know this is a shitposting thread but this is still dumb

>>22287197
you are an example of why tourists should just stfu and lurk

>>22288052
Indons donate via streamlabs, we've been over this when we discovered Ollie made more money than Polka or Botan.

>>22287984
Blonds literally are cursed in hololive. But honestlt, other than haachama, all of them are underrated. Aki especially.

>>22287984
That's some serious power gap between Watame and the others. Also, does Kanata REALLY count as blue?

>>22288075
no no no anon, it makes sense since watame is the top blonde and she's a fucking doormat

>>22288009
Vox is going to reach 1 million this year in less than a year at this point and the others will reach at the very least in the end of the year.

Blue girls bad, numbers bad, only thing that matters is kino

>>22288095
Not like Choco Mel Aki and Iroha are any aggressive

>>22288069
>>22288093
Blue highlights in the hair and half her outfit is blue, if Gura counts as blue for holoEN why wouldn't Kanata?

can some anon finally put in the effort and make a color power ranking based on numbers

>>22288072
Indonesians are poor

>>22288082
>zomkeks pay Ollie to yell at them for not knowing english

>>22288103
And Kobo will probably match his speed if he doesn't decline since she is pretty ID darling right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fpky0u3vVc
Does she count as a vtuber?

>>22288009
>We already see a slow down in their growth
If by slow down, you mean by a hundred or so subs a day, then sure?
Vox is still getting 4-5k subs a day and imo I don't consider it slowing down until he drops to 1-2k subs a day like most Holos and Nijis.
Again, CCV and subgrowth are barely correlated.

> And Luxiem seems to have exhausted their content.
Wait till they start spamming unarchived karaokes... Mysta is getting addicted to the numbers he got in his 2 karaokes and he realized he doesn't even need to be good.

>Kobo, on the other hand, is growing tremendously without the use of her buffed stuff
Do you think horror games like Outlast aren't buff content? Kobo is going to be the CCV queen of ID, but don't pretend she hasn't been doing buff content too.

>>22287975
context, nigger
Every viewer that watched for at least 1 minute counts as a "VOD view".
And so, longer streams = better VOD views.
VOD views can also GROW, unlike CCV, and the growth rate differs a lot based on many, many factors.
JPs watch stuff like since everything is in their timezone. ENs have fans in different time zones, so VODs tend to grow even after a few days.
Just because Gura got 17k CCV and a 250k VOD does NOT mean that she's getting "culled", it just means that she has an audience that will still watch her even if it's not live.
This has been said so many fucking times here and you retards ignore it every single time, which is why VOD <--> CCV comparisons are always, ALWAYS cope.

>>22288133
And yet they still receive a ton of money from Streamlabs

Luxiem has fallen from being in a horse race with HoloEN to now HoloID?
What the hell is happening?

>>22288082
Proof? I cant trust anons here when someone also said that bae made 130k from merch in 3 days which is false btw

>>22288129
So what you are saying is Bae's black and white streaks override how 90% of her hair is red?

>Comparing them with ID now
KEK, now this is pathetic

>>22288159
Kobo also has karaoke as well anon, and the best part is that she also has people watching her game, unlike the fickle Luxiem fans.

>>22288171
Blue indog girl strong

>>22288156
She did when she was Kaguya Luna.

>>22288156
Technically yes but she doesn't consider herself as one
Which I call bullshit, I'm not about to accept faggots calling themselves gender fluid because they identify themselves as one

>>22288168
And botan recieves half of russia's gdp

>>22288171
I mean numbers aside holoEN doesn't stream so how are you even gonna compare them?

>>22288122
I don't think you understand what "aggressive" means in this context anon, aki, choco and Mel are literal succubi

>>22288171
Thanks to Holofes and Gen 3 HoloID is now stronger than I ever thought imaginable. We'll see how long it lasts.

When holoen got mogged by ID i will be the one who shitpost the most, fucking holobronies

>>22288156
She has content that is 100% textbook vtuber and the rest of her videos being illustrated sketches doesn't invalidate that. So yes, unambiguously a vtuber unless she replaced her virtual avatar with her irl face or something.

Who would've thought Kobo would be "the one" in HoloID. Always thought it would be Zeta

>>22288269
Eat shit and die nijinigger

>>22288269
When that happened, your fucking EN branch will be shitposted to dead too fucking retard nijiniggers

>>22288176
Kanata has way more blue in her image than Bae has black or white

>>22288203
We'll see what Kobo gets for her 2nd karaoke and if it's unarchived, but from the one we did see, it's not really a contest.
Mysta got 33k and 28k (unarchived while overlapping with Sonny's birthday totsu).
Sonny got 23k with birthday and first time buff.
Yugo got 17k with first time buff.
Ike got 22k with first time buff.
Vox and Luca are likely to get Mysta's numbers or higher this/next week.

Kobo got 16.5k with first time buff.
Not sure why we're comparing EN and ID anyways since it's not fair to ID's smaller audience pool.

>>22287840
> you can't critize fubuki! You are a zhang, reee
These girls have tens of thousands fans. Whatever they do will lead to some gains and loses. Just take the L and move forward.

>>22288283
It's cute vs cool. Cute has broader appeal, Zeta's design inherently puts her too close to the middle in the cute vs cool scale.

/#/ go 20 posts without the SEA schizo bringing up Luxiem challenge (impossible)

>>22288129
to be fair blue makes up most of gura's design

>>22288171
Luxiem hasn't really fallen off, their medians are still within 1k of last month.
it's more like HoloID has risen up and they deserve credit for that.

>>22288347
Which anon SS did you take?

>>22288347
Boring fox fans are literal psychopaths, whatever you say or post they'll just keep calling you a zhang for not liking their shitty oshi

>>22288320
That's because NijiEN numbers aren't comparable to HoloEN since it's not fair for NijiEN's smaller audience pool.

>>22288386
I just posted that today. You can spend hours searching the archive. I'ma head to bed.

>>22288370
It also feels like Mysta hasn't streamed much so far in April, and he's their biggest CCV getter.

>>22288370
Median of 1k? I don't think that's how it is for most of them. I see Vox going 5k-4k, Mysta going 4k-3k, Luca going 4k-3k, Ikue going 3k-2k and Shu going 2k-1k

>>22288452
probably hanging in an apartment somewhere

>>22288347
>$20
Wow didn't know that dropping $20 on a chuuba is considered a big shot and a voice in the community.

>>22288462
Don't worry sis, Luxiem will get 3D and their CCV median will be 20k soon.

>>22288452
He's busy preparing for his trip to Indonesia so he can finally have that offpako with Mika, please understand

>>22288445
Eh, they're comparable to Council's first time karaoke numbers, but not Myth's.
Mysta's first 2 karaokes beat Kronii's and Mumei's first 2.
Bae's highest karaoke ever (not counting the NY relay) is 13k.
Not close to Myth's first karaokes tho (Even Ame got 50k in 2020 for her first karaoke).

>>22288167
I love that you're using the timezone argument and growth-with-time argument when talking about a VOD that's only existed for two hours, at least try for an argument with a passable basis. And yes, I'm sure that extra hour makes so much difference that it'd provide an extra 50% views.

>>22288269
>>22288286
>>22288313
Kobo is mogging kronii, kiara and sana in CCV

>>22288462
>their medians are still within 1k of last month.
Did you have a stroke, anon lol?
Vox and Mysta basically sleepwalk to 6k nowadays doing anything.
They can get 5k reading SC with Luxiem overlap.

We're probably never not going to see Vox and Mysta drop below 5k median.

>>22288462
Read nigga READ.

>>22287629
Actually it's not unreasonable to think Kobo ruling the ID market if you understand bahasa and watch her stream . She is different than the previous ID girls.

Mysta is really double downing on the minecraft stuff when his viewers aren't even interested/ecstatic about it. Dream's demographics are kids or teens who are into the roleplay stuff he's doing, Pekora is the same. But when your demo is mostly fujos who are only interested in BL roleplay, why would they want to watch minecraft pranks/horror/mods?

>>22288534
And? Is that supposed to make the holobronies mad?

>>22288572
sounds like someone is trying to escape that hellhole

Different time slot for Lui's utawaku. Curious to see how viewership will be.

>>22288452
Well it's a good litmus test tonight to see if he's slowing down.
>Horror Minecraft mod with clickbait title and thumbnail again
If he doesn't get 10k, then maybe he has hit the wall.

I wonder how long it'll be until he finally plays a game where he'll need to do a 2nd stream of to finish.

>>22288517
>I'm sure that extra hour makes so much difference
It does, since she's EN
EN Youtube doesn't stay up late to watch Normal streams, they just catch up on VODs.

>>22288534
This is not Nijisanji, nijinigger.

>>22288462 lets see >>>22267305

>>22288517
it makes as much sense as her having double the ccv but it being invisible

>>22288347
Fubuki doesn't even have a 20$ tier Zhang-kun
at least do some basic research

>>22288219
>botan gets 700+ BILLION Dollars!?
cover is set for the next 3 decades, heck ayame, shion or anyone for that matter could just stream 30 min per month and they still gona get their regular paycheck. Thank you russian-niki!!!

Niji en comparison with dream's is the funniest shit I have ever read. Nijisis don't ever change lolol

Looks like Elden Ring #1 will be Pekora's third VOD in 2022 to break 800k views. Definitely a missed opportunity for 1M like the anon said.

>100% Kirby in two seatings
Okayu is just gilt different kek. That game is not the biggest buff so she just powered through it to achieve her goal as soon as possible

>>22288572
Horror + Luxiem has been an easy 10k or close for 2 months now.
No idea if Minecraft horror works the same way, but Minecraft has been a buff game for NijiEN recently. Noctyx literally double their numbers with it.

Kobo is really changing how people perceive HoloID, from being a side branch to worthy enough to match against the super-buff Luxiem.

>>22288652
yes anon, peko sucks

>>22288082
when and how did we discover this?

>>22288507
"even" is a bit of a weird qualifier, at the time ame was the second most popular myth

karaokes are still some of her strongest streams nowadays, although that's mostly because she's good at combining them with shenanigans

>>22288647
You are on to something here anon, careful out there
>>22288652
Wait for community translations for official stream. Will buff every jp vtubers vod

>>22288605
Yes, they all went out of their way to watch her stream during the two hours after it ended, that two hours is such a hassle after all, even though there's no timezone that'd benefit from that specific timeframe. Whatever you say.

>>22288626
Because there's no evidene of CCV culling in the past, okay.

>>22288700
just sit tight for the proof anon, it's gonna take a while

>>22288677
NijiEN needs to go for that Dream demo because I can see them being big with the kids.

>>22288009
Yups, I'm still waiting for her 2nd karaoke. We will see a tremendous growth after that.

>>22288681
I want to fuck the muslim blue cunny I want to fuck all the muslim id girls in hololive I will feed them my semen during ramadan breaking their fast. I'm sorry my indog friend...

>>22288700

>>22288726
Kobo is everywhere on ID internet, seriously she exploded into the scene and left a very good impression.

>>22288681
And all it took was one ID not being EN-lite.

>>22288534
I so happy for Hololive ID, take your fucking L Riku along with your shitty management.

>>22288764
Doesn't help that Iofi, Risu and Moona aren't even EN lite, they're just straight up bad streamers (but great singers)

>>22288715
>oh gura's streaming but it's halfway done already, i wanna watch it from the start
>waits until streams over
>clicks
>30 seconds pass
>counts as a view

>>22288517
i mean its what i did with Pikamees a hat in time stream. shit starts at a unreasonable time for me so i wait for her to finish + 1 hour for youtube to process it and then watch it

>>22288764
The funny thing is that ID watchers don't have to use VPN to watch and sub to her, possibly increasing her sub growth even more.

>>22288681
>worthy enough to match against Luxiem
RORU RUMAO
Say that again once any of your indogs gets $4,000 in one sitting, faggot

>>22288681
Babby's first debut buff? Give them a few more weeks indog-kun before getting cocky

>>22288799
>Anecdotal evidence
Argument dismissed.

>>22288764
I mean, Reine tried doing ID only for like the first week and a half and it did not go well.

>>22288764
you're missing the most important attribute: blue cunny
reine tried to not be en-lite for a while and it didn't do shit

>>22288790
it's crazy how fucking boring Moona is, at least she's a good singer

>>22288348
I'd say it's different kind of cute. Zeta is gf material, while Kobo is universally cute liked by both men and women.

>>22286469
>Read the filename.
How many times are we going to tell you that ccv can't translate into vod views and vice versa? Just fucking stop

>Almost 1 month
>D-debut buff! Just wait for a few more weeks!
Pathetic
>M-Muh SuperChat!
gloating over ID? Disgusting

This is why you need to disregard stream numbers for at least a month after debut, everyone's overhyping Kobo.
She is good, much better than the previous ID gens but that doesn't mean she can consistently put up 5k+ once debut buff is gone.
Just look at how all of HoloX had 10k+ streams in their first month and look at them now.

>>22286242
>a 50% longer stream gets more vod views
ANBERIBABURU

>>22288795
100K people all had that thought in that specific timezone that'd benefit from it, of course. Which timezone is that, actually, since you're such an expert on the subject?

>>22288799
Which timezones are unreasonable for Gura, pray tell? I'll tell you right now, it's not NA, SEA or even JP or Auss. If you're arguing that it's EU then that 2 hour timeframe would've been even worse.

>>22288884
Maths reps.

>>22288868
>almost 1 month
it's been 16 days anon, just because you can approximate it to the nearest 30 doesn't make it almost

>>22288884
>3 days ago vs 2 hours ago
post stream processing isn't even finished yet, the mogging isn't even complete, wait half a day for that

>>22288884
do your view reps

Kobo even got SCs from Indonesian housewives telling her she's cute I don't know why that's so hilarious to me

>>22288899
Okay, I will take the L in that, but I hope no one will use the holofes buff excuse again

>>22288917
Do your viewer churn reps

>>22288133
Americans are poor too to a point that they rely on Stimulus checks. So what's your point?

>>22288895
her stream was over at 10pm on like half the US my dude

>>22288868
It has literally been barely more than 2 weeks.
No one disputes Kobo will the biggest ID vtuber, but to say she'll be a 6k+ median streamer off of her first 2 weeks is retarded.
/#/ was so sure Kronii was going to be 15k+ median in her first 2 weeks when she still got 10k+ for Frostpunk and look what the fuck happened.

>>22288895
>Which timezones are unreasonable for Gura, pray tell? I'll tell you right now, it's not NA, SEA or even JP
are you retarded? her stream was at 10a.m jst. (most)people are at work/school in that time.

>>22288895
>Maths reps
The fucking irony
2:40 is 160 minutes
3:58 is 238 minutes
238/160=1.4875, or 48.75% more

https://youtu.be/jfGf_9QsccA

Are Luxiem fans scared of Kobo?

Anyone can enlighten me why Lui have low numbers even though she tries to do both timezones in her streams?

>>22288986
her voice filters people

>>22288882
The difference is that HoloID is growing their audience from a pool that mostly wasn't already holo ID fans.

>>22288868
This is the same number of days after debut that Chloe got 31k playing some horror game that had already been streamed to death

>>22288981
When Kobo approaches Luxiem in viewership, this sort of enlightens them that a potential rival is fast approaching.

>>22288976

>>22288969
to be fair, Kronii kills herself with her lazy streams, debuff games and bad timeslots/schedules. Kobo has a much better work ethic and you can already see it.

>>22288976

>>22288986
She like the initial Coco where her voice filter a lot people but later on got better at talking.

>>22288926
Wait, what? Link?

>>22288958
>Ending at 10PM is bad timing
I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

>>22288970
It's 9AM, I live in Japan and people still work from home, you stupid fuck.

>>22288917
What does "intentionally" mean here? I've always thought one of the reasons songs maintain such high weekly view counts is that they keep getting autoplayed but autoplay by strict definition wouldn't be an "intentional" view.

>>22288969
Kobo is not Kronii, she will not react to her immediate popularity in the same way Kronii did. And there's no reason to assume Kobo won't maintain high numbers just because other vtubers have failed to carry their debut momentum. When you get a hit, it's a fucking hit. If there were no exceptions we wouldn't have any of the current superstars either.

>>22288986
Lui is a hag that actually sounds like a hag so it's an actual filter. She's the same age as Koyori, but sounds like she's 50.
The value of hags comes from setting up big number collabs, not from their actual streams altho it is nice when they do get good numbers.

>>22288854
ID2 was riding myth hype tho

>>22288976
Pedo wet dream.

Moom will save holoEN

Looks like another holo fan game is being played

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1513792718278778881

https://youtu.be/qa5S4nK1EsA

>>22288972
Anon, 4 hours is 1/3rd more than 2 hours 40 minutes.

80 + 80 = 160
80 + 80 + 80 = 240

>>22288986
You know how Flare has that shrill in her voice that's kind of annoying and it even ends up in her covers, well Lui has that but like turned up to 11

>>22288976
30k stream for choco

>>22289078
Autoplay apparently counts as long as it isn't an embed on a website.

>>22289099
I'm scare for milord, please don't show up at his turf moomer...

Reposting to help put this thread back on number rails, here is a chart that ended up forgotten this time

> Median of Peak CCV, January 1st to March 31st
Meaning the Q1 2022 chart.

"Ayame rule" is set at 15 streams in the period, to be in line with the "5 per month" for the monthly ones.
Outside the new debuts, that leaves out
>Ayame
>Toya
>Shion
and assorted corporate channels and lower ranked streamer channels.


Here is the top 50
>pic related
and ten comments about it

1) Despite of the amazing performance by Aqua, Marine rarity buff guaranteed her the #1 for the first quarter, with a 32833 median
2) Following very close, and also with a 30k+ median comes Aqua, very buffed by her APEX runs
3) Pekora, Kuzuha and Subaru, plus the Hololive main channel complete the 20k+ top
4) Gura is, as usual, the highest ranked EN and Mito, the highest ranked Niji girl
5) 23 channels are over 10k
6) Top 50 has 39 girls (7 from Nijisanji) and 10 ENs (2 from Nijisanji, Vox and Mysta)
7) 6k does not put a channel in the top 50, with the lowest one qualifying being Chihiro with 6473
8) 10k doesn't put a channel in the top 20, with Ange holding that position with a 10.5k median
9) Koyori has the most streams of the Top 50 among the streamer channels, with 150, and Marine the least, with 20
10) Miko failed to get a 20k median for the trimester by 3, seems like 20k is for grown ups after all.

>>22289137
Math reps retard chama, 240 is 50% larger than 160

>>22289122
>https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1513792718278778881
cute

>>22289099
I love this owl

>>22289083
Every gen needs a member that's less about big numbers and more about mentally supporting the gen as a whole. Sort of a manager-mentor in vtubing disguise.

>>22289122
>Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley Lite
Looks neat

>>22289099
holy fuck, asmr? Fan game? the return of minecraft. this is a kino schedule

>>22289162
And here is the whole shebang, with 10 more comments

1) 2k does not put a streamer in the Top 100, with that position being with Rosemi, with a 2.2k median
2) Moona finished the trimester as the highest ranked non JP-EN, with a 1.9k median
3) Roboco finished Q1 with a 3k median, the lowest among Holo girls but an incline in relation to the last few months of 2021
4) Roberu, the highest ranked Holostar, outranked Risu, Reimu, Anya, Mika and Iofi
5) Virtual Talent Academy, Anycolor academy, finished the trimester with a 156 median, being outranked by Hajime
6) Six NijiIDs and two NijiKRs finished Q1 with 2 digits
7) Mysta, the highest ranked NijiEN, finished the trimester with a 8.4k median
8) No NijiEN had a median below 1k this trimestre
9) Conversely: no NijiEN girl had a median above 3k, and no NijiEN boy had a median below 3k. There is a clear divide in there

And the punchline
10) With 18 streams Sana median was 3659, outranking Selen. It was still not this trimester that Selen got the upper hand

>>22288976
Chinman won't be streaming tonight since he'll be watching this and fapping to the VOD for hours until he passes out.

Choco playing the long game and denying Niji Gold for tomorrow too.

>>22289162
>150

>>22288986
JP has terrible taste and has made the best member the runt 3 gens in a row

>>22289162
>4) Gura is, as usual, the highest ranked EN
>3.92 mil subs
>only 9th
>13k average CCV which is 0.04% of her subs watching her
OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO HOLOBROS??? HOW DID WE LET GURA RECLINE????

>>22289142
If this got gold I'm gonna lick Choco's ass for a week

>>22289137
Holy shit, you are retarded
240 is 50% more than 160. 160 + 80 (160*50%) = 240
160 is 33% less than 240. 240 - 80 (240*33%) = 160

>>22289141
Flare does the shrill thing intentionally because she's pitching up. Her normal register is pure sex.

>>22288497
>>22288552
>>22288554
I thought they were talking about sub growth because of the 1k. It didn't make any sense for them to have a median of 1k for ccv, thats why I said that

>>22288986
I don't understand Japs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOsls1Swb_o
She has a very good deep voice. Anyway, a lot of holos have inclined late on their careers, subaru and towa especially.

>>22289081
>When you get a hit, it's a fucking hit. If there were no exceptions we wouldn't have any of the current superstars either.
Superstar either all reclined from their debut hype or had weak debut and procedeed to incline.

>>22289231
ok noel
post tits

>>22289164
>>22289223
>can't do basic fractions
You guys suck at math, never try it again

>>22288790
>>22288859
so.. why this thread act like holo scout is so good? or the board in general?

>>22288976
Botan joining ChocoSubaLuna? That should be a good fit.

>>22288972
>>22289164
50% length correlating to the same growth gained in 3 days in 2 hours is fucking retarded.

Holy fuck, what happened to Mumei? Where is this motivated state coming from?

>>22289218
Not just JP, EN made the trash that is Myth the highest subbed gen overall. Honestly the bottom 50% subbed holomembers mog the fuck out of the top 50% in entertainment value, talent and everything other than numbers

>>22289272
you're not gonna get winners everytime, it's just that they've gotten a lot of them

>>22289162
thank you for doing something like this anon, im curious how everything will look at the end of the year

>>22289218
Who? I can only name Polka, but luna/lui are not the best in their gens. Lui has a very good voice though. Honestly, Gen 6 has the most solid line up singers.

>>22289272
They scouted gen 5, that should tell you how """good""" (lol) the holoJP scouts are. EN is a different matter tho

>>22289259
Fucking retardGOD. don't they teach elementary math at your sea shithole or what?
Leave this thread if you are incapable of understanding how percentages relative to a number work

>>22289222
I'd do that anyway

>>22289272
Different branch have different scouting team
and not every pick will be good

>>22289272
Holo-only faggots, please understand
They think that Holos are "talented" when they're not even close to the talent some indies have

>>22289278
she's been the 4th wheel of that group for a while

>>22289291
She want gura spot before en 3 arrival.

>>22289318
lmao jealous 2 view. Your CV got rejected???

>>22289291
Me. I raped her yesterday until she agree to stream more. No need to thank me, anon

>>22289287
Thinking the watch time metric doesn't exist or believing vods gain a lot of views after the stream ends is also fucking retarded

>>22289291

>>22289291
she just dropped out of college

>>22289278
...yes she is a good fit as seen by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmJg0a-YW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmJg0a-YW8

>>22289318
>t. seething 2 view
Kek

>>22289297
>>22289309
>>22289315
thats my point. I think the board and the thread in general gloats about holo scout and says niji is bad but I think in both sides they have different qualities of streamers.

>>22289272
holy fuck, you guys act like every pick has to be good for the scouts to be considered good scouts.
Just hitting gold like Gura once is enough for talent scouts to be considered good. In the music industry, you literally get one superstar and you're considered a good scout. Not to mention, they hit gold when they scouted Pekora, Fubuki, Aqua etc.

>>22289374(me)
the second link was supposed to be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkV0ZHHK6GY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G6fjOfg-Dw&t=0s

>>22289389
Uhhh, anon, nobody said that niji scouts is bad, most of /#/ anon said that cover is really lucky with their picks

>>22288790
Management should look at the reactions to Risu's 3D and take the fucking hint.

>>22289099
Holy buff streams

>>22289099
Assuming no significant overlap:
>Drawing with Iofi will be on Iofi's channel
>Chatting stream
8-9k
>ASMR
8k
>Minecraft
10k+, even more with VC and I swear to fucking god if no one in HoloEN calls in, I will seethe
>Fanmade game
10k

>>22289311
dunno if solid, i mean, lap and chloe are good but they really need training, while iroha is average and koyo is kinda below average
the one thing they have is that no one is noel/choco tier

>>22289422
You need to increase all of those by about 2k to be accurate.

>>22289180
Hags are role-players. You don't start with them, but you can achieve greater successes with them.

>>22289272
Probably they hired them for other abilities (Risu and Moona are good singers) and train their streaming skill later

>>22289291
her RM has been inactive for at least 5days now
she might go full hololive mode

>>22289422
>t. never watched a Mumei stream in his life or looked at her numbers

>>22289099
That's a very good weekend.

>>22289357
Gura gaining 100K views two hours after the stream ended is precisely why this argument is happening, the fuck is your point?

>>22289450
I thought she already stopped doing RM stuff?

>>22289422
ASMR easily 10k. 8k for chatting stream and iofi collab. Minecraft + Fangame will definitely >11k

some numbers i just did
>>22289439

>>22289442
EN branches need role players...

>>22288764
and I think ID2 didn't want their fanbase to be littered with underage ID fanbase or probably their content is too "elite" for underage IDs to enjoy.
Kobo on the other hand is a relatable zoomer.

>>22289495
because there isn't a single hag in EN

>>22289483
she still liked and sometimes retweet arts or other indie cover song

>>22289412
sorry when i say it i mean the board in general, or heck, even the english side of vtuber fans.
but well, I do agree. in Nijisanji you have Moira, Aki, Hajime on the first wave alone who cant stream for life while on holo you have roboco, sora who's a great singer but one of the most boring streamers out there. Then you have Iofi, Anya, Risu, Moona, Aki.. a lot carried by brand.

>>22289492
but you have to do the same for kiara to make that comparison anon

>>22289422
>>22289486
the drawing collab will get no less than 14k, even if it's on iofi's channel.

Never thought that fujos will numberfag on a doxx site.

>>22289545
>14k
>on iofi's channel
roru

>>22289450
she finished her hw/project early

>>22289492
Hah, was wondering when someone would do this. Getting nervous about Mori coming closer to being the most vieiwed Hololive member.

>>22289512
It all seems so clear now. Activate it Yagoo, give us 2 hags for EN3.

>>22289542
Well, can't win em' all

>>22289291
she failed her college exams and is now holding onto hololive for dear life

>>22289291
she got expelled and decided to go all in on holo

>>22289512
the closest you're gonna get is stale cake chicken, which is why a lot of collabs happen cause of her, i know a lot of people like to complain about the timezones or whatever, but i'd bet those wouldn't even happen without her

>>22289443
>>22289467
>Her last chatting stream without overlap (9.3k)
https://vrabi.net/video/sLx0N8Fjcbo
>Last "ASMR" (7.4k)
https://vrabi.net/video/Kt45oQP-7yU
We don't have a baseline for fanmade games since it's been ages since anyone has played Smol Ame.

What numbers do you guys think Mumei regularly gets? An 11k zatsu?

>>22289543
yeah i forgot about that since it took so long. the main reason i did it anyway was to get an idea how much of mori's views are music related, i just tacked on the comparison at the end since that was what started the conversation

>>22289580
Based, she can milk Hololive for a few years then finish up her studies later.

>>22289557
why the fuck do they use fucking iketog as a discussion forum, i'm still equally disgusted and baffled by this

>>22289542
Roboco just needs to find her angle! Delete this!

>>22289612
>last asmr:study stream
Anon... that's literally just a stream with barely any talking. She's gonna talk this time.

>>22289580
>>22289599
is this actually true

>>22289512
JP hags are better than EN hags unfortunately

>>22289545
>14k on Iofi's channel
Jfc meds.

>>22289412
Niji en suck, let's copy holos twitch fag.

>>22289442
which hag is closest to being a star? korone? fbk?

>>22289545
come on, that just doesn't happen.

>>22289612
That chatting stream ended at like 1 AM Eastern didn't it?

>>22289557
That doxsite is overrun by Luxiemfags from /here/. They use the same lingo as people from this shithole.

>>22289643
no i made it up

>>22289660
Marine and then FBK/Korone

>>22289701
isn't marine still technically not a hag

>>22289564
>>22289648
>>22289668
i just noticed it's at 9AM PST on a weekday. nevermind.

>>22289162
>Top 50 has 39 girls (7 from Nijisanji) and 10 ENs (2 from Nijisanji, Vox and Mysta)
You're implying Vox and Mysta are girls from this sentence

>>22289545
Are you from /pagi/ or you just want to troll ?

>>22289732
Nevermind, I read it wrong. 11 boys. 2 out of 10 ENs are guys.

>>22289745
Anon, Iofi's anniversary countdown barely scraped by 2k today. That's obviously just a shitpost. She doesn't have delusional fans.

>>22289641
Sure, we'll see. She did talk last time, but the topic is a bit more interesting this time.
ASMR numbers for HoloEN haven't been great for months and Mumei's brand of ASMR has always been MemeSMR.

>>22289669
It ended near to 3am EST, but she was reading SCs for half the stream. It's a pretty normal time for her karaokes/ Irys and Kronii's streams so there is an audience for HoloEN there despite it being late for EST.

>>22289722
I always thought Marine as a hag with how she moves and that 17 years old meme.

>>22289745
no, i was going based off mumei's drawing stream numbers, but i didn't notice the time was shit.

>>22289557
They got kicked out from /#/. kek.

>>22289722
Marine is spiritually a hag even if she's not officially there yet.

>>22289836
yes the time is shit, but if it was on iofi's channel it wouldn't even break 10k. Also Iofi sucks at art

>>22289820
Not until we get the best ever christmas present this year

Luxiem got sandwiched between a motivated HoloEN and the ambitious HoloID3?

>>22289836
>mumei's drawing stream numbers
Those are from drawing Holomems as grotesque monstrosities and not representative of a normal drawing stream.

Speaking of drawing Holomems, when was the last time Ina drew a Holomem seriously on stream except for herself?
I remember when she did art for every Myth member and lots of JPs for their birthdays, but she didn't this year and I don't think she has even drawn any art of Council apart from the sketches during their debuts.

>>22289864
i wish

>No peko stream
>No marine stream
>No subaru stream
Welp

>>22289836
You're not taking into account the Iofi debuff

>>22289932

>>22289932
no aqua pov either, it's literally free for kuzuha today

What would happen to these luxiem numberfags once Cover's scouting got a gura-tier male vtuber for ENStars? Are they gonna resort to become like salty nijifags before Hololive became popular and pin the offcollab as an off pako between three guys and nina?

>>22289917
when's the last time Ina did art at all? It feels like she's just using her roommate to produce art and doesn't want to do it on stream. Kind of sucks.

>>22289954
Sorry King, you'll be slipping again

>>22289836
I don't blame you. Iofi on a good day gets like 800-1k ccvs. If you want the collab to break 14k then you're expecting 13k or more hooman to watch Mumei collab. Even if the time is good, there's no way Mumei would get 13k for a drawing stream like this, unless her partner is Kronii

/vt/ is declining...
We need another yab

>>22289964
that's impossible anon, holostar is such a debuff that a gura tier streamer won't save them

>>22289964
>Gura-tier male vtuber
so an average CCV Vtuber with a sea of dead subs.
Luxiem fans wouldn't even be bothered

>>22289966
I think she just does doodle streams these days. Low commitment and she's not stuck completing an artwork.

>>22289985
this isn't a decline, we're just stabilizing from holofes and april fools.

>>22289962
Kneel time or slip time?

>>22290005
Where is NijiEN April Fools?

>>22290004
Yeah I don't think she's done in an actual art stream since at least November though, correct me if I'm wrong.

>>22290009
probably kneel time, it's vsaikyo related with no competition

>>22289992
you're saying as if it was just a coincidence or luck that got Cover Gura in the first place. Hololive wasn't even at its peak when holoEN auditions was around. Nijisanji was still dominating at that era.

>>22289557
I'm similarly amazed that so many of them use the doxx site as a discussion place

COME ON MEL!
>DO IT AGAIN!

>>22289932
Not so fast Silverbros. SubaChocoLunaTan is streaming today

>>22290043
Come on now, let King have gold for today at least

>>22290022
It's everyday.

>>22290028
She drew herself using a somewhat experimental painterly style on March 8. Got 86k likes on Twitter which is pretty good for a Holo. Since then she’s been on an Elden ring kick

>>22290049
As a Chocomeito, any stream that's on Choco's channel has basically no chance at gold.

>>22290043
Everyone remembers Mel's Halloween 3D live party beating Kuzuha's Halloween costume, but no one remembers Kuzuha beating the ChocoMel 3D live with his Mario Kart tournament POV on Dec 19.
Overshadowed since Pekora won the day with a 183k costume.

The point is, Mel's not really the vampire slayer the shitposts makes it sound.

* SNIIFFF *
>nothing personel, Rushia