/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22177885
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>22177465
I know backseaters deserve the rope, but you try not backseating Irys's ER streams.

When she couldn't beat a boss because her weapons were totally underleveled and she couldn't upgrade her weapons because she was missing the most basic material, she just went "oh well", when chat was spamming at her that she can literally buy an infinite amount of that material from a vendor.
Like I get she's skimming chat to ignore the backseating, but sometimes it's just good advice for a great game with dogshit instructions.

>>22177642
Naw her numbers are actually very consistent. She just always overlaps with someone instead of getting a uncontested timeslot like Ina (not like overlap affects Ina ER anyways since it's that strong).

>>22177642
Nah. She's been getting around the 8-9k range for ER consistently. She's stubborn though, and really wanted to brute force her way through AGAIN, the boss is a pain to try and bleed, which is how she's been able to get away with low base damage for so long. Thank god she instead spent the rest of that stream actually going around Caelid collecting shut and getting upgrades.
>>22177980
Oh, I see someone had the same thoughts as I did.

I remeber when kiara did a gartic phone collab with some "artists" and some of them flopped hard. That was odd ngl

Towa 10k get

>>22177980
>muh uncontested timeslot
Ina grew one of the worst possible timeslots into something where she's the second biggest CCV average. Every time any other holo walks into that shit they get slaughtered. Its not "Holo fanbase has no choice but to watch Ina" when it comes to that timeslot, its "people go to that shitshow of a timeslot to watch Ina".

>>22178050
toblerone...

How did Hololive able to succeed in this market?
Was Nijisanji's decision to pull out a mistake after all?

>>22176405
>Is HoloID inclining after all?
Here is the chart for HoloID, per gen, going all the way back to mid 2020.

They're inclining, not as strong as when ID2 debuted and PekoMoona and NNN was boosting ID1 but all three gens may all end up ahead of a 2k median

>>22178160
Hana....

>>22178160
>slow and steady

>>22178160
>hana macchia
christ

>>22178160
Hana

>>22178200
ccvid on august? wasn't that on end of dec 2021 to jan 2022, hence the sudden decline

>>22178160
Hana, the Risu of Nijisanji

>>22178071
Fauna does pretty okay in Ina's timeslot actually.
Kiara just gets shit numbers there because she streams shit content more often than not.
The problem with the EU timeslot has always been ceiling anyways. There's only around 20k viewers in that pool.

>>22178213
>>22178297
she's the e-girl chuuba right?

>>22178160
Blame Hana for not using her found fame to catapult her branch into relevancy and choosing to shoot herself in the foot instead

>>22178200
Anon, you forgot to edit the CCVID shading between graphs....

>>22178160
Hmmm, I notice Siska is playing a Moba. Is she planning to have a collab with ID3? If so then she's smart.

>>22178358
Yes. And an all around general bitch. People got tired of her shit.

>>22178160
id only got big for leeching pekora

>Lui getting mogged by Kiara
>Reine hot on her ass
Man..Gen6 was supposed to be gen 3 2.0

>>22178160
I have no pity for Hana. She was given a golden ticket for herself AND the rest of NijiID but flushed it down the toilet in favor of 'keeping it real'.

>>22178160
Before HoloEN, Hana was one of the popular chuubas. sad she didn't do anything to maintain it

Holotori stream seems to be working out really well for Reine

>>22178488
And yet Pikamee, another one of the few chubas dedicated to the EN audience, inclined.

Damn. Towa is playing with APEX Gorilla

>>22178488
>>22178462
Hana gets EXACTLY what she deserves.
She also shows that 'being based' in public is usually pretty dumb.

>>22178424
anon, lui has been shit from the start
also try watching her, she's like flare but worse

>>22178200
>>22178310
>ccvid on august?
>>22178372
>Anon, you forgot to edit the CCVID shading between graphs....
kek, true, I increased the date range but didn't move the CCVID.

Here is the fixed one

>>22178488
What is with that elitist attitude anyway?

>>22178509
For a multi POV collab, it's great numbers all around

Luca made USD 44.2K for birthday streams thats crazy.

>>22178588
Yeah my man its quite pogu pog pog.

>>22178576
Fame got into her head. Nijisanji ID was very toxic too during that period. I heard people here saying they shitted on Risu when Hololive wasn't popular back then.

>>22178554
You know, with reports that "ID is still culled" being thrown around, I actually think there's some merit to it, given the polls we've seen and the continued depressed median there even after it 'got fixed'. ID didn't really recover very much from CCVID until a new wave of unculled viewers + Reine ER helped drag the numbers back up.

>>22178588
>>22178624
i'm going to gouge my eyes out after i'm done pushing my spine back in

>>22178648
Now HoloID is the biggest ID vtuber group, with many sponsorships coming in.
Really stupid of Hana.

>>22178424
Gen 3 didnt get their popularity over night. It's a built up efforts that piled up overtime and beared the sweetest fruit of success

Mumei is the true NijiEN killer, alongside Kobo.
Blue and brown women strong

>>22178588
Is it though? Koyori got $52k and Nene $58k, I was told Luxiem made as much as the top JP holos?

>>22178377
Kaela is only playing LoL tho. Dunno about Kobo but she's at least playing Wild Rift as well. Is Siska playing any of those? That'd be neat to see their moba collab ngl.

>>22178588
It's insane, but not like THAT insane for a Nijimale actually.
The most insane part is Nijimales generally don't get much on normal streams and their fans splurge on birthdays.
Luca's fans splurge a lot on his normal streams already AND he's still getting $44k on his birthday. His merch sales are probably crazy too if his fans are this willing to throw pointless SCs at him.
I don't understand how he and Vox aren't trapped in SC reading hell like Chloe was.

Man holox is turning out to be another gen 5. Laplus is hard carrying the gen.

>>22178780
>Kaela is only playing LoL tho.
Huh? How could they got the permission for that? Isnt LoL chink's game?

>>22178730
>Gen 3 didnt get their popularity over night.
They also didn't have more the 140k holofag watching their debut

>>22178807
>don't read them all
???
>profit

>>22178588
what is with those tags btw lmao. is that for youtube's algorithm? if so, that is so scummy

>>22178839
Everyone can stream LoL at any time, most Holos just don't.

>>22178807
Luxiem's SC patterns far more closely resemble Hololive than Niji JP males

>>22178779
let them have this one anon, they're Goldless on April..

>>22178807
>His merch sales are probably crazy too
Too bad anykara doenst give them merchs to sell aside from those shitty keychain

>>22178656
Yup, like EN I feel they both have inclined immensely off recent content and that’s masked the CCVID issues both have. There’s still some awful problems with it still looming (Mori and Gura’s channels missing anywhere from 30-50% of their live viewers, ID having been stuck in the 1-2k range for a long while yet polls would be met with 100% participation in 2-3 mins) but we can only hope that shit gets fixed one day, all these talents don’t deserve this bullshit they’re dealing with

>>22178836
There's nothing wrong with gen5 or Holox but I do enjoy seeing the retards talking all that mad shit in their honeymoon period brought back down to earth.

is gen5 schizo trying to switch targets?

>>22178424

>>22178730
Oh please, don't pretend people weren't calling them the next gen 3 based on their initial numbers. By this logic anyone can be the next gen 3 as they slowly earn their success

>>22178377
anon she's been playing dota2 since before ID3 debuted, doesn't really matter though, rai (galilei) is the resident LoL player

>>22178160
>How did Hololive able to succeed in this market?
It's all in the friendly, family-like feeling the girls have and give, the managers know what they're doing.

>>22178867
That's holobuff. Having a successfull debut stream didnt instantly turn them into a good streamer nor it gave them a strong fanbase. Those things took times to built throught various lucks, efforts, and arcs

>>22178779
I mean, shitposts aside, that's certainly more than any HoloEN will be making this year for a birthday, most likely, since don't think Gura will get near as much as she did last year.

>>22178939
Always.

>>22178891
come to think of it... you are right >>22113425

>>22178424
>>22178836
>be chloe
>supposedly the most popular holox because muh subs
>7k for potioncraft
>be mio
>runt of her gen
>12k for potioncraft

>>22178984
>By this logic anyone can be the next gen 3 as they slowly earn their success
Yes. Anyone could, but not many are willing or went wrong with their strats

>>22179029
bro Bae made $187k first day her merch was on sale and that's excluding SCs tf you on about

Aaaah, all this bait because guess what, holo won again

>>22178895
Luxiemfags are overjoyed with the generic Niji bday merch they get anyways.
Like these women are pissing themselves over tapestries and acyrlic stands lol.

Luxiem is years away from getting unique merch like Kuzuha, but merch sales are still sales and a Tapestry is like $30 last I checked.

>>22179025
The fuck is arc? Do you Hololive fans think this shit is anime?

>>22178905
Meh, CCV is ultimately pointless from a monetary standpoint. Views and watchtime (the YT metric, not the meme one) are the things that matter thanks to YT premium and ads. It's unsurprising then that since it doesn't affect the money coming in AND they get the real numbers, that Cover would prefer to stay silent over causing a public issue.

>>22179136
How fucking new

>>22178836
>Man holox is turning out to be another gen 5
Here is the chart for JP4, JP5 ad JP6.

When considering the whole gen they're all converging into the same ballpark: 8k-8.5k median for each of their gens

>>22177903
>>22177905
lol please never change

>>22179114
Sorry, I meant from an SC perspective only.
Also it wasn't 187k, it was 87k for day one wasn't it?

>>22178509
She IS the best artist there.
She even memes it up sometimes.

>>22179103
look at my digits
she's getting culled AIEEEEEEEE

>>22178160
What's everyone talking about with Hana? The only yab I remember was her dad getting political. I completely forgot about her.

>>22179025
Holokek is so delusional

>>22179114
NTA, but your Bae numbers are wrong (She didn't pass $100k yet in the last update available) and I'm actually pretty certain Luca sold more of his shitty generic Birthday merch than Bae did.
His fans are way more insane and generous than brrats are and they don't care that it's just a tapestry and keychains, they're buying that shit regardless.

>>22179149
You say that but I'm certain the 50% slash to CCV affected Myth's growth HARD. They were riding high and tourists fucked off when they saw them at half power all of a sudden. That shit affects VODs too.

>>22179062
then aquapex scrim begin... no more gold for the next week

>>22179103
>Mio in a relatively open timeslot
vs
>Chloe in primetime

>>22179305
not worth it anon, just let him tire himself out

Havent been around for couple of days. Anything worth mentioning happened?

>>22179336
I felt i needed to point it out ONCE for the tourists and lurkers who don't check context.

>>22179344
HoloEN got fucked

>>22179344
niji still trash as usual

>>22179344
Nothing ever happens Kamitsubaki anon

>>22179296
this are your feelings anon
why are you replying with your feelings

>>22179062
Is there a possibility that the Nipples are going to be beaten by Neopolitan in April?

M-Milord... ;-(

>>22179391
Yeah, by me

>>22179296
>Luca sold more than Bae
I'm going to assume you have proof to back up your statement?

>>22179391
All by me

>>22179344
>SC anon is dead, he hasn't posted at his usual time
>Assorted graphs for March with rolling averages posted thanks to chart anon, do archive reps to find them
>First Elden Ring gold FINALLY, from Pekora (No, ER schizo wasn't right, he was wrong on so many things)

>>22179344
nijisanji keeps losing so the baits are getting more unhinged

>>22179296
That's why Cover merch strategy is fucking failing for HoloEN since no one can afford their merch.
NijiEN cheap merch is a much better thing for a foreign branch since even poor people can afford to supporr him.

>>22179344
It slipped

>>22179484
You're a fucking idiot

>>22179471
>First Elden Ring gold FINALLY, from Pekora [redacted]
WHEN I SAY ELDEN RING SCHIZO YOU SAY

>>22179484
>NijiEN cheap merch is a much better thing for a foreign branch since even poor people can afford to supporr him.
PAGING NIJICOEP LIST ANON

>>22179484
Merch costs aren't the problem, shipping ones are

She's been playing a lot of games that Holos play.
Would she do well if she transfers to Hololive?
I just want to see her happy...

>>22179531
GO EAT A DICK YOU SHITPOSTING FAGGOT!

>>22179484
>since no one can afford their merch
Myth keeps selling out..

>>22179445
Just check Nijisanji main channel member stream dumbass. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

>>22179547
AAAAAHHHH YAGOO PLEASE SAVE HER AND LET HER PLAY WITH PEKO

Subaru is bleeding viewers really hard

>>22178050
>Ren isn't streaming her pov
She's pretty much the runt of VSPO at this point.
Maybe she's ok with that, still gets 1k+ at times but need to take these chances.
Also, funny for Towa to be the the one with the highest voice for once.

>>22179445
No proof because we'll never know the actual sales numbers for both.
Just making a logical assumption based off of fan behaviour.
Are you going to try and argue that Luca's fans are not more insane and generous than Bae's?
Luxiem's White Day merch outsold ManjisanjiJP's White Day merch and it was the same shit (Tapestry, Voicepack, acrylic stand).

>>22179545
well that was free
https://rentry.org/nijicoep

* today's Niji JP stream over 10k plus Mito *
10k is for grown ups?

>>22179579
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>>22179547
Niji members are doing this as a side job. They don't care about having low views since they enjoy it anon.

>>22179626
good numbers!

>>22179378
VOX is the best and most popular ENVtuber by far - it's not even close. Look at his superchat numbers. He can get 10k on a fucking minecraft stream. Luxiem has been outstanding even with luca only getting 13k CCV, he gets 43k and gets trending on twitter. Again, Biggest EN fanbase.

>>22179484
Anykara properly knows what market is watching their talent. You can't have merch that people from 3rd world countires can't afford.
They can get high roller superchats from rich asian countries like Taiwan, Japan and such, and sell cheap merchandise to filipinos, malays and indonesians.

>>22179626
>Just making a logical assumption based off of fan behaviour
Add it to the nijocoep list

>>22179406
Guess i didnt miss much
>>22179471
Ah! I'll do my reps with the graphs
>>22179498
>>22179475
As per usual i see

>>22179547
SHE ALWAYS WATCHED HOLOLIVE ARK STREAM, AIIIIIIIEEEEE TANIGO SAN IT'S TIME!

>>22179646
Here is a pic to illustrate it

>>22179344
No gold for Nijis yet. They've been crying a lot lately.

It's an hour until close of play, where's that NijiEN gold you promised me, /#/?

>>22179547
Nobody playing that shit since 2020

>>22179171
Jp4 is basically just Watame with a bit of Towa

>>22179698
Classic Nijimerch cope

>>22179674
>>22179698
Stop beating around the bush and answer the question.
Based on what we've seen from their SC numbers, are you going to try and argue that Luca's fans are not more insane and generous than Bae's?
No offense to Bae, but she's not getting bus ads for her birthday.

>>22179794
>are you going to try and argue that Luca's fans are not more insane and generous than Bae's?
Numbers?

>>22179720
Let's be real, there's no NijiJP fans here. It's all NijiEnkeks and their retarded baitposting. What few NijiJP fans there are on the board are in /jp/ or in the NijiJP threads instead of /#/.

>>22179708
>Ah! I'll do my reps with the graphs
I'll help you, here are the ones for the first week of April

>>22002329 :: Top 50
>>22003510 :: 1k+ channels
>>22003590 :: Full list
>>22003755 :: Niji only
>>22003818 :: Indies only
>>22003886 :: All but Nijis and Holos
>>22003973 :: Minor companies only
>>22004254 :: NijiEN vs HoloEN
>>22004345 :: IDs only

And for individual talent
>>21983905 : Roberu (!)
>>21976460 : Haachama
>>21976613 : Haachama 2
>>21975789 : Laplus
>>21876531 : Ame
>>21874837 : Ina
>>21868739 : Calli

Per gen
>>22116341: EN field per gen
>>22116928: Luxiem vs. Noctyx, with their debuts overlaid
>>22117366: HoloX vs. Council
>>22117675 : HoloX vs. Council, with their debuts overlaid

>>22179794
>still no numbers

>>22179794
Numbers?

>>22179820
Simple yes or no answer, anon.
And it is related to numbers because we are basing this answer off of numbers like their SCs.

>>22178648
Wait really? I'm quite sure that even near-debut ID1 already mogged every NijiID except for Hana in terms of subcount.

>>22179626
Kek. Nobody would believe you unless you can generate hard numbers. how much does that keychain cost? I have to tell you that we only got the data from the hololive website. But, it might surprise you that most western fans would prefer to buy on geekjack and not on the hololive website. Bae's merch are actually good and expensive too. Not your run off the mill keychain lmao.

>>22179820
Superchat numbers most likely.
>>22179593
It looks like more of her viewers fucked off to sleep after the first few rounds compared to everyone else. Which would make sense considering she streamed FF7R a bunch earlier today as well.

Why the hell are Subaru's numbers going lower and lower?

So where we at? 10 days into April and only ONE NijiEn ENgold and zero actual golds overall?

>>22179901
Numbers?

>>22179938
p much

>>22179927
HoloJP is reclining.

>>22179794
You make assumption based on "even poor people can afford it", yet you bring SC, something poor people don't do. If Luca had BETTER MORE EXPENSIVE merch, then you would probably be right.

>>22179657
LMAOOOO.

>>22179901
>"can you please admit my speculation is reality"
numbers?

>>22179901
Numbers motherfucker do you have them. You want to see me >imply some shit too?

>based on the fact that Bae has a western viewership she has at least triple the membership that Luca has because that's membership is more common for western streamers than donations

>>22179901
>we

ELDENSCHIZO I KNEEL

>>22179927
English collab, her fans probably don’t understand anything

>>22179883
I love you chartanon

>>22179938
They don't even have all the Male Golds because of Emperor...

>>22179657
More like they can only do it as a side job because they aren't big enough to make a living off of it

>>22179626
We do have partial data for holo:

hololive English -Council- Half-Year Celebration
Acrylic Stand (Tsukumo Sana) 318 $17.00 $5,406.00
Acrylic Stand (Ceres Fauna) 479 $17.00 $8,143.00
Acrylic Stand (Ouro Kronii) 493 $17.00 $8,381.00
Acrylic Stand (Nanashi Mumei) 604 $17.00 $10,268.00
Acrylic Stand (Hakos Baelz) 476 $17.00 $8,092.00
Mascot Button Badge Set 535 $41.00 $21,935.00
Mascot Bath Towel 264 $41.00 $10,824.00
$73,049.00

Birthday Merch Complete Set 511 $121.00 $61,831.00
BOOM BOOM!! Rubber Mat 498 $25.00 $12,450.00
Official BRUH Snapback Cap 176 $37.00 $6,512.00
#CAFFEINATED Mug 165 $37.00 $6,105.00
System Voicepack(japanese&english) 89 $5.00 $445.00
Situational Voicepack “A Walk Home” 39 $9.00 $351.00
$87,694.00

Birthday Merch Complete Set 469 $105.00 $49,245.00
The Desk MatRyS(Rubber Mat) 90 $25.00 $2,250.00
The MugRyS(Mug) 111 $33.00 $3,663.00
The DollRyS(Plushie) 167 $41.00 $6,847.00
Situation Voice "Chilling after a Stream" 44 $9.00 $396.00
$62,401.00

>>22179927
Some normal decline in the whole collab after peaking + midnight in Japan and tomorrow is Monday

>>22179921(Me)
Since this dumbfuck refuses to just link both their playboards with actual SC numbers...
Like for real dude, just post them ffs.
Baelz : 179k (USD)
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCgmPnx-EEeOrZSg5Tiw7ZRQ/superchat

Luca: 273k USD
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC7Gb7Uawe20QyFibhLl1lzA/superchat

>>22179901
So your delusion, right?

So all the EN Holos and EN nijis streamed today?

>>22179794
15k yen is how much again? This is on geekjack

>>22180203
not fauna, hers was a premiere

>>22180203
Luxiem basically got mogged by Mumei 2 times.

>>22179676
retard

>>22179593
>>22179927
classic Subaru on multi-POV collab
people won't watch her for some reason and always got shit numbers

>>22180104
other people actually keep their numbers pretty well

>>22179994
>"even poor people can afford it"
That wasn't me. Luxiemfags are rich af or else their SC numbers wouldn't be this retarded. Even fucking Sonny made more SC for his birthday than most of Council and no one watches him.

>>22179950
>>22180018
>>22180022
>>22180146
>Numbers
Luca's SC numbers. We see him get Bae's birthday SCs on sub milestones or after yabs.
Do you think his fans are more generous than Bae's and willing to buy merch?
Easy yes or no answer.

>>22180266
Yeah I’d rather have a $7 keychain

So based on our latest calculation fulgur is way more successful than vox and luca, right?
and anyone who said otherwise is just a holobronie

>>22180266
Vs 12 dollars merch. let's assume that on the complete set alone, Bae has sold 500 units (lowball), how many luca merch do they need to sell to equal in sales?

>>22180266
for fucks sake don't be an idiot too, of course it's sold out because the sales period is already over retard.

>>22180335
You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

>>22180335
No, I don't think they are
Next question

>>22180266
SOLD OUT

>>22180382
https://nijisanji-store.com/collections/luca-kaneshiro/products/luca-kaneshiro-birthday-2022?variant=41678287601859

Full set is $81 USD.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
>THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF US ON MATOME, NIJIEN BROS!
kek, that place and this place, the only difference is the language

>>22180373
Fungus Chungus is definitely the biggest NijiEN member

>>22180382
>12 dollar merch
You don't have to pretend to be retarded to make both sides look retarded

>>22180335
SC =/= Merch

>>22179647
>Kuzuha is the lol represent in japan now
Mann... just remembering Aqua was the same for fucking China, the region that actualy won worlds... just... how unlucky.

>>22180444
It's sold out because the sale is over, retard.
Literally made to order.

>>22180445
is the badge made of gold or something?

>>22180335
Anon there are lot of people who don't ac but buy merch, or vice versa. There is no such thing as consistency in these areas. Just like one person can buy 3 of the sets of they want to, you will never be able to tell. This is why this argument is fucking flawed.

Not a bad day for her. I hope it staves off graduation but I dunno, I'm not really a member/stalker.

So NijiEN lost viewers, subs, sponsorship and merch, now Niji fans are resorting to SCs only?

>>22180297
AVE!

>>22179547
Damn, I haven't watched HonHima for 3 months and suddenly she looks rather sexy to me. Must be the lack of the cute dumb smile

Matome kneeling to the KING, as usual

>>22179626
>Assumption
There it is, the Niijcoep. Bae actually had good merch so no, it wouldn't surprise me if it sold more.
>Luca's fans are more insane
Is that why Bae had more viewers for her birthday stream? You aren't doing to well here buddy.

>>22180594
>smartphone wallpaper
???

>>22180513
NIJICOEP

>>22180665
>277
rumao

>>22180621
This

>>22180594
wait i thought Nijinips merch is affordable?

>>22180621
>ac
SC
>of they
If they
I need to reread my posts before I hit enter

>>22180635
They're just being beated back in every other metric after their big incline. Though to be fair it seems their fans are unhinged enough to keep pouring donations into them so that's not something they'll lose soon.

>>22180630
Meds.

>>22180726
this is merch for nijicn

>>22180665
kek. Is this cultural cross pollination? that's literally us but Japanese.

>>22180630
She will never graduate. Holo is the only thing that makes her life relevant rn/ the only accomplishment she had on her life so far

Holotori combined peak : 50K5
For reference, the overwatch combined peak was 43.1K

>>22180594
>smartphone wallpaper included too!

>>22179114
lmao no, that was nene's merch number

>>22180797
>Is this cultural cross pollination
Nah, it's more like a convergence, and an artifact of a very loose translation by my part that may make it sound too similar

Here is one more, with "Hanshin Tigers" being their Chicago Cubs

>>22180594
Cope. Nijisanji makes more money by making this. Imagine selling high cost merch when you know fujos will buy it.

>>22178929
What the fuck are you babbling about, moron? Laplus is on track to be the next Pekora. Chloe is on track to earn more than Rushia tier money. What's this coming back down to earth you speak of? I really wish there was a way to purge all the brain dead chimpanzees we have in this thread who can't get Holomyth out of their fucking head and use Gura as a benchmark for success.

>>22180486
>>22180621
From all the months of data of holomerch we do have, is there not a correlation between high SC and high merch sales?
There are surprises with low SC and high merch sales, but never the other way around. Rushia, Pekora, Nene all sold truckloads of merch.

SCs are just an indicator of how loose a fanbase is with money and the looser they are with SCs, the more likely they are to shill for merch.
We already have some inkling of Luxiemfags buying a shitton of merch seeing as their White Day merch outsold manjisanjiJP.

>>22180698
We literally saw on day 1 that Bae's merch was not selling very well (compared to HoloJPs) and understandably so because only 19k people watched her totsu as opposed to HoloJPs getting 50k+ on 3D lives to advertise their merch.
Luca doesn't need to shill like this to his audience because most of his fans are twitterfags that just drop SC and don't stick around his streams and Nijitwitter runs itself (His merch announcement tweet has 40k likes and 10k+ retweets, don't look at Bae's in comparison).

>>22180842
Depresshion...

>>22179440
mogged by a superior male

>>22180957
>What the fuck are you babbling about, moron? Laplus is on track to be the next Pekora
Jesas the delusion. And Koyori is the new marine right?

>>22180098
based

>>22180990
> twitter engagement cope

>>22180990
Unless you have straight numbers literally all your speculation is a fucking cope.

>>22179440
Guess who has the bigger dick?

>>22179171
now show myth

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Luxiem sold more merch than Council. Rich chink fujos and yumejos are fucking insane. At least they're slowly draining RMB into JPY.

(If you claim any Luxiem sold more than Gura though, you're fucking mad)

>>22181100
>straight numbers
Never talk about merch again then retard because we're never seeing those numbers.

Holomyth Omocat merch sold out? We'll never know how much Myth made so don't talk about it.

>>22180990
>is there not a correlation between high SC and high merch sales?
There is, but you make it sounds like it's only thing that matters. There are many other variables when it comes to merch numbers.

Luxiem sold more than gura

>>22181114
Anon, just fucking look UP, it already got posted. Or are you just trying to start another timeloop?

>>22181115
Gura's 1:1 statue auction will be some prime shitpost material lmao

>>22181042
Laplus literally has the most potential out of the recent 2 JP gens to be a number monster anon. Given time, she might be a 20k streamer. Remember, she hasn't had her 3d yet and haven't performed in a 3d live. You know who massively inclined on her 3d live? Subaru, and nobody thought she would be the breakout star in Gen 2 along with Aqua because you know, shion and ayame.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO, WE GOT TOO COCKY HOLOBROS!

What Hololive can't beat NijiSanji

>Variety
>Number of female audience
>Total number of people watching
>Entertainment
>Sensitivity
>Office size
>Financial strength
>Fan enthusiasm
>Number of major debuts
>Number of views on King
>Contribution to the community
>Superchat
>Tracking of 3D props

Is MatomeBro right?

Imagine thinking that the Nijihomo merch actually sold well. The Fujo cretins that watch him don't even buy their membership (which all signs indicate are pitifully low). They just want to send superchats with thirst messages and have them read.

These chink degenerates are not like the Japanese Fujos. They aren't buuing merch.

>>22180990
>SCs are just an indicator of how loose a fanbase is with money and the looser they are with SCs
nigga you arent going to convince anyone becase there is now data to back up your claim
stop trying
>Luca doesn't need to shill like this to his audience because most of his fans are twitterfags that just drop SC and don't stick around his streams and Nijitwitter runs itself (His merch announcement tweet has 40k likes and 10k+ retweets, don't look at Bae's in comparison).
nijsanji tweeter engament rarely translate as numebrs his actual birthday WAS LOWER than the countdown

>>22181169
> thinking luxiem has more reach than myth

>>22181225
Eh, will it? That thing nets 0 profit.

>>22181115
Most of those kind are also numberfags for their oshi, they may not bother to support via merch if they know those sales won't be made public for them/their oshi to flaunt over. And instead just to spend their money towards SC. All sort of speculation are possible/reasonable if few to no data is known, it's literally useless to argue with.

>>22181282
>that was your takeaway from the post
Reading comprehension reps PLEASE you fucking retard.

>>22181269
Where are the bus ads for your ENwhores then? Luca got bus ads for his birthday

>>22181238
they're just like us...

>>22181238
I can only give him the number of female audience and view on king (because of course hololive is a matriarchy). Everything else is cope.

>>22181269
>Imagine not knowing how much more merch women buy than men.
Thats just basic demographics

>council is a failure t. niji
>mogs their top talent twice
???

>>22181334
>Where are the bus ads for your ENwhores then?
Anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMXkdPILc0

>>22180102
So, is ther any particular reason why Mumei's Acrylic stand outsold the others by so much that we're aware of? Kronii is usually the one with the big spenders, and Mumei's fanbase always resembled Ame's to me where they were a bit more stingy, though that may be an outdated impression

>>22181281
aki suzuya 3d announcement on niji's twitter got 55k likes, what's his peak for the live ?

>>22181308
Is not about profits, it's about NUMBERS

>>22180842
>the only accomplishment she had on her life so far
Considering she's barely out of high school that's really not surprising.

>>22181334
OH NO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t7eX8AOmyQ

>>22181334
And Kronii got a fucking billboard you ape.

>>22181281
>nigga you arent going to convince anyone becase there is now data to back up your claim
What data nigger? That Holos with high SCs sell more merch than Holos with low SCs?
>nijsanji tweeter engament rarely translate as numebrs
This applies to stream CCV numbers.
All we know about merch for Luxiem is that they outsold ManjisanjiJP on White day, a Japanese event, with the same merch.
Unless you think ManjisanjiJP also sells no merch, in which case, there's no point in talking anymore.

Watching mori play bloodborne made me want to poke my eyes, can't believe she get 5k for playing badly.

>>22181334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LgzQ9zJRzc
OH NO

>>22181238
the nijicoep list!

NijiEN btw

>>22181357
you can probably throw them a bone tracking of 3D props too

>>22181403
26.217

>>22181232
Im not that anon but laplus has shit game choice and can't stream for long hours.

>>22181512
What about Indonesia? Aren't they big there?

>>22181238
Fucking kek that japs have their own niji cope list?

All of these cope is really pathetic

>>22181238
>Sensitivity
... Nipple?

>>22181403
>>22181521
To be fair, that was one of the worst 3D debuts of all time.
Even if 55k tourists showed up at one point, they would've left within minutes.

The few hours before the tally really is the worst, huh.

>>22181525
That's so oddly specific. Can't they just claim Niji is better with 3D?

>>22181334
Bus ads are just normal Taiwanese retard shenanigans, who cares

FUCKING KEK, I don't know if this is serious or if it is their "navy seal pasta" equivalent of bait but fr sure this takes "SEETHE GOLD" for the day

> It's pathetic that you are proud of your current numbers without understanding that the male livers numbers were won by merit and the market will eventually be dominated by Kuzuha and Kenmochi, while female livers are numbers that will soon recline because they got it by being cute and pampered.

I think I saw this one there before so this must be an ironic repost

>>22181618
They fucking cant

anyone can postthe lucas twitter tags locations again?
>>22181459
even luna got a huge amount of emrch sold. sc barely .
>This applies to stream CCV numbers
it applies to anything becasue there is no correaltion between tiwtter engagement and anything.
Your whole cope is about the shitty whiteday merch which was the first time eve nijien got anything outside the normal acrylic stand. you cannot win this argument becasue you have no data to back up your claims. EVEN RIGHT NOW that shit is outselling lucas and sonys birthdays good so it isnt sleling gangbusters.

Can we please fucking make a /lux#/ thread where you niggers can argue about Luxiem numbers all day and night and never bring them up here ever again?

>>22181334
>bus ads in some third world shit hole
Vs.
>Taking over one of the most iconic landmarks in the biggest city in the world

Hmmmm

>>22180957
Lacunny will never be like Queen Usada

>>22181618
Not anymore lol

>>22181618
I have a poor eye for these kinds of things but as far as I can tell the 3D for the actual talents themselves seem about equal between Hololive and Nijisanji. Only in their interaction with props is Niji's 3D noticeably better

>>22181370
Japanese fujos sure. These chinks are just coomer degenerates. They aren't buying merch.

Comparing merch to SC is retarded for a simple reason.
Merch is usually bought in individual amounts, once, and privately. You have no real motiation to buy 20 Luca acryllic stands.
The same oil baron can fund all of your superchats because he/she is trying to interact with you or flex how much they spend.

>>22178160
Nobody cares about Indogs.

>>22181746
More merch than Japanese fujos are buying for NijiJP though

>>22181760
>You have no real motiation to buy 20 Luca acryllic stands.

You underestimate fujos.
https://twitter.com/ryu_risky_1012/status/1315306274431528960?s=20

Also there was some dude in this fucking board who bought 3 sets of Fauna's birthday merch so there are people who are mentally ill.

>>22181760
>You have no real motiation to buy 20 Luca acryllic stands.
FUCKING KEK; you don't really know hw fujos roll, do you?
https://twitter.com/aityan_band/status/1501440216040570880

Not even the biggest shrine I've saw for that particular album, some chick booked a "princess photoshoot" to take by the side of her MASSIVE shrine for the same album
(someone has and will post it; i assume)

>>22181852
>>22181881
why are women

>>22178160
> Techies
She deserves 0 views.

>>22181688
>even luna got a huge amount of emrch sold. sc barely .
Again, there are surprises with low SC, high merch, but never high SC, low merch.
Luna's merch didn't sell nearly as well as Rushia, Pekora, and Nene's anyways.

>no correaltion between tiwtter engagement and anything.
Chinman lives up to his twitter engagment and manjisanji 3D debuts usually do like Gaku, Fuwa and Ib's.
The twitter engagement was more about exposure and letting people know the merch is on sale, which is one advantage HoloJPs have over HoloENs since they shill their merch after 3D lives.

>shitty whiteday merch which was the first time eve nijien got anything outside the normal acrylic stand
Fair enough.

>EVEN RIGHT NOW that shit is outselling lucas and sonys birthdays good so it isnt sleling gangbusters.
Hasn't been more than a day yet for Luca and Luxiem's most popular are still Vox and Mysta who would push more merch than just Luca himself.
Sonny's merch will probably sell like shit since his SCs are normally quite low and no one watches him. He only got a burst of SC on his birthday.

>>22181918
>women
of course they would

>>22181852
>>22181881
We already know about Nip Fujos. Thw point is that the Chink Fujos are just coomers and are in no way similar to the Japanese ones. They aren't buying merch.

>>22181238
What made that matomeguy reply like that kek

>>22180455
link?

>>22181852
>>22181881
I don't understimate fujos at all, I've seen this exact behavior for fucking Shien, a woman just had a room fool of his retarded merch. But a few whales like these won't carry shit.

Besides, look at them, they're attention whores. They do it to flex how muc hthey bought on the other fujos. If this was happening in significant capacity you could actually track it.

>>22178160
Another case of Reine last three digits beating the sum of all of NijiID

>>22181881
This is a gacha merch by the way. Jackpot prize is a one-on-one talk with kuzuha i think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>22181977
It's matome comment section on the last two articles. I can't really link the comment sections and the articles are easy to find.

>>22181974
I think it was out of nowhere, implying either a shitpost or a massive cope

>>22181922
Luca is the lower than vox and mysta s and he doesnt get muhc on regular streams.
>Luxiem's most popular are still Vox and Mysta who would push more merch than just Luca himself
THE WHOLE TALK IS ABOUT LUCA MERCH AND HOW HE MAGICALLY WILL SELL A SHITTON.

>>22181918
>>22181929
its also done by hololive fans buying tons of pins and cards, do you really even follow hololive?

Futan 10k get

>>22180455
So luxfags are also the schizo's there?

>>22182003
You're not wrong in this case, but see >>22181983, japanese fujos are loaded and when they're not spending a thousand US bucks on host bars they spare some lowly hundreds on virtual pretty boys

>>22181881
Fujos are crazy, this stuff would just take up space at home and they'll throw it away after losing interest in a year. I'd rather buy 5 irys mugs then give it to friends and see said mug on their counter in 5 years. Of course, my kronii daki sleeps between me and my wife.

>>22181974
Just the usual nijinogs.

>Merch talk trying to change the attention from Luca's BD stream being a disappointment

>>22182031
Racist tallyanon BTFO!

ITT people confusing fujos with yumejos

For the love of God get your shit together.

I regret bringing up the discussion about merch. I'm sorry. wtf is happening now

>>22182031
Tally-anon don't forget to update

>>22181920
based

>>22182077
>#
>Holofag
>wife
You're joking, aren't you? Why are you here?

I simply do not care about how much merch Luxiem are selling and we have no way of proving it, can we please discuss anything else other than these faggots who this thread gives a massively disproportionate amount of attention to compared to their numbers?

>>22181334
HoloEN had billboards in Time Square, which are probably way more expensive than bus ads in Hong Kong. Hololive in general also had tons of bus ads already

>>22181707
>third world shit hole
Hong Kong?
>biggest city in the world
Tokyo?

Hong Kong has higher HDI than Japan

>>22182029
Vox and Mysta selling more than Luca doesn't mean Luca won't sell a lot. It just means Vox and Mysta will sell even more.
If you know anything about Luca's fanbase, it's that they're parasocial as fuck(think Kiara and KFP) and they donate a shitton of money to him for "being cute". It's not to the point of Vox where he's roleplaying a incubus and ripping money out of the women's wallets, but it's pretty up there.

>>22182118
>I regret bringing up the discussion about merch. I'm sorry. wtf is happening now
You gave the fujos something they perceived as a lifeline.

>>22181618
No, its pretty much true. for holo you still get flying props but niji had this tracking from years ago
https://youtu.be/9DlXL0sX2kE

anons, apex scrim starts monday right ?

Imagine arguing with women about other males. This thread is beyond salvation

>>22182145
IIRC there's a married anon here. He posted once that he's going to pick up his son or something. Goes to show that mental wellness doesn't come with age.

>>22182179
You're missing the part that JUST BECAUSE THEY SC DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL BUY MERCH. SCS ARE, IN GENERAL, FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT HIS UNDIVIDED ATTENTION. IT HAS NO BEARING ON THE FUCKING ARGUMENT. MAYBE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL BUY MERCH, BUT NOT ALL, AND UNELSS YOU HAVE ACTUAL FUCKING HARD NUMBERS TO BACK IT UP IT'S RETARDED FUCKING SPECULATION AND YOU NEED TO STOP BEING A RETARDED NIGGER

Alright, I'll change the topic,

Can EN 3 revive HoloEN?

>>22182243
Depends on who will be there. But I have high hopes on cover's scouting. So far, only kronii and sana are a disappointment. And both are salvageable.

I'm surprised 12k is watching Towa. People are accepting males now for Holos.

>>22181316
numberfags will also spam buy shit just to flex on other fans
>ie. tatsunocucks

>>22182164
It was in Taiwan anon, those guys fucking love putting chuubas on buses.

>>22182243
Revive? when did it die?

>>22182186
>>22182218
There are no women in this thread and I don't even fucking like Luca.
I actually watch Bae and it's just reality that the brats are not as wealthy or generous as Luxiemfags.

>>22182243
>Can EN 3 revive HoloEN?
If its like ID3, no. ID3 worked for ID but it would be too boring for EN

>>22182306
>Towa
>Males
>Now
Anon, plz, whatever JP audience Towa kept after her initial yabe plus the one she grew after that would never ever care about her FPS collabs with males

>>22182164
We also have an estimate for the cost of the billboard ad from the finana discord discussion issue

>>/vt/thread/S20440839#p20440990

>>22182179
>lucas viewres are parasocial as fuck i swear
nigga they have been giving him less SC every stream unless it is a celerbation.
luca shitty himbo play doesnt mean that he is moving merch or breaking records or even getting near what some holos do and until you have actual numbers to back up your claims just shut the fuck up your claims you are just assuming shit absed on your own shitty perceptions of reality

>>22182338
I agree with you but there's no proof and you'll never convince this thread so just drop it, please

>>22182243
Get one or two Koyoris and HoloEN will thrive. Also, include a bilingual. Council doesn't have that. Kronii doesn't even use korean in her stream or do a korean only stream. Same as Bae, even if she knows JP, she should've have collabed more.

>>22182338
the only rich/generous Brats are the KRs lol

>>22182349
if EN3 gets a Kobo, you will kneel.

>>22182338
Hey look, someone posted this so that means ALL of Fauna's fans are mentally deranged and buy multiple items of her!!

This is literally how you sound.

>>22182243
>revive

>>22182243
Revive it from what? You cunts ranting about the EN recline just keep comparing their numbers with Honeymoon Myth.

>>22182306
Towa is male though

>>22182239
First of all, you sound really fucking mad so take a chill pill buddy, we're talking about numbers we'll never have access to.

Secondly, if your point is I need hard numbers to make a speculation on who will sell more merch, then we can never have merch discussion in these threads again because we aren't getting hard numbers back.
Also means that we're not allowed to say "I think Gura will sell more merch than Anya", because we won't get hard numbers for either of them.

>>22182243
Who would even be in EN 3? Most indies already stated they prefer staying indie, so unless Cover can find talent in the 2view hell or other fields, the only option is to convert whoretubers.

>>22182377
>include a bilingual. Council doesn't have that
You mean a bilingual on the same tier as IRyS? That's a tough bar. You'll have to settle for Bae and Sana for EN/JP bilingualism. Ofc you could also group IRyS with Council.

>>22182377
two koyoris will burn the branch out. everyone else will feel like they're not doing enough.
I'd take one Koyo and one Lui who's good at organizing big collabs.

they already have really solid hitters in Gura/Mori/Kronii and Mummers.

>>22182338
We won't ever have the number for Luxiem merch unfortunately but it's a good assumption to make. Honestly hard to talk objectively about Luxiem /here/, there are a few nijifags who gas them up too much but they are vastly outnumbered by anons who will do everything in their power to beat them down

>>22182377
>Also, include a bilingual. Council doesn't have that
>proceed to mention people who are bilingual

>>22182466
Towel…

>>22182465
>we're talking about numbers
you obviously arent as you have no data

>>22182243
get her thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YundPOnCOHY