/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>21803693
Collabs are when funny things happen

>>21803788
Nothing funny ever happens and it takes away focus from the livers we are there to watch in the first place.

>(membership stream unknown, not listed as she has collabed during them in the past)
Nice lie faggot, Selen membership streams are always solo

>>21803909
She's had people pop in on them from the past, at least rumored from the dragoons who were pissed off by it.
I don't member her however so I'm relying on that rumor. If you can tell me she's never had anyone pop up on her member streams in the past you can ignore it. But since she didn't list what it was I just left it out. Otherwise you can push her down to 33%, Selen is the least consistent with collabs vs solos though and just does whatever she feels like that week, but there's consistently around 33-50% collabs for her

they try to do the same as HoloJp in its beginnings at any cost.

I thought this had to do with that rumor for a moment before I realized you were talking about how often they collab, not how much they charge.

>>21804034
Wrong and Wrong
I watched every Selen stream and you are just talking out of your ass faggot
>Members
The only time Dragoons were mad was because that 1 time *PN entered and started to spam IN CHAT about some VR shit. It was during the last minutes of the VR chibi stream.
>Selen is the least consistent with collabs vs solos
She said in membership stream that she will never have more collabs than solo streams. If she have 5 collabs then she will have the same amount or more Solo streams, just like the schedule you posted
>She's had people pop in on them from the past, at least rumored
>rumored
Don't talk about shit you don't know nigger

>>21803693
>24 hours stream which will have guaranteed collabs
And will also have guaranteed solo parts. This should count either for both solo and collab, or count it as a special event

>>21804266
You can take a chill pill dragoon.
I personally however was annoyed with 5 collabs back to back in that week and dropped her. That combined with her going to twitch.

Ironically though in that schedule she does have more collabs than solos if you remove the membership stream since not everyone can go to those. bringing it to 4:5 solos to collabs, with 1 of the solos being on twitch.

>>21804350
It counts more as a collab than a solo, otherwise you'd just claim all collabs are partially a solo because there's a 30 minute super chat reading at the end sometimes.

>>21803693
This is useful data! But,
>This is a ridiculously higher percentage of collabs even for their lowest streamer and it needs to stop.
I disagree with your conclusion. Thank you for the numbers, regardless.

>>21804426
So if she only does 4 hours of collabs, and 20 hours solo, it still counts more as a collab? Sounds stupid.

>>21804385
She admitted her error on the membership stream about having all the solo streams first and then all the collabs together too instead of mixing them
It was supposed to be 4 collabs but that shitty collab with Nina's clique got cancelled the previous week because of Mika, so she had to add it
>Ironically though in that schedule she does have more collabs than solos if you remove the membership stream since not everyone can go to those.
Stop being poor
>I personally however was annoyed with 5 collabs back to back in that week and dropped her
For a single week? This was the first time in a LONG time were she had this many collabs
>That combined with her going to twitch.
Only DeS and a few guerrillas.... 98% of all her content is still on Youtube

Anyways, get filtered

>>21804579
Well if you consider the common response to complaining about collabs is "just don't watch them" and you have no idea at any moment she's alone or talking with other people, its safe to assume if you just refuse to watch collabs you just refuse to watch the whole thing since at any given moment she has people coming in to talk to her.
If you really want to consider it a special event and remove it from the listing she's still at 50% collab rate which is still extremely high.

>>21803693
I love Pomu

>>21804782
This opinion is No Longer Permitted, please leave the echo chamber immediately.

>>21804688
>i-it doesn't count because reasons!
lol. its just statistics bro, take it up with her.

I didn't even bother mentioning how she's also the most likely to collab with flesh streamers, OTV, vshojo, and literally all the worst people on twitch.

>>21803693
>40% collab rate (membership stream unknown, not listed as she has collabed during them in the past)
you dont watch her
please kill yourself and dont talk about my oshi ever again

>>21804842
>i-it doesn't count because reasons!
I could say the same about you

>I didn't even bother mentioning how she's also the most likely to collab with flesh streamers, OTV, vshojo, and literally all the worst people on twitch.
Ah yes, conveniently forgetting about Lazulight and other Nijis inviting shit like Shoto, Amalee, Froot, ect
btw the last collab was because Gumi is a close friend to Selen from her Doki days, again, lurk more faggot or watch streams instead

dragoons once again proving to be the most obnoxious fanbase.

>>21803693
But this is normal for big company streamers.
>>21803778
>5 collabs
>3 non-collabs
>1 members-only stream
55% collab rate even if you count the member-only stream.
Kiara is going to have a 60% collab rate this week. 3 collabs and 2 non-collabs, and both of the non-collabs are yakuza 0.

>>21805291
>having comparable to holoEN is a good thing
its really not...
but on the other hand we have gura which balances it out.

>>21805428
Also Ame with 1 collab.

I don't watch holoen so I don't know their usuals as well.

>>21805291
> But this is normal for big company streamers.
It's not normal to do this week by week.
> 55% collab rate even if you count the member-only stream.
Bae amount last week was 3 collabs and 5 solo. Week before that 2 collabs and 5 solo.
> Kiara is going to have a 60% collab rate this week.
Kiara last week had 1 collab and 6 solo.

>>21805428
So 5 streams total, 2 are collabs, 40% collabs, which is more than Enna. Doesn't "balance out".

>>21803891
This was pretty funny
https://youtu.be/B-ryqcjmN6k?t=1414

>>21805813
Sorry, 5 non-members streams*

>>21805291
consider actually reading kiara's schedule, the only collabs are the two with birds - she's drawing her kouhai who is still collab banned, not doing a collab.

>>21805813
For gura, with Enna being the lowest of the NijiENs and gura having almost daily streams.
Meanwhile Ame has 1 collab out of 9 streams.

There's a variety there, and its not every week. Meanwhile these numbers are fairly consistent for NijiEN and you can't just "pick a streamer that collabs less" because the least collabing streamer still does it every other day.

Also nice cherrypicking, why you didn't post her last schedule?
>4 solo streams
>2 collabs

I honestly wonder, would people complain this much about NijiEN collabing as much as they do if there were no males (or Nina) in the branch?
NijiENs frequent impromptu collabs used to be celebrated during the Lazulight + Obsydia days.

>>21806110
Or the schedule before that?
>5 solo streams
>3 collabs

>Dragoons being retarded again
never a surprise
>>21806123
Less but its still annoying. It only really somewhat worked in the old days because the amount of streamers was less and you knew most of them. But it was still somewhat annoying because they acted like you had to know all of them. And early lazulight collab really annoyed me because it was one of those
>chat guesses who is most likely to do X
things
And the girls would constantly complain chat doesn't know every single girl because in 1 stream she said/did a thing so obviously we should perfectly know her personality. And this was when there was only 3 of them, I only gave a shit about Elira and Pomu so whenever Finana questions came up obviously I didn't care or know about her. And while the stream was still fun its that type of bs that I really hated from the start with them, expecting me to keep up with all their friends instead of just the girls i liked.

Its ok i accept your defeat
Next time don't post shit you don't know about Selen if you don't want to get shat on

>>21805428
>balances it out
Would you be fine if your oshi stopped streaming, but another one did twice the amount of streams? Might as well consider that Hololive and Nijisanji are both fine because they balance each other out.

>>21805774
3 collabs and 5 solo is still 37,5% collabs.
And if you are considering past schedules, why don't you look at Rosemi's schedule last week? 6 streams and only 1 could be considered a collab, since anyone can hop in the minecraft server at any time.

>>21806318
That wasn't a Lazulight collab? That was Rosemi's quiz show and it was one section of it where Finana got salty. Do you actually even watch them or did you just see a clip

>>21803891
I may be the minority but I don't see the appeal in banter with imaginary "Chat".
It's the same convo's over and over again.
Atleast Collabs add some sort of variety.

>>21806444
No it was one of the early lazulight collabs.
It was months ago anyways so who cares if I don't remember it perfectly.

>N-no you got 1 part of this super specific thing that happened months ago in a stream wrong
>THAT MEANS YOU NEVER WATCHED ANY OF THEM
i hope you genuinely kill yourself.

>>21803693
>one week is enough data to draw a conclusion

>>21806540
Digging through twitter for old schedules is cancer.
If you want to do it then be my guest. I picked all their latest schedules to avoid cherry picking and be unbiased as possible.

>>21806536
It kind of makes a big difference. You wrote up a huge paragraph about something that never happened. Making bullshit claims about being expected to know everybody and being complained at by everyone if you didn't. When in reality what you are talking about is a small section of a much larger quiz where one member was getting annoyed because chat was picking her for all the bad things like being messy or stinky.

Are hololive fans just confused because their talent has literally no chemistry at all, so when they see a group of people who actually want to collab with eachother often it just blows their minds?

>>21806536
You are literally talking about Rosemi's game show. And now you are mad because people are pointing out that you are angry at a something that didn't even happen.

It'd be nice if it were limited to 2 per week with the exception of team games like Apex and LoL.

>>21806778
Here's the teamup schedule /NijiEN/ uses, it's much more easier to navigate:
https://teamup.com/ks1mraas71v3fjf1c2

>>21806805
>>21806790
>immediately recognize the exact stream I was talking about
>b-but that never happened
okay.

NijiEn "problem" is not the announced collabs and obvious open VC games (Minecraft), it's the solos that become sudden collabs out of nowhere.

>>21806977
Why don't you show me a few

>>21806887
The thing is the schedules are kind of misrepresentative to begin with. Let's take a look at Elira's for example. It goes Solo, Solo, Solo, Collab that there is good chance she wont stream, Solo maybe collab, Solo, collab that there is a good chance she wont stream, collab that she probably wont stream didn't stream it before, Solo maybe collab?

In all likelihood if you don't go around following her to every collab even though you hate collabs you are probably only going to see 2 collabs on her channel and 5 solo streams this week.

>>21806974
>early lazulight collab
>it was not early
>and it was not a lazulight collab
It's like getting angry at holofes because it has people that you don't care about.

>>21803693
>it needs to stop.
why's that?

>>21807232
Because I hate the nijiniggers chemistry

Not every vtuber group are full of introverted idols that shy away from collabs. Even the more "idol-like" small corpos like Prism and Kawaii Pro have members that regularly collab and hop on streams whenever they feel like it.

>>21807327
It kind of makes me laugh the way holofags for years would say how much better their company is because everyone was real friends unlike nijisanji. Then NijiEN goes and hires a bunch of actual friends that act like friends and want to play an stream together instead of avoiding each other as much as possible. Then suddenly it's now bad for thing for members to act like friends.

>>21806110
thats literally the schedule in ops screenshot retard
>>21806174
this is even dumber than the first post somehow.

>>21807910
>thats literally the schedule in ops screenshot retard
He posted the schedule with 5 collabs when he tried to discuss
>this is even dumber than the first post somehow
Talk shit about Selen without knowing is even dumber, retard

>>21807117
>explain in detail what happened in a stream months ago
>uhm achktually it was on rosemi's channel not lazulight so you didn't watch it
can you physically cope more than this?

And no I was going through their old collabs, I was not talking about rosemi's quiz show which was a general questions. I was specifically talking about an early lazulight one where the girls were questioning chat not each other. but god damn going through old videos is impossible.

>>21803693
>it needs to stop.
Says who?

>>21807977
Look at the OP dumbass. Its literally the schedule you posted.
Why are dragoons so stupid?

>>21808054
scroll up faggot and read
why are people on this board so retarded?

>>21808054
he tried to argue against >>21804034
with his post but is to dumb to click a number and to retarded to realize that it was used as an example of something

>>21807995
You are talking about the Rosemi collab. They were questioning chat in that during the segment you are talking about. Chat had to give their vote and the girls had to guess.

>>21808403
Well whatever then.
It still happened and it was still dumb and was a big reason I started hating collabs early on because it started giving that impression they expected you to give a shit about all their friends as well as them and watch every stream.

Also just going through the NijiEN channel its hilarious how quick the quality of the shorts on it dropped from before and after the EN side released...

Holy seethe ITT, yes nijifags people hate collabs and you faggots do it too much. No reason in protecting your oshi’s honor when they don’t care about you and would rather be gangbanged by males on stream so you can watch you silly cucks.

>>21808747
I hate excessive spam of collabs too, you are not alone but you fucked up by writing miss information about my oshi so yea, kill yourself

>>21809171
nobody wrote misinformation. the OP clearly explains and shows where the information is coming from and the reasoning behind it.

I unsubbed already, :OMEGALUL:

>>21808747
You are kind of making it a bit too obvious that this kind of criticism is coming from holofags that don't even watch them to begin with. You are supposed to at least pretend like you are a fan to try and make it seem like its legitimate criticism rather than just fanboy hate.

>>21809211
>(membership stream unknown, not listed as she has collabed during them in the past)
False and then
>Selen is the least consistent with collabs vs solos
>also not counting Membership streams
>Salty about Twitch
>Accusing Selen about bringing normalfag collabs when other Nijis spam more of those than Selen

>>21809445
>OTV collab
all that needs to be said
>b-but she's friends with them
yeah she's OTV tier.

>>21809471
>OTV
>Gumi was friends with her for more than 3 years
At least pretend you watch her or better... just don't post about Selen at all if you are gonna spread miss information
gas yourself faggot

>>21809556
>literally responds with what was already quoted
this isn't even clockwork at this point.

>>21809596
>pretending that it was a really bad thing about her doing a collab with a close friend
>memory holed the other actual leeches who are friends with the other Nijis, spamming collabs
literally brain dead

I did enjoy the collabs but it has been a bit too much. Even if it is no collab the other livers get mentioned all the time.
And worse are half-assed collabs or random calls during streams. It is nice they are friends and are having fun but I want some time with my oshi too.

>>21810567
Who is your oshi?

>>21810619
you would only make fun of her and me, so I'd rather not tell, but her stream today was good.

>>21810895
Nina is the only girl that has a finished stream so far today. I don't understand how you haven't dropped her yet if you have a problem with this stuff she might be the worst for it in the whole branch.

>>21811035
Not him but while I hate nina with a passion beyond all existence.
She does stream a ton even outside of her leeching bullshit.

I can't fault her for not taking the job seriously.

>>21811035
I knew I would get a reply like this because it only make sense but I still like her

>>21803788
yeah, funny things like when nina talked about pissing on feet.

>>21803693
tl;dr: gatekeep harder, faggots

You guys bitch and whine on here where no one can see your feedback instead of saying what you want in the chats or on twitter where they can see.
>b-b-b-but I'm gonna get ratio'd on twitter and bullied!!!
Imagine being afraid of twitteens on the internet lmaooooooo

>>21804034
You might be thinking of the time IPN (not a nijisanji member) tried to make a membership stream about him by posting a bunch in the chat.
He never joined the voice call and Selen largely ignored him but he did shit up the stream.

>>21803693
I really have to say thanks to NijiEN for making me fucking hate unity now. I actually miss HoloEN and how awkward everyone feels around each other.

ITT pure distilled insanity

>>21823049
That's probably it. All I remember was a bunch of people getting pissed off at some guy.

>>21803693
I miss the days of obsydian and lazu
comfy solo streams but collabs were always common enough without being to annoying.

>>21823427
Unity was a meme. Don't ever force yourself to like or tolerate shitters like Finana, Nina, and literally-every-NijiEN-male.

>>21803693
Good! More collabs. They're not entertaining on their own (except for Rosemi)

>>21826741
>Rosetard
opinion discarded

>>21826741
>Except Rosemi
Enjoy your 57% collab rate
Also how's the members letter coming along?

This is just scheduled collabs. The worst thing is that their solo streams are constantly being invaded too.

Would be interesting too to see how often the guys collab with each other compared to the girls. It seems like the girls have all just become the sidekicks for Luca, Vox,and Mysta.

>>21827525
Quick twitter search because I'm being lazy and don't feel like doing the same as i did for the OP
tldr; its way lower than the females. with most being 0-33%, and only shu and alban being higher with shu at 66% and alban at 50%

Luca
>2/6 are collabs
>33%
Shu
>4/6collabs
>66%
Ike
>0/5
>0%
Mysta
>0/6 (maybe 1, not sure on the minecraft)
>0%
vox
>1/8 (collabing with shota outside of nijisanji)
>12.5%
Sonny
>1/6
>16%
Uki
>2/6 (maybe 3 with minecraft?)
>33%
alban
>4/8 collabs
>50%
fulgar
>2/6 collabs
>33%
Yugo
>1/5 collabs (??? hard to read that schedule)
>20%

Is the reason why /vt/ gets so hopped up over NijiEN collabing too much because the eventual HolostarsEN may bring that same culture into HoloEN?

>>21828404
I'm guessing you're basing this off schedule, not reality. Even today, Vox's GOI stream was invated by Reimu, Yugo, Ike, Shu, and Fulgur

>>21828803
I can only work off the schedules cause I don't have time to watch everyone.
I basically only watch Enna and Millie these days so anyone outside them I'm clueless of.

I know Elira is pretty consistent with her schedule though so she's the only one i can be a little more confident with.

>>21828525
I would guess that's the case. Can't wait for StarsEN, this board will be the biggest shitfest in history.

>>21829925
>They will numberfag to death their guys if they manage to be equally or better in terms of CCV and forget about everything else
enjoy

>>21827525
>It seems like the girls have all just become the sidekicks
Wouldn't happen if they had a modicum of skill as entertainers. Besides 1 or 2 of them the nijiEN dudes are simply more charismatic and entertaining, and it shows every time they collab. I'm guessing people don't like being exposed to this which is another reason collabs are shunned so much lately.
Same will likely happen with homostars EN. I'm sure people like Kiara and Mori can hold their own but I don't think the charisma void known as the council will fare as well.

>>21803693
They need to suck male cock to survive, please understand

>>21828404
The reason that you would find a low rate in male especially Luxiem member is that they would only write stream that they have a pov.

>>21838168
Not all

>>21811397
What happened to her Russian streams?

>>21806977

but thats the best part and everyone loves it.

I remember when the NijiEN impromptu minecraft collabs were seen as kino(TM) and certifiably btfo HoloEN.
How the times have changed.
Must be anons scared of men talking to their "girl".

>>21838390
>numberfags to hell and back to reach 300k by the end of the march
>still fails
Lol
Lmao

>>21838390
Sucking cocks or eternal Apex, your pick dragoons.

>>21842945
Nice one, anon. I almost fell for the bait. The reality is that it was novel at the time, and what once was novel can come to become uninteresting, or downright irritating over time and with repetition. Such is the case.

>>21844346
>The reality is that it was novel at the time
This is true, I don't disagree.
But I don't think it became uninteresting because of repetition but other resources.

>>21803909
LET ME IN

>>21843445
>numberfag
>literally does nothing to increment the subs
nice narrative faggot
>>21843659
She is the top girl, she doesn't need to leech unlike Nina.

Imagine wasting your company connections by streaming by yourself

>>21803693
They collab all the time to avoid talking to their loser audience, they cleary think fucking nothing of you and would rather hang around like faggots and only take delight in you being annoyed by it.

Don't put up with their stupid shit. Just fucking leave, Holo is still there.

>>21846754
Imagine watching live streamers without chat interactions, collabs are fun but collabs also take this core component of livestreaming away. without the chat interactions, it'll be no different from watching tv or youtube videos of friends having fun.

>>21834031
>more charismatic
You mean autistic and loud.