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>>21770130*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
Hell yeah, I love bait OP.
actual previous thread: >>21770122
>>21770258Seethe
>>21770130>YOUTUBE GOLD PLAY BUTTON1) Gawr Gura - 3,900,0002) Kizuna Ai Main - 3,090,0003) Mori Calliope - 2,010,0004) Usada Pekora - 1,900,0005) Shirakami Fubuki - 1,870,0006) Houshou Marine - 1,870,0007) Inugami Korone - 1,790,0008) Hololive Official - 1,690,0009) Watson Amelia - 1,640,00010) Minato Aqua - 1,570,00011) Kizuna Ai Games - 1,510,00012) Shirogane Noel - 1,460,00013) Kiryu Coco - 1,440,00014) Sakura Miko - 1,420,00015) Hoshimachi Suisei - 1,410,00016) Ninomae Ina'nis - 1,380,00017) Nimu Spacecat - 1,370,00018) Akai Haato - 1,350,00019) Takanashi Kiara - 1,350,00020) Nekomata Okayu - 1,350,00021) Oozora Subaru - 1,290,00022) Nakiri Ayame - 1,250,00023) Kuzuha - 1,240,00024) Natsuiro Matsuri - 1,230,00025) Tsunomaki Watame - 1,200,00026) Amane Kanata - 1,170,00027) Kson - 1,150,00028) Shishiro Botan - 1,120,00029) Moona Hoshinova - 1,040,00030) Kureiji Ollie - 1,020,000>31) Tokoyami Towa - 1,000,000 *New entry*>GOLD PLAY BUTTON BY BRANCH19x: Hololive JP5x: Hololive EN2x: Hololive ID1x: Nijisanji JP0x: Nijisanji EN0x: Nijisanji ID0x: Nijisanji KR2x: Kizuna Ai Inc.2x: Independent>GOLD PLAY BUTTON PER COMPANY26x: Hololive1x: Nijisanji2x: Kizuna Ai Inc.2x: Independent
>>21770130Yesterday's superchats
>>21770130There is going to be a Niji doujin event and it looks like there are plenty of participants.https://nijisanji.familiar-life.info/https://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=nijisanji06Also did a quick look and there are some nijiEN entries.https://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=nijisanji06&circle_id=fdf57006101837867c337c8da2ba013ahttps://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=nijisanji06&circle_id=70f53a05dfe372ad38ad18d6659d6b6ehttps://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=nijisanji06&circle_id=eafa4f7a1e3caaf42664ab11e055fc33https://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=nijisanji06&circle_id=c6b27abcdcb32b2de0f397c83310486ahttps://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=nijisanji06&circle_id=e2dc181550150d4acdf7b280d9944f41https://checklist.familiar-life.info/?e=nijisanji06&circle_id=94b603a0f3054ab58da84b69f7a6a709
don't recycle the bait thread you morons let it die
>>21770130PREVIOUS THREAD >>21770122
>>21770130actual previous thread: >>21770122>>21770122>>21770122
Didn't reach 80k... I am fucking disappointed. It didn't even beat Coco's 3D reveal.
>>21781022It's massaging her already big ego
>>21770130now this is a fitting op.
3 ER stream in this slot change..
>>21781029She's using the mori name. They absolutely could. Though cover is probably okay with the deal since they doesn't have to deal with overseas productions/distributions if those were handled by UMG instead.
Whats the point of IRyS again?
>>21781277uhm, everyone is asleep, hello?
>>21781140Only way they can stop her is terminating her contract. Which they aren't going to do obviously since they get money out of this and don't fuck their image.
>>21781091You realize the like doesn't update anymore on poi after the VOD get archived, right ?
So less streams from mori huh like january kuzuha
Wonder how Kronii feels now that a person she looked up to sold out lolKronii is so adamant to make it without the Hololive name
>CATCHES YOUR FUNNELNOTHING PERSONEL, SHINIGAMI!
>>21781022>Comparing Victor Entertainment signing some no-name and probably throwing a bunch of really shitty cutsvs>Most subscribed music Hololive member signing to UMG, when Hololive is far more well known and has much better bargaining powerIt's night and day anon, the circumstances are far far far different. I'm guessing Cover is going to try and leverage this to improve their own contacts as well as other benefits too, otherwise I can't see why they'd be okay with giving up a portion of the cuts to a 3rd party like this.
21 jst overlap is pretty brutal...
>>21781277Dude theres more than enough news to make up for it
>>21781344failed attempt by cover and producer omegay to get a Mori they can control
>three ER streamsgood thing koyo got her 10k earlier, she's gonna get murdered
>>21781277I mean, it's playing when more than half of N.America is asleep and Europe are at work. Her audience for the concert are SEA, Aussies and curious Japanese.
>>21781455Nousagi bailed immediately
>Got to debut in 3D>Promoted Holostars to over 60k (500k with cull)>Dropped ANOTHER collab song with Suisei>Dropped one of the biggest announcements ever out of a Hololive member, possibly the biggest outside of coco graduation/rushia terminationIs it time we kneel to Mori?
>>21781530believe in the dog
reimu and all nijien girls, if you girls are /here/ time to prep for EN 4
>>21781441>Kronii is so adamant to make it without the Hololive nameshe's barely even relevant outside her kronii persona she should be grateful she got to be kronii in the first place
don't recycle bait threads retards>>21781350
>>21781472I just hope those faggots or cover let sora go already. They cant do sora's voice justice.
>>21781481Seriously you guys are happy about this? Deadbeats, you should know that she going to stream less from now on right?
>>21781594>ACCELERATEACCELERATE
>>21781472>Cover>bargaining powerKek
>>21781606NO
>>21781344Realistically speaking will Irys get a contract like this even if it takes years?
>>21781614unofficial vsinger tier
>>21781018>Niji signs to labelRORU RUMAO Niji is desperate for money>Holo signs to labelHOLY SHIT, THIS IS A BIG DEALHOLOS INCLININGHolofags gotta be faggots I guess
>>21781614what's the downside?
>>21781568>139Chumpedobro...
No bait, but compared to other big EN groups, I feel like HoloEN stands on a league of their own at league with Myth. Their aura feels like actual celebs instead of just vtubers.
What's the capacity of this venue?
>>21781614>going to stream less from now onsounds good to me. i aint a deadbeat tho
NijiEN have to step up in their relevancy especial their first wave Myth and Mori are flying sky high
Capsule 1M prediction?
https://twitter.com/calliope_info/status/1510950664381210624
>>21781606but i like this image, the dog is cute
>Couldn't even get 80kMeanwhile Suisei got 147k
Huh the collab song with Suisei is already under Universal. So Suisei is signed under two different labels?
>>21781684this thread can't even hide lol
>>21781684>Holofags gotta be faggots I guesshey now, don't lump deadbeats in with the rest of us.
>>21781701no shit they're at the peak of EN vtubing and by vtubing I mean everything that comes along with it not just viewer count
>>21781723Less than usual since Cali will be there physically
>>21781723It's the same place as Suisei's first Sololive.
>>21781723the same as sora sololive? or watame? i forgot but around 3k
>>21781684
>>21781645Assuming Cover gets their shit together and start managing her properly, yes. But I don't expect that anytime soon.
>>21781684Because holo signed their biggest "vsinger" while anykara just peddled their chuuba to record labels just cause they were popular when they cant sing for shit
>>21781772No you fucking retard. She's just a featuring singer on Mori's song.
>>21781731Can't do that without 3D. They need to wait for about 2 years in order for them to properly compete with Hololive.
>>21781723it's the top result on google anon. don't be lazy
>>21781684did you even read the thread, half the people there are questioning it
>>21781772Do you not know how collaborations work?
>>21781736If Suisei promotes it too, I’m thinking 1M in 1-2 days. Mori’s songs are not Gura tier fast but this is a promoted song to over 70k+ people with a giant JP star as well as the fact that Mori’s no slouch either
>>21781723Mori live with holostar doryaaa
>>217817233k
>>21770130https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
Can nijien males sign with major music label if they keep sucking each other's cocks?
>>21781684Unlike most Holo fans I'm zagging while they're zigging, this is a terrible move. Mori will get less money with probably even less fame. This must be an edo thing.
>3D Live auto-directed to the song premiereNice
>>21781876>peddled because they are popular but can't singSounds like the same as Mori. What your point?
>40k waiting with 2 minutes to gouhhh guys, that’s a lot of people
>>21781731NijiEN is miles away from myth they could only dream of touching their feet
>>21781876>just cause they were popular when they cant sing for shitThis 8s literally what Holo did though
>>21781772No, Suisei is playing it smart. She has songs with different labels because they're only a collab songs, meaning she is only there temporarily as a guest to someone who signed with the label itself like Calli and Inoue Taku. She gets advertised by them whenever the collab songs are mentioned but aside from those instances all music she's making are still hers.
>>21781958>40k waiting
Is Mori the first EN vtuber to sign with a label or are there more?Either way I don’t think Mori ever cared for the money she made off music since she gets flooded with SC and merch revenue.
>>21781854Watame's is Tokyo Zepp, which unfortunately got demolished recently.
is "can [NijiEN member] get X if they Y" during holo events the worst posts on these threadsdiscuss
>>21781723A music venue with capacity for around 3,000 people.
so where is the third announcement that kiara promised?
I'm automatically sent to Mori's premier. Is that the raid feature that YT is implementing?
>>21782036youtube actually has a raid function but it only works on your own channel, perfect for this
I am really disappointed with today's gold.
https://twitter.com/calliope_info/status/1510950664381210624Seems Mori is signed with UMG EMI Records.
So, Mori is the first ever ENvtuber to hold a live concert with paying customers at a concert hall.All of this HoloEN reclining baits sound kinda stupid now huh?
>>21781419Cope
>>21782056Suzy wanted custody of her model. Suzy is smart as fuck when dealing with contracts. She is terrible on song budgets though.
>>21781962You won't be laughing when she releases a song with Eminem............or Kuzuha, lamo
Jesas
>>21781614They are cuckbeats after all.
>>21782064She used the redirect feature. I got dropped into it immediately after she ended.
>>21781627You'd be surprised with all those sponsorships and collabs that's coming around to Cover. Their influence will only get bigger now with Mori signed.
>>21781472Behemoths like UMG doesn't give a shit if you have 10+ million subscribers anon YT anon, even big name celebs doesn't get better cuts unless their albums can sell by the millions.The benefit of signing with a huge ass label like this is massive advertisement and collaboration opportunities, cover probably thought they can reach new potential audience with Mori's musical prowess better with the help of UMG and hope some of that translates to viewers for the Holo box, and UMG is definitely aware of this as well. Cover/Mori is absolutely getting miniscule cuts and they are retarded because they think its a good deal and will only be let down when they realize that Mori's song doesn't appeal to normies.
>>21782122no, channel owners can redirect their streams to a new stream of their own channel since a long time
>Universal makes Mori an international superstar >Signs more holos >Holo has a whole explodes >Universal adds Hololive land to their theme parks CALLING IT NOW SCREENSHOT THIS
>>21782193Is that good?
>>21782190I would be in stiches at either proposition.
>Sora : Victor Entertainment>Suisei : Toy's Factory>Mori : UniversalWho's next?
>>21781772>taku inoue and suisei unit under VIA>Mori calliope SOLO under UMG, and the collab song is just featuring suisei.
>>21782071>>21782170Yes
>>21782250>holos move to movies next
>>21782263This is like, The First Take numbers for premiere.
>>2177013040k in waiting room to 30k watchinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
>>21782240If Cover doesn't have to compensate Universal over failed albums then I don't see the problem for them here, even if it fails it doesn't cost them anything.
>>21781684Most anon are questioning itShe went with the deal as MoriAt least Suisei is still indie and only signed to a label as a unit with Inotaku
>>21781876Mori can sing? Since when?
It's over
Vox and mysta need 2 sign to the FANZA label.
Cover are starting to make the same mistakes Ichikara did that led to their decline
>>21782240'Shrug'Cover's aspirations have always been global, so that doesn't surprise me in the least. I think money from music isn't as big of a deal in their minds compared to the increased Reach and becoming 'Legit' in the eyes of the wider world.
>>21782174>Likes matteringWe know EOP are all 30s tourist who open a stream, leave a like then close stream
>>21782250>>21782331I'm actually interested at how they'll deal with vtuber graduations in any form because as we all know, vtuber lives are very short, even the oldest vtuber Kizuna Ai only lasted 5 years before calling it quits.
>>21782090see the pic in the op, Nijiniggers are like taht little brother who will "totally beat you up once he becomes older than you", except a hundred times more annoying because you can't just backhand the cheeky little fuck
Kek
Indies CAN inclineDon't give up, 2views!
>>21782295>Suisei : Toy's FactoryHuh? Since when?
Q 24K ccv 1M 19 hrs 10M 51D
>>21782503Now this is some comedy
weschizo, just stop
>>21782543Since four days ago https://www.toysfactory.co.jp/artist/midnightgrandorchestra
>>21782503MV is still running, this is the new function that automaticaly bans nijinippels.
>>21782295Gura - Disney
>>21782071Getting a deal with Universal is a big boost for ego I think
>>21782503This is what happens when you sign with label company.
>>21782331Live action Hololive.Kevin Hart as MoriDanny Devito as GuraRyan Gosling as AmeWill Smith as KiaraThe Rock as Ina.
>>21782503Rusbro...
>>21782503Wow, not even a day and label thing feels like a mistake.
>>21782503holy kek
>>21781685She's getting more corporate not less. A plaything passed around between the executives who like bbw. But cuckbeats also like that so maybe it's a win?
>>21782503Yea, this is going to bite them in the ass hard.
>>21781772Nah Susei is too smart to not signed under any labels, even Hololive doesn't own her.
>>21782374Yeah, that's probably why they green light this. It's no secret that they aren't strapped for cash and cover doing expensive shit (potential revenue in this case) with low chances of success isn't exactly new either
>>21782503oh yeah, there's that too with major labels... region locking because of retarded physical distribution legacyand now because of dumb woke stuff
Im surprised pegors is getting this much numbers in this game.
>>21782503I'm fucking dying here
>>21782595NTA but sui said in a recent zatsu that she will stay indie, the toy factory affiliation is only for this project with inotaku
>>21782503Russianbro…
At this point does ccv really matters to mori? Is cover still a streamer group company?
>>21782503did you really just post a fake pic thinking people couldn't check it themselves?
>>21782647LELExposed....Ruskibro....
>>21782595That wasnt suisei. It was taku inoe
>>21782486Holo EN fags are utterly fucking obsessed with Nijisanji despite them being irrelevent because their chuubas can't compete with the big boys of Holo JP so they bully their little brother instead, it's pathetic
>>21782503massivekek
surely UMG is taking a sniff at the numbers shark?
>>21782774No, it could be real if he's a shitposting Ruski>>21782647
>>21782503>>21782647ivan...
>>21782762no, not reallyLike, let me put it this way, if hololive was a traditional idol company, this would usually be the point where the talent graduates to become an actual artist
>>21782240I don't know, kind of doubting that it's Cover decision to force her signing with UMG. Aside from Sora, which was signed back in the old days when Cover was still a chick company so the exposure is definitely needed, Cover so far didn't let the talents whose focus are in the musical department to sign with any record labels.More likely is that Mori is the one who wanted to sign with UMG, and after Cover calculated how much of a share are they getting from it and considering whether it will have any significant impact to the company or not, permitted her to do it.
>>21782753Yeah, she's still indie for solo songs.
>>21782409Exposure tag is a must.
>>21782798
>>21782503remember not to eat the ukranian food, vladimir!
>>21782762Yes. Unless her songs are Ed Sheeran tier. They need something to promote her songs.
Does this mean HoloEN is mainstream now? Or just Mori?
>>21781645they could. Provide her with a good producer that fits with her voice and she can be another star in the making. Her technique and power already rivals Azki.
>>21782762>Does ccv matterIt barely matters for anyone. But even if we just ignore cull completely for a moment>Most viewed Hololive channel that isn’t Hololive monthly>Is close friends with the 2nd most viewed channel monthly, Suisei>Mucisian being assisted by their company>Signed to universalYeah. I don’t think it matters at all at this point
Mfw my face when seeing all the nijicope
It's fine on my end tho...>>21782647Ruski bro...
>>21782696Only mori cause she is the one who signed
>>21782183>She is terrible on song budgets thoughYou mean she spent too much?
>>21782685I'm not a huge fan myself but more because I'm not a fan of huge corpos and how they do shit, I guess for deadbeats this is good since UMG signs Calliope Mori for a contract. This puts graduation rrats to death since she'll never graduate as long as she's still with that label, instead of signing on as her roommate.
>>21782753that's the smart move really. especially if you don't need the advance to fund major projects. gives you better leverage in the futureheck even not-azki got her other project crowd funded in a day. 17m yen for a 3man live.
>>21782941Like how enniggers quickly backtracking about their opinions on label? Kek
>>21782933HoloEN has been mainstream for a while now, in JP at least
>>21782878Cover stands to benefit the most out of this actually, because now they have access to UMG's global reach and advertising budget. Like, >>21782250 is obviously shitposting for kicks but it's actually not outside the realm of possibility
>>21782973Well true. Cover has no doubt done the numbers and decided that taking a smaller cut is worth the connections, and Mori seems fine with making a smaller cut of a larger pie.
>>21782753Yep, its a fun little technicality. Hoshimachi Suisei is not signed to Toy's Factory. Midnight Grand Orchestra is signed to Toy's Factory and she's a part of MGO. Anything she does as Hoshimachi Suisei is the same as before.
>>21782878It gains them far more exposure than they could do themselves I guess. Mori being one of the most popular vtuber artists along with actual ad campaigns, I’ll be interested to see their sales numbers.
>>21782855>this would usually be the point where the talent graduates to become an actual artistWould it? I admittedly only followed H!P and AKB before, so I might not be all that knowledgeable about the idol scene at large. However, over around 12-15 years of my wota life, I've seen most idols remained with the group for at least a few years even after signing with a label / agency
>>21783058
>>21782989It goes like this with Suisei>Manager tells her how much it will c-*Snaps fingers, DO ITShe basically doesn't even pay attention to costs and just approves it as soon as her manager confirms they can do it.
>>21783084That's a bit too much but now a duet with Kuzuha is possible, and I would love to see people reaction to that
>>21782762/#/ will still scrutinize her ccv mostly and I for one will continue to make fun of her if any of her streams underperform. But I'm just some random anon, for her personally? Yeah, ccv isn't meaningless but it's low on her list of priorities now
>>21783084That's assuming Mori gets pushed by UMG. You always hear about artists who get sidelined in favor of someone with more connections.
>>21783084what the fuck happened to my formating
>>21782855The difference is that "Mori Calliope" character is owned by Cover.
>>21783189She's fucking loaded then.
I find it funny that every time # thinks NijiEN is getting close to HoloEN, HoloEN suddenly pulls out shit like concerts and mainstream stuff.It's like Watamage is toying with NijiEN.
>>21783256yes, which is why I said if Cover was a traditional company
>>21782647Stop invading someone else's land, Ivan
>>21782753Smart suichan
Wait so EMI records is her label? That's like one of the biggest labels that there is in the world. There's no way if from what I read she's on the same label as Kuzuha, right?
>>21782762>Is cover still a streamer group company?>Cover a streamer company?>All that IP farming>just for streamsAnon...
>>21783037I agree. Streaming, digital sales / DDL, crowdfunding, big labels are irrelevant to music in $currentYear unless you want to sell pressed music in stores at a big scale.
>>21783372https://twitter.com/calliope_info/status/1510955267768619008
>>21783227Kotonechama...
>>21783372Kuzuha is under virigin music technically.
>>21782878Obviously, Mori wanted to be signed to get the prestige/advertisement/opportunities whatev. And cover allowed her to considering the points in my post, where I feel they shouldn't have.
>>21783261It's likely that she both has a very large budget and that she's absolutely terrible at budgeting. Wasn't it Mio who predicted that Suisei would end up using up a lot of money this year, but that she'd be alright and enjoy it anyways......?
>>21783408And do big tours, don't forget that bit.
>>21782989In a way yes, Suisei has mostly footed the bill by herself most of the time I guess. She has mentioned of something like a fund for all the activities and most of her earnings goes back inside. Why foot the bill herself you say? Maybe because she's lazy to wait for cover's approval or doesn't want cover to have a hand in her own projects
>>21783432
HoloKR cover corp x big hit entertainment soon
>>21783394Cover is becoming smarter by taking advantage of their IP. They are learning from these big companies.
>>21783502True!
>>21783498>Wasn't it Mio who predicted that Suisei would end up using up a lot of money this year, but that she'd be alright and enjoy it anyways......?anon, she was talking about gacha
>>21783471Oh, so she's not under the same label as Kuzuha then? She's under a vastly more popular and global targeted label? Holy shit she must have made bank with her contract.
>>21783471Which one is bigger/better?
>>21783537I wonder if they actually are planning that. Cover is not merely a streaming company anymore.
https://iconcollective.edu/independent-artist-vs-signed-artist/#:~:text=Limited%20creative%20control%3A%20Signing%20with,artwork%2C%20messaging%2C%20and%20more.I don't see any benefit for Mori Signing for UMG doesn't solve the inherent problem of being a Vtuber and having a niche audience
>>21783498>Suisei would end up using up a lot of money this year, but that she'd be alright and enjoy it anywaysIt's gacha>>21783505No. Cover has a budget for original song production but if you went over you have to pay it yourself. This is the case with Suisei. But yeah she want a total creative control for her music.
>>21782753I dream the day of this blue woman going to kohaku as an indie
>>21783662I know the answer to that but I won't tell since you're a fucking tribal faggot.>>21783683They were a tech company that broke into multimedia. They were music well before streaming.
>>21783607Shush, let me craft my rrat in peace (I know it's about gacha, but wouldn't it be funny if.....)
How does ENschizo cope?HoloEN is mainstream now
>>21783662Its the same thing, virgin record/EMI
>>21783487Eh try to think from another perspective, it's possible that Cover allowed her to sign with them even AFTER considering the possibility of it flopping. The one who will be hurt the most if it does flop is Mori herself anyway, and Cover still has a lot of music focused holos (Suisei, primarily) to net them those sweet EPs money. Basically I'm saying that Cover doesn't really care if it does flop, and if it's a success then more power to them.
>>21783189>>21783505I think it's fine as long as she can earned more than the cost? Besides , from an example like her adding more budget for Je'taime by adding live brass makes the song sounds better
>last samurais so mad that Mori is now mainstream big time while their JP oshis are still nobodiesYou love to see it
>>21782762Unironically Pekora is the only Holo in this whole company care about it but ONLY because biggest streamer award use it as part of their ranking
>>21782762No, they are literally becoming a multimedia franchise corpo.
>>21783662obviously EMI
Should have waited for a few more hours to discuss the benefit of this label, too much hype and tribal fag rn. See you guys in the daily tally time.
Since Mori will get daily gold and EN gold, is there a point for EN gold today?
>>21783754Benefits 2,3, and 4 are what Cover and Mori want. Budget probably isn't an issue at this point for Mori.Con 2 doesn't seem to be something that matters, con 3 is also an issue but that ultimately depends on con 4, the contract that was signed. Con 1 also is dependent on the contract as if they like what Mori releases as Mori and they aren't giga-retarded, they won't slap in shackles that inhibit her freedom TOO much.
Someone is working overtime.
Wait, how the fuck Kuzuha is pulling almost 30k with FIFA?>it's a big collabI will always get impressed with how much these buff him
>>21783933try harder nijinigger
>>21783839>HoloEN is mainstream now>The likes of Council>mainstream Calm yourself, it's just Calli
Costs>huge ass cut to your music revenues>some risk that the record label people are uncooperative or doesn't work well with you, exhausting needless time and resourcesGains>small chance that someone relevant on the label likes your stuff and pushes you hard (advertisement, collabs with bigger names, etc)>even smaller chance that the demographic from the resulting reach will like your stuff and follow your other shitWould you take it, /#/?
>>21784096Japan qualified for the World Cup so soccer games are buffed all around
>>21784112Councilschizo don't you have hlgg to be shitting up right now
NippleEN status?
>>21783754Seeing how this is done through Cover as a intermediary, I believe cons 1 and 4 won't be much of a limitation? Also the advertising and connections definitely does help to a certain extent
It's funny every time I go to # and see people here try to downplay HoloEN's achievements. It's almost an obsession to make them look weak at this point.
>>21784129There's also the risk of restricted creative freedomThe label has the final say for the product they will release no?
>>21784199Mori Wont sell 40k
I think I need images with more hooks
>>21784129In this case there's a 3rd gain that, as an individual, I wouldn't be able to gauge, but Cover does>Gain access to contacts and ties with a well known global label to potentially push your own stuff down the lineThat point I think potentially outweighs the costs alone, given Cover's aspirations to hit the global market.
>>21784129It depends on whether you can produce your own music as an indie although I personally think that Mori did it for the prestige.
>>21782753she stays indie but she gets the benefits of being with a major label
>>21767021>first EN 3D>signed to major music label>cant break 100kEN is reclining
>>21783662Virgin Records revenue: $84.91 millionEMI Records revenue: $1.8 billion
>>21784129No. It's an awful deal when you frame it with such hyperbole. >>21784332>Mori did it for the prestigeThat's the only way I can frame it.She must be loaded already, no way she'd accept this without already being loaded.
I know everyone is talking about universal right now but:https://youtu.be/M85xU-tbQ6cAlready about to hit 100k in 30 minutes while it hasn't even processed views fully yet..
>>21784009>Guest in every concert>Even had her Solo to deal withSuisei working
>>21784354kys
>>21784295Yeah and that too, but for Mori's case restricting her creative freedom is probably a plus at this point imo
>>21784379Virgin is under emi
>>21782941why are you shitting on niji with a selen pic?
>>21784379So kuzuha got the shitty one? Got it
>>21784409I kneel.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>I CAN’T SNEEDHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>21784390It just hit 100k.
>>21784199Nipples twisted.
>>21784457
>>21784413That just reinforces the point no? It's like being signed to a sub-league vs signed to the big house.
>>21784457nice find
>>21784457>Nov 28Grudgechad, I kneel
>>21784457KEK
>>21784409Plus Vtuber Fes is coming up soon too
>>21784411Kek true. Now she has access to people who can make better music than her.
>>21784164>soccer
>>21784457based grudgechad
>>21784390Do we have a challenger for Reflect?
>>21784457Bro. Did you save this just for the day something like this would happen, or did you remember something to grudgepost with? Either way, bravo.
>>21784268Lmao you're not fooling anyone nipplenigger, we're celebrating here
>>21784457BASED GRUDGEPOSTER
>>21782036>>21782128Suisei only got 20-something k out of her 140k audience. Pretty sure Template took more than an hour to reach 100k: >>21784487
>>21784096time to play fifa and become pessi. think of the numbers pekora...
>>21784457That's a nice grudgepost.
>>21784129If I'm in her position and primarily think of my wallet? Hell fucking no. She most likely is signing it for vestige though, can't really relate since I'm not someone big and never had the experience of becoming famous.Small curiosity here, but does her side-gig as DD usually pay much? Since now as Mori she's signed to the label she won't be able to expect much cash flowing from her music anymore.
>>21784096holy based. i'll actually watch him this time. thanks.
>>21784597She did not use that function.
>>21784457dangerously grudged
>>21784506So mori joined the major league while kuzuha joined the triple a league
>>21784520Suisei is in there? I thought it was azki sora matuli
>>21784457I KNEEL GRUDGEPOSTER-SAMA!!!
Apparently Mori will have a stream tomorrow talking about her contract, should be a good watch.
>>21784571Honestly might, this is very fast. That massive algo-boost from having 40k+ dumped in very well could put it to #1 to 1mil for Hololive.
>>21784457Delicious
>>217846362 days
>>21784607(me)Why the fuck is it autocorrecting prestige to vestige
>>21783394I can't believe Pokemon beats Star Wars...
>>21784457Based Grudge Poster
does the algorithm push UMG music differently?
>>21784571This shit is gaining views so fast. I don't want to say just yet but this is actually on record alert right now. And this is Mori fucking Calliope, who's got an enormous JP and EN fandom. It's not like Kuzuha's Vampire shit where 99% of his fans went to bed after a few hours. People are still gonna be listening to this come the next hours.This might legitimately beat Reflect if it keeps up this pace even remotely
>>21782647ruskie...
>>21784387>No. It's an awful deal when you frame it with such hyperbole. To the contrary, I think they're getting a fair deal here on hindsight. People here are downplaying Mori's music too much. Even if they're shit and unpalatable to the general audience, a label as large as universal could probably still find a decently large audience to be funneled back to the Holo box.
>>21784600I can't believe pessiposter posts here too.
>>21784607Per her own words, she was getting to the point where she would have been able to afford to not do her "scythe-swinging lessons (code for her JET job)" and live off her music alone. Of course that probably included patreon too which she isn't using to my knowledge. Point being, money isn't on her mind anymore, and it isn't as though she gets NO profit from this deal. It's definitely more for prestige (and for Cover, connections) than cash.
>>21784457BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>21784636That's day 1, Suisei is in day 2
>>21784457This feels like years of bad karma being piled up by nijikeks and released suddenly by watamage
>>21784636
>>21784746plenty of nousagi are both numberfags and pessiposters.
> power went out for the entire duration of Calli's concertwelp70k is about most people here expected. And that was WITHOUT overlaps.>>21781022The thing with labels are that it varies based on contract, which tend to be LONG durations (3-5 years).Sora was a small time girl and Cover was a low tier company when she signed on, and they very likely got a the benefit of exposure for a lot of her songs.But once Holo got big on their own, they couldn't include her stuff inside the BOX to benefit from it.Cover is currently a somewhat experienced company with the good aspects of both JP and EN work cultures, so I'm guessing that the contract terms are far more favorable to them this time around.And well... this pretty much kills all rrats about Calli's """upcoming graduation""".
>>21784630Compare their music output prior to signing to a Label and you can see why. Like her music or not, Cover has the metrics and so does Mori, and they can point to Universal that "Hey, we're in this to reach a larger market, we're already successful here, hows about we strike a deal?" whereas Kuzuha, as popular as he is, is more of a fujobait magnet with how they handled his album release (lottery ticket stuff, etc).
>>21783910Yeah that's fair
>>21784457Based
>>21785003Most of the Nijis were more popular as streamers than musicians when they were signed weren’t they?
>>21784988pulling the plug was the best outcome for you anon, smart move anon.
>>21784988>And well... this pretty much kills all rrats about Calli's """upcoming graduation""".It must be a very rainy day in Jakarta right now.
>>21785003Not like mori is going to beat kuzuha without the fujobait, mind you that the 39k are only physical sales
>>21785087himawari...
>22k Portal stream last week.>27k There is no game stream despite fighting against 4 elden ring stream now.Anyone knows what's going on with Pekora and why she is regaining her momentum in viewers lately? Was her april fools stuff giving her buff?
>>21784909>Gokisei full lineupGen5 schizo don't look!
>>21785151Mori is now on HonmaHima's level. Congrats, I guess.
>>21785153>regaining her momentum...did she lost it? her march was great
>>21784457Based grudgeposter
>>21785148Anon, Kuzuha is only going to get releases Japan. Mori is going to get releases all over the fucking world.
>>21785153If you are gonna be like that, her 35k Minecraft overlapping with other +30k streams was more impressive. Yeah yeah, MC is a buff for the rabbit but 22k portal seems average
>>21785153Anon, I hate to break it to you but Portal is pretty neutral as a streaming game while TING is pretty good as a streaming game, assuming you're not out of it (like Gura was when she was playing it, she was not enjoying it and it really affected how the numbers did for it).
When will Vox sign with JAV?We can't let HoloEN get everything
>>21785148lol
>>2178515327k peak, she's already bleeding the fuck out of viewers right now. She's about to drop down to 23k soon.The problem is something we've talked here a lot about. She has great peaks and a really high floor, but she sits closer at her floor (20-22k) than she does her peak in recent time. And this is kind of indisputable when you see that her vod views are the lowest they've ever been, her hours watched is lower and has more people on ass now, and the issue with her viewership not gaining large amounts of momentum.But MC arc will be starting again soon and that's huge for Pekora. That might be what's needed to bring her back to "top form"
>>21784909Holy shit, Siro's still alive?
>>21784457nijisisters???
>>21785357Dlsite ASMR debut
>>21785235>less than 2 million watch time>less than 30k avg cc>goodMarch was probably Peko's worst month in a 6+ months anon
>>21785357he should sign with ccp and become their taiwan invasion mascot
>>21785357WIll it be Nipple torture JAV?
>>21785357Nijisanji already have a nipple av coming up so,
>>21785452Would DLSite really want to work with Nijisanji again after their last kerfuffle though?
>>21785420Yes she often appears on vtuber concerts.
4 fucking elden ring streams
>>21785544they just tacked on the title though, it's just a low effort pr move
>>21785153>still bringing up that portal streamholy shit
>>21785496Tell me you don't track her numbers without telling me you don't track her numbers.
>>21785417NTA but I fucking hope it will also save Haachama. I might just go full schizo if somehow only the number rabbit and the duck are getting good numbers while the catalyst for the new arc which is Haachama is left behind in the gutter.
>>21785420Not only that, .Live is pushing its own concert
>>21785181Not the gen 5 schizo but you can't believe this means anything when Mori just got signed to Universal before any JP holo. You have shitters in that same show and gen 5 aren't exactly out of place standing with them.
>>21785724>not the gen5 schizosure bud
>>21785703Let's hope the rabbit number magic works its wonders for haachama
>>21785417come now anon. At least go into why her watch hours and total views are lower.Let's see if you actually have any insight in the subject.
Anyone here that honestly believe Mori's contract with UMG is anything but disastrous is forgetting the fact that now twitter woketards have someone they can call to when Mori or her antis does dumb shit again
>>21784379KING lost to a fucking wigger? I have to retract my knees.
>>21785417The game being too boring and frustrating to look at probably factored the viewer bleed. Since she didnt went sub 30k yesterday in her minecraft stream despite going for 2 hours. Also she really needs to start her long weekend streams again if she wants to grind her hours. But she keeps waiting for "that game" she have been begging perms of.The only game that would justify her months of not doing weekend stream at this point would be Metal Gear Rising.
>>21785703The one positive right now is that Haachama is pushing for MC revival plenty and she's constantly in the faces of these people so she's an actual presence that people can't just ignore.... yet. But you already know with an MC revival comes Miko, Botan, Lamy etc. And they're all so much more popular than Haachama right now. It's going to be difficult making ground with big names in front of you
>>21785420She has like 2k median CCV, she's not that bad off, why would she be dead.
>>21785829I just run all the calculations and my conclusion is natural decline.
>>21785654I'm out of loop anon, did some schizo brought it up or something? I just use the portal stream as reference since it is the most recent and analogous game to what she is streaming atm.
>>21785724no one wants to get signed, just look at suisei
>>21785850>UMGDude, the level of yabs they deal with is not anything some sea monkey can cook up with his discord buddies.
https://twitter.com/DoKomi/status/1510965423134625797
>>21785908I don't know man, I thought a lot of the dinosaurs from the old days died off from the early days. When Kaguya Luna died I gave up on vtubers until Hololive when I saw that clip of haachama barfing.
>>21785087It's like Akina, Kaede or Hima. Signing to a label is worthless for them since they all can't sing or experience/training as a singer. Calli/Suisei pumped OGs like ever 2-3 month and both of them has EPs/Albums before getting signed.
>>21785908Wasn't there an idolbu who have higher median than Siro?
>>21784571Maybe, or maybe it's just using the front loaded hype of dumping the live viewers into it. Mori got like 500k I in eday with unalive before it fell off, no?
>>21786081That’s kinda what I was getting at. Mori was known for her music before getting signed while a lot of Niji talents were more known for being popular streamers.
>>21785935come now anon, no need to admit that you are retarded to the class.
>>21785850Do you honestly think EMI fucking records gives a shit? That's the label that had Queen for fuck's sake.
>>21785850Have you seen the shit kanye and snoop does? Unless you have cp or is a pedo, everything is a nothingburger to them.
>>21786163I wouldn't compare that. As somebody who is a fan of Mori and loves her new album, UnAlive is one of the weaker tracks she ever put out. Its just kind of blah as a song. A true banger wouldn't have slowed down that much. People just didn't loop it since its not that good.
>>21786163Yea, it'll ultimately depend on if the EN fanbase does their reps and how JP does their reps when they wake up. Reflect was dropped at an awkward time for NA, but it allowed JP to get a full evening's worth of time to get the views up.
>>21786142Guys, does Suisex sign with MUG too?
>>21785618Flare getting absolutely destroyedwhat a waste all she has to do is avoid everybody like Noel did and could easily get 20k
>>21784129I still don't get why she didn't do it as her roomate, I guess she needs sui buff
>>21786040Spoiling Kiara big surprise kek
>>21786302I keep telling people in this thread, but Flare and her strategy of attacking primetime after getting an audience who watches her in latetime is dumb as fuck.
>>21786135Maybe when Idolbu was still alive. Also she has a little less than 2k median, my bad, it was not the median but the mean.
>>21783284># thinksIt's just shitposters and delusional nijifags. Making coombait streams to milk fujos for cash doesn't get you big deals and sponsorships.
>>21786343>I still don't get why she didn't do it as her roomateShe's doing it the other way around anon>her Cover shared income gets the label cut>her own stuff as her roommate benefits from the exposure and she gets all the proceeds for herself
>>21786289Eh, idk. This has the momentary hypw but Q was way bigger in everything, including having an MV. I don't see it beating reflect, shit I don't even think Gura can beat Reflect
zeta is basically holoKR right now
>Menhera Rushia gets axed>The entirety of Gen 3 starts to overlap everyoneReally makes you think
>>21786040&IRyS!
>>21786302>Noel is a Knight>Flare is an Elf>Knight got buff by elden ringCase closed
CapSule no chance of beating Reflect to 1 million. Has a slight chance to beat Q though.
>>21786487The rule was that they wouldn't start at the same time unless force, i.e. sponsorship streams.But they might have let that go as well.
>>21786040go irys go!
>>21786549Well holy fuck, HoloEN is winning when it comes to branching out of the vtuber space.
>>21786487It's not even gen 3, it has been Flare who has been forcefully overlapping lately. Pekora and Marine are coordinating and are still avoiding overlaps. I think I remember some instance where Pekora even tried to move her stream when Flare went to her schedule. La Negra elf is going rogue.
>>21786459I dont watch her, does she pander to them?
>>21786004You literally have no idea, its not much work to share around her 'skeletons' when Mori is on a spotlight or under heavy critique
>>21786610CapSule is a good songReflect is not
>>21786040Voxsisters, why is a 2k ccv liver getting our sponsorships?
>>21786610It'll beat bad bitter and contrail though
>>21786682She can speak Kr, and that's good enough for them.
>>21786645winning compared to whom?
>>21785829Sorry I was typing out a thing for you but my power went out and I’m on my phone now. I can’t get you all of it without taking a while typing shit out again so just bear with a small version of it without actual details. Basically, a lot of Hololive members inclined and have both intruded on her usual timeslots (notably the noon streams in the weekend) and have been more on top of streaming entertaining things. The issue with the inclines for Pekora is that they’re becoming established fans of theirs, and what that entails is that there’s a lack of viewers to pick up around the area. You simply can’t grab what isn’t there. Also, the members seemed to have had enough of Pekora’s shit. Ok, I don’t mean that they hate her or any of the that, but Pekora’s notorious for “stealing” viewership by streaming before and after events and talents not even wanting to compete with that. If a giant event ends, who are people going to go to? Pekora or Kanata? You get what I mean? But with these giant inclines of other talents and people like Koyori for instance establishing her own fanbase, Pekora is starting to get swarmed in her usual timeslots so the pressure is on mightily in recent time. Other than that, it’s just weak playthroughs like Sekiro that don’t have people interested. Last time it was ARK and everyone fucking hated it, to a point where she was dishing out some of her worst VODs in months. That’s sort of my theory on things
>>21786691Numbers?
>>21786709I think the concert lottery really helped the sales of his album.
>>21786459Holy fuck, more than 80% from the won and the next highest is the British pound sterling of all things. WON KRW 36 815806 82,245円 £ GBP 2 53.98 8,678円 YEN YEN 8 3120 3,120円 PHP PHP 6 1025.00 2,446円 $ USD 3 14.97 1,836円 HK$ HKD 3 70.00 1,095円 SGD SGD 3 12.00 1,084円 MYR MYR 5 33.90 985円 EUR EUR 1 5.00 674円 NT$ TWD 1 70.00 299円---- ---- ---- ---- 102,462円
>>21786709Yup, this is the difference between Kuzuha and Mori. Kuzuha's originals have shit numbers while Mori have great numbers
Reminder that nijiid is such a failure they're not invited to the biggest SEA animecon this year
>>21786487The entire coverage thing and monitoring overlaps was just so Rushia wouldn't have a Rushia moment. It's been a free for all since then. >>21786683What level of SEA are you? UMG deals with artists strangling prostitutes, saying the no no word as a cringelord 20 something does not register. They might like the publicity if nothing else.
>>21786691Anon, whether a song is good or not doesn't matter for numbers. Look at Unison for instance (and then look how it completely nosedived after a few weeks)
It's been a long time since I saw Roboco this low. Is this a shill stream?
>Zeta 4k at SC reading
Holo ES when?
>>21786818Even Moona got invited by a singapore anime fest last year i think. Someone also cosplayed as pekora at that time and I was cringing.
>>21786743Every other entuber
>>21786709I'll never understand this. Kuzuha's cover songs do pretty well numbers wise but his fans just refuse to listen to his originals and they just trudge along so very slowly.
>>21786818>nijiidThat doesn't exist anymore.
>>21786818I mean, NijiID doesn’t even exist anymore anon. Why would they get invited?
>>21786943You're right, niji didn't get invited at all
>>21786840Saying the n-word x decades ago as a white person is unironically more career killing than strangling random prostitutes in today's western culture anon
>>21786897Su...sugoi...So...this is the power of first ever non JP GFE...
>>21786818Anon...
>>21786883
>>21786883yes... where have you been? they got another week of this
>>21786883>Is this a shill stream?Yeah.
>>21786683>its not much work to share around her 'skeletons' when Mori is on a spotlight or under heavy critiqueKEK, anon, plz. If Universal can get BTS uncancelled in China they can do anything
>>21786897Still losing to Kobo though.
It would be funny if Cover uses the exact strategy of Anykara and excels at it. But I think Cover is already winning
>>21786883yes, every single holo will play this shitso expect to see it everyday throughout the month
>>21786761Reminds me of kanata who used to make mii character of a holo right before that holo big event.
>>21787135anykara doesn't have a strategy
>>21787107>Universal can get BTS uncancelled in Chinaqrd? I'm not familiar with kpop scene btw
>>21787140This game probably gave Cover some massive money. Even Hologra was not spared.
>>21787135>It would be funny if Cover uses the exact strategy of Anykara and excels at it.What would that strategy be, anon?
>>21786761Maybe Pekora was right to take Mio’s advice of not relying on luck.
>>21787080Is Bomberman like really popular in SEA or something? Kinda odd game choice.
>>21787063You're ridiculous if you actually think that when it comes to the music industry and a label that literally has white people use nigger in their songs. Nothing Mori could do could constitute a "behavioral problem" unless she's knifing tramps and burying their corpses.
>>21787080Huh, so Holokeks are also lying.
>>21786883Yes
>>21786928A lot of cover songs seem to be flavor of the month. It’s easy to get views when your cover is popping up in playlists and results for anyone searching for the song.Originals are more difficult to get casual views since the only people looking for the song will be fans of the vtuber.
>>21781736Probably 5 days or 1 week. Song sounds like shit.
>>21787179It was not really Universal but the sheer power of kpop stan girls but that move surely coincided with this move by China
>>21786917https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCV5rrHaBNg>Dec 2020This was at the time where Moona Pekora arc happens and also ID2. >3.6k viewersThat's big for ID at the time when they're all 1k sub shitters.
>21787224>21787009>21786818All of these is from the same guy btw.
>>21787264That's pretty tasteless, putting a pic of your president above the TV.
>>21786928They already bought his original song or listen to it on iTunes/Spotify. Different case with cover song where the only place you can hear it is from the Youtube video.
>>21787264>kpop stans powerI will always be amazed with them. My sister is also one and I can't fathom how they can blast Kpop in public while we get ostracized for listening to anime songs.
>Those KRW in Zeta streamBaelz she stole your audience!!!
>>21785881She is in a content drought right now. Once again this is her weakness, her content are 100% games so when she can’t play the game she want she just can’t do anything else beside filler gameMio tell her to not rely on luck was good call because everything has been against her since the beginning of 2022
What do they mean>>21546311
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/vhX0pKm0Xio.html>That amount of gooks donations on Zeta'sOk, if gooks are willing to threw money to a Holo Indog, despite gooks see SEA as how Hittler saw jews, then there is more solid proof there is a market for Holo KR.
>>21787063Despite your addiction to doomposting, your haven't provided cases when Universal dropped their artists.
Another earthquake?
>>21787580>IDAT Base
>>21782250>UMG>parksAnon, learn about the subject you speak about before going full retard. Universal Studios and Universal Music Group are different entities that have little to do with each other. One is owned entirely by Comcast and the other is publicly traded with Tencent being a major shareholder.
>>21786709Ohnono nijisisters!
$55k last year to $35k this year sure is a big drop huh
>>21787560Did you forget about nijikr...
>>21786696That's a concert, not a flirting, kisses-throwing ASMR expo. Please understand
>>21787754Who ?
>>21786761She's not in her peak form (Nov 2021 will be hard to get back to).But I think your theory is pretty flawed and incorrect. The reason for the decline in both views and watch hours is the simple fact that she streamed less. If we compare march to march 2021 she streamed 33 hours less in march 2022. But march 2021 had better median and avg numbers then this, so let's compare to the month that matches up the most in both median for avg and median for peaks, that would be either October or December. She still streamed less compared to both those months by 26 and 14 hours respectively. That's her primary reason for having lower watch hours. Views are more tricky, I speculate here since I don't track them but I think it primarily has to do with the lack of interactions, i.e. were other holos come in contact with her. Minecraft arks etc. Ark could have been that, but after the initial subaru "war" in ark it never took off.Lets not forget, except for January(ccvid) her current medians is still better then her worst medians in 2021.
>>21786761>Other than that, it’s just weak playthroughsAll that made up shit when you could've just left it at that. Also don't bring up watch time without bringing up time streamed as well.
>>21787215meh there's a better bomber game these days
>>21787063They’ve failed to cancel Gura for being pedobait and Kiara (an Austrian dropout with a failed art career) for using a racial slur. Even Council managed to tank someone trying to get one of their heavy hitters #MeToo’d. HoloEN is pretty well insulated from that bullshit.
This will be Zeta's first sub-5k stream unless she gets some serious waiting room effect from Kobo.
>>21787809It ain’t a problem, no one can be at peak form foreverBut the thing is everyone can bounce back to peak after going down. Aqua Apex prove that it is possible, they just need the right content
>>21787512I'm kind of confused why she isn't using her utawaku card yet. Sure she is quite a bad singer and not "it's so bad it's good" territory like Noel so it's not exactly a good stream for her, but her utawaku is stupidly rare that the numbers might get pretty high solely from the rarity buff alone. Not saying she needs to do it every week, like even once a month should be enough.
>>21784457It's so fucking funny to me how nijiniggers will always be the laughing stock of this board.
>>21787713It's not even $55k last year, she also had a BD countdown last year of around $18k. So, she earned $73k from SCs alone. Her EP, Vinyl BD merch probably made the most for her. That's why it's kinda stupid to compare Vox to any of the Myth, maybe Ame. Mori's debut EP probably got her to Vox's 4 months SCs in just a week.
>>21787925wait who almost got metoo'd?barely registered on this anti board
>>21787925One of the benefits of being a walled garden.
>>21784688I'd be surprised if it DIDN'T. The Pokemon train has been going for fucking ever with no brakes.
>>21787224>this yearNijimonkeys Nijiniggers Nippleniggers NijiSEA whatever you call yourselves.
Since Hololive is full-on with Twitch, will a HoloKR stream mainly on Twitch? Their main audience is there.
>>21787941In all honesty I think she's deliberately slowing down but it could also be the game choices. I wouldn't be surprised if she streams less overall in this year compared to 2021.
>>21787960She hate her singing and she hate her own musicShe doesn’t even try to hide that fact. Alibi Bunny is literally only on Spotify and she never bothered shilling it more than the bare minimum. You just know she hate it when people remember her songs exist
>>21784487wtf 100k in 30 minutes? it's normally half of that
>>21787427Bae is already sharing with the ENbirds. If anything, this just proves there’s plenty of loaded gooks to go around.
>>21787206Yeah, this is one of those cases of “the well runs dry” in that the pool of viewers you thought you could grab is suddenly not there, because others have put in the effort to drive their careers forward. Pekora is still the top next to Marine in JP, no doubt, but some might say she rested on her laurels in recent time. When you’re at the top, it’s easy to find yourself coasting and basking in the status of today. But tomorrow comes, and the day following that, and when you’re not actively preparing for that, someone might come up behind you and do something that’s wildly more entertaining. But Pekora is still Pekora. It’s not like she’s some reclining midrange talent. She’s still the biggest star of JP for streaming and she’ll always have opportunities to incline right back. But stats across the board don’t lie either
>>21788128Probably, we just gotta wait on the HoloKR audition announcements. It still feels they're busy with something. HoloAlt animation is coming soon.
>>21788128you bet they will, they should debut on twich too
>>21786709To be fair, Kuzuha's songs are fucking garbage and not really catchy.
>>21786761Pekora overlapped Suisei's live and I saw zero backlashes.
>>21788209HoloAlt anime? Where did that come from?
>>21788157The power of algo. It's getting recommended left and right. The song is not that good though.
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1510976589668163587imagine StartEnd puts up a stream and Mori slips
>>21788015Mumei. It’s how that anti got outed as a furry.
>>21788289Anime and animation is different.
>>21788333metoo for what though?
>NijiEN not getting invitedoh no... Don't they have a swede, two UKs and FR speaker?
>>21788315Would be funny.
>>21788169Anon, Pekora was getting throat issues in December, a s she's probably been aware it was building up in November. This is why I'm concerned for Koyori, because we saw how hard Pekora could go, until she couldn't.
>>21784457based, grass and grudgepilled
>>21788169The fuck are you larping about. Pekora's been getting 30k the last few weeks. I'm not seeing any decline. She's pretty much inclining out of reach of every chuuba not named Marine or Kuzuha.
>>21788012>Mori's debut EP probably got her to Vox's 4 months SCs in just a weekDoubt it, even when not part of a label music sales really don't make all that much money
>>21788399isn't Nijimales basically NijiEU?
>>21788296Suisex buff
>>21788399Why would they even invite NijiENs? all of them are shit singers and can't perform live for shit.
>>21788315Either way Hololive wins. Mori has some pretty good lewds though.
>>21788399Does NijiEN even have fans in Europe?
>>21788296YouTube takes time to process views.Also, 100k in 30 minutes is not going to come from the algo.Those were people sent there from the bday live.
>>21785357>>21785452>>21785532>>21785544holy fuckhe really does live rent-free in your minds huh
>>21788399Their main audience is China so go figure
>>21788499NijiJP=NijiEN=HoloEN
>>21788399Sounds like they’re doing KFP themed food as well.
>>21788378Publicly defending a sex offender when she was a teenager. In other words, she probably got groomed then used as an attack dog, but when cancel culture gets going, they generally don’t care about the details.
>>21788551Not enough cunny. I prefer Kobo
>>21787894What the fuck is this coomer shit?What happen to the square head?Where's the soul?It's been 20 years since I last play bomberman games
>>21788513Pretty sure there's ba good amount of chinks in UK/FR/DE
>>21785850Anon, the music industry and movie industry at the big corpo level is major league yab. we ain't doing kiddie shit any more like he said she said unless you're literally hitler pedo pope unironically.
https://twitter.com/DoKomi/status/1510965488389693441
>>21788570HoloEN = Luxiem > Nijijp >> nijien
Whoever does Mori's videos needs a fucking proofreader.
>>21788686IRyS 3D soon?
>>21788726Nips
>>21788698No, I'm saying a win for HoloEN is a win for Nijisanji. Always root against HoloEN as doing so is for HoloJP's benifit.
>>21788624Sorry sir this is now a mesugaki franchise
>>21788797?
Is there a way to track socialbuzz donations?
So con season is about to start, and expect HoloEN to get invited to a con tour again. Heard it this morning from the event company I work with.
>>21788751what happened with her kimono?
>>21788807No... NO. NOOOOOOOOO!!!Seriously though, the last bomberman game I heard is a battle royal? I miss bomberman fantasy race...
>>21785357This is luxiem original, finally an original idea that they don't even have to copy from holo en.
>>21788881My uncle works as Cover's anal gimp and he says that the volume of requests are low.
>>21788751She need a new illustrator, red juice is slow and his art suck.
Is Anykara mismanaging Luxiem? At their level, they should get big stuff right?
>>21789017Does IRyS even want a redesign?
Look at those Won
>>21789067Hmm? They don't have any sponsorship yet?
>>21788881Those con at the 2nd half of the year has a chance of having a myth member appear in 3D and have a 3d concert
>>21789104is she pure sex for gooks?
>>21789095Yes. She’s made so many comments under her breath about wanting to be cute.
>>21788866Nothing that I know of. If you go to their page, it's mostly just message that you can probably send without tipping anything. Idk though. But until then, you probably can only count it from notifications on their screen.
>>21789104she got her own "Orca"
>>21789148She's already pretty cute, her personality that is.
>>21789095>They look so cute. I'm jealous.https://youtu.be/TXaxlgffGpM?t=21Judge yourself.
>>21788881Still think it’s funny that HoloEN getting involved in cons were a result of Kiara pushing KFP to get her invited (one of the people involved with organizing Dokomi is a KFP iirc).
>>21785703didn't haachama climb up from having ID tier numbers like 2.5 and whatnot to 5k floor or something? that's what I'm seeing from holostats at least, unless she's being heavily overlapped she's usually at 4.5-5k...after sub 3k shitters that's pretty big imo
Why, Yagoo, why?Why did you hire a woman for a male branch?You already have a branch full of women that live like queens while your male branch is a failure and you thought people wouldn't be pissed that you wasted a slot that a man could get by inserting a woman even in Holostars.You get what you deserve, I guess.
>>21789104Funny thing is she's already loaded. Rich get richer I suppose.
>>21789067What businesses do you expect to want to work with guys that do some filthy fujobaiting?
>>21789296>Omori
>>21789167Zeta's Orca-kun contender. Also she lost about 1.5k indogs when Kobo start streaming
>>21789319Reminds me of how Rushia never got any sponsorships...
>>21789345>a cat poster
>>21789345oof, 1k, not 1.5 . I'm retarded
>>21789345Based Azov-kun
>>21789319Yaoi con
>>21789395If you think what Rushia did was remotely close, you're mentally ill.
>>21789345well Kobo panders to indogs more
>>21789067What can they even give to them. The top two are massive fujobaiters, also not they are not gamers cus they know their views will crater, demographic is china and sea.
>>21789345i saw "SnowRed" SC and he said that he made "SnowRed2" because he exceeds the weekly limit of Superchat, damn
>>21789302reine's nepo?
>>21789429>Based Azov-kunkek, the deepest lore
HOLO ID GOLD>HOLO ID GOLDHOLO ID GOLD>HOLO ID GOLD
>>21789296can someone tell me why cover wastes money on homos?
>>21786296No. Suisex is not a sellout
>>21789500Give them a concert in China
>7k CCV and still countingshe's gonna be the queen of ID, isn't she.
>>21789067>mismanagingthey'd have to be doing some managing in the first place
>>21789589BASED>BASEDBASED>BASEDBASED>BASED
>>21789665She already is....
>>21789625Because Yagoo likes to have people prop him up as a savior when he is a manipulative faggot.
>>21789647That will attract the eyes of the local companies and will find ways to kick them out.
>>21789665I’m well aware this is debut buff period but it’s pretty scary how big they are compared to the rest of the ID market.
>>21789702>when he is a manipulative faggot.This level of seethe should be illegal
>>21789625they probably fund themselves
>>21789665Kobo vs Zeta in SC? Predictions?
>>21789702leave yagoo alone. he's a figurehead, nothing more
>>21789702but he can do the same with women
>>21789517Just look at those random sc he sent to Zeta. Goddamn
Why does YT hate Kobo?They fuck with her to stop her getting 10k
>>21789527Almost certainly. She's really good though, so it's a good hire nonetheless.
>>21789067They can get some sponsorships from Chinese brands but knowing Chinese business tactic welp it's not gonna going well.
So it's like thisKobo = ID Pekora and MarineZeta = ID Rushia and NoelKaela = ID Flare.
>>21789067What's the biggest anime con in Taiwan or China? They could get invited for those, I guess.
>>21789765Zeta got big sc but low ccv. Meanwhile Kobo got souble Zeta ccv but low sc
>>21789665How much did Zeta's Outlast stream get again?
So, I don't understand Indonesian obviously so she's probably entertaining but the more I stay in this shithole the more I start to realize is that if you want to be a successful vtuber you have to:>have a child model>sound as close as possible to a childShe has both so of course she will be successful.Is it really all it takes? Should vtuber companies look for people that sound like that and give them loli/shota models and call it a day?
>>21789625Are they actually losing money investing on homos?I know they would get more money just debuting a new girl gen in any branch, but are homo's losses bigger than revenues?
>>21789734debut buff for ID is usually last for a week only.like Reine and Anya, they were getting 3-4k on their first week but dropped to sub 1k on their 2nd week.
>SC reading for 3k peopledamn, Holo ID inclined really hard
Even when debut buff wears off, I still think Kobo will get a lot of ID golds.
>>21789824can you elaborate about flare?
INDOCHAD STATUS?
kek, Universal Music created a twitter account for Calli infohttps://twitter.com/calliope_info
>>21784457Holy fuck, Watamage have mercy
>>21789864They have to literally be a child too. Gura and Laplus are lots of things but adults they aren't.
>>21789734>Debut buff>ID panderer that isn't in Iofi>More interesting and talented than Iofi too (well, at least with skills that actually sell like singing and playing music instrument)Yeah, if she isn't in tonight's number, she might still able to hold 2k-3k after the buff wane out.
9k? wtf
vox......
>>21789763Well, even if they are not losing money that doesn't mean that they are not better investments compared to them.Maybe the money and the work required to keep them around and market them could go to a venture that would be even more popular than Holostars.Maybe they see Anycolor having huge amounts of success with male vtubers and they want to try and replicate that? Just like Anycolor pushes from time to time different idol related projects?
>>21789864well what can they do really ? the only choice for hot mommy GF voice for holo is Kaela, Kroni, or Mori not many choice really
>>21789866I mean they will eventually recover the invested money but after that they have to spent more in their 3D, their lives, etc. Personally I think its not worth it and they should have focus in the homos they already have
>>21789910flare numbers were underwhelming compared to her genmates back then.
>>21789910Lags her generation, most likely
>>21789970kusogaki energy
>>21789981Manwhore...
>>217898598k
>>217898598,050 tops
>>21789981damn that bait thumbnail can't win again kobo
>>21789824they reflect gen 6 in terms of personality
>>21789864>if you want to be a successful vtuber you have to:>have a child model>sound as close as possible to a childNo, you need a good model and a voice that fits that model
>>21789824I think you should compare it with HoloX
>>21790024the ID kusogaki power is really way too strong
>>21789981Holy shit Kobo
>doesn't get SCs for more than hour>puts 450k image on screen>people SC 450kDamn, Luxiem is really the lowest of the low now. All first 3 nijiEN had some tact, but this is pure shameless now.
cunny too strong10k now
>>21789981HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Easy 10k for Indog queen
>>21790131Holy shit kobo
>>21789948https://www.universal-music.co.jp/artists/?l=emi-recordsBtw other artists who sign by EMI Records
If HoloID3 manages to tap into the streaming audience of ID, I would say that's a win since it is fucking massive.
>>21790131HOLY SHIT, DEPLOY THE KNEELS!
>>21789983Well, look.They're bringing in a profit, and it doesn't hurt to have multiple investment avenues when you aren't hurting for cash. Plus, you can only throw so much money at Hololive at once, it makes sense to diversify the portfolio they have.
>>21790067Well yes but even more than that it seems that model/voice combination have to be for a loli one for maximum success.Just look at Gura, HoloEN's most popular and now this girl.I wouldn't say that someone like Kronii or Zeta have an issue when it comes to match voice/model but they are still getting mogged by a loli character.
KOBO 10K>KOBO 10KKOBO 10K>KOBO 10K
>>21786296Suisei got the Midnight Grand Orchestra with Taku and his label.
>>21788169Too much word. I get you are trying to make this sound bad for her but she only mellowed down after an explosive year. That and you know how she is, she ALWAYS know what she is doing
>>21790108Being shameless is a positive thing in China.
>>21790131you know what happen next itt
Kobo 10k
>>21790131this is not fucking normal, even with debut buff, mogging is too strong
>>21790108Antcolor, get them some other revenue streams.
>kneeling to cunnywhen will >we learn that if you're not successful as a cunny then you need to off yourself
>>21790213Not in most wuxia fiction
Holy shit Kobo succeed at what Nijisanji couldn't
>>21790131>>21790244Blue woman everybodyBlue woman
>>21790012>>21790016ah ok, thanks
>>21790067>No, you need a good model and a voice that fits that modelThis. Look at Kronii. Outside of her being a full retard when it comes to getting attention, her voice and body match, so she wins. But there's also one more ultimate secret to success: you need to be a blue woman
>>21790108>the first three Nijisanji EN waves had some tactAnd where did that lead them?I am actually buffled by retards like you?I am sure you are part of the same group of faggots that were shitting on the girls while comparing them to Hololive EN numbers.
10K IS TOO MUCH WTF.
>>21790236Horrogame buff, and she's a gaki which amplifies it.
>>21790244A-Anya.... ;-(
Kobo mogging niji en hahaha!
>>21788128Wait, speaking of twitch, how was ame's twitch number? I think i missed it
We're like 6 months from the ID market being bigger than EN
Uproar suffering from overlaps
Kobo's Outlast is better than Zeta's. She is legit screaming.>>21790279IRyS as Kronii is good too.
SEACHADS RUN THIS FUCKING THREAD LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>21790298>I am actually buffled by retards like you?FUCKING KEK, THIS LEVEL OF SEETHE
Even if HoloEN were streaming right now, Kobo could mog them. NijiEN can't even compare to these numbers
>omori>horror/neutral game stream but zatsudan for 30 mins before even starting the game.2 of the homos love to debuff themselves to hell.
>>21790279Ah yes, Blue the color of success
So what's the audience situation for HoloID3? Are they still majority Indonesian or are there any foreigners as well?
>>21790351
>>21790378Depend, if it's Mori or Gura or Mumei then no way
>>21790354Zeta : SCKobo : CCV
Kobo single-handly won against NijiEN that stream in JP Primetime hours.
N-NIJI ID..... ;-(>TANIGO, PLEASE SAVE THEM!Also>Iofifteen... ;-(TANIGO, PLEASE SAVE HER!
>>21790298To a certain degree, you'd expect some professionalism from them but nope.
>>21790354lmao how many times is NijiEN going to lose to HoloID3? This is just embarrassing to look at.
>>21790418ID ChloeID Gura
>>21790395Based on their chat since you can't tell with SC, still mostly ID audience.
>>21790461>>21790465
>>21790465Funny thing is that even if you only allow Kobo to keep her last 3 digits she is still mogging the combined NjiID CCV right now
>>21790031Ah I see. She was doing a "no scream" challenge. Yeah, that'll limit viewers.
>>21790461Kobo chan...
>>21790298>buffledit got worse after the voxposter shit up the thread for days
>>21790395The majority are from SEA and a bit of Korea it seems.
>>21790461What’s with that bait title and thumbnail from Mysta
>>21790527kekbeutiful
Watame 9k get, overlap no problem.
>>21790539kek
>>21790395Well zeta has the gooks on their balls while kobo and kaela speak 80-90% indo
>>21787809All I am seeing is that once again Pekora know what she is doing. All that time spent building a good floor for her to fall back to paid off. Even during content drought she still hover around 20k consistently
Did Kobo's first karaoke buff her that much? Holy shit.
Blue is truly the color of Hololive...I KNEEL!!!
>>21790395Kobo : mostly IDZeta : ID, kaigai-niki and koreansKaela : Me
>>21790464Maybe professionalism won't give you numbers and when you are in a shitty company like Anycolor that will debut 2-3 more waves until the end of the year, that won't get you decent merchandise or sponsorship deals even if you are professional (see the girls) and won't give any support or have a philosophy that makes collabs with Nijisanji JP members easier, then you have to do what you have to do to survive and grow.
>>21790395Zeta is the only one who can speak straight english.
>>21790577That's par for the course for Nijimales at this point.
>>21790527that's just too brutal
>>21790527She was doing that with the last two digits the other day.
>>21790589She'll grow by outlasting every chuuba and catching all of their funnels
>>21790577To get viewers and temporarily collab with shu and then minecraft
>>21790479>ID GuraMore like ID Pekora from what I've seen
>>21790600her debut buff her stream.also clippers i guess, especially korean channels.
>>21790608ALL BLUE GEN WHEN YAGOO ?
>>21788601> sex offender> teenager.oh FUCKmy rrat that a lot of Holo girls are MKUltra/Child Abuse victims gets stronger every day
>>21790471you holoniggers said the same thing yesterdayjust wait until the end of the streamVox gets a lot by the end most of the time
HoloJP and HoloEN continue to expand to mainstream while HoloID is gaining a bigher foothold in their homeland.Hololive is unstoppable man.
>>21790608Why else Yagoo choose blue for his company logo color
>>21790790Cope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rznfufjMyYEIn midget news the newest Sinsogumi member is getting her highest ever viewcount and 300k yen in SCs (not sure why looks like she's just playing genshit). It's pretty amazing that a chuuba most famous for getting blacked is running a agency of girls who pull well above their weight in superchats and doing well enough to adopt indies
>11k and still going onAIIIIEEEEE
>>21790695She's cunny and a singer retard nousagi
>>21790351It's okay, Fagoo, maybe it didn't happen this time either but I am sure one of your next gens will manage to do Nijimale numbers, I am sure of it.And don't forget Holostars EN that will surely mog Nijisanji EN males fr fr.
11k
11k>11k11k>11k
>>21789864Having cute voice ≠ sound like a child, you pedo fuck
>>21788548Hey, Shitpost is still shitpost don't get offended by it.
This ID incline is ridiculous. HoloID must have a good culture if no one is having a menhera attack over this.
>>21790615What was the last sponsorship for them anyways? The Priconne one?
>>21790811you are the one coping, anonby posting shitty numbers out of context
>>21790465>HoloID's cunny vs NijiID's cunny
I feel like NijiEN has put themselves in a bizarre corner image and marketing wise. Myth is relative easy to market: professional level illustrator who also enjoys Elden Ring. Musician here are her best tracks. Cheeky variety streamer with a good sense of humor who also is a great singer. If you want to check out NijiEN and look at their biggest streamers you get: Chinese women with names like Vox’s cum repository charting while he makes sex noises for an hour. Who wants their brand associated with that? Ever your average weeb would run in horror nevermind normies.
s-she must be using bots, right anon...?
>>21790894>Purple hairThat's an instant loss right there.
Iroha is the most boring out of holox, how the hell she get in? I won't shit on her much yet, since she new. She needs to improve fast, koyori and lui actually give the box something compare to her.
>>21784607She’s probably set for the year solely from the Konosuba sponsorship money on the roommate side. Aside from that her merch on that side sold out fast as shit and she’s getting membership cash.
>>21785881I mean, the biggest aspect of TING is the narration based comedy... and it doesn't really translate all that well in subtitle form.I can understand why JP viewers would tune out.
KOBO YOU ARE TOO FUCKING STRONG WTF
>>21790615This. Get their money as soon as possible since you never know when the market will go away.
>>21789983Look, holostar has always been yagoo's passion project. It never meant to be a big success. As long as they are self-sustained then they have nothing to lose.
>>21790889If anyone in HoloID cared about numbers they had years to do something about it. But the same thing happened in HoloJP. Choco, Sora, and Roboco put in a ton of work to build the brand and now are low tier but they seem to not give a shit at all
>open thread>blue id cunny 11kNani
>>21791030I think they’re lucky that noctyx was a flop compared to them.
>>21790904I mean, Anykara tends to hire whoever they like. Cover actually plans on which skillset they need for the next group of streamers.
>>21790577clickbait nigger, just look at yesterday's
>>21790952Minecraft autistI read /here/ that she's the one helping Miko preparing for Minecraft Sport Festival
>>21791071It was lucky that a few of them aren't even interested in the shit. You can't rely on luck, get the money when you can.
https://youtu.be/Ku4KPFoxJK8Nijisis.. even their staff got fan animation and big numbers...
>>21789981not oncebut twicefucking kek :pepePoint:
>>21790461>nina playing my favorite gameI will not watch nijiEN....
>>21791094Wait, there is going to be another sporrs fes? I mean, no one is playing MC right now it I though they lost interest.
>>21791094We'll see. I do hope she picks up her game when the next arc comes around. Right now she's 5th place in her gen.
>>21787063Wasn’t Justin Bieber arrested for drug use.
>>21791192There’s always a sports fes and summer fes, it’s basically tradition at this point.
>>21791192MC right now has the oozora police vs peko and haachama
Man Kobo almost hit 12k. Probably could get there during some chase sequence.
>>21789781anon, he made "SnowRed3", ID Chloe indeed
>>21791094So we just need to wait until october/november to see her full potential? Fuck that shit then
>>21791161I would watch it if it wasn't Nina. I'd rather watch Vox do gay ASMR than watch Nina play one of the best games around(patched).
Zeta IS now at 512,996 in SC
>>21790952> Kobo mogs Cox> attempt to start timeloopevery fucking time
>>21790261I know why blue is the sacred color of a vtuber, i know why it bring success... it's the color of the founder, the primodial color of all things virtual, the color of the Virtual Goddess herself!>picrel
>>21790952Give her time, she still trying to find her niche. Her best content is singing. It took lamy and anya for a while to get good at streaming.
>>21791139I thought it was funny when Ina made a top tier design for a manager and it got tons of fanart and she explicitly toned it down. Cover probably doesn’t like things out of their direct control but that there’s actually multiple r18 fanworks about a talent’s managers’s avatar she drew on a whim shows the Omega concept isn’t a bad one. It was just poorly executed
>>21782017>>21782052its all so tiresome
>>21790950Ironically tonight is her best stream ccv-wise in recent times.
>>21791035>i-it was never meant to be successful>w-we want them to be failures, d-dont misunderstandpathetic
>>21791192school fes got put on hold with Marine and Kanata absence
12kwtf
>>21791343It's Omega's tweets that make people hate him. Just compare his tweets to Nodoka's.
>12k >ID holoAAAAIIIIIEEEE
Kobo 12k
>>21791395dunno what to tell ya m8
>12kah ah ah ah
>>21791326how many of those are korean?
Here is a random datapoint with regards to TikTok hashtags>1700 million: https://www.tiktok.com/tag/hololive>560 million: https://www.tiktok.com/tag/にじさんじ>451 million: https://www.tiktok.com/tag/ホロライブ>146 million: https://www.tiktok.com/tag/nijisanji
Noel gorilla zatsudan is beating Flare Elden Ring. What happened to Flare?
>>21790461What happened to nina? since when did she incline to a 2k ccver?
>>21791421Omega being a vtweeter killed it. Nodoka from the start actually showed up on stream.
>>21788333Oh, that fuck that tried to imply that Mumei slept her way into Hololive years before there was a Hololive? Man, what did retired orca do to piss them off that badly?
Why do they always stream on indog prime time?
>>21791453Half of it.
>>21782647Mori has turned her back on Rushia...
>>21791491anon, there's 4 elden ring streams going on and all her competition started earlier than flare did.
>>21791326lmao isn't that a lot more than her monetization stream?
>>21791507KEKNew face of Vtubing they said...AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>21791303I remember her making some sort of would-be maze in a private server just after her debut and said she will invite the other HoloX members to enter it. Fast forward to current day and I don't think she even remember anything about it anymore.
>>21791370>>21791507I think a large part of why Nijisanji ID didn't succeed was because NijiEN kept on overlapping with them.
>>21791507it's just unfortunate that holoID and NijiEN audiences share the same timeslot, even if the audiences are different
Meanwhile, Kobo barely gets SC.
>>21790904While acting like shameless manwhores has a limited shelf-life and doesn't do any favors to the Nipple brand, they'll probably be forgotten in a year after anykara pumps out 30 more vtubers for the branch, so it's best for them to milk what they can when they can.
>>21791490Here is one great hithttps://www.tiktok.com/@minecraft_anime_x_x/video/70670850524374008341.9M likes, makes Twitter engagement look like midgets
>>21788470>FlopRyS>Chicken voiceHololive aren't exactly sending their A team either
>>21791507people will shit on Rushia but Flare has been acting very weird since thenfirst of all she was the only one that was very cold and indifferent towards Rushia's situation during the gen3 announcementand then she started overlapping aggressively with her genmates, to the extend that it seems deliberate (probably all the schizo rrats in this place affecting me but still)it just seems very weird
>>21791624wtf, is ID3 just Lap and Chloe again
>>21791507Indo prime time is CN prime time.
>>21791624Isn't Indos donate through Socialbuzz? There's no way to track them though
>>21791595Well, Minecraft arc at the end when HoloX debuted. I believe she is a builder addict. She is addicted to Ark too right?
>>21791658 meant for >>21791491
>Zeta calling out her biggest paypig name this bitch gonna go GFE hard
>>21791709>niji grifter bad>holo grifter good
When was the first time HoloID manage to break 10k barrier with regular stream solo content?
>>21790658why people who dont watch nijien have so much to say about them and spread misinformation?
>>21791652the most debuffed holoEN still getting invitation compared to the best of female nijien kek
>>21791753Moona does that all the time.
>>21791685Correct. For comparison, Zeta had 252 donations from Sociabuzz and Kobo had 641 donations from Sociabuzz. It means that Kobo has way more ID donators than Zeta. There is no way to find the numbers though.
>>21791507It's not Indog prime time, retard. It's east Asian primetime.Most of their audience is from China, Taiwan, Japan and Southeast Asia so of course they'll stream during these timeslots.Nina, also, streams during these NA mornings, EU evenings timeslot most of the time.
>>21791809then how do you know Kobo got 641 donations?
>>21791094I wonder why she never collabed with EN and ID MC autists...
>>21791745Most of the people here are straight males. They are more disgusted to see male whoring himself more than female
>>21791753never i guess?they break it if the stream is karaoke, totsu or big event/collab.
>>21791753Only moona karaoke
>>21791745don't even bother, holofags will never admit stuff like that, just shitpost responsibly and ignore them
>>21791860NTA but I think most people are just used to women being shameless about money.
>>21791855Here. Unlike streamlabs they don't show the nominal.
>>21791745I mean, look at the kinds of messages that are getting sent. That's really the big thing, not that some blokes aren't absolute coomheads, but by and large they don't send nearly as depraved or as many of the kinds of messages that Vox gets.
>>21791595And where the fuck is her orisong?
>>21791855The number of donations can be seen, but not the total amount.
Damn those are some serious screams kobo has.
>>21791855https://sociabuzz.com/vestiazeta/tribehttps://sociabuzz.com/kobokanaeru/tribe
Zeta is done, let's see if Kobo will get funnel.
>page 11Number LOVE
>>21791658
>>21791621How many wars have there been over that island that's bizarrely split between Malaysia and Indonesia? Also I can't really see where Singapore is actually located on that map. Is it really that tiny fucking island?
I BE THE LAST NUMBERFAG
>>21791745anon, he literally called Zeta a bitch...
>>21792160No you wont
>>21792110Only one war.
>>21791621Jakarta is GMT+7China/Singapore/HK/Taiwan is GMT+8JP is GMT+9
>>21792110>How many wars have there been over that island that's bizarrely split between Malaysia and Indonesia?Non. Since both are busy fending of poachers from cutting them trees
>>21792160No, Im the last one
>>21792220Bitch is a term of affection.
>>21792160nah, me