/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>21780063
Whose money pays for your Big Macs? Your mom?

>>21780063
what do you even need big labels for anymore in the age of streaming music?

>>21780293
she's making millions right now. No need to get more money

>>21780063
>Imagine having an oshi without a pro music label

>>21780391
Marketing, better studios, better producers,... but that comes with a lot of strings and they can suck the soul out of your music

>HoloEN signed with major label.
>NijiEN offpako in hotel.

Guessing she got a terrible contract

>>21780391
Non shitpost answer; a label like that has the resources and connections to internationally promote an artist in ways Cover can't possibly match

>>21780063
If she leaves Hololive for Universal, then you can push the "sell out" button.

>>21780513
Good thing her music has no soul

>>21780063
Selloutopee Mori

vt talking L after L

I’m just worried her music is gonna get even less soulful. It’s already crossing that line with the last album

Indie bros, hololive is the way
You can't get this on ninjien

>>21780513
I mean her music is already one dimensional. I doubt they'll stifle any of her ideas.

>>21780063
>All those fan videos about to get struck down.
This will be fun to watch

She should try going big with her roomate, this weeb shit is holding her down. I mean she can do it right bros? Her music being popular is totally because it's good right?

>>21780391
Cope.

>>21781051
kek didn't even think of that

>>21781198
how would this work with her roommate? are they separate entity that she's not included in the contract?

>>21780893
it definitely will be, keep in mind that once you're signed to a label you literally can't release anything by your own anymore, so if they don't like it it will never see the light of day, and you can't do shit against it unless they agree to part ways

>>21780063
Yes now please become a universal studios vtuber instead of a Hololive vtuber.
Pls Mori i'm begging you.

poor Irys, is she a failed project?
She and Calli should have swapped roles.

>>21780893
You only have yourselves to blame. Endless complaining that she's not idol enough when idolfaggotry is the most generic, soulless shit in existence. She's giving you what you asked for

>>21781198
>>21781461
Bargaining stage of acceptance i see lol

>>21780391
You didn't even need them before streaming music. They basically just exist to give you a payout upfront, you waste all that money in your youth and then never make any more good music anyway.

>>21780982
>I mean her music is already one dimensional
No, her music is largely one note, not one dimensional. Her music has lyrical meaning, it has decent to good beats, and her singing skill is better than most pop stars (not strictly good but but still better than most).
It's one note because her entire musical catalog is either shitposting about her persona or lamenting the death of her old career.

ITT: Coping

>>21781835
Idiot. Do you people got big and famous in the 70s because they made good music? Getting a record label means you get access to resources and CONNECTIONS you would never have gotten as an independent

>>21782087
Yes, I understand how Jewry works, friend. But it wasn't "needed". It isn't what produced the best works in music, it just gets you some money and obligations and then you regret all of it later on in life.

>>21781505
Yeah it's pretty sad anon, seeing Risu and Irys being mogged by whatever music this bitch produce is just...Every songs of her sound like those "Naruto rapping" on YouTube and it's the cringiest form of media out there

>>21783089
You do know that both Risu and IRyS love Callie's music, right?

>>21783239
Proof?

>>21783239
Anon, they're in the same fucking company

>>21780063
Think of the shekels.

>>21781630
This sounds like massive cope. Sorry Deadbeat enjoy your shit music

>>21780729
Anon she’s signed under Mori. She’s locked into Hololive for a minimum 2 years depending on the contract. She is now absolute least likely EN to graduate

>>21783532
Universal has the money to buy that contract. Along with Suisei.

>>21781505
I know it's a dead horse at this point but how fucking funny is it that the vsinger the best streamer they have (puts time in, is great at commentary and interaction) and barely anybody pays attention to their music

good news then, hope universal take mori away

>>21780063
I'm happy for her, but goddamn I'm mad at cover.

>>21783390
>>21783425
Even the best actors in the world are good to bring up how much they love something and gush over it without prompting or a script and not mean it.

>>21781670
Accepting what? That mori will ruin vtubing for good?

>>21784025
How will this ruin vtubing for good

They like the idea of selling rap music in japan. That's the kind of cultural development they want to see.

>>21783637
oh because anyone cares about Calli without the avatar lmao

>>21786068
> $50,000 in liposuction and plastic surgery for the roommate to not look like a dumpling
> "Time to drop that mocap shit and do it live"
> Yes, ((master))
> Dumps Hololive. "Later suckers!"
> Dumps Trash Taste. "Later suckers!"
> Talk shows are on Howard Stern now.
> "Yeah, those simps are all suckers, I never needed them but thanks for your money rofl cry some more"
> Promotes multiculturalism
> Speaks out against Japanese culture
> Secretly indulges in child sex whores like every goddamn entertainer
> Alcohol problem evolves into a heroin problem
> Good end in a hotel room with a elastic strap and a racquetball

You heard it here first.

>>21786499
t. Putin

>>21780063
Can someone explain to me how big this is? Beside getting a fuckload of money, what else? Will her music be better? More quality production?

>>21787027
It means if Mori strangles a hooker Universal will have someone get rid of the body.

>>21787027
access to top of the line everything and huge amounts of money for marketing. It's in the best interest of the label for her to succeed since they will make $100 for every dollar mori sees. It's the main reason you sign to a label.

>>21780396
Millions of rupees don't count.

>>21781927
Technically that would be *2* notes.

would be a shame if these were dug up

>>21780063
All this means is that she will no longer have interesting producers. She'll be putting out run of the mill pop-rap.

>>21780063
Seethe harder anon your Oshi will never be this successful

>>21780063
I can't wait for the
>muh label wont let me do what I want
crying arc.

>>21791889
Archive link please. Those are literally worthless without one. Here's an example lmao

>>21783724

Not all the time. Michael Caine made fun of Jaws 2 saying he hadn't seen the movie and it was by all accounts horrible. He had however seen the house that the money from the movie paid for and it was spectacular.

Heh.

>some genius at universal signed a rapper whos activly despised by blacks

>>21792067
its real, but it also doesn't fucking matter and no one gives a shit same as the last 70 times antis tried to run this playbook on her

>>21791889
I feel so old when I see people thinking the fabled n-word was nigga.

>>21792154
Her music was never meant for traditional rapper audiences. She's a J-Rapper and the Japense tend to not give a damn what black people think, when they aren't disliking them in general.

>>21792154
>retarded and racist enough to think black people are the target audience for mass market rap

>>21792195
Anon... you need proof to backup your claims. Its really easy to fake twitter posts in screenshots.
Like the Ironmouse being a mom was backed up by archive links.

>>21786499
Anon, you assume too much if you think Howard Stern would know who Mori is.

>>21792349
i don't care whether or not you think its real or proving it to you. im a deadbeat and a massive fan, it is real lol, no one gives a shit about what she did literally 8 years ago as a teen

>>21787027
I think it'll mean a shit ton of touring and live shows
not sure if it's still like it used to be but live shows was how money was made by artists, universal isnt going to be getting a cut from her supers and very few people buy albums anymore so they are going to have to put her in front of audiences to make back anything they invest into her

her roommate was already mentioning North American shows incoming

>>21792154
Universal Music Japan (the ones who signed on Mori) gives 0 shits about blacks. They got Mori because they want her for the same people Ado attracts.

>>21792154
Yeah man, imagine if she did succeed, it'd be unprecedented. A white person dominating hip hop so much they become the single best selling artist in the history of the genre despite being shat on by blacks at every turn? Fucking fairy tale shit man.

>>21792597
>>Universal Music Japan (the ones who signed on Mori)
she didn't get signed by UMJ, she was signed by EMI which is much, much, MUCH bigger

>>21780063
Are you realize surprised? She was only ever interested in the money. I fucking hate this whore so much.

>>21780063
ah thank god, i can see her moving on from hololive and vtubing on the horizon now
good times where EN girls can collab without this retarded autist ruining it are ahead

>>21791889
>no hard r
antis win, I am disappointed in her

One of the two performers on the left has a contract with Universal and the other doesn't.

>>21780391
You don't need a label, but there's certain monetary advantages to having a label.
With a label, the label in question will take over the marketing and PR department, they will foot the bill for recording and help make studio appointments (via an allocated budget that the recording artist can usually pocket the difference on, with an added monetary incentives after release that are sometimes dependent in size on the products success) and such as well as music video recordings. It will also help on the logistical side of distribution, will help with administrative tasks, will help you book venues and plan events, etc. etc.
Of course, there are huge drawbacks to all of this as well.
If you were to attain the same level of fame as an independent artist, you would of course receive a far larger part of the eventual monetary success your music makes, as well as whatever merch sales you have.
You give up most of your freedom as well. If a label just doesn't want to release your music in spite of there being a finished project, be it to not coincide with another release or because they want to simply sit on you and not allocate a budget to market you or whatever, they can simply refuse to release your music. And since it is technically their possession, they are free to do so. The master recordings are as well. Even if you should break away from them, reclaiming anything will be an extreme legal struggle afterwards.
Then you have to remember that these labels do not give a fucking shit about you, they care about money. They will gouge you, they will bleed you dry, they will make sure that you have as small of a slice of the pie as possible while having you still in a place where you want to create music.
I just hope, for her sake, that Mori was smart enough to have a lawyer read over the contract and to have it be one with a clearly defined end that is also clearly only pertaining to music made as this persona and clearly delineated and acknowledged by both parties as part of a project pertaining to the contract.

>>21792740
yes, the one with 2m subs who keeps pumping out new songs like a machine

>>21792665
She was signed by EMI Japan
https://www.universal-music.co.jp/mori-calliope/

>>21792681

Comments like this make me laugh. Welcome to 99% of the planet. It's not like the guy mopping out the bathrooms at Chuck-E-Cheese is doing it for the love of mopping, he's doing it for the money.

>>21792740

Makes sense as Universal isn't giving out contracts for who can kick highest.

>>21792828
being hololive she already has a lot of the restrictions that come from a label, if anything she will probably be able to play the 2 entities off of each other

>>21786499
GOD PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN
GET THIS SELLOUT PIECE OF SHIT OUT OF HOLOLIVE PLEASE

>>21780063
>access to real drugs so she doesn’t need to just use lean
>rivers of alcohol
>all the shotas she wants
Mori is winning, she is a real artist now.

>>21792933
I doubt that the guy mopping the floors would call mopping the floors his passion or even his hobby.
An equivalence to the mopping floors thing would be her streaming, not her music.
That is generally why sellouts are despised by some people. The idea is that they're selling out their passion, something that they love, for cold hard cash.
Mind, I don't give a fuck, but that's the argument.

>>21781630
Kill yourself cuckbeat

>>21793082
why do they hate so hard?

>>21791889
>all those super positive posts
Am I supposed to be mad? 2014 was a different time. Before election tourists entered the world wide web.

>>21783651
I'd care about Irys's music more if it wasn't soulless animeintrocore garbage.
Not to mention Japanese. That's the one place where Hololive went wrong, making their ENGLISH talents sing in JAPANESE. Makes Reflect look like dogshit compared to Tsunami, even though Gura is objectively the better singer

>>21793098

Passion doesn't pay the bills. Just ask how much their passion for hating Mori pays them.

I don't care if my entertainers are are passionate or not about their work, I care if I enjoy it.

>>21780063
I honestly didn't expect her to actually literally sell out. She came from a culture that looked at these things as below them, art for art's sake was the name of the game, supported by fans instead of labels. While this mindset is pretty juvenile, it is also admirable, and music produced like that feels more genuine for obvious reasons. There's a difference between someone doing their damnest to reach out to others with their music, and someone who spends their time jumping between recording booths and hookers while the "reaching out" part is being done by faceless middle-aged men in suits.
Plainly speaking, if I were a deadbeat, I would be getting a whiff of figurative NTR coming from this situation.

>>21793171
they have a huge hateboner for Mori. They can't fuck her so they lash out in anger.
She doesn't listen to their petty ass demands so they scream and shout.

>>21792828
Given that Cover would have been involved and they have their own lawyers who have negotiated major sponsorships before and have memories of the failure of INNK music and the fact that as far as anyone knows so far she still has complete ownership over the roommate she’ll probably be fine. Most cases of people getting screwed is because they’re young, inexperienced and don’t have lawyers.

>>21780063
You can't sell out if you had nothing to sell in the first place

>>21793061
Oh believe me, big record labels are far shittier (and shadier) than Cover could ever hope to be. If massive mainstream successes can still cry about incredibly shittily they're being treated by their labels, then what chance does she have? With Cover she at least had some clout (here she's basically a nobody), and they're not all powerful like something like Universal or Sony, so she could at least fight back if they were being shitty to her. Now? No fucking chance in hell.

>>21787027
The soul will be sucked out of everything she puts out but she will get lots of money. I'm sure she's super happy.

>>21793183

OMG you did something bad 8 years ago and stopped doing it. How dare you!

>>21793203
If Moona can release English songs then there's no reason the others cannot

>>21793238
Anon... I hate to tell you this but she literally sold out when she joined Hololive. This is nothing new lmao

>>21793098
Sellout is almost always a cope by people who can’t sell their shit.

>>21793233
>I don't care if my entertainers are are passionate or not about their work, I care if I enjoy it.
Yeah because you're not passionate about it yourself, that's the point. The people crying about musicians being sell outs are often times entrenched in the cultures themselves. If all you see it as is entertainment, then no shit you don't care.

>>21792933
>>21793000
>>21793233
>>21793328
could it be a phoneposter

SO MANY FUCKING KEKBEATS TODAY WHAT THE FUCK ????? GO BACK TO TWITTER OR REDDIT FAGGOTS !!!!!!

>>21791889
>PLEASE JUST let me alone to GM...
As in “game master”? Is this little dork actually talking about running tabletop RPGs?

>>21793307
Record labels can drive people like Taylor Swift up the goddamn wall and come out on top. If Mori gets in a conflict with them, they'll make mincemeat out of her.

>>21791889
Universal has people who’ve been arrested for drugs. Louis C.K won a Grammy after being exposed for publicity masturbating in front of women who knew if they said anything he’d blacklist them. This shits in a different league.

>>21793352

It's the mating call of bucket crabs.

>>21793345
Hololive is different, it's an indie project compared to actual serious labels.

>>21793307
but thats where I think being a part of both will be beneficial
if she feels Universal is fucking her over then she can complain to Cover to fight for her.
Cover might not have much pull, but it's a hell of a lot more then the average independent artist and its also a fall back so she doesnt have to feel as trapped by the label

>>21793420
how fucking new are you people

>>21793420
Wait I read that and thought she meant an actual party. This fucking dork.

>>21793582
>complain to Cover to fight for her.
It's not like Cover could ever win any fight against an actual record label either

>>21793582
>she can complain to Cover to fight for her
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>21793171
>>21793272
>coping this hard
I hate her because she is an ugly piece of shit garbage excuse for a human. She is fake as fuck, ugly, and completely undeserving of anything good happening to her. But you keep on simping for her, she will totally have sex with you someday. Oh wait, you're not Connor.

>racist
>transphobic
>pedophile
well I get why the jews want to sign her for 1 of those, but why the others?

>>21792828
>I just hope, for her sake, that Mori was smart
dyrbi? besides distribution what can EMI do that cover cant ? I mean it's not like live shows are going to come back in full swing, and the vast majority of her fans listen to music digitally. Also it's not like her being on a label will convert the normies who dont like vtubers

>>21793741
>I mean it's not like live shows are going to come back in full swing
they've been back for months in most of the world, asia is the only real holdout

>>21780391
More money, anon. Jewniversal actually could care less about whether Mori's music is actually good or not, the point is she's raking in B i G numbers topping charts with each album release every time and Jewniversal wants a piece of that dough.

>>21793589
It hits different when people do something as part of their job compared to when they do it in their personal life as well.

>>21793657
Ah yes spew out your hateful load anon. I can see your microdick and wow its much smaller than I thought it would be.

>>21792740

> Knows 3 languages
> Training all her life for the stage
> Loves her fans

"Nope"

> Alcoholic pedophile
> Barely knows English let alone Japanese
> Loves where her job can get her, not her fans

"Sign this one up!"

>>21793847
she only did it as part of her job because its something she loves, once again, how new

Ever notice that all her antis on twitter are nigs? Probably the same here too. As if their opinions ever mattered.

>>21793352
>coping cuckbeat is a hypocrite just like his whore oshi
many such cases

i cannot wait for the mori hates her label arc and the music that will come after the deal. see you in 2-3 years

someone remind me how mori is like, controversial
it can't be like a /cgl/ thing or lolcow
that was kiaras

>>21793853
Where do you come from people?

>>21793340
Indeed, but isn't it kinda fucked she isn't releasing ID songs lol. The same problem

Good move on universal, deadfags gonna buy any shit mori release, free cash and mori only needs the minimum effort. Good for her.

>>21793853
Keep projecting cuckbeat, you will NEVER EVER get laid.

>>21793859
im not a hater but I dont understand KFPs
her voice and personality are really hard to deal with
She is definitely the best at being an Idol in EN and her holofest appearance was great but everything outside of that is really hard for me to watch

>>21793886
>she only did it as part of her job because its something she loves
That falls into dyrbi territory though.

>>21793904
That's pretty racist of you cuckbeat

>>21793958
mori kills the vtuber fantasy by being too close to a real person

I wonder how the cuckbeats will cope when Whori completely abandons them in the near future

>>21794057
At least I can fuck a woman. With your microdick you literally can't. Show off your femboi bussy fag.

>>21794243
>>21794243
Really? She always came across as extremely fake. She's so tryhard in everything she does, from her put upon persona (or I guess not put upon) to her music, that I thought that it was basically all kayfabe.

>>21780960
Not niji en, but...

>>21794318
>At least I can fuck a woman

So, if she's so salty that Cover wont let her do whatever she wants, what makes her think her new overlords will be better?

>>21794068
Kiara is a much better at idol performances than she is as a streamer. Not that surprising considering her history but it is interesting to see traits and behaviors that detract from her streams being ideal for being on stage. Her constant attempts to actively engage and fill space with no time for anything to rest, and pushing super hard with high energy even when something isn’t landing to try to force it work wonderfully with on stage entertainment, keeping the audience excited.

>>21794072
does it? she talked in depth about how much she loved world of darkness for months before finally doing mythbreakers

>>21794388
Money

>>21794328
she started out superfake and it came off as a parody
but that changed alot over the first year, watch her debut reaction

>>21794328
she's literally the exact same no matter where you look. the irony of people here calling her inauthentic is very funny because the main issue they have with her is actually the fact that she cannot even pretend for a second to be anyone but herself, regularly to her own detriment

>>21781198
That's what she's trying to do, but it's a slow process. I feel like she's not playing a character anymore, she always mention her irl persona on stream

>>21794467
The megacorp will sure see a lot of it, but her slice isn't going to be that much bigger than when she was just with cover.

>>21794328
I cannot look at you people without imagining just a buncha gossiping dramawhores

>>21794601
Oh well. Maybe she'll overdose and kill herself.

>>21794367
>Never denies having a micropenis
LMAO

>>21794601
>but her slice isn't going to be that much bigger
The percentage will most likely be smaller. She's probably betting on the total amount being larger though, so even a smaller percentage would round out to more on her end.
And more eyes on mori means more publicity for her roommate

>>21794345
It has been a year and I still can't believe that 3 retards got an NBC deal

Clearly she should play Dungeons: the Dragoning 40k. It would combine her love of World of Darkness with her love of Mass Effect.

>>21794388
what salt?
she approached hololive like she was selling out and had a lot of guilt about that, but I really feel like she came to the realization that she didnt have to sell out nearly as much as she first thought and has become much happier since the debut

>>21794670
I've had sex, cuckbeat. You projecting has no effect on me besides making me laugh. Keep posting your impotent rage though.

>>21794761
Anon getting dicked in your ass by your boyfriend doesn't count

>>21794694
>more publicity for her roommate
This is a bad thing

>>21794629
Who said you were allowed to look at us, niggerslave?

>>21794806
Keep coping cuckbeat. Mori doesn't give a shit about you.

>>21794860
I see you're running out of material now. You're already starting to timeloop.
Or is your boyfriend calling for you for another ass fucking and you don't have enough time to respond?

>>21780063
Wait she actually got contracted? Before Azki or Suisei? This is quite huge

>>21780513
Hard to suck the soul out of music that didn't have soul in the first place

>21794963
>projecting this hard

>>21795200
Anon, anon please take a shower. We can still smell the cum on you

>>21794746
>Clearly she should play Dungeons: the Dragoning 40k. It would combine her love of World of Darkness with her love of Mass Effect.
That isn’t a real game.

>She still cannot get permission to stream Persona
Atlus please...

>>21792154
It's okay nignogs don't have money to buy things so what they think don't matter.

>>21785909
This. Mori is their gateway to building a JP rap market.

>>21794843
it's just interesting

timeloops are boring

>>21780063
>MUH JEWS

>>21796547
>soijak spammer is a cuckbeat
Not even surprised

>>21787027
more DMCA

>>21792665
UMG owns EMI so is much larger.
So being signed by EMI means she’s a part of UMG.

>>21793000
Lost my shit, thanks

>>21780391
copyright protection
more resources and connections to industry insiders
more opportunities after she's done with hololive
more reach within japan and outside of japan with huge marketing arm.

Deadcucks seething now

Keep seething janny

Did Suisei also get a deal with UMJ?

>>21792855
Quantity is better than Quality, yes.

On second thought, Mori and her Jew producers are made for each other.

>>21780396
>Millions
Holy cope

>>21787027
> Will her music be better?
That’s just wishful thinking Anon.

>>21780513
She's not an artist anyway she's just someone with braindead simps
Producers will make products to coonsoome and shell tag along

>>21787027
Her music will get better just by the simple fact that she'll have ghost writers and producers making the songs for her and giving her little actual input.

This deal feels like it was made to target an overseas audience. White girl rapper from the suburbs is not taken seriously at all in the states and her lyrics are genuinely cringe to listen to without the vtuber context. Most likely her songs will become more pop focused and target Asian countries as it's main audience, cause she honestly can't compete with actual singers in a native English speaking country.

Don't really care about Mori but I do like Suisex so... yeah pink-haired girl helps blue-haired girl take over the world

>>21799435
No Suisei doesn’t want to sell her soul, shocking right. Mori wants real fame and fuck you money.

>>21801999
nice headcanon where did you get that interview with Suisei and Mori?

>>21800943
>she'll have ghost writers and producers making the songs for her and giving her little actual input
That would make her go absolutely fucking insane

>>21780063
What's wrong with being Jewish? My brother in law is Jewish and he's really cool. Don't be bigoted, man.

>>21802101
Maybe not ghost writers but producers and writers in general are gonna bog her shit down hard

>>21799435
Only Mori
Suisei did get a deal with Toys Factory as a unit called Midnight Grand Orchestra with Inotaku, but she's still an indie for her solo career

>>21795011
INNK was acting as a label for AZKi's releases. Suisei's EP and Suisei's album was released independently by Cover. Sora's signed with Victor Entertainment
>>21780960
Kotone's an indie and is under UMG too...

>>21802766
Aqua's EP...

>>21781927
who shit in your head?

She is not a good singer lol.

and for fucks sake someone tell her to stop rapping she has 0 flow and 0 technic,

lyrical meaning?

"my life so hard buhuu" yeah its not like I head thant a 100 million times from different artists before.

comparing this poor mental ill kid with Katy perry

>my sides

>>21802933
>not worshiping mori
Sorry anon, that's a banning.

>>21781927
holy cope

>>21791889
jesus you fuckers are those twitter faggots who cancel people based on shit they said years ago

>>21780063
> meanwhile cumbuds have an oshi who's an actual jew

>>21780513
Mori doesn't have a soul. She's now a double sellout.

It’s called being successful

>>21793345
Hololive is fucking garage band when compared to record labels

>>21780063
Please tone down the antisemitism both she and Gura belong to the tribe.

>>21780063

>>21780391
if its japan then, you will hear this bitch ruining your seasonal anime OP

>>21819761
Can't wait to see all the people who don't even watch vtubers become Mori antis

>>21819761
Good thing I only read Manga. Dumb bitch can't touch that.