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You know that Nijis consistently pump out creative content, right. There's a lot nijis like Chihiro that just do the same shit every day but there's also ones like Mito or Noraneko or Pomu who try their best to push new stream ideas and resent the idea of stagnancy.

Hololive just doesn't have anyone like that. At best they have Fubuki but she hasn't done anything creative in almost a year due to burn out.
I wish people would stop pretending Hololive's stagnancy is representative of the entire vtubing scene. Indies and 2view corpos are grinding it out everyday trying to push innovative content that gets them new viewers while Holos play Minecraft and make tier lists. Nijis plan out elaborate sketch comedy routines like Rosemi's while Holos have a month long Elden Ring and Vampire Survivors marathon.

If you want creative content just stop watching Hololive. This isn't even an insult on Hololive it's just an objective truth of any media that the most popular will be the most stagnant as they're afraid of losing market influence if they branch out and potentially offend someone. When I want to see something cool I'll watch Nijisanji or Vshojo or indies. When I just want to eat instant ramen while watching a comfy stream I'll put on Laplus playing the new Kirby game, 0 creativity involved but it's easy to digest and still enjoyable when nothing else is on.

That's basically Hololive's current role in the industry, just being something you can always go back to because they'll always be doing the same thing when you get bored of everyone else or just want something relaxing. Looking to them for creativity is like complaining that late night TV hosts are boring and derivative when that's the entire fucking point.

>> No.21987341,1 [INTERNAL] 

Claims Niji is making creative streams.

Doesn't mention a single example.

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>>21983285

>> No.21983426

>>21981824
You forgot the last part, redo it

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>>21983285

>> No.21983516

Are Selen emote post now meta?

>> No.21983735

>>21983285
https://youtu.be/bhkfm1dX7BM

>> No.21983782

>doesn't watch polka

>> No.21983930

mucho texto, didn't reado

>> No.21984153

>>21983285
>Hololive just doesn't have anyone like that.
The most creative vtuber on the planet is Amelia Watson. Until anyone else can make new and creative content like hers there's really no competition out there.

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>>21983285
Didn't read, Nijisanji sucks.

>> No.21984181

>>21983285
keep doing your boring nijien vs holoen garbage, but stop bringing up jp because you watched a clip once ENigger

>> No.21984424

mucho texto + selen pic
not reading

>> No.21984427

I guess your last thread didn't work out, had to make a new one huh?
Keep trying champ, I'm sure you'll get those (You)'s!

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>>21983285
>p-prease watch nijis and indies, h-hololive SUCK!!
Makes me filtered these retard even more

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>>21983285
tldr? noone wants to read your thesis retard

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I'm not reading all that

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Im so glad that niji exists to keep retardedniggers out of hololive

>> No.21985020

>>21984788
imagine being this naive

>> No.21985091

>>21983930
>>21984170
>>21984424
>>21984705
>>21984745
>Holobronies literally too stupid to read three short paragraphs

>> No.21985408

>>21985091
>literally
*merely pretending

>> No.21985409

>>21984153
She doesn't do anything entertaining, creative or new. Chibi 3d model isn't new. Put her leg on the table isn't new, Nene did it for months. I can go on and on.
The only way you could think "she's the most creative vtuber on earth" is if you are a normie who watch nothing but ENtuber clip.

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>>21984705
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE USE ME AS YOUR GAMING CHAIR, MY FACE CAN LEVEL UP YOUR AIM

>> No.21985511

>>21985409
You're just mad that she invented things that nobody else has ever done before and then copied her.

>> No.21985521

>>21985453
Nigga what

>> No.21985563

>>21985453
only good post in this thread

>> No.21985943

>>21985511
>Nobody has ever done before.
How new. She copy and reinvent things that your limited mind never seen before. Maybe you should stop worship your talentless whore for a minute.

>> No.21986475 [SPOILER] 

>>21983285
Already stopped watching Holoshit a little before Obysdia made their debuts. Started mainly with Pomu in the meantime but eventually Selen became my oshi. It's really a breath of fresh air when everyone just does their own thing and converge together naturally in collabs. Feel like there was none of this in Holoshit.

I feel like Nijisanji has been growing faster than Holoshit this year due to the bullshit reasoning for Rushia's firing and they haven't had any real drama in ages whereas the latter is a ticking time bomb, so we could see a return to being top in later 2022 if perhaps, Holoshit continues to stay stagnant and have more inevitable drama because the fans are as inceloid as it gets.

But in turn, I think VTubing as a culture is on the decline, although Nijisanji will remain at a constant. The coof is gone and so will most of the Holotourists from the 2020 boom. That will in turn mean less people watching, but thankfully Nijisanji knows what its viewers want in terms of the creativity and innovation department and that's what will keep them at that constant.

Godspeed Selenchad, you know way more about how everything is than the rest of the board so I just wanted to say good thread and keep enjoying Selen forever.

>> No.21986534

>>21984153
And even then she only streams like once or twice a week when every Niji practically streams every day.

>> No.21986599

>>21984153
Ame is literally the most boring VTubing experience in its entirety that isn't Japanese. And she's not creative at all. If you want a creative VTuber you watch Mito, Pomu, or Miori or Amiya from Tsunderia.

>> No.21986626

>You know that Nijis consistently pump out creative content, right
No, because I don't care about MANjiCHINKji ;-)

>> No.21986673

>>21986626
>men bad
>china bad
Holy Reddit Batman

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>>21985091
If you can't make a simple and precise point to your shitpost. Then your post is outright shitty to begin with.

>> No.21986808

do they always type these walls of text?

>> No.21986852

>>21986747
His point is that Nijisanji actually feels like it's done way more to innovate for the medium and Holoshit relies solely on FOTM crap and neutered content. Just watch Niji 3D lives and compare them to Holo's ones and you'll find the former way more entertaining. Not rocket science if you have standards. Brand loyalism is what Holobronies know best and they're willing to watch a giant turd if they could if Holoshit's label was on it.

>> No.21986900

>>21986808
Do Holobronies always come off as illiterate retards?

>> No.21986965

>>21986900
Do Nijibronies always come off as long ass reddit posters?

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holy shit man
apex, overwatch, asscreed, ttt colab. wow wow wowowowowow where do they get these crazy out there ideas?!?!?!?!?!?

>> No.21987053

>>21986965
Do Holobronies ever not project their signification of what they represent to this board and the Virtual YouTuber community as a whole?

>> No.21987094

>>21986985
You say that but Ina hasn't not played Lelden Reddit since it has come out kek

>> No.21987117

>>21987053
You either don't know the meaning of project or signification. I hope this was ironic.

>> No.21987179

>>21987117
Because all you do is project what you are on other Virtual YouTuber fans and you don't know what you signify to the rest of us. Why not educate yourself before punching up at the alpha dogs?

>> No.21987190

>>21987094
>posts selen image and brags about creative content
>selens content is shown to be not especially creative
>BUT WHAT ABOUT INAAAAAAAA

>> No.21987255

>>21986673
Yes. Plus, you're Chinese.

>> No.21987270

>>21987190
You don't watch Selen. Go deeper into her archives. Ina doesn't do shit outside Lelden Reddit and insanely boring zatsu. I watch both regularly.

>> No.21987293

>>21987270
You hate ina's content but watch her regularly?

>> No.21987302

>innovative content
Love that nijiniggers will claim this when they literally just repeat what twitch streamers have already done for years.

>> No.21987316

>>21987255
And you're an Amerimutt Holobrony, the embodiment of cringe that needs to be wiped off this website by now.

>> No.21987341

>>21983285
who the hell is pomu

>> No.21987366

>>21987316
>admits he's Chinese
AHAHAHAHA
Screencapped btw.

>> No.21987378

>>21987179
>alpha dogs
LMFAO

>> No.21987401

>>21987302
Nigger fucking please, Twitch streamers always go an extra mile to play indie games at decent numbers. And watch their streams, sorry Holoshit has zero permissions that they can't watch comfy MGSV streams.

>> No.21987451

>>21987366
Yes, I'm based. /pol/ is pro-China and anti-Great Satan. Sorry you live in 2016, election tourist.
>>21987378
I've been watching Virtual YouTubers before you made your first post here, tourist.

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>>21987451
>/pol/nigger

>> No.21987565

>>21987302
The irony of this is that OP's post was made because a Holo was doing a twitch tier stream

>> No.21987576

>>21987451
You type like a giga fucking redditor neckbeards tho, i can't take it seriously sorry.

>> No.21987598

>>21987401
>Nijiniggers saying this when they caused the permissions holocaust in the first place
Have you tried not chimping out like a monkey for 5 seconds?

>> No.21987628

Holoshit had an actually creative liver in Artia. Then they fired her because MUH CHINA BAD. Nijibros, I hope you were around for her. Selen is more or less the closest thing to her thankfully.

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>>21987451
>a-a-actually eating bat soup is b-based

>> No.21987672

>>21987628
>Chink actually confirmed
Don't you have some bugs to be eating Zhang?

>> No.21987683

>>21987598
You mean it didn't start with Mio and Capcom you fucking newfag? Why do you think she was suspended for 10 weeks? Christ almighty, do your reps before writing revisionist history.

>> No.21987746

>hates hololive
>outs himself as a poltard
>poltards are usually extremely contrarian
hmm...

>> No.21987756

>>21987672
I'm Serbian though.

>> No.21987759

>>21983285
Just for context the original post was made because an anon implied that just because the one company that he watches was losing their creativity that suddenly meant all of vtubing was becoming stale. The guy even says he watches La+ and Vshoujo so it came from a unityfag that actually watches different vtubers. But because this is OP's second bait thread with a Selen image attached we'll ignore what it actually says in favor of being schizo tribalfags.

>> No.21987789

>Nijisanji good, holoshit bad, I'm from china, /pol/ and leddit, now witness my stupid fucking opinions!
Stop replying to this obvious bait retards.

>> No.21987831

>>21987759
Of course. Don't expect Holobronies to have reading comprehension though. Many of us learned to stop watching it almost a year ago when it clearly became objectively stale after Coco graduated and Obsydia changed the game transformationally across corporate Virtual YouTubing as it is.

>> No.21987912

>>21987789
When I saw Holobronies actually defending their girls
>Not streaming
>Playing the same game endlessly
>Doing twitch style le funny tier list streams
I knew this place was too far gone.

>> No.21988019

>>21983285
There is unironically no way anyone can defend Holoshit anymore. It's just watching the same girls play the exact same games and having the worst fucking Reddit tier ideas like meme tier lists that only Coco could make not cringe everything is just a cookie cutter of oneself. It's peak soulless shit that I've seen more soul at Amazon or Apple.

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>>21986852
I'm still not reading all that

>> No.21988080

>>21988058
Because you're a high school dropout.

>> No.21988089

>>21987759
If he was genuine he wouldn't use a purple dragon image and start samefagging on cooldown

>> No.21988142

>>21988019
Chances are your oshi wishes she could be in Hololive, if she likes it then why don't you?

>> No.21988219

>>21987759
the original comment was made by a seething schizo that often camps in /#/ and is constantly shitting on hololive and talking about rimjobs, you find him often in holo anti threads aswell preaching his delusions. this selen poster here is just taking all of his posts and turning them into threads

>> No.21988239

>>21988142
Why would she need to when she gets a larger paycheck from Anykara and not constrained by both Kikever and Jewsan anyways?

>> No.21988284

>>21988219
The original comment was made by someone who has been watching VTubers since Ai and Kaguya Luna. His oshi is somehow now Selen like a lot of us here. Maybe if you weren't expelled from /vyt/, /jp/, and soon to be /vt/ you wouldn't be ridiculed here like you are by actual VTuber fans!

>> No.21988315

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycxV-3La60g

>> No.21988324

>>21988219
Not everything is anti Holo, take your meds

>> No.21988342

>>21988219
Are you sure it's not that we, the silent majority have traditionally found ways to out you Holobronies as uninformed tourists in the broader realm of VTubing? And OP is objectively correct?

>> No.21988372

OP watches LaCunny so he's based

>> No.21988379

>>21988219
It's so much cope with you Holobronies every fucking time.

Forget your own containment board, you need a Lee Goldson type of autist to knock you off 4chan entirely. You're inherently Reddit and need to go.

>> No.21988387

>>21988315
Pretty sure i watch pomu doing pokemon tierlist too like months ago

>> No.21988439

>>21988387
What Pokemon tier list? Do you even watch her or are you sure that wasn't an indie?

>> No.21988568

>>21988387
Kek, it's real and 5 hours long. Nijinigs in shambles.

>> No.21988573

>>21983285
Didn't read past the first sentence. But I agree that I pump out my content right into selen's anus

>> No.21988608

>>21988568
Because it isn't a real stream and just Holobrony headcanon to discredit their pathetic boring whores.

>> No.21988631

>>21988608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeCK8I_GQ4U

>> No.21988675

>>21988631
OH NO NO NO MY RRATS ARE FALLING APART

>> No.21988718

>>21988631
Even then it's objectively more entertaining then ranking fucking vegetables as if that isn't late stage creativity enough.

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Meanwhile at Nijisanji, this is happening right now

I think Nijisanji is pretty creative you guys

>> No.21988735

>>21988608
>falseflagging chink proves he doesn't actually watch streams
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.21988741

>>21988718
Yeah still a tierlist tho

>> No.21988796

>>21988731
Real shit those 3D models are sleek
PS: I FUCKING LOVE YOU MILLIE, I WANNA PLANT MY SERB BVLL SEED INTO YOUR FLIP PUSSY

>> No.21988803

>>21988718
>It's a rrat! It's all holobrony lies!
>Proof
>B-b-but it's fine when nijis do it!
cope.

>> No.21988838

>>21988741
Would people want you to talk about Pokemon or fucking vegetables? Answer me honestly.

>> No.21988884

>>21988838
People who want to talk about pokemon are fucking vegetables.

>> No.21988894

tl;dr
Still won't watch your shit

>> No.21988898

>>21988803
Because it's not late stage shit like VEGGIE TIER LIST because that shit is as funny as anything put on Twitter.

>> No.21988913

>>21961078
>>21960275

>>21983285
>>21956738

>> No.21988920

>>21988838
Considering how many people were seething and talking about fruits/vegetables in threads, I would say the latter.

>> No.21988927

>>21988838
I'd watch both anon, why are you fuming so bad that people like hololive?

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>>21983285
>>21986475
>>21987179
>>21988019
>>21988342
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>> No.21988949

>>21988913
The hero /vt/ needs and deserves.

Selenchad stays winning. Holofags stay malding.

>> No.21988954

>>21988838
Anon people were seething after Fauna's, and actually talking about Fauna's, so clearly it's the fucking vegetables.

>> No.21988986

rent-free

>> No.21988989

>>21988927
Why can't you find other, more fulfilling and genuinely more creative content than Holoshit? Why consoom when there's more purpose to watching VTubers than just consooming product?

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>>21988913
Really makes one ponder

>> No.21989002

>>21988898
Right. Pokemon edibility is so much more funny and quirky right fellow redditor?

>> No.21989027

>>21983285
>You know that Nijis consistently pump out creative content
>minecraft
>lets play random game #69
>hurr durr semen semen cum
100% of nijien content right now

>> No.21989035

>>21989002
They had so much fun in that stream. This is the kind of shit they talk about in discord all the time, so it was fun to see it in a stream.

>> No.21989047

nigga no amount of creativity will save your dumbass nijisanjeets from being 3views lmao

>> No.21989049

>>21988989
Jerma is more creative than any milquetoast vtuber why aren't you watching him instead?

>> No.21989055

>41 IPs
>109 posts
Jesus, you fags should all kill yourselves.

>> No.21989072

this entire thread is just me replying to myself

>> No.21989074

>>21989027
And even then that's better than Lelden Reddit or >Japanese humor stream #89

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>> No.21989164

>>21989078
Now post the Holoshit ones without viewbots

>> No.21989203

>>21989078
fuck off numbernigger noone cares

>> No.21989225

>>21989164
https://streamable.com/0uqbzg

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>>21989164
Last person to be talking about viewbots

>> No.21989246

>>21989027
>cooking streams
>drawing streams
>irl jigsaw puzzle streams
You don't even look at their schedules, let alone read threads

>> No.21989269

>>21989078
LMAO that fat faggot really did lose all his following after everyone saw his dumbass wtf

>> No.21989288

>>21989246
>cooking streams
Something they've done so often it's on par with their regular content
>drawing streams
How the fuck is this special? Half of fucking holo does them
>irl jigsaw puzzle streams
See the first part

When a good portion of your streams are handcams it stops being special btw

>> No.21989298

>>21983373
fpbp

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This is so cute

>> No.21989316

Holoshit by default is inherently uncreative since Mito birthed the current streaming format all of the Holowhores use. Kneel to the OG.

>> No.21989320

>>21989269
No, he never had viewers outside of collabs to begin with. The only gen that does well is Luxiem and that's 3/5

>> No.21989324

Equivalent of homobegging

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>>21983285
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE AN IMPRESSIVE READING SPEED, I DID NOT READ A SINGLE WORD OF THAT!

>> No.21989356

>>21989324
Not when we came here first, Holofag

>> No.21989378

Imagine living rent-free

>> No.21989381

>>21989288
These are three types of creative streams they've done this past week, which you left off your list in favor of "block game, random game, hurdur cum cum"

>> No.21989410

>>21989320
Anon, if you have more than 1000 viewer, you're making bank. Rosemi makes like $250,000 a year, and she has 1200 viewers. I think numberfags have lost all sense of proportion. At the smaller companies, a stream with 500 viewers is huge.

>> No.21989441

You're not even NijiEN, seething 2 view

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Nijisis, you need to stop thinking about Holobronies.. it's tearing you apart
go back to your tribe, go back to the dox site where you belong.

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>>21989164
Bro, we're the ones getting viewbotted not the bronies, stop embarrasing us.

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>>21989326
OINK OINK HELLO I'M SELEN COME WATCH ME PLAY APEX HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA *SQUEALS*

>> No.21989592

>>21989527
This is seriously odd though. I think its either they did bot or free VPNs expiring all at the same time.

>> No.21989601

Hololive and Niji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Ksoizbl2s

>> No.21989603

>>21986852
His point is a bunch of made up bullshit thst never happened? Ogey.

>> No.21989801

>>21989410
My favorite cope

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>>21989601

>> No.21989866

Creativity is overrated and naturally nijiniggers put a shit ton of faith into it. What matters is the personality, that's why Holos can make boring streams exciting.

>> No.21989888

My favorite Niji creation is the off collab sex orgies. No fucking way any other companys does high IQ shit like that

>> No.21989945

Fight fight fight

>> No.21989952

>>21989801
Numberfag is cringe and cancer. I'm watching someone with 100 viewer right now, it doesn't matter to me. Do you seriously only watch hololive because you want to watch high numbers?

>> No.21989991

>>21989952
Just watch your 2 view and stop barking at Hololive for once.

>> No.21990008

>>21989952
I don't look at the viewcount while watching streams, so it's a (You) problem, since (You) seem obsessed with said viewcounts

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>>21989078
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

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>>21990038
>fat neckbeard gets btfo'd
I love my indo wife so much bros...

>> No.21990116

>>21989991
Hololive doesn't have any streams right now anon. I have something to watch, and you don't. That's why you're mad.

>> No.21990139

>>21989410
i dont understand why someone would want an oshi that rich. i want my oshi to be in poverty so theyre relatable and understanding of the common man's struggle.

>> No.21990165

>>21986852
innovations such as hotel threesome asmr stream?

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>>21990116
check before you start bullshitting
>inb4 Japanese doesn't count

>> No.21990174

>>21990038
>>21990092
I can't wait for the grudgeposts.

>> No.21990215
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>>21983285
>>21986475
>>21986852
This is the creative content you anons are saying??? NO THANKS!

>> No.21990226

>>21990169
Japanese doesn't count. Because you don't speak japanese, and neither do I.
Unless you're one of those people that is so corporate loyal to hololive that you watch japanese streams rather than watching english streams at a different company.

>> No.21990302

>>21990215
I like this moment, this was fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hr5Q5clwkw&t=5430

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>>21990226
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>> No.21990311

>>21990226
自殺をする

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Seriously bros why do they hire morbidly obese people, chinks, flips, asian whores, male prostitutes and transexuals? Is it part of their requirement? Is Greasysanji that desparate?

>> No.21990376

>>21990328
Anon.....you think hololive doesn't hire transsexuals? Flips? Whores?
Fuck off retard.

>> No.21990392

>>21983285
Totally true! I enjoyed NijiENs April Fool's content, which is nonexistent hahaha
HoloEN did VR, super kino - rejects copied
HoloEN did off-collab, super kino - rejects copied
This is your ''innovative'' ''creative'' contents, nijibros??? hahaha

>> No.21990452

>>21990226
anon, ive been watching hololive before gen 5 was even a thing

>> No.21990455

>>21990376
>w-what about y-your c-chuubas
yeah keep huffing that copium nijinigger

>> No.21990461

>>21990302
wow! super innovative! like every vtuber companies' yearly MK tournament kek

>> No.21990473

>>21983285
Ew, Zhang.

>> No.21990478

>>21990452
I don't get into doxx, which apparently YOU do.
But I just know what you're saying is total bullshit.

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>>21990461
I think it was Elira's idea

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>>21990452
Nijilivers:
>are whores offstream
>are also whores while they're streaming

>> No.21990557

>>21985453
HAHAHAHAHA no way fag HAHAHAHA

>> No.21990627

>>21990392
not only did they copy, but they would spam the shit out of that content. Can't even count now how many VR shit and offcollab they did after copying Holos

>> No.21990641

I'll never understand the idea of shitting on the very people you're trying to shill your product to.

>> No.21990644

>>21990226
No, I'm watching twitch if the girls are not online. Idk what this "creativity" shit is, but it just look like your everyday twitch stream.

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>>21990627
Playing VRchat is not copying anon.

But this IS copying

>> No.21990768

>>21990538
This is innovative/creative to you, anon? the state kek

>> No.21990792

>>21990768
They're always doing creative stuff like that.
Like they just thought of that in the moment. Nobody else would think to do that.

>> No.21990859

>>21990792
>Nobody else would think to do that
Yeah because it's boring as fuck

>> No.21990867

>>21988731
>>21989315
its cute but how is this supposed to be creative?

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Hololive schedule:
Elden ring, Minecraft, Elden ring

Nijisanji schedule, pic related

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>bro im just baiting brooo
don't care, you're still a SEApajeet that does nothing but shit up the board, you're gonna kill yourself and I'm gonna laugh

>> No.21990961

>>21990641
Funny that you think anyone in this thread watches streams or tries to shill anything in good faith.

>> No.21990963 [DELETED] 

>>21990900
I think the word for this is variety not creativity.

>> No.21990974

i already lost track of the initial argument.

>> No.21991003

>>21990963
They stream lots of variety because they're creative people. They're always doing something unique every week.

>> No.21991005

>>21990961
Well im watching Zentreya right now, and this niji shills seems so bitter that people watch hololive

>> No.21991035

>>21990750
Totally not copying, anonchama. They just made sure not to use a Walfie model and instead use chibi models kek. So this ''cleaning my room'' is the innovative shit you guys are talking about???

>> No.21991039

>>21990963
I don't think SEAchinks know the definition of the word creativity

>> No.21991062

>>21990961
i mean that anon >>21988731
seems to have tried his best. it just doesn't quite fit the theme of this shitpost thread

>> No.21991086 [DELETED] 

>>21983373
/thread
sage

>> No.21991088

>>21991003
I don't think playing variety of games is creative at all, it's just playing games.

>> No.21991095

>>21990750
Gura already made a room clean up stream before these two, nigger.

>> No.21991099

>>21990974
From tye original thread it was that just because Hololive doesn't feel that creative that doesn't necessarily mean all vtubers aren't creative, nor does that mean Hololive has to be creative since they're just filling another niche. In this thread we're just screaming and posting schedules and numbers.

>> No.21991127

you just know these niggas be doin VR twister next week cause they creatuve and shit

>> No.21991128

>>21990900
>minecraft
nijibro, you need to check that out who's shilling on minecraft for a month now.
>elden ring
not our fault when your chuubas cannot afford to turn off their superchats, or the rrat that nijis got their permission revoked might be true

>> No.21991129

Nijishills in this thread are so fucking insecure just accept that your whores are boring chuubas who get 3k ccv in their "creative" streams kek

>> No.21991147

>>21991099
if people cared about creativity they wouldn't be watching vtubers to begin with, no?

>> No.21991156

>>21990963
Nijiniggers are not creative, so why would they know what creativity is?

>> No.21991170

>>21991005
If only Zentreya wasn't in vshojo, the only fun creative one out of the whole group

>> No.21991172

>>21990750
I like how the schedule on the right is so barren.
Elira has 7 streams. Plus all the times she is showing up on other people's channels which aren't marked on the schedule. It's easy to see who works harder

>> No.21991194

All out wars

>> No.21991210

>>21991147
Not necessarily, vtubers are just content creators at the end of the day. It takes a few extra steps but every once in a while someone will manage to do something neat.

>> No.21991220

>>21990963
Nijiniggers in this board just copy arguments and add "Hololive" to it, they don't understand the word.

>> No.21991234

>>21991005
>this niji shills seems so bitter that people watch hololive
As that guy is fond of saying, Success breeds jealousy

>> No.21991282

>>21990750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLcGkbFqvfU&t=0s
>Feb 2021
You might've forgotten her vacuum and energy cans during that stream. The only difference is Gura's not so ''''''innovative and creative'''''' as Elira is to make a whole stream just about it kek

>> No.21991316

>>21991234
I keep seeing this over and over.
Literally the only thing holofags ever say is "more people watch hololive". I think the only reason people ever watch hololive is because other people are watching it. It's because of numberfagging basically.

The fact is that other companies are often doing some really creative things and holofags are missing out

>> No.21991348

I guess 21 original songs in 3 months is not creative deadbeatbros...

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>>21991172
Nijinigger gets btfo'd about his dumb "creativity" argument that he resorts to the "works harder" angle. Pathetic

>> No.21991366

>>21991316
>I keep seeing this over and over.
as you should, because 90% of your post is just complaining that people watch hololive and not your chuubas

>> No.21991374

>>21991282
Wow anon, they did a minecraft collab. That's very creative.

>> No.21991377

>>21991316
Nijisanji was way ahead of Hololive in 2019 and 2020, how do you explain that?

>> No.21991394

>>21991316
>really creative things
They aren't, if I want creative i'll just watch Jerma

>> No.21991416

>>21991374
you need your reading comprehension reps, anonchama

>> No.21991430

>>21991361
You don't watch other companies so you don't know.

Yes Nijisanji is actually much more creative. Especially Elira, Pomu, Rosemi, Petra, and Millie. They're always doing very creative things all the time.

>> No.21991455

>>21990750
It's called end of the year cleaning before the new year anon, it's a very Asian tradition.

>> No.21991494

Nijisanji more like Clique-sanji, where solo streams become collabs when someone joins in VC, and then ignore chat for the rest of the stream, as if they didn't respect their audience in the first place

>> No.21991528

>>21991455
Wow anon, 2 days after Elira posted her schedule with her room cleaning stream, Ina posts a schedule that also has a room cleaning stream! Wow that's such a coincidence

After Ina changed the way that hololive interacts with each other to include lots of offcollabs and chat interactions, in order to copy what Nijisanji was doing.

>> No.21991542

>>21991430
You keep shilling them but people just don't see it the way you do, why is that? Myth just bodies all of those.

>> No.21991545

>>21991430
example of this so called "creativity" anonchama before i call you a faggot again

>> No.21991549

>>21991394
Holobronies don't go down this road, don't resort to saying vtubers don't actually need to be creative.

>> No.21991611

>>21991545
>>21959762
>>21961098

>> No.21991640

I have to wonder what nijiniggers are thinking when they just go "the chuubas you like are shit, watch my chuubas" and expect to sway anyone.

>> No.21991684

>>21991549
NijiEN is not creative compared to most twitch streamers, simple as, the fact that you think any vtuber can come even close to anything anyone twitch has done is laughable. Until they have actual creative streams you nijiniggers are just screaming in the wind.

>> No.21991692

>>21991611
>shower stream
>creative
fucking dumbass

>> No.21991706

>>21991494
>where solo streams become collabs when someone joins in VC
I thought this was all rrat, but I tried to tune in on Petra's minecraft stream, Millie was on the title so I expected both, and as I clicked a fag blondie showed up. Nice

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>>21991430
So this is the power of Niji creatividad...

>> No.21991754

Embarrassing. I'm actually feeling the second hand embarrassment.

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Only two things are infinite, the universe and nijinigger insecurity, and I'm not sure about the former

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You know that Nijis consistently pump out creative content, right. There's a lot nijis like Chihiro that just do the same shit every day but there's also ones like Mito or Noraneko or Pomu who try their best to push new stream ideas and resent the idea of stagnancy.

Hololive just doesn't have anyone like that. At best they have Fubuki but she hasn't done anything creative in almost a year due to burn out.
I wish people would stop pretending Hololive's stagnancy is representative of the entire vtubing scene. Indies and 2view corpos are grinding it out everyday trying to push innovative content that gets them new viewers while Holos play Minecraft and make tier lists. Nijis plan out elaborate sketch comedy routines like Rosemi's while Holos have a month long Elden Ring and Vampire Survivors marathon.

If you want creative content just stop watching Hololive. This isn't even an insult on Hololive it's just an objective truth of any media that the most popular will be the most stagnant as they're afraid of losing market influence if they branch out and potentially offend someone. When I want to see something cool I'll watch Nijisanji or Vshojo or indies. When I just want to eat instant ramen while watching a comfy stream I'll put on Laplus playing the new Kirby game, 0 creativity involved but it's easy to digest and still enjoyable when nothing else is on.

That's basically Hololive's current role in the industry, just being something you can always go back to because they'll always be doing the same thing when you get bored of everyone else or just want something relaxing. Looking to them for creativity is like complaining that late night TV hosts are boring and derivative when that's the entire fucking point.

>> No.21991806

>>21991542
numberfagging again?
>>21991545
How about Millie's game show, where the chat posts actually move the cursor on screen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAUKSOErdVA
Or how about this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd_U-aw0DDI
Or how about his one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaAIM-GM8FQ&t=6728

>> No.21991819

>>21991611
>handcam unboxing stream
>Gingerbread house handcam stream
creative! innovative! the state of nijicucks hahaha

>> No.21991824

>>21991611
You're new as fuck. Pomu is okay but a lot of these streams and everything Rosemi does is derivative of old popular content, like what most vtubers do. Pomu I'll give has some great streams but Rosemi has built her entire channel over butchering much better streams other vtubers already did and selling an awful repackage of them. Her game show couldn't even operate. She's one of the worst vtubers on the scene and gets excuses for a ton of garbage.

You're way too new to be discussing what's creative or original. Myth April Fools is much fresher than anything on the written list. I'm not about to go parse through the linked one

>> No.21991843

i like penises

>> No.21991859

>>21991640
I'm not here to sway anyone, I just want to see the lengths holobronies will go to.

>> No.21991868

>>21991843
shut the fuck up, Fulgur

>> No.21991877

>>21991528
It's a literal Asian thing because they follow the Lunar Calendar. If anything this proves they're both KR ethnically.

>> No.21991893

>>21991692
>>21991819
>Several examples listed
>At best you can point out one or two faults
Lol
Lmao even

>> No.21991922

>>21991806
>How about Millie's game show, where the chat posts actually move the cursor on screen?
you do remember Ame's first outfit reveal stream right, anon? wahahaha Just proves that your ''creativity'' cope are actually just a copycat

>> No.21991947

>>21991877
Elira is not korean you dumbass. She spontaneously got the idea for that stream the day before because she was chatting with her fans about how messy her room was

>> No.21991948

Nijisanji defending their way of doing things:
>>21983285
>>21986475
>>21986852
Hololive doing the same
>Cope Nijiniggers, we are better
If politics have told me something, once you have to write an essay you already lost
And a final note to OP:
Seethe Nijinigger there is a lot of streamers in Hololive that make quality content, watch streams

>> No.21991959

>>21991824
>Myth April fools is much fresher
And he calls other people newfags lmao, you really can't make this shit up.

>> No.21992004

>>21983285
random numberfagging celebration stream like 522k or 380k, can someone post that pic

>> No.21992009

>>21991922
Rosemi does an astronomy knowledge stream that she actually read books and studied for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nZTTUmX7E

Rosemi does her own saturday night live skit show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dv-c0c_bfU

Rosemi decides to stream 12 hours nonstop, letting the marbles choose her fate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge264beI6L0

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>nijinigger goes through lengths just to prove that he's a bitter fag that can't accept that hololive is better than nijisanji

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>>21983373
based
>>21983285
didn't read

>> No.21992036

>>21992009
Myth April Fools was better, cope.

>> No.21992045

uhm maybe people like the streamer regardless of the content and "creativity" isn't an issue? pekora can get 15k on a random zatsu

>> No.21992049

>>21991611
I wonder how the first Pomura stream would have gone over with the hololive audience? Would they have been mad at the fake-out?

>> No.21992070

>>21991947
Then she prob has a KR bf, the signs are all right there.

>> No.21992124

lmao offline hotel fuck is so le la creative boys

>> No.21992136

Why are diehard niji fans like this? We don't care about your chuubas no matter how much you shill them.

>> No.21992135

>>21992045
Good thing I can choose a good personality AND creative streams! Sorry you Holobronies have to pick just one.

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>>21992135
>a good personality AND creative streams
But nipplesanji has neither of those

>> No.21992214

>>21983285
>>21986475
>>21986852
>>21991790
>>21992009
nijiEN shills would really post a wall of text just to advertise their two views huh???

>> No.21992221

>>21992135
Nobody in Nijien has a good personality save for maybe elira

>> No.21992239

>>21992136
Wouldn't be a problem if Holobronies weren't so sensitive. What's wrong with admiting your girls are boring? You can still watch them.

>> No.21992256

>>21992009
its commendable that she put in work for those but none of these are creative...

>> No.21992260

>>21992135
>good personality
>nijien
hahahaha!!!

>> No.21992281

>>21992200
>>21992221
>>21992260
Holocope lmao

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Pomu draws arbocs because....nobody really knows why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMIoYn8Acc

Pomu decides to stream Gang Beasts and laughs harder than I've ever heard throughout the entire stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8huDmrd-Fo&t=7163

Pomu actually does running-streams for membership. She actually runs during the stream and talks to chat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utbtoYOE68M

Pomu does this crazy stream to stress test her PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb6jpMVzGNw

>> No.21992305

>>21992281
Nijicope lmao

>> No.21992318

>>21992239
>holoen boring
>has the best viewer retention on the market
the stats say different, nijibro kek

>> No.21992331

>>21992256
Yes they absolutely are creative anon. Nobody else does streams like that except Rosemi. Those are truly "Rosemi streams"

>> No.21992337

>>21992239
>What's wrong with admitting your girls are boring?
Well you would know, right ESLfag ?

>> No.21992406

>>21992135
no good personality will drop f words every 4 secs

>> No.21992417

whens the next offcollab orgy tho? i wanna watch creativity too lmao

>> No.21992421

>>21992293
none of these streams are entertaining

>> No.21992458

>>21992421
Yeah they are anon. Pomu is 1 of a kind.

You're just a hololive tribalist. You only like something if it has the hololive brand logo on it.

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Can you get a trip already so we can filter you?

>> No.21992518

>>21992421
The Ultimate vtuber sim is an amazing stream. I dont even watch Pomu that much and it is still one of my favorite streams.

>> No.21992569

>>21992458
Nah, I watch other chuubas from other companies and indies, I also watch Niji JP. I just don't like NijiEN that much because they're boring and act like twitch whores and also their fans are fucking stupid.

>> No.21992592

>>21992569
/thread

>> No.21992594

is this thread the result of a nijinigger abusing stimulants?
imagine watching nijiEN after the shit 3rd gen pomu and rosemi were the only reason i stuck around until they got fucked by males

>> No.21992629

this is case where the streamer has no real talent whatsoever, they would just do lol so randum like running while talking to retards then call it a day

>> No.21992665

>>21992594
>Le 1st and 2nd gen golden days meme.
KYS

>> No.21992786

>Niji cope threads on why Nijisanji is better
Essays written as if they're rushing to write on their AP World History exam

>Holo troll threads to get a reaction out of Nijisisters
lmao fulgur fat

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>> No.21992787

>>21992629
>says Nijisanji isn't creative
>proven wrong
>then says "you're just doing random things"
Stick to a narrative.

Don't you have an Elden Ring stream to be watching? Shuffle along now.

>> No.21993100

>>21992787
>watch me run lol
>oh god pomu is so creative boys
this is you btw, also it doesn't mean that your doing random shit like eating shit automically makes it good brainrotted nipplenigger

>> No.21993184

>>21993100
Compared to what? Holo doing VRchat dance streams? Yawn, VRchat dancing streams have been a thing for ages, nothing unique to Holo

>> No.21993269

>>21993184
your nijishit still copied them like theres no tommorow

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21993317

>Nijiniggers seething in the catalog every day
You love to see it

>> No.21993409

creative = entertaining?

>> No.21993455

>>21991430
petra isnt creative or interesting. she's the most boring chuuba ive ever seen.
you're right about the other ones though t.nijinigger

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Niji isn't creative? Explain this then.

>> No.21993504

>>21983285
Ok but... Let's just assume the text part is true. Why does it have Selen's face? Are you implying Selen is creative in the content department? If you are confident in her creativity, why not mention it in text? If you are not confident in her creativity, why use her as an image representing this topic?

>> No.21993623

>>21993493
this is just sad.

>> No.21993663

>>21993504
its a copypasta + selen image
>>21980730

>> No.21994080

>>21991528
>gets told why he's wrong
>repeats himself
Is... is this what tribalfagging (for Nijisanji, no less) does to a person?
>>21992665
I'm assuming you're a femcel, given that you're denying reality? 3rd gen was lackluster. Everything afterwards has been a disaster.

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>>21983285
Wake me up when a Holo does something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFD-CuVZKA

>> No.21994373

>>21992331
You should try setting foot on twitch nijinigger and you’d know these aren’t new at all.

>> No.21995833

>>21993493
i mean whoring himself out to the chinese fujos is something nobody in HoloEN was doing.

you can get a creativity point for that i guess

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