/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22032498
>making HoloEN break into mainstream
How is that a good thing?

>>22032498
>making HoloEN break into mainstream

>mainstream
That's why

>making HoloEN break into mainstream
Cuckbeat genocide when?

>>22032498
Despacito
Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito
Deja que te diga cosas al oído
Para que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo
Despacito

>>22032539
Probably not good for you, but good for them. Ya know, business stuff.

>>22032582
>>22032557
>>22032549
>>22032539
>Suddenly numbers are bad when it's generated by the pink woman

>>22032604
>brand is good
>creativity is bad
>money is good
>personality is bad
>don't say bad things about corpo
>we must grow further
>we must leave core fans
>more money
>more money
>more money
>more money
>more money

>>22032604
/vt/ has a pathological hatred of pink girls.

>>22032498
Her musis is shit and her stream are shit. Gura is actually fun to watch. That dummy always makes me laugh. Mori is just pure cringe.

>>22032498
the dirty hand of nipplesanji writes this

>becomes a sellout to break into the mainstream.
>had to rely on Gura to even get 1 song to break 1 million in the first day when she hasn't been able to do it on her own.
>delays finale TTRPG to do a TTRPG with Trash Taste.
>Even delayed TTRPG isn't going to make the promised mide-April new date.
Mori sucks because she's a two-faced liar. Being successful hasn't changed that.

>>22032672
Is pippa pink?

>>22032498
>that is making HoloEN break into mainstream
you got it the wrong
hololive breaking into the mainstream is what gave us the abomination called holoen

>>22032604
Literally yes, because not all numbers are made up of the same group of people you retard. Big numbers in EN is NEVER a good sign. It usually means you either have a reddit fanbase like Mori's Trash Taste following, or you've captured menhera Ping Pong Wangs like Vox or your fanbase are a bunch of children.

The bigger Mori gets, the more children, retarded redditors and e-celeb fanbases she'll bring to vtubing.

>>22032808
>becomes a sellout to break into the mainstream
What does sellout even mean what's wrong with music contracts

>>22032808
>Delays stream ideas for music projects
>Music projects actually land her in Universal
Do you think vtubing is exclusively about streaming or something?

>>22032498
>Mainstream
Fuck this. Like, fully fuck this. I want those girls to succeed to high heaven, but you know what happens when you break into the main? Big corpos that know how to milk the mainstream want their own slice, so they peddle their own shit fuelled by decades worth of knowledge on how to bait normies, so the girl you thought was "making it" gets replaced by some awful soap-opera talent.
Meanwhile all the companies that built the foundation either have to gear up to compete or get bought out entirely and all of a sudden you have media consolidation and more legal landmines across the industry so mainstream faggots can turn a profit. Look forward to supporting that one corpo who bought out exclusivity to play Sony published games, or see whole vtubers lose access to their rigger because they become an exclusive contractor.
Gura is unapologetically herself and that's all I want from her, the path to "success" you think Calli is chasing is a fake dream, hit the big number because that's what the media tells you is good before they strip all ownership and identity away from your accomplishments.
Mainstream i.e. seeing people around you "casually" enjoy something you were once passionate about but now have to put on this lethargic mask of "ironic" enjoyment because now every social gathering is full of cunts that can't embrace shit on a meaningful level if it has even the slightest chance of being considered cringe.

>>22033658
Meds

>>22032498
>literally the only person that is making HoloEN break into mainstream
i understand that you don't like her, but there is no reason to make a thread solely to criticize and harass her.

>got laughed out of /hlgg/
>got laughed out of /morig/
>screeches and makes a falseflag thread

And you would've done more productive things, or fun things without being this obessesed.

>>22033105
>What does sellout even mean what's wrong with music contracts
Big media labels always screw over their talents. Always. You already see this happen with Suisei getting copyright strikes over singing her own songs.
These dumb bitches deserve everything the get for being sellouts. No holomems are ever going to sing/play their songs ever in fear of getting copyright strikes themselves.

>>22033011
I dunno how to tell you this but 2020 was already the point of no return.

>>22032808
>>delays finale TTRPG to do a TTRPG with Trash Taste.
this isn't true

How is it that Lamy is an alcoholic and it makes her cuter, but Mori is an alcoholic and it makes her an asshole?
That's not fair

>>22034011
You're exceptionally retarded

>>22032498
Someone actually should make a template with mori and "Owned by UMG" and put DMCA signs in every thread about her with her images.
Better than "nice thread Miko".

>>22032498
You can tell people here are SEAnigs. Also subhuman garbage like >>22032588.

They just shifted from Kiara to Mori because those are their niggerdly way.

>>22034093
true but that is no reason to stop disliking this behavior/audience

Why is Suesei's latest single out performing miss mainstream? Seems people prefer Suesei by herself over with the woman who is going to take over the Japanese music scene

>>22032498
>mori validation thread
chinchama...

>>22034245
Lamy is an alcohol connoisseur.
Calli is a filthy drunk.

>>22034426
suisei is more popular in japan.

>>22034245
Mori is American.

>>22033011
>children
and you're part of that demographic

>>22032498
Mainstream is bad look where it got us. Now we have not one but 2 generations of EN whores to "PuSh ThE MaInStReAm" fuck off. Hololive was better when there was less of you fags wanting more, when we just appreciated what we had. I will not watch your EN whores. I have far more in common with the nijinigs than holoEN tards because at least nijinigs are funny.

>>22034011
Suisei didn't get copyright striked

>>22033256
>doesn't make her music
>the only part she writes is the worst and defended as "quirky"
>her latest song has bad numbers and poor reviews
>he thinks it was talent and not connections that landed her in universal
It's almost like you're still not old enough to visit this website.

>>22034149
It literally happened.
She announced TTRPG finale, and the day she played with TT she delayed it.
Stop drinking purple liquids, it's bad for your brain.

>>22032498
People are dumb.

>>22037057
I feel particularly nice today so I'll spoonfeed you.
the TT announcement came first, then she scheduled the myth finale (to the date before the TT stream).
She delayed the myth finale later, admitting that she scheduled it out of fear of internet rrats and decided that she doesn't want to rush it. It would be better if the campaign was ironed out instead of rushed, no?
The way you're describing it is like if the myth finale was always going to happen on that day, then she delays it to make time for TT. Just factually wrong.
>the day she played with TT she delayed it.
literally how would that happen when the original myth finale date was before the TT broadcast you retard?

Now do the board a favor and kill yourself

>>22037216
Hello Mori.

>>22037240
backpedal harder

>>22033105
turning her entire work as Mori into copyright/claim bait is dumb and shortsighted on covers part, whats the point in making her music more popular if nobody but her can perform it?

anyone else feeling the burnout from hololive? it's starting to get boring to be honest. i'm planning on taking a break for a week and see what happens maybe watch some nijis too

>>22037216
Fucking hell...the cope...how delusional do you have to be to be able to believe all those convenient bullshits?

>>22032498
mainstream can go fuck right off together with Mori.

>>22032672
Reminder that pink girls do nothing wrong!

This is retarded in more ways than one because you’re still implying mori is somehow more popular/brought in more normies than gura.

>>22037380
Not an argument + poor English + buzzwords + you're brown

>>22034426
Suisei is just jealous of Mori's success.

>>22037546
saw this image on the front page. Who is this girl?

>>22037216
>the TT announcement came first
She prioritized TT over the months long campaign with myth
>then she scheduled the myth finale (to the date before the TT stream).
She realized people would rightfully call her out on her bullshit and would be a bad look to go with her anituber faggot friends instead of her gen memebers, so she tried to squeeze the finale
>She delayed the myth finale later, admitting that she scheduled it out of fear of internet rrats and decided that she doesn't want to rush it. It would be better if the campaign was ironed out instead of rushed, no?
She had months in advance to prepare the finale but instead she was to busy with TT to do it
Also, this selfish cunt made every other myth member adapt their calendars to squeeze the finale and then she cancels at the last minute, absolutely no regard for other people times (specially with ame moving)
FIFY, True Dead Cuck™

>>22032498
>>22032604
Numbers have been bad since the /jp/ days. It's actually amazing how every single cuckbeat manages to out themselves as a complete newfag without fail.

>>22037546
Don't become one of them. Mori wouldn't want this (probably)

>>22037310
that is not how copyright works

>>22037664
Just remind them that no matter how bad a rapper she is, for a vtuber, she's still pretty good.

>>22032604
Yes? /#/ is cancer. It's all autists and SEAniggers.

>>22037628
Myth campaign not continuing wasn't on her, retard.
>made every other myth member adapt their calendars
I'm sure you know what's going on between the girls, lol.

>>22037664
this doesn't apply outside of /morig/.
Remember that for every website, there's an adage that about 90% people who visit it are lurkers.
when antis post their completely factually wrong shit with nobody to call them out on it, these lurkers end up accepting it as fact.
you need at least a bit of resistance because any sapient person will realize that her antis are pulling shit out of their ass once you poke holes in their schizophrenic narratives.

>>22037822
>lurkers are being indoctrinated
they can literally turn on one of her streams and see for themselves that she's terrible
they can attempt to listen to her "music"
she's the one creating her haters

>>22037730
>for a vtuber, she's still pretty good.
XD

>tfw you let a choice one rip

>>22032498
Used to support her back when she was still an amateur and her originals were honestly all bad. Still, I always believed that she would improve and do better. But after countless yabs she did, and lying to fans, I just gave up on her. And current deadbeats right now feels more like newfags more than anything, doesn't feel like when they were at debut.

>>22033658
Based

>>22032498
gee i wonder why everyone hates her

>>22037891
i think that's just your completely psychotic perception of the world speaking

>>22032498
>doesn’t matter if she’s not entertaining to watch
>regardless of how active gura streams she will always mog mori in almost every category
>cuckbeats reaching for the stars because she got an additional leash on her shitty music that can’t even reach 1M in day 1 with suisei of all talents.

>>22032498
makes bad music and is white, into the bin she goes.

>spread obvious falsehoods and straight up lies
>get called out and btfo
>"w-well... her music is shit!!!"
Cope

>>22032498
>mainstream
Nothing "anime" is going truly mainstream.

>>22032498
>implying break into main stream is a good thing

>>22038589
Doesn't need to be 'truly' mainstream, it just needs to be big enough. Just look at Crunchyroll being bone-cancer tier pozzed (and taking anime streaming in the West with it), or Netflix pumping jew money into anime originals, or outside /vt/ stuff look at how Hasbro/WotC managed to completely annihilate tabletop games.

>>22038589
This. Lol if any of these faggots ever watched any big twitch streamer or celeb they’d know these fuckers hate anime to their core and see vtubing as cringe. Only member that’s wildly known is gura and even she’s not always received well sometimes. Take that into perspective, most mainstream heads know gura and not the one who sold her soul to a record label kek

>>22037380
But that's what happened. She's that insecure and also such self-centered bitch that she would announce collab on whimp and cancel it last minute, without any care in the world that she fucked up schedule for other girls.

>>22033658
Holy based.

>>22032498
>making HoloEN break into mainstream
Hololive is already mainstream the moment it got traction in 2020.

>>22037822
>Myth campaign not continuing wasn't on her, retard.
It literally was on her retard. She was the one that cancelled it last minute. Myth needed to make quick change in plans due her selfishness and Kiara organised drawing collab in campaign place. All other myth girls were present. You would know it if you cared about hololive deadbrat.

>>22039100
Learn to read you impoverished daft nigger. I said that the myth campaign not continuing thorough the months isn't on her.
Her only fault here is listening to /vt/ rrats, which I had already admitted. And delaying the campaign to make sure it has a proper ending instead of a rushed one proves that she does care about her genmates.

Don't forget that your deranged little narrative was originally:
>she won't do another myth TTRPG because she hates hololive
>she did a TT rpg because she cares about TT more
>she delayed myth TTRPG to make time for TT
all of these points can be popped like soap bubbles
>voices inside of your head
>see above
>easily proven false just by looking at the fucking dates
and right now all you can muster is "well... she delayed it! how could she!" (she made a spur of the moment decision to host the myth rpg early without proper preparation, and apologized for it)
Keep backpedaling though. I'm done spoonfeeding you, Mori is streaming.

Man, I'd love some of the copium Deadbeats are on in this thread. There were literal months where Mori could have finished up the campaign. She instead chose to do one with TT and realized how bad of a look it would be so she quickly tried scheduling the Myth finale beforehand but managed to fuck that up too. Instead of delaying the TT one she delayed the Myth one. This isn't rocket science.