/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I wait for the day they all move back to NND.

I dont know why they dont make a random channel to upload all this kind of shit

>>2219862
How does Nijisanji get away with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA_PMHSmY3w

>>2220016
connections.

>>2220016
The YT management has probably directly warned Cover because Hololive is becoming fucking big.

And they run the EN/Western branch. Niji has yet to have it.

>>2220016
Niji too irrelevant for YT to care.

>>2219862
Is Hololive ever going to stream on their own platform? Having an entire business that relies on Youtube not being fucking gay has to be stressful.
They also wouldn't have to surrender a huge chunk of supas to Google.
I know it's harder to get people to watch on a platform that isn't youtube but I think if any audience could do it it would be vtuber audience.

>>2220016
they are irrelevant for YT

>>2220016
Niji is less reliant on YT monetization than holo, so they don't go as far as them to please the advertiser overlords

>>2220016
Irrelevant to the west.
Will get the same treatment if they start gaining popularity in the west.
>>2220260
Yagoo mentioned in a January interview that they've been working on their own platform.

>>2220260
Twitch was this for gaming tho. Look how it turned out.

>>2219862
She doesn't say anything about YouTube censoring it, why are you lying? As you wrote she just says that they haven't had swimsuit streams since gen 3 because of YouTube and she wants to try it out on NND. It's just Cover being pussies afraid to get demonitized which is why Nijisanji gets away with it. That's why the swimsuit streams haven't been deleted.
https://youtu.be/cixwWYetd7I

>>2220260
Cover can barely manage the tech stuff they have as is. I doubt they have the resources available to also run a video hosting site.

>>2220260
They could have a patreon for exclusive saucy content. Or they can open an odysee account and post prerecorded content there especially the bikini and lewd asmr

>>2220016
one is relevant in the west the other is not

>>2220331
they dont have to do it, they just have to pay for it

>>2220260
>FOTM game stream but now you have to pay to watch it.
Yea that sounds pretty terrible. Maybe if they upped the quality of streams. and no more stupid restrictions on content

>>2220354
They don't have that kind of money either.

>>2220332
>dividing your platforms
Pretty sure the IDs having streamlabs is only due to insistence, because txt.

>>2220325
>Cover being pussies
Checks out. Remember the chama.

>>2220378
we dont know

>>2220114
>Youtube
>Warning Cover
You have the power dynamic reversed anon, Cover is a huge boon to the streaming service YT barely has. They caved and let Haachama have all of her gore infested lore reuploaded by cover with 0 chance of it being censored, filtered, or removed.
After the last major YT event where Korone and others went to Twitch to stream "until YT behaves", YT fixed their shit quick, fast, and in a hurry

>>2220391
IDs are on streamlabs because Youtube doesn't see the Indo currency was good/stable enough to warrant it being on superchats.

>>2220406
based Lamy blackmailing yt higher ups

>>2220391
>>dividing your platforms
they'll follow for lewd/erotic/nsfw content

>>2219862
Why don't they just stream their swimsuits on pornhub?

>>2220396
Can make a fairly educated guess based off public financial data.

>>2220518
Why stop there? stream naked

>>2220578
Aki/Matsuri already do bathtub streams.

>>2220598
I want to see them stream with their nude models though

>>2219862
Price of pandering to eops

>>2219896
>NND
Enjoy getting kicked out of the stream in favour of a premium member.

>>2219862
MEANWHILE
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nude+hyoga

>censors
Wouldn't it just get flagged for age confirmation? What's the problem with that? Cover can't handle all their content not being for all ages?

>>2221398
YWNBJ

>>2221437
As it should be.

>>2220016
Backed by Sony money

>>2221505
Anime tiddies are a big no, anon. We have to protect the children from those evil chinese animes!

>>2221529
YouTube keeps shadowbanning their channels or with ASMR straight up banning them (Aki).

>>2222250
>just got boosted by Kiara
>gonna lose it again on the next ban
Aki...

>>2222274
Aki generally sticks her ASMR to members only or twitcasting now because of what she had to go through.
Choco uses a sub channel sometimes.
Mel still gets shadowbanned every once in a while for existing.

>>2220260
They probably could invest in that but it would be insanely expensive, especially if they archive each stream like they do now. Even Youtube has been operating at a loss for a long time.

>>2222409
If they ever did, I could see them only using it for lewd/ASMR/special streams to reduce the load.

I think even if the leaders of the VTuber industry banded together to create a VTuber video platform, it'd probably not be financially worth it. It's still a pretty niche industry.

>>2220520
explain me then, how much can they afford to invest without taking a loan

Nijisanji literally did a cunny 3D debut a while ago that would awaken one's inner pedo tendency but nobody bats an eye.
https://youtu.be/NTXb-UWEPtY

>>2222829
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>2220260
>own platform
>expects one company to create a streaming platform as smooth(overstatement) as youtube
lmao that would get shitty real quick

>>2222829
cause no one cares about them outside of japan

>>2220215
I'm conflicted on this statement
>>2221437
240p lets fucking goooooo

>>2221505
2d good anime bad

>>2222829
irrelevant to the west. No sjw, trannies, twitternigs stirring up.

>>2223048
Is this the one that got upset that she didn't get enough twitch subs after a day of streaming?

>>2223542
Yeah. I recall her youtube and twitter were banned for a while after that.

>>2220215
>>2220285
>>2220301
>>2222874
>>2223048
Youtube don't act in things because they are popular in the west you fucking retards. There's a thing called youtube japan, which is from there where they get those warnings and problems in the first place.

And imagine saying Nijisanji is irrelevant when their vtubers on youtube are the only ones who can surpass hololive vtubers in viewers.

>>2223597
Hololive board

>>2219862
I can already see Mel and Choco being forced to hide their cleavage again because mutts are allergic to anything slightly sexual.

>>2220260
Imagine Cover creating their own video upload and streaming website and using Hololive to promote it, I wonder if it would take enough traction to make people turn their heads to it.

>>2223597
nijicope

>>2223862
Don't kid yourself. Their 3D tech which is suppose to be their main thing isn't even good. What's make you think they're competent enough to do streaming platform?

>>2223933
yes

>>2223933
Neither is Google but they succeeded by pure momentum.

>>2221529
YT got the bright idea to auto flag content as for kids, when some of the videos really aren't.

if you added every hololive member's sub count they wouldn't even be in the top 100 channels

>>2223862
Heard of this?
https://watchnebula.com/

Even with multiple big youtubers, it barely gets used much. They have to promote their own streaming site by saying "more exclusive videos on our very own website!".

>>2224001
The thing is google actually have a lots of money to burn and despite youtube being suck, it's still one if not the best out of bunch video uploading site out there.

>>2224017
doesnt change the fact that they are keep getting shadowbanned for no reason

>>2224019
Instantly lost interest the moment I saw this.

>>2224015
Always gives me a bit of a chuckle that an unofficial upload of the Gundam SEED Destiny English dub is marked as kids content, with the main character's family being brutally killed from stray beam spam in the first few minutes

>>2224103
Servers ain't cheap. If Cover launched their own site, it would almost certainly be paywalled.

>>2224017
Yet, they're growing fast.

>>2224017
If you added every hololive member's superchat they'd still be top 100 because they are top 100.

>>2222829
Unfortunately, Hololive became too popular in the west and we all know what whatever the west touches, it turns into shit. Nijisanji is safe from that for now.

>>2224017
There's probably so much overlap in the subscribers that the total count wouldn't go past 4 million.

>>2224246
you could say the same about every other vtuber company

>>2224268
I'm not implying otherwise. Just seems more pronounced in hololive, like everyone subs to most of them but only watch a couple favorites outside collabs.

>>2224330
>like everyone subs to most of them but only watch a couple favorites outside collabs
maybe you but at least I dont know anyone who does this, they only sub to what they want to watch

>>2223597
>There's a thing called youtube japan
which has less people than normal youtube.
Thing is Niji is irrelevant FOR THE AI

>>2224197
who gives a shit about superchat numbers. literal pennies to youtube

>>2219862
youtube is a gay piece of shit site that should be destroyed

>>2220260
>Is Hololive ever going to stream on their own platform?
I always think this is a terrible idea except for this particular group, it could even extend to hosting other vtubers as well.
The problem is that cover being fucking stupid pieces of shit with terrible management they would manage to end up being a lot worse than youtube or twitch in many ways.

>>2225101
Anon, Ina is an artist, even if she graduates you can bet she'll still be hired for a lot of projects and you'll be able to follow her work for many many years.

>>2219862
It's all the transgender people in youtube management that cause this to happen. Fucking hate trannies. They ruin everything.

>>2220260
>I know it's harder to get people to watch on a platform that isn't youtube
Have you ever tried watching via NicoVideo?

>>2220260
mixer...

Search naked yoga on youtube
The double standard is ridiculous.

>>2220016
Not the answer you want to hear but it’s because Nui is too based

>>2224136
>paywalled
If it were only for a little bit of exclusive content it could work, but they already have nico for that so what's the point? Moving everything to a paywalled platform would instantly kill Hololive's popularity.

>>2223597
>Youtube don't act in things because they are popular in the west
they have and they do

>>2225532
Nico takes a shit ton of time to buffer on the other side of the pond. I can't even begin to fathom how shitty would the stream quality be even in low-latency mode.

>>2220425
>Youtube doesn't see the Indo currency was good/stable enough to warrant it being on superchats.
Bullshit, Argentina's currency, despite being the endless nightmare of instability that it is, is still available for SCs, see the guy who send an orange SC to suisei the last time she played Fall Guys because of that dumb board meeting meme on go-back-land.

>>2224019
>>2224103
>>2224136
There's got to be a way for the arabs, the emirates or some other country from the middle east to open up a streaming service that could be magically backed up by oil money or some other similar resource.

It's unironically the only way for them to be freed from the stupid rules of the crystal gen without too many compromises, politics aside.

>>2226457
>Wanting help from the UAE oil barons
That sounds like one hell of a monkeys paw wish.

>>2220260
480p

>>2219862
Any /g/entoomen around to team up and build our own vtuber streaming platform?

>>2220016
Less well known worldwide when compared to Hololive.

>>2220425
Indo's currency is unironically stable though. Rather it's likely because of tax laws or something

>>2224330
If that was true there wouldnt be such big gaps, there's probably 100% overlap on EN, and most of the 1M+ club JPs have their shared pool but everyone below that is probably individual subs

Wait wtf Kanata want's to do swimsuit stream? for real?

>>2220325
Im OP but the line "Youtube君が思春期" is an alternative expression of "センシティブ" which is the jargon used among Holo JP members implying the sexual contents banned by Youtube. Which is nothing but censorship. They arent anonymous shitposters so ofc they dont blatantly clarify the details, but still this is the first actual official statement (leak) about Youtube from a Holo JP member. Needless to say, she obviously knows way more about whats going on there than you.

Also she has obviously been annoyed by YT, not by the Holo management. She rarely expresses serious irritation like "まったく、、、" = ”Come on...". "大丈夫じゃないでしょ!(もし水着着たら)収益はがれちゃうよ” = "Not okay at all! (If I wear swimsuits), Im gonna be demonetised ", and she asked the Holo management to do it on Nico.

they could be creative and just rename it to naked yoga. seriously search that up in youtube. NSFW.

>>2238451
Meanwhile on niconico https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33965027

This would probably get flagged and deleted on upload by YouTube's AI.

>>2220016
nijifags mass report Hololive videos all the time. Hololive fans don't stoop to their level, 3D cunny stream is proof of that.

>>2220260
>Is Hololive ever going to stream on their own platform?
Do you understand the necessary logistics?

>>2219862
>>2240093

>>2220260
hosting videos is extremely expensive because of their massive size even when compressed and meme sizes keep getting support like 8k, that's why anything that isn't youtube is much more restrictive with upload limits, data cap and paid plans to get full access, it's fucked

>>2234183
Of course anon. Those girls aren’t pure virgin idols, you know that right?

>>2225483
Is this ironic?

>>2220260
> Is Hololive ever going to put themselves into massive debt in order to run a service they don't have any expertise in and that nobody but them and their existing fans will use, cutting themselves off from the exposure that Youtube gave them through their algorithm and userbase?
No.

>>2241177
Not to mention it would have to compete with Youtube in terms of world-wide availability, and youtube is propped up by one of the largest tech companies in the world.

>>2238451
> Which is nothing but censorship
Their platform is their property. They don't owe you to serve content they don't like.

>>2241034
No.

>>2241307
Calling it a platform immediately discredits your opinion, however.

>>2241307
typical corporate dick riding sjw. full on greedy capitalist

>>2241307
>Youtube owning 80% of their respective market
>Hurr durr just fuck off to another platform
You're not wrong, but that still doesn't exclude you from being a bootlicker.

>>2220425
IDs are on streamlabs because Youtube doesn't see the Indo currency was good/stable enough to warrant it being on superchats.
Yet I see a MASSIVE 1.000.000.000.000 COP red spacha. Sasuga Susan you retarded troglodyte

>>2241307
Member when people were anti-corpo?
Pepperidge Farm remembers

>>2224229
YWNBJ

>>2241468
I'm essentially criticizing people for their authoritarian mindset, and that makes ME an sjw? Do you really not see the irony here?

>>2242396
>>2242542
Then what are you proposing? Do you want the government to force platforms to host any and all content? Seriously, come up with an actual argument instead of just going "hurr durr bootlicker, corporation bad".

>>2241455
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
"YouTube is an American online video-sharing platform". First sentence of the wikipedia article.

>>2241468
>>2242396
>>2242542
MUH FEE FEES

>>2243959
Maybe you're confused why I pointed out the word "platform?"

>>2221748
corporate bootlickers like you deserve the fucking rope

>>2221505
What in the fuck, it's not even age restricted, and it also has a fucking enabled sponsorship? What the fuck is wrong with youtube?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWDTdXH6oF0

>>2240587
Yeah but all the Holos only stream at 1080p though. Can you even stream above that on YouTube? Add technical hurdles like Kiara trying to play a notoriously unoptimized game at 4K, full screen, on Ultra, with VSync off, or Noel unga-bunga-ing her GTA:V settings so hard we saw she was playing at 720p...

Twitch would be a huge improvement. They won't ban for 2D swimsuits whilst harboring the world's e-thot "gamergirls" unless one of them drops some CodeMiko level yabs in English.

>>2242609
Struck a nerve, sow?

>>2244747
Communists like you should be holodomor'd

>>2244855
Twitch won't ban thots, but they sure as FUCK will mess with Holos.

>>2244855
>Can you even stream above that on YouTube?
Yes.
Besides, local videohostings are a thing but they are garbage when you try to watch them from another country. And since Hololives audience is spread out over the world they would need to have a distributed infrastructure which is much harder than just a streaming platform.
And how to judge the point at which they should have moved from YouTube? They could've done it let's say, a year ago thinking that's all there is and never get to the size Hololive has now. You don't know if there's more room to grow on the platform and moving to your own service cripples that growth significantly.
They already can do streams that will be banned on YouTube on NND, and that's the quality you can expect from their own solution if it were to happen.

>>2222829
THAT'S IT, I'm a nijinigger now.

>>2243915
>I'm essentially criticizing people for their authoritarian mindset, and that makes ME an sjw? Do you really not see the irony here?

the fuck are you even talking about. you totally rationalise a globohomo big tech dominating one global industry and abusing their own power. you are the authoritarian faggot. amazes me that you amrimutts lack self awareness this fucking much

>>2245876
Your argument would've worked if selectively banning bikini streams could be considered power abuse. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

>>2245960
so you are a typical sjw puritan and a fucking liar. knew it ofc. enjoy your chinky moral superiority and jealousy, amerimutt gender neutral fatfuck

>>2246037
t.ran out of arguments

Seethe harder

>>2245170
is there precedent of this?
tia drew a lewd of herself on stream and nothing happened to her
shadman also streams his work there

>>2220260
Part of the hololive success is how their clips and livestreams get recommended so much according to the youtube algorithm though.
It is both a blessing and a curse

>>2246095
purely retarded amerimutt sjw tranny. you are one of those typical npc puritans like the posters on /co/ having a shitty calart avatar on their twatter profile, so you just rationalised youtube being authoritarian and puritan. sjws are always like that. support sjwtube and ban hololive. i wont really stop you.

>>2243915
>>2245960
>>2246095
>A-Atleast it's not the government

>>2225716
Search for brazilian or pelvis waxing.
Nothing erotic about those videos but close ups of vaginas everywhere.

I fucking dare holoturds to start their own streaming site. Pewds has 100mil subs and not everyone knows who he is. Go ahead and spend all of that time and resource to putting up a site just for your brony-tier niche donation farmers

>>2220406
>korone and others went to twitch
When was this? Any links to that content?

>>2219862
There is nothing puritan about JewTube
They simply want you to lust over the shit they approve.

>>2220260
They should just partner with dlive

>>2245876
Fun fact: America has anti-trust laws specifically to deal with uncompetitive practices. You know, like a giant multinational dumping money into an unprofitable streaming site purely to maintain a monopoly on and editorial control of broadcasted online speech.

If you break YouTube away from Google and they have to endear themselves to paying customers, the market would effectively solve the Youtube Problem on its own via capitalism.

>>2219862
Then why nijis have no problems if it's Big Bad American Tech? Recently they've done a BDSM stream with a loli in a swimsuit being abused.

bump

>>2221437
>linking your 4chan Gold account to NND for the new integrated features that hiro put in
newfag

>>2263156
Because major of their fan is Japanese and Japanese Youtube gives a fuck about westoidcuck unlike hololive where 2/3 of their fan are from oversea

>>2240623
PPT is a sweaty idolfag that gets depressed when someone she likes gets married

Fuck this gau Earth. The same hysterical suburban white women who ran the violent video game/TV show/movie smear campaign in the 80's and 90's are back at it again, but under the guise of "freedom for women" and whatever dumb shit the MSM and left are spouting now. The middle class white woman has almost always been the problem.

>>2262584
Fun fact: Massive companies directly influence new laws and changes to old laws.

>>2272126
Oh, you mean like the fact that certain sites can easily wipe everyone away under the guise of 'private company' and then tout that they have verified sources for important things and should be taken seriously? Or the fact that those companies can operate normally while any smaller one has to shut its doors for 6+ months and jump through 300 hoops to just get half the revenue they were getting? Who woulda thunk.

>>2243915
>Then what are you proposing? Do you want the government to force platforms to host any and all content? Seriously, come up with an actual argument instead of just going "hurr durr bootlicker, corporation bad".
Jewgle & friends only stay in business because of the obscene amounts of tax dollars and anticompetitive legislation that keep getting passed their way under the table. If they're getting tax dollars, they ARE the government and need to be held to the standards of a government.

>>2269756
In english, please.

>>2274192
I think they meant to say that because of the language barrier, it doesn't make the rounds to the usual suspects who shit all over and mass report shit like that. Hololive having a large English base thanks to clippers, EN, and ID make them more known group and easier target for the faggots who love to police things (i.e. suburban middle class white women).

>>2245170
Why would they? So long as you don't show genitals or play copyrighted songs you can do whatever on twitch

>>2274384
And what did they expect? It's a well known fact that anything japanese that gets big in the west ends up fucked in multiple ways. See: games, manga, anime.

>>2275155
They're just pointing out why Nijisanji might be able to get away with much worse under what is technically the same guidelines.
In relation to the Supa's and moola that Hololive rakes in, how is it comparable to those other goobers who do streaming on youtube? Is there a numbers fag who has stats on Hololive donations vs everything else on the platform? If there's a huge gap, it might prove that shitty companies like Google are not in it for the money, but rather for the control.

>>2275387
Double-checking the stupid youtube superchat site, fuck jewtube. Why would you actively look to hinder something making you money day in and day out if it wasn't because your shit politics were getting in the way of your business?

>>2275387
If the past decade has shown us anything, it's that these giges will operate at a loss to peddle their shit. Money is only real to plebs like us.

>>2262584
If you break Youtube from Google it remains effectively a monopoly, just slightly less powerful at harvesting and cross-referincing personal data. What brings you to a video is most of the time another video, the content they sell is simultaneously the most effective advertisement for that very content. It's like owning a road that is only connected to other roads you own, once somebody puts a car on it you are never gonna lose that customer unless they are equipped for off-road driving.

>>2273874
Monopolistic and anti-market strategies are profitable and effective even when you are not getting government money.

>>2219862
Oh my gosh the level of racism and anti semitism here is almost as bad as a Coco thread

>>2278502
Maybe you should wake up and realize that the world is run by a select number of people. Interesting that there's a much larger section of the uber-wealthy who are left leaning. I wonder why that is...

>>2278569
>left leaning
Holy shit lol. Imagine thinking YouTube is targeting Hololive for their conservative values

>>2273874
you daft cunt, go sleep it off before i tell yer mom

>>2254255
She didn't actually go but Youtube was malfunctioning for basically everyone resulting in Miko doing a couple streams on Twitch and enjoying it and even being clipped and featured on Twitch JP's twitter account. Korone then mentioned on Twitter something like "hmm, maybe I should stream on Twitch too"

>>2262584
Isn't Youtube and Twitch's problem largely due to them having to appeal to as large of an advertising base as possible? They're trying to endear themselves to paying customers through staying advertiser-friendly. Their paying customers just aren't us.

>>2278616
I wasn't you little faggot.

>>2278975
>largely due to them having to appeal to as large of an advertising base as possible?
Not in the slightest. YouTube and Twitch are effective Monopolies. Advertisers need to compete for them

>>2278975
Sadly YouTube and twitch are in the “too big to fail” stage. It will take a while until they’re essentially replaced.

>>2223597
>Youtube don't act in things because they are popular in the west you fucking retards.
you're right, they act based on what's trending in america

>>2262584
the anti-trust against google is probably going to fail. biden administration isn't going to care about pushing regulations against social media through when they're acting in the current establishment's interests now.

>>2279030
The two adpocalypse Youtube went through says otherwise.