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21821318 No.21821318 [Reply] [Original]

I'm scared of giant international corpos managing my oshi as their asset. i hope mori doesn't go a dark path and end up making the biggest mistake of her life.

>> No.21821418

>>21821318
This isn't actually the big thing deadbeats are making it out ot be. There are multiple literally who Nijis signed to them.

>> No.21821482

Mori sold out when she joined Hololive. Compared to that this is nothing.

>> No.21821489

She already sold her creative freedom and personal preferences to become Mori, this isn't a big change.

>> No.21821550

>>21821318
She’s not as contract savvy as suityan, mori is just an idiot.

>> No.21821578

I'm more worried that if it works out, a big company will just buy hololive and then that will be the end of Haachama and Marine type content.

Also I think this is probably more correctly framed as a partnership between Universal and Hololive itself, with Mori being the test subject. If it does well I don't think the chief beneficiary financially will be Mori.

>> No.21821587

Mori became a double sellout. Nothing much has changed since her entire life is one big mistake. It's a miracle she survived as long as she did.

>> No.21821626
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She did fine with Universal, why would it be any different with Mori?

>> No.21821710

>>21821318
>Already owned by Cover
>Afraid of Universal
Funny

>> No.21821921

>>21821318
Hololive is a time bomb.
They will get pozzed if they keep toying around with globohomo giants like Hollywood and Universal.
And by pozzed I don't mean the mild homo fujo-pandering Nijisanji does.
Vtubing will join the pile of ruined hobbies like games, music, movies, tv, etc.

>> No.21822118

>>21821418
who are those Nijis

>> No.21822177

>>21821318
I was around back when petit fleurs got signed on and if they're any metric for how things'll go now, you have nothing to worry about.

>> No.21822304

>>21822118
Otogibara Era and Morinaka Kazaki from Nijisanji got signed on in 2019 as a duo unit called petit fleurs.

Era has since graduated, but it was unrelated.

>> No.21822343

>>21821318
I hope that's what ends happening and she gets to bloom her career into stardom but faraway from my chuubas.

>> No.21822461
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We've always wanted to break into the Japanese and weeb market and thanks to Calli that dream will come true

>> No.21822505

>>21822304
EMI =/= UMJ

>> No.21822581

>>21821626
Mori is with the REAL Universal and not the cheap Japanese sise branch.

>> No.21823105

>>21821318
>I hope the chip-on-her-shoulder, insecure, supposed druggie, cuck porn reviewing, scared-of-confrontation alcoholic doesn't end up getting bad ended by Hollywood, who are absolutely not in any way notorious for making people into walking human mistakes like all those celebrities I see everywhere! Sure hope that doesn't happen!
lol
lmao
Mori's dead as a doornail if she keeps on the way she has been.

>> No.21823454

>>21821318
Being tied to a giant like Universal will allow her to leverage her work ethic in ways that would be otherwise impossible. Like she would probably stagnate around 2-3 million subs without it, but with it, she could very well reach 10 digit subscriber counts. Also, it's likely that doing big live shows in America was probably not going to be possible without the support of a giant like Universal.

>> No.21823543

>>21822505
Japanese EMI =/= UK EMI
Japanese EMI has Sheena ringo, RADWIMPS and Zutomayo. It has very little thing to do with UK EMI with Queen, Justine bieber.
Japanese EMI is under Universal Music Japan as well as Virgin record. Both of them are G-league in the international music scene.
There is no Mori or any aforementioned Japanese artists here: https://emirecords.com/artists/
She is listed here: https://www.universal-music.co.jp/artists/?l=emi-records
Noted that most western artists are listed in Universal International or USM Japan for the Japanese market.

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>>21821318
Don't worry, I got this.

>> No.21824687

>>21822581
Sure thing anon, next you're gonna say you're part of the REAL Organization XIII

>> No.21824692

>>21821318
So mori will be the amy winehouse of vtubing?
Can't wait lmao

>> No.21824954

>>21822118
Exactly.

>> No.21825003

>>21824692
If she actually gets any higher up she'll start hanging out with different actual celebs too, TT was literally just foreshadowing. She'll get drugged up at some high class hollywood party and passed around like some slam pig, rape and kiddy diddling is all they've got in that hell hole these days.

>> No.21825249

>>21825003
Most big time celebs wouldn't touch Mori with a stick. She'll get fucked alright but it'll be just one degenerate, they won't pass her around.

>> No.21825556

>>21825249
They pass dumb women around for favors and such. It doesn't have to be to someone big, just someone bigger than they are currently that can get them more mobility in the industry, then they'll toss Mori if they don't think she's good/hot enough to get them any more favors.

>> No.21825612

>>21821318
Good thing she's still under Cover then

>> No.21826331

>>21821318
It is nothing compare to chunking lean.

>> No.21826595

>>21825556
They pass attractive dumb women.

>> No.21826764

>>21821318
Too late for that anon the suits at UMG own her now and they wont be afraid to crack the whip on her she is they're money printing milking cow now

>> No.21826824

>>21826595
They'll put her on one of those anorexic diets to make her slim down fast. She was kind of pretty in those old photos, she at least had decent enough tits, they'll get her back to that level so she's useful again.

>> No.21827103

Somehow the catastrophizing about Mori signing on to Universal has driven home for me how little you freaks go outside.

>> No.21827481

What even is the advantage of being signed to a record label when her entire fanbase and distribution is already online? It's not like she would benefit from being marketed to normies

>> No.21827829

>>21826824
You are just writing out your sexual fantasies now.

>> No.21827869

>>21827103
Not any of those anons, but the fact that you're here at all, in /vt/ of all places, and in a shitpost thread at that, means you're hardly in a position to judge anyone. Ever. Maybe criminals.

>> No.21827950

>>21827103
I work a day job and function as a normal adult i don't see why people having fears or opinions is bad maybe grow up a little champ

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>>21827829
Ew.
>a literal Mori ntr route
The deadbeats would get off to it more than I ever could.

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>>21825003
>>21825249
>>21825556
>>21826824
>>21828344
>Dreaming up hypotheticals about someone you don't like getting dicked, then projecting said made up fantasy on their fans, as if you aren't the one who dreamt of it
What do you call this mental illness? Any psych majors here? Is it due to lack of a father figure?

>> No.21829491

>>21821318
I just hope she get sucked into drug abuse and kills herself, is that too much to ask?

>> No.21829592

>>21829491
sounds reasonable

>> No.21829736

>>21829293
projection.

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This thread

>> No.21829954

>>21821482
>>21821489
preach

>> No.21830655

>morally bankrupt
>only cares about the music and the money, people be damned
>muh music culture
she’ll fit right in

>> No.21830877

So kayne collab confirmed?

>> No.21832702

>>21821578
Neither of the two does this kind of quirky content anymore.
Even Chammers is doing a very mild version of it.

>> No.21832805

>>21823543
People will ignore this. All they see is the parent company.

>> No.21832905

>>21832702
Can't be sex or spider eating nightmares it'll freak the kids out

It will, it's hard to explain and most parents/normies can't deal with it.

Japan is it's own thing so whatever they'll do is whatever they do, but yeah, for the rest of the world gotta have a clean face. They're not anonymouse out there.

>> No.21832989

>>21832805
nipplesanji also ignored that Kuzuha also signed under UMG.

If they fear that Mori will lost her soul siging with a big music corpor then Kuzuha might already lost it long time ago.

>> No.21833158

in b4 ppl realize that this isnt some massive music deal theres dogshit nijis that are on these contracts as well typical autistic mori hyping it up tho so everyone can be let down lmao

>> No.21833283

>>21833158
You dropped these: eoe ‘ . ‘ . , .

>> No.21833309

>>21827950
Zoomers think not caring about things is somehow a substitute for having a personality.

>> No.21834943

>>21821318
If there are darker ramifications for this, we won't see them for a while.
>>21821418
That depends on how involved they'll be this time. As far as I know, they literally didn't do anything for those nijis, which might've been a blessing in disguise.

>> No.21835258

>>21821318
Mori is a corpo scum now. Accept reality

>> No.21835353

>>21835258
>now
Being owned by a label has been her dream since she was sipping lean out of a bottle.

>> No.21835527

>>21821318
I've posted before that she should make her choice to either use Hololive to further indie career after graduation or just go balls deep as a corpo. I guess she made her choice.

>> No.21835802

>>21835258
Anon Cover is a corp.

>> No.21835922

So is Mori universal Japan or in the same leagues as like, Ed sheeran etc. ?

>> No.21835967

>>21821318
Reminder that Jewish music contracts made Gibara retire

>> No.21836205

>>21835922
I think it's Universal Music Japan EMI Records, and have to remember it's probably not her roommate that's signed up but the literal corpo asset entity known was Calliope Mori™

>> No.21836288

>>21836205
see
>>21823543

>> No.21836321

>>21821318
You should be more scared that of the countless vtubers out in the world that you chose mori to be your oshi

>> No.21836397

>>21836321
I liked hanging out during the long streams she's got a quiet voice when chat slows down it's nice

>> No.21836415

>>21821318
I hope she ODs on lean

>> No.21836484

>>21836397
I can stream quietly for a long time too, will you give me money?

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>>21836484
No

>> No.21836701

>>21835353
>a woman's dream is to be owned
pottery

>> No.21836747

>>21836701
>>21834667

>> No.21836797

>>21836747
>rough nipple play
She really did join the wrong company...

>> No.21836855

She'll get cancelled for her nigga tweets

>> No.21836874

>>21836797
You need at least 5 levels in ACTUAL sex before you can join niji

>> No.21837111

>>21825003
H—h-hot…

>> No.21838956

>>21825003
>kiddy diddling
Mori is gonna be living her dream

>> No.21839055

>>21832989
That's really reassuring actually. Not to sound like a newfag, but I have no idea about music labels as they relate to the vtubing scene. The fact that it has been done before is very reassuring. I can sleep soundly tonight. Thank you.

>> No.21839091

have the jews not taken enough from us? Does cover have no spine? No pride?

>> No.21839381

>>21821482
>>21821489
Bold of you to assume she had values to begin with

>> No.21839726

>>21823543
Holy crap she is standing with big names like RADWIMP, 9mm, Sheena and several 48 group?

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>>21821318
Oh well, no one can make her graduate or stop her from drinking lean now

>> No.21839890
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21839890

>Calli's music will be used to push US hiphop/rap culture and be used as a vector to destabilize JP homogeneity and push interracial mixing

>> No.21840034

>>21823543
And people probably deadbeats and clueless eop just parade the Universal logo as if she got into the international one.
But honestly, while Japanese EMI might seems small to the international audiences, it actually got very well known artists like the one you stated.
Both Sheena Ringo and RADWIMPS have performed at Budokan. Isn't performing at Budokan one of the most prestigious achievement available to JP artists? Artists that have a chance to performed at Budokan is absolutely a top tier in JP.

>> No.21840824

>>21821318
It's another layer of work for her to take on, when as she is already complaining that she already has too much work. At some point something is going to to have to give out, and the very least she's going to have to scale back. This could mean less daily Mori live stream appearances for us, or maybe no more outside work for the Twitch leaches that she just can't say no to.

>> No.21840943

>>21840034
The fact she’s under universal even if it’s a sub branch is still huge

>> No.21840965

>>21840824
>This could mean less daily Mori live stream appearances
Yes please, just go full vsinger and never appear in a stream again.

>> No.21841327

>>21821489
That's an unfortunate truth.
But honestly is it better to have your roommate be a huge name, or you being a literal who.

>> No.21844666

>>21840034
Universal Japan in general is a top label in Japan regardless of the sublabels.
Budokan is more symbolic of the rising star since the venue is not that large. Kohaku appearance and Tokyo Dome concert are more prestige.

>> No.21844724

>>21836205
>that's signed up but the literal corpo asset entity known was Calliope Mori™
that's kinda cyberpunk and creepy

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21846518

She's the fucking man
and you're the fucking man as well
so point that
fucking finger
up your ass

>> No.21848929

>>21825003
Considering her physical condition and weight, it won't happen

>> No.21851194

>>21821318
>I'm scared of giant international corpos managing my oshi
Anon. Do you know what Cover is?

>> No.21854283

Will this ruin her roommate's stuff? Roommate has been branching out far lately, seems weird that she would sign to a label with holo and not her actual self

>> No.21854405

>>21821921
>Nijisanji
Owned by the 4th biggest bank in Japan and the only one that isn't from before ww2. They're globohomo at full steam.

>> No.21854534

>>21851194
Not giant, not international, and not run by jews?

>> No.21854646

>>21821921
>>21854405
It's inevitable right? It's just the slow wait for it to become overwhelming and then we move on to the next thing. Gotta keep your eyes out for whatever that's going to be.

>> No.21854827

>>21821318
>I'm scared of giant international corpos managing my oshi as their asset.
You watch Hololive. Sit down

>> No.21854854

She's retarded enough to put all of her eggs into this one corporate basket and alienate her fans.

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>>21821318
I assmue holos have lawyers available to read contracts without getting fucked and enough negotiating power to make deals that aren't shit
especially people like Mori and Suisei who aren't pushovers

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chang'd

>> No.21855184

>>21821921
>>21854405
>>21854646
>Vtubing will join the pile of ruined hobbies like games, music, movies, tv, etc.
If Hololive ends up like my other hobbies and goes full on globohomo, I may just quit life and go off grid. Or retire to some monastery (then get kicked out for hating on jews.)

>>21822461
I always wondered why hating against such a group of evil people has to be a fucking hate crime, when everyone in society hates everyone.

>> No.21855225

I'm not surprised Mori jumped on this.
See you got to remember that initially she was pretty resentful of her success in hololive.
She'd been trying to get somewhere with her music for years on her own and now suddenly success but she owned none of it.
When her time with Cover inevitably ended she'd be right back where she was to begin with.

But now? With this deal?
She's connected to that personally in the eyes of an external corp. When she leaves Hololive she can leverage her past work to get her own music that she owns published by them.
This is it. She's on the road to success that isn't reliant on Cover.

>> No.21855279

>>21854283
No the roommate will be hitching a ride all the way.

>> No.21856279

>>21855225
To add to your post: Her roommate is streaming more and even acknowledging things, but still wants to keep it separate for now. She's definitely trying to move away from Hololive in the future.

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>>21856279
This was always going to happen.
She's savvy enough to understand to strike while the iron is hot.
She needs to exploit the fact that her connection to Mori is a public secret while Mori is still popular.
Using Covers resources to build her own brand as much as possible.

Cover knows she's doing this and don't seem to care. Which makes sense, there's no reason for them to care. If they cracked down on it she'd probably leave and cause a shitstorm in the process.
This way everyone wins, everyone makes money and everyone is happy.
Plus her experience to this point actually makes her ideal for Cover in a lot of ways, she's professional and understands how to behave in the business capacity.

>> No.21856883

>>21823543
Thank you for the truth. Deadbeats being disingenuous

>> No.21857049

>>21854989
Most of them are pretty retarded, though, if we're being honest. I tend to doubt most of them have any such thing, even the rich ones.

>> No.21857374

>>21857049
Cover will be providing legal reps for this. They own the character after all.

>> No.21857418

>>21825003
Don't worry, she is too fat and ugly for that

>> No.21857555

So how much will she be getting on this one after cuts? $1000?

>> No.21857670

>>21857418
More than that, she is too old, but being somewhat fat(with fat milkers mind you) or anything else isnt gonna shield her of shit on parties if it comes down to that.

>> No.21857761

>>21821318
Sony (SACRA MUSIC) -> Mito
Lantis -> Deron
Universal -> Raindrops (Akina, Ryuushen, Joe, Meiji, Eru, Masaru)
NBC -> Kazaki, Trinity (Rion, Hakase, Furen)
Denonbu (Bandai) -> (Sister Claire, Hoshikawa, Sukoya)
Indie -> Yumeoi
Nothing will happen to Mori or vtuber

>> No.21860902

>>21821318
don't worry

>> No.21866604

>>21823543
why are record labels so confusing

>> No.21867051

>>21844724
It's not that strange, think of it like a stage name except it's 2 degrees of separation instead of 1.

>> No.21867138

>>21855184
If it helps I don't think it'll happen with any of the current JP gens, so might be several years after all the og have already graduated.

>> No.21871706

>>21822461
Is that Weinstein?

>> No.21872491

>>21839890
Calli already wanted to mix, in more ways than one.

>> No.21875363

>>21826764
She signed to Universal Music Japan - not the big boi UMG. They use the name under license, and I'm pretty sure the licensing agreement is so old, Universal still fucking owned UMG.
>>21866604
Because old, rich white people deemed it so.
>Warner Music Group - not owned by AT&T/Warner Bros
>Universal Music Group - not owned by Universal/Comcast
>BMG - not owned by Bertslelslelelemenn
>EMI...every piece of its corpse is owned by someone else
Sony...wait, Sony actually owns all of their namesake brands. And "old" BMG. Music, film...all of it. If they divested something, it ain't fuckin called "Sony" anymore. And they say YWNBJ to all the other labels.
On second thought, it's a bit of a blessing that AOL Time Warner and VivendiUniversal made the bone-headed move of dumping their labels when the record industry was in a slump. Can you imagine if fucking AT&T or Comcast or fucking Verizon or any telco controlled a music label too? Instead of the relative free-for-all when it comes to music streaming options you'd be forced into juggling separate services for each label like Hulu, Disney+, Peacock, etc. Don't get any fucking ideas you niggers, music is far too easy to pirate.

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>>21856655
>she's professional and understands how to behave in the business capacity
You went off the rails a fair bit there, but I can mostly agree with most of what you've said.

>> No.21884270

lol cringe

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