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>> No.22246457
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.22246484

Aquadoggo cute

>> No.22246495

Damn, Yugo fell that far down?
Guess being a woman in a man’s model doesn’t work after all.

>> No.22246530
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NijiEN overlap in the EU timeslot is bad enough now that Yugo is a 3view.
And no, unlike Kaela, she's not reading SCs.

>> No.22246551
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22246551

>>22246111
>>22246156
Here is an interesting chart
> Holo JP5 vs. Holo ID1 vs. Niji Selejo

I genuinely don't know what may have gone wrong with those Selene Girls but whatever happened 100% damaged them for the long run.
Did they debut head to head with Gen 5 / Koshien / Holofes or something similar (like VTA girls debuted as Ranunculus head to head with Holofes)?

>> No.22246555

>>22246433
Yugo was literally always a poor performer and one "good" stream, and by good I mean "decent numbers because of a fucking karaoke" wasn't going to change that. Overlap will always murder her and quite frankly considering how fucking bad she is at streaming in general doesn't change anything.

>>22246495
If she were actually competent, actually interesting, then she would be able to salvage something. But she's neither. She's just somehow more retarded than Mysta.

>> No.22246561

>>22246530
is that shu stream single POV?

>> No.22246564

>>22246530
Damn Yugo's view becoming ID tier now

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>>22246495
Good thing Nijisanji is cool with alt genderbent models

>> No.22246628

Things gonna be interesting in ID with Moona (currently in VC with ID1 and Ollie), Zeta, Kobo and Kaela overlapping each other

>> No.22246657
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22246657

* HoloID vs. NijiEN right now, head to head *
I think this thread will have to take a step backwards and go back to the days NijiEN was compared with HoloID only (before the boys were added) because it looks like more of a horse race here.

>> No.22246687

>>22246551
Iirc they were marketed as a group like a Hololive Gen but it was obvious from the start that they had no camaraderie.

>> No.22246694

>>22246657
Wang reclining

>> No.22246699

>>22246657
Waiting for Kobo

>> No.22246706

>>22246657
>vox still dropping
lmao

>> No.22246708

>>22246495
>>22246530
>opens Yugo's stream
>he is reading super chats

holoniggers lie as naturally as they breath

>> No.22246729

>>22246657
what's with Gen3 ID and their retarded schedule?

>> No.22246777

>>22246708
cope

>> No.22246784

>>22246561
No, but he peaked at 5.1k and declined since because it's mahjong.

>>22246555
Yugo is actually an incredible singer so I expect her karaokes to continue to do well in the future. I was actually jealous she wasn't a Holo until I remembered that she's awful at streaming and completely uninteresting.
There's quite a few like her in NijiJP too, great singers/musicians, but bad day-to-day streamers that can't hold an audience. Melissa and Ryushen come to mind.

>> No.22246799

>>22246708
hello fungus, how's box

>> No.22246803

>>22246729
they are going for the EU/early NA audience trying to gather the viewers that will funnel into Ina's timeslot

"ID" my ass

>> No.22246820

>>22246495
https://youtu.be/2AU4Fae32pg
https://youtu.be/WHUgx5qO_r8?t=1795

Just get a female model

>> No.22246840

>>22246729
huh? zeta started at 10pm and kaela 10:30pm jakarta time, while giving prime time to moona and anya, seems fine?

>> No.22246846

>>22246592
That ririmu model looks sick.

>> No.22246847

>>22246729
They had to delay because of their senpai stream

>> No.22246853

>>22246777
>>22246799
>caught lying like the holoniggers they are
>immediately start spouting shit
holofaggotry, not even once

>> No.22246860

>>22246551
They debuted when Nijifans were preoccupied with koshien and holofans with Holo5 but not head to head. I don't watch them so for all I know they are the best 5 vtubers on the planet.

>> No.22246863
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>>22246708
She dropped to 3view for a while now, you can check the VOD after.
She dropped 200 more after going to SC reading.
https://vrabi.net/video/uhpiXWe7Bbo

>> No.22246885

>>22246551
Gen 5 and selejo debuted at the same month and got announced at the same week, its hard not to compare them.

>> No.22246892

>>22246708
As if her peak is that much better.

>> No.22246901

>>22246803
Kobo was going to overlap with Moona but she move it back 2 hours because she said she wants to watch Moona first.

>> No.22246902

>>22246592
I *will* fuck Gilko holy shit

>> No.22246930

>>22246777
>>22246799
You retards could've actually just posted the graph instead, since she did drop to being a 3view while playing the game.

>> No.22246933

>>22246551
They got overshadowed by holo gen 5 debuts.
>5 high school girls with different hair color, designed to be part of an artificial group
vs
>snow elf, lioness, circus, notgintama chink and demon, each of them being unique by themselves

>> No.22246959

>>22246803
>Most of them are talking in ID
i dunno, anon

>> No.22246965

>>22246930
>>22246853
sadcope

>> No.22246980

Does your oshi have an Arabic account?
https://twitter.com/arabchronoir?t=SqaTzKFYnfVXVwp4l7jCrw&s=09

>> No.22246982

>>22246803
Stupid nijinigger. They delay their schedule because Moona is still streaming. Also it still 10-11pm GMT+7

>> No.22246992

>>22246863
>1,6k peak
She's absolutely destroyed during overlap, holy shit.

>> No.22247017
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*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>13,067: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,143: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,419: Amelia (Hololive)
>9,097: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,797: Vox (Nijisanji)
>8,376: Amelia (Hololive)
>7,821: Mori (Hololive)
>6,021: Mori (Hololive)
>5,380: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,106: Shu (Nijisanji)

>> No.22247023

>>22246980
Nani the hell.

>> No.22247028

Hiring Yugo for Nijisanji EN is the equivalent of hiring Lui for Holostars EN.
They just hired her because of her TikTok numbers, completely ignoring everything else.

>She's a woman, but let's give her a male model, not even an ambiguous one at that.
>She is japanese and can't speak english that well, let's hire her for our EN branch.

On top of that she has literally no experience at streaming at all and she seems clueless when it comes to technical stuff.

>> No.22247035

>>22246847
one of them could at least move it 2 hours earlier, but no let's overlap each other

>> No.22247070

>>22247017
EN Gold so far for April

1. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,476 (April Fools model swap featuring IRyS as Kronii)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 39,453 (April Fools 3DVR Variety Show)
3. Mori (Hololive) - 28,119 (Birthday Countdown and Call-ins)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 79,372 (Birthday 3D Live)
5. Gura (Hololive) - 40,764 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,375 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 14,677 (Kirby and the Forgotten Land)
8. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,640 (Elden Ring)
9. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,767 (Food Review w/Baelz)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,169 (Overwatch w/Ina, IRyS, Mumei, Kronii, and Amelia)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,067 (Vampire Survivors)

Hololive - 10
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

>> No.22247078

>>22247017
wang lost to kiara's shitpost, holy fuck

>> No.22247081

>>22247028
damn now i feel bad for her.

>> No.22247080

>>22247028
Lui actually does well though, all things considered.

>> No.22247099

>>22247035
I think it's because it's fasting month isn't it?

>> No.22247103

>>22247017
>4 holos over vox including fucking debuff detective and the fucking chicken
rumao

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>>22247017
>>22247070
kys

>> No.22247142

>>22247070
>10:1

>> No.22247153

>>22247131
kys

>> No.22247154

>>22247017
>Vox losing to Kiara
this has happend a handful of times recently

>> No.22247175

>>22247017
>>22247070
kys

>> No.22247192

>>22246992
>Yugo being destroyed by overlap
Happens more often than it doesn't now since she starts at the same time/after Vox.
It also doesn't help that she's just not a good streamer since she has no prior experience.
Seems more like a music hire than a streaming hire. It's actually kind of a miracle how Irys ended up being good at streaming and is arguably a more popular streamer than singer.

>>22247028
After hearing her voice, her model doesn't even look male anymore. Just looks like a tomboy.

>> No.22247200

>>22247099
I think that's the reason, yeah. So 7-9 PM JST is pretty much not viable for this month.

>> No.22247205

>>22247175
kys

>> No.22247209

>>22247078
Kiara has a latent fanbase that can actually come out when she's not playing JRPG part 10. And Vox spent months failing to build a base that's interested in anything other than coombait. So here we are. It'll only get worse as time goes on

>> No.22247220

>>22247080
Lui feels like a glue pick and she’s also a good networker like Koyori.

>> No.22247232
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>>22247017
>>22247070

>> No.22247255

Speaking of Yugo, how are the numbers of the Holostars reverse trap? Is she on par with the rest of her genmates?

>> No.22247260

>vox sub 6k
Well he's never playing this shit again

>> No.22247286
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22247286

Watch out Vox, ID's blue cunny is gunning for your spot.

>> No.22247302

Why do all the IDs hate Iofi that they are all streaming over her anniversary countdown karaoke?

>> No.22247309

>>22247078
Its not like kiara gets 9k anytime

>> No.22247319
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22247319

>>22247209
>>22247260
screenshot anon back again, the fujos are thanking him because they couldn't coom tonight.

>> No.22247325

>>22247286
10k

>> No.22247329

>>22247260
If he apologizes to the chink fujos tomorrow, that means he probably reads this general every day

>> No.22247345

>>22247028
Yeah, it is surprising they let such a bad ESL into their EN branch. Like she can barely communicate in collabs. I'm sure half of NijiID have better English than Yugo.

>> No.22247353

>>22247286
Jesas, Kobo is a real gem

>> No.22247354

>>22247078
Kiara's 9k shitpost is her highest solo stream in a long while that isn't a karaoke.

>> No.22247356

>post en paraolympics gold instead of the usual

>> No.22247363

>>22247286
Stfu and rename your screenshot before you post it.

>> No.22247381

>>22247329
Hes never apologized for anything in his goddamn life.

>> No.22247393

>>22247363
No, fuck you.

>> No.22247403

>>22247329
>>22247319
why are they mad? i dont get chink fujos

>> No.22247414

Kobo is sucking Iofi and Zeta viewers to incline, Jesas

>> No.22247424

>>22247354
Her first stream near NA prime time in a long time as well. She overlapped Ame’s Sim’s stream.

>> No.22247443

>>22247403
Wang made an abomination and called it his fanbase. Women don't like being made fun of.

>> No.22247447

>>22247356
tally anon can be instant at 1am but also take until like fucking 2am

>> No.22247454
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>62,239: Aqua (Hololive)
>40,178: Pekora (Hololive)
>37,222: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,491: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,635: Hal (Neo Porte)
>19,247: Miko (Hololive)
>17,765: Miko (Hololive)
>13,403: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,927: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,332: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>12,219: Mio (Hololive)
>12,100: Suisei (Hololive)
>11,347: Toko (Nijisanji)
>11,203: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,459: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,341: Towa (Hololive)
>10,091: IRyS (Hololive)

>> No.22247458

>>22247403
simple, they don't like being called ugly or even joked about in that way

>> No.22247457

>>22247302
Well she has no scruples overlapping other Holomem's events before so I guess turnabout is fair play.

>> No.22247466

>>22247403
>literally said he is recreating his fanbase in Spore
>made that monstrosity
You tell me.

>> No.22247484

>>22247353
They hire literal children for their young looking models save for one. Makes me wonder if they will try the same thing for Gen7/EN3/KR1

>> No.22247494

>>22247403
They aren't. This general is just shitposting- don't take it too seriously Spore gets boring near the end because its a bad game.

>> No.22247501

>>22247286
>5k already in just 10minutes.
Those are legit mid tier holo numbers she's pulling despite catering to the ID audience majority of the time. Yagoo seriously hit it out of the park with not just this hire but also the timing of their debuts (debuting after an incredibly successful HoloFes for ID 1).

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>>22247454
APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom

> PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
4x: Aqua
2x: Okayu, Pekora
1x: Hal, Calli, Subaru

>> No.22247520

>>22247484
>KR1
Anon???

>> No.22247529

>>22247484
>literal children
Anon, your reps...

>> No.22247530

>>22247454
king is being sandwiched by pekkers holy kek.

>> No.22247533

>>22247454
the only tally that matters

>> No.22247552

>>22247017
Looks like things are going back to it's natural course

>> No.22247560

>>22247454
12 holos
3 nijis
hal twice
top 10 7-3 for holos, holo gold
shout outs to the double placers today

>> No.22247577

Did Aqua do good during the tourney?

>> No.22247592

>>22247414
If Zeta can hold 3k while Kobo inclines to 6k+, that's very healthy for HoloID.
Legit better than NijiEN in NA times.

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>>22247454

>> No.22247601
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22247601

* NIJISANJI TALLY OF THE DAY *

>37.524: Kuzuha
>12.402: Yuki Chihiro
>11.459: Inui Toko
>8.980: Tsukino Mito
>8.844: Ibrahim
>8.797: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji EN)
>7.756: Furen E Lustario
>7.537: Hayato Kagami
>7.450: Fuwa Minato
>7.123: Kanae
>6.317: Sasaki Saku
>5.380: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji EN)
>5.173: Amamiya Kokoro
>5.137: Ars Almal
>5.106: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji EN)

>> No.22247603

>>22247484
I really don't understand how Kobo does this.
Voice, mannerism, even her temper are very childlike.
I don't think yagoo is that desperate that he resorted to hire literal children or worse, emotionally stunted woman.

>> No.22247616

>>22247520
anon is a dreamer, let him be.

>> No.22247625

Gura Vampire Survivors. Probably won't get 15k since it's past its prime

>> No.22247637

>>22247501
When in doubt, just debut a blue cunny

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maybe he should avoid spore from now on

>> No.22247657

>>22247601
mito really can't hit 10k anymore...

>> No.22247672

>>22247501
I don’t' know if it's true in ID but in a lot of Asian/SEA countries they can get super supportive of local products, as long as it's viewed as quality/premium. Holofes gave HoloID the stamp of approval so to speak, that their talents could literally stand on the same stage as JP/EN. Add new talents and a touch of nationalism and they had their breakout gen.

>> No.22247674

>>22247654
Looks like the fujos just decided to go to bed than watch.

>> No.22247680

Kobo 6k get

>> No.22247681

>>22247454
>>22247509
So the holo gold streak ends tomorrow right?

>> No.22247685

>>22247601
kys

>> No.22247713

>>22246708
>>22246863
Oh no no no, nijiniggers lie as they breath

>> No.22247727

>>22247625
You're actually retarded.

>> No.22247734

>>22247654
wtf are those duration numbers? vrabi bug?

>> No.22247747

Mumei getting 13k from an unscheduled game stream is pretty surprising.

>> No.22247758

>>22247681
King should get the gold unless Pekkers decides to stream ER again or something

>> No.22247767

>>22247681
>holo gold streak ends tomorrow right
I don't know, Pekora would have won gold today eating eggs anyway so wouldn't it be just up in the air?

>> No.22247766

>>22247734
When you click update, vrabi uses your local time to calculate the duration of the stream

>> No.22247778

>>22247734
yes, it's what happens when you use their built-in refresh function

>> No.22247798

>>22247672
That doesn't really happen with ID1 tho, ID2 showed some promise but unfortunately they were aiming for EN market.

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>>22247509
It's Toko going to be the top ranking Nijifemale this month because of these consistent morning streams?

>> No.22247805

>>22247601
You should use the silver medalist image when you post that tally, i dont think anyone can beat him normally.

>> No.22247808

Holy cheese Mori

>> No.22247829

>>22247767
The theory is that the apex tourists will go to king in the absence of startend

>> No.22247832

>6k and still going
kobo is strong as fuck

>> No.22247837

>>22247767
i mean, it's likely that the tourists go to king's stream and he gets a 50k or something

>> No.22247838

>>22247767
>Pekora would have won gold today eating eggs anyway
Eh
That's only because Aqua had a POV. They'll flock to Kuzuha now that she doesn't have one

>> No.22247839

>>22247070
Mysta is the new king

>> No.22247848

>>22247747
Combination of
>buff game (not as big as for JPs, but still a buff)
>no real overlap (it was only supa sunday)

Council almost always streams with overlap and Kronii and Mumei could easily be 10k+ streamers if they weren't self-sabotaging all the time.

>> No.22247855

>>22247747
hoomans are trained to be aware of guerilla streams anon. It's not surprising.

>> No.22247875

what dumb fuck predicted 4k for Kobo in the previous thread, literal retards.

>> No.22247886

>>22247829
That didn't happen on the previous scrims tho.

>> No.22247894

>>22247848
Mumei doesn't self-sabotage herself, though. That's almost exclusively a Kronii thing

>> No.22247907

>>22247886
It did

>> No.22247925
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22247925

>>22247803
Meant for
>>22247454

>> No.22247940

>>22247907
King literally couldn't break 30k iirc

>> No.22247953

>>22247894
>spongebob
>SC reading streams when she barely gets SC anyways
>guerilla streams with 30mins of notice
It's not as bad as Kronii tho

>> No.22247975

KOBO 7K

>> No.22247979
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>>22247601

>> No.22247999

>>22247758
ER number will keep dropping every stream she didn't maintain 30k today
the next time she probably won't even get 24k

>> No.22248009

>7k for Kobo
I'm going to fucking laugh my ass off if she beats Vox. Kek.

>> No.22248014

>>22247654
Spore is fun at the beginning when you are fucking around in character creator and boring at the end when it becomes a shitty RTS.

>> No.22248017

Jesas somebody stop kobo, riku do something you bastard

>> No.22248022

>>22247454
Strong day for top 5 to floor at 25k.

>>22247509
Hololive only needs five more golds to seal this month, it's over.

>> No.22248028

>>22247894
Watching Kronii's explosive start and then watching her deliberately and methodically kill her own channel was something else. I mean she just doesn't want it, that much is obvious now, but what could have been. I can't be the only one who is saddened by the missed potential, right?

>> No.22248036

>12th was to be a weak day for holoen
>gura schedules vampire survivors
Stop it, stop it, just leave one goddamn paraplegic gold for the nijisisters

>> No.22248062

>>22247654
is there a single game fujos like outside of the sims?

>> No.22248066

>>22247855
Her game streams typically don't do well though. Usually zatsus, art, and karaoke are her strong points. Games are maybe 7-8k streams.

>> No.22248076

>>22247829
I don't know, here are his APEX streams since February, sorted cronologically

>36606 :: 2022-02-02 :: 【 Apex 】 VCC出るぞ~ 【 with じゃすぱー だるまいずごっど 】
>26228 :: 2022-02-15 :: 【 APEX 】久しぶりのエーペックス 【 #ルザキン 】
>33655 :: 2022-02-15 :: 【 APEX 】新シーズンに適応せよ 【 ランク 】
>39182 :: 2022-02-16 :: 【 APEX 】大盛 【 ランク 】
>29176 :: 2022-02-17 :: 【 Apex 】Apex 3周年 【 with k4sen よしなま 】
>28706 :: 2022-02-22 :: 【 APEX 】 ぷらつないくぞ【 ランク 】
>20635 :: 2022-02-24 :: 【 APEX 】 目指せディアモンド【 ランク 】
>30359 :: 2022-03-12 :: 【 Apex 】エペデンリング【 ランク 】
>21906 :: 2022-03-15 :: 【 APEX 】らんくやりまs【 じゃすぱ だるま 】
>26156 :: 2022-03-28 :: 【 APEX 】 ソロプラクティス【 ランク 】
>39788 :: 2022-03-29 :: 【 APEX 】 いぶらひむのわくわく温泉カスタム【 コウ イブラヒム ウル者 】
>28711 :: 2022-04-01 :: 【 APEX 】 卯月コウのお前ら、いっぞ!カスタム 【 コウ イブラヒム ウル者 】
>30411 :: 2022-04-02 :: 【 APEX 】 ぴかぴか星空フェスカスタムに参加させて頂きます 【 コウ イブラヒム ウル者 助っ人:神田3 】
>30288 :: 2022-04-05 :: 【 APEX 】 ぴかぴか星空フェスカスタムに再び参加させて頂きます 【 コウ イブラヒム ウル者 】
>31050 :: 2022-04-07 :: 【 APEX 】 王山に参る 【 rank 】
>27301 :: 2022-04-08 :: 【 APEX 】 うるかこるちの遊びの時間は終わりだカスタム 【 イブラヒム 卯月コウ うる者 】
>37222 :: 2022-04-11 :: 【 APEX 】 トンネルを抜けるとそこは 【 V最協カスタム 初日 】

He's averaging 30k in those streams no matter what, which is par for the course for him.
I can see lots of other POVs picking an audience, like VGori, other Nijis and even Astel

>> No.22248077
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22248077

Look at that curve

>> No.22248086
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>>22247601

>> No.22248092

>>22247625
Gur can pull 15k on post game kirby. Mumei got 13k just yesterday

>> No.22248116

>>22248062
Minecraft was 10k yesterday

>> No.22248120

I cannot believe Boxsisters thought Wang would get 10k on Spore,

>> No.22248134

>>22248036
It's pretty clear HoloEN saw that screenshot. I don't think they took it all that seriously but I wonder how many privately thought to themselves, "you know what? Fuck those guys". Ame and Gura seem like the type to hold grudges

>> No.22248138

>>22247803
Surely looking like it, Toko is for April what Lize was for the end of 2021

>> No.22248140

>>22248077
She's honestly on pace to beat Box what the fuck

>> No.22248143

>>22247681
>aqua no stream
>the only way to win

>> No.22248144

>>22248009
Oh she will, there's no doubt about it

>> No.22248152

>>22248028
you're not alone, man. She was my oshi, and i was going to member even send her sc, i dropped her after realised she wasted her talent and potential

>> No.22248162

>>22248120
>voxsisters
not falseflagging holoniggers?

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>>22247601

>> No.22248189

>>22248077
HOLY MOLLY, is she going for 10k?

>> No.22248188

>>22247848
Mumei used to not have to deal with overlap, to the point where she’d be the only HoloEN streaming on Mondays. It’s just that being one of HoloEN’s guerrilla queens means that the others started encroaching on her timeslot.
>>22247855
This too. It practically became a meme after the first karaoke.

>> No.22248199

>>22248143
A win is a win

>> No.22248206

>>22248120
Can you quote a single post that seriously predicted 10k for Vox Spore?
Almost everyone with a brain knew this wasn't a big stream for him.

>> No.22248212

Kobo should stream 2-hour earlier for jp and the rest of seanigs. should be an easy win

>> No.22248226

>>22248134
Gura has been dodging drama since day one, she's probably at the point where she doesn't even remember any of it by now.

>> No.22248234

>>22248152
I don't get it. They know what they were in for right? Did she just get in her own head?

>> No.22248241

>>22248162
>Stream literally has his fanbase name on it
Anon, this would be a 15k stream easy if only Vox were a smart dude. Alas, he's as graceful as drunk elephant and as smart as one too.

>> No.22248242

>>22248226
J*y...

>> No.22248249

>>22248212
she's just a dumb child, please understand

>> No.22248254

>>22248199
>win
which one? >>22247070

>> No.22248262

>>22247681
hopefully, the longer the thread goes with no nijigolds the more deranged it becomes

>> No.22248265

>>22248134
Anon if you think professional vtubers think in terms of gold medals decided by /#/,or that debuff detective and Gura of all people care about numbers, you might be lost to /vt/ tribalism brainrot

>> No.22248273

>>22248134
Reminder that Mori unfollowed Vox that day, and re followed some time later. They 100 % know about it

>> No.22248272
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22248272

Here is the unified list of peaks for HoloID and NijiEN for the day
>pic related

Again, HoloID is surely looking more and more competitive with NijiEN, boys and whatnot.
It took Vox to save the honour for the branch and stave off a WHOLE LOT of shitposting that would ensue had he failed to fetch those 0.7k to edge Moona

>> No.22248278

>>22248212
Unfortunately, it's fasting month. So every ID isn't going to be free during JP prime time

>> No.22248285

>>22248134
>/#/ has convinced people that CCV ranking matters and that streamers actually care about it
Oh no no no

>> No.22248289

>>22248254
Why are you quoting the paralympics when I'm talking about the real tally?

>> No.22248295

>>22248028
I knew from the moment Kronii debuted that she was fated for a slow death. The people rejected my message.

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>>22247601
At times like these, i miss Bora's fat tits.

She wasn't even sexy on stream, just for and cute, but good lord, that model.

>> No.22248312

>>22247577
She had some good solo playes, but their teamplay is severely lacking atm.

>> No.22248321

>>22248242
>Still left in the VOD and unedited
Shork brain forgor and don't care.

>> No.22248320

>>22248289
wrong quote. win from which tally?

>> No.22248325

>>22248234
I think it just really fucks with her that most people like her for her model and voice. I only say this cause she really wants to make it as a VA without using Hololive connections.

>> No.22248340

>>22247577
No she got fucking bodied. Ironically the team with NijiEn won it but she wasn't streaming.

>> No.22248359

>>22248273
Ollie commented on Folger’s twitter and wished him happy bday and later deleted it.

>> No.22248360

>>22248285
I don't think that's what anon is talking, the comment was not "Council isn't getting the medals on 4chan retarded EN Gold" but a general criticism of HoloEN performance, be it numerical, technical or whatnot

>> No.22248373

>>22248312
Aqua's bloodthirstiness combined with absolute garbage Watson/Caustic + Crypto meta is working against them unfortunately

>> No.22248380

>>22248320
How about you check the posts I was replying to?

>> No.22248386

>>22248308
Onyon's tits aren't fat enough for you?

>> No.22248396
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22248396

>>22248028
>>22248152
Not a Kronii watcher, how did she kill her own channel? Genuinely asking. Always sad to hear about a successful VTuber not fully knowing what they're in for.

>> No.22248399

>>22248325
She hates how sexy her model looks. She would have been happier with something a bit more conservative like Kaela, probably

>> No.22248400

>>22248359
All that tells you is that they don't care but their fans do. They probably laughed about it privately.

>> No.22248406

>>22248285
Yagoo personally calls Riku every day to ask him what happened and why he slipped today. Riku could handle it until this thread started tallying EN and ID and now he gets 3 calls a day, it's nerve wrecking

>> No.22248418

>>22248360
Yeah no obviously they don't give a shit about ccv gold but if they had any thoughts of EN unity or collabs I think that might be dead for a good while

>> No.22248421

>>22248396
she doesn't stream regularly, and plays dogshit games, also doesn't do karaokes

>> No.22248432

>>22248273
Mori's the kind of retard who pays attention to that sort of thing and takes it seriously, Gura and Ame almost certainly laughed about it and forgot about it by the next day or so.

>> No.22248447

>>22248360
I find it dubious but if so based fulgur. Council needs a kick in ass.

>> No.22248463

>>22248380
oh, HOLOLIVE winning streak.

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>>22248140
>beat Box

>> No.22248475

>>22248432
I mean, Vox himself said that he's a mori fan. Of course it's personal for Mori.

>> No.22248484

/#/ is declining.

>> No.22248488

>>22248272
Yea. Holy man I was kinda hoping it'd happen just for the shits and giggles, but oh well.

>> No.22248500

>>22248421
I mean, that's just bad, it's not seppuku

Call me when she actively filters viewers from streams like Ame, who used to be EN vtubing's nr 2 in terms of ccv

>> No.22248503
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TOP KEK, neither Kuzuha nor Pekora are releasing their funnels to the other people playing APEX / ER.

Lots of 5hrs+ streams too on both companies

>> No.22248512

>>22248028
Has Kronii ever implied if she still has a job outside of Hololive? I feel like she doesn't even stream enough to have it be her full-time job.

>> No.22248525

>>22248396
Refuses to stream collab pov, minecraft or any fotm games. Also goes into 1 week menhera breaks most of the time.

>> No.22248533

>>22247803
Leeching off of Suisei really pays off.

>> No.22248548

>>22248140
Tick tock

>> No.22248549

>>22248512
she probably has at least 5k members, that's already a good enough salary

>> No.22248550

>>22248512
Even a nerfed Kronii is in the top 0.1% of vtubers. She doesn't have to do shit

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...

>> No.22248568

I hate Pekora so fucking much

>> No.22248581

>>22248512
No, she seriously just sleeps and plays games all day. Her other twitter is basically her continually saying that she’s depressed last I checked.

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22248583

>>22247601

>> No.22248600

>>22248475
Gura gets public fan statements from ecelebs every few months or so and doesn't even acknowledge them, Mori's just a moron with no real restraint.

>> No.22248603

>>22248512
Shed rather pursue doing VA work than Vtubing if i was to guess.

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>>22248568

>> No.22248652

>>22248548
How fucking sad is this? A voxfags seriously considering a win against ID.
What, can't compete on the paralympic so you go below that?

>> No.22248657

>>22248396
Ignore the doomposters. She debuffs herself almost every time she streams, yes, but in no way has she killed her channel. She got over 10k for fucking house flippers and sonic adventure 2, for fuck's sake.

>> No.22248678

>>22248134
There’s that stream shortly after where Bae said that you could build yourself up without trying to tear others down, so she could at least have heard it from Mori. Mumei also seemed like she was about to mention Nijisanji while talking about judgmental shitheads in her most recent members zatsu, but if the Amber rrat is true then that could just be about her antis being NijiEN tribalist doxfags.

>> No.22248690

If the tourists want to see startend, they might watch Hal's godview instead of the other players. In the practice games that startend didn't stream the only way to see was jumping around the other povs, but they don't have to in official scrims.

>> No.22248695
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>>22248396
>Her streams in the past month.
Look at that 17k Elden Ring stream and what she did for 2 weeks after getting one of the best non-Gura EN game stream numbers in a while.
All of her streams are also overlapping other Holomems.
I don't know why she has 2 SC reading streams anyways when she doesn't even get as much SC as Luxiem does.

>> No.22248696

>>22248603
Ina seems to have her head straight on this. She has a very successful PL account she still does a ton of work with. Her Hololive identiify also has a very successsful career as both an illustrator and streamer. She no doubt well aware the latter boost the former but doesn't seem to have any angst about it, at least that she makes public. Then again Ina was >>>>>>>> Kronii's PL in terms of success.

>> No.22248698

>>22247070
Not a single Vox gold. How do their fans expect him to win big gold when he can't even win EN gold?

>> No.22248700

>>22248600
Anon, Gura is an enigma. We know absolute nothing about her personal life. Mori on the other hand is a unityfag with a well-known RM

>> No.22248703

>>22248500
She came off as very half-assed and unmotivated, constantly experiencing technical issues and wasting time due to lack of preparation for streams and having meltdowns over Minecraft and generally giving people the impression that she just wanted to play video games offstream instead of streaming.

>> No.22248749
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Hahahahaha oh man this is such dogshit but as long as you fags accept the EN gold you'll have to suffer through this

*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>565: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>526: Margaret Winters (Cloud Horizon)
>340: HaiZ (Monstar)
>332: Amrzs (Monstar)
>262: Chilla Behemes (Storia)
Not one of the big names streamed and the top two were both SC readings...

>> No.22248753

Kill ranking
1 noa 23
2 akua 20
3 pakael 16
4 inu 16
5 albio 15
6 kuzuha 13
7 ren 13
8 reido 13
9 matuli 12
10 naraka 12
11 astel 12
12 ibrahim 11
13 kanae 11
14 hoshikawa 11
15 seto 11
16 meika 10
17 deron 9
18 towa 9
19 minase 9
20 rena 8
21 naruse 8
22 hinano 8
23 kou 7
24 arisu 7
25 sena 7
26 ema 7
27 reimu 6
28 kaida 5
29 hayun 5
30 shiina 5
31 forte 5
32 ratna 4
33 ars 4
34 社築 4
35 nazuna 4
36 gorila 4
37 niu 4
38 chihiro 3
39 nose 3
40 ririmu 3
41 chigusa 3
42 beni 3
43 akina 3
44 rin 3
45 kotone 3
46 suisei 3
47 met 2
48 nobu 2
49 sumire 2
50 risa 2
51 roberu 2
52 riri 1
53 himawari 1
54 axia 1
55 fuwa 1
56 mayuzumi 1
57 warabe 1
58 shiro 0
59 nayuta 0
60 yui 0

KILL STATS

>> No.22248771

>>22248695
hasn't gotten over 10k since the ER stream (excluding Irys boosting her numbers on April Fools), holy fuck this clock.

>> No.22248786

>>22248703
I mean she pretty much quit Minecraft because people were upset about work being done off stream.

>> No.22248793
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>>22248568
seethe

>> No.22248800

>>22248703
There was a weird stretch where she would play Minecraft for literal hours off stream and her members were begging for her to stream it. And she just... Didn't. Also had a chance to have a nice arc with Fauna and never really followed up. Light schedules, weird debuff content, it was just sort of frustrating. She's not doing badly, but she could've been much more. Her fan engagement in general is pretty weak

>> No.22248810

>>22248749
Where is vox?

>> No.22248816

>>22248698
Just you wait. All he has to do is suck cocks on stream and that'll be 100k ez pz. No one comes to Milard Wang when it comes to whoring themselves.

>> No.22248823

So many jealous 2views around here lately, no wonder other agencies are becoming anti-Holo

>> No.22248830

It's crazy that Vox's CCV is still right about where it was when he had 150k subs.

>> No.22248840
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22248840

>king of en
pfft
>en
pffft my sides

>> No.22248841

>>22248753
Huh, Noa and Albio team has quite a kill point.

>> No.22248847

>>22248800
I feel really bad for Fauna because she tries but never gets proper follow ups. Even in collabs she'll say something and people would just...not even if it's a low hanging fruit.

>> No.22248850
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Damn, imagine being a man looking to make something of yourself as a vtuber and you see these numbers.
Do you still apply for Cover?
It seems like a death sentence for anyone that has X and Y chromosomes to work under Cover.
Does Yagoo enjoy making other men's lives miserable with his bait auditions?
I feel really bad for existing guys and the new EN recruits.

>> No.22248856

>>22248810
Vox is CN.

>> No.22248861

>>22247017
Well,debut buff is finally over?

>> No.22248865

>>22248749
People here won't mind a TW tally or a KR tally, it's interesting and they're clearly not competitive with the main tally so it's interesting to see their numbers once a day
>EN tally tho

>> No.22248869

>>22248810
I've listened to his attempts to speak Mandarin and it'll be a cold day in hell before I include him

>> No.22248870

>>22248847
Irys was nice to her in the Mario Kart collab though, she needs to collab with Irys more often.

>> No.22248871

>>22248700
A Unityfag wouldn't unfollow and refollow over minor drama, Mori is an idiot who doesn't know how to separate her personal life from her career and one of the few Holos to fuck up in that area.

>> No.22248885

>>22248850
Here comes the Uproar deflection huh.
NijiENniggers is pathetic

>> No.22248888

>>22248840
Is this dude literally only talking about the game that he can't keep people interested? I don't understand. I know the game gets bad but usually it's not that hard to keep people around.

>> No.22248893

>>22248272
Wait did Nina only get 1.7k on a celebration stream, she really is just leeching of the boys huh?

>> No.22248894

>>22248847
Her genmates are too zoomer to get her references. Bae also has the issue where her genmates will talk about American pop culture and she just clams up.

>> No.22248900

>>22248830
That kinda happens with everyone to be fair.
Gura's CCV is the same as it was when she had 2 mil.
NijiEN girls in general haven't inclined much since their debuts.
The only way we can tell if he's reclining is when his subgrowth finally slows down since he's still getting 4-5k a day.

>> No.22248907

>>22248657
Like a month ago.
Look pal, I have nothing against her but the trend is downwards and almost irreversible. Kronii doing buff shit from now on wouldn't repair the damage.

>> No.22248911

>>22248847
Fauna seems to be carving out her own niche and she's one of the few vtubers Gura seems to favour for collabs. Her ASMR's get her very good views too. She seems to be gradually inclining. Getting 11K ranking fruit is pretty solid

>> No.22248918

>>22248893
No shit. She centered her whole channel around the guys.

>> No.22248919

>>22248753
>46 suisei 3
and people call Suisei bad when she's above 14 other players

>> No.22248920
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>>22248753
>1 noa 23
>2 akua 20
NOAH, I KNEEL!

>> No.22248933

>>22248695
>>22248771
>>22248786
is this your first month watching kroni?
she has good and bad weeks dpeending on her content. emoji watchalog was promised a long time ago and she finishes games she starts and has alwasy liked indie games. Her SC readings are aslo her zatsu.
>>22248786
everybody quit minecraft

>> No.22248943

>>22248830
>it's so crazy that Gura's CCV is actually LOWER now that she has 4M subs compared to when she had just reached 1M

>> No.22248946

>>22248749
You should see Thai numbers if you think that's bad

>> No.22248968

>>22248753
>gorila 4
oh shit what happened there?

>> No.22248971

>>22248871
WTF are you talking about? Since when there's a list of criteria on what a unityfag should and should not do? Also like I said, Vox is a known Mori fan and Mori's tech issues is somekind of sorespot for her.

>> No.22248972

>>22248272
Why group NijiEN with HoloID. Add NijiID and HoloEN if you are going to do this

>> No.22248990

>>22248847
To be fair to Kronii, Fauna is also at fault for the lack of follow-up, since she decided to fuck off from the EN server in favor of speedrun autism.

>> No.22248995

>>22248830
What's your point?
Pekora has less CCV now compare when she only had 700k subs

>> No.22248998

>>22248888
it's after midnight in east Asia, anon
it's not normal to hold your audience throughout the night

>> No.22249000

>>22248847
Sana needs to come back and reintegrate herself into the council, she absolutely would return fire instead of sitting there in awkward silence.

>> No.22249002

>>22248933
I understand you're a crony, but it's ok to admit that she purposely debuffs herself a lot. That's just a fact.

>> No.22249010

>>22248900
His sub growth has slowed down. It was 5k a day, and now it's 4k-5k.

>> No.22249013

>>22248850
Yagoo never gave up on the boys and as long as Shinove is still their manager, I can see them getting sponsorships and concerts.

>> No.22249015

>>22248850
Honestly, yes, If you have the talent to do so. Especially on music and gaming, you will get consistent viewers. But, personally I really don't want stars EN to be a thing.

>> No.22249017

>>22248753
Aqua and co are deadly in a straight up fight, they have issues with positioning and coordination though

>> No.22249028

>>22248698
Don't worry he'll get overall gold on the 14th.

>> No.22249032

>>22248990
>, since she decided to fuck off from the EN server in favor of speedrun autism.
No, she decided to fuck off from the server because no one would play even when she was on. She's said it herself she WANTS to go back to minecraft (server) but the server's fucking dead.

>> No.22249034

>>22248077
too ez

>> No.22249038

Anons, here is a question I'm curious about:
Why hasn't any JP or EN vtuber agencies been able to replicate the Hololive model?
At best, they either go for tye vshojo or nijisanji model. But none can copy the Hololive model.

>> No.22249039

>>22248968
Team heavy.

>> No.22249044

>>22248753
>Reimu 6
damn and she's even playing from NA with 200 ping
sasuga latina holokiller

>> No.22249055

>>22248830
Welcome to vtubers. Subs are not "I will watch every stream/archive", they're "I would like to know when you stream/upload so that I might decide whether I engage with that piece of content". Your mind will be blown to know a lot of active viewers aren't even subbed

>> No.22249066

>>22249034
made you sweat huh Voxfags?

>> No.22249073

>>22248907
>almost irreversible
You doomposters also said this about Sana, and then she just streams something that's not a debuff and boom, she inclined back to 4k.

>> No.22249074

>>22248971
Perhaps Unityfag is the wrong word, but unproffessional moron and the exception rather than the rule would be the better turn of phrase. Not acting purely on emotion on her work account isn't much to ask for, really.

>> No.22249091

>>22249038
They keep trying to chase a Gura to go viral, when what they need is a Sora + Fubuki pair to set the tone of what they want their agency to do and to moderate the group's worst menhera nonsense.

>> No.22249092

>>22248907
>Kronii doing buff shit from now on wouldn't repair the damage.
That's actually retarded wtf. Were you doomposting Aqua when she got 14k with RE8 a few months ago and saying she was washed up?

>>22248933
>is this your first month watching kroni?
No, that's the entire point of the conversation. Kronii has the potential to be a numbers monster for EN but she has been debuffing herself because of personal decisions since her 2nd week.

>Her SC readings are aslo her zatsu.
I know, I watch them.
Doesn't change that they're fucked for numbers the moment she labels them "SC reading" when a regular zatsu stream is an easy 8-10k for her.

>everybody quit minecraft
There have been tons of FoTM buff games that Kronii has ignored.

>> No.22249099

>>22247808

How is pink tism so popular again. Who allowed this to happen?

>> No.22249103

>>22248946
Oh the Taiwan numbers normally are pretty good this was just a particularly awful day like when a 25k ends up taking the main tally because everyone is having a day off

>> No.22249107

Someone needs to funnel to Kobo rn, she's been stuck at 7k for ages.

>> No.22249114
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22249114

>>22248850
kek, aren't you forgetting someone anon?

>Astel and Roberu competing toe to toe with Noctyx boys
Think about it: isn't this amazing?!

>> No.22249133

>>22249002
kronii aint gonna do weeks of buff content if she doesnt enjoy it.
is like the weeks were gura was ona an indie galore speedrun. She was finishing his cataloge of games these weeks i think only the card game is left but she has finished almost all the backlog that she started while streaming.

>> No.22249144

>>22249107
Zeta ending in 12 minutes.

>> No.22249153

>>22248396
Spams debuff games, doesn't stream a lot, rarely streams her POV in collabs, acts like a prude, rarely does anything creative, doesn't promote herself, acts like she's genuinely depressed a lot of the time, stopped playing her main buff game. And that's just what I can think of at the moment.

>> No.22249169

>>22248134
lol dont fool yourself anon

>> No.22249181

>>22249038
Trying to recreate a spontaneous natural phenomenon in an artificial environment, unsurprisingly it doesn't work out that easily.

>> No.22249183

>>22249114
I just posted the recent debuts, anon.
Otherwise I would have posted Vox's and Shu's streams, too and then your comparison would be pretty pathetic.

>> No.22249182

>>22249133
>but she has finished almost all the backlog that she started while streaming.
Thank God! I catch her streams on VOD but damn, for most of those games I just skip to the talking part at the end, I LOVE her voice but can't stand her gameplay

>> No.22249194

>>22248850
Why not? If you have talent EN stars guarantees you at least one debut with eyes on you. You get 1 shot to make it big, you can always graduate if you fail. And you also might get the opportunity to be one of the people that drags the branch out of irrelevance a la FBK. I would not apply for JP stars but EN? EN still had potential

>> No.22249197

>>22249039
shitters so bad not even gori can carry them? depressing

>> No.22249206

>>22249133
I get that but her schedule with the emoji movie and sc reading last week was such a borefest, holy shit tho, at least play a fucking game

>> No.22249212

>>22249074
Now this is dumb argument. We know Mori is a rather emotionally driven person since long ago. Also it's fucking twitter for fucks sake, it's not like they're in the middle of big project and Mori little temper tantrum has absolutely no impact on how Niji and Holo EN relationship.
If anything the fucking Vent Channel is more damaging and showed NijiEN lack of professionalism,

>> No.22249213

KAELA 3VIEW
>KAELA 3VIEW
KAELA 3VIEW
>KAELA 3VIEW

>> No.22249222

>>22248885
When I see posts like these I really understand why Cover is such a toxic envirnoment for men.
Holostars, poor Holostars...

>> No.22249227

>>22249091
Hololivers don't need to be moderated. MCAT is doing well without the "support" structure.

>> No.22249229

>>22249183
Wut? Aren't Shu and Vox from Luxiem instead of Noctyx?

Luxiem doesn't make Holostars to look pathetic, they make the whole NijiJP male segment to look pathetic as well

>> No.22249230

>>22247603
Anon. She's probably a 20yr old that is still living with her parents. Her last stream leak showed she still calls her mother Mommy. She was probably doted on and is still viewed like a baby. I say this because her stories about her parents being supportive about whatever she wanted says a lot. If she's the youngest, this kind of treatment wil never change even after she gets married.

>> No.22249239

>>22248749
Don't worry TW anon I still believe in the island chinks, give them a couple of weeks and they'll start beating the indogs

>> No.22249246

>>22249092
> Kronii has the potential to be a numbers monster for EN
that applies to anyone but people think that debuff content is somehow not needed for variety sake and the own streamer comfort.
>Doesn't change that they're fucked for numbers the moment she labels them "SC reading" when a regular zatsu stream is an easy 8-10k for her.
that was waht powerwash was for.
>There have been tons of FoTM buff games that Kronii has ignored.
because she decided to finishe her backlog.

>> No.22249249

>>22248850
Do you have any idea how much male deadweight niji has? People like to pretend niji males are automatic successes but the worst star has 10 times the views of the worst niji

>> No.22249272

>>22249222
kek, you won't find lots of pushback in this thread, being a numbers thread and all.
Is there anyone in this thread that still believe boys could thrive under Cover or girls under Anycolor?

>> No.22249289

>>22249222
They're doing just fine anon, hell in the last two month alone they got 2 sponsorship deals.
How much sponsorship "offers" did Luxiem get again?

>> No.22249291

>>22248753
>59 nayuta 0
>60 yui 0
What happened to this point fraud team?

>> No.22249293

>>22249032
She says that now, but back when she was doing speedrun practice streams, Mumei was trying to revive EN server activity, and it was almost always just Bae, Kronii, and/or sometimes IRyS showing up during her streams.

>> No.22249303

>>22248561
ofcourse
sana just needs to stream regularly to incline

>> No.22249322

>>22249249
>the worst star has 10 times the views of the worst niji
Only if you count NijiID because otherwise the lowest ranked Star only outranks pretty much Hajime

>> No.22249323

Vox still lives rent free here since his 1 global gold god damn

>> No.22249326

>>22248850
>Do you still apply for Cover?
Yes, if you apply to nijisanji, you become an expendable streamer because they debut a wave every 2 months. If you get into holostars, you just know you will still be relevant as a cover owned character and cover will keep inclining

>> No.22249328

>>22249289
SPONSORSHIPS DONT FUCKING MATTER
SC is abtetr more safe cash flow for a streamer

>> No.22249330

>>22249212
I garauntee the people themselves don't give a shit. The only thing they are worried about is fans being mad at it.

>> No.22249331

>>22248850
>red rectangle around a vrabi screenshot
I recognise you VSPO schizo, you changed up your bait finally?

>> No.22249336

>>22249291
Man APEX is a high variance game. That's part of the reason BR as popular: even shitters can have a good game/win sometimes. That means good teams can get dumpstered or have a "bad" stream easily.

>> No.22249344

>>22249272
Plenty of girls do great under Anycolor, better than boys under Cover.

>> No.22249364

>>22249328
roru rumao
what next? merch sales don't matter too?

>> No.22249370

>>22249293
Fauna made her autistic demand list but Kronii didn't act on it. Blame Kronii for killing the vibe.

>> No.22249372

>>22249323
We talk about Vox when hes streaming and when hes not streaming. When he gets bad numbers. When he gets good numbers.

>> No.22249374

>>22249322
>NijiID
Yeah well Anykara decided to fold NijiKR and NijiID into the main branch so they're unironically also just Nijisanji now.

>> No.22249386

>>22249344
>Plenty of girls do great under Anycolor
Anon, name a single one debuting in 2020 or after
> HARD MODE: no Lize

>> No.22249388

>>22249212
>Mori is known to be an emotionally driven unprofessional moron since before so that makes it okay somehow
It's nothing to do with the relationship between the two companies and entirely about Mori's role as a member of Hololive, she's an idiot who doesn't understand basic concepts of collective responsibility and how her reckless selfish actions affect other people in her company. Yes, this one specific instance is pretty minor, but it's just yet another example of her being feckless and refusing to control herself on a basic level that few others seem to have difficulty with.
>the fucking Vent Channel
>Whataboutism
They're both incredibly unprofessional, this isn't a mutual exclusive situation.

>> No.22249397

>>22249303
Sana should play minecraft again.

>> No.22249401

>>22249323
actually since "all out war" leaks

>> No.22249407

>>22249386
Furen

>> No.22249416

>>22249246
>people think that debuff content is somehow not needed for variety sake and the own streamer comfort.
There's a middle ground between spamming debuff content and playing it sparingly between buff streams.
Even Ame throws a few bangers in her schedule full of debuffs.

Kronii's schedules for the past 2 weeks have been horrific for numbers. The only thing that had a chance at getting good numbers was the OW collab and she didn't even stream it.

>because she decided to finishe her backlog.
No one made her start Inscryption before finishing Hades and Hollow Knight, but thank god they're over.

>> No.22249418

>>22249323
nijiennigger seethe again?

>> No.22249426

>>22249323
Who? Wang?

>> No.22249428

>>22249331
I use light background and I don't bait using Nijis retard.

>> No.22249430
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22249430

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes:
>8016: Moona (HololiveID)
>5707: Moona (HololiveID)
>5159: Moona (HololiveID)
>1292: Anya (HololiveID)
>1267: Mythia (Indie)
>1039: Chloe (Re:Memories)
>975: Bonnivier (Nijisanji ID)
>901: Mika (Nijisanji ID)
>866: Rai (Nijisanji ID)
>446: Andi (MAHA5)
>377: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>365: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>312: Tsuyu (Yume Reality)
>363: Siska (Nijisanji ID)
>270: Zen (MAHA5)
>224: Etna (Nijisanji ID)
>204: Xia (Nijisanji ID)

>> No.22249434

>>22249322
Don't forget Setomiya, Aizono, and that first wave girl that just got her 3D last month.

>> No.22249462

>>22249401
That line is so cheesy yet he intended it as serious commentary. I just can't.

>> No.22249467

>>22249386
>>22249407

>> No.22249472

>>22248134
I think it's just many members of holoEN return from major slumps that they happened to have a the same time. A natural cause of things that accidentally coincided with niji's unprofessionalism.

>> No.22249492

>>22248285
There's a difference between that and essentially calling half of your co-workers a failure.

>> No.22249496

>>22249462
It was Pomu that said it, not him.
Did you even look at the leak?

>> No.22249497

>>22249328
That's literally the exact OPPOSITE of what ever big streamer has ever said. I can't believe I'm biting this retarded bait.

>> No.22249500

>>22249407
Sorry, I clearly meant Furen, Lize debuted in 2019

>> No.22249517

>>22249206
If you check her roommate's old Twitch account all she ever really played were indie metroidvanias and puzzle games. I wouldn't get your hopes up for any non-debuff games.

>> No.22249526
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22249526

>>22248850
Why did this post bait so many replies? Are we gonna get a HomoEN /#/fag?

>> No.22249529
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22249529

Who's going to make EN vs ID tally now?

>> No.22249538

>>22249144
you said Zeta would be ending? Fucking funnel it.

>> No.22249546

>>22249430
Foursome with moona!

>> No.22249550

>>22249416
nigga is 2 weeks
unless she does it for 2 months people are ony setting themselves to be grudgeposted.
when she gets decent conent next time. it has been 7 months and kornii has operated in this way ever since then

>> No.22249564

>>22249538
Zeta is continuing.

>> No.22249568

>>22249538
She was the one who said she's streaming for <2 hours.

>> No.22249575

>>22249322
Nijinigger-kun, fucking Seto Miyako has the lowest ccv out of all the Vsaikyou participant. Lower than Astel and Roberu.

>> No.22249585

>>22249496
Yeah but I clearly forgot who said what. I was so distracted by real people talking like fictional sports commentators that I couldn't focus.

>> No.22249596

>>22249517
Yes and Gura rarely did karaokes in her PL, Ame didn't do creative streams in her PL, Mori didn't even stream in her PL, what's your point? It's her job to do it right. Come the fuck on.

>> No.22249599

>>22249492
Jesus christ so dramatic

>> No.22249600
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22249600

>>22249529

>> No.22249603

>>22249467
kek, see >>22249500, I mixed Lize and Furen for some reason.

Furen is the one sucessful girl debutting after Jan 2020, all others seriously underperform their senpai and the boys.
Of course that anon has a point: Holostars underperform the Holo girls in a completely different scale but the main point doesn't change
> very few people in this thread would expect a sucessful boy under Cover or a sucessful girl under Anycolor

If that's not common sense now it should be

>> No.22249611

>>22249529
why? they are not even fair to compare.

>> No.22249618

>>22249017
Not gonna help if suisei seems lost most of the time

>> No.22249632
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22249632

Anyone else find it incredibly strange that these's finally an ID streamer who doesn't pander hard to English viewers but is still able to get high numbers?
I had almost given up hope on ID being anything but EN lite.

>> No.22249646

>>22249575
Anon said "lowest star vs lowest niji boy"

>> No.22249648

>>22248603
If she can't keep up with vTubing she sure as hell wont keep up with VA work.

Getting up early to work at the studio.
Speaking for hours on end without break.
Smaller deals making very small money.

Vs.

Getting up late and streamer whenever she feels like.
Making her own schedule.
Speaking whatever and whenever she pleases.
Big, stable money from simps.

I get depression is for everyone but I'd be very grateful if I had a similar job.

>> No.22249664

>>22249227
lol

>> No.22249678

>>22249632
Yagoo is smarter, and more business savvy than Riku, more news at 11.

>> No.22249696

>>22249538
there's no funnel
already midnight in indonesia, the kids went to sleep

>> No.22249701

>>22249550
That's the entire point. Her schedules recently have been shit.
Is she going to have better schedules in the future? Of course, she's not graduating, but that doesn't change that her recent numbers are underwhelming for someone of her ability and it's because of her own decisions.

> it has been 7 months and kornii has operated in this way ever since then
Hence why we have been bitching about Kronii since her 2nd week and will continue to bitch about her wasting her potential until ... who knows.

>> No.22249723

>>22249696
fucking hell, MOONA, your kohai was too nice and couldn't get the 8k because of you.

>> No.22249726

>>22249632
Not strange, anon. Ollie killed their momentum but the demand has always been there.

>> No.22249728

>>22249646
Why even lie anon? You can literally see that he only said Niji without any further quantifier?

>> No.22249740

>>22247803
Please post more Toko

>> No.22249754

>>22249397
Yes, she still have that unfinished observatory project in EN server. Do zatsudan, impromptu collabs, explore and attract MC tourists. So many things to do

>> No.22249759

>>22249726
Yagoo looked at Ollie and set out to fix his mistake.

>> No.22249760

>>22249740
Fuck that leech.

>> No.22249775

>>22249696
Anon, it's fucking Ramadhan. This is the only month kids are allowed to stay awake late into the early morning hours.

>> No.22249776

lol Mori has been waiting for Pekora to end and funnel a bit to her for an hour now, but Rennala is fucking Pekora hard.
She seems way too undergeared for this.

>> No.22249794

>>22249430
What cutoff point do you for the time? Because Zeta got her peak (4853) before 1 AM JST.

>> No.22249801

>>22249726
Has it? No one ever watched NijiID, who I'm told catered to the local market. Only proto-EN Hana, and actual EN Mika.

Will be interesting to see how far it can go. There are a lot of indogs out there.

>> No.22249807

So all of Marine's studio dates to record for her big song reveal concert just got freed up, are we gonna get some sudden holo 3D streams in the next week or two now?

>> No.22249812

>>22249760
I wish I could

>> No.22249832

>>22249529
>Fauna plays spore
>Male viewers love the creation
>Vox plays spore
>Fujos hate it

>> No.22249836

>>22249801
They need an impetus like Holofes 3 did to HoloID. Sadly they will never have it.

>> No.22249844

>>22249397
>>22249754
Sana not streaming herself autistically building the skytower in Minecraft is in the top 5 worst decisions she's made as a Holo, and she has made a lot of bad decisions.
It's literally one of the highlights of the HoloEN server tours, but no one has footage of the building process since she did it mostly off-stream.

>> No.22249884

>>22249776
>Rennala is fucking Pekora hard.
Holy shit, are most holos really that pathetic at video games?
Is Botan's playthrough the only tolerable one?

>> No.22249900

>>22249386
HoloJP hasn't created any stars from 2020 onwards either so that's a silly comparison.

>> No.22249904

>>22249416
>No one made her start Inscryption before finishing Hades and Hollow Knight
she literally lost all access to her savefiles of that game after her old pc died. She later was able to recover them from the hd (she tried and failed to do it herself, but later a tech pro did it)
So she only recovered those savefiles after having started inscryption (and everybody forgot about it)

>> No.22249942

>>22249832
vox is rushing trough the game so any fun you could have with the game is gone.
vox is arelady at the civilation aprt in 3 hours,
in 3 streams fauna was still trying to make her abomination better.
Guy just sucks attrying to make things interesting by himself.

>> No.22249980

>>22249801
>NijiID
they TRIED to cater to the local market, but without the right marketing. if the rrat is true, all NijiID were hired because of nepotism thru their management.

>> No.22249987

>>22249884
Noel brute forced herself into Rykard's second phase with her dual wield mace build. She could actually beat him like that but she's underleveled and undergeared for it right now.

>> No.22250007

>>22247509
wait so
Is aqua going to beat literally all of Nijisanji combined this month? Isn't that kinda crazy?

>> No.22250009

>>22249942
Also, literally set out to make the personification of his fanbase, ended up with a dumpy monster.

>> No.22250019

>>22249776
>Rennala
>Undergeared

Rennala is fucking easy even undergeared

>> No.22250025

>>22249807
Did I miss some big news?

I don't know, most 3D streams are scripted on the main channel.

>> No.22250034

>>22249900
What's your definition of star? Would median higher than all of NijiJP females count?

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22250039

>>22249794
>ID tally anon is half-assing things again
Can't say I'm surprised, to be honest.

>> No.22250057

>>22250007
She doesn't have a stream scheduled tomorrow so King still has a chance

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22250058

>>22249832
truly based desu

>> No.22250070

>>22250025
Marine has the dreaded wuhan flu, the chinese virus, the yellow peril.

>> No.22250073

>>22249728
Just re read, you are correct, from the context I assumed it was implied he was talking about boys only

>> No.22250076

>>22249776
>Meteorite Staff + Rock Sling
If anything she's overgeared, that setup can destroy everything for the next 40 hours of the game.

>> No.22250078

>>22250019
Yeah I mean Ame has been doing far better than Pekora against Rennala and I'm not sure she even understands half of the game mechanics.

>> No.22250080

>>22250034
>What's your definition of star?
20k CCV
Remember, a double standard is in place.

>> No.22250086

>>22250025
she got rona, and this week was supposed to be packed with recording all the segments of her concert

>> No.22250088

>>22249632
who would have thought pandering to EOP when you already have EN branch is a bad move? not only they have to compete with their EN coworker, but they also have to fully understand EN culture.
Take Kobo for example. She's familiar with local comedy and local popular streamer meme culture, and you cant translate it to english. It will lose its charm, even zomkek and Reine rarely get high number nowadays

>> No.22250091

>>22249942
Wait he's already at the fucking civ stage?
He's skipped through literally all the good content that Spore has to offer.

>> No.22250104

>>22250019
>>>/v/ is that way anon, Go brag about how easy ER is and how you could beat all the bosses one handed while heavily drunk or something.

>> No.22250107
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>>22246443
*FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

- 11 April Peak Name Group
> 37,876 Veibae (EN VShojo)
> 9,351 Jingburger (KR Isegye Idol)
> 9,044 Gosegu (KR Isegye Idol)
> 6,302 zrush (CN Indy)
> 6,032 Shylily (EN Indy)
> 5,899 CodeMiko (EN Indy)
> 5,097 ( 3,127 non-raid) nihmune (EN Indy)
> 4,874 Nachoneko (JP Indy)
> 4,747 ( 2,250 non-raid) Yuzu (EN Indy)
> 4,566 AdmiralBahroo (EN Indy)
> 4,473 Melody (EN VShojo)
> 3,661 kson (JP Indy)
> 3,332 Saruei (EN Indy)
> 3,284 Bery Sihyí (CN Indy)
> 3,012 MurderCrumpet (EN Indy)
> 2,672 ( subathon day peak) OniGiri (EN Indy)
> 2,229 StarVTuber (EN Indy)
> 2,176 ( subathon day peak) Natsumiii (EN Indy)
> 2,140 Snow Hite (KR Indy)
> 2,069 Chibidoki (EN Indy)
> 2,061 ( 1,226 non-raid) Emikukis (EN Indy)
> 2,060 ash (EN Indy)
> 2,035 OkCode (EN Indy)
> 1,663 KendoMurft (EN Indy)
> 1,385 radiyu (KR Indy)
> 1,380 Karubi Akami (JP Indy)
> 1,378 Limes (EN Vinesauce)
> 1,205 Lumituber (EN Indy)
> 1,139 Shibuya Hal (JP Neo-Porte)
> 1,120 Rainhoe (EN Indy)
> 1,072 Onyu (KR Indy)
> 1,068 BuffPup (EN Indy)
> 1,018 rh_ryu (KR Revolution ENT)

>> No.22250105

>>22250019
Amelia had a +2 shitsword and still almost killed her like twice playing like an absolute donkey. Upgraded it at the behest of her hounding chat and 2 shot her

>> No.22250121

>>22249794
>>22250039
>Zeta got her peak (4853) before 1 AM JST.
NTA but you guys are dummies, she started after midnight and go in tomorrows tally

>> No.22250128

>>22250034
Top tier streamer like Pekora, Gura or Marine. HoloJP's last star was Coco, they've not been able to recruit anyone good ever since.

>> No.22250139
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22250139

>>22249794
probably based on vrabi

>> No.22250142

>>22250086
>>22250070
That sucks. I guess it will be a slow April as far as 3D goes. I do wonder when HoloX will debut. Surely in the summer.

>> No.22250149

>>22250088
>rarely
fag, Reine was getting 2-4k CCV lately

>> No.22250150

>>22250039
>1 am JST
Retard-kun...

>> No.22250167

>>22249603
All the waves with females after Meifu have been cursed, all for different reasons and yes mostly because of Anycolor's fault
>KiraMeiro
Well we all know what happened with Meiro and losing her one debutmate didn't exactly help budget Kanata
>Selejo
Dumb theming for a bunch of girls that weren't that close and didn't act like JCs, quickly overshadowed by Holo gen 5
>Lain
Put in totally the wrong model for someone with a cute rather than cool voice, being in a gen with 4 guys put the attention on them not her
>Ranunculus
Debuted literally as Holofes was going on what the actual fuck were they thinking, their VTA origins made it feel like not a true debut
I'm not going to defend Anykara and their many retarded decisions but taking all that into account there's no reason in theory that a new Nijifemale debut in 2022 can't do well if the company can actually stop being fucking stupid and do their debuts well

>> No.22250174

>>22250107
>Jingburger
kek, that's a funny name

>>22250139
See >>22250121, stream started after midnight JST

>> No.22250189

>>22250107
this model is really good fap material, but I still hate Vei

>> No.22250198

>>22250107
I assume the numbers are from TwitchTracker?
It's weird how it missed two whole thousand viewers from Veibae's stream since I remember seeing 39K+ viewers at some point.

>> No.22250205

>>22249884
Ina improved to the point that she parry locked Draconic Tree Sentinel and can basically stomp over Crucible Knights and Morgott if she doesn't try to practice parry because it's like crack to her.

>> No.22250213

>>22250128
Lololol. Go back and actually see what Coco's median ccv was. Coco had a lot of impact on the vtuber scene. Her ccv was nothing special

>> No.22250236

>>22248603
Her voice acting video for her birthday had "please hire me for Persona 6" written all over it.

>> No.22250247
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22250247

how do you guys explain Vox's decline starting from when he started creating his Kindred?

>> No.22250253

>>22249529
ID with the casual niji'en' mogging

>> No.22250270

>>22250088
I mean you can not pander to EOPs and still end up failing, just look at Iofi.

>> No.22250273

>>22250205
So, if you are not into watching someone hitting their head against a wall for hours, is Ina's and Botan's playthroughs the recommended ones when it comes to Hololive streamers?

>> No.22250283
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22250283

Full Holo-Niji 2022 Q1 median of peak CCV chart will follow soon after it's finished but here is something to help you guys to continue your little "girls under anycolor" discussion. Meet
> The "Roboco Line"

Roboco is the lowest ranked HoloJP in this table, so this represents a comparison between NijiJP girls and HoloJP girls counting from the lowest point

>> No.22250289

>>22250270
the difference is Iofi is fucking boring though

>> No.22250294

>>22250213
I didn't even mention CCV you retard, those are fake numbers.

>> No.22250296

>>22250121
NTA but the cutoff point for both the overall tally and the paralympic has always been 1 AM JST, tho? And since her peak happened before 1 AM, that counts for today.
But I guess if you Indon wanna follow your own rules, then whatever floats your boat, I guess.

>> No.22250297

>>22250142
Judging from past gens they should be getting it around the end of this month but who knows, it might end up being a little later since they were so busy with Holofes

>> No.22250299
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22250299

>>22250091
yup
guy just doesnt have the creativity or zatsu skils to carry this kind of games.
he is just tlaking about the game.

>> No.22250303

>>22250198
yep, twitch tracker had that peak.
https://www.twitchtracker.com/veibae/streams
I saw people were writing that it passed 39k but i didn't see any pictures above a 38k and it doesn't change the top.

>> No.22250318

>>22250128
>HoloJP's last star was Coco
no lol

>> No.22250335

>>22250273
Probably. Kronii was shaping up to fucking shit on the game with magic summon cheese to point she 3 shot margit but she stopped after 1 stream.

>> No.22250340

>>22250247
The more noticable decline started from midnight forwards so I assume his asian audience is heading to bed.

>> No.22250344

>>22250294
Then the fuck are you defining as a star? This is the numbers thread not my meaningless opinion thread you insufferable faggot.

>> No.22250364

>>22250294
Your criteria is wack retard. That doesn't leave any spot for chuuba like Suisei or Aqua that managed to top the chart years after their debut.

>> No.22250370

>>22250283
I'm honestly shocked Roboco even has a 3k median.

>> No.22250386

>>22250296
Wouldn't it make more sense to cut it off at midnight Indo time?

>> No.22250398

>>22250364
Suisei and Aqua didn't debut in 2020 you dumbfuck.

>> No.22250399

>>22249323
gonna cry? don't shit the thread then

>> No.22250406

>>22250370
Numberrot man. Checkout what 3k average streamers on Twitch were making from the leak. She's doing fine, which is probably why she doesn't give a fuck

>> No.22250412

>>22250299
>>22249942
I'm surprised people actually watch him in this thread, I thought he was just a numbers freak because he found fujos to pander to
clearly he's doing something right if people are bothering to check his streams out

>> No.22250414

>>22250273
Kronii's single ER stream is hilarious if you're into that.

>> No.22250424

>>22250270
i dunno about her recent stream, i used to check her stream, and like Anya, she like to speak in Japanese a lot. Cant blame her though, she's the first gen, my guess is she's trying to get some attention from the nips

>> No.22250454

>>22250412
numberfags literally watch streams just to post about them in this thread, they don't watch streams to be entertained

>> No.22250457

>>22250296
>NTA but the cutoff point for both the overall tally and the paralympic has always been 1 AM JST,
It STARTED after midnight, meaning it goes in the next day tally.

It started on the 12th, doesn't make sense to enter the tally for the 11th

>>22250386
People use the JST to keep the tallies lined up

>> No.22250459

>>22250296
Let it go, anon. In the end, that ID tally is just there for Indogs to gloat over HoloID's numbers.

>> No.22250461

>>22250299
Kinda like Sana who basically just describes what’s happening in the game?

>> No.22250468
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22250468

>>22250174
It is a good name, and exactly that.

>> No.22250473

>>22250414
Both the stream and the seethe it generated were high comedy. She should do more streams like that honestly

>> No.22250491

>>22250344
If you define something like a star from pure statistics you are absolutely retarded and autistic, there are so many intangible qualities to a title like that and Cocock's graduation tour and how much it affected everyone in Hololive proves far more how big she was than any median CCV chart ever could

>> No.22250498

>>22250344
Popularity, what else? Name one holoJP that debuted in 2020-21 that's considered to be hugely popular on the same tier as even Mori.

>> No.22250511

>>22250412
i watch some of the boys jsut to get context on their streams and see what fujos like
only ones i avoid are uki and luca. the former becasue GOD HE I SO BORING the later becasue for me he is like a twitch streamer parody. i still watched most of his birthday stream just to see if he did something interesting for his numebrs.

>> No.22250513

>>22250412
We numberchads check streams in order to explain the chart fluctuation
We would literally watch a dick or dildo challenge so we could pinpoint the moment the insertion happens and how it's correlated with the chart peaks

>> No.22250524

>>22250398
That's why I called your criteria wack retard-kun. They are only getting bigger and bigger since debut until they're exploded from 2020 onwards, yet since you only specified debut they don't count.
See how stupid that is retard?

>> No.22250526

>>22250296
What are you on about? Streams that start after midnight always go on the next day's tally. The 1 am thing is something completely different.

>> No.22250528

>>22250461
Yes, Sana is a bad streamer too.
There's a reason why her numbers are disproportionately worse than her peers ever since debut.
At least Vox gets pretty good peaks and SCs.
They're not alone, there's many vtubers who are bad at streaming.

>> No.22250532

>>22250273
The first half of Ina's playthrough is basically her ramming her head against the wall for certain bosses because she played with an unintentional handicap of using an under upgraded Uchigatana for a while. Other than that she's the most competent player second to only Botan even with the initial handicap but she ends up getting impressively skilled and appropriately equipped when she gets to Altus Plateau and Leyndell.

>> No.22250542

>>22250498
Popularity by what metric? Or are we supposed to give a fuck about your feelings or something?

>> No.22250551

>>22250412
anon nobody in this thread watches streams

>> No.22250568

>>22250461
kind of but im amzed the amount of dead air vox has sometimes since he is SC depenedant to talk to chat.

>> No.22250571

>>22250498
>Popularity
>But not by CCV metric
retarded nigger.

>> No.22250609

>>22250459
Yeah, I guess expecting Indogs to follow even simple rules like cutoff points is already expecting too much from them. Welp, just gonna ignore it from now on, then.

>> No.22250616 [DELETED] 

>>22250473
Yeah, Sana is like the only holo EN I seriously shit on. The others may have faults, but the hiring of Sana still makes me a seethe a bit.

>> No.22250620

>>22250213
Which shows why ccv isn't what defines a star, anon

You could scrap Subaru, Marine, Pekora and Suisei from company history and do less damage than scrapping Sora, coco, aqua, korone or fbk

>> No.22250631
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22250631

>>22250283
Conversely, here is the comparison between the Holostars and the NijiJP boys.

This and that shows that each company has their strong point with Anycolor doing massively better with boys and COVER doing massively better with girls.

>> No.22250634

>>22250609
If you don't even know what the 1 am cutoff means, why are you even here?

>> No.22250647
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22250647

>This is the definition of a superstar

>> No.22250655

>>22250542
>>22250571
>no nendoroid
>no life size statue
>no Universal Music contract
Call me when they get even a single one of those

>> No.22250684

>>22250620
damn so Subaru, Marine, Pekora and Suisei have literally not influenced or changed Hololive at all?

>> No.22250687

>>22250655
That reminds me, those pop up figures have been in limbo for a long time

>> No.22250698

>>22250370
Roboco saw a modest incline in these past months, not sure what exactly caused it but I welcome it. Roboco is too soft and content to remain in her comfort zone to incline further.

>> No.22250714

>>22250631
damn pizza papa also has the highest streaming hours of anyone in Cover. honestly hope they pop off this year

>> No.22250715

>>22250616 (me)
oops wrong reply

>> No.22250717

>>22250655
you will never get nippleporn anon, who cares about those

>> No.22250719

>>22250684
Including Suisei in that group makes it hard to tell if this is just a retard or bait? There's enough schizos around here it's hard to tell

>> No.22250732

>>22250283
Tribalism, doomposting and shitposting aside should Nijisanji do something extreme to reverse their recline as a company or should they just accept that they are heading towards a future where they are a smaller company?

The worrying part is not that they are not the number one company in the industry anymore. If they were growing but not as fast as Hololive I think they would be fine, the problem is that they are reclining massively while the industry is growing, it just doesn't make sense.
>Hololive is growing.
>Vshojo is growing.
>VSPO is growing.
>More JP and EN corpos showing up.
>Nijisanji is the one of the very few companies that are neither growing nor remain stable but reclining instead.

I've seen people in this thread before trying to handwave the issue saying that "it's fine they are still doing "good enough", they don't have to worry" but to me that sounds like people either being too delusional or just getting defensive because they perceive the critism as doomposting/shitposting.

>> No.22250740

>>22248850
200 - 500 ccv is enough for you to make it as a streamer, also Stars guys get money from membership, merch and streamlab donation. If you compare Stars with other noticeable indies and small corpos you will see they are doing not good, but not too bad all all. Also, many people do vtubing as side gig, it's not always like they really need financial help. I'm not sure if Aruran still doing his other job, but the fact that he streaming full time proving he can living off very well with his small viewerbase.

>> No.22250745

>>22250719
ok if we don't include Suisei. Subaru, Marine, Pekora haven't done shit for Hololive?

>> No.22250747

>>22250461
Sana at least keeps talking and has opinion on the game deisgn and the story of the games. she did a lot of comparision with other kriby games for exmaple on her latest kirby
vox is...not that techncial neither as chatty since there isnt many sc going and sc is what he needs to chat. When i said vox is jsut talking about the game is just those few comments about "we doing great" "ah they attacking me traitor" and that kind of shit, nothing like sana or any other streamer. is just an uneventful stream and not a lot of opinions or interesting things to say.

>> No.22250765

>>22249632
>Blue Cunny Buff
That was it. Not only cunny, or just blue, but BOTH. She isn't ID's Gura Killer, she is actually ID's Gura-lite

>> No.22250766

>>22250687
Not really. Figures take forever to design, prototype, then mass produce especially in the last few years of supply chain hell

>> No.22250770

>>22250684
No anon, that's not what I said at all
Apply yourself

>> No.22250774

>>22250655
>nendo
This isn't a special thing retard. Even fucking Vshojo has them.
>Life-sized statue
What stupid arbitrary criteria is this?
>major label
There are plenty utaite out there that has contract with major label retard.

>> No.22250788

>>22250609
Indogs Holofags acting no better Nijiniggers, what else is new.

>> No.22250793

>>22250620
Suisei is a horrible example since she's integral to the music part of Hololive.

>> No.22250795

>>22250732
don't worry, milord's cock is holding nijisanji up

>> No.22250801

>>22250745
Not as much as EN

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