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Can nijen reach the same high as holoen ? What's in store for nijien future?

>> No.21813605
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Only despair

>> No.21813635

Misery of their own making.

>> No.21813726

>What's in store for nijien future?
Vox conquering China in the name of Liz.

>> No.21813749

>>21813506
In subs? never
in CCV? only Selen

>> No.21813812

yeah, sure

>> No.21813837

>>21813506
dont worry, more male collabs on the way

>> No.21813934

the ace of holoen is marketable, cute, safe and a singer
the ace of nijien is a prostitute for 14 year old chinese girls who's mainly known for cooming
I wonder which will advertisers like more

>> No.21813969

>What's in store for nijien future?
To become the NijiJP of EN vtubers. Where it dominates the male vtuber market.

>> No.21814009

>>21813726
He'd probably be a worse dictator than Winnie.

>> No.21814011

I actually started watching NijiEN just before the penis arrived and they were legit really good. Completely different feel and fresh as hell when coming from HoloAutismEN. It's kind of sad to see how much the girls are suffering now and completely ignored by the company. Stopped watching them as the males are insufferable wet fags that keep fucking up their kino streams.

Genuinely feel for the sane Nijifags who hate the males. They're not all bad.

>> No.21814121

>>21814011
Watch Petra. She just collabs with Shu and Oliver and otherwise does great solo content - barring the company mandated asymmetrical kusoge collabs, that is. And Shu acts like an accessory to Petra and not vice versa. He's a good boy too if you like watching males.

>> No.21814164

>>21813506
Maybe. I wouldn't bet on it, but it's not impossible.

While not to my taste, the OTV/"Streamer house" style they're going for obviously has it's fans, and the collab meta on twitch is meta for a reason. People like seeing their favorite streamers interact, collabs are generally less stressful than solo streams so they can pump out more content, and, perhaps most importantly, it creates drama. You might think drama as only a negative, but it does bring in rubberneckers and some of them will stick around. Controversy acts as advertisement, for example I didn't even know Uki or Fulgur's name before people started getting mad about them.

They face a shitton of competition in this area from conventional streamers, but you could argue there's also too much saturation in the standard vtuber arena. I'm not sure how Chinese fujo OLs will play into this.

>> No.21814308

The rest of HoloEN? maybe, if they work really hard.

Myth is probably too stacked with both talent and circumstance for anyone else to approach

>> No.21814375

>>21813506
>the same high as holoen
They're already at council's level. Myth is by far an outlier in all of vtubing and attracted a ton of non-vtuber fans, I don't ever want another group, be it hololive or nijisanji, to reach that level of popularity with normalfags again

>> No.21814456

>>21813506
ofc they can, Xi Hao Ming from Tencent will provide the funds

>> No.21814476

>>21813506
Yes.
But not the girls those are fucked.

>> No.21814510

>>21813506
Suffering, Luna knows what's up.

>> No.21814545

>>21814121
>if you like watching males.
kek

>> No.21814608

>>21814510
she's keeping her connections with Kiara, she knows the Luna way

>> No.21814811

I think they'll be alright, and /vt/ willl keep making threads and writing essays about them but not because they care or anything b-b-baka

>> No.21814827

>>21813506
At same level as Myth fuck no. Their most popular member has even less broad market appeal than Mori with her niche JP inspired electro swing rap. They need a member to blow up that can appeal a wide audience currently their target audience is too specific.

>> No.21814919

>>21813506
I can imagine the average Holobrony pomudachi
>Watching Pomu sucking a MGS but loving the shit out of it
>Laughing every time she dubs over ZANZIBAR speech
>He glances at the ccv
>barely but never reaching 3000 watching
>His grim drops into a frown
>He mutters "if she was in holoEN she would more successful"
>Gets angrier "She would have 10k watching her"
>Now he can't enjoy the stream to its fullest anymore
>He opens /vt/ and find a thread to shit on nijiEN while listening to the stream
>Pomudachi? POMUDACHI! POMUDACHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>> No.21814967

>>21813934
Me, I wonder which persona will get tired faster. Vox is just as degenerate as his audience, hangs out with whoever and talks about his obsessions whenever he feels like it. The holos are all less PG than their personas and (besides Kiara and maybe Ina) but up against their persona's restrictions quite often

>> No.21814982

>>21814919
what is with this schizo projection, lol

>> No.21815008

>>21814919
Just take the entire bottle, clearly meds aren't enough

>> No.21815088

A lot of things had to go right to make Myth what it is, and half of these are completely outside any vtuber agency's control. NijiEN could reach the normal baseline for Holo, but probably not that

>> No.21815115

>>21814919
That sounds like someone is angry that she doesn't get enough recognition more than anything.

>> No.21815276

They're in a weird spot right now, but it'll improve with time.

Current main complaint is how overcrowded everything feels, but as NijiEN grows they'll no doubt sift out into smaller friend groups that mostly benefit from the large number of livers when it comes to special events. Same way it went with NijiJP.

Have faith.

>> No.21815315

>>21813506
>What's in store for nijien future?
WAR! WAR! WAR!
ALL OUT WAR!

>> No.21815545

>>21814982
I dont know anon, you tell me why there so much shitposting about Pomu and numbers
when Selen get 5k ccv doing something is pretty "ok cool"
but anytime Pomu more than her usual is a shitshow

also lazusydia in only days she was the main subject of "trade offer" threads

>> No.21815685

>>21813934
t. threadwatcher

>> No.21815807

>>21813506
Pregnancy

>> No.21815883

>>21813506
NA watches Hololive. Pandering to China is not a good way to garner NA viewers.

>> No.21816071

>>21815883
To be fair, the niji females also has NA as their main audience with the exception of maybe Millie and Nina? Only the fags has monkeys as their main audience.

>> No.21816173

>>21814121
all of obsydia is still really good

>> No.21816251

>>21814982
>>21815008
>>21815115
bronydachi cope

>> No.21816519

>>21813506
>reach the same high
so close ESLchama

>> No.21816530

>>21814967
Trust me, it'll be Vox. Letting your Id side run wild seems like a sweet gig, especially if your getting paid to do it. But even that gets tiring after awhile.

>> No.21817044

>>21814011
Elira, Finana, Petra, Selen, Millie, and Enna are all fairly good about keeping their explicitly solo streams purely solo, though the latter two have talked about wanting to branch out and be more active. Elira in particular goes out of her way to indicate when things are going to be "open collabs", like with her Minecraft streams.

>> No.21817202

>>21814121
Petra is still cursed but decent in content

>> No.21817239

>>21813506
a whorehouse.

>> No.21818407

>>21814919
>only holobronies are the numberfags
roru
rumau even

>> No.21820216

>>21814967
Gura already went through this in her past life, its 100% the degenerate style that will wipe him out more, mainly because its just generally more toxic and soul crushing. She is 1000% more happy as things are now.

>> No.21820592

>>21813506
>Will they reach the same highs as Holo
No, but who cares? Content is what matters, not numbers. If you disagree there's a containment thread for you.

>> No.21824640

>>21813749
that 5k ccv fat whore can't even reach council numbers kek

>> No.21824897

>>21814375
>council level
Ah you mean Sana level? That's not saying much. Vox is the only good one. The girls? Yeah they all suck.

>> No.21825428

>>21824640
Yeah but she reached Sana numbers that one time

>> No.21825971

>>21825428
What are Sana numbers anyway?
>2.7k
>2.8k
>3k
Even other NijiEN girls can break that

>> No.21825997

>>21813506
Vox? Sure. Some of the other guys might stand out as well.
The girls? Not a chance, they've already made their bed as accessory png's to other streamers

>> No.21826372

>>21813506
>Can nijen reach the same high as holoen ?
Possible, but highly improbable. HoloEN had perfect timing, debuting when interest for hololive vtubers was at a peak among the western anime community.
>What's in store for nijien future?
A solid fanbase with the occasional bump in popularity every time a new male wave debuts.

>> No.21826975

>>21813506
I'm not sure if they'll ever reach HoloEN's popularity, but at the same time I don't think it's a huge problem if they don't. They're all clearly still successful enough to live off their streaming, as proved with both Pomu and more recently Rosemi quitting their OL jobs to stream full time. As long as they can maintain their current numbers, there shouldn't be any issues.

>> No.21827346

>>21813506
graduation because of nipple porn

>> No.21827466

>>21813749
She could barely rival sana...

>> No.21827672

>>21813506
Yeah like eventually possible.
I feel like HoloEN has a lot more empty subs per chuuba compared to NijiEN.
So even though NijiEN probably won't ever catch up in raw sub count.
I think in terms of monetization earned, NijiEN could catch up faster than HoloEN pulls away.

>> No.21827684

>>21813506
They'll never win the numbers, but their streams are the most fun so they win my heart.

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>>21813506
>Can nijen reach the same high as holoen ?
No
>What's in store for nijien future?
More streams from my cute bitchy Chinese wife

>> No.21829713

>>21813506

Short answer: No

Long Answer: No lmao.

>> No.21829885

No. The future is only more depravity.

>> No.21832877

>>21813506
The boys ? Yes
Girls ?? No ..... future ? Maybe 1 or 2 , but it will be very very very hard .

>> No.21834206

>>21814919
Do holobronies literally stare at the viewercount of the stream? I'm watching a stream right now with 400 viewers and having a blast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DH3dj8MsSQ

>> No.21834980

>>21834206
Listen, if low numbers gatekeep my favorite 2view indies from annoying Holotoddlers, I'm fine with them staying at ~30-200 viewers per stream

>> No.21835127

>>21813506
not with that management :OMEGALUL:

>> No.21835596

>>21813506
probably be like the nba and the aba

>> No.21836983

>>21814476
Figuratively AND Literally!

>> No.21840495

>What's in store for nijien future?

43 more vtubers over the next calendar year

>> No.21844609

>>21813506
Holostars is gonna overtake them at this rate

>> No.21844664

>>21813506
NijiEn with be the backbone of anykara and NijiJp will be stagnant until forgotten. Neoporte will poach kuzuha and kanae

>> No.21844677

>>21813726
Better do it quick, she doesn't have that many years left.

>> No.21845135
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NijiEN will forever be below HoloEN

>> No.21845224

>>21813506
unreleased vtuber

>> No.21845619

>>21844609
You do realize overtaking NijiEN means overtaking half of council right? I can't wait to see you holofags start to suck star's dick hard as your brain obsessed with winning the other tribe

>> No.21846027

>>21845619
Council don't get 1k viewers what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.21846212

>>21846027
>Holostars is gonna overtake them at this rate
The fact is that some council member is getting outperformed by many NijiEN members especially male. So if holostars manage to >overtake them then it means overtaking some of the council too. Don't you get it?

I just can't wait to see that anons prediction come true so I can see you holofags sucking males' dick just because they mogged Vox.

>> No.21846276

>>21813506
This just in vox and mysta has been signed to major JAV label, tag exposure, bbc coming soon.

>> No.21847246

aren't a bunch of nijiens already making way more in donations than holoen

>> No.21847291

>>21813506
>What's in store for nijien future?
high turnover for female members

>> No.21847340

>>21814121
>guy talks about how niji sucks now that the males have arrived
>"watch this female streamer who collabs with males"

>> No.21847385

>>21846212
The lowest performing Council member gets higher numbers than the highest performing female NijiEN

>> No.21847502

>>21847385
Nah, both Nina and Elira have past Sana in subs, not to mention Pomu mogged Mumei and bae in superchat last month.

>> No.21847542

>>21847502
viewers determines the popularity of a vtuber

>> No.21847727

>>21813506
the only way for nijien to win is if holoen's males will be even worse than nijien's

>> No.21849913

>>21814011
>It's kind of sad to see how much the girls are suffering now and completely ignored by the company
Can you elaborate on this

>> No.21850693

>>21849913
He can't, because he's regurgitating yet another unfounded /#/ narrative.

>> No.21850733

>>21813506
No. Vox will make the money of higher end Holos, but will never get the Subs of one. The other boys and girls sadly won't ever hit near peak HoloEn numbers.

>> No.21850837

>>21813506
I don't care about retarded console wars and anti-threads, I'll keep gatekeeping against Niji so Holo doesn't become full of random homos appearing into every stream.

>> No.21852142

>>21813506
Niji is AEW and hololive is WWE.
Yeah Niji is profitable and has it's following. But at the end of the day, they will always be butthurt Hololive rejects.

>> No.21857011

>>21813506
No

>> No.21857275

I just wish I could watch Selen and Pomu without having to listen to indies or nijimales I don't give a shit about.

>> No.21860695

>>21849913
He can't
>He is the one suffering because males exist
>All the girls had male chuuba friends in their PL, so rrats about "they are forced" is dumb af
>Since the males brought a giant wave of new fans alot of the girls inclined, Enna and Millie being the biggest incliners in CCV

>> No.21866339

>>21813506
>Can nijen reach the same high as holoen ?
No. Nijisanji literally invented vtstreaming and since then has been the eternal #2 by having zero quality control or branding. They're their own worst enemy.

>> No.21866398

Please stop concern trolling with my oshi

>> No.21867517

>>21814121
>Watch Petra
Why would you give such terrible advice

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