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>> No.21995243
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>>21995226
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.21995275

This is a reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

>> No.21995284

>>21995275
lives*

>> No.21995298

>>21995243
Good Lord, get some fucking sleep, rannyanon.

>> No.21995301
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>>21995226
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>34,076: Subaru (Hololive)
>31,050: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>24,885: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>18,448: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>18,103: Noel (Hololive)
>15,548: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,666: Gura (Hololive)
>14,166: Ponpoko (Indie)
>13,757: Mio (Hololive)
>13,044: Laplus (Hololive)
>12,861: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,673: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,156: Mysta (Nijisanji)

>> No.21995374

>She will not double EN collab numbers
she did
>She will not get gold with a shill stream
she did
>She will not get 80k again
Waiting...

>> No.21995398

>>21993187
Funny thing is that every moves VSPO actually do remind me of every moves Hololive do in early years except VSPO focus on FPS streamers

>> No.21995422
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>>21995301
APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game

> PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
1x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
2x: Aqua, Okayu
1x: Hal, Calli, Subaru

>> No.21995425

>>21995243
Ranni is flat

>> No.21995440

>>21995301
it must be absolutely nervewracking for Mysta to have to think of new stream ideas so as to not drop below 10k CCV

>> No.21995538
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>>21994840
That number is not CCV but the in stream "VOD views".
>>21994956
The poor girl things it was a "display bug" but her VOD is already on the 5k range.

Either she got "reverse CCVID cull" (which I doubt) or she crossed paths with someone huge, maybe not a vtuber but fps_shaka.
I don't think it was a bug, something happened that funneled her with that many viewers.

She's cute too, I could see this shining a light into her and she making into VSPO in the future

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>>21995226
*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY*

>2966: Moona (HololiveID)
>2910: Kaela (HololiveID)
>2711: Reine (HololiveID)
>780: Hyona (Nijisanji ID)
>661: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>510: Mika (Nijisanji ID)
>467: Zen (MAHA5)
>311: Siska (Nijisanji ID)
>310: Hana (Nijisanji ID)

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>>21995226
*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY*

>898: Linglan Lily (Cloud Horizon)
>761: Mizuki (Meridian Project)
>553: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>481: Chilla Behemes (Storia)
>456: Padko (Square Live)
>444: No. Fifteen (Rescute)
>337: HaiZ (Monstar)
>329: Obear (Rescute)
>285: Amrzs (Monstar)
>281: Margaret Winters (Cloud Horizon)
>226: Olda (Monstar)

>> No.21995680

>>21995594
moona gold twice this month right?

>> No.21995686

>>21995440
I unironically think he should just bite the bullet and start streaming normally, without that celebration spam bullshit and properly build his floor. It might tank his numbers for a bit, but it shouldn't take that long (3-4 months max?) to raise his median back to 8k-10k range.

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>>21995301
>literally no heavy hitter stream on Holo side
>still gold
It's time to admit that Hololive is #1

>> No.21995766

>>21995374
who

>> No.21995781
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>>21995226
>YOUTUBE GOLD PLAY BUTTON
1) Gawr Gura - 3,910,000
2) Kizuna Ai Main - 3,090,000
3) Mori Calliope - 2,020,000
4) Usada Pekora - 1,910,000
5) Shirakami Fubuki - 1,870,000
6) Houshou Marine - 1,870,000
7) Inugami Korone - 1,790,000
8) Hololive Official - 1,690,000
9) Watson Amelia - 1,640,000
10) Minato Aqua - 1,580,000
11) Kizuna Ai Games - 1,510,000
12) Shirogane Noel - 1,460,000
13) Kiryu Coco - 1,440,000
14) Sakura Miko - 1,420,000
15) Hoshimachi Suisei - 1,410,000
16) Ninomae Ina'nis - 1,380,000
17) Nimu Spacecat - 1,370,000
18) Nekomata Okayu - 1,360,000
19) Akai Haato - 1,350,000
20) Takanashi Kiara - 1,350,000
21) Oozora Subaru - 1,300,000
22) Nakiri Ayame - 1,250,000
23) Kuzuha - 1,240,000
24) Natsuiro Matsuri - 1,230,000
25) Tsunomaki Watame - 1,200,000
26) Amane Kanata - 1,170,000
27) Kson - 1,160,000
28) Shishiro Botan - 1,120,000
29) Moona Hoshinova - 1,040,000
30) Kureiji Ollie - 1,020,000
31) Tokoyami Towa - 1,000,000

>GOLD PLAY BUTTON BY BRANCH
19x: Hololive JP
5x: Hololive EN
2x: Hololive ID
1x: Nijisanji JP
0x: Nijisanji EN
0x: Nijisanji ID
0x: Nijisanji KR
2x: Kizuna Ai Inc.
2x: Independent

>GOLD PLAY BUTTON PER COMPANY
26x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji
2x: Kizuna Ai Inc.
2x: Independent

>> No.21995808

>>21995766
My wife

>> No.21995837

>>21995686
He should do that before the next wave of 20 NijiEN members join later this year.
Anycolor knows exactly the type of guy to look for now that Luxiem was a big success.

>> No.21995844

>>21995594
>Missing that Chloe girl again
Kek and that anon literally gave you a reminder not a couple hours ago.

>> No.21995848

>>21995686
There's gonna be another wave, possibly mostly male, by then. Their best play is to absolutely min/max the amount of money they can make from the Chinese audience before they get bored or crowded out then go back to streaming normally or fuck off and go be a twitch indie if the numbers drop too low.

>> No.21995878

>>21995742
>yagoo's favorite
>not a heavy hitter

>> No.21995950

>>21995672
>Linglan Lily
Is she the biggest TW on youtube?

>> No.21996037

>>21995848
Which is exactly the reason why he needs to start properly building his floor NOW, so that his viewership won't get hit as bad as the others when Anykara inevitably roll out another 20 males into his branch.

>> No.21996079

>>21995848
I feel awful for them. They got 20 members from the first audition but immediately opened up another audition after Noctyx debuted. Selen really deserves better

>> No.21996113

>>21996079
comes with being a niji

>> No.21996153

>>21996037
That reminds me, I wonder how much longer they can all stream 1-2 times a day for 6+ hours. The more they keep flooding their own branch, the more pressure there is to keep up the stream times or someone else will take your viewership.
>>21996079
Issue is that now they know what works (at least for males). I wouldn't put it past them to hire at least 5 more himbos to keep raking in that SC money.

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>>21995878

>> No.21996184

>>21995950
Yes

>> No.21996234

>>21996153
most of nijiEN probably have nothing better to do

>> No.21996487

Can someone post Council medians

>> No.21996627
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>>21996487
>Can someone post Council medians
I'm working on all of the median of peak CCV for the first 7 days of April 2022 right now.

Here is Luxiem vs. Myth vs. Council 30 days median of peak ccv while the ranking is being done

>> No.21996700

>>21996079
They got 6 from the first audition, 4 from the 2nd, and 10(!) from the 3rd, although 2 and 3 were sort of concurrent just for different genders.

>> No.21996707

Just a reminder that during March the male vtubers with higher median peak CCV than Mysta and Vox were:
>Kuzuha
That's it.
I don't get all the concern about their numbers.
I mean I know that it's holofags coping, but still.

>> No.21996747

>>21996627
Throw Noctyx in there too for laughs.

>> No.21996759

>>21996707
That's more an indictment on the sorry state of NijiJP than whatever you tried to convey with this comment.

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>>21995422
why cant i find the list for january?

>> No.21996801

/#/ is declining.

>> No.21996818

>>21996761
There's no standard way for titles honestly. Keeps changing up.

>> No.21996835
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>>21996747
The title is wrong (should say "Council" instead of "Myth") but the data is correct.
I'm also working on making all EN gens: Holo Myth, Hope, Council, and Niji Lazulight, Obsydia, Ethyria, Luxiem and Noctyx

>> No.21996839

Does anyone have a site that tracks views over time I swear Capsule has gained steam after it's debut. It's at 860K now so it'll make 1M in <1 week pretty easily.

It's pretty impressive how hard Mori and Suisei dominate the original music lists. Think how a minor twist of fate might have had them stay independent, join a different corp, or never take up vtubing. Maybe Niji would be a music juggernaut in another timeline

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>>21996761
That was smack in the middle of CCVID. The daily tally is named "2022-01-12 top.jpg" (for whatever date) so you can always search for that

>> No.21997026

>>21995672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nji7MTsWe2Q
Will repost this every time she wins

>> No.21997033
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>>21996894
Here is the tally one week or so before that
>DON'T LOOK AWAY!
Look at this and think before complaining about "too high numbers"

>> No.21997067

>>21996835
fulgur was right...

>> No.21997083

>>21997033

that yashiro hayato chaika stream getting 20k even with ccvid....

>> No.21997124

>>21996835
Why not add HoloID in there too since they seem to be on par with Niji females

>> No.21997141

>>21996759
Just a reminder that during March the EN vtubers with higher median peak CCV than Mysta and Vox were:
>Gura
>Mori
>Ina
That's it.
I don't get all the concern about their numbers.
I mean I know that it's holofags coping, but still.

>> No.21997146

>>21997083
IIRC the 2021 version of that got some 40k

>> No.21997193

>>21996835
Holy shit that Noctyx freefall. Would delaying them have helped? They don't seem willing to embarrass themselves to the same degree of Vox and company so maybe they just weren't able to tap the same market

>> No.21997227

>>21997141
You should compare Mysta and Vox with JP talents since they stream on JP hours and target the same audience.

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>>21996801
Hey man.

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>>21997124
I'll assume you guys missed this yesterday
>>21949267
>>21948830
>>21948140
>>21947296
>>21947693
>>21939710
(and more, walk that last post backwards)

>> No.21997279

>>21996839
It is gaining steam, and the odds are if it keeps it up it’ll hit 1M by tomorrow possibly. I don’t know about a site but I’ve watched it since yesterday and it’s gained a good 120-140k in a day. And you know Mori’s got legs on her songs

>> No.21997308

>>21996835
Yeah Noctyx didn't do as good as they expected

>> No.21997368

>>21997279
Heh Mori just broke through 450K monthly listeners on Spotify. She was at 417 or so in February so she's actually accelerating a bit there. Also Capsule has 130k streams on Spotify as well. Her music is incredibly fragmented across platforms/media but that shit adds up.

>> No.21997369

>>21997193
>>21997308
Truth be told the only reason their average was that high in their first month is because their debut was on the second to last day of February

>> No.21997415

>>21997193
Probably not, Mysta and Vox were just the right people at the right time in the right market. Noctyx isn't that much worse than Ike and Shu. Also keep in mind they were the people who didn't make cut for Luxiem and got called back when they were so successful (and got hastily scrounged up crappy models). I expect a lot more quality applications for wave 6 with people hungry for that Vox money now that they know EN male vtuber is viable and lucrative.

>> No.21997421

Ah, peace

>> No.21997443

>>21997260
Could you put Vspo in the graph too?
Would really like to see Vspo, NijiEN female, NijiJP female, HoloID in the graph.

>> No.21997461

>>21997415
How many vtuber male prostitutes can the Chinks support before they start cannibalizing each other? Guess we'll find out soon!

>> No.21997469

>>21996835
Do you also have individual?

>> No.21997471

>>21996079
They're doing fine though, pretty much all decently inclined from the early days.

>> No.21997535

I could see a Cover maybe, maybe beating the record but could any original take the #1 spot at this point? Another CalliGura song maybe? Gura announces an Ep/album?

>> No.21997538

>>21996079
They have declined in March. They're experiencing a downtrend with the introduction of Noctyx.

>> No.21997561
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Toko just loves starting these streams with polls when they don't get any clear data.

>> No.21997582

>>21997227
So, you are saying that Kiara should also be compared with JP talents since she streams similar time?
I wouldn't expect anything else from a dumb holotranny.

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>>21997443
>Could you put Vspo in the graph too?
Yes, but not immediately. I still have to scrape vstats backwards to fill some holes on vrabi because of a january glitch

>>21997469
Yes, and posted quite a few of them

>Roberu: >>21983905
>Haachama: >>21976613, >>21976460
>Laplus: >>21975789
>Ame: >>21876531
>Ina: >>21874837
>Calli: >>21868739

I'll do Mumei and take some 3 requests if you guys have

>> No.21997642

>>21997461
Imagine if they get someone who can speak some Chinese but is well-doxxed enough and speaks with an accent so people know he's actually white. And if he's good looking or at least not ugly on top of that.

>> No.21997649

>>21997461
Just take a look at how many JP and EN prostitutes Hololive has debuted throughout the years. There is a market for stuff like that, don't understimate it.

>> No.21997663

>>21997617
Fauna and Bae

>> No.21997698

>>21997141
>Gura
>Mori
>Ina
Ametori was a mistake...

>> No.21997784

>>21997617
Just stop for a moment and appreciate that this person is wasting his life to build programming tools just to obsess over vtuber livestreamer numbers. He literally spends hours of his life counting Yagoo's money.

>> No.21997863

>>21996627
>>21996835
I want to see this graph but only gaming streams. I am curious how popular gaming stream on EN vtuber scene

>> No.21997876

>>21997784
And how many hours do you spend just sitting in here obsessively being angry that Cover is successful and some people find it fun to count numbers? He's practicing useful skills, you're just wallowing in envy

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>it's back

>> No.21997891

>>21997784
>Just stop for a moment and appreciate
Thanks graph anon, you are alright >>21997617

>> No.21997927

>>21997698
KEEP MY WIFE'S (and her girfliend's) NAME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!

>> No.21997990

>>21997876
>he's practicing useful skills
no he's not. He's wasting his time to count yagoo's money.

>> No.21998012

Huh poking around Spotify is sort of fun because the rates are public, uniform, and shitty at around $0.0033 a stream. Mori has a bit over 80M plays so her music has made her $250K-$275K in revenue from Spotify alone (this does not include any other streaming services most notably Youtube). Freaking Spiral Tones has 1.4M plays. And she's openly said she makes almost no money off music streams. Just an interesting data point

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>>21997784
>this person is wasting his life to build programming tools just to obsess over vtuber livestreamer numbers
kek, it's my day job. I need test datasets to build the tools I get handsomely paid to build and what better than something I enjoy to do.

Literally getting paid to numberfag

>> No.21998101

>>21997863
>I want to see this graph but only gaming stream
I started doing that with basic heuristics based on stream title but then I realized I can scrape the stream tags (from playboard) and have an even better heuristics to figure out what the stream is about.

Maybe in a few weeks

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21998115

ok numberfriends I just got back from some heavy researching over that korean Isegye group. In summary they sound more like a kpop idol group than vtuber streamers. Read along for details.


ISEGYE:
>created and owned by 우왁굳의 게임방송 (woowakgood)
>woowakgood is a streamer who seems to do mostly gaming in general, with special mention to minecraft and vrchat mods.
>woowakgood has 1.35M subs on youtube and 824k followers on twitch (making him the 3rd most followed channel in Korea, with the two above them being ESports stuff, so you could say he is the biggest KR streamer)

>ISEGYE IDOL - Idols In Another World - is a project created and owned by woowakgood, and heavily promoted by him, even on his main channel.
>왁타버스 WAKTAVERSE, the group's official channel (technically called a sub-channel) is directly linked on woowakgood's social media.
>it was converted from his own sub-clips channel into waktaverse

MAIN HISTORY:
>in the past, in his streams woowakgood used to randomly select members of his own viewers to interact with him, mostly in vrchat
>and from the above came the idea/project to select 6 fixed members to do that instead. They would continue to participate in his content and even broadcast independently when he would not be online, but still them still belonging to woowakgood.
>although it is known as a project that was started by inspiration from the success of HoloLive, at first, he did not even think of a vtuber using a 2.5D character, and it started as one of the contents of VRChat that is an extension of his own.
>for this reason, fans of isegye also naturally flowed in from woowakgood's broadcasts, so the popular memes in woowakgood's broadcast are also used naturally during each member's broadcast. A unique ecosystem called "Wakta Bus".
>woowakgood and the isegye idols have basically the same fans, who share memes, content, stories, etc together, forming a unique culture. It is often compared to a huge island or continent that is one step away from other streamers in Korea and is clustered around woowakgood, and the barriers to entry are high , so viewers who do not know the broadcasting culture of woowakgood and start watching the broadcasts do not easily adapt.
>basically isegye encountered tremendous success because it drinks from woowakgood's huge fandom which had been developing for 10 years.
>interestingly, Isegye as a topic also seems to be banned on the kr vtuber board because of heavy shilling spamming from supposedly their fans.

>Isegye project applications were opened on late june 2021, with nearly 200 applicants reviewed, and said to have drawn great attention from the start, with many experienced people applying. They were mainly judged in their singing skills and live interview conduct.
>from this pool of applicants woowakgood also selected dance coaches, composers and even a manager. They were more focused on music skills than streaming ones.
>The process took 50 days, and many parts of the selection were broadcasted. The applicants' fanbases also ran campaigns to support their idols, but im not sure if it mattered much to the final say from woowakgood.
>the group started activites in late august/september 2021.

>all the isegye idols' twitch accounts existed before that time and were converted into vtuber accounts, in one way or another, from their viewer accounts. Most were facecammers before, like definitely jingburger, lilpa, cotton and viichan; while gosegu and vo_ine im not sure. They all were known viewers before though, so they had at least some fans prior to joining.
>if you look at their twitch vods library, you'll notice that the majority of their videos have more views than they have followers - which is extremely weird, as even the biggest streamers only get close to that with massive campaigns on streams lasting for far over 10 hours
>there are a few possible explanations of how could they manage to do so: viewbots; embeds (even 1 pixel of the stream running outside twitch or maybe just front-page embeds); or it is woowakgood's 1M+ fanbase constantly getting redirected into the isegye streams, but never bothering to even give them a free sub.
>based on what ive already explained here, seems that the last option is the correct one.

TLDR
>all in all, they seem like elaborate converts in more than one way. Their carried over their own fanbases, their old names were known, they are more an extension of woowakgood metauniverse thing than their own individuals. All of this screams KPOP idol stuff way more than normal vtubers.

>> No.21998218

any bronze contenders today?

>> No.21998281

The 2view schizo is pretty weak with her post today, what happened?

>> No.21998311

>>21998115
Huh. That fits with korean streaming culture.

>> No.21998320

>>21998281
She got a good dicking from me, sorry about her rampant posting.

>> No.21998360

>>21998115
much appreciated. thanks for the info.

>> No.21998365

>>21998115
tl;dr: Korean VShojo (in the sense they took established streamers with no hidden PL and made a group out of them)

>> No.21998379

>>21998281
>her
is it confirmed?

>> No.21998393

>>21998115
good work

>> No.21998401

>>21997927
I'm sorry anon, they might be gay and hot but their numbers suck

>> No.21998443

>>21998379
Pay attention to her way of writing things

>> No.21998449

>>21998115

best post in a while. ty so much for the info

>> No.21998452

>>21998365
maybe if Vshojo was run and constantly shilled by someone like XQC or Hikakin

>> No.21998497

>>21996079
Awful? They receive more money than me with a job I have after years in university. You feel awful like a retard when even the least popular like reimu is receiving more than you per month.

>> No.21998534

>>21997582
baffling post

>> No.21998557

>>21997582
You're making up fairy tales now?

>> No.21998560

>>21998452
So mizkif?

>> No.21998561

>>21998379
>seethes like a woman
>pointlessly verbose
>thinks she's morally right
>hates Suisex
Anon...

>> No.21998586

>>21996079
Nijisanji fans currently have 2x as many people to watch as Hololive fans. And those people all stream 2x as much. So overall Nijisanji fans have 4x as much content to choose from every day.

>> No.21998589

>>21995398
To be fair, VSPO does feel like Hololive pre-2020 boom and without the algo blessing. VSPO is probably what Hololive would've been in a non-covid world without all the incredible luck. A solid alternative to a Japan only niche that is heavily dominated by Nijisanji. We'd all probably still be in /jp/ with Nijifags being smug but comfier Hololive threads in return, with some wondering if vtubing will ever be a thing in the west while others telling to stop being delusional. That'd be a trip.

>> No.21998668
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21998668

>>21998365
I mean, if by ""established"" you understand 2 view shitters who only once crossed 100 viewers before joining, then sure.

>> No.21998718

>>21995848
imo they will debut 6 from that audition as mixed. Like 2 female and 1 male like in June and then 2 male and 1 female like in august or september. Audition ended last month so they need at least about 3 months for the selection and every procedure.
>>21996079
They got 6 from the first audition (2020), 4 for the second audition and 10 for the third audition. I don't believe they'll continue 5, I think they only picked it because they wanted to make male and female numbers equal to each other.

>> No.21998747

>>21998561
>>21998443
well, she might be a man raised and molested by two mother, who knows?

>> No.21998784

>>21998560
>mizkif
in the peak of vshojo's leeching, yes.

>> No.21998830

Here is what hololive English fans have to watch today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G2h6pjLiwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0cauV_jA1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llMnRQTm4Nk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C_KTukM6r8
2 elden ring streams. Powerwash and Kirby from the unwatchable 2 (Sana and Baelz).

Here is what Nijisanji EN fans have to watch today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR-6fR7ANcM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9-MGvd-ZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rD3v_X9MhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLZzClCtJFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wul-3yi5Ej4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXQ-tBTaWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMJkeBzpdkg

Full Lazulight collab. Minecraft collab. Elira's 2nd stream of the day. And Petra's rhythm game stream.

>> No.21998887

>>21998830
wow, the holoEN streams look great, thanks for the links

>> No.21998928

>>21998830
Very good Hololive EN stream today! Thanks for sharing!!

>> No.21998938

>>21998830
It's really a showdown between quantity vs quality type of streamers huh

>> No.21998961

>>21998830
I wonder if Elden ring is going to take the place of Oblivion streams for a while. Bowson's adventures are always fun, although bows are kinda wack in ER. I tried using them early on and it felt like I spent all my currency buying arrows instead of leveling.

>> No.21998965

>>21998830
too bad nijiEN refuses to play elden ring because they cant have scs in them

>> No.21998974

>>21998830

for some reason bae stream wasn't appearing to me. thank you for the help, anon!

>> No.21998984

>>21998938
Listening to garbled english from Sana and Baelz is not quality.
Elden Ring spam is not quality

>> No.21998992

>>21998830
Wow i didnt know Bae was gonna stream today. Thanks for the headsup Anon, keep up the good work!

>> No.21999002

>>21998830
>Full Lazulight collab
+ Secret guest Uki

>> No.21999014

>>21998830
I LOOOOOVE ELDEN RING
I LOOOOOVE COLLABS

>> No.21999023

>>21998830
thanks for the list didn't realise sana was streaming tonight, i'll make sure to check it out

>> No.21999042

>>21999023
Sana is one of the worst vtuber I've ever seen. She's literally unwatchable.

>> No.21999045

>>21998830
As a NijiEN fan the only one I'm remotely looking forward to is Selen's superchat stream lmao
If only someone did something to get NijiEN's Devour, Phasmo, and Crab Game permissions revoked

>> No.21999059

>>21998830
I think this is why NijiEN has considerably declined on March. Collabs even during memberships is just too much.

>> No.21999063

>>21998984
>>21999042
lmao so mad

>> No.21999067

>>21997141
TICK TOCK HOLO FAGS
MALES RUN THIS SHIT

>> No.21999081

>>21998984
But Elden Ring GOTY though... And Kirby cute as fuck.

>> No.21999110

>>21999045
Is this not the first Devour stream? These girls played this before? There's like no fucking content in it if they have, it's why even Gura's Council group never played it again.

>> No.21999131

>>21999059
the games are fucking ass and no one even gets superchats during collab streams so I have no idea why they're spamming them unless they have to fulfill a quota

>> No.21999140

>>21998830
Boys not streaming again? Why did they join EN? I really don't get what their management is thinking.

>> No.21999154
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21999154

>>21998830
>Bae in 50 minutes
>9am East Coast Australia

Excellent. I've been craving for some more chill streams from Bae.

>> No.21999170

>>21999042
you clearly haven't watched her then, she is bright bubbly girl who radiates positivity meanwhile you are a sad bitter subhuman anting anime girls on 4chan

>> No.21999171

>>21999045
Any Lazulight collab is an instant click. It's far too rare

>> No.21999181

>>21999023
when she was near and did the watchalong with kronii where she ambushed her with poorly remembered pop sci information about string theory, I got really excited.

I hope we get more of that sana, just talkin about weird shit she knows for some reason. that's most of the appeal of fauna for me too.

Too bad the wind came out of her sails for a while, but the box won't leave anyone behind.

>> No.21999185

>>21999140
Alban is probably trying to help Nina here.

>> No.21999203

>>21999002
gay is the new straight

>> No.21999205

>>21998984
>>21999042
You're a retard then.

>> No.21999214

>>21999154
She's at her best when she's too tired to act over-excited.

>> No.21999220
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21999220

>>21999170
She's unwatchable. Horrible ugly model. Unlistenable garbled-english voice. Imagine looking at this ugly model for hours

>> No.21999230

>>21999170
she should give her spot to someone who actually wanted it

>> No.21999235

>>21999181
>that's most of the appeal of fauna for me too.
Fauna going on that random fucking string theory tangent during her endurance stream was something else.

>> No.21999247

>>21999220
Sara is cute though.

>> No.21999264

>>21999110
yeah, it's lazy and bad content and I'm a Nijifag

>> No.21999283

>>21999247
Sara is an actual australian. She's like Sana, but better in every way.
Sana is some type of ESL who learn Australian english and sounds terrible

>> No.21999304

>>21999140
I have no fucking idea why the fuck you retards keep with "have no idea what management is thinking" about this. They stream on the time they want, that's it.
Also you ignored alban and uki, same for luca who will stream hours later.
>>21998938
it's more like the case of tribalism and most of the thread only watching hololive..

>> No.21999328

why do you get so mad about people only watching holos, is it like an insecurity thing

>> No.21999342

>>21999235
i lost it listening to her try to explain the transition from prokaryotic to eukaryotic cells with the uwu voice.

then she started talking about drinking the primordial soup

>> No.21999345

>>21999283
An ESL should not be calling another person ESL

>> No.21999348

>>21999110
they already played it before, but honestly I'm pretty satisfied with this collab, it has been ages since I've watched Elira in a collab without a m*le.

>> No.21999350

>>21999328
What are you talking about? I'm watching Finana right now

>> No.21999360
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21999360

Toko morning streams do really well huh. Seems to be always on the 8~10k range

>> No.21999378

>>21998830
>>21999002
>>21999171
It's not a Lazulight collab if Rosemi is in there

>> No.21999415

>>21999059
fyi nijisanji has been inclining for months now

>> No.21999428

>>21999140
I mean their main market is SEA/China. If anything, Luxiem and Noctyx have only reinforced the fact that the western market does not want Male vtubers and that the only path to success for a male is to pander to hambeasts, trannies and fujos. HolostarsEN is going to fail unless they go the Luxiem route and I honestly don't think that Yagoo is willing to do that. Think about that for a second. This is the same company that used to employ the ultimate GFE chuuba (Rushia) and still has geisha/courtesan type chuubas like Lamy and none of them have ever done anything remotely as shameless as Vox and Mysta.

>> No.21999445

>>21999348
You clearly missed Petra and Elira duo streams among many others then, anon

>> No.21999521

>>21997582
Audience, retard. Learn to read, holy shit.

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>>21998115
>It is often compared to a huge island or continent that is one step away from other streamers in Korea and is clustered around woowakgood, and the barriers to entry are high , so viewers who do not know the broadcasting culture of woowakgood and start watching the broadcasts do not easily adapt
>basically isegye encountered tremendous success because it drinks from woowakgood's huge fandom which had been developing for 10 years.
Guess Holo wouldn't work well in Korea. The JP idol model doesn't work with korean expectations.

>> No.21999546

>>21999328
there's no problem in only watching holo. but you know very well why it's a problem with the responses on this thread about nijien and many things involving them as its surface level information at best

>> No.21999547

>>21999445
My bad, I meant collabs with multiple members, not one on ones

>> No.21999601

>>21998033
Well, ain't that a blessing. Good for you, median chartanon.

>> No.21999603

>>21999546
yeah, but like who cares, most of them are midgets and shouldn't be discussed here at all other than for the charts at the end of the month

>> No.21999625

>>21999546
I think people are pretty informed with how NijiEN operates. Being a Vshojo-lite or Holo-lite just doesn't seem appealing.

>> No.21999679
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21999679

Elira -- 1900
Pomu -- 1600
Finana -- 1100

And yet Pomu has the least subs

>> No.21999698

>>21999546
>midget numbers
>number thread doesn't like them
really makes you think

>> No.21999763

SUUUSAAAAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQA12hqCiZU

>> No.21999802

>>21998747
>molested by two hags
This is like the plot of some hentai doujins I read.

>> No.21999821

What's wrong with Lain lately? She used to get 2k but now couldn't even go beyond 1k. Did the nipple scandal affect her too?

>> No.21999840

>>21999230
well that's a different issue entirely, she has had a rocky start for sure

>> No.21999847

>>21999625
I'm not talking about this aspect, at least not now but the responses about quality vs quantity when the streams today were posted. Which for me are more a case of.. just subjective opinion and tribalism involved.

>> No.21999857

>>21999679
>Petra is a failure
>Finana is a failure
What's up with NijiEN and female aquatic vtubers? It's the Gura curse?

>> No.21999933

>>21999821
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCRm6lqtdxs_Qo6HeL-SRQ-w
She seems normal to me? outside of that 500 ccv stream, most of her streams are over 2k as her peak

>> No.21999934

>>21999847
Was that not the whole reason you posted those stream lists? To score some tribalism points?

>> No.21999971

>>21999002
My nigga keeps getting himself some pussies! Most successful 'gay best friend' con of all time!

>> No.21999991

>>21999679
What's the median for the female NijiEN members again? Luxiem has around 8k but NijiEN as a whole only gets 4k. >>21997260

>> No.21999992

>>21999763
So does she actually say anything usefull or is it all corporate drivel?

>> No.22000019

>>21999763
give me a tldr I can't be arsed to watch this shit

>> No.22000033

>>21999857
Petra has been inclining for a while. In her last 15 streams she wasn't below 1k, a thing that you wouldn't say months ago where she was between 800 to over 1k range as her peak

>> No.22000062

>>21999847
Just ignore the newfag bronies anon, they're annoying but non-retards can still talk around them

>> No.22000065

asakoyo on 8k like normal, since i saw some people worried about yt yesterday

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>>21999857
fuck, I forgot to post the image

>> No.22000118

>>22000000

>> No.22000125

On GET news

>>22000000

>> No.22000181

>>21999698
low numbers isn't a reason to literally personally dislike a streamer

>> No.22000183

>>22000118
>>22000125
lmfao

>> No.22000225

Toko 10k get.

>> No.22000226

>>22000118
>>22000125
lmao

>> No.22000229
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22000229

>>21998115
What timing, (sort of)

>>21995226
* FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY *

- 7 April Avg / 7 April Peak Name Group
> 13,032 / 18,344 Ine (KR Isegye Idol)
> 8,762 / 14,094 (8,574 - non raid) Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 8,302 / 9,304 Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
> 6,496 10,093 maoruya (KR Isegye Idol)
> 5,969 / 8,532 Jingburger (EN Indy)
> 5,744 / 10,045 CodeMiko (KR Indy)
> 5,691 6,806 maoruya (KR Isegye Idol)
> 4,897 / 5,605 Snuffy (EN Indy)
> 4,667 / 4,875 Shoto (EN Indy)
> 4,577 / 5,560 (5,195 - non raid - 2 raids) Silvervale (EN VShojo)
> 4,254 / 4,514 Laplus Darknesss (JP Hololive)
> 3,889 / 5,174 zrush (CN Indy)
> 3,642 / 4,551 Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 3,103 / 5,536 (1,716 - non raid) ash (EN Indy)
> 2,916 / 5,830 (2,360 - non raid) Melody (EN VShojo)
> 2,631 / 3,427 Froot (EN VShojo)
> 2,205 / 2,356 Filian (EN Indy)
> 2,164 / 3,191 111roentgenium (KR Parable)
> 1,785 / 2,828 OkCode (EN Indy)
> 1,682 / 2,159 Snow Hite (KR Indy)
> 1,603 / 1,868 Chibidoki (EN Indy)
> 1,591 / 1,991 girldm (EN Indy)
> 1,424 / 3,791 (604 - non raid - 2 raids) Lumituber (EN Indy)
> 1,390 / 2,542 (1,480 - non raid) LordAethelstan (EN Indy)
> 1,300 / 1,394 Jack (KR Indy)
> 1,283 / 1,652 DyaRikku (EN Vyugen)
> 1,188 / 1,902 Subathon (today peak) OniGiri (EN Indy)
> 1,160 / 1,747 (1,023 - non raid) SquChan (EN Indy)
> 1,048 / 1,290 sea_vtuber (KR Indy)
> 1,037 / 1,445 MurderCrumpet (EN Indy)
> 1,017 / 1,282 Emikukis (EN Indy)
> 1,010 1,172 radiyu (KR Indy)
> 945 / 1,302 KendoMurft (EN Indy)
> 919 1,222 Chunyang (KR Parable)
> 862 / 2,401 (974 - non raid) Karubi Akami (JP Indy)
> 718 / 1,464 im_duck_o3o (KR Indy)

The most number of streams from both VShojo and Isegye since i started keeping track.

About Isegye, the model makes sense, that's probably why they have such a consistent audience, despite not using raids.
Then again, it might just be the East Asian stream watch tendencies.
EN i saw can be a larger market, but EastAsia, like on YT is way more consistent.

The follower to vod views ratio makes is expected since they're still growing heavily in followers, 1-4k per stream.

as seen here >>21998668
the girls really had virtually no audience before (haven't checked all of them)
From what anon wrote and what the numbers tell, It's very much like a new branch joining Hololive and getting a high floor viewership, but also expanding exponentially in the new market. Like Myth did.

Also, this double raid and subathon bs is why i prefer avg over peaks for Twitch.

>> No.22000239
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>>22000181

>> No.22000259

>>21999360
I am sorry, Yagoo, I guess we have to decline that Matsuri trade after all.

>> No.22000301

>>22000181
>personally dislike a streamer
The fuck?

>> No.22000305

>>21999999
Numbers

>> No.22000310
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22000310

With Warabeda going out, they're going to announce the disbandment of Rain Drops, aren't they?

https://twitter.com/Kanae_2434/status/1511693146261917700

>> No.22000383

>>22000310
Kanae has nothing to do with Raindrops anon. This is about him.

>> No.22000402

>>21999533
>My idol (dictator) can't be this cute
Btw, there is a reason I always say that I don't think HoloKR would be successful

>> No.22000400

>>22000065
nijijp is reclining...

>> No.22000528

>>21999991
Llike 2.5k

>> No.22000638

>>21999991
If you are counting all the females together you need to pick luxiem and noctyx together as well

>> No.22000696

>>22000229
>Chihiro actually got good numbers on Twitch
Is that her usual numbers?

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Toko got her 10k viewers.
She ran like 4 polls, viewer match rate is about 12-13 minutes per poll, except for the first 1 which was posted minute 0 and passed viewers instantly.

Current poll.

>> No.22000740

>>22000696
She hosted an Apex Custom I believe.

>> No.22000848

10k get for Toko morning stream.

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22000859

Wanted to make a thread about this but nah.

Give me a nijiEN meme that could surpass this in viewcounts

>> No.22000899

>>22000696
chihiro is mainly streaming at twitch at this point no? i heard its because of her antis on chat as twitch has better moderation and bots

>> No.22000900

>>22000696
Oh yeah, with all the other talks, more returns
>>22000229
> 8,302 / 9,304 Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
> 5,744 / 10,045 CodeMiko (KR Indy)
> 4,254 / 4,514 Laplus Darknesss (JP Hololive)

Those are Chihiro's biggest numbers ever on Twitch, almost double.
https://twitchtracker.com/chihiro2434

>> No.22000906

>>22000859
That's not even her most popular meme

>> No.22000932

>>22000696
>>22000740
>>22000229
Why do some Nijis (Kanae, Chihiro, Shizurin, etc) stream often on Twitch?
Just as an extra source of revenue from subscriptions?

>> No.22000954

>>22000906
Then, give me HoloEN's memes with the highest view count

>> No.22000969

Am I the only one concerned that NijiEN is rapidly approaching the same problem NijiJP is currently having in that the rapid debuts and flooding is causing everyone outside Vox and Mysta to be shitters? We're already seeing a similar dynamic in that Vox is the Kuzuha and Mysta is the Toya EN. What's making this particularly concerning is that they don't have the universal appeal Kuzuha has so their stuck in a limited a niche that's already part of a niche industry. Their growing but to what extent because theirs a possible limit they can reach with their current audience that they cater too compared to if they had a more general audience.

>> No.22000975

>>22000229
maoruya is not from isegye idol anon shes an indie.

>> No.22001015

Does NijiEN have dedicated anime opening/endings made for them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DigfGlWZHrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElFQVkOAAnU&t=4s

>> No.22001020

>>22000859
You should have made a thread, then we wouldn't need to see your shitty post.

>> No.22001028

>>22000969
Mysta is also going to end up self imploding if he doesn't keep his numberfaggotry in check. It's not inherently wrong to be a numberfag but when you take it too seriously it may become a problem and cause burnout.

>> No.22001054

>>22000859
Vshojo has more popular memes than NijiEN

>> No.22001064

>>21999763
I skipped through most of it but this stuck out to me.
https://youtu.be/QQA12hqCiZU?t=2691

>> No.22001065

>>22000932

Shizurin does to not spam all of her channel with FF14, Chihiro could be what >>22000899 said and Kanae.. idk. He is friends with quite a lot of twitch streamers, maybe just feels like it streaming it there sometimes

>> No.22001090

>nijiEN dedicated schizo
noice, they must be doing something right

>> No.22001102

>>22000969
Are you concerned? NijiEN have been inclining steadily for a while.

>> No.22001112

>>22000975
Ah, wth, true. I must have copied the wrong cell, have her as Indy.
(KR Indy) maoruya https://www.twitch.tv/maoruya 5,691 6,806 - 6,496 10,093

>> No.22001122

>>22000969
>inb4 Gura is the only hard hitter for HoloEN

>> No.22001155

>>22001090
Is this your first visit to /vt/ in 6 months?

>> No.22001173

Fuck I want EN 3 already, why do they need to make it 1 year. Just debut them every 8 months.

>> No.22001193

>>22000954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoTbtvF1iSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mfhG5GMsIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofY3afrMYjs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50p94kVSp8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4njaF0RGok

>> No.22001209

>Only 5k with Elden Ring

The EN gold.... Holobros...

>> No.22001213

>>22000969
There is no direction from Anycolor, anon.
Nijisanji EN is inclining and its members make more than enough money to continue streaming full-time if they want.
That's what Nijisanji is. A group of streamers. As long as the people in Nijisanji can make enough money to do this as a job then it's all good.

>> No.22001231

Memes are not a number ENtards, Holo EN is considerably bigger than Niji EN yes no shit, everyone in this thread knows it so why are you insecure enough about it to go through this timeloop again?

>> No.22001252

>>22001064
h-haha good theory....

>> No.22001269

>>22001209
No one expects same to get numbers. Same as chicken

>> No.22001281

>>22001102
the girls having 500 extra median is hardly a win
luxiem is doing good tough

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Was checking if the new tsunderia gen could be the next EN 3... But, I was wrong...

>> No.22001348

>>22001193
Why did you withhold her strongest one bro, just kill them off from the start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmpMMkXz6Y

>> No.22001356

>>22001281
Well it's hardly a fucking doom narrative is it? They've spammed out some waves and everyone has benefited to some degree.

>> No.22001358

>>22001317
EN UNITY

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22001401

>>22000899
She only had the 1 stream on Twitch this month so far.
And before that streamed daily for 1 week.
Then again, she only had 1 stream on YT so far in April too.
Her average is really high now btw, around 9k

>> No.22001424

>>22001281
are you retarded? the girls are growing but that's "not a good thing"?
that's like saying Fauna's numbers are concerning because she never hits the numbers Gura does.

>> No.22001466

>>22001102
Yes I am. Mostly because I'm seeing a re-run strategy similar to JP but the largest target audience of the most popular members are basically a niche audience within an already niche subgenre of anime culture and a large chunk of them aren't even the intended audience they were meant to really attract in the first place. Their undeniably doing well at the moment but their long term staying power and growth is something I'm unsure about because of the current state of NijiJP.

>> No.22001473

>>22001424
why is it always Fauna that gets brought up but never, like, Bae or something

>> No.22001505

>>22001473
faunaschizo is a nijinigger, imagine my shock

>> No.22001552

>>22001102
>steadily
the implication that this is some slow and steady incline to finally being able to compete with holoen is so dumb, the guys propelling nijien upwards by stumbling into an untapped market has nothing to do with any of what the girls previously built. an incline is an incline but lets not pretend this is related to anything that came prior to it

>> No.22001554

>>22001473
Yeah Fauna has actually inclined idk why they keep using her. Fucking Kronii has declined massively idk why she is never targeted besides muh depression.

>> No.22001576

>>22001424
Don't feed the schizo retards, all of Niji EN could explode in popularity overnight and they'd still twist it into being a bad thing

>> No.22001628

>>21995686
He doesn't have time. New waves are constantly arriving and a good % of his fans is going to click better with them. He can't count on his "Nijisanji family" either since they apparently hate him now.

>> No.22001681

>>22001356
well compare it like this
right now there is a 3pov game collab.
not a debuff game. almost no competition. 4 girls on the streams.
6k max ccv across the 3.
then you got the overlap of individual streams before rosemi,millie,enna,nina. 5kccv across the 4.
They now need those big collabs and the boys to incline most of the time. of course with some excpetions like yugioh streams and mgsr.
an increase is an increase but the context of the numebrs paint a picture somewhat worrying for the girls. And maybe noctyx too depending on how they perfrom this month.
>>22001424
not saying is a losoe situation but rather not much has changed outside collabs being stronger and more prominent with luxiem being involved. The strenght of the girls now is the boys not the girls themselves. which is good and bad depending on how you see it.

>> No.22001710

>>22001628
Noctyx didn't make any dent in Luxiem's viewership and there's nothing to indicate future waves would

>> No.22001796

>>22001028
Judging from his thumbnails and stream titles the guy really needs to chill

>> No.22001970

>>22001681
they're just stagnant / growing but at a snail's crawl and honestly this is more than they deserve for that fucking game lol
the boys only benefit their collabs

>> No.22002008

>>22001473
read what what I wrote and the context of the reply, retard

>> No.22002029

>>22002008
But why is it always Fauna that is mentioned

>> No.22002086

>>22001576
If NijiEN explodes overnight and gains a good audience in the general market than yeah it's a good thing. Their current explosion in a untapped niche market is a good thing but that's the thing, it's a niche in a niche market that's what's currently feeding them. The fujo Vtuber market is theirs to take but the actual size of that possible audience and possible runoff is questionable and could have a very real upper limit to it compared to regular Vtuber audiences everyone else is catering to. Add onto that them spamming gens and they could run into the problem of saturating their own niche market.

>> No.22002125

>>22001102
Well the graph here doesn't support your claim though >>21997260
NijiEN has clearly declined. On which metric were you referring to when you said they were inclining again?

>> No.22002134

>>22002029
I mentioned Fauna precisely because she has been doing well lately to show how it doesn't matter if you don't have the highest numbers, an incline is an incline
stop concerntrolling about the nijiEN girls when they are doing better than ever

>> No.22002152
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>>22001424
>Growing
Roru rumao

>> No.22002166

>>22000229
Fixes - not copying everything
> 6,496 / 10,093 maoruya (KR Indy)
> 5,691 / 6,806 maoruya (KR Indy)
>1,849 / 2,907 (1,483 - non raid) Momo (EN VSW)

If you notice any others missing, reply to the post.

>> No.22002237

>>22002125
are we looking at the same graph?
or are you just looking the Feb to Mar points?
look the entirety of the graph, including all the months shown
February is inflated by Noctyx debuts

>> No.22002277

>>22002237
But a decline is a decline?

>> No.22002329
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22002329

SO, thread is fast but, yeah, better post it now than waiting for it to slow down.
First things first: the color scheme changed due to constructive suggestions from the audience. Hololive is now the blue of their logo, Nijisanji now has the red of their "JI" in their logo.

Here is the Top 50 median of peak CCV, April 1 to April 7 (inclusive). "Ayame line" is set at 2 or more streams in the period.

Ten comments
1) Aqua lead so far is absolute and the CCV of her next stream will be her new median if it is under 86k and over 42k, or it will be 42k if it is under that number, still sufficient for an uncontested lead for
2) Kuzuha follows from a distance, with a median a little under 30k
3) On #3 comes Gura, at the heels of Kuzuha, boosted along with the whole branch by the amazing performance at her 3D on the Holofes, and also from the April 1st relay / special streams
4) Closing the top 5 comes Pekora and Subaru, and after then Okayu, Miko and Suisei, all with 20k+ median so far this month
5) 25 streamers so far have a 10k median: 12 HoloJP, 8 HoloEN, 3 NijiJP and 2 NijiEN
6) Other than Holos and Nijis the Top 50 has also: Tamaki from NoriPro, Nose from VSPO, Hal from Neo Porte and Shigure Ui representing the indies, pretty much the expected faces
7) Both Haachama seems to have inclined, both sporting a healthy 6.5k+ so far
8) Toko seems to continue her good streak, staying over 9k median for the start of April
9) Mito, on the other hand, seems to be losing some momentum, reclining back to under 9k

And the punchline
10) Kobo didn't take the foot off the gas pedal and has a 7.8k median with 6 streams

>> No.22002349

>>21998033
I was going to reply something similar. This is a highly marketable skill and most companies and even indies would pay big bucks for this level of Business Intelligence.

>> No.22002457

>>21998668
Were they popular on afreca though? That was the main KR streaming site for quite some time, so just looking at their Twitch numbers probably doesn't show the whole story.

>> No.22002469
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22002469

It's really fucking tiresome how much Luxiem mindbroke this thread, they're doing fine, maybe things will bite them in the ass later or maybe not, I don't know and I sure don't fucking care can we please discuss anything else other than those giant faggots for the 48 millionth time?

>> No.22002525

>>22002469
this is the Luxiem thread now grandpa, get with the times

>> No.22002550

>>22002469
we can't since that faggot that brings them up unprompted just to suck their dicks never fucking shuts up

>> No.22002575

>>22002277
If you want to mindlessly shitpost rather than assess the data sure.

>> No.22002608

>>22002329
>Lize has only streamed once all week and didn't make the cut.
At least she got 17,529 for that stream.
Should save her average after a relatively low March.

>> No.22002618

>>22002329
kazama doko

>> No.22002679

>>22002329
Pretty weird to see Mysta below Mumei and funny to see Vox below 5 HoloEN.

>> No.22002684

>>22002469
i think luxiem is facinanting as a case of study.
since they have effects on their genemates but also drawbacks from the kind of audience they have.
i think is fine talking about them. But calling doom over them i woudlnt go that far. i do worry that the audience that they bring to the girls might tank their metrics, not necesarily subs, and that has another branch of problems.
Excpet for mysta he is a menhera and i woul worry about him if i were management.

>> No.22002697

>>22002329
Looks nice. Could you apply that color scheme for the month of March too cause that chart is very hard to read.

>> No.22002732

>>22002152
>random streams at random days at random moments
this is the level of numberfagging in the /numbers/ thread these days, huh

>> No.22002742

>>22002469
Market speculation is fun though

>> No.22002749

>>22001064
same desu

>> No.22002773

>>22002152
the redhead just debuted the last year and now is in 3 digits hell
why does jp recline so hard?

>> No.22002813

>>22002732
>random streamas
is a 4 girls collab with 3 pov and next there is a 3 person minecraft collab.

you culd make that argument for the ones that happened at midday tough.

>> No.22002869

>>22001193
>>22001348
damn. le meme shark is la meme shark

>> No.22002871

>>22002329
>3/20 NijiENs on the chart
>10/11 HoloENs with more than 8k median
And they say, HoloEN is reclining

>> No.22002893

>>22002329
Just shows a general decline for Nijisanji. There are only two JP talents remaining above 10k.

>> No.22002973

Bae literally just accidentally said "More rape" instead of reps on stream
I'm not fucking kidding

>> No.22003016

>>22002457
https://bj.afreecatv.com/lilpaaaaaa
>107 favorites even after becoming famous
I guess not.

But the original account might have been deleted. No idea how to use this site more than searching.

>> No.22003027

>>22002329
Ouch Bae killed her median again

>> No.22003030

>>21998830
I almost miss the Kirby and Washing streams! Thanks for the reminder kind Anon!

Capcha: 44 PP

>> No.22003032

>>22002871
is the beggining of the month, lots of things cna change but overall a strong opening by holoen.

>>22002973
god

>> No.22003056

>>21999992
It's more of a photo-op kinda deal since I symphatize a bit with her now. But yeah, there's little nuggets of knowledge every 10 minutes or so

>> No.22003062

>>22002773
JP is extremely hard for newcomers to take off. The sheer amount of Livers means the entire fanbase is split amongst themselves and typically they usually stick with their favorites or group of favorites. Theirs very little box pushing also just by virtue of the sheer number of them making it not very feasible since Livers only interact with only a few of each other at a time.

>> No.22003070

>>22002973
Based Shigure Ui enjoyer

>> No.22003271

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1512208409365725188
Gartic Phone ft. Marine whose viewpoint is very likely to be bronze (maybe even silver if Aki 3D underperforms)

>> No.22003349

>>22003271
how does pink dog keep doing it

>> No.22003373

So, Ludwig confronted Susan about her statistics. Hopefully she'll do something. Did anybody else see that?
https://youtu.be/QQA12hqCiZU?t=738

>> No.22003439

>>22002329
>Kobo outranking every NijiEN except for Mysta and Vox
This kid is a dynamo. If this continues, NijiEn might actually have to worry about getting mogged by an Indog.

>> No.22003474

>>22002469
It's well established that NijiEN chuubas go here during EN timeslot to shitpost themselves to some sense of relevancy. It's better to come back on JP timeslot where they get drowned out by the true bigshots of vtubing.

>> No.22003510
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>>22002329
And here are the streamers over 1k this month, with ten more comments

1) In this bracket, other than Holos and Nijis, there are 17 Indies, 14 streamers from VSPO, 7 from NeoPorte, 5 from .Live, 4 from NoriPro, 3 from Aogiri High School and 2 from Animare, along with 1 from each of eleven other companies
2) Fuma and Gama, from UPROAR, joined Roberu and Astel on the group that made the cut so far in the month
3) Selen so far increased her median to 4343. It is still not enough to overtake Sana tho, as she has a 10k+ median so far
4) Fulgur has the lowest median of NijiEN boys so far, under 2k, trailing Petra, which inclined to over 2k and Anya, which a little over his median.
5) The lowest ranked HoloJP girl so far is Mel, with her median a little under 3k
6) Koyori has the largest number of streams in this bracket, with 16 streams. She still made the top 50 with a 8.6k median, right around Fuwa and Kronii
7) Other remarkable Indies other than Tamaki that made the list are: Virtual Obaachan and Gorilla Virtual
8) NijiID seems to have inclined across the board, with Zeta and Moona being above 40, and the lowest ranked, Anya, with a 1.8k+ median
9) WIth the exception of Yozuna Niu, all Neo Porte newly debuted streamers are over 1k median so far

And the punchline
10) Iofi is sporting an over 3k median this month so far, with 3 streams.

>> No.22003514

>>22003373
>we dont fire someone
they should

>> No.22003590
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>>22003510
And, to finish, here is the full list, without further comments.

Color scheme: is it OK now or more changes are required?

>> No.22003607

>>22002329
why do nijiniggers shill Vox so hard?
mista is more competen and less man-whorely(jus a bit) than him

>> No.22003640

>>22003607
Vox has higer ceiling for tourist events.

>> No.22003656

>>22003373
he doesn't know about playboard? or any of the usual yt numberfagging sites?

>> No.22003667

>>22003271

Same time as the scrim, huh. Apex tourists will have to carry Aqua hard to get gold

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>>22003510
>6) Koyori has the largest number of streams in this bracket, with 16 streams. She still made the top 50 with a 8.6k median, right around Fuwa and Kronii
based hard worker

>> No.22003731

>>22003656
Anon they're not fucking accurate because youtube isn't accurate

>> No.22003755
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>>22003590
Here are some interesting filters. First: Nijisanji only.

Out of the 10 top streamer channels 3 now are NijiEN

>> No.22003754

>>22003590
It's way better, anon. Thank you for your service.

>> No.22003818
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>>22003755
Indies only

>> No.22003863

>>22003510
NijiID ..zeta and moona....are you this accurate in all your work anon?

>> No.22003886
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>>22003818
All except Cover and Anycolor branches

>> No.22003891

Fulgur, Reimu, Millie, and Finana are all below Holo indogs. Lmao?

>> No.22003900

>>22002329
This feels like too short a time period since there are a couple that are obviously boosted by having a "big stream" and others that had a normal week. This is better monthly.

>> No.22003901

gartic phone with Marine today, last time she got 55k with it
I wonder if she tops it again

>> No.22003930

>>22003510
Sorry anon but you still didn't add Mochi? https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCBLqkkSpOi6a95Lf4BsTh7Q/2022-4
She's the Jap girl who streams mostly in CN for an entirely Taiwanese audience, 2k average over 5 streams and she's very much a vtuber with nothing to disqualify her

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>>22003590
The color scheme is kinda orgasmic now, ngl

>> No.22003973
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>>22003886
All except Cover and Anycolor branches, VSPO, NeoPorte and Indies

>> No.22003980

>>22003818
You have two entries for Kouka Kohaku

>> No.22004027

What the hell is going on with Nina, I thought she was one of the better performers?

>> No.22004135

>>22004027
only if she is alone and has the males onstream.
so her solo minecraft will do wonders but drop when on a collab.

>> No.22004158

>>22004027
She only does numbers when the manjisanjis are with her

>> No.22004159

>>22003667

yeah, unless aki 3d underperform a lot very hard to see aqua getting gold with such a big collab at the same time

>> No.22004171

>>22003980
You're right. From 383 foward it's leftover from the previous month, you can ignore

>>22003900
I agree that the number to be considered is the end of the month one but once a week or so it doesn't hurt to see where things are going, specially now that there are lots of minor companies to watch

>>22003930
Next time, I forgot this time

>>22003863
HoloID, of course

>> No.22004174

>>22003590
Holostars have 4 talents above 1k now.

>> No.22004233

>>22003590
>the samurai is under luna and matsuri now
what

>> No.22004254
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22004254

>>22003973
Only NijiEN and HoloEN

>> No.22004303

>>22004254
mumei really is the ace of council now
fucking depression clock

>> No.22004316

>>22004233

she is dying. lui is growing subs faster than her

>> No.22004345
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22004345

>>22004254
HoloID, NijiID and Maha5

>> No.22004347

>>22004254
>Sana 11k
Am I seeing this right?

>> No.22004366

>>22003755
So in order to be considered high tier (Top 10) in Nijisanji, you'd need at least a median of 7k currently. There are, as of this moment, 29 Holo's who would meet that requirement which is more than half the entire company including the international branches. What's more interesting to me though is you actually have a VSPO (Uruha) who would be in the top 10 of Nijisanji (8k median). At this point, I think it's safe to say that VSPO really is the 3rd strongest chuuba company in JP

>> No.22004395

>no over 10k holoen stream
its over...

>> No.22004421

>>22004347
2 streams
1 was the april fools relay, the other was a kirby
The kirby didn't drag it hard enough down. The more impressive ones are Mumei and Fauna with 4/5 streams who was able to keep the median above 10k.

>> No.22004442

>>22004347
only 2 streams and the april fools realy boosted the fuck out her.

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>full holo thumbnail in response to drop in views
there's no place for unity in this all out war

>> No.22004584

>>22003886
>>22004254
>>22004345
I have a suggestion, anon.
I think Holostars, Neoporte, Noripro should be compared together.
Hololive, Nijisanji, and Vspo in one group.
NijiEN, HoloEN, and HoloID in another group.

>> No.22004606

>>22004303
I can see why NijiEN fans wanted her. It still doesn't forgive the hissy fit they threw about it.

>> No.22004664

>>22004316
Her manager really needs to step in again. That forced Jump King arc really shot her up in everyone's radar and she needs something like that now.

>> No.22004682

>>22004584

why the fuck noripro with holostars and neoporte tho, lol

>> No.22004755

>>22003691
she really is the patron saint of /#/ huh

>> No.22004759

>>22004682
Cause they are on par with each other save for their biggest hitters.

>> No.22004788

>>22004345
>Mika, despite sucking Mysta's depressed cock, still can't get over Anya
>Kobo's median alone (7857) is still higher than if you add either all of NijIDs median (6025) or mean (7832) peaks together.
This level of mogging should be illegal.

>> No.22004819

>>22004565
What a fucking leech, thank God I blacklisted this channel from my YouTube.

>> No.22004821

>>22004565
I can't wait for him to start the niji discover series only to see sub 5k views on that vid kek

>> No.22004884

>>22004819
I hate all reaction shit so damn much. It just isn't honest.

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>>21998115
its over nijikr... holobros...

>> No.22004945

>>22004565
What drives a guy to do this kind of braindead content fucking 36 times even after seeing the clearly diminishing returns. Not to mention why the fuck are you watching it?

>> No.22004951

>>22004821
He'll only do Luxiem I bet.

>> No.22005043

>>22004917
jingburger...

>> No.22005056

>>22004884
Aren't you posting in what is pretty much a reaction thread though? The majority of you people just react to numbers in this thread while only a select few actually creates graphs and do data analysis.

>> No.22005072

>>22004345
These HoloID numbers would rival NijiEN

>> No.22005170

cant wait for their mocap 3d live
https://youtu.be/Mn5ZwEFKBc4?t=185

>> No.22005234

>>21996627
Can you post holoX and Council medians?

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>>22004316
so this the power of leeching mori

>> No.22005390

>>22005170
Is this MMD or them dancing? Looks too stiff to me.

>> No.22005469

>>22004254
>Mysta
Get fucked Holofags.
NijiGold
>NijiGold
NijiGold
>NijiGold

>> No.22005534

>>22005469
Yeah like when he beat Gura yesterday with fucking Henry Stickman? Oh wait, he didn't. He didn't even beat Fauna.

>> No.22005601

>>22005072
Fun fact(s)
>Moona outranks every NijiEN girl currently
>Zeta outranks all of NijiEN except for Sonny, Luca, Vox and Mysta
>Kobo outranks every NijiEN except for Mysta and Vox
>Anya (ANYA?!) actually outranks 4 NijiEN's (Fulgur, Finana, Millie, Reimu)
Right now, HoloID is more than just competitive against NijiEN

>> No.22005612

>>22004254
Fungus is behind Anya rumao

>> No.22005619

>>22003373
>Susan: that's easy to fix
Fire your pajeet interns first bitch

>> No.22005633

>>22005390
mmd/vrchat

>> No.22005668

>>22005534

https://youtu.be/_vLluEtKcxY

don't worry, today there will be no slip

>> No.22005694

table anon, is there a cover only

>> No.22005695

>>21986769
APRIL 2022 SILVER
>1) 28,711: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX
>2) 40,046: Flare (Hololive) Bday Totusmachi
>3) 41,660: Marine (Hololive) Chat
>4) 30,517: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) FIFA 22
>5) 40,720: Gura (Hololive) Unarchived Karaoke
>6) 47,573: Subaru (Hololive) Minecraft
>7) 31,050: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) APEX

Updates weekly for now. I have bronze as well.

>> No.22005697

>>22005534
Eh? How the fuck?
Didn't Mysta stream on JP's Primetime and Hololive didn't have anything on yesterday?

>> No.22005729

>>22005668

good thumbnail

>> No.22005747

>>22005697

>>21995301

>> No.22005765

>>22005697
It's not a good game for his CN audience.

>> No.22005775
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22005775

Reminder. Not that it should be needed what with it all being inane shit from one samefagger but you know.
>>22005633
Anon that doesn't answer my question of if it was them dancing during the scene at the timestamp. Are they good dancers? I know Korean girls tend to be decent dancers, a decent amount of my diminutive Korean friends can dance pretty well.

>> No.22005785

>>22005668
man he really neds to get better at thumbnails
looks like he did this shit in a minute on paint.

>> No.22005846

>>22005697
henry stickman is a game that eops likes
mysta viewers are not eops, he barelys cratched the 10k and just for some seconds

>> No.22005902

>>22001213
This. The vtubers do whatever the fuck they want. This thread obsession with management direction is bizarre when most of the time the managers just leave them to do whatever they want as long as they aren't committing a crime on stream. It's why the questions about streaming time and many other aspects in here makes no sense.
>>22000969
If you are actually concerned you would know that the numbers for all of them are very good for streamers. Now even Reimu is above 1k all the time. Then they have their own avenues of revenue for voice packs, merch, superchat and other things. I think this thread needs to make a difference between its competitive tribalist aspect and recognize that the numbers for NijiEN are more than enough for them to work as a full time streamer.

>> No.22005991

>>22005668
What the actual fuck. Do they really? Is this real? This is the kind of thumbnail + title is what I expect from autistic children in the early 2010s not from a fuggin Niji VTuber, waddafug.

>> No.22005993

>>22005902
you're missing the point of the thread

>> No.22006041

>>22005902
This is not the care bears thread.

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>>22005785

3 minutes actually

>> No.22006124

>>22006096
such effort as alwasy

>> No.22006242

( ^)o(^ ) gold?

>> No.22006243

>>22006124
More effort than Gura who drops scheduled streams because she'd rather ride on her BF's cock than do her job

>> No.22006271

>>22005775
>diminutive Korean friends
How small are we talking?

>> No.22006321

>>22006242

nijigold. nijikiller won't be enough for today

>> No.22006343

>>22001628
If anything it's him who "hates" it considering he never knows what the others are doing and dont check their calendars and discord.
>>22003062
Newcomes took off in 2019, 2020 and 2021 with a lot of vtubers so this is false.
>>22003510
well, I have been saying here for a while that Petra is inclining but without much discussion about it. this is a good thing for me.

>> No.22006368

>>22006271
One of them is 148 cm, almost legally a dwarf and flat as a board. Why?

>> No.22006449

>>22005993
I know the point of the thread. It's why I said that we need to separate it in subjects like that sometimes.

>> No.22006502

>>22006243
Are you a flip?

>> No.22006574

>>22006242
yea, niji gets BTFO'ed so many times, but they still stay here. Talk about having no dignity. Just like the Zhangs. Oh wait, they are Zhangs.

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>>22006368
>148cm
>flat as a board
C-care to introduce them to us, anon?

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>>22006368

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>>22006368

>> No.22006812

>>22004254
>Kiara
If you take off HoloTalk and the collabs she organises, she looks like this.
HER MEDIAN IS LITERALLY HALF OF MYTH'S WHAT THE FUCK

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>>22006368

>> No.22006924

>>22006812
If you remove all of Gura's streams except DMC4 and Watch-alongs, Gura is actually the weakest EN talent
HER MEDIAN IS WORSE THAT NIJI FEMALES

>> No.22006953

>>22006924
Her DMC4 and watch-alongs get more views than Niji females though.

>> No.22006959

>>22006924
anon....

>> No.22007004

Who got it? >>22000000

>> No.22007083

>>22007004
He's a cuck because I'm Mumei's boyfriend.

>> No.22007129

>>22007083
I don't remember making this post

>> No.22007143

If Hololive had a "good" european streamer (you may like the chicken or not but she's objectively a huge debuff) streaming in EU prime time, would she get good numbers or are EU hours completely dead hours?

>> No.22007162

>>22006924
I mentioned that to illustrate how Kiara relies on box content to stay relevant. You illustrated how the most debuff content Gura can do is still far above every Niji girl. Good point

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>>22006368

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>>22006602
>>22006670
>>22006706
>>22006860
>>22007232
Back off anons, she's my touchy feely 42 kg korean, not yours. Now why are you fags posting about her instead of numbers.

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