/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22026245
wtf are you talking about?

>non niji leak
I don’t care

>>22026245
Yes lol, take the corpo pill, women need managers in order not come off as deranged.
Even Kson has a manager

>i could care less
That means you care at least somewhat, the phrase is "couldn't care less"

I want cyberlive to burn down

>>22026305
cyberlive unironically seething at Lumi going indie and are playing the crab bucket game on her now

Very interesting, OP!

>>22026245
Did Lumi leave Cyberlive because they made a shittalking server about her?

>>22026414
to be fair lumi and snow bitch are traitorous whores

>spending time investing in 2 view company drama

>>22026528
possibly this + being exploited due to misaki's disappearance

>>22026645
It’s like randomly changing channels. You don’t know wtf is going on but intriguing somehow.

>>22026338
>>22026645
the absolute state of this board

>>22026245
who? what?

>>22026812
I’m not gonna watch your shitty indie

>>22026245
I can’t trust anime girl streamers. I can’t trust anyone

>>22027021
Define "indie".

>>22027286
it's a shitposter anon of course it doesn't know what it's talking about

>>22027056
YWNBAW

>>22026339
Years back I used to wonder exactly how critical managers really were but now it's like, "well I wish I didn't know why but the answer was in front of me the whole time, women, especially ones lacking in education and without professional work culture experience, often can't help but gossip and pick at scabs."

Remember the Mori Lean arc, seemingly the closest HoloEN has gotten thus far to serious yab, happened when her manager was off for the week. The Rushia yab that fucking got her terminated happened because the managers were off for like 2 entire days. It is fucking unbelievable. I cannot fucking imagine how utterly amazingly fucking dense and unprofessional most of these little shitters really are. I'd imagine not all of them are actually-THAT-THAT-THAT-stupid but enough of them are statistically that they need actual babysitters/tardwranglers in the form of management.

>>22027286
anyone below 300.views

>>22026245
What is this freak of a subreddit... WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!!!

>>22027440
Anon....what?
Indie means they aren't signed to a corporation. These girls are part of cyberlive, which is a vtubing corporation. There are indies of all sizes, and corpos of all sizes.

Evil fucking hags. Have some shame. Yoki why you, too, come on girl why

>>22027021
Yes, stay the fuck out jungle monkey

>>22027379
Because they’re all genuine tards. No sane person would be a vtuber.

all out war

>>22027501
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vtubing corporation
delusional 2view

>>22027379
women can't behave. They always need tardwranglers to contain their deranged nature

>>22027557
just get out of this thread I don't even know what you're saying

Why is this moving so fast why does this subreddit have so many people?

>>22027630
nah stay in your general
>>22017360

>>22027379
It’s almost unbelievable. It’s almost like they’re one brick from going critical at all times, and the managers going on break is equal to Harry Daghlian.

>>22027766
Lumi WAS manager for Cyberlive anon. That's the person they're talking shit about

>>22027379
Since the same things happen to trannies, I'd blame estrogen, because post-menopausal women are a lot more measured

>>22027808
Yeah for like, a month maybe. After the old one quit from being MIA. I think that's more a Cyberlive problem than a "girls inherently can't do it" kind of deal, like they put people into that position who just were not prepared to do it. I mean there are plenty of good female managers in Hololive, hell the second-in-command below Yagoo appears to be A-chan and she is an utter go-getter.

>>22027933
So you undermine your own point with an irrelevant aside about another company

>because post-menopausal women are a lot more measured

>>22026339
That Vera person in the OP IS the manager.

>>22027907
hagbros can't keep winning!

>>22026245
Nice thread Lumi, you're seething just made me sub to your ex-colleagues

>>22027379
and now you know

>>22026583
AHAHAHAHA okay Inori go off. How’s being a blind follower of a menhera schizoid like Hylo working out for you?

You hated being called a nigger in Holdfast because you’re afraid of people noticing in the dark, your individual will as a human being is worse than the most debased of niggers. And that they don’t know calling you a darkie is in fact overestimating you.

Inshallah. Your names are in the ledger upstairs and He knows your works.

I'm getting the popcorn.

>>22028032
A lifetime of high estrogen still rots your brain anon, but immediately after menopause, most old women no longer imagine fictional events in their head and believe them to be happening

>>22027440
by this criteria puts MaiR as not indie and Alba Sera (Sony) as indie

>>22026245
god I hope everyone who uses discord just fucking dies

>>22026245
>/vt/ is unironically /cgl/ 2.0
i've never been to /cgl/, tell me about it.

Also I thought the other chick that graduated with lumi was her gf or something.

>>22028529
Hororaibu...

>>22027056
is this supposed to defend males or females?

>>22026245
>crabs in a bucket
What kind of 3rd world freak are you? What the fuck does that even mean? I have no idea what drama you're trying to drum up but based on what I'm seeing here Lumi seems like a dumb whore

Imagine how easy Shinove has it with the stars compared to a single of the hololive manager.

>>22028589
NTA but it's a real saying; search up crab mentality.

>>22028589
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
this isn't a third world thing. this is an incredibly common figure of speech in the english language.

>>22028589
Retard

>>22028589
Calm down. If you're unfamiliar with such a common idiom, it just means that you're a bit uneducated. Not a big deal.

>>22028589
>crabs in a bucket
>3rd world
Kek, great way to describe Atlanta.

>>22028371
Instate Sharia Law when??

I don't care what anyone says. You'll never get me to hate Lumi

>>22028589
t. third world ESL nigger

>>22028589
> Americans don't know English
jesus christ just let the spics take over, they're already halfway there

these cyberfreaks are ITT RIGHT NOW
say hi

>>22028638
>New Zealand
Ohhhhh, you're from dahn undah, ayy. To be fair, I generally don't know what Aussies/Sheep-shaggers are saying most of the time anyway so it's no wonder I didn't get it. Anyway as with most women who try to dump their company and go it alone, Lumi is a dumb whore

Well, what a letdown.

>>22026245
>>women playing crabs in a bucket
>>probably the same set of """"""""""""""antis""""""""""""" posting on the board
I don't understand why the fuck you people keep seething about nijisanji.

>>22028589
Negro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipg4EL_JUyE

>>22028589
>>22028689
never heard of this until I went to /ic/

>>22027056
if femanons were well adjusted and attractive they wouldn't be femanons

>>22027056
I feel like race is a bigger factor than gender in this. Specifically the race that stays up around midnight PST time to spam Niji-anti threads while the jannies are asleep

>>22029049
>3rd world freak
>dumb whore
Doesn’t know common idioms, projects his shame onto others, immediately resorts to calling them a whore, this is textbook seanigger behavior.

>>22028589
>What the fuck does that even mean?
Why is this still a question that exists in a world where you are literal seconds away from Googling any bit of knowledge you want?

>>22028377
Calm down, Bleed.

finally dramaniggers can now eat

>>22029355
Do people really have voices like this?

>>22029220
It's a common saying in the entirety of the English speaking world. You're not very well read, anon.

>>22029628
>dramaniggers can now eat
>2view drama
you think we want to touch this?

>>22028637
Wait so Lumi thought she was doing something good by being a retarded sperg and all the people disgusted with her actions are somehow dragging her down? That's hilarious.

>>22028525
Literally who?

>>22028525
>sony
soon to be graduated

>>22029506
What other term is there for a worthless woman? Cunt and bitch just don't carry the same implications. Lumi is used up, useless, devoid of virtue. You seem to be the English professor here, what word should I be using?

>>22029628
this just confirms that the huge dramaniggers on /vt/ are vtubers themselves

>>22028589
>Didn't even have the balls to ask nicely
Anon...

>>22026759
Yeah I don't know why but I was really invested in the Saurei and all adjacent drama that happened and I've literally never watched anyone involved.
It's like a trainwreck you can't look away from, and everyone involved in it is fucking insane

>>22030181
Really makes me wonder if some of the threads I frequent are in fact NOT filled with hairy dudes. That’d be horrifying, though...

>>22029628
The fact that Lumi had a doxxfag as her head mod until he lost his role after he had a menhera episode about being exposed (before he came back on a different account) should have been enough of a sign that she'd raise a shitload of drama against anyone who she perceived to have wronged her.

>>22027379
How much micromanaging do they have to do, then? Do they clear every tweet?

>>22028589

>>22029384
>until I went to /ic/
/ic/ is basically crab bucket mentality in full display. Of course you'd see it being used there more often than any other board on this website

>>22028371
>that play button at the end
Woah how can I reward anons with 4chan gold?

>>22030181
the Sana threads became way less funny to me after I realized they were being made by actual seething jealous 2views and not numberfags and memers

>>22026245
Damn, and i even liked inori.. well into the trash it goes.

>>22029834
Yes, because it's where most of the drama comes from.
Dramaniggers would starve if they tried to thrive purely on Holo or Niji drama, because it just doesn't happen often

>>22030353
At least hairy dudes are logical because they're usually nerds or some shit.

>>22026339
Hers is for dealing with business matters, that's unrelated.

Why are they like this?


https://files.catbox.moe/n1sb7e.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hqq2vc.png
https://files.catbox.moe/rabz3d.png

>>22028556
/cgl/ is the original e-drama board basically. Shit talking about cosplayers left and right. I'm not surprised this board is just as the same as /cgl/

>>22031182
And just like /vt/, /cgl/ is overpopulated by women.

>>22031219
How do you filter these fat women out?

>>22026245
>>22031133
keep em coming. Did those whores ever address it?

>>22026245
I like Hylo but don't follow any of the others, what's what yab?

>>22031444
These got leaked here 3 hours ago. At most 3 of them were awake for this and of those 3 2 are in Asia and don't go on this site.

Everybody on this sub needs to chill out

>>22031133
>he does it anonymously so no one knows
>except me for some reason
Yeah this is a true woman moment, I believe it

>>22028132
Anon I know you only understand women through porn but your 'hag' is not in her mid to late 40s and most certainly isn't going through menopause

>>22031646
>sub

>>22031667
if she's older than 20 she's a hag

>>22030967
>logical
Anon half this thread had been freaky neets talking about how women are all incapable sluts that require constant supervision. Is your brain really that rotted out, or are you blind?

>>22031721
Then literally all niji and Holo girls are hags dude

>/clg/ - /cgl/

>>22028525
Mea has a company/agency behind her.

>>22031646
upvoted

>>22031533
Hylo has been shittalking and spreading rumors about Lumi and Yuri.

>>22031868
Who are Lumi and Yuri?

>>22031903
her past genmates

>>22028042
He meant a male manager. Female managers need to be managed by a male manager.

>>22031133
So much seething and jealousy.

>>22031133
wait this is their actual discord what the fuck. I thought it was some randoms gossiping with vera

>>22031868
So it's Lumi and Yuri vs everyone a cyberlive?

>>22028589
An excuse people use to not feel guilty for being an asshole.

>>22026245
Who is lumi, who is hylo, who is yuri, who is vera? And why should I even fucking care?

>>22032319
Yeah pretty much

>>22032319
Mostly just Lumi

>>22032362
>why should I even fucking care?
You shouldn't

>>22031133
literal /vt/sisters

>>22026339
managers cost money and these 2views don't make enough to get one

The fun kind of drama, pettiness.

>>22026245
There's something refreshing about watching the online equivalent of a car crash while also having zero stake in it.

>>22026245
>take the small corpo pill they said

>>22031295
You can't. Some are here for the male vtubers which is fine. Others are trying to break in and it's cut throat.

>>22026245
Honestly? I can believe this is real. I don't really feel like some of these small corpo girls are that close and especially in Cyberlive there could be some friction from the more popular girls just fucking off. Luckily they're a small company so this won't blow up, nobody even remembers WACTOR doxxing a talent or Amberglow's blow-up

If anyone in this thread watches Cyberlive, did Lumi ever appear like she was close with the second gen?

>>22031133
>>22026245
What the hell is this shit? What do they have against Lumi and Yuri?

>>22033336
All out war lol

>>22033336
women are spiteful by nature. They abhor anyone who's more successful than them.

>>22033336
It's just women being women.
They cannot survive without chaos, hate and drama.

>>22033336
>Become somewhat popular while you're in Cyberlive
>Fuck off in probably one of the more surprising graduations if you follow these smaller groups.

>>22033154
Tsunderia and Phase Connect, unironically. The former takes forever to do anything, but they have a manager that dotes on them and ties everything together, and the latter is just a bunch of young adults fucking around pretending to be anime girls.

>>22033317
Lumi invited Menace herself to Cyberlive

Was lumi even that successful?
She has like 12k subs

>>22033508
She was a Twitch chuuba

>>22033317
She never collabed with them or talked with them much beyond a few words. It really did seem like they hated her.

>>22032493
>>22032546
That's a shame, I am very disappointed Hylo would take part in that. I always thought she could actually gain some traction and become a 4view if she focused more on creative content instead of just doing what others already do.

For once being a 2 view will be good. /vt/ mostly ignores it when they can't recognize names

>>22033336
They couldn't handle Lumi being their manager. Yuri probably got caught in the crossfire because she chose to side with Lumi.

>>22030840
I mean it could honestly be seanigger males, they do pop up often during NA sleep times

>>22033414
>Tenma
>Young
Implying

>>22034000
Oh hush anon, she's a little girl online.

>>22034029
You will not hide hag pussy from me

Just saw the full context, seems like a shitshow from top to bottom. Hopefully this doesn't get in the way of them getting new members.

>>22026245
>random discord screencap thread

>>22033317
Other than them coming to Lumicord for a period, not really. Not much interaction either way

>>22034540
Post it.

>>22034956
Should I posted in the dedicated thread the full story about all this drama?.
It goes all the way back to Kiki's past on r9k sending 2 people in prison on fake charges and still being underage to this day ,to her dating VIrial and lying and manipulating him to get benefits whih include the collab with Lumi/Pippa ashortly after her debut which gave birth to the infamous collab discord where Virial later revealed that Kiki lied to him and he was underage and severley mentally ill, to much later when Menace chose to use those logs when she was trying to get Sei banned from their circles since simply being outed as doxxer and insane schizo spamme was not enough for him to be worried, although he left only in appearance which prompted Menace to leak it in public like in /pyon/ and slowly forming a circle of people she swould trust against Lumi and posting about her "schizo mods" in wvt, while Kiki was made aware of Menace activity and spotting her in her thread and mentioned her, to end with Lumi confronting CL's staff with no satisfactory answer and thus decidig to leave with the few people she would trust. I'm heavily summarizing though of course.

>>22034781
These are the 2 view corpos that anons shill here.

>>22026414
>cyberlive
Who?
>Lumi
Who?

>>22031133
>whom donated
It's "who donated". You should avoid using "whom" unless you're absolutely sure you're using it right, because using it wrong makes you look both pretentious and stupid.

>>22031133
My main takeaway is this Emma girls seems the only worthwhile one. I don't blame her for some bitter feelings depending on how things went behind the scenes, but even in a crowd of seething bitches she's level headed enough to try and tell them to shut the fuck up about it.

>>22035325
thank you, emma

Chapipi keeps winning by not being a discordfag.

this is just how female friendships are, we are not supposed to understand

>>22035519
BASED CHAPPERS

>>22033414
Tsunderia explicitly values people who seem like they'd mesh well with the company when hiring new talents, which makes sense considering what things were like before they started doing that.

>>22035519
wtf I love Chapipi now?

>>22031133
>shes based and panders to 4chan
subbed

>>22035642
>/vt/ has allowed for the learning of forbidden knowledge
How do I remove such a toxin from my brain?

>>22035519
I knew she was a good girl

>>22032612
makes you wonder how many of the shit stirrers her are actually qt chuubas; pretty exciting desune

>>22035870
It's not like it says anything on her opinion on the entire thing, but she at least has the common sense not to dip her finger into it.

>>22035519
>EU girl isn't as dumb as the burger mutts
I mean, it's just the natural order of things

I bet she was the leaker

>>22035910
Anyone above gossip is alright in my book.

>>22035519
She was in Discord yesterday bro...

>>22036135
It always goes back to Mori, doesn't it?

>>22036208
She has a Discord account since she needs it for actual work related stuff, yes, but she never does anything else with it.

>>22036135
>deadbeat talking shit and then deflecting
typical deadbeat behaviour checks out

>>22035894
>enter thread
>I think I’m just shooting the shit with the boys
>get called a nigger, laugh at it like usual
>I don’t even know that it’s a qt3.14 chuuba on the other end
>even better, it’s my oshi
>I watch her stream, none-the-wiser

>>22036135
Doxxbeats, I....

>>22026583
I'd point out why she was justified in leaving but there is no point since you're probably one of those CL whores yourself. Enjoy your black company.

>>22036252
Always

>>22036259
Post the gossip leaks then

>>22036342
What makes you think I have any leaks anon? I'm just inferring it from the current leaks corroborated with the fact that she never posts anything in any of the fancords she's in.

>>22028589
ESL

>>22036259
She used Discord yesterday, mate.

>>22036308
Why did she leave?

>>22030181
We knew that dude did you already forget orcschizo.

>>22036485
Where?

>>22036485
Ok and? Either post proof she is also a talking shit behind your back gril or fuck off

>>22029220
Stop! I'm getting second-hand embarrassment. Aren't you tired of being wrong all the time? Isn't it about time you took your own life? You can do it.

>>22036490
Company being a joke and forced her manager roles she never asked for, and of course never got paid for it too

>>22036135
She has fucking terminal Number Rot and for her own good she better get rid of it

>>22036505
Veracord
>>22036539
I'm not saying she did anything bad, I'm just saying she finally used it for once in a non-co worker only space.

>>22036608
I see nothing in her post history, was it VC?

>>22036608
>I'm just saying she finally used it for once in a non-co worker only space.
Ok and?

>>22036490
Busy life, felt the need to become a manager because the original one essentially went AWOL, grad student, having a cut taken for not a whole lot of support + her contract permitted it.

Don't care, i only watch streams and have fun.
I give no fucks about what the streamer does besides the streams.

What the FUCK is happening now?

>>22036663
2view drama.

>>22036622
Yeah, she came to see Gezu

>>22036663
Women

>>22026245
This is so dull that NijiEN fake drama is more exciting to talk about. God 2 views really are worthless.

>>22036879
Yeah, show them how this is done Vox

I wonder who leaked it. Who is this silent hero acting from the shadows like a dark knight...

>>22031790
>women are all incapable sluts that require constant supervision
objectively true

>>22036663
Bitches fighting other bitches because one knew how to play the others to her advantage and get ahead of everyone and ditch them.

>>22033395
>They cannot survive without chaos, hate and drama.
...
So 90% of anons on this board are women/woman minded then?

>>22028589
its a seanigger pinoy proverb, OP is unironically from the monkeys of the philippines

>>22036490
Her contract allowed her to leave with everything she got during her time in the company so she did and took her yuribait partner with her to go make money without having anyone take cuts.

>>22036135
I already unsubbed from her. I never watched her content once anyway.

>>22036490
when you have genmates that hate you like this, there's no point being in a corpo when they all work together to sabotage you.

They shouldn't hate the player, but hate the game and Lumi played them all.

>>22031295
posting cunny

>>22036135
>good singer
>can dance and keep practice
>speaks good japanese
>japanese visa+stable and good income job over there
>but doxbeat, numberfag and whore
so close yet so far

>>22037381
Yes, are you new?

>>22036135
>cuckbeats keep destroying shit
>if you like something in the vtubing sphere, cuckbeats will destroy it
Cuckbeats... why...

>>22037650
So confirmed graduating from her shit company and reincarnating in HoloEN3 this summer?

>>22037596
>played them
This comes off more like Lumi lifting up the lid on the insides of Cyberlive, looking in, then running away screaming.

>>22026245
yet another clear reason why women should never have been allowed to vote

Western vtubers were a mistake. The biggest of mistakes.

>>22037741
they already filled EN3 with nepotism hires

>>22037381
I'd post that /vt/sisters image, but I don't have it saved.

>>22027056
Male anons
>as the 1st word suggests are male, rendering them superior by default

Female anons
>post tits or gtfo

>>22037920
Inexorable truth.

>>22037853
So Gura is getting Bea in?

So whats the deal with Inoor and Hylo? I never saw a connection with the 2 but Inoor follows her like a dog

>>22038014
There is another Ina artist friend that will challenge Sana at streaming less as possible

>>22037385
you just outed yourself as a fucking seanigger, you fucking retard

>>22037333
Probably one of the ones who didn't say anything in any of the screencps

>>22037385
>its a seanigger pinoy proverb
why do flipniggers always assume the world is revolving around them? I blame schizophrenia

>>22038190
Chapipi would never do it....

>>22028589
Congratulations on being the most retarded person in a retarded thread, the crab thing is also one of the biggest memes on /ic/.

>>22028589
based bait

>>22038190
>one of the ones

>>22037856

>>22038305
Chapipi sees her genmates as stepping stones she can use to reach the top. Victory is all that matters to her, as long as she wins in the end, the end justifies the means. Chapipi is inevitable.

Incel thread.

>>22038190
could be also be the one who said the least harmful stuff in the logs

>>22038055
Hylo was the one spreading rrats about Lumi to Inori and resulted in Inori telling all the rrats to the rest of the gen 2.

I'm an indie vtuber and I personally saw Hylo herself spreading some shittalk about how Lumi is a bitch when she was in CL so there's no doubt that Hylo's very responsible as well.

>>22038578
Woman spotted
Try to genderbend the leaks and see how unrealistic it would look
Cant fault me for hating women when they live like this

So should they acknowledge these getting leaked? It's one thing for a bigger vtuber with viewers in the 1K+ range to avoid this like the plague and act like it never happened but among these smaller girls your image is everything. What if this makes other vtubers wary of collabing since if I recall correctly it was Lumi that did a number of collabs outside the company.

>>22038694
One of them already talked about being blacklisted and prebanned in chats while Lumi has been doing nonstop weekly collabs so far. There's no doubt that the other companies and indies already sided with Lumi on this matter before this got leaked to the public today.

>>22026245
I need a completete rundown on this with a side of fries, thanks.

>>22031133
>the one with the spanish audience is the one with no relation with this drama.
B-but the selfhating kekes told me that community was doom incarnate...

>>22038773
TLDR:
Kaneko Lumi a vtuber of the company Cyberlive had been hard carrying her company for months now as well as taking over the manager position having 2-3 hours of sleep a day until she left the company a week ago. Nobody knew why she left until this leak came out, which pointed out how most of her genmates has been nothing but utter bitches towards her due to Jealousy and rrats.

>>22038773
menace turned her back to /wvt/ after joining a dying small corpo. other cyberlive girls were influenced by her negativity and lumi - who's pretty much an anti-menhera, ray of sunshine type - decided to leave.

>>22027056
HOLY SHIT A TALKING RIB

>>22038681
If someone came to me and started shittalking others I wouldn't be inclined to defend them like Inoor does, you might think of her to be a young and impressionable zoomer but I really don't think she is stupid to fall for whatever bullshit Hylo has to sell

I liked Menace but now I see how fake she can be most of the time. I should probably try to move on to Emma or Chapipi.

>>22037237
>*rapes a chink JK on stream*
>nothing happens except his fujos donate more money
you will see this in your lifetime

>>22038750
This has to be some sort of gypsy curse placed on this company.

>>22038977
it's always the GFE types, isn't it?

>>22031133
>panders to 4chan
For a women moment does this mean she's actually racist?

>>22038977
>Emma
Anon.. https://files.catbox.moe/hqq2vc.png

>>22039053
Lumi acted as a commentator on divegrass.

i will save her from this sinking ship

>>22029355
I literally always think of this when people say "like crabs in a bucket"

>>22039053
Lumi doesnt really care about racist jokes if thats your question. She laughs at them.

>>22029689
yes

>>22038903
>>22038880
This is the most biased bullshit I've ever read. Anti-menhera when she's constantly experimenting, barely sleeps, and only feels alive when she's doing a bunch of shit?

>>22039228
go to bed goober

>>22038694
They're in a shit spot. Either
>the leaks are fake
in which case they have to deny them BUT that would bring more attention to the other leak, which is the alt outfits, or
>the leaks are real
in which case they have to go for the least damaging option, which is to keep quiet, or else they would amplify the scandal. They could also claim the leaks to be fake while they're actually real, but that opens the possibility of Lumi and Yuri calling out the bullshit.

>>22039088
>Basically just says to forget about all this shit and move on
You know shit's bad when the South East Asian is the closest thing to a voice of reason

>>22039137
>>22039158
Based

>>22039228
Who said she was anti menhera? She was menhera in her own way and going crazy due to overworking herself to death for the past few months. For what? a bunch of genmates that hate her and still talk shit about her even after she left the company?

At least Lumi is nice enough to leave the company in good graces when she could have easily revealed all the bad things that happened to her within it. Except now we know and everyone is siding with Lumi.

>>22039322
thank you emma

>>22039270
>>22039356
I just don't think people here should pretend they have a whole story instead of bits and pieces of things. Don't jump the gun.

>>22039314
Wait where's the alt outfit leak, is Chapipi getting new clothes?

>>22039419
but anon, I have the whole story

>>22028371
I remember that thread

>chap doesnt get an outfit
>massacres the company for it

>>22039364
Emma is a turbo ESL, anon, her grammar is never clean.

>>22039431
Chapipi is the only one in CL who's NOT getting new clothes, presumably due to the medical break. You can find all the outfits in this thread >>22017360

>>22039579
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>22027379
women never grow up mentally, that's why the phrase 'manchild' exists for while womanchild doesnt.

This is how women bond

>>22039604
To put it into perspective, even Seina, who makes Ayame look like she's hardworking in comparison, has at least a rough sketch of a new costume.

Vera... I must protect her... Untill the enemy is destroyed...

>>22039686
it's because she isn't monetized yet and can't pay back the first model yet

>>22039579
>>22039604
Reminder that Chapipi had a long medical leave that resulted in her not being around. They were probably designing costumes then and she just misssed it. Now that she's back she can think about what costumes she wants.

>>22039755
So this is why Chappers leaked the discord...

>>22039821
I buy this because it's the funniest rrat

>>22027056
who are yumes?

So Lumi made her Discord clown channel and clown icon right after graduating, because she's upset about recent events?

>>22039999
No, it's because she likes the clown emote.

>>22027056
I dated a /cgl/ femanon once. Had a lot of /cgl/ femanon friends. She was legitimately the most broken woman I'd ever met. Her friends were insane, too. Femanons aren't well adjusted. Not even close.

>>22040052
Did you enjoy it?

This is why you didn't make it to Niji or Holo.

>>22040110
/thread

>>22040110
> didn't make it to Niji
These discord leaks are nothingburger compared to Niji weekly leaks lol

>>22040086
She was a whore who was really good at fucking, so yes. She was still insane though and I didn't stick around too long. I think femanons get worse issues from being this site than men do.

>>22040052
We're all a bit crazy regardless of gender lol

>>22026339
its ok, i manager larp in my oshis thread

>>22040250
Whatever you say Menace

>>22026245
>Watch small corpos they say
>Vtubers are better outside of Nijis and holos they say

>>22035160
>Kiki
Wait, she's the underage the oritinal drama talked about?

>>22040505
yep

>>22040505
no its retardation

>>22040505
no kek people are trying to deflect

>>22040394
I wish menace would die

>>22026245
>Previous manager goes AWOL for months and almost destroys the company through inaction before finally being fired
>Current manager and most of the remaining talents implicating themselves in this retarded drama because they made the rookie mistake of talking shit in a "private" Discord server
I've completely lost hope that CyberLive's going to pull itself back together at this point.

>>22040052
why the fuck would you...

Which thread has the original leaks? I don’t feel like digging through the archive
Thanks anons

I dont care about what they think of each other, I only care about what they think of me. Where are the leaks where they talk about me?!

>>22026414
wtf is a crab bucket game?
amerimutts and their weird ass descriptions i swear

CL will bounce back, just wait.

>>22040505
no. literally pushed by 2 people who live on /here/

>>22040802
I'm European, but I know what it means. Don't blame your lack of knowledge on origin. You're just retarded.

>>22040790
>>22039579

I love you guys. You all make me feel so mentally stable in comparision.

>>22040418
>being a tribalfag instead of picking out the good chuubas from each groups
You only have yourself to blame

>>22040802
Have you never seen crabs in a bucket, mate?

>>22040784
They'll be fine

>>22040645
>>22040690
>>22040815
cuckpyons coping as usual

>>22026245
>>22026305
>>22026645
>>22031533z
I AM COME A LIGHT INTO THE WORLD, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH ON ME SHOULD NOT ABIDE IN DARKNESS.
Dating an underage druggy GFE 4chan vtuber? A doxxer mod? Atstroturfing? Backstabbing left and right? Money laundering?
What follows is verifiable with the archive, despite attempts to erase it, and is made of facts.

Since New Year, Cyberlive Menace (past wvt Megbert) has been scheming behind Cyberlive Lumi's back.
To understand why, we need to go back to September 20211, when Lumi created a collab discord to prepare the group collab with Pippa (4chan pink bunny) and Kiki (4chan black bunny).
But... why Kiki who had just debuted, no experience nor audience, was magically invited in a collab with 2 vtubers 10x her size? Well, a few weeks priors Kiki started dating Virial, one of Lumi's mod. What a coincidence.
This collab tripled her regular audience. Kiki got other benefits like tech/network (e.g. https://files.catbox.moe/j3qmuw.png)) or priority acess to Lumi's artist skipping months of wait, for her fan-funded new model. She had very generous fans loving the possessive GFE (or WFE, with IRL ring etc) unaware she dated Virial.

More vtubers joined, like Shirara (future Phase Co), Megbert (pre Menace), Beatani (for Pippa collab), Feef or Eira.
Kiki was very chatty in Discord, she was in her element.... because Kiki was actually one of the most (in)famous users of /r9k/ Discords, under the names Nicky/Bunke. She spent her days there, and dated users and sent nudes for benefits, while being 14-16yo. At 17yo she dated Virial by lying about her age, only to admit it later. Virial later broke up with her and alerted the Discord about Kiki's age and mental illnesses such as pathological lying.
This would come into play later.

Just before New Year, shortly after Menace's debut, another Lumi's mod "Sei", was exposed for doxxing/manipulating vtubers and spamming /wvt/ with gore/horse cocks/futa on many IPs.
Sei wasn't fazed and instead gloatedly mocked his victims in the Discord. For Menace, old wvt regular/friend, this was unbearable....
She made a plan : framing Sei for leaking this Discord. Being harmful to Cyberlive would be taken seriously and required action.
The next day, she left the Discord
Shortly after Cyberlive was contacted with "evidence of Sei's leak" by an "anonymous source" claiming to have received those from Sei.
he next day, Sei was erased. But came back quickly with a new name.

Seeing this, she was dejected and posted her leak on /pyon/ and /trash/ https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/trash/thread/44587090/#44587475
Interestingly, all mentions of Bunke/Nicky were suddenly gone from the archive nyafuu (RIP), but are still present in other archives: >>/vt/?task=search2&search_text=bunke&search_ord=old
All mentions until Jan 5, 2022 will not be found in https://archive.alice.al/ (new nyafuu home). She had to prove being bunke to erase it and it happened just after the private leak about her.
Meanwhile, Lumi's group was not fooled by this.... after careful investigation of the few possible culprits everyone knew it could only be Menace. Timings matched up. Old leaks were found in wvt all pointing to her even writing style.
Kiki was targeting the same audience of lonely Gosling 4channers, also a "possessive GFE". The next day Kiki was warned by Lumi's team about Megbert, and mentioned her out of nowhere in reply to the "anti' posts >>/vt/thread/S16110174#p16123245

Many new anti posts in /pyon/ and in /vtleague/ popped up, many against Kiki as new evidences showed even worse about Kiki, including the fact she sent 2 people in jail over false charges. More decisive evidences comparing both bedroom made it obvious : >>/vt/thread/17288356/#17290976
Lumi confronted her staff about Menace's situation but in front of their inaction, decided to count the allies she had left, and leave for good with them, leaving Cyberlive, the leaker still there. Indeed, Megbert had made no attempt to even discuss the topic before leaking such sensitive information about a minor.
And yes, all the screenshots were authentic and /pyon/ has been donating to Kiki, making her their whole life, her a 17yo girl discord fanatic and have 0 respect for her fans of course, had basically been lying about every single thing from the start.
Lumi's anti amount also increased at this date. It's important to note Lumi always had her own public discord but not much the others.
However, Menace (megbert) actually created a private discord to invite other CyberLive girls she judged unfamiliar with Lumi, and fed them with narratives about that girl, Makin them hates her more and more.
As you see in the screenshot from today, making such discord to shit talk sems common. The staff of CyberLive is almost invisible, they never invested in this, and the official manager was fired, leaving Menace with a lot of agency to decide what will be their reality.

OH LONG POST

>>22041014
Shine upon me then

>>22041014

>>22041014
>Feef
This wasn't in any of the leaked screenshots, how do I know you're not pulling shit out of your ass?

>>22041014
>September 20211
So we need to go back to the future?
*Ba dum tss*

>>22041014
half of this is bs

>>22031133
???
When did lumi ever mention growing up poor though she tends to say more the opposite
As for pandering to 4chan idk last year but what does she does now that is pandering? the woman hat?

>>22041014
BASED AND TRUE

>>22041097
nta perhaps it wasn't relevant, but I can also confirm she was in the discord

>>22041395
Based on what? Did Feef admit to it?

>>22041431
the entire member list was leaked at one point, he was there.

>>22038773
>>22039228
see >>22041014

>>22038903
>pretty much an anti-menhera
>rich girl with private singing, piano, and figure skating teachers lying about being poor for sympathy points is an anti menhera
lmao

>>22028589
of course anon because crabs dont exist in other countries

>>22041482
source on her lying about that? on streams she has always pushed the idea that she came from wealth

>>22041482
You dont have to be rich to know about these things, Lumi said her grandma forcefully taught her these things when she was growing up.

>>22039809
She has at least one really big gachikoi who dumped $1k on her on her comeback stream + more at other points.

>>22041452
>rightoid pandering Kiki and pippa hanging out with a transgender person
Do none of these people have a sincere belief

>>22041603
they probably didnt know kek

>>22041603
You can dislike a person and still be civil.

>>22041482
I have no idea where Inori got the idea she grew up poor. Maybe it's projection?

>>22037853
>>22038063
Angry 0 viewer /asp/ hands wrote this post

>>22041603
>pippa
Anon you lack CRITICAL information.

God I wish Emma would fart on me

>>22041014
I still don't really understand, am I supposed to conclude that Menace hated Lumi because she brought Kiki (who seems to be an unlikeable basket case) success and she had a mod who was generally a fucked up person? I've heard much much worse reasons to hate someone.

>>22041654
It's true kiki was in there after all
most members were happy when she left and she cried to pippa to get back in after

>>22041452
Do you have it?

>>22041722
Pippa is as left as they come kek

>>22041555
>>22041664
https://twitter.com/lumikaneko/status/1460793648451358729?t=oGimGq_6MHDGjsvQdXwpPg&s=19
This + talking about how shitty her living space & the like was pretty often

>>22041885
shes a college student what do you expect?

>>22041014
Cool story Sei

>>22041739
Menace hated Lumi because Sei was her mod who bragged about shitting on /wvt/ in /trash/. Since Menace thought of /wvt/ as her family, she wanted to defend them and by destroying Sei and Lumi, she shall get her redemption. She also hated Kiki because Kiki was stepping on her toes by doing 4chan GFE which is what she originally wanted to do. By destroying Kiki she had no more competition in order to become the best GFE vtuber on /vt/.

>>22041885
The concensus is she fucked off from doing what her parents wanted her to and supports herself through her Master's program. She's said as much multiple times.

>>22041932
Either him or Zia but most of it is true anyway

>>22041014
Reminder that the person posting this is a mod for Lumi who used to collect doxx related to 4chan vtubers with the help of his mod status

Why is Kiki's name being dragged through the mud for a drama about CL?
Is it because she made a vague post about karma earlier today?

>>22042114
hi kiki!

>>22042114
yep

>>22042048
Nonono he lost his modship and had to leave just ignore the fact that he came back like 2 days later as Melancholic

>>22042137
It's funny how he always have this doxxing spree meltdowns whenever him or Lumi is under fire for something, it works I guess

>>22042048
And? There is proof (in the linked archives) how is the person who made the post relevant? Keep deflecting

2view company drama is pretty hilarious.
>western vtubers acting like western vtubers
>/thread

>>22042114
Kiki can you please play Garry's Mod on stream

>>22042114
Because it worked for Sei/Melancholic once in the past when he was outed as a doxxing faggot. He posted this just as people started shitting on Lumi for still having him around. I'm pretty sure the guy is holding into a bunch of shit related to /here/vtubers to post whenever him or Lumi makes a yab

>>22041555
>always pushed the idea that she came from wealth
if that is the case why does she always bragged that she needs to work as an underaged girl just to have money back then? Another redflag is that she literally says she is a kleptomaniac on stream and most people who are like that are pathological liars.

Eating up her shit is just as bad as eating up Megberts shit, both are massive whores but atleast Megbert doesnt keep doxxniggers like Sei at arm's length after knowing what he did. Pretty sure Lumi is aware on the faggotry that Sei is doing and won't be surprised if she is a nigger like him too

>>22039088
I don't see anything wrong there. She looks like she's the only one not affected by PMS.

>>22042114
>Kiki was targeting the same audience of lonely Gosling 4channers, also a "possessive GFE". The next day Kiki was warned by Lumi's team about Megbert, and mentioned her out of nowhere in reply to the "anti' posts >>/vt/thread/S16110174#p16123245
read nigga

>>22042409
She dares not acknowledge Lumi's existence. This is aleady worthy of being stoned to death.

>>22041739
No, because she didn't do anything about Sei, and let him parading around, semes there was already bad blood with sei before sinnce he gave lot of money to lumi so yeah

>>22042290
I would assume this kind of basic bitch catty behind-the-backs "drama" also happens just as well in japanese vtuber circles, we just aren't exposed to it as much because most people here don't speak any lick of japanese and wouldn't know where to look in the first place

>>22042622
ESL nigger PLEASE go back to school

>>22042629
Maybe, but my EOP ignorance is bliss.
The enjoyment of hearing a woman and not being a able to understand the dumb shit she's saying. That's the best of both worlds.

>>22042137
Well to be fair, melancholic isn't a mod, could be worse!

Now Kiki is crying on stream again

>>22026583
Snow bitch will do anything Lumi says! She has the most clout!

>>22042048
I'm not sure why you say "reminder" when the post itself says that Sei was a doxxer

>>22042884
Made her own bed

>>22042776
Amen

>>22042884
>crying
weird way to spell manipulating

>>22042884
Retard shouldn't have been tweeting in order to draw attention to herself.

>>22041982
Eh, not the usual ESL.
Not sure about Sei's nationality though.

>>22042863
Yeah, him still being in close contact with Lumi & the other mods but not technically being a mod himself is such a huge difference

>>22041674
Lumi was a 0 view until she rebranded to have her boobs out in a startup company.

>>22042884
What a dumb bitch

>>22041674
>Angry 0 viewer /asp/ hands wrote this post
wow just like Lumi before she got hired by cyberlive

>>22041759
>>22041654
>>22041603
Well, at this point no use hiding it
Yes, Kiki left after pic related.
She kept pinging Bea a lot without getting any answer, until.... yes.

>>22043730
Isn't this exactly what Kiki is doing now?

>>22043730
holy based. nothing but the truth.

>>22043730
while this is true, its fucking hilarious coming from someone who has mental breakdowns and possibly hallucinates to the point of scratching and cutting herself to hell

>>22027379
I was with you until you called the lean arc a serious yab.

>>22043730
Wow. How crazy do you have to be to get called out by another menhera.

>>22043924
women are hypocrites, what's new

>>22043924
>>22043975
....but there was no actual scratching/cutting though, at least not in real life

>>22044013
sure thing bea

>>22043924
broken clock is right twice a day

>>22042114
Dragged trough the mud? It's just saying the truth, sorry that your oshi is what she is I guess

>>22043730
It's been known someone said something about Kiki in the discord but didn't know if the message has ever been posted this is hilarious

>>22043730
>that piss poor attempt at censoring Beatani

also, just for a sec delving into rrats
the girl the rrat is based around was being groomed by a pedo and she realized what was happening and reported it
and somehow this is bad? are you guys seriously defending a pedo and blaming the girl?
how fucking sick in the head are you?